/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18414912
Just wanted to get this off my chest
I don’t know about you all... but because of Corona this is the first time since college that I’ve felt alive. I have lots of silver and been waiting for something like this to happen for 5 years. The point where things get so bad that 1 silver Roosevelt dime will buy me a blowjob from a formerly well to do housewife and her 18 year old daughter at the same time. I’ve been waiting in the shadows laughing at these cuck husbands who buy their wives range rovers instead of buying silver bullion... knowing that I’ll be face fucking their wives mouths for the 1.30$ it cost me to buy that silver dime.
Just yesterday at Whole Foods I seamlessly entered into conversation about Corona with a roastie milf that had a ring on her finger in the water aisle... and I said this is all a cover for trump to bring us back on a gold standard. She started looking at me in amazement like she wanted me to paint her lips in cum. At the end of the conversation I’m like take my number l have plenty of protection and freeze dried food if you ever need it and she took it from me.

Post your batbois

Got my daily ASE

R8 stack

>>18415071
>keeping them in while sleeves
TAKE THEM OUT. IT HURTS.

>>18414978
what's the thing with sardines tho

>>18415087
I don't have any plastic holders yet, but somone pointed that out to be earlier so I ordered some. Don't worry anon they're on the way.

>>18415087
Oh and I'm also sending the indian heads + a few of the morgans to get slabbed. So I'm waiting until then to have them properly encapsulated.

>>18415071
Not really stackin desu. That's coin collecting

>>18415129
You guys always talk about the "collapse coming," it'll probably be more valuable to have silver quarters/dimes than to have bigger silver dollars.

I want to get bigger, more refined silver and gold but I like the numismatic side. If you get a good deal, you can raise your equity in a piece almost immediately whereas most bullion is pretty set in its value

>>18414978
Ordered one this morning. How many mm diameter?

>>18415110
You don't have deenz?

>>18415158
Numismatic will be wiped during a collapse. And I personally think demand will fade as boomers pass away. Nothing wrong with coin collecting but it's not the best bang for your buck "stack" wise. Junk silver sure, but not stabbed /graded stuff

>>18415071
Nice. Peace dollars, Morgans, and Walking Liberty halves are my favourites

>>18414978

>>18415179
I do, I'm fucking Portuguese, that's really our thing here, I just don't get the relation to stacks

>>18415191
Fair points. I'm only 21, there are a lot of people I know that are into coins as well but I can see where you're coming from. I hope the hobby doesnt die though, it's really fun.

>>18415193
I ordered a 10 stack of walkers this week, going to sell them off at retail later next week.

>>18415009
Boy I will sell you an eagle a day for $24

>>18415213
I don't think it will ever completely die, I just dont think demand will be as high in the years to come, which in turn will bring numismatic value down. Keep doing what u love though regardless, you got some nice coins all I have is 20 '64 kennedies as far as junk silver

>>18415128
Gotchya

>>18415191
that raises a question...let's say a boomer dies, has zero family and zero friends...and he has a shut load of silver in his closet. What happens to the silver? This will actually be a real reality for many boomers in the coming time.

>>18415293
as my gf's dad said, the gold and silver is on whoever else has the key to the apartment

>>18415293
Shit load* damn auto correct

>>18414969
This shit’s fucking hilarious

>>18414978
BatBox 414, reporting in

>>18415293
House is willed. If not it goes to sheriff's sale and is bought by city or bank. Then resold. Buyer has rights to everything in the house.

>>18415413
I always laugh when I read the words "water aisle"

>>18414969
Based and silverchad pilled.

>>18415436
You're going to leave that sealed aren't you?

>>18415504
Yes.

>>18414912

If there is deflation rather than inflation, might that not cause precious metals to collapse in price?

They managed to divert inflation into bubbles like real estate and the stock market after 2011, while pushing down the price of gold; why can't they do this again?

>>18415467
What the hell is a sheriff sale

>>18415504
This one shall remain sealed as well.

>>18415564
When I posted mine people kept telling me to open it.

>>18415616
Very nice. 2020s?

>>18415627
2018 I think.

>>18415564
>>18415616
you guys don't even grind your bullion on your genitals from time to time? It's literally taking the fun out

>>18415639
Wish I could afford a Monster Box of Gold. Wish Eagles were pure Gold. Buffalos are beautiful but personally prefer design of Eagles. Have to go with Buffalos for their purity.

Keep stacking frens, shits about to hit the fan here pretty soon.

>>18414912
Got a sunshine bar today. All cheaper bars are out of stock

>>18415194
Where did you get them and How much did you pay for the frostybois?

>>18415683
>this is normal goys
>go back to sleep

>>18415746
Way too much because I got them directly from the US Mint. I'm really hoping the price of these in the box goes sky high in the somewhat near future. I think the shiny ones are more common.

>>18415516

Does anybody have an answer for this?

This eBay seller is a coinshop with lots of feedback and a good deal on 1oz gold buffalos. $1829.96 as of this posting and no additional taxes unless you are in Minnesota.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143468791534

>>18415528
Forclosures and crap go through a process. I believe its the sheriffs dept that actually sells the house. The bank then buys it back.

>>18415516
>>18415942
There may be a fall in PM prices similar to '08, but if it follows that same pattern, there will be a serious uptick following (pic related). I was able to buy silver cheaper when spot was at $17/oz a few months back than I was last month after it fell to less than $12/oz. The fall in price is a reflection of a fall in the paper price not the physical. Just as today a spot price of $15.40 doesn't mean you will find physical silver for that price.

Hello sirs
I am Dutchfag and I could purchase bags of old Dutch coins. They contain 72% silver. Bags contain random coins from all years and value and are selected for weight. Bags can be sold by weight depending on what content silver you want, ie 720 gram silver content 1000 silver content.
These bags are way cheaper than say a couple of 2020 ASE stacks but I wonder if they are as useful (not to mention as pretty).
Now I think it would be cool to have some PM from my own soil but except gold I don't think we have actually good quality silver coins.
So I think I will rather stack those pretty ASE's and with gold I can stay closer to home.
Pic related is the loli queen wilhelmina, with 90% gold, 6,72 gram for about 345 euro. That will be the first piece of my stack and I guess I'll order like 40 eagles as well before monday in case prices go mooning.

>>18415991
Ah ok
You know, I got to say...strictly stacking silver eagles is fun. I get why people like em so much. They are flatter than your typical 1 ounce coin...why is that? Also, in BU condition, they are beyond sexy. They belong in a capsule forever. I can't stand blemished silver eagles. When you just feel the weight of silver, you know it's real money.

With all these mines shutting down and with silver so hard to even fabricate, I am damn well shocked the price hasn't shot up like a rocket.

>>18416062
Good shit

This post made me remember what I wanted to ask you all...do you guys think that life will go back to the way as we know it, or is this shit going to turn into a totalitarian/communist freak show?

Doesn't help that you have guys like this saying its over and that we are being controlled by a police state and that life as we know it will never reverse....he says and shows footage of military convoys and police beating people not following social distance rules. Anyway, I want to know your guys opinion on this all.

https://youtu.be/q78ZI9x454I

>>18416091
I might start stacking JFK half dollars, got any of those?

>>18416134
I use to. I sold em all like 5 years ago when I lost a job and was medically disabled for a period of time....glad I got passed that bullshit period in my life. Selling an entire stack of silver is one of the worst and most painful things I have done. I have a decent stack now, but damn do I miss my old stack.

>>18416062

What concerns me is that we are seeing policies which were completely unheard-of before. There is no restraint any more. More money-printing in a month than QE1, 2, and 3 combined. Talk of negative interest rates. The Fed buying everything, even stocks, via the backdoor. In the back of my mind I fear that they might be able to prop up this evil system indefinitely. It is true that there was a bull market in gold from 2008-2011, but then they found a way to suppress the price for nearly a decade.

>>18416062

What concerns me is that we are seeing policies which were completely unheard-of before. There is no restraint any more. More money-printing in a month than QE1, 2, and 3 combined. Talk of negative interest rates. The Fed buying everything, even stocks, via the backdoor. In the back of my mind I fear that they might be able to prop up this evil system indefinitely. It is true that there was a bull market in gold from 2008-2011, but then they found a way to suppress the price for nearly a decade. The goldbugs predicted hyperinflation and the collapse of the dollar in 2010 and they got that wrong.

>>18414912
i want more gold

>>18414969
thats a powerful delusion you have there.

>>18416222
Please don't play tiddlywinks with 24k gold coins.

>>18415948
AGE are cheaper and recognized. Still have 1 oz or gold. Not really worth paying the extra unless you really need that purity. Maples are usually cheaper still. I got my AGE from jm eBay shop for cheaper than their actual site was charging.

>>18416198
Were you the guy that had a hard time selling to places unless they were ASE?

>>18415202
I'm sorry for your loss.

>>18416425
no idea why anyone would go with buffaloes. 90% is more durable, and youre talking about pretty much the most beautiful bullion coin vs the absolute ugliest. Seriously the buffalo looks like a shitty generic round.

>>18416497
>no idea why anyone would go with buffaloes
I do kinda want one though. I already have four gold eagles and three more gold eagle proof sets.

>>18416462
Yes

>>18416497
Buffalos are the only coin which depict a penis.

>>18415813
As far as I know none of the past ATB releases go for much of a premium with the Mint boxes, so probably not happening.

Dem frosties pretty tho

>>18416583

>>18416091
Flatter because of the density. 999 pure vs 900

>>18415675
I was trying to grab one when I made my last purchase and of course they sold out the moment I went to buy. Gonna try to snag one up here soon

>>18416835
More pure huh? Nice. Didn't know ASEs were that based other than the entire world praising them for their design and familiarity.

Silvern is not precious metal. It's in the same tier as copper.

>>18416682
a dubious claim

>>18416873
Can your copper be used in the dental industry...? Or be the main metal in solar panels? Can your copper be an arrow of death to a werewolf? Or is it only as good as a shoe for a hoof? Copper is proper, but silver is not made just to be turned into a hopper....silver is so mundane, it's insane! Silver can be for your teeth, or be used in equipment to search in a deep reef! Copper is good for plumbing and wire...but you will tire when you will learn how easily it is just thrown in the fire! Copper may be used to build a house...but silver is used to power a remote-controlled toy mouse! Copper can be stuffed in a poor girl's blouse...but will she able to arouse any men in the hottest firehouse?

>>18416993

Platinum is like $750/ounce right now.

Im about to sell my motorcycle thats been sitting unused im garage for $2k.

Give me a good reason why I shouldnt buy 2-3 platinum shinies

>>18417416
I see no reason not too, with platinum production dropping due to russia's mines slowing down it will only go up in value.

>>18414978
Am I understanding this right, these coins have a face value of 25 cents? They're much larger than a quarter right?

>>18417416
based move right now. even more based than silver/gold.

>>18415747
It's just begun

TELL ME WHY I SHOULDN'T GO ALL IN ON KENNEDY HALF DOLLARS

>>18417416
>Platinum is like $750/ounce right now.
only for 50 oz paper futures
1oz physical has at least a $100 premium

>>18415202
based retard dago

>>18417526
Kennedy was a gay president

>>18416130
>>18416130
>into a totalitarian/communist freak show?
That's a given at this point. All this masquerade have been done to implement kike's NWO.

>>18416425
I didn’t see any 1 oz AGE that were cheaper. Otherwise I agree with the rest of your post.

>>18416089
As a fellow eurofag I would absolutely find value in old european known silver/gold coins. There is even trade in romanian silver coins so why not in your coins? It all comes down to silver content and a bit of beauty. That's a good price on the gold coin you got there. I think as some point us eurofags need to make a guide sheet to old euro coins for quick refrence.

>>18415668
Try shoving them into your asshole and taking a shit

>>18417416
The only thing that worries me about platinum is that unlike silver it's probably not easily recognizable / unique properties.

Update for you faggots. I expect silver in bulk coin form to be back at the earliest June and this is based on when bar form will be available (JUNE). It was MEANT to be this week from what I heard a month ago. Small gold bullion (not coins) have had some product pushed back a couple of weeks so maybe at the end of this month new product will be available though most product is meant to be available next month (but not coin). Basically, at the moment any coin in quantity is absolutely fucking impossible to get. It is possible to buy non fractional coin a few at a time but you are not getting a roll. Dealers are pushing paper sales and in my thinking this is a sign price is going to tank.

Palladium and Platinum are the real Unobtanium at the moment

Secondary markets are not frozen but volume is shrinking and prices being cut back a little bit. Read into that what you want.

Buying gold and silver from Russia (though technically possible now) is still practically impossible.

>>18418156
You aren't going to deal with platinum coins to come faggots selling bread. Everyone that isn't retarded knows what platinum is.

>>18415191
Ive been thinking: a good move would be to swap bullion into numismatic once the numismatic premium becomes unsopportable to the seller due to immediate demand for liquidity. If cards are played right and you come with bruises but somehow whole you wait for society to recover and the numismatic market to flourish, then switch back to bullion and with the extra cash from the numismatic sale stack more.
am I making sense? kind of like GSR play, but you always stay in gold.

I have 700 oz of silver, yet the great Silver Bullrun with >1000 USD(current PPP) is still decades ahead.

>>18417522
>>18415747
>>18415683
What do these charts mean? Im a brainlet and stacklet.

>>18415087
explain?

>>18415191
>Numismatic will be wiped during a collapse. And I personally think demand will fade as boomers pass away.
A majority of young people today have never even held a coin in their hands. Coin collecting will go the way of old ladies and their china and porcelain. Nobody wants it.

>>18418370
Printer goes BRRRRR

>>18418387
I mean hipsters picked up knitting. You never know what fad will come and go then come back.

>>18418423
Extreme niche collecting will always exist for anything. But the sheer supply in this category (just about every household used to have a coin collector) will be disastrous.

>>18414912
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>>18418470
also call it /PMG/ this stupid thread didnt show in the search unless I typed silver

>>18418059
>us eurofags need to make a guide sheet to old euro coins for quick refrence.
please do. the big list is VERY biased towards the states. as we all can see its quite an international hobby/preoccupation. i mean most of the bigger mints are outside the usa

>>18416873

>>18417416
Last time Platinum was this cheap Queen Victoria rulled British Empire.

Snagged a 2020 Platinum Maple AMA

>>18418783
Will you sell it for half oz gold coin?

>>18414969

jokes aside, assuming we're seeing a great depression-like scenario (very likely) how do you guys deal with the idea of confiscation? Back then, posessing PMs was literally outlawed and they went door to door just taking it from you.

>>18418919
You must be retarded.

>>18418775
So instead of buying 150 ounces of silver eagles I should get 4 oz? I shit about platinum rhodium or palladium. I only buy silver or gold

>>18418948
study history you dumbfuck. That's what happened back then. This situation has propelled a never seen before crisis, we will see its effects only when the lockdown is over. Many small businesses will die, loans will default and joblessness will skyrocket. What the fuck do you think is going to happen? Go back to what it was like before pretending this never happened? What I posted is a very real possibility. The state will not tolerate anyone that wants to be his/her own central bank.

>>18418775
PPLT 10 years

There's clearly a trend, technology is making it easier to mine or something. Aluminum was at one point a PM.

>>18414912
>>18414912
>>18414912

Plz don't hate my noob stack. Just started this month for fun and my mom also gave me her dead brothers 14k gold "student of the month" pin from the 70s. had it tested and its actual gold so i guess it feels good.

>>18418919
Dont post your stack online and boating accidents can happen

>>18419024
There are only 2 places on planet with Platinum ores.

>>18419049
>>18419049
>no batboi from Larry
ngmi

>>18419024
Also compare all gold mined to all Platinum mined.
Platinum price is a joke.

>>18418919
You hide it and wait until it's legal to own again and become even richer than before

>>18419173
But how useful is Platinum compared to Gold and Silver? Gold is very useful but very plentiful. Gold is useful but not in many things but also fairly rare. Platinum might be very rare but unless its used for a ton of things, how much more valuable is it in terms of a store of wealth or investments?

>>18419230
Platinum and its similar metals are tech metals, but their main uses is the chemical and heavy industry sector. Platinum and Palladium are used as catalysts in many different chemical processes.

>>18419024
Crash of demand. Platinum is used in catalytic converters for diesel engine cars. After the European auto makers were caught faking the pollution numbers, diesel is on its way out.

>>18419173
>>18419303
Yet the trend says it's foolish to do anything more than daytrade in it. Even that is probably a gamble that's going to screw you over time.

Will batbois really be worth a lot in the future for its meme status? It has 20k mintage for the frosted coins and 40 or 50k for the regular shiny ones. I dont know how this compares to the other ATB coins.

I have a few bats and wouldnt mind grabbing a roll or two but I prefer to just get more rolls of eagles instead

>>18419389
It's a total meme coin and I already regretting buying one.

>>18419457
Mine came in a plastic airtight case and the coin is scratched. From a big reputable seller.

>>18419493
I ended up paying just under $125 total for mine (taxes and shipping included). For the same price I could have bought 5 silver krugerrands.

>>18419389
If there is already bat shit crazy demand for it now just wait till online dealers run out.

Physical silver is a biz meme.

>>18419563
But there is no demand for it. Everyone still has stock.

>>18419577
As opposed to liquid silver?

>>18419590
Silver gas anon.

13oz Silver
1oz Gold

>>18415202
you better have at least one

>>18419257
Hydrogen revolution will need all the Platinum and Pallad there is.

http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2010/ph240/usui1/

Future of Platinum according to Stanford.

>>18417416
because platinum isnt a monetary metal

>>18419819
Tell that to Platinum £100.

>>18419389
In the future, batbois will be worth roughly 5 oz. of silver. Their value protecting your stack, however, is priceless

>>18419908
Ok yes, but what about meme value?

>>18420023
I'm sure you and your /b/ros can shitpost about them on /biz/ for years to come. It won't make you any more money than what you paid for them, though.

>>18418541
I have a list of euro suppliers of my own, I'll add it to this or the next thread once I had my Easter lamb frens

>>18420038
Bullshit. Batbois will have a big time premium in the coming years because of coronavirus increasing demand and limiting supply, year 2020, and the bat meme

Are you the guy who bought 200 batbois the other day? My condolences, anon.

>>18418541
In France :
- hercules for silver
- napoleon, and génie for gold
They're the main ones

i bought 50 oz of silver before premiums started to get retarded payed like 16 € for silver philarmonicans now they are above 20 € i want more but i feel like thats too expensive what do ?

>>18418059
Well I have biz to thank for this recent obsession. There is indeed much to discover in European coins, after all we have a rich history and, even the diversity of pre-euro era is proof of this.
Dutch coins are very interesting! We have florins, ducats, guilders, pennings, even the dollar equivalent daalders, generations of different royalty to collect.
I'm looking forward to having these in my collection over time and sharing it with PMG.

>>18418059
I'm about to buy Swiss Vreneli, also legal tender in Switzerland

>>18420247
Panic produces temporary bubbles. It's a perfectly reasonable bet to wait for silver prices to deflate as demand from panic buyers abates. But keep in mind it is still a bet and this could be the local low.

As soon as JP Morgan gets 51% of the silver they will control the blockchain and have consensus. Any transactions after that they can just rewrite and mine all the silver to themselves. It will be impossible for anyone else to mine silver rewards and the price will moon.

>>18420397
fuck black people

>>18419389
larry has batoi

>>18418919
>how do you guys deal with the idea of confiscation?
Laugh at it. The US has tons of gold in vaults. It doesn't need our shit. Not sure about other countries though that have empty vaults right now.

>>18420489
boating accidents abound. for pm's, guns, ammo, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b23AjeRBXSU

>>18420247
Sit on your hands unless you can definitely afford it. It's cold storage for wealth not a speculative investment

>>18420397
find me a dealer or mint that will have enough physical for sale to meet demand once the paper price deflates, I’ll wait.

>>18420489
>>18420474
>>18420470
>>18420397
>>18420320
>>18420262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBmqZ5KufKk

>>18416220
The main reason in my opinion is because the Fed only went part of the way there and didn't do some of the more ridiculous things we see today with liquidity and junk bond buying and therefore didn't tip the balance although it caused the everything bubble and slower economic growth. We still have a ways to go even today because we haven't resorted to Japanese measures where the Fed can buy ETFs from the market outright like the S&P500.

>>18414969
Silver is not a good hedge for the scenario you print. You'd need to be in gold. Silver is industry-dependent and only a by-product when mining gold or other metals.

>>18420858
Did silver price fell or something? Silver coins are worth more now than before crash.

>>18420858
>>18421004
The spot price is artificially low, the real price is much higher and reflects the inability of the supply of physical silver to meet the heightened demands for it. People competing to pay 50% premiums for certain coins are not uncommon.

>>18420648
demand is nonlinear in both directions and moves counter to your intuition in crises
if metals deflate AND panic subsides, demand will decrease exponentially + retail hoarders will dump panic buys back on the market

>>18417526
Go for walkers

>>18417781
watch that gold and silver is not even sellable after this unless you have their microchip

Bought my first gold eagles during the panic - I've just been fondling one of them over the past several days, holding it, flipping it within my palm, feeling its heft. Is this a normal reaction to holding gold?

Look at this Chad round

>>18417495
its 5oz fine silver

>>18415741

why are ameriburg buying non state issued precious metals ? at least euros stacking valcambi or argor products have some prestige shit going on. sinshine mint and all those shitty american (bullion) are a shame.

no one would invest in precious metal of shitty denomination. just buy krugerand, leaves, eagles or holyland mmint things. wtf... beaver bullion ....

>>18421301
Sunshine is the best american mint. Maybe pull your head out of your stinky yuro ass before you post here.

>>18421113
Looks like both walking liberties and Kennedy ‘64 rolls go for the same price. I'd rather stack JFKs.

>>18419778
>>18419794
interesting. but hydrogen fuel cell energy use is not been adopted and we've seen no signs of it being put into place

>>18421212
That is not how zodiacs work

>>18421465
Google: (any major country) + hydrogen.
Revolution is just round the corner.

>>18421231
So it's without $55?

>>18421301
People buy silver now are dumbdumbs who let their greed ruin them. Not a big deal since they only have like $5 to their names but still stupid to brag that you are getting ripped off

>>18420112
gather round, fellow eurofags. My supplier list so far goes like this:

https://goldsilver.be/en/
https://www.muenze-berlin.de/
https://www.hollandgold.nl/
https://www.europesilverbullion.com/
https://www.celticgold.eu/en/
https://www.muenzeoesterreich.at/eng/

Feel free to add your own, as there are surely more and probably better ones

>>18419049


tell me more about that button on the far right that look like its canadian mint...

>>18421531
Are you reffering to "premiums"?
You fell for the meme. Price is what you pay, not what is on a chart. Charts are wrong and show price of imaginary silver. If you don't buy now with +$10 'premium' you will buy later at $30 with $1 premium.
USD printing is only pushing price up. Time is working against you.

>>18421502
ah, so hydrogen fuels is still alive?
ok

>>18421531
>People buy silver now are dumbdumbs who let their greed ruin them. Not a big deal since they only have like $5 to their names but still stupid to brag that you are getting ripped off
I meme on your faggotry.

>>18421585
Batery powered cars are a bad joke like those eneegy saving lightbulbs that came and got instantly replaced by led.

>>18418370
It means that the fed is nuking the USD for short term gains. They are pumping this shit up until after the election and then all the damage they are doing now will take effect. The inflation effects will be delayed by a few quarters so by the time SHTF and normies realise how bad it is, Trump will already be reelected. The USD is toast and there is a VERY real chance that within 2 years the world economy wont be pegged to USD.

>>18421301
Because Americans don't need the government to tell them that metal is metal. We're a free country.

>>18421576
You are right it's better to pay double what something is worth because you have a hunch despite all your previous hunches that were proven wrong

>>18421531
Cool, imma love watching your wife and daughter blow me for an oz here soon.

>>18421594
The 'I just wasted $50,000 on premiums and commission so I could take a picture for strangers' stack

>>18421681
>Cool, imma love watching your wife and daughter blow me for a Merc dime here soon.
*ftfy

>>18421676
Things are worth as much as someone will agree to buy and sell.
Can you buy silver at spot? No? Then real price is higher than spot. Basic logic.

>>18421699
how does it feel being broke and posting jealous messages on 4chan? i legitimately would like to know, this is a very strange concept to me. what motivates you?

>>18421163
Yes.

>>18421040
There is this assumption by many that there was hundreds of not millions of people clamoring for gold and silver coins. It's just not the case. I'm written in previous threads about how the stocks sold out and that with many dealers stocks were obliterated with very few orders. To put this in perspective there was about a years sale in a week by a small percentage of customers on (or off) the books. These people will not sell into the market full stop. The secondary market is thin and prices are dropping over the last week. Volume isn't available anywhere. The big purchases have been done and their requirements are satisfied... I don't see demand skyrocketing once PM's are back. It's almost a certainly PM prices will die in the ass to drive out weak hands that bought paper or per-ordered for long delivery.

The PM that is circulating at smaller dealers is in small quantities and are buybacks.

>>18421874
>>18421874
>It's almost a certainly PM prices will die in the ass to drive out weak hands that bought paper or per-ordered for long delivery.
So check it out. You are correct in your observation and assumptions, but I believe there are much larger forces at play here. The retail demand for PM is only a small part of the puzzle. The larger market forces will push the price up for the next year or two before it retracts. Any weak hands who sell early won't really make a difference.

>>18421594
I think TD deserves this Temple. I was really upset to hear of his death – it was shocking.

>>18421699
You speak like a fag and your shits all retarded.

>>18420519
You know, enough boating accidents and the ATF/FBI might just invest in statewide federal diving teams to go find and dredge up your alleged losses

>>18421986
The Chesapeake is a pretty big place if you're not sure exactly where the fell overboard. It gets over 150' deep and you can't see two feet in front of your face.

>>18421557
You forgot givemeyourjewgold(dot)mil

>>18421943
Weak hands don't have infinite money and the dealer says 'no more' at $4MM. I've written about this in previous threads but based on my observations larger dealers are probably under instruction to not sell or restrict sales. To me this doesn't have much to do with mines and mints shut as I know for a fact there are plenty of mines running and mints running. What goes on in Switzerland is basically leased gold getting sent to China so you have to wonder about what gold is really in vaults in the West.

Coins are impossible to get in volume. In this situation I would NOT buy in volume (though I did clear out a local dealer for the hell of it at a ridiculous premium) and I only did it because the volume was so small. I think the high rise will be in the next two or three years but in terms of a real bull run that's more than ten years out.

>>18421955
>I think TD deserves this Temple. I was really upset to hear of his death – it was shocking.
I think of TD a lot. I wish he lived a better life and didn't die the way he did. I will add to this temple each week and continue to post in honor of Terry.

>>18422085
>larger dealers are probably under instruction to not sell or restrict sales.
Yes, but not for the reasons you may think.

>>18421212
I like how they added the detail for her asshole.

>>18421986
wouldnt doubt it. "They" would spend 1 billion dollars just me make sure your not hiding 100 dollars worth of metal bars under your tool shed

>>18422044
is that why its a favourite place for the Kennedys to accident?

>>18422085
small brain post

>>18418919

Sorry officer, I lost all my coins in a boating accident. Damn pirates!

>>18421868
Eagles suck, a "bullion" gold coin made out of 92% coin cold isn't bullion, it's cucked and lacks the luster of actual .999 bullion.

>>18422115
It would be great if you could allude to something you might know. I have a few ideas – not just one as to why it's so but I don't have anything concrete.

Please add to TD Temple every week. I did send him money to try help - I have no idea if it did. His death was a real tragedy.

>>18422177
Have you checked any of the dealers you listed? They almost all have no stock.

>>18421955
I'm not the one bragging about immediately losing 50% of my investment

I don't understand why you guys buy silver. that shits for cutlery and candlesticks. just buy gold and food companies.

>>18422199
Yea, I wanna buy gold eagles but the lower gold content isn't really reflected in the price. It kinda bugs me.

>>18421739
How does it feel that you paid double the real price for a few shitty coins because you panicked?

>>18421732
I always buy silver at less than spot because in three years you will sell your $200 pile to buy a dildo

>>18422199
24k is too soft to make a coin. You can make one but you have to keep them in plastic to keep them from being severely damaged just from handling them. I will never, ever truly hold this in my hand because it will forever be in the assay card.

>>18422273
It still has one ounce of gold in it.

>>18422252
>>18422301
>hahaha ur so dumb and I'm so smart and I must prove it to the world by raiding your board telling you ur dumb
I legit feel bad for people like you

>>18422328
>24k is too soft to make a coin.
It's bullion, not circulating coinage.

>>18418808
No

>>18422347
I don't care that you are dumb and lost money but you shouldn't brag about it and there are many lurkers who want to buy silver for half the price you paid

>>18419699
Could have bought more silver if you didn’t buy that gain coin holding case

Buy before the panic and you can get uncirculated rolls for 3.5 times face

>>18422273
>

>>18422379
Oh, baby. I was buying silver when you were jumping from your father's balls to your mom's unspeakable cave.

I have 70 Ounces of silver, .8 ounces of gold, 5 Eth (I want to get 32), 2500 XLM, and 3000 XRP.
Rate my stack also any advice.

>>18422491
You probably buy proof sets and 'own' a timeshare too

>>18422503
Sell your silver to capture the 100% premium from newbs

>>18422435
You really can't follow these threads. You're a straight up fucking faggot. Most vol was bought by very few people. Overall volume now is very small at elevated prices. Secondary markets are thin with prices sliding. You are a fucking knuckle head. There are people here with tiny stacks and the price halving or doubling will not materially impact them regardless of what price they entered at. There are also people with thousands of oz of silver and gold here and none of those people bought their stack at double spot at entry. Others are buying at elevated prices in small quantities. You are just a fucking retard and this is all too complicated for you. This post is beyond you.

>>18422507
wrong. You even fail at making strawman arguments. Such a sad excuse of a person.

>>18422513
70oz isn't much money even at 100% premium.

>>18421868
Wish I could do this with silver

>>18418919
>they went door to door just taking it from you.
No they did not. They asked you to turn it in.

>>18422517
I just told the guy how to double his money and you are advising people to lose half their money and you are freaking out. Dude, panicking got you into this mess but it won't get you out. I'm not trying to harsh your mellow but grow up and quit losing money

>>18422610
lol you are a retard. Or a woman. Or probably Swedish. This is way above your head.

>>18422537
My co worker bought those about five years later he was in bankruptcy and thought he could sell.haha he didn't listen either

>>18422354
You will damage a 9999+ coin if you take it out to fondle.

>>18422551
I prefer turning my 70 into 140 courtesy of newbs like you making rookie unforced errors

>>18422586
>"Sir, you need to hand over your stack"
>"Sigh...Okay..."

>>18422630
You are the guy bragging about paying a 100% premium

>>18422586
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102#Prosecutions_related_to_Executive_Order_6102
i dont know if they specifically went door to door, but the FBI was running sting operations on jewellry dealers and refineries and they (illegally) violated contracts which were payable in gold

>>18422646
The USA isn't on a gold standard and never will be since they can't print gold . it would be nice if the stimulus was an gold eagle

>>18422634
>forgot picture

>>18422634
plenty of non-poorfags have 24K wedding bands

>>18422115

Enlighten us

>>18415071
Don't buy numismatic coins just buy regular coins and bars. If silver moons you don't know what numismatic coins will do

>>18422209
I sent him a little money as well. The system failed Terry.

I can't provide concrete evidence here. From an outsiders perspective looking at the amount of volume and open interest in the silver and gold futures market it looks like the markets have already imploded and we are seeing a controlled retreat by those with skin left in the game. JP Morgan already won and has literally has a vault and tunnel connected directly to the Fed vault in Manhattan. The people who matter are terrified and doing their best to prolong this for as long as possible. The biggest concern being spoken about seems to be the US election in November. The bankers are trying to delay delay delay and hope that Trump doesn't get re-elected. Short to mid-term the gold and silver markets are almost guaranteed to go up until close to the election. If Trump wins again it could be the reset.

>>18421212
Holy shit. It looks like a piece of art anon. May you please pass the link so this anon may have one too?

>>18422861
Sorry, slightly distracted due to the Holiday here.

The point being everyone involved in the market at higher levels is aware this is happening and see absolutely no reason to sell right now for the lower prices when they know they can profit more in the near future. It could get real ugly real fast. More likely it will be a slow and steady change in price.

>>18422301
>Sam Rogers:
>You are panicking.
>
>John Tuld:
>If you're first out the door, that's not called panicking.

>>18422861
>>18422916

>>18422634
No you wont, it's not made out of butter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxx3k8Hp6K8

>>18422712
>wedding bands
You don't craft wedding bands with 24k, it's way too soft

>>18423091
Youre retarded and dont own any gold my dude

>Required kino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OoLHe-4aNA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTtf5s2HFkA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOw_bHXiA-c

>>18421868

God's money, anon

>>18423147
Dude they're made with 18k gold, just check

You don't use 24k gold for jewelry

>>18423324
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=24k+gold+wedding+band
ok, i checked

>>18423340
t. Broke boi

>>18420782

Thank you for the interesting answer.

>>18419457
Told you guys that buying those stupid ugly bat coins was a waste of time...

>>18421571
Its a monarch precious metals 1 oz button

>>18423340
ur right
u use it for jewry

>>18423608
Looks like this bat didn't get his wings

>>18419699
that gold coin doesnt look like 1 ounce

>>18415087
is it that bad? aren't they prepared to be chemically neutral?

Just ordered a batboi

>>18424041
I want to buy a full roll of these but I ordered just one and it came in a airtight capsule and the coin was scratched and had brush marks

>>18423994

>>18424152
ah, original pic really made it seem a lot smaller, at least to me.

>20k uncirculated batbois @ $178 each
>55.5k bullion batbois at ~$115 each
>total batboi market cap of $9.94M

The batboi market cap is vastly smaller than most shitcoins shilled on /biz/. And due to how silver pricing works, there's essentially massive liquidity in the sell side (for now) so we can buy without slippage.

This is an actual opportunity for /biz/ to buy up all the batbois and then dump them on the normies.

>>18424188
I'm not that poster, I'm just showing the difference in size.

>>18424215
why would normies buy batbois tho

>>18421212
>*shrugs*

>>18424234
Because they'll be sold out. FOMO rules the world.

>>18424041
It's $117 on ebay with a card.

>>18424118
They sell the actual quarters too, ima get a 100bag and surround the 5oz coin

>>18422879
say "ahhhh"

https://www.powercoin.it/en/cit-coin-invest-ag/3959-atlas-titans-3-oz-silver-coin-20-cook-islands-2019.html

>>18424300
I trust jmbullion, ive bought like 1000+oz of silver from them since 2015, especially just to save 7 bucks

>>18424234
>>18424215
someone already batpilled the normies on reddit. its all over silverbugs

>>18424333
You do know they have their own storefront that is usually cheaper than their actual website on there? I bought couple AGE and they were like $60+ cheaper compared to their wire costs on their actual site. They openly rip people off for no reason. The bats come from a well known coin seller.

>>18424452
Whats the link?

>>18424215
Can I interest you in some self-sealing stem bolts?

Krugerrands and sovereigns are tough enough to play with right?

>>18424327
>out of stock
Well, at least I know what it is called now. Thanks anon.

>>18422861
I'm not sure what you meant by implode... shed light please. I know the Chinese have been leasing gold for years and years and having them transformed in Switzerland. Like, 20,000t of gold is gone and it's not coming back. As for Trump winning, it's without doubt he'll win. Reset after his election? That would be pretty strange because it would mean an essentially gold back USD. That would cause the USD and gold to gain strength. Imagine having to pay for an iPhones in the equivalent of gold or even your phone service in the equivalent of gold. This could absolutely destroy the real economy as all debts are going to be very very hard to pay. I suppose getting out of debt would be the key thing to do here.

>>18418919
>what is "buried treasure"

>>18424826
>implode
there is so much counterparty risk that no smart money wants to trade gold paper. someone is going to be left holding the bag in the futures market and no one wants to get stuck, hence the slow retreat we are seeing. no confidence = no trading = slow implosion.

>>18421130
kinda afraid this will happen. the evil of the eternal kike knows no boundaries.

>>18424965
The numbers would indicate that. But, COMEX have increased their inventory massively so... what's the issue?

>>18425096
>The numbers would indicate that. But, COMEX have increased their inventory massively so... what's the issue?
Assume that neither of us has any inside information. Who should we trust? PR releases from COMEX and LBMA, or the actions of the market participants who have stopped / slowed trading? There are a few people higher profile people who have called bullshit on the latest COMEX numbers. I really don't know.

>>18418919
I would burry it under the oak in my garden, and keep it for later

>>18425096

zerohedge is reporting. i'd take this with a grain of salt, but assume the data is mostly correct.

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/bullion-bank-nightmare-lbma-comex-spread-blows-again

weekly gold trading volumes collapsing

>>18425148
To me... it would indicate the gold is gone.

>>18425278
maybe? i don't think the world is short on gold, i just think the people who are in charge of the rigged price discovery are finally fucked and they might not be able to wiggle out of this. trump may have actually done something good.

>>18422273
it's still a ounce of gold, retard. The total weight of the coin is more than an ounce.

>>18425326
In months or years to come we are going to find out how the masters of the universe are dumber than a bag of nails and not as useful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqf6YqR_zgA

>>18422273
Retard

>>18424826
That assumes the US has a significant amount of gold. We don't even know if we even have the gold we're supposed to have at Knox.
Regardless, the world does badly need a reset. All the non-productive "industries" need to be wiped out. All the people who make their fortunes manipulation and speculating in finances, real estate, commodities, and the industries that exist in the way they do only due to government mandate and lobbying should be subjected to the free market and wiped out. End this FIRE economy.

I wonder what happened to all of Gaddafi's gold in Libya.

>>18425567
Great vid, thanks anon

>>18425860
anytime

thought it was pretty interesting

>>18422851
>If silver moons you don't know what numismatic coins will do
likely go up

>>18425804
>We don't even know if we even have the gold we're supposed to have at Knox.
We do. Mnuchin did an audit recently and they resealed the vault. I'm guessing the audit was part of the reset plan which is now already happening.

>>18425339
Junk silver with 50% of silver is also silver, like gold with 18k, but I think a shop will not buy it at the price of silver, because refinery is expensive

>>18426103
AGE are already recognized/liquid. Little advantage for getting buffalos unless you have some purity fetish and maples are usually cheaper if you need the extra 9.

>>18424826
can this be legit?

>>18419457
Will gladly take off your hands to ease your mind

>>18426022
>“I trust the dude from goldman sachs with being honest”
Anon, I am at a loss for words

>>18426022
If that does happen it will be a surprise plus in quantity. USD will be gold backed. It will slowly grind the worlds economies. Of course it will be fake as fuck and if the USA will have to start settling in gold well... they will be bled dry. The most important capital the USA (or any nation has) are its people and over time the USA will completely become a fuckup. In a hardish money system with a county that's mostly non-European and not productive... a huge and slow exodus of people will occur. This sort of system will not affect Germany or China so much. This reset is going to test American metal and we are going to find out how stupidly fucked the economy is. Oh man. USA is never going back to the moon.

>>18426022
Trusting kikels

>>18426276
Hope porn. Don’t buy a single thing written there

>>18418783
was there a minimum purchase of 5oz?

>>18426330
Hope? I hope it's not real, I'm not an American citizen

>>18414912
What does any of this bullshit mean? Is this more pretend metal money crap? Just dig yourself up some more pretend metal money and sell it to the idiots who think they have any value lmao.

>>18426425
>silver is pretend metal money
>but fiat is real money

>>18426292
>Anon, I am at a loss for words
If you are at a loss of words, try some research. You shouldn't be listening to half a story from some anon and then making a judgement. That's retarded.

>>18426276
This is insane. This was literally written by grandma. Ten times the gold? That's ridiculous. US Citizens get looked after??! Inflate the debt away and screw the rest of the world and think that's going to make USA no. 1 and the rest of the stupid world unable to work because of muh USD? No, USD would need a perceived backing. Golds price going up will help with that but only if USD goes up at the same time. So, it has to do with confidence. China and Russia are moving away from USD so who are going to be the bag-holders for this? This melt up will be the nail in the USD ironically.

Comfy thread. Were all going to make it

>>18416425
JM bullions eBay store is closed down ;_;
not that anon but didn't even know they had one.

>>18424720
Yep, they're real money

>>18426500
Those posts are made by trumptards who think he is the second coming of Christ and will save them from the day of reckoning.

>>18422328
You're retarded. I own pure gold coins. They dont damage from handling them LOL. yeah they scratch easier then 92% AGE but you are just retarded.

>>18426472
tell your parents im sorry for your mental disability
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsEwqC7gYk0

>>18425208
what does this mean for my 1 oz of gold

Can someone redpill me on silver maple leaf ? I find them really beautiful, and they're 99.99% (also I'll wait until the premium go down to buy it)

>>18423091
i got a 24k wedding band. STFU. India and China doesn't even deal with gold that is not at least 22k. Only wannabe gangsters rock 10k or 14k to get thickness. Asia is king of Gold and quality is always higher than quantity.

>>18426823
They're a well recognized coin, hard to counterfeit. 2020 ones are resistant to milk spots, if they worry you.

>>18426823
buy Maple Leafs that are post 2018 that have Mint Shield Technology so they wont develop milk spots.

>>18426874
Thailand has good gold too, 24k jewelery. It wears out, but that's part of the appeal, like niggers buying white clothes.

>>18426884

>>18426895

thanks anon

>>18426276
Lolwut. (((They)) have so much invested in the system that they're not going to just roll over and take this. They'd rather let the world tear itself apart than let their system fail without a fight, and they have the power to do so.
A sound dollar (gold-backed) is not enough to save us at this point. Even if the dollar is gold-backed, we are still a net importer paying other countries to produce our goods. This works great when you can print USD to make those purchases, but when you have to give out gold-notes you'll find your vaults empty real quick. When you are using gold notes you'll find that it's hard to fight the rest of the world and keep your people satisfied when they are used to cheap, foreign manufactured goods from clothing to electronic toys.
Gold notes are great when you produce something the world needs/wants, but is terrible when you are a net consumer, in which case infinite paper fiat is the way to go so long as it'll be accepted.

>>18426938
this lowkey makes a lot of sense. Tbh I'm really a neutral party here as I'm neither American, Chinese or a jew. Just wanted to see what were the odds of this not being purely wishful thinking

>>18424234
When quarantine ends and some form of normal commerce resumes, normies will start to notice these bat boi quarters in their change. A small percent of them will look further into it only to discover that we have cornered the bat boi market by then.

>>18426425
The difficulty in mining gold and silver. The fact that every time someone tries to mine gold and finds nothing adds to its value. All the years mining companies struggle to make profits. That value is attached to the rarity of the metal. You are a child. Go play outside.

>>18423340
You can do it but it's not a good idea.

>>18427236

>>18427005
Why do people buy batbois from larry instead of everyone else who is cheaper, many by 10+ dollars

>>18427272
eh, i dont know what dark magic larry uses but his delivery times are scary fast

>>18427306
Larry knows you're gonna order from him before you do. Your orders are on their way when you click the button on ebay.

>>18426425
That's why an iron standard would be good. Same deal with difficulty to mine, but also get something useful.

>>18427306
1st class which is 2 to 3 days. Everyone uses it for things under 1 pound. For over 1 pound its just priority or region boxes. Small flat rate priority boxes are like 8 dollars anywhere or bubble mailers for 7 which fit in the envelopes for 6 dollars, all up to 70 pounds.

Its cheap

>>18421301
Retarded yuropoor, ASEs are struck on Sunshine Mint planchets.

>>18427421
Some cars use the same frame manufacturers, some guns use the same lower receiver manufacturers, some medicines are derived from the same laboratories

My ungodly overpriced and certified gems

>>18427539
Precisely. They're the same thing made by the same people. One just has a walking lady and an eagle on it, and the other has some other design. Still the same metal.

>>18427354
He's probably wondering who in Gods name ordered all those coins and its souly users from 4chan lol. I dont think they will appreciate in value I think it's just a 4chan meme.

I am sticking to regular maple leaf coins personally. I have a valcambi multibar I wasted money on when I first started and a ten ounce bar but I learned fast that one ounce coins are the best overall. I like ordering the package where it's a dollar cheaper because you get them from any assorted year. All the ones I have received have mo milk spots. I even got a few year 2000 ones that are "firework privy" (small picture of fireworks) that are worth more. The premiums on those bring the price to like 38 dollars. I'm waiting to order more because I'm not comfortable with the waiting times in case a company decides to steal my money or cancel my order due to a bull rush if that happens or something. I'm not an expert or particularly genius just sharing my piece.

I did order one special coin from Silver Shield because Chris Duane is awesome and I support him so I needed at least one of his coins. I got it for a steal of a deal the price went up 16 dollars within a week of buying it. Silver Shield is awesome and was worth the extra money. Something meaningful that will appreciate in value. Highly recommend. Pic related is the coin I got it's more beautiful in person and it's from 2013 he only started minting in 2012. Got the insignia on the back of course too. Bought a special capsule for it too for a dollar so it can be a conversation piece one day. I'll pass it down the family one day.

>>18427808
*no milk spots

>>18427711
Definitely JEWels, alright...