/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18391905
>should I do if I want to be rich?
never gonna make it

>>18391919
why

>>18391905
>tried programming many times but I can't stay consistent and I don't know if I like it
like many things, you have you have to apply it to some useful purpose, preferably something you are genuinely interested in or care about

i dont know you, but ss for myself, if i were your age, i would study robotics, automation, machine control, and the electronics, hardware, software tech that supports it. there is programming involved, but at least its for a cool and interesting application
will be in demand and valuable

>>18391905
start more reading biz thread

>I am graduating high school in 1 month (I don't live in US)
You must be over 18 to post in this site

>what should I do if I want to be rich?
Ya aint gonna make it

>university is free in my country btw
Means everybody is poor then?

>I tried programming many times but I can't stay consistent and I don't know if I like it
We are not your life coaches kid, but I guess some anons would gladly get your birthday gift savings to tell you what to do with your life

SAGE & REPORT

>>18391957
>preferably something you are genuinely interested in or care about
I have nothing like that
>robotics, automation, machine control, and the electronics, hardware, software tech
in my country only programmists make money
>>18391975
>You must be over 18 to post in this site
I am 19 actually lol, why do you think that I'm below 18?

bump

help

>>18391975
If you don't have any value to add just shut the fuck up you overweight neckbeard virgin you smell like vinegar

bbb

>>18392034
>find something you are genuinely interested in or care about
>I have nothing like that
you better fucking find it or forget about it. stay in your moms basement then

bbump

>>18391905
Get a free medical school education and then immigrate to the US through the international match like all of the other Indians. then you can bull your way through internal medicine and do a GI fellowship to make 500k/year like every other Indian or Arab.

Or you could just invest in crypto.

>>18391905
Become an anesthesiologist.
Easy job, half a million per year.

>>18393814
no social life for the next 8 years of your life

>>18393831
That’s what it takes. If it wasn’t med school, it’d be your own business sucking up your time. The key idea is the same, burn hard as fuck now when you are young.

>>18391905
forcing yourself to learn programming (or anything) when it's uninteresting is a great way to live a frustrating and resentful life. If you want to find something useful to do with your life that is also gratifying to you try this.

1. Find a small problem you can fix in your life or in the lives of someone you know. Fix the problem.

2. Did you feel satisfied after step 1? If yes, find a similar problem and fix it, and repeat until the answer is no. If the answer is no, go back to step 1.

The reason this works is because you are getting down to the bottom of what money is supposed to represent, which is value which you provide for others. If you learn to provide value for other people by fixing problems, you will have a way of making a living. If you don't care about the value itself and only about how that value manifests itself (as money), you will be chasing the wind.

>>18393831
>>>18393863
He'll be under 30 when he's done. 30 has been the new 20 for a while. Social life when your pulling down good money with a condo or house. A good vehicle. Good times

>>18391905
You will never get rich from a wage job. Upper middle class at the absolute best. Starting a bussines is your best bet, but it is an extremely demanding path.

>>18392034
>over 18
Dumbass. Most seniors are 18 by the time they only have a month left.

>>18391905
In order to be rich you have to be ok with usury and lie to do to lots of people . You see, it takes a lots of poor in order to have one rich. there is no way around it. capitalism is competition of usury by lie . with out money we all have got 24h a day to exchange in a meaningful way .

>>18393012
Everyone has something.

Even the degenerate junkies in high school who smoked meth and popped pills on the weekend could’ve grown up to be pharmacists due to their knowledge on drugs.

>>18393890
capitalism is competition of usury by lie to people like you

>>18392034
>>18393012
Everyone has something.

Even the degenerate junkies in high school who smoked meth and popped pills on the weekend could’ve grown up to be pharmacists due to their knowledge on drugs. Anon, what do you usually do in your free time or when your out with friends?

>>18394360
Usury is a buzzword for people with shitty quantitative reasoning skills.

>>18392034
>programmists

1. Learn proper english
2. You'll never become rich through legitimate means in Bulgaria/Eastern Europe
3. You sound stupid so I'm willing to bet you'll just end up having a dead end/manager job like most normies

>>18393890
I don't have problems that I could solve with computer app
>>18394372
>what do you usually do in your free time
listen to music
>when your out with friends?
drink alcohol

bbumpp

>>18394965
If your parents are ok with it, then there is nothing wrong with taking a year or two break before you run off to college. Most people do, so don’t be in a rush.

>>18394965
>listen to music
Not good enough. I guess you could learn to start playing music instead of listening, but that gives you a 1% chance of going big. Pursue music, but have a backup plan.
>drink alcohol
Scratch what I said about muh pharmacy. Alcohol users don’t know anything about pharmacology, leave that for the real drug users. I’m telling you anon, just look up the highest paying jobs in X country, and choose one of them that you find interesting.

>>18394360
Try again in English.

>>18391905
It doesn't matter what you choose as long as it isnt totally retarded
It's more about your attitude and ability to bring your energy out of yourself and learn and make connections
The rest money a girl a job ill come easy once you crack the code
Live humble earn respect work hard

>>18394965
>I don't have problems that I could solve
You won't get rich without solving a problem for someone. Do you expect people to give you money for free? Your only other option is to steal it- I hope they have comfy prisons in whatever country you live in.

>>18395201
If you’ve mastered the art or brainwashing yourself, it doesn’t matter what trade you choose. If you can convince yourself that you enjoy it.

>>18395150
man i know a fuck ton about recreational drugs but you must be dumbfuck retarded if you think that indicates i have a talent for prescribing alzheimer meds to some boomer. the most i've learned is what shit and in what dosage to avoid in over the counter cough syrup, a few names for things, and which drugs do not mix well and can kill (and anyone can get that from the drug chart or psychonaut wiki)

>>18395150
>Scratch what I said about muh pharmacy. Alcohol users don’t know anything about pharmacology, leave that for the real drug users
Lol I noticed that too drug users are always more intelligent than alcohol users
OP needs to get rid of the liquid jew it cost my friend his life at 28 that stuff will destroy your internal organs

>>18395215
I'm more on the lines of learning the truth of discipline
I'm sovereign from early bitcoin investment

>>18395150
>If your parents are ok with it, then there is nothing wrong with taking a year or two break before you run off to college
my parents aren't ok with it, also I think it would be just waste of time
>pursue music
lol I just like listening to rap music
> Your only other option is to steal it
I was thinking about doing illegal stuff actually
>You won't get rich without solving a problem for someone
but it's hard because so many things are already created, it is hard to find something that would be useful and doesn't exist
>>18395303
but I don't drink alcohol much
I haven't drunk alcohol for 2 months

also
highest paying jobs in my country
>product owner
>digital manager
>category manager
>e-commerce manager
>data sciencist
>HR business partner
about 2400$ per month

>>18394948
this x100
>t. slav programmist

cocи хyй вaфeл

bbbummp

>>18395252
“Good” drug users know the name of the active ingredients, how it works, dosage by weight and other factors, what plant the drugs come from, and much more. And they know it all by heart.

>>18391905

This guy is from Slovenia. And he's gonna be cucked by the socialist country. It does't even matter what he does, he's toast.

>>18395835
>>18395252
And they will know all the side effects, positive and negative (something actual pharmacists are bad at) not only that, some of them even know how to MAKE the drugs in their fucking kitchens.

>>18391905
Buy Guns And Silver, Paper Money Is Fake Money!

>>18395863
I'm from Poland actually

>>18395455
>>You won't get rich without solving a problem for someone
>but it's hard because so many things are already created, it is hard to find something that would be useful and doesn't exist
You are starting from a position of looking for something to create that will make you money. It's like trying to write a song because you want to become famous. People who write good songs do so because they have something meaningful to write about in the first place. Likewise, people who create new things do so because they have meaningful problems to solve.
Besides that, you are implicitly assuming that you have to create something new to become rich. You do not have to create something new to solve a problem for someone. I had a friend who fixed computers for boomers and made tons of money, but he never got rich because he was lazy and wasted his money on drugs. If he had prioritized his business, it would be managing itself by now. He didn't have to be a genious- all he did was found a group of people (boomers) with a problem (can't fix their computers) and solved the problem for them at a premium. He turned basic tech skills into profit.

>>18396297
>You won't get rich fixing somebody's problem
>My boyfriend could have gotten rich by fixing somebody's problem

>>18391975
You are 18 by the end of highschool mongoloid

>>18391905
>don't live in the US
yeaaa...no. the "rest of the world" doesn't matter to me

>>18391905
Most millionaires in the US aren’t hot shot programmers working for FAANG or some Jane Street wiz kids. Most millionaires are two bit boomer general contractors or some pajeet family that owns a couple of liquor stores. Be a landlord or open some boring business.

>>18396750
I literally said neither of those butt nice pic I guess here's your >reply

bamp

>>18391905
produce something

>>18391952
Because you sound like some loser who is just interested in muh presitgious job and muh sports car and whatever Gucci product the nigs in the rap videos are trying to sell you. This is a nigger tier mentality. Monetary gain is a huge incentive and a great source of motivation, but you also need (1) some degree of innate passion and interest, and (2) natural talent/skill in your particular field.

If you're first question out of high school is "how do I make money", then you're probably some low IQ blue collar loser. The question you should be asking yourself is, "how can I find a career path in which my personal interests and abilities will be advantageous". There are all sorts of different things you might consider. There's not just a single one-size-fits-all answer. Some people are suited marketing/management type stuff, some people to law, some people to STEM fields, etc. Of course you should pursue a practical and economically sensible career path, but there isn't just one single solution based on the "most lucrative" career path.

If you don't have any actual interests and aren't good at anything, you'll probably just end up being poor your whole life, which is what you deserve. For instance, I am 24 and I have a decent amount of financial successful despite having to take out massive student loans and not having any parental support since my dad was dead, and my mom was not in the picture anymore. I went to college for math (something I was actually interested in), I was good at it, I liked it, and now I own my own house (fully paid off) after graduating at 21 and I already have over $30k in savings. I'm not where I want to be yet educationally or financially, but I'm getting there, and I'm already way ahead of most people, let alone most 24 years olds, and that's because I studied something that was practical, that I was good at, and that I was interested in.

If you're curious I currently work in logistics/supply chain optimization.

>>18391905
>I tried programming many times but I can't stay consistent and I don't know if I like it
Project Manager, you got this.

>>18397883
God i fucking hate people like you in class

>what should I do if I want to be rich?

be an attractive woman:
-you could find a rich man to marry you
-you could be a Twitch thot milking simps
-you could sell nudes
-fuck your way into a high position in a company (also works for acting and singing)
-make a jewtube pretending to be a tradthot and ask viewers to drp cash in your patreon
-look for sugar daddies on trading apps
-become a femdom and make money by degrading degenerate men
-....

desu the options are endless

>>18397883
>21 years old
>own house fully paid off
man I live in Poland, people stop paying house loan here at the age of 50

>>18398174
You will never get rich in your country. You need to move out of Poland.

>>18398246
can I move out if I know only English? if I don't want to move to UK and US

>>18397883
not to piss on the roases but not everyone lives in burger land where people are payed $150k a year to sit on a desk all day.

you guys are the equivalant of the trustfund baby telling the blue collar how they cane make it like he did.

no we won't, in most countryes you have to work your ass off to put meet on the table, and you don't get to own your house till you're almost retired.

>>18398267
>speaks English
>wants to be rich
>won't move to US
you deserve to stay poor

>>18398362
Have you considered that people's labor in other countries is criminally undervalued as opposed to American labor being vastly overvalued?

>>18397883
based and pull yourself up by your bootstraps pilled

>>18398558
duh, that was my point.
the other Anon seem to think that you can "make it" no matter where you are, thats just not the case.

if you live in a 3rd world country, no matter how many Phds you have you'll still make less then an American waitress flipping burgers.

its also valid for for most Europe, an avrage European will earn about half as much as an American for the same job.

>>18398678
>>18398558
they say "when life gives you lemon, make limonade"
but sometimes life just give you shit and there isn't much you can do with it.

>>18394265

You can’t get rich without winning the lotto either before or after you’re born. It’s all a big gamble

>>18398678
You can though. All it takes is an internet connection, a bank account, and some creativity.

>>18398732
when life gives you shit, make fertilizer.

>>18397883
>If you're first question out of high school is "how do I make money", then you're probably some low IQ blue collar loser
Not necessarily. Many successful businessmen have dedicated their lives to autistically making as much money as they can, it's not always just a side-effect of following your passion. Making money can be a passion in and of itself.

>>18396807
This, just get a normal fucking job because it's obvious you aren't gonna make it doing anything else. Buy a couple houses and you're set.
>>18395455
If you have no passion you won't make it, if you wanna make it, stop drinking and start doing something, you sound like everyone else, either get a good profession/major in college, or get a trade and work so you can buy a house.

>>18398920
You don't have land to fertilize
>>18398905
Enlighten me
>inb4 programmer
>inb4 buy shitcoins

>>18399150
>You don't have land to fertilize
I wasn't being literal. Just like in poker, you don't always have to have the best hand to win. Take your anger for your situation and turn it into something positive. Don't just sit there and woe is me and blame everyone else for all your problems. Realize that while you may not be the cause of your problems or station in life, you are responsible for choosing to accept it, or to change it.
>enlighten me
1. Some dude in Canada sells fresh bottled Canadian air to people in China. and was grossing like 600k a year last I heard
2. Some dude in the 1970's sold rocks to people as pets and made like 10 million.

>>18399361
This isn't a fucking job, this is a one in a million gable, thats the equivalent of winning the lottery

>>18394965
>I don't have problems that I could solve with computer app

so all the software and tech you use is perfect then and can't be improved, never gonna make it

>>18398267
I knew where are you from way before you did an open coming out.

You want to be rich? First of all, leave that country. Seriously. Poland is a super shitty place to live. You think it is not that bad there but you're living dreams of a lunatic.

Working for someone you'll earn nothing and I mean it. I dedicated years of my life getting a degree in one of the mentioned fields of engineering and my diploma is a piece of garbage for most employers globally. Not worth it. You want to start own business? Read articles on how the government treats entrepreneurs and what politics and officials think about rule, lex retro non agit and why "bankruptcy" is a fiction term in Poland.

You don't want to live in the USA? Good. Because you won't be able to, getting a visa allowing you to work legally in the USA is super hard even if you've got a decent background and experience.

Germany, Denmark, Norway, and other wealthy countries nearby are your answer but even learning a foreign language seems to be too much to you. As a hustler or entrepreneur you have to be willing to learn all the time. And learning a language to a communicative level takes 1 year and requires no investment if you are determined enough.

Sorry buddy but that's a harsh reality. And if you've not been already working and willing to hustle and learn you won't have money in Poland as long as you won't get it illegally or sell your soul and become another corrupted politic making it so shitty place to live.

You want my advice? Learn something not-sexy what you will like and works your ass off. As a plumber, electrician or mechanic you will be able to feed your family and make some money quickly. Don't spend what you earn, keep saving and start learning a useful foreign language (like German) at least 30 minutes a day. Save some money and emigrate abroad with sufficient skills and language skills and you will understand why it was a good choice.

>>18397883
based

>>18398267
Most people shouldn't play on the stock market or become entrepreneurs and that's completely okay. If you don't have a proper mindest on your own I don't think you'll be able to do that in interesting industry anon. But people still need and will physical workers. And with proper experience and savings, you'll be the very best person to start a small service company which might be your chance to make a decent profit. And if you won't feel that a business is not for you there is always a safety cushion created by your skills and experience. This is what I would do if I was 19 years old person with no passion, liabilities, ability to force myself to learn and plans for the future and living in Poland.

>>18397883
Good for you anon, really glad you made it. But remember that environment has an incredible impact for you and maybe, just maybe, cause you seem to be a very rational and hardworking person, you won't be able to sit in fully paid house at age of 24, no matter how passionate you would be about anything.

As I mentioned at the beginning, no harsh feelings, I highly respect a self-made people, nonetheless quite often I see opinions from people living in completely different reality not being able to understand that the whole globe looks and works exactly the same.

>>18399656
t. slav

>>18394372
>Anon, what do you usually do in your free time or when your out with friends?
watch movies and play video games

>>18391905

accounting

or

sales

>>18391905
get some camping gear, a mossberg and a gas mask.
learn how to skin a rabbit and build campfires with sticks and rocks.
shit's gonna go dark this autumn.