/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18400148
>make more than 3x the millennial average in my state
>only 24

>>18400148
>23k in CT

no way. even being a bartender pays more than that

>>18400212
Still depressed

>>18400241

I'd guess that's take home or something. It's also from 2014

>>18400148
This is because 2/3 of them make $0.

>>18400148
What's the median cost of living though? these gay maps never show that. Maybe Idaho is the best place to live factoring that in??? Who knows because it isn't shown.

>>18400148
How thr fuck do you get by with 20k, serious question

>>18400326
By living with your parents

>>18400292
As if the salary of millennials have gone up at all in the past five years

>>18400148
The first thing I saw in the moonlight was the placard with its legend in large, block letters: 'I defiled my race.' Above the placard leered the horribly bloated, purplish face of a young woman, her eyes wide open and bulging, her mouth agape. Finally I could make out the thin, vertical line of rope disappearing into the branches above... There are many thousands of hanging female corpses like that in this city tonight, all wearing identical placards around their necks. They are the White women who were married to or living with Blacks, with Jews, or with other non-White males.

>>18400212
what do you do

>>18400571
I made more than 10x last year. But now I'm unemployed. Denied unemployment 3 times. No stimulus checks. I'm hoping oil hits 20 on Monday :^)

>>18400606
I wasn't asking you, you fucking schizo

>>18400617
Jealousy is unbecoming of you, tranny.

>>18400640
m8 you have literally made nothing in either of your posts coherent,you literally just pasted a bunch of bullshit

>>18400659
I'll explain it to you in terms your pea brain can understand. I've grossed over 10 times the median income in 2019. It's not uncommon for people to make that amount, they're not uneducated brainlets like yourself. Faggot

>>18400571
Im an IT Business Analyst

How do you make money when there's no jobs out there?
Imagine getting a degree in something useful like pharmacy or something and then being unable to get a job and then working at the local grocery store. How long can you do that while sticking to a shitty wage?
I doubt wages will go up for millennials. This is the end of civilization.

>>18400241
Maybe full time.
Most people are hired for 35 hours a week do they get no benefits and a lower salary.

>>18400675
But he asked what that a non does, which you did not answer

>>18400712
I'm still in the process of finding a degree, how did you get into that? Is it hard?

>>18400148
Young person in the US checking in. Can confirm the majority of the people my age that I know are a wreck. Next to no financial literacy. Only stocks are given by company. Savings are only enough for 1-2 months rent if they gave savings at all. If they are making any amount of money most of them blow it on dumb shit. Most are paycheck to paycheck though because the majority of us were told to go to college and we will magically have a good paying jobs on the other end. As a result most of us got meme degrees that are little more than wall decoration. When I was in college around 2009 people were working for MLMs just to have a line on their resume.

I was one of the dumbasses who thought a psych degree would be worth my time and I have spent the last almost decade trying to do something worth my time with it. I have since gotten two more certifications and am teaching myself a useful skill outside of college because I no longer get any financial aid. I personally make a bit under 50,000 a year, am renting my parents second house for 500 under market value, putting my partner though (a relatively cheap) private school, and as of about a week ago supporting two other family members who lost their job. Things are fucking tight but I will be just fine. Especially once my partner is out of school assuming the US hasn’t imploded into an anarcho capitalist theocracy.

Everyone else I know give it take 3 or 4 people are fucked though. For reference I live in a big city with lots of wagie jobs

>>18400804
If it makes you feel any better no degree can help anyone these days. Even if you had the most useful degree aside from medicine, CS, then you'd still need a list of internships to get a job at the end and even so you might get rekt because the indians have more internships than you.
No degree was going to save you.

>>18400804
>young person
how old are you

>>18400836
Pajeets forge that shit, many don't even go to university. They just pay some govt official to forge their transcript, and there's no way to verify it

>>18400764
I majored in MIS and got an internship with my college doing helpdesk stuff, got promoted while in school. Then during mysecond to last semester I started sending out application to any IT, Software, Engineering, Sysadmin etc position. Got a lot of interest because of my internship and high grades and picked the job that would pay me the most. I work with a lot of SQL and Excel, the work is interesting but I didnt get my degree out of passion, I knew that IT and Software were big money makers.

>>18400880
>MIS

how many years did it take you and where did you go

>>18400836
Yeah I gave up on the college system halfway through once I realized what a shit show it is. Still graduated, but completely changed how I thought about what I wanted in life. I graduated early enough in the decade where I would have had a chance if I knew how to actually make money that young, but there’s no way I’m going to a university now.

>>18400894
6 years cause I fucked around in my younger years and also worked 30-40 hours a week during college. I dont want to mention exactly where I went but it was a run of the mill state college with an above average business program (MIS is in the business program for most degree programs)

>>18400864
Older 20’s. Still do dumb shit but old enough to know it’s dumb.

>>18400917
Got any advice for some young faggot trying to get a two year degree? I don't need to make big boy dollars just enough to get by. Any degrees or anything that really don't require a lot of shit to know?

>>18400836
Can confirm. Laughed at retarded choices of others while working on a practical degree choice. Now in a dying field with little job security. Also, disproportionate number of foreigners... have to translate a coworker's heavy indian accent into intelligible English on a regular basis

>>18400938
If you arent sure what you want to do you should do community college for that degree, much cheaper. You could also look into trade certifications that the community college would offer, they make good money and dont require more than high school level of education.

If we give more tax cuts to the billionaires and boomers maybe millennial wages will go up right?
I wonder what zoomer wages look like.
This will never get better at this rate.
Can you escape this situation by starting a company? Most entrepreneurs are gen X with experience in business so I don't think so.

>>18400148
Millennials include the ever increasing number of minorities, as well people in there 20s typically don't make a lot of money. As millennials age to their 30s and gain skills their income will increase. This is like being surprised teenagers don't make a lot of money... I am 34 and a millennial but 30s is not the avg age of this group.

>>18400148
>Are young people in the US really that poor?
YES
burger perpetuate the illusion of being a first world country via debt.
Any mutt that disagrees is fuckin delusional

>>18400880
so 70k? good job, but recognize that your parents were probably making way more than that, back when it had double the purchasing power

>>18400148

>2014

At the time, a lot of millennials were still in college and working part-time at Target, if at all.

>>18400956
Why pay for a degree in something you can learn online for free? Obviously poor shit streeters are going to take your jobs.

>>18400996
>>18401000
>>18401013
>>18401016
>millennial sare fucked because x, y, z

is nobody going to mention gen z

>>18400996
No. You show your potential to make money in your 20s. By your 30s it's too late.

>>18401000
No country in the world has good wages for people in their 20s

>>18400148
>mfw I make 81k in Louisiana as a 23 year old

>>18400148
>make more in dividends than the median for my state

>>18401055
nope
>>18401095
Its called payroll taxes btw. the payroll taxes in all 1st world nations (i.e not the US) are high as these taxes include things such as healthcare.
Add in your healthcare costs & you have a lower wage with limited cover.
Want any more rebuttals?
You won't like them, promise
kek, third worlders

They're just all temporarily embarrassed millionaires so actually they are all rich.

>>18400326
You can't. Period. Corporations can't be trusted to pay their employees.

>>18400148
Yes.
As a matter of fact, many young people would kill to get a job that pays like that.
We all live on debt and government handouts anon.
Even the so-called heroes of america called the military.

Feels good to make 3x more than average in California. Mechanical engineer here.

>>18401356
That's nice.
Everyone can't be mechanical engineers though.
Also, LOL, california.

There's no way that's the median for my age group. I was making $35K/y and I consider that an absolute failure and waste of my life up until now. I'm currently 26.

Would be making over 50K if I just finished my initial degree path

>>18400148
Jesus Christ, I'm a millennial and I'm pushing 58k and feel poor as fuck. I didn't know the average was so much worse then me.

>>18400324
Depends on where in Idaho, Job opportunities are also lacking so it's probably a wash overall.

>>18400326
Frugality, dad and brother get by on <12k a year before taxes but COL is low and that's literally all it covers.

Biochem major highest paying job was 13 an hour sample management on call so like 4 hours a week no benefits or retirment etc

Current job 11 an hour. More work hours and a bit more relevant to it field.

Going back to school again because college degrees are needed for everything. Was thinking about whole foods for 17 an hour but afraid of virus

>>18401095
I think that's less of an issue compared to what it costs to enter the job market.
For example, in a lot of countries companies will still hire and train you as an apprentice straight out of high school (this includes first world countries in Europe). In the US, sometimes even trade school costs a decent chunk of money.

>>18400880
SQL and Excel. What the fuck im jealous. That's retard shit and here I am with a CCNA and Net+ making 40k. Fuck this gay earth.

>>18401618
College degrees are almost useless for the most part anon.
There are no jobs for you after you get out of college.
Only debt and a job market filled with people with more experience and more connections then you.

>>18400712
>business analyst

don't you guys only make like 65k lmao

>>18400391
Based

>>18400148
Yes. On top of having massive student auto loan and credit card debt and paying inflated rents. America is fucked

Millennials are apathetic because they see that the system is extremely fucking stupid and flawed. An individual can still be successful, but I believe it is less common of a motivation, basically because the system is fucking stupid. People here just take Hitler pills to cope instead. I understand the mindset, I just don't care. My degree is going to cost me 28,000-30,000 with a combined interest at 4%.

My question is to fucking old people... You fuckers.. you buy a house for $120,000 dollars right? Then you need to go buy your FORD SUPER FUCKTARD DUTY XL WITH TECHNOLOGY PACKAGE ONLY FOR $50,000 MSRP?

Just.. logically.. you slave all day, but maybe you lost one of your fucking testicles at birth or some shit like I did and think that a car payment cost 650 dollars with insurance (before 50 dollar gas tanks) and a house costing 1,100 makes sense..

Or that fucking eggs have doubled in price every 5 years. Now decent steak cost 14.50 a pound at the grocery store. Or that for some weird fucking reason DURING A HELLSTORM PANDEMIC THE PRICE OF GAS GOES DOWN?! Wouldn't there be a strangle on the supply lines? No? That's cool. I don't know what the fuck I was born into at this point, I have no clue. It's really fucking gay though and I want a different time line.

>>18400804
>my partner

>>18401204
How much money do you need invested to make that much off dividends?

>>18400326
>25
>Don't own a house
>Work a minimum wage job
>Live with my cousin who's too nice and has me paying dirt cheap for rent
>No friends
>Socially awkward
>Flunked out of community college
>No desire to move up in the company
>Too afraid to go look for another job
>Doomed to be wage slave
If it weren't for the objective fact that I'm afraid of death, I would have killed myself a long time ago. If this is all there is to life, than I'd very much rather be dead than have to work several more years like this

>>18402011
>Or that for some weird fucking reason DURING A HELLSTORM PANDEMIC THE PRICE OF GAS GOES DOWN?!

I mean if you don't understand why this happened you're fucking stupid. Oil war between Russian and Saudi Arabia meant that both were producing at high levels when demand wasn't there. High supply with low demand would equal rock bottom prices

>>18402073
Not to mention the fact that oil doesn't keep forever and with a significant majority of Americans staying in quarantine there is a lot less gasoline consumption right now. Honestly I'm surprised it isn't less than $2.50/gal right now

>>18402073
They are trying to squash the dollar anon.
They will no longer take american monopoly money adn will only take gold.

I make around 4x median according to this chart. Started driving for amazon in my spare time recently, have delivered some junk into the poorer parts of my metro area, and now i can totally believe that median is that low. Its surreal seeing people live close to animal existences in the 120 year old homes of a formerly productive neighborhood from the industrial era of america. We are probably entering a very dark period in the west, not all of us will make it. Good luck frens.

>>18402161
Got any pics?

>>18402053
Around $400,000-500,000. He is either lying or he's old. You shouldn't look at dividends as a means of passive income, nor the real-estate you buy. They are both means of compounding wealth.

It's really not that hard to make that much money if you're a go-getter. Just takes time/dedication. Statistically, it's the guys in their 30's really finding wealth. Learn to enjoy the journey of your 20's and also start fucking saving early.

Get 10,000 dollars networth (including debt) before you even think about starting an investment portfolio.

When you start realizing the slow, but powerful growth of accounts/investing it will hurt you to spend money. It should hurt to spend fucking money, don't care what anyone else tells you.

>>18401724
This post is cope. There are so many degrees you can get that are worth it with tons of Universities offering fast-track employment programs.

>>18400148
This can't be accurate. What age group do they consider millennial. I'm making more than triple the median in my state and that doesn't include crypto gains.

>>18402073
It happens in every decline. Fuck it, dollar milkshake theory all day. This market still has another 15-20 years before NWO crypto-currency.

>>18402197
>Get 10,000 dollars networth (including debt)
Is this part even possible? You need to take out a loan to do a anything in America. Everything is so expensive you have to be in perpetual debt

>>18402209
35,000 now. Some more people graduated. I am still in college, but will be starting around 50,000-65,000 from what other uni-grads told me.

>>18402181
Nah, i was already getting ready to pussy out as it was, doing ghetto photography was the last thing on my mind. Nothing you cant see on google street view anyway.

>>18402254
Average =/= median

>>18400148

Probably includes college students and unemployed. It's meaningless. Certainly isn't limited to full-time workers.

>>18402252
Yeah. Just have rich parents lol

>>18402252
You know, a big problem is nobody wants to work for shit now. To me, that is even more motivating. But, nobody wants to drive a slightly used Toyato for a 3rd of the cost of our Mexican built Mercedes/Audi's. I don't really go telling people their "European car" wasn't actually built in Wolfsburg, but in Mexico.

I don't know, an apartment that's 800 a month after utilities in a midsized city, a 300 dollar car payment and some extra stuff shouldn't cost you more than 2,000-2,200 a month. Really, you should be able to park away at least a grand every month, but people need to buy NEW cars and GIANT apartments.
I got shit figured out I guess, but to me it all seems really simple to make it up into at least the upper 20% of the income bracket.

>>18400880
>MIS
UofA? I did the same thing and I'm in the same boat as you

>>18402197
>>18402053
>$400,000 - $500,000
Normally this is the correct answer. It is significantly less than that in this market but there is a high risk of cuts. However there are a number of stocks out there that don't plan to cut this quarter and were oversold as of 3 weeks ago.

>>18402297
No.
They never include college students, and people who simply gave up looking for work, and recently out of work people.
Just like those job things.

>>18402392
>You know, a big problem is nobody wants to work for shit now.

More then a few people not only want to work, but are working.
Your typical bullshit pull yourself up by your boot straps muh protect the broken status quo nonsense is a tired trite screed.

>>18402408
How'd you do it and any advice?

>>18402392
>

>>18402392
Ive got a fairly new car, a work truck, and a $1500 honda civic. Shit box civic is by far the most relaxing to drive. It has broken door locks so i just leave it empty and unlocked wherever i take it. It's rusty and has a zillion miles on it, so if someoby scrapes or dents it i dont give a damn. I always keep a shitbox in hand, only drawback is that it could shit the bed while im driving, so never take on long trips.

>>18402392
if you actually looked at the image you would realize that most people make less than 2000-2200 a month and can't put a grand away every month though?

>>18402442
"Free market economics relies on rational consumers making rational decisions".
You're not wrong. Raising minimum wage is a good idea, but man I just have a real hard time standing behind killary the communist grandma.
I want a good democratic candidate, because I also think fucking drug sentencing in this country is a God damn joke and most people just sit on the sidelines and watch this shit happen.
"Oh yeah sorry dude, you got caught with cocaine in college. Good luck getting employed for the next ten years".
It's fucking bullshit and the more money I start making the more I realize how insane that wage is.

>>18400148
>2014

>>18402392
>$2000 a month
And there's the problem. I'd be fucking broke after the first payment and have no means of paying for the next month. Get real, man. People who are anywhere below the "scraping by" threshold would never be able to afford something like that.

>>18402475
I drive a 2005 camry with only 172k miles on it.

Motherfucker has a long way to go before it shits the been. My consoooomer mom and sister keep telling me to buy a new car, but I just tell them to fuck off lol

>>18402016
exactly my thoughts

>>18402055
its not the end of the world to have failed community college, jesus christ dude just pick your sack up and try again

it sounds like you didn't want it bad enough with the shit attitude you have
the world isn't over because you fuck up a few times, i make 21/hr and just had a job offer that started at 32/hr and went to 40/hr after 2 years

guess what I failed to get the job because I failed the skills test, doesn't mean I won't try again if the opportunity arises

>>18402554
What field??

>>18402392
>he thinks most people make $17 an hour
>people with 4 year degrees are making $9 down south
>$15 an hour in CA or NY if they're lucky

boomers man

>>18402508
so don't do drugs you junkie, pathetic excuse of a man

>>18402569
multi-craft maintenance technician

>>18402525
See the problem is that you can climb the ladder. There is still opportunity for you, fuck go be an electrician and learn to fix water heaters for 90,000 a year.
Really I don't trust just your opinion as to the logical reasoning behind if we should raise it and sadly, I don't trust any other politician to explain it either.

>>18402446
Look at midstream oil and gas and other sectors where corporate revenue isn't dependent on consumers but rather on long term fixed contracts. Oil tanker stocks are poised to have a record quarter for example due to their ability to to take advantage of long term charters as well as high spot prices.
Pipelines are not affected by viruses, they are like toll roads for commodities and make money in nearly any market condition.

Some companies have been so autistic about their dividend that they wouldn't dare cut it now, they will borrow the money if they must. You might think XOM and CVX are oil companies but after over 37 consecutive years of divvy increases their shareholders simply view them as ATM machines. Look into MLPs but understand the tax implications first. Companies that do lots of business with the gov't on an ongoing basis is another good choice.

>barely graduate high school
>too stupid for college
>Wageslave at small business
>after 6 years make like $1 more an hour than the 17 year old bagging groceries
>realize i have to make a change

>too stupid for college, plus people with degrees can't find job so fuck that, even if I squeezed on by its pointless
>decide ill learn a trade, would be great to get paid to learn a trade
>okay how do i do this? after some research I can either:
>A) pay a school 30k to teach me
>B) learn on my own and have a small business hire and train me even further
C) kill myself

I don't know what to do but I'm sick of making $300 a week. I'm incapable of a degree and I don't want to spend 30k to find out im bad at welding, or being a carpenter isn't for me

what the fuck, why can't i walk into a grocery store with a nice suit, ask to speak to the manager, give them a firm handshake and make a living wage? i dont get it

but seriously, why do I have to pay thousands of thousands dollars for a shot at making it?

>>18400148
>IT Auditor at big 4 accounting firm
>Clear over 60K
>Hate my life and want an hero

>>18402669
community college retard, it's not 30k

why the fuck would you go to a private trade school
https://www.jobcorps.gov/ if you're still 24

>>18402669
Based retard, apply for scholarships and go to community college. The absolute state of faggots. Or just join the military.

>>18402691
community college is only good for two years. after that the next two years cost bank
>$8,000 for two years at community college
>$22,000 for two years at state school

give or take its $25k-30k for a bachelors. also I'm 25 so looks like the government should throw me in the trash

desu most jobs don't even hire at full time anymore

>>18402718
I just told you I'm not smart. Smarties with degrees can't find work, so what hope do I have? I'm not taking on 10k,20k,30k+ in debt, and waste 4 years of my time, just so I can have a worthless degree like my friends

>>18402756
You don't have to be smart to join the military

>>18402756
Also idk how dumb you are, but ik a lot of tards that slaughter community college, from what I hear, it's literally easier than HS.

>>18402653
FYI 37, learned2code in HS, dropped out of college. Make $130k/year now, employer is like the companies I described and almost 100% immune to this happening. First came to /b/ in 2006.

>>18402738
holy fuck retard there are things called associate degrees

2 year degrees exist, certs are there, etc
you don't need a bachelors to do better than what you are. sucks you can't do jobcorps but you are legitimately retarded, and you're 25? Get a job at a warehouse or something

>>18402587
Damn, you people really are far removed from society. I forgot we are just supposed to kill all the people who are taking drugs that are totally not funnelled into the US at all for being "untermenche". Really make sure that they just can't do shit with their lives. Oh yeah and that 18 year old that slept with a 15 year old should also face a mandatory sentence of 5 years, because fuck him.

>>18402569
Anyone can climb income bracket. I don't disagree, but also yes I would say most Americans can manage to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" it's just harder without the manufacturing base being here since we exported to for Chinese slave labor.
By the way, your precious Democrats are cool with Chinese slavery, yet you support them for raising your wage and hate Trump for touting a hard on China stance.

Sincerely, go fuck yourselves.

>>18400148
The real kicker?
If you become self sufficient and don't rent, you don't even need 20k or a full time job.

>>18402787
2 year degrees are worthless lol 100% worthless. 5 of my friends can't find jobs with 4 year degrees, why on earth would a 2 year degree be any different? associates degrees are nice when you're applying to work at wal-mart or retailshitcity but thats it. they basically guarantee you minimum wage employment.

find me an associates degree, not in the medical field, that GUARANTEES 40k+ a year and Ill do it. You won't be able to find one.

>>18402669
>too stupid for college
lolno

>>18402842
Anon, you do realize that those degrees are in various fields correct?
That 4 year degrees in random bullshit means nothing.

>>18402768
>join military reserves
>go through basic training
>get assigned a shitty job
>have to go to drill once a month
>do this for 4 years
>get out of the military

now what? that's literally the circumstance for two people I know. They joined, learned a job that civilians don't typically do, like water purification, and now they are completely lost. the military didn't do shit for them? i don't understand, i don't want a career in the military and i don't want to go to war, so why would I join??

>>18402842
Anything in the trades. If you're looking for a decent salary, trades. Really I am in college, but I see these Chad fucking linemen working and making like 85,000 grand a year to keep the lights on.
Be smart about it. Do you live in a city? That's where all the money is. You might need to move.

>>18402877
>>18402889
name specific 2-year degrees that guarantee 40k+ a year. trade schools aren't degrees. I don't want to pay 30k to learn a trade i hate or fail at lol

>>18402842
associates in business, open a dive bar.

>>18402842
Oracle Certified Professional
Easy ~90k/year

>>18402903
electronics
a decent it program

there you go retard I have a two year degree in electromechanical engineering and I had an offer for a job that paid 40/hr

>>18402887
I will keep you alive. Everyone in this thread is retarded. Going to college during a recession is throwing your fucking money away unless you're in the top 1% of graduates, and if you were, you wouldn't be here. Trades will be the first industry to get absolutely FUCKED, so thats out.

Get in the military and at least you'll have food and a few years to make a decent paln.

>>18402887
Would you rather be a suicidal broke nigga or have a stable job and benefits. Compared to what you have rn the military is paradise. Also, it's not like they give you a random fucking job, study for the asvab and get one of the many tolerable cushy jobs that will never see combat.

>>18402907
>just get lucky
>>18402916
googled it, so i have to get some sort of IT degree? and then get oracle certified? i don't get it
>>18402920
vague as fuck, "it" and "electronics" is not specific enough. when i search "electromechanical engineering associates programs" nothing comes up

>>18402964
>Trades will be the first industry to get absolutely FUCKED
Explain

>>18402975
I graduated in 2009. Construction got absolutely fucking hammered. Developers shit their pants in times like this. Nobody is going to spending money.

>>18402903
Starting at 40k? Some shit you do need to climb ladder with. That being said, I would can list quickly medical, IT, management, various business degrees, insurance, aircraft mechanic, aircraft directors, pharmacy tech, lab technician, trades (big salary from an associate's here), chef, engineering, etc.
Seriously and those are all laid out easy paths. There's no risk there.

>>18402972
i'm done spelling shit out for a mouth breathing retard like you, take care

>>18402972
>i don't get it
And you never will.

>>18403018
you didn't spell anything out. you have gave me vague job descriptions and when I googled your degree nothing came up

what did i do wrong?

>>18403006
I have severe anxiety so there is no way I can perform in the medical field in any capacity. I have problem with basic ass paperwork at my current job, no way can I do anything in the medical field

as for trades I'm terrible with my hands so even though I want to learn them I don't want to spend big bucks to realize im no good with trades. as for IT, aren't two year degrees worthless? aren't computer science majors having trouble finding work? even if I got a 2 year degree in network administration, thats like what? $12? an hour?

"business" degrees is just so vague. Do i start my own business? apply to random places to be in management? what exactly do i do? what are they good for?

>>18400836
I have a job lined up after I graduate in June, never did any internships or networking, just coming from a good school with a good profolio
I'm an architecture student
Same for a couple friends I know in law school
What you're describing seems to be a primarily stem thing, there are no pajeets to compete with here

>>18400326
2-3 other roommates and a cheap 2-3 bedroom apartment, never taking time off, paycheck to paycheck

>30 yo
>122k a year
>Thinking to make a game to supplement income

>Michigan: less than 20k a year
I thought making 50k as a new college graduate was bad but this puts it in perspective. It’s a job in software too so I’m still maintaining the income while working from home and daddy trump’s package is going to come with the money shot on my bank account. Hail yeah

>>18403221
why are you doing a software job for minimum wage when you could be pushing carts for the same or even more money? does it look good on a resume? can you find a better job? is it a good stepping stone job??

I love this coin
How could you not?
Someone please try and FUD before I throw all my trumpbux at it

>mid 20s
>make a bit over $200k
>not happy and never spend money

I don't think I could live on less than 40k. Even when I was 18, I was still making 45k. I make 70k now and feel I'm in poverty. I'm only able to save about 20% of my income.

>>18400326

Live with a gf that also makes 20k so at least your rent and utilities are split.

>>18400148
>32 years old
>20k a year
>its whatever

>>18401095
Wrong.
>be me
>live in eastern europe
>get a uni degree in comp sci (free)
>start working at last year of uni as junior software automation engineer
>2 years in, make 4 times the median wage in the country

>>18402108
>$2.50/gal
Where TF do you live? It's 1.55 here

>>18403474
i am an established artist and will draw whatever porn you need for a small price mate

>>18400212
Based on what?

>>18403698
Its still 3 dollars in commiefornia. And the governor has tried 3 times in less than 6 months to raise the fuel tax. Theyll just keep spamming until it passes.

Fuck this miserable failed shithole

Feels good to be on track to make twice the median here in Texas as a welder and without having to work too much overtime. OT opportunities got cut this and next week for me however, and I'll need to make it up if I hope to hit 45k this year.

>>18402586
Boomers all share this collective dilusion that young people make just as much now as they did back in the day. We just somehow lose it by spending all our money on avacado toast or something.

>>18403680
>>18403105
>works on my machine :3
I'm sure it works on your machine but it doesn't work for anybody else

>>18400326
Public housing.

>>18401742
That's what he said in the first place, brainlet.

>>18400148
im a millennial and make 72k a year plus bonus (probably 5-10k)
had no idea I was doing well kek

>>18401742
>only
try being a European

>>18400715
Don't a lot of pharmacists work in grocery stores?

>>18402842
I got an associate degree in information systems aka computers.

During that time I acquired through self study, my A+, Net+, Sec+, MCSE, CCNA and then CCNP. I fell into a networking job that pays 50k in rural upstate New York. If I went to work in the city I’d be making close to 3 figures with my associate degree. If you are going to get a associate better get some Certs to back it up for high paying job.

>>18400148
Yes. And the tendency is that it worsens. You are expected to buy into babyboomer's inflated assets due to unlimited worldwide QE. At the same time you receive no interest on savings and have to pay insane prices for housing. That no economic consolidation could take place in 2008 and also no now will have to be paid by the younger generation for decades .

>>18400148
I make 2.5 times the median for my state. Im 30.

>2.63x my state at 28
Not good enough.

I make twice the median for my state and I'm 30. The sad thing is I'm only slightly irritated by this. I've got friends who do way worse than me.

>>18400148
I could believe that if it factors in all of the niggers and white trash that literally make $0

>>18400148
Is that before taxes? What would 20k be after taxes in US?

>>18400148
>28
>make 38k a year after taxes
>took trade pill
>just started this career.
>still have a job
>40k in savings
>no hobbies besides reading and riding an old Harley I bought
>buy silver with little extra

I am better off than most thank the lord; that said I want a wife and kids and land. I also don’t think Oklahoma is in it for me long term. If any anons are struggling look into a career in power lines. It is long days and outside and if you contract instead of union (I do contracting) you’ll be around a rough crowd. That said they hire and the job will stay hopefully.

>5x my state
>at least 4x the highest median state
>25

thanks for making me feel way better about myself OP

>>18400148
MOST young people are poorer than older people everywhere. Wouldn't it be abnormal if that wasn't the case?

I was born into wealth, my rent and car are paid for every month. Before the pandemic I would routinely travel around Europe attending music festivals and having drugged up orgies with Eastern European teenagers.

Life ain't all that bad guys, just ask your parents for support

>>18407306
>that said I want a wife and kids and land.
We are victims of the time my friend. They don't anymore, it's all about the show.

t. PhD who figured out the scope of the world and realized the charade going on.

>>18407306

For God's sake don't leave Oklahoma. You have no idea how good the job market and life is there until you move somewhere else and get just'd.

-t former Tulsan

>>18402975
Like the other guy said, nothing is being built. Well, almost nothing. Businesses don’t want to expand in an economic crisis, not to mention an ongoing health crisis.
Architects are fucked too but the people doing the groundwork are shit out of luck for at least a couple more months if not the rest of the year.

>>18400148
the sad part of all this is.. it doesnt matter.

why?

the pride of the one that KNOWS will keep him from sharing.
the pride of the dumb that KNOWS NOT wil keep him from learning.

in short, we all fucked, you cant teach anyone but yourself so go out and have a fun while you can.

>>18400804
why you supporting a vagina? just to bang it? once you done paying for her skool she gonna leave you anyway

Why do Americans always report their gross annual income, and not their net one? It doesn't tell me jack shit. Tell me how much you have left after paying your taxes, health insurance, social contributions, etc., then get back to me.

>>18402669
>Too stupid for college
Anon you're under the mistaken impression that you have to go for a useful degree. Employers are looking for the piece of paper not for skills but out of the crab mentality. They don't want to put people who "didn't do their time" in positions of power. Niggers are capable of getting college degrees, unless you're a literal retard you can do it.

>>18408251
Because unlike Europeans unless you live in a socialist shithole like california your taxes take off around 20-30% and it isn't that hard estimating how much they have left over.

>>18400148
The answer is no, because a lot of people work off the books

>>18400326
I do it
>Rent: $830
>Utilities: $100
>Gas and Insurance: $170
that leaves $600 a month to spend on whatever comes out to $20000 a year
you do it by living debt free dummy

>>18400148
this is from 2014, recession was still happening then. My guess is that most of those numbers could be bumped up by 5 or 10k now

t. Missourian making $30k per year

>>18400326

Live with family. My wasteful boomer parents were unfortunately part of the "kick your kid out at 18" mind. I had to lie to them saying I was going to college while instead working part time jobs and building work experience. Fast forward 10 years from the 2008 crisis and they've run up so much debt that they can't live without me. So I pay the living expenses and can build savings debt free.

Thank you peter schiff

>>18400326
Kneepads

>>18409305
same here

TEXAS

people need to stop spending money even that 5 bucks you spend to buy yourself a treat adds up

simple control

>28
>engineer
>married, combined just over $100k in HCOL area
>manage boomers

Jesus 9/10 of boomers are virtually worthless, they rely on the one knowledgeable person in the group while playing sudoku or reading the news. Basically boomers just sit around waiting to collect their pension checks in 2-5years. I'd much rather have a millennial with no knowledge but has ambition than worthless boomers.

>>18410768
>but has ambition
so you can suck him dry of life energy
eat shit, Team Lead

>>18400148
All the ones that don’t work are bringing our averages down

>>18410768
>old people are old
Thanks for the breaking news, Walter Cronkite.

Can I ask you to put that brain cell of yours into overdrive?
Lets for a minute imagine that old man still had enough mental power in him to strive to advance at workplace. Why would he do that few years before retirement.
Like, if i knew that working hard at my job served me no longterm purpose, I'd just slack all day too. But this is an abstract concept for you

>>18403831
based

>>18400148
Lol wut these are all like minimum wage figures