/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18427236
Why should I buy batbois from larry instead of every other seller, many who are cheaper by 10 or more dollars?

Afternoon, gentlemen

>>18427316
>>18427306

>>18427326
Who is dat sexy boi ?

>>18427236
Nth for Mercs

>>18427367
Lawrence from the electrified marketplace

2 eags per kook ya cunts

>>18427418
>*catches your fist*
>*purloins your kookaburra*

favorite 1/4 oz gold coins? lookin to stack some

>>18427549
I ordered myself some of those queen's beasts some weeks ago

>>18427549
0.24 oz but close enough

>>18427582
I got the yale, been keeping and eye out for the griffin, that's my fave desu.

>>18427584
Hot

>>18427592
I got the yale, the black bull (lmao), the falcon and the unicord. The griffin and the lion are the master race desu

>>18427236
I preordered 3 batbois today. Am in the UK. Will these go up in value?

Finally OP made athread considering us eurofags too. I feel nice. Can't wait for my batbois to arrive by eom

>>18427638
The will go up in meme value. Where did you pick these up fren?

>>18427667
if you know more suppliers, feel free to share pls

i got jewed into buying boomer rocks because of you. how much can I realistically sell silver eagles for

>>18427621
Yeah I'm trying to find the OG lion and griffin but the premiums be nasty right now. eBay charging tax makes it rough too.

>>18427742
Why would you sell now?

>>18427713
European Mint. Not sure if smooth or frosty.

Should I get 2oz gold or get silver eagles instead

>>18427742
depends how badly someone wants to try and shoot holes in them as you fling em in the air

>>18427768
Are you the cunt who asked me about the batbois in the other thread?

>>18427621
I'm way to new to PMs and i'm still learning the ropes. I will try to contribute i nfuture threads as long as my disposable income allows to be able to confirm whatever I post

>>18427800 I’d go for the eagles, silver becoming $50 seems more feasible than gold at $3,000. Not only is doubling up with silver more likely imo I think silver could see $100/$300 an ounce some day in the not so distant future.

Saw a 100g silver bar with the current bid being 120GBP on ebay earlier lmao

If I ever sell my silver it's going to be to people on ebay that don't know where else to buy for less

>>18427742
Don't sell them just pretend you have buried treasure if you're gonna be a nigger about it.

>>18427800
Gold is a safer long term bet. Even at the current paper price of $1700 gold has returned a 8.3 % compounded rate annually for 48 2/3 years since Nixon abandoned the gold standard. Silver has a higher upside potential (pic related). So it depends on what is motivating you getting into PMs. You could always hedge and get a mix of both.

>>18427925
He's trolling. Nobody would "be jewed into buying pms" then when the perfect scenario for holding pms happens decide to dump the bags before the party starts.

>>18427951
He could've gambled on people dumping their silver they panic bought now and buying it later on (if the price drops)

>>18427376

Full bands mint states carry an undue premium for bullion buyers. Stick to VF and lower grades for bullion purchases and avoid prices more than 20% over melt.

>>18427946
>that photo.

We will be seeing silver at 10k and gold at 60k per oz in 7 months

>>18428099
I have a couple rolls I accumulated at or below face value

>>18427584

Prefer liberty have eagles, they usually have lower premiums. Also US modern quarter eagle commemorates usually have low premiums because they dont have a lot of numismatic value.

>is it worth it to stack valcambi 100gr combibar silver ? i see the high premium but i want to feel like a real investor not like a fucking coin boomer.

>>18428135
Liberty heads are nice and the lower premium is obviously good for stacking but there's something special about indian head designs.

>>18428193
I have one. If shit goes sideways and silver moons it will be a good way to make small purchases. Plus they are pretty cooool

>>18427549
>>18427582
>>18427592
1/4 QBs are nice

>>18428193
There's no difference except you won't pay tax on coins

>>18427800
Get 1/2 or 1 oz gold and the rest silver

>>18428277
With all those premiums on those quarter ounce coins you could have bought more gold

>>18428193
Just get ten ounce bars, way lower premium and you'll feel like a real big Boi investor

>>18427236
https://www.rba.gov.au/qa/gold-holding.html
>Almost the entirety of the RBA's physical gold holdings (99.9 per cent) is stored in the United Kingdom at the Bank of England (BoE).
How fucked is Australia?

>>18428364

yeah but im not american. here people trade precious metal in tael or grams... oz are for loan collateral in big bars one doesnt get to out from the banks patrimonial vault. ...

>>18428366
Fucked since they are a Chinese province, unless England likes giving gold to the Chinese then they wont be fucked.

Spot market opens in 5 minutes.

>>18428391

pic related is most pieces i stack look like. they have a curved shape to be tied to a stick as traditionally done. mom have a lot of those but wont guie because am boy.

>>18428431

>>18427236
damn larry is getting around these days

>>18428443
>they have a curved shape to be tied to a stick as traditionally done

pic?

also have bunch of ornemental fine jewelry.

Certified jadeite.

I know its not gold and silver, but I'm sure you guys have seen my stack enough

>>18427316
Copy and pasting from last thread because it reached bump limit and I was second last to comment.

He's probably wondering who in Gods name ordered all those coins and its souly users from 4chan lol. I dont think they will appreciate in value I think it's just a 4chan meme.

I am sticking to regular maple leaf coins personally. I have a valcambi multibar I wasted money on when I first started and a ten ounce bar but I learned fast that one ounce coins are the best overall. I like ordering the package where it's a dollar cheaper because you get them from any assorted year. All the ones I have received have no milk spots. I even got a few year 2000 ones that are "firework privy" (small picture of fireworks) that are worth more. The premiums on those bring the price to like 38 dollars. I'm waiting to order more because I'm not comfortable with the waiting times in case a company decides to steal my money or cancel my order due to a bull rush if that happens or something. I'm not an expert or particularly genius just sharing my piece.

I did order one special coin from Silver Shield because Chris Duane is awesome and I support him so I needed at least one of his coins. I got it for a steal of a deal the price went up 16 dollars within a week of buying it. Silver Shield is awesome and was worth the extra money. Something meaningful that will appreciate in value. Highly recommend. Pic related is the coin I got it's more beautiful in person and it's from 2013 he only started minting in 2012. Got the insignia on the back of course too. Bought a special capsule for it too for a dollar so it can be a conversation piece one day. I'll pass it down the family one day.

>>18428015
I'm banking on people selling the silver they panic bought and then scooping up more to add to the mystique of my character whenever someone finds my dead body

>>18428494
>"We did a body cavity search of the cadaver... You might want to come take a look at this, chief"

>>18428494
>we're going to need a couple of extra guys to help haul out all this silver

Where can one currently purchase Gold/Silver bullion at spot?

>>18428477

waow very translucent and good color !

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>>18427742
$60 eoy

>>18428562
Nowhere. Spot is becoming less and less of a real term

>>18428494
The only ID I carry with me is a state issued medical marijuana card. I'm hoping if anyone needs to identify my body one day that my weed card is the only proof of who I am.

>>18428588
Is that when I trade for gold or wait for it to go higher?

>>18428592
Where can I find the next best thing?

>>18427855
no?

>>18428608
> $60 eoy
> Is that when I trade for gold or wait for it to go higher?
If you are thinking about trading for Gold you may want to look at the Gold / Silver ratio ( 109 right now ) as an indicator.

>>18428634
Extraction rates matter
It may not be within this very decade, but it shouldn't be too long after that when we see Silver begin to surpass Gold.

>>18428621
You can buy 400 oz bars of gold by purchasing futures contracts and demanding delivery, the premium to spot isn't too bad

>>18428621
https://findbullionprices.com/closest-to-spot

>>18427316
Does anyone know any info about getting gold / silver converted into stamped bullion by a refinery or mint? I usually get my gold certified at an assay office but now that I ve been hanging out here more I kind of want to convert my gold dust down into some coins or bars.

>>18428673
>https://findbullionprices.com/closest-to-spot
Thanks a ton, anon.

>>18428659
>demanding delivery
You can't do this

>>18428627
Stop lying you little shit. They'd better be in stock when I make my next purchase OR ELSE

>>18428720
On futures contracts you can

first time on biz, question, lets say i want to buy precious metal, $50-$100 every paycheck, should it be gold? silver? I had my eyes on mercury dimes because its silver and ive always liked the design. lets say i wanted to put aside $50 every paycheck, what would you buy up? I know they got half a gram gold for sale, would that be okay? just trying to not spend all my money and instead quench my thirst of buying things on stuff i can actually hold on to. is silver even worth buying?

>in before broke dick nigger

>>18428741
No no you can't

What is this pattern called?

>>18428659
>You can buy 400 oz bars of gold by purchasing futures contracts and demanding delivery
Fuck, maybe you can brother. I don't have $800,000 floating around.

>>18428773
Buy whatever you can find that not only fits within your budget, but also has the lowest premium (sales price divided by spot price.)

>>18428741
the comex does not even have any 400oz bars
thats all in london

the new etf is empty

>>18428794
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AND
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>18428789
https://www.kitco.com/news/2020-03-24/CME-resolving-physical-gold-squeeze-with-delivery-of-100-ounce-400-ounce-and-1kg-bars.html

You can, most don't. COMEX hasn't quite defaulted yet.

>>18428741
>he thinks he can demand physical delivery from futures contracts
everybody point and laugh

>>18428651
>it shouldn't be too long after that when we see Silver begin to surpass Gold.

Bullshit, gold jewelry alone makes it more valuable than silver.

>>18428840

>>18428799

my only problem with silver is this, will people buy it back? i know with gold any corner you go you can sell it quick, but since ive never done this, i dont know how that converts with silver, will people always buy it off you?

>>18428840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbmt9_DVo3E

According to Ted Butler you can. Most traders do not demand delivery. I understand there is not enough gold available to cover all their paper contracts, again as I said most traders don't demand delivery.

>>18428851
I think by performance he meant in regards to percentages not overall price (though this too could change one day).

>>18428773
honestly buy what ever you can find. Set yourself a budget.

>>18428889
JP Morgan has all the gold and silver? Not the first time I'm hearing this.

>>18428887
Yes, just look at google maps for "gold and silver shop" to find places. If you're still not certain just ask them in person for an answer.
Any place you see selling random year coins or generic bars are getting that inventory from buy-backs.

>>18428889
Yea teds the only faggot saying that right now

all the rules and laws on the books say they can payout in cash for settlement
Teds a faggot on this one

metalfags on suicide watch every day
https://twitter.com/CryptoBull/status/1215388111443722247

>>18428853
I remember in elementary school we had this really cool toy phone in the classroom that we always played with then the teacher forbid it and I dont recall why but me and a friend sneaked off the playground during recess and went into the room to play with it and the teacher caught us and we started crying and were pretty sorry about it.

>>18428773
One week buy some silver then next week buy some gold, rotate. Or just do 80% silver and rest on gold.

>>18428994
>>18429025
You guys need to chill the fuck out. I was joking. No way anon can afford 400 oz of gold.

>>18429040
its all good m8

But really Teds the only guy saying that the comex is solvent right now. Everyone knows thats not the case.

>>18429056
> But really Teds the only guy saying that the comex is solvent right now. Everyone knows thats not the case.
Comex is not insolvent RIGHT NOW. If the price discovery becomes accurate then Comex will blow up because they can't afford to settle contracts. This is why the volume in the futures market has been decreasing week and week this month. They have to unwind the short positions before they allow the price to go up.

>>18428851
>>18428911
No, Silver will outpace Gold in price.

See extraction rates.
I'm not doing the research for you.

>>18429103
Baloney

>>18429103
In growth % or in spot price per ounce?

>>18429103
Curious how old you are. I've heard this for decades.

>>18429204
Keep in mind, I said this will take a while to come to fruition, mentioning first that I don't suspect this will happen within the next decade.

What sorts of uses does Silver have? Can you consider all of them?
What of Gold?

>>18429169
Both, but, again, the latter will not come any time soon.
I see this as an investment for old age. I don't expect this to happen in the next few years.

can someone explain this here, why are there so many people who buy this for more than what the silver is actually worth?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Gram-999-Pure-Solid-Fine-Silver-Bullion-Valcambi-Suisse-Bar-Investment-COA/231044181059?epid=861372165&hash=item35cb4e6c43%3Ag%3A-MwAAOxyFbpR67R1&LH_BIN=1

>>18429285
>can someone explain this here, why are there so many people who buy this for more than what the silver is actually worth?
why bother buying designer clothing when you could just go to walmart and get the same pants and shirt? it's all 100% cotton so what is the difference? status? preference? resale value? take your pick.

>>18429103
Dont have to tell me twice. I am ON board.

>>18428443

you a china man?

>>18429433
Us too fren

Futures market is opened and down

>>18429270
If silver becomes too cost prohibitive like gold, companies will use something else.

>>18429481
If silver becomes prohibitively costly I make it because 80% of my portfolio is physical silver holdings
Stay mad

>>18428773

Check your state sales tax laws, there is usually a value threshold between tax exempt and non-expemt sales. So while you are saving 50-100 per week, your purchasing power may only be 40-80 per week unless you buy in bulk.

>>18429481
kek
basically this >>18429535
poor normies...

>>18429535
I hope your silver becomes valuable one day! I have 5% of portfolio in silver ETFs, you guys will be doing a good job of raising the price for me.

>>18428564
A wise man in this thread

I am unleashing 60% power of my weaponized autism on https://www.cftc.gov/MarketReports/CommitmentsofTraders/index.htm

It's all public data. Short and long positions for each bank can be determined. It appears the short positions are shrinking. Anyone else know how to read or search these things?

>>18429605
physical or nothing, moran

>>18428492
lmao yup. I think Larry is probably shocked to all hellfire thinking why the batcoins are so damn popular

Gold 1915: $19
Gold Today: $1,700
89x Gain

Silver 1915: $0.50 per ounce
Silver Today: $15.50 per ounce
31x Gain

DJIA 1915: 99
DJIA Today: 23,700
239x Gain

So, you guys are throwing money away just in case there's some doomsday apocalypse where society collapses? Because you sure as hell aren't doing it to make money.

>>18429647
Its more a store of value than an speculative investment. I dont buy the hyper inflation argument. It's a good part of a portfolio but I wouldn't put precious metals more than 20% of a portfolio.

>>18429647
Yes we are all over 100 years old and comparing gold and silver to the stock market is 100% perfect and makes sense and there are no other factors what so ever and the situation today is the same as over 100 years ago.

Based post.

>>18429647
>doomsday apocalypse where society collapses
don't need that to win with metals

>>18429647
gold return since 2000
489%
9% annualized

Total S&P 500 Return Dividends Reinvested since 2000
185%
5.3% annualized

wow. it's like gold is negatively correlated. it's like financial assets can't have poor returns per 20 year periods.

haha yeah. the market will go up 7% per year. infinitely. infinite growth is possible in a finite world. haha. yeah. number go up!

>>18428474
This is a gold ingot right? Chinese?

alright anons, i want to give everyone an update on silver.
i purchased 20 ASE's on the 31st and they were delivered on the 9th
i got 40 ASE's on the 5th and they'll be here tomorrow.
also i just ordered a bat coin yesterday, no update but its easter so no surprise

i think we can safely say the "demand" was mostly hype and fear. i've heard the US mint has asked to go back to work, multiple countries mints are still functioning.
i'm still surprised about the premiums to be honest, i wonder if the warehouses are restocking before lowering premiums

>>18430096
>i think we can safely say the "demand" was mostly hype and fear.
Got a regular George Soros up in here.

>>18430096
>restocking

>>18429481
listen to more market commentators bruh. silver demand is inelastic in the industries its used. they have to buy it no matter what the price is because its what they have to use

>>18429647
do tell us what companies from 1915 are still in the dow 30?

>>18427236
I hate how’s the a bunch of fucking tourist faggots just getting into sliver that know nothing about inherent value of the metal and Austrian school economics
Makes a chad like me sick

>>18428555
>>18428561
kek’d

>>18429643
Larry here. Who do you think started this meme, you smoothbrains?

>>18429647
Can not compare gold only with US stock market which was tiny in 1915. You have to compare it with a basket of stocks consisting and also put in German, Russian and Chinese stocks etc.

When you see that most countries stock markets and or companies got btfo and only Dji survived more or less flawless it becomes clear that overall Gold performed quite similar to the stock market.

Excuse me, but I'm the real Larry.

>>18430295
Cut 'em some slack, everyone starts somewhere.

Certified Larry

>>18430334
> Larry here. Who do you think started this meme, you smoothbrains?
Blessings upon you.

>>18428562
>>18428621

https://digi-broker.com/?assetid=La7oaPL5gA8maMx4rRsjta6JKoZARGgg82Js7m#assets

>>18430096
Congratulations on losing 50% of your investment that's quite an accomplishment almost considered usury or fraud

>>18427763
Theres 100% premium that's going back to zero. Now is a once in a lifetime opportunity to sell physical silver

>>18430295
Austrian economist get btfo by Chicago school.

https://youtu.be/UDLCa7maGZA

>>18430429
No way. Trumps playing 7D chess and the world's on fire. Also the gold to silver ratio is higher than ever. They're practically giving silver away still at these prices. I'm in for the long haul when we go back to a metal standard. The prices will rise. This is NOT the time to sell. A lot of smart people all agree that the prices will go up.

>>18430628
I've never heard of a smart person who paid a 100% premium

>>18430628
i think silver will spike shortly. then dip and slowly climb to $60 an ounce.
its a shame paper silver is a scam or it'd be easy to make some money right now

>>18427236
>be you
>be yuppie faggot you (you but you think apple stock is good and it doesnt matter how few smartphones they sell)
>hear about crypto a decade after every one else
>think your tech savy
>lose your retirement savings...
>again...
>through the binance scam
>after your current employer stole 2/3 of what you paid into your company provided 401k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfHb-avHjO0

>>18430767
I once tried to sell 10 BTC for $1,600 and the guy refused to buy because it was 25% over the current market price.
I wonder who is fucking that guy's wife these days.

>>18430767
Premium over paper price? Why is that relevannt?

>>18427236
>>18427744
>>18428099
>>18428135
>>18430096
>>18430295
>>18430403
>>18430767
>>18430887

>>18430295
I, for one, like having a precious metal without worshipping jews.

>>18429980
yea they were shaped that way to work better on their scales back in the day.

>>18431013
Are they available for sale?

>>18430960
So you were trying to do what I suggested selling at extreme premiums trying to make an extra $4000

>>18431059
> So you were trying to do what I suggested selling at extreme premiums trying to make an extra $4000
Pretty much yeah, and I fucked up. If I had held my coins instead of selling into the rally to get a slight premium I would have $80,000 today instead of $1600 in 2013. Thought this should give some perspective on what a "premium" with an impeding bull market.

What about silver stocks?

>>18430767
Well when the spot price was 23.50 cad and the spot was only like four dollars I wouldn't be paying much less than I am now. I think with the premiums it reflects the current REAL price. The demand was sky high for a week or so. Everything was sold out everywhere. To each their own though. The premiums are high but I'm still considering buying honestly the only thing that stops me is that the wait for shipping is until may 5th to may 20th at my usual dealer (silvergoldbull).

You could hold this for 200 years to pay 100% in fees/premium like yall brag about

>>18431092
You fucked up because you didn't instantly buy back for a $4000 profit. You gambled

>>18431149
Sorry when the *premium* was only like four dollars

I remember when I was spending all the money I had on Bitcoin in 2011 for $10 a piece and people said I was crazy and stupid.
I'm still crazy, but probably not stupid. Happy to get any silver I can right now for under $25 shipped. My current stack cost basis is about $22.

>>18427236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3tX9OsESHI
Silver Bullion TV is live. gtf in here!

>>18431046
you can find them on ebay but no telling what your actually buying. a common scam back in the 1850s-60s when these were popular was to cast the ingot around a core made of iron or lead and try to pass that off when they reached places like california or BC. There are a few on sale online that are in the US and are probably more trustworthy than the "o yes totally legit ancient silver bar $40" chinese sellers.

>>18431149
Maybe the price will double and you will break even I just dont understand you want silver so bad this second that you will settle for a half stack

>>18431046
fuck forgot what they were called. They were called Teals or "Boat money" in the west due to their shape.

>>18431264
You're thinking of it like it's a stock. Most PM investors are banking on the inevitable failure of un-backed fiat

>>18431278

>>18431290
this, PM holders are waiting for inflation. silver could easily triple, we've barely seen any of the inflation from obama. this could explode fast...

now in all fairness i doubt it will, but i do expect inflation to start over taking returns of other investments. and yeah i think within 5 years we'll see $60/oz silver and probably 3500-4000/oz gold

>>18431408

Chinesium

>>18431420
So if silver goes to $60 and you paid $23 for a meme coin you have traded a 450 % profit for a 160% profit

>>18431526
Historically, memes have always outperformed the market. I'm heavily invested in memes.

We got any richfags here who can actually do this?

>>18431577
The guy above you could have but he chose to lose half his money instantly instead

>>18431616
he's having a lot more fun though.

>>18431526
Show me where I can get silver for $15/oz.

>>18431408
there are authentic ones out there, you just have to look under antique coins or similar categories. I am not a collector though so take that with a grain of salt.

>>18431824
The fuck

>>18431677
SLV is 14.50 sell in a few months as the premium collapses and buy your meme coins but a bigger stack with your savings

>>18431916

>>18431677
What makes you think spot price will be the same when premiums drop?

I'm shocked you can buy these. I thought they were beyond expensive. In casinos, these things are always on the Chinese themed slot machines

>>18431922
Sorry, see:
>>18431941

>20k uncirculated batbois @ $178 each
>55.5k bullion batbois at ~$115 each
>total batboi market cap of $9.94M

The batboi market cap is vastly smaller than most shitcoins shilled on /biz/. And due to how silver pricing works, there's essentially massive liquidity in the sell side (for now) so we can buy without slippage.

This is an actual opportunity for /biz/ to buy up all the batbois and then dump them on the normies.

>>18431941
It doesn't matter what the spot price is the premium will collapse to its normal-5 to +5. The SLV is your hedge

>>18432047
Normies are not numismatics

>>18432104
Gotcha, now I get what you're saying.

>>18430392
scam

>>18432047
Would you like to buy some self-sealing bat bois?

>>18432130

a numismatics is a coin or other medallion collectable made of metal, a numismatist is one who collects numismatics.

>>18432521
Sounds like a protestant denomination

Anons I really want to buy a 3 pound bar of poured copper just for the hell of it. Is that a major waste of $25?

>>18432597
Do you know how to construct an alternator with it?

>>18432625
No.

>>18432597
That depends, do you plan on mixing it with tin?

>>18432634
Get some of these instead

I keep hesitating at the checkout screen on my purchase of almost 4000 dollars. Idk if I get bars, eagles, gold, silver, bat memes, or what.

I've been looking around to see how much these are going for now but the only one I can find that is sort of like it is on Ebay for $2000. If I was going to try to sell right now, which I certainly am not, how much do you think I could get for it? A couple of places have them listed for around $1800 but they are not available. I can't find this exact one at all.

>you will never have one of these and fill it with gold eagles

>>18432783
I don’t know about you all... but because of Corona this is the first time since college that I’ve felt alive. I have lots of silver and been waiting for something like this to happen for 5 years. The point where things get so bad that 1 silver Roosevelt dime will buy me a blowjob from a formerly well to do housewife and her 18 year old daughter at the same time. I’ve been waiting in the shadows laughing at these cuck husbands who buy their wives range rovers instead of buying silver bullion... knowing that I’ll be face fucking their wives mouths for the 1.30$ it cost me to buy that silver dime.

Just yesterday at Whole Foods I seamlessly entered into conversation about Corona with a roastie milf that had a ring on her finger in the water aisle... and I said this is all a cover for trump to bring us back on a gold standard. She started looking at me in amazement like she wanted me to paint her lips in cum. At the end of the conversation I’m like take my number l have plenty of protection and freeze dried food if you ever need it and she took it from me

>>18432699
My vote is eagles. Maybe some 5 oz/10 oz bars

>>18432836
Same same

>>18428366
better get mining

Selling a tube of eagles tomorrow for $420

>>18432836
You're kind of a strange one.

Is this amusingly obvious jew coin worth the price?

>>18432875

>>18432875
>>18432885
Despite I have a fuzzy head feeling that is leaving me feel drunk even though I only drank water today and ate normal food, I find this absolutely freaking hilarious. This should be the next meme coin

>>18431420
>and yeah i think within 5 years we'll see $60/oz silver and probably 3500-4000/oz gold

Again, you guys keep valuing gold and silver in fiat. I'm the merc blowjob meme originator, i love silver more than giving chicks golden showers. But if you told me silver would be at 60$ and gold 4k in 5 years, I'd sooner sell my entire stack deposit it into binance and try and catch some TRON or Cardano pump.

Something has to break. Merely maintaining our already totally devalued purchasing power while the rest of the country goes into poverty isnt the reason to invest in silver. There has to be a reset, most go into poverty but then we get filthy rich.

This is why only 200 ounces of silver could be a make it stack. Silver goes to 200$, and you now have 40k. Big deal. 40k is nothing, but when there is a deflationary collapse of all asset prices, that 40k will be like having 40k in 1930 or whenever, when prices were cheap as fuck.

If silver only maintains while the rest of the country falls into the abyss, then there is very little reason to trade fiat for silver.

>>18432597
> Is that a major waste of $25?
No way my dude. If it's gonna make you happy you buy that shit.

>>18432950
How does this end? That is what I can't figure out. Nothing ever happens and the people in charge don't want a change. What would a reset look like in slow motion? Assuming no new fiat notes are issued and USD remains.

>>18432857
what did you buy it for?

remind me how this shit is not overbought

>>18427895
Gold will see at least 3000 in the next few years.

>>18432950
Buy the factories, but the land, buy the machines that will make you even more wealthy. You need to use this to flip the economy on its Jew head.

JUST CONVINCED A HOOKER TO ACCEPT A ROLL OF 1965 QUARTERS AS PAYMENT FOR A BLOWJOB ITS HAPPENING MY DUDES

>>18433427
Well, this ends in the current parasitic class getting BTFO and an authoritarian government with no real affect because it's made of faggots and everyone that wants to make it having to work a lot harder and longer than they already do. So, there will mostly be a changing of the guard and the biggest mafiosi winning. There will be no war, no mass anger, just every day it will get worse. One day you'll just wake up and see on the news tanks in DC and listen to a speech about how things will finally turn around and get better - 'the corruption has to end and the people listened to!' Governments will try everything to keep power and they have all the guns and tanks. Fundamentally the West has been hollowed out and their isn't enough brains, strength and perseverance left to reverse the last three decades of slowly riding the the cliffs edge with so many useless mouths to feed. Ex-communist countries, when they collapsed, had an almost instantaneous optimism about the future and that within six months or at most a year things would be on the right direction and people would live the way God intended - wearing blue jeans, McDonald's on every second corner, Nike shoes and Coke in the newly purchased fridge. What actually followed was an even greater collapse for the next two decades. And only in the last decade have they all been digging their way out of it.

>>18433960
The blowjob heard 'round the world...

>>18433427
i dont know either we all get fucked to high heaven and rounded up and slaughtered by shitskins or everyone gets poor and we become very wealthy in comparison to your non stacker.

But it has to be relatively smooth transition in the sense that, basically 99% of the population probably doesnt own 1 ounce of silver, but that 1% who do....still make up what? 1-2 million americans? And Im guessing 90% of them dont own over 500 ounces. So...a lot will be destitute...but there are probably enough stackers with 100-500 ounces of silver where things can start building again. You wont need much to prosper if you have some.

>>18433960
>a roll

>you will never be a honest prospector from out of town, stroll into the local saloon cigar smoke filling the air along with a hint of malt, piano playing in the background and smack one of these bad boys on the bar and order

>>18433960
I did too... last week. But.... she just let me beat off on her cuz of covid

>>18434147
>Drinks paid for the night

>>18434147
>>18434161
Never forget what they took from us. 16 to 1 ratio will return, just as prophesized by William Jennings Bryan (pbuh)

>>18434147
buddy I do that all summer, and yes most old school mining towns are nearly identical to how they are now, they may look like tourist traps, but thats exactly what they were back when the mines were running. They were just milking miners and tin horns instead.

>>18433960
>$10 bj
Holy shit, must've felt great without any teeth to get in the way

>>18434147
also you may have the coin but you got no NUGGET

>>18432950

>Something has to break.

The system is breaking in front of our eyes.

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/action-plan-g20-debt-relief-program-worlds-poorest-countries-being-finalized

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/feds-faustian-bargain-were-experiencing-end-game-great-debt-super-cycle

Scottsdale still hasnt shipped my order. Been almost 1 month.

>only 2 bats
Am I gonna make it

>>18434670
Yes. One to watch your front, and one to watch your back.

>>18434380
You guys think there'll be a deflationary period for fiat where gold/silver are still cheap enough to horde? I haven't been in the game long and I want some more time but I feel like it's just going to get worse from here

>>18434380
Quick rundown?

>>18434688
Same shit different empire, our monetary system is about to change fundamentally

>>18427742
Selling before the greater depression. You’re a fag.

>>18434684
I dont really know what you are asking here. Just keep getting as much silver and gold as you can irrelevant of price or high premiums.

The only ones who will make it are people who hold gold and silver.

Dont value gold and silver in terms of fiat. The dollar price is irrelevant. gold and silver are not investments they are money/real savings. When the collapse happens youll be in a great spot.

>>18428193
If you can find them for cheap otherwise just buy “junk” silver

>>18434684
Mike Maloney says deflation will drop the paper gold price meanwhile all physical will be sold (no deliveries anyway) so good luck taking advantage

>>18434697
US still the best, no one trusts China, Russia is a hedge, UK is even worse, Euro backed by Germany with horrible demographics, Japan all old.

Say it with me U-S-A!

Guys 25T debt is not that much, this is only the start

>>18434684
Its already started. Energy is dirt cheap, real estate is already going down. Look around its already begun, real question is when will the music stop?

>>18434760
what does that mean for gold and silver

1 oz gold bar vs 1 oz gold coin. What's the better buy?

I'm considering buying 1oz Gold Britannia Best Value 24ct or Metalor 1oz Gold Bar

>>18434840
go for the coin, 1 ounce bars look so weak

>>18434840
1000% coin is the better buy and has better resale value

>>18434734
jerome powell and kashkari have overtly stated tat they will print money indefinitely to avoid another 2008 situation. The dollar will slowly become worthless overtime but it could take awhile, especially since their printing is not going into the mainstreet economy

>>18427236
just got this 10 oz'r with my trumpbucks. am I cool now?

>>18430628
what's the most I should be paying per ozt? obviously people aren't going to sell at spot

>>18435074
spot is just a Jewish meme.

>>18435019

Should I get two 1 oz gold coins and get some silver later (already have 91 oz silver mostly in eagles) or just keep getting silver?

>>18430295
>Austrian school
>Chicago school
brainlets.
the most accurate economic model right now is what i call...the Los Angeles school. look at how much brrr went on in the past, and how much brrr is going on now. look at how overvalued pussy is because of all this easy "money" floating around. but somehow pussy is also self-devalued by the fact that even hot girls use dildos. the cost of pussy is somehow $0 and $10,000+....wrap your minds around that...fiat is dead. you either have PMs, land, meat, defense tools...or you don't....if you don't own land and cattle to graze on that land, you are the cattle. the elites are milking us, percentage point by percentage point. they think it is their right because fancy themselves superior.

This picture kills the panic buyer.

>>18430767
>>18430429
premium in fiat term is meaningless
see pic. what did mike mean by this

>>18435599
It means he listed at 120 first and no one bought so he dropped it 5 dollars but forgot to edit the listing details.

>>18428794
1% isnt bad and we are going to pump anyway

>>18430628
>A lot of smart people all agree that the prices will go up
just got incredibly bearish on silver

>>18435856
dude the premiums are holding, alot of used stock is still out of stock. scary thing is demand will hold with all the normies buying now that the buys already bought theirs.

$30 by EoY $60 by EoD

>>18435890
i meant the whales already bought, now the normies are buying. demand might be enough to keep premiums high until prices return to normal.

with any luck $20 ASE's by end of may

>>18434115
exactly my thoughts

>>18435964
The whales dipped their tow in the water. I don't even know about that analogy but I am sure you get it. That dip in the water fried the market. Normalfags are not at the stage of buying. Normalfags that have some silver are at the stage of unloading their mini stacks. Imagine thousands of idiots selling off 1-10oz of silver right now on eBay and other secondary markets - this is what's happening and it's pathetic. Fags like us are in the 100-1,000oz range and are just desperately hoping we'll be able to buy close to spot in the coming months and double, triple or quadruple our stacks. I've set aside some gay fiat to buy what I hope will be something like 4,000oz when things come back online. Ironically I think this volume by a small fraction of the population will be a nothingburger as normies will be enjoying their $40 sale the month before. I think by the time normies want to buy they will mostly be shut out of the market and resort to buying anything that's gold at silver... like spoons, pins, dishes and medals and all the shit that's got to be refined and I think that's going to be stupid as they might destroy a lot of value doing that. But normal people are retards and can't help it. I think we need to pray.

Can anyone tell me what Batboi on eBay to buy? I was going to buy the one that's 117 but it seems there's a frosty and a smooth version? Does Larry have the smooth version then? Does it matter at all?

>>18427236
I like looking at your shiny metals but I prefer to own numbers on a screen why is this?

>>18437874
i got shinies from larry but then heard he had frosties. willl report back on the latest order coming this week.

Enjoying the daily slam at the open? I hope so.Your taxes pay for it

>>18428118
My small slv calls position alone would make me a 10 millionaire

>>18438486
Its just the (((bankers))) in jew york doing what they always do. This has been going on for years kid.

>>18438893
No fucking shit, retard. Pay attention and you might see that this has been more obvious since
the stimulus package, kid

>>18438937
Lol, Butthurt much child Where have you been the last ten years?

>>18428118

God let this be true.

>>18428118
No we won't. The economy will keep on chugging and silver will remain a shitty investment.

>>18434659
Same for me. Starting to get uneasy, bought gold around 1500 and silver around 16, feels like they're stalling for something, or planing on canceling outright.

>>18439823
>buying from Scottsdale
>not apmex

>>18435264
You should get the gold anon. Diversity is not good in countries, but very good in portfolios.

>>18438111
because you are a brainlet anon.

>>18439582
Precious metals are not supposed to be investments. They are used as a safe store of value. When fiat is near worthless, silver and gold will still have value.

Anyone else like to collect vintage money?

>>18428193
U buy those combibars in gold/silver, if u believe that u will not these pms to trade your daily bread in 1g silver.
U wanna the molst silver for your money? get 10 oz bars ,1 kg bar ect

Hi /biz/, /k/ommando here that’s just started stacking. It’s not much only 23oz of silver and 3g of gold. I’ve got about another 10oz of ASE’s on the way, but what should I look at buying heavily? More miscellaneous gold and silver? ASE’s/gov backed coins? My main goal is to just convert a nice bit of my savings into physical assets in case the worse comes to worst, so I’d appreciate any input and advice for a stacklet.

>>18440394
Ampex are the highest premium jews out there.

>>18428492
This valcambi shit seems like such a shitty fuckin deal, 17 bucks for less than 10g worth of silver lol

Who even buys these things beside boomers

american eagles comin in, wanna get some bats too

Do I incur any taxes if I take out a defi loan and buy silver.

>>18433885
>>18433972
>>18437019
THAT ID

>>18441521
hey /k/omrade

The ASE and the AGE have lots of advantages because they are currency, specifically regarding counterfeit protection (fake ASE's fall under the jurisdiction of the secret service just like fake bennies), they are protected from capital gains tax bc they are us currency (unlike rounds like the buffalo), and they are easily recognizable (you'll have no problem selling)

you're on the right track, someone might tell you to buy some mercury dimes to have things that are easier for trade, but as far as asset protection goes ASE/AGE is what I'm going with. I might pick up a 10oz bar or two if the premiums are low enough. Consider that everything you have will need to be sold or verified for collateral.

Stay diverse, keep cash on hand so you can buy if you need to, keep pms on hand if cash dumps. don't get overbought in pms by going in too quick.

Dollar cost average, buy the same amount once a month and slowly stock up over time, just like how you would a accumulate ammo 1k rounds at a time over a few years

Gold trading slight UP.
Silver down 3% today.

I believe gold will go up all week. Silver is gonna be make or break this week for the short-term rally. It could keep going down towards 10....or this could be slight bump towards 20...

>>18441751
Boomers dont buy meme coins they sell them to stupid millennials on their first panic party

>>18441816
You save on taxes when you panic sell after panic buying and claim your tax deduction

>>18441956
>they are protected from capital gains tax bc they are us currency
False. All bullion sales are subject to capital gains tax. No exemptions. This isn't like the UK where the government minted coins are exempt.

Re-read the rules.

Are the Armenian Noah's Ark worth buying?

How much should I pay for an ASE? I'm a stacklette with only 8 ozt, but I'd really like an ASE for my first coin

>>18442047
>caring about spot price
nigger it doesn't matter if silver spot drops down to $10 per ozt, NOBODY is going to sell an ounce of silver for that much, NOBODY. Maybe its exciting for those with paper-silver but anyone that wants to have silver-in-hand will never be paying 10 fucking dollars per ozt

>>18442418
I paid $21 at my local coin store recently, seen some peer to peer ASE sales around $425. I'd like to hear what other anons are paying

>>18442418
$16

>>18442504
sell me one for $16 I'll take 2 rolls please

>>18431945

friend, you westerner have just no idea how much of these there are in india,china and all of asia.

i'd bet most of that gold have not been traded for century as its mostly passed down with marriage in family.

wouldn't want to support communists and buy anything chinese at the moment. No sir you chinks can get fucked

>>18435576
lol

Recieved some Sunshine 1 oz rounds today from JM, putting me over 50 ozt. Feels pretty good desu

>>18441521
Welcome. You'll soon realize most of the burgers posting in /pmg/ are /k/ as well. Lots of crossover with the PM and 2A community. I'd recommend just getting whatever you can closest to spot atm. Premiums are insane especially on ASE. One thing to note is in the long distant future, when the fine comes to sell if you have over $10k you'll there will need to be a capital gains tax filed, UNLESS it's ASE you can sell any amount with no tax filing. That being said I'd still wait to buy large quantities of them.

>>18443051
Based

>>18442474
Sorry, I didn't realize that having an interest in tracking the impeding implosion of the PM markets made me a "nigger". I'm just trying to stay informed and have some idea to plan for the future.

>>18443737
the only time the price of PM's will implode is when people get desperate to have immediately available cash, like "im going to starve to death if I don't somehow offload my stack" desperate. the spot could be 1 dollar per ounce and people are still never going to sell for that low because THEY spent 20 per ounce and cant take a 90% loss.

wait 6 weeks before buying in any substantial amount. by then the panic buyers will feel stupid and will want to recoup some of the money they spent

>>18443874
whatever nigger

>>18443737
That tard is bragging about instantly losing 50 % of his investment . Nothing is dumber than a silver idiot

>>18443915
you should short it since youre such a smart investor

>>18443477
>when the fine comes to sell if you have over $10k you'll there will need to be a capital gains tax filed, UNLESS it's ASE you can sell any amount with no tax filing.
Again with the inaccurate information. Does anyone ITT actually read the law?

1. ALL PM SOLD in USA ARE SUBJECT TO CG TAX. NO EXEMPTIONS. American Mint bullion are NOT exempt.

2. The $10k rule is just for reporting that people bought/sold PMs. That's the only thing in the form people have to write when you sell $10k+. It's not "filing capital gains tax." Sure, if you sold with cash you can just hide the money and not pay taxes. Just let's not pretend that the law actually lets you do it.

3. It's not just ASE's that are exempt from the 10k form rule. Philharmonics, maple leafs, etc. are all exempt as well. It's not just American eagles.

Taketh now thine flight, my winged hussar

>>18443948
Thx for clarifying. And if you were selling to a dealer chances are slim he'd pay you straight up cash, so if it is a check or money order that would trigger it with your bank

>>18443915
where did you get that from? literally all I said was that nobody is going to sell their silver for 10 an ounce even if spot-jews say that's all its worth.

>>18444303
You're welcome. The only country that I know that lets you not pay CG tax for government minted bullion is the UK. In the UK any coin with a royal monarch's face is exempt from capital gains tax.

No similar law exists in the United States.

>>18444355
>In the UK any coin with a royal monarch's face is exempt from capital gains tax.
Correction: any coin minted by UK's royal mint are exempt. For example, Canadian coins with the Queen's face are not exempt as it's Canadian.

what are you anons gonna get with your trumpbucks?

Make a new thread retard

>>18441618
It depends some things are high some things are low always price around the big dealers and ebay

>>18443477
when I see retards like you constantly spouting bad information when it comes to PMs it really makes me consider selling all I've got
How can you invest in something if you can't even comprehend the rules around it... Especially for something as simple as PMs

There is no magic over 10k capital gains tax or tax exempt in the case of government minted coins if you sell your bullion for a profit (this includes silver eagles) you pay capital gains on your profit
Now if you sell for cash the who is going to force you to pay this tax? Nobody. In theory if you accept 10001 dollars on cash you must report that to the IRS but the onus is on you

>>18443171
I believe that is what the cost would be normally and a discount is applied once you go to the cart. I remember Monument did that when I purchased the promo deals.

>>18444542
Looking at the Ferro Concepts Slickster and some plates, and probably a nice red dot as well. The rest will be saved to offset my PM purchases from the last month. How about you anon?

Anyone buying the Ghana Giants of the Ice Age Mammoths? 1st edition of the 8 coin series, only 15,000 mintage and a really nice looking coin that will probably be the nicest looking of the series. I have 10 of them and considering wiping out any store that gets them back in stock.

>>18443171
>10 oz of silver
>$155 worth by spot price
>$175 - $155 = $20 premium on 10 oz
>$20 ÷ 10 oz = $2/oz premium
Are you implying this is a rip-off?

>>18431549
I fucking love muscle men

Update fags. Some of the largest dealers are now refusing buyback in gold and silver of almost all coins.

What happens if my order of silver never comes? The guy who sold it to me sent me a message and said "let's hope it comes. These are hectic times. Sorry".

What the hell.

>>18444994
why

>>18445084
what do you mean? you file a complaint that you didn't get your stuff and get your money back. are you 13? did you seriously ask this question as if the dude will just get to keep your money for providing no product?

>>18445084
You'll get your friggin package you paniced squirt boy LOL

>>18443051
very based. fuck commie chinks

>>18445119
>keep your money for providing no product?


You mean like a bank or a lawyer ?

>>18445189
yes exactly like that, its why every patriotic american should avoid ALL jewish institutions. keep your money in a safe at home and protect it with your life. banks are more likely to get robbed than your house anyways

>>18445241
FDIC insures up to 200,000 do you really think if someone robs a bank that it will be your money thats stolen

How do I liquidate my 401k??

>>18445433
dont fucking touch your 401k

>>18433723
They cant

>>18445433
The CARES Act allows for sponsors to elect the option to allow distributions from retirement plans with a payback period of 3 years before any penalties. Check with your HR. One of my clients has an employee pulling all $1,800 of her's

>>18437874
I did some research on this cause I wanted a frostyboi. It turns out frosties are only sold by the usmint. This is the "P" version (vapor blasted to give it to matte finish) which is limited to 20,000. The shiny one is the bullion version which is more like 55,000.
https://catalog.usmint.gov/national-park-of-american-samoa-2020-uncirculated-five-ounce-silver-coin-20AJ.html?cgid=product-schedule

I recently bought 20oz of rounds for $397 shipped. Should I cancel my order and wait another month or so for prices to fall and reorder?