/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for jannies

how many points on the S&P500 does 6 trillion buy

people really need to separate what they think the stock market will do and what they think everything else will do in the future. some bobos unironically acting like the world is gonna end and that this is a good thing.

I love all of you.

I want S&p 500 notifications

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAt7Rg1u2l8
how do I vote for this guy to be the president?

So what happens to the price of oil on Monday? I had to go to the ER yesterday so missed all the trading news, just got home.

>MEXICO'S PRES. OBRADOR: I SPOKE TO TRUMP BEFORE MAKING AN OFFER TO REDUCE OUTPUT BY 100,000 BPD

So he had to go through the big boy first before agreeing to anything, kek'd

>https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/3079126/japan-pay-firms-leave-china-relocate-production-elsewhere-part?__twitter_impression=true
>Japan to pay firms to leave China, relocate production elsewhere as part of coronavirus stimulus
>More than US$2 billion of the country’s record economic stimulus package will be used to help companies move production away from China
>The move coincides with what should have been a celebration of friendlier ties between the two countries, before the pandemic struck


AND SO IT BEGINS!

>>18390539
Abandon all hope

Can the stock market go on a bull run without the economy to back it up?

>>18390564
brr

>>18390559
Why I thought they agreed to cuts?

>>18390564
Previous QE inflated the stock market before. Most of the last "bull run" was because of it. Imagine what INFINITE QE can do.

Tesla will always be an awkward, bourgeois toy that is designed to solve a problem that ICE vehicles created. They will continue to have supply chain issues and be at the mercy of ICE and, as consequence, oil, in their own supply chain. They are also a nightmare to aftermarket service. I fail to see how he expects to get Model 3's into the average American's hands. I mean, I get it: he only cares about the Chinese market because that's where he can get actual market saturation. China is fucking him in the ass, though.
>>18390286
Lithium isn't the issue. It's cobalt. Please do at least a tiny bit of reading on how the batteries work before commenting on them.

>>18390564
as long as the big guys buy into the feds ponzi scheme, but from the looks of it many are still waiting on the sidelines

>>18390554
Based nips. They'll survive this.

Stock markets open on monday? its still a holiday here

Happy Good Friday, bros. How are you going to spend this holy weekend?

>>18390564
It would make the recovery much more volatile because of the bad future data, but since the stock market is basically an indicator of sorts with "unlimited QE".. then yeah. Clearly not healthy but ay

Apparently my state is extending the shutdown to the end of the month and is prohibiting landscaping stores from operating and also not letting people travel to other residences.

If i cant even do yard work while im laid off what the fuck am i supposed to do? They havent even given us money yet and yet they are increasing restrictions. Im getting tired of this whole thing. Fuck boomers and fat people

>>18390564
>what is inflation

>>18390576
Mexico stormed out. It's over. We're all gonna die

>>18390608
Already beat off and ate red meat. About to go off and covet my neighbor's possessions while a big flock of nothing happens on this non-holiday.

>>18390584
>>18390576
But everything needs genuine support.

>>18390594
The thing is that stocks are mostly owned by billionaires. So when they're bailed out by the fed, they probably feel good about this. I feel like they're disconnected from the public that's actually facing the unemployment and lack of purchasing power. How long can billionaires remain bullish or be convinced to become bullish by the fed without the masses to buy their products?

>>18390608
gonna work out, and maybe mow my lawn later (ugh)

>>18390564
Theoretically the market is forward looking. So if the economy in the future is going to be better the market will go up.

>>18390608
By learning how to be more agression in RTS games. I turtle and focus on economy too much. Also, not eating meat.

>>18390608
I'll watch anime and spend some time on 8kun's christian board.

>>18390639
Work on your apm, dude.

>>18390628
>But everything needs genuine support.
All of these bailouts, not emergency loans, are to serve equity holders. The stock market will get to dump easy money and junk bonds to fuel another bubble. And we will get more and more zombie corporations to prop it all up.

>>18390564
Ofc, even bearish institutions and other investors abuse the bulls and vice versa. We get situations where values can fluctuate 10-20% in short term without real change in economy.

Also, inflation

Also, bubbles.

>there are people on here who haven’t gone all in on NIO

Why don’t you want to be a millionaire in 5 years?

Where’s dividend stock bro?

I am looking to buy some ex-US dividend stocks to diversify in terms of currency (no airlines, cruises or anything with >20% default risk), preferably in EUR, CHF, SGD.

Anything worth looking into?

>>18390652
I miss 8ch /pol/ so much. I feel really lost and alone since it got shoahed.

>>18390690
REITs
I bought some shares of a Canadian REIT with ~9% dividend.

>>18390652
>Actually using 8cuck
>Actually using it after the fat pig scammed wheels out of it

gib stonk for +50% next week

>https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/uk/war-veteran-survives-coronavirus-scli-intl-gbr/index.html
>Albert Chambers, who will turn 100 in July, is due to arrive back home on Friday after recovering from the virus at Tickhill Road Hospital in Doncaster, northern England.
>Chambers was admitted to the hospital three weeks ago after injuring his wrist in a fall. While there, he began to show symptoms of Covid-19 and tested positive for the virus.
>But, despite the fears of his family, he recovered, and nurses at the hospital saw him off with a guard of honor -- a moment that was captured on video and shared on social media by the NHS Northeast and Yorkshire health trust.
>"Thank you very much, I appreciate every bit you've done for me. I fought off those chink bastards in the war, this time was no different." Chambers, who has lived alone since his wife's death almost two decades ago, tells one of the nurses in the video.

is this bullish?

>>18390611
amen brother, I'm finna bouta firebomb the governors mansion over the golf ban tbqhyf

>>18390715
Don't really know what you're talking about, but hotwheel's a faggot now, so I don't care.

>>18390606
European markets are closed, american markets are open.

>>18390608
Working 10 hour shifts. Fri-wed. Glad to have a job.

>>18390721
>old people surviving
Kinda bearish for the economy but everything is bullish for the market now. Bad news = bullish. Good news = bullish x 2.

>>18390711
/pnd/ is pretty similar, but it's not the same. I also miss it.

>>18390606
TSX is open. Get Canadian dollars pls.

>>18390733
you have to work all through Easter weekend?

>>18390586
>its cobalt

cobalt is rapidly becoming irrelevant, its too much of a hassle to mine and theres too much backlash against it

>>18390757
I'm essential in a hospital. I work all holidays.

>>18390586
You get any good lithuim battery stock recommedations?

>>18390711

I too miss it tremendously

>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-us-reopen-economy-anthony-fauci/
>If U.S. reopens, we must prepare for coronavirus infections to "rear their heads again," Dr. Fauci says
>Medical experts and political officials have said there are signs that social distancing is working in America and the spread of the coronavirus is slowing. But Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, said the country can't loosen social restrictions yet and needs to be ready for a possible return of the virus.
>"We are doing a very good job on mitigation, on the physical separation, the adherence to the guidelines," Fauci said on "CBS This Morning" Thursday.
>A new model from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington shows COVID-19 deaths could total around 60,000 by August, a drop from earlier predictions that said there could be 100,000 to 200,000 deaths.
>With the bit of good news, many Americans are wondering if they will be able to return to something resembling normal life this summer. Fauci said it's possible, but steps need to be taken first to prevent a second wave of infections.
>"When we pull back and try to open up the country, … we have to be prepared that when the infections start to rear their heads again that we have in place a very aggressive and effective way to identify, isolate, contact, trace, and make sure we don't have those spikes that we've seen now."
>The "bottom line," he said, is that's it's "very likely" we will be progressing toward normalization as we get closer to April 30, the date the federal social distance guidelines were extended to.
>"I think that's going to be a good time to look and see how quickly can we make that move to try and normalize," Fauci said. "Hopefully by the time we get to the summer, we will have taken many steps in that direction."

so we're gonna get a 2nd wave and my parents will probably die, won't they? fuck.

>>18390792
>>so we're gonna get a 2nd wave and my parents will probably die, won't they? fuck.
Invest the inheritance in stonks and real estate.

Here is a partial list of zombie companies (Jan 1, 2019) that had 100k+ trade volume per day. This number will certainly explode after infinite QE.

>>18390554
I've said it before, the biggest impact that this is actually going to have is that people aren't going to trust keeping so much of their manufacturing base in China. Manufacturing is either going to return to developed countries if it can easily be automated, or otherwise be increasingly redistributed throughout Latin America, South Asia, Southeast Asia, and Indonesia.

>>18390731
I see you swallowed Jim's fat load happily.
>Doesn't even know anything about the US spooks site he uses
The absolute state of newfags

>>18390820
>zombie companies
so what?
the market couldn't care less about the real world economy

>>18390815
it's so sad reading shit like this. people now are just like "yup, my older at risk loved ones are gonna die and everyone is gonna get this thing, oh well what can ya do?"

Should I pick up some ATHX? If so, how long do I have to hold before seeing some gains? I picked some up a couple of weeks ago but dumped it when I started hemorrhaging money.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE why are markets closed today?

>>18390836
>Manufacturing
Son, factories are closing all over the country. All over the world. We'll be lucky if we have half the manufacturing we did in 2 years.

>>18390792
I’m getting really sick of this faggot. Dr. Koop this guy isn’t.

>>18390608
Sex with my wife

>>18390784
Albemarle

>>18390564
Thats called a bubble

>>18390869
I mean in the long-term m8, no shit manufacturing isn't going to return to anywhere right at this very second, but once things start opening up again it's become pretty apparent that people are already looking to move things elsewhere.

>>18390841
>Doesn't even know anything about the US spooks
Where did I say that? You were talking about some scam. Anyway, seems like you haven't been paying attention.

But Raytheon?

>>18390853
all you can do is be healthy
if other people are unhealthy, it's up to them to work on that.

>>18390893
Hey I already bought that last year
It's already back up at my cost basis

>>18390917
So you don't even know how piggy stole the domain?
How suitable for piggy's little cash cow.

Thoughts on BABA?

>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-10/amazon-warehouse-toured-by-bezos-has-first-worker-covid-19-case
>An Amazon.com Inc. warehouse visited this week by Chief Executive Officer Jeff Bezos confirmed its first employee coronavirus case, according to a message sent to workers on Thursday.

we're gonna have a vaccine in a week, guaranteed. no way is billionaire bezos dying of this shit.

What do you think about tobacco stocks?
You'd think that a company that a company that is self aware of the dangers of smoking would try to grow into a different market altogether.
But what about this?
https://www.pmi.com/our-transformation/delivering-a-smoke-free-future

>>18390634
>maybe mow my lawn later (ugh)
Revolting zoomer detected. Lawn maintenance is the zenith of pleasure of the /biz/nessman.

>>18390686
>Why don’t you want to be a millionaire in 5 years?

NIOs total stock supply is really high. 1.05B shares outstanding is basically a shitcoin considering its sector and base of operations.

>>18390498
How is that not a good thing?

>>18390976
>no way is billionaire bezos dying of this shit.
not a single important or filthy rich person is going to die from it. you can entirely prevent serious effects by machinery like ecmo etc.
close to no person on earth would have to die from it, if there were infinitely money and resources like machines and workers.
because there are strong restrictions the best care is for the richest only.

>>18390979
Don't invest in those retards

Who /RTX/ here?

how do I profit from The Non-Family?

>>18391037
>ecmo
if you go on aggressive treatments like ecmo your quality of life will be seriously degraded

>>18390711
Well there is 8kun.

>>18391052
I mean who are they kidding.
"we make cigarettes, but we know 100% it's bad so we are looking to find alternatives to cigarettes but without the harm"
I mean what the fuck. Just let them die already

>>18390887
>marriage
Hope you chose the superior breed of women.

>>18391053
what's up
/rtx/ here

what's so good about it...

>He invested in a China based country
Uh oh

When every country moves manufacturing out of china will the costs of consumer goods and electronics stay the same?
Will the stocks of those companies go up long term or down?

>>18391055
>if you go on aggressive treatments like ecmo your quality of life will be seriously degraded
more like you will be in a coma for some days probably weeks. but eventually you immune system will sort shit out.
biggest problem with this pneumonia and the comorbidities is the enormous stress for your system especially your heart. for your body it is as you run marathon for weeks nonstop. but when all cardio pulmonary functions are sourced out to machines there is way less stress on the whole system.

>buy 1 k shares of NIO for 2.5k
>wait 10 years
>become a millionare

It is that simple. Or do you hate free money?

>>18391155
>will the costs of consumer goods and electronics stay the same
probably going up anyway
>Will the stocks of those companies go up long term or down?
many up, some down.

how do I manage my bankroll?

>>18390792
We're not going to normalize on April 30th. These people are peddling delusion to keep the market afloat. They remove the guidelines, then what? Do companies want to get sued for packing 1,000 - 2,000 people in an office building during a pandemic? Just imagine the workers compensation. Do consumers want to travel and eat in restaurants during a pandemic? What politician in California or New York wants to be responsible for a second wave?

Slow burn. They'll keep changing the dates and peddling false hope and then one day the market will realize it's all a crock of horseshit and this is no 'V shaped' recovery.

>>18391037
This. The rich have access to literally anything. Have you ever heard of a millionaire or billionaire dieing on the waiting list for an organ transplant? Or even being on a waiting list? No, their are services that make sure the organ becomes "available immediately". My guess is a a human trafficking ring that takes blood type records.

>>18391169
Ayyyy my guy

>>18391182
>Do companies want to get sued for packing 1,000 - 2,000 people in an office building during a pandemic
depends on the workers comp claims. some states will have it that the payout might be from a comp policy. you'll see new endorsements regarding pandemics soon.

>>18391193
It's called taking a vacation to China. Uyghur organs, Falun Gong organs, Hong Kong dissident organs. The CPC has very good quality.

You know the deal, bullfags.
One week green, one week red. That's how we keep fucking these jews out of their shekels.

Why did RTX take such a nose dive this year? Shouldnt defense spending be less impacted by a pandemic?

>>18391053
Why’d this thing dump so hard after the merger?

Based on what?

>>18391170
Will Nintendo move switch manufacturing outside of china?
I think Japan is focusing on that.
That will raise prices.

>>18391169
Nio is a pretty bad stock and I would’ve advise investing in Chinese companies

>>18391169
if they even still exist in a decade I bet they dilute their stock even more within the course of 10 years. Those fuckers burn cash like its going out of style.

>>18391228
>move to Vietnam or get Abe aid
i think our nintendies will be fine.

>>18391233
Don't expect someone who looks only at charts and not fundamentals to understand your post

>>18390608
going to build a false idol

>>18390792
>A new model from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington shows COVID-19 deaths could total around 60,000 by August

Every >IQ100 trader would know that all the models trying to predict future are utter bullshit and works only to impress degenerates like Trump or Putin

The current crisis is also unique in a sense that it hits the economy at a time when interest rates are close to zero (in particular Euro & Yen). So whilst in earlier recessions or crisis investors could shift their asset allocation into (government) bonds and and sit it out, such a strategy is less attractive today. I assume investors will hence move back into equities much earlier. The risk/return profile for government bonds does not look very attractive, in particular should government borrowing costs rise given huge debt levels which many governments will now build up and which need to be funded by the markets.

Is there any way for me to get access to a stock scanner that works in real time without having to pay $800+ a year? Someone has to offer a free or cheap real time stock screener.

>>18391228
The only reason at this point that China is seriously being used for manufacturing still is because supply chains are well-established there and businesses know how to work with local laws. There are actually dozens of countries where manufacturing is cheaper and where infrastructure is coming up to the point where expanding operations is becoming easier. Nintendo could easily relocate its manufacturing to various Southeast Asian countries at this point and probably save money, the only issue is the initial cost.

>>18391258
we might actually want BTC, unironically. The inflation rate will end up being less than the inflation rate of the dollar. It might see some of the money that otherwise would have went to govt bonds.

>>18391221
because they thought it was a good idea to merge with an escalator company

How do I invest in Vietnam?

>>18391214
>"he Chinese government approved a regulation in 1984 to allow the removal of organs from executed criminals, provided they give prior consent or if no one claims the body"
Now that's what I call communism. Redistribution of organs.

Earnings may fall 50% in 2020 but valuations are based on expected earnings over a far longer period. If there is an expectation that things will return to near 'normal' in 2021 (or even in the period to 2025) then value doesn't fall 'roughly as much as corporate earnings do'. Stock markets may do so of course, as they get driven down by technicals, emotions, momentum and other things detached from fundamentals.

>>18391301
haha you can't haha

>>18391301
vietnam is spooky. china encroaching on northern territory. i'd stay out of it personally.

>>18391230
>>18391233

I cannot wait for when I can post in 10 years from my private boat, in Carribean banging sluts.

Ligma balls

>>18391298
Yeah but didnt Utech spin off Otis beforehand?!

>>18391298
They spun off Otis, who needs some faggy ass elevators anyway.

>>18391215
Bobo here. Went 13x long on Gold out of anger. I really hope that reality sets in before my june and august puts expire.

>>18391228
>Been saying for a year now that eventually everyone resting there capitalist balls in a communist gator jaw would get fucked
I think it's truly about to happen. Companies are already looking at pulling out before the jaw snaps shut. My guess is, if this persists, before something like Apple can pull out China will go full communism mode and say "nope everything physically within the province of China is now nationalized Chinese property. We make Iphones and Teslas now. Not know offs, we just make and sell them and they are cheaper." We may well be in a cold war over Becky's iphone 12 getting delayed. I'm just glad people are waking up. Disney and hollywood will be sure to forever grovel and suck China's dick though.

>>18390586
Cobalt can be recycled
The lithium is lost
>also there are batteries without cobalt in their electrode

Comparisons of the 1929 crash with the Coronavirus crash are false comparisons. The former was the result of imbalances and excesses the latter is temporary. Any investor with access to the US markets index will be a winner given the depth and the liquidity of the markets. I am not so sure about FTSE. Perhaps beartards are projecting or merely trying to pass nonsensical information to scare long term investors from waiting out this major correction stating the obvious about earnings without accounting for the FED. Anyone who goes against the FED loses or misses out bi on the opportunity to invest long term. There will be corrections ahead but the Markets are going UP!

>>18391363
>Bobo
>13x long on Gold
glad to see you didn't neck yourself, but stocks and gold generally move in the same direction. At least toward the beginning of a panic

There is literally nothing wrong with investing in Chinese companies.

>>18391407

>>18391379
They are not really that corrolated if you zoom out. Same with Bitcoin. My knockoit barrier is hit if gold dumps 6%. Quite possible, but I think we go up from here. Were at a resistance level and the fed is going nuts. Breakout is likely.

>>18390916
So invest in companies who built factory machinery

>AMC likely to file for bankruptcy

>>18391407
I mean people are actively "investing" into crypto shitcoins that literally stands for nothing other than hype/hope so I guess. Don't be shocked if it suddenly tanks 70% though

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

nothing is moving?? was there a circuit breaker?

>>18391428
sounds bullish according to this market

>>18391366
To be honest china has probably already copied everything and will sell copies of Tesla's and iPhone's and sell them cheaper. If they can see what's happening right now then it's their winning move to do that.
They can say they want to run final inspections before anything moves out and copy it all.
The only way to stop chinese goods would be tariffs and sanctions back by racism at that point.

>>18391407
>Making capitalist investment in communism
What could go wrong?

>>18391428
fucking good. I hope local buyers buy up their property and make actually good theaters and start filming actually good movies

>>18391421
Good luck, i'd be very surprised by a 6% dump. best of luck! the only thing i still have are gold miners. everything else has been sold, financial institutions, retail, tech, oil... all sold Wednesday those miners are the only thing i think can keep crawling upward.

OH FUCK WHAT DID I MISS

>>18391379
the beginning, middle, and end of the panic already happened bro

the next panic is in the fall when the European and Chinese financial systems collapse

>>18391428
Now, if I short AMC, or buy a put, and they stop existing. What happens?

>>18391448
Much of the tech you use everyday has been conceived, not copied, by China.

>>18390836
What are your favourite picks for manufacturing locations?
What's the best way to benefit off something like this besides >>18391426

>>18391438
;^)

Which will be the consequences of this fed pump in the long term guys?
Is it sustainable? Or are gold fag right?

>>18391469
see you next thursday

>>18391472
Doesn't work that way.

>>18391491
it was Monday yesterday
now it's Thursday? is it even happening at this point?

>>18391510
might be monday, might be two weeks. here's one better, i'll see you at S&P 2950. bullcucks will undeniably be right if we breakthrough that or confirm 2800.

>>18391488
It's just the mother of all dead cats, of course it's not sustainable.

>>18391455
Some of their companies are too big to fail like Huawei. Investing in those could have been a great idea in the beginning because the government supported them. Anything their government tacitly supports cannot lose and will win. Communism works too. That's why china has come this far.

>>18390457
wait jannies do it for free?
how do they pay rent and eat?

friendly reminder that you missed the bottom

>>18391221
There are now more shares, it didn’t nosedive

>>18391488
The world is lending the US money at less than cost (less than inflation will be over the life) and the amount of money being pumped into the economy is less than has been destroyed via the shutdown, making the inflationary risk extremely low. For the Treasury, money is free right now, got use it or lose it.

>>18391565
unfortunately that's true.

>>18391565
ok boomer

>>18391565
>missed
Already went full in pretty close to the bottom.
When the bobos where at their smuggest that's when I knew it was going to bottom.

>>18391488
The real bubble, USD, pops or the Fed tries to balance their books and raise interest rates and the mother of all crashes is upon us.

It seems I have missed the bottom.
What has not dead cat bounced yet so I can profit?
I could wait but this is stupid at this point. Time in the market does beat timing the market

>>18391602
>Fed tries to balance their books
yeah, what the fuck was with 2018. shocking imo.

Will the Q1 earning reports be priced in?

>>18391630
yes

All these trump buxx and no market to spend them on. fuggggg

>>18391642
You already got your free gibs? Proof?

>>18391363
>13x
Impressive. I'm too much of a pussy to use leverage like that.

>>18391565
>implying I didn’t send my clients a list of 56 names on the first of the month and most loaded up on them

>>18390608
Look into building a robotic ant killer. They keep coming back into the house so fuck it I’ll holocaust them with a fucking laser bot.

Bullish.

>>18391642
rent nigger

>>18391630
It's expected to be bad by everyone so yes, they might do a small dump to scare a few people to sell or to re-fill their longs but that's about it

>>18391330
>Investing in China
Just take your money out of the bank and light it on fire, will save you 10 years of waiting.

>>18390611
read a book

>>18391606
Slowly invest in what the fuck ever. Shit is still down like 60-80% in some cases.

Protip: it's not even close to over, the bottom may still be out there.

NYMT NRZ CCL RCL etc

>>18391656
>my clients
>dad, mom, grandma

>>18391646
Showed up in my account today. Here let me upload my info for you... Opps tendies are done. Gotta go.

>>18391630
There is no reason why stocks should go down with respect to infinite fiat currencies.

so what's the status on oil
dropping or mooning next week?

>>18391678
I should use that opportunity. I don't have any longs

>>18391673
the USA is a shit show

>>18391700
kek'd & check'd

>>18391676
That’s the weird thing. I’m not.

anyone else kicking their TA learning into hyperdrive during this lockdown? i don't want to go back to work, get locked in the wagie cagie with the rest of the filth, get corona'd and kill my parents with it. gotta find a way to make money for 1-2 years until a vaccine is created.

>>18391700
>works at one of the largest life insurers
>maybe it was your mom
Stay mad poorfag enjoy missing the opportunity of a lifetime

>>18390500
piyo

>>18391716
Paupers grave. This is where they bury homeless unclaimed bodies.

>>18391482
IMO Vietnam is the most likely, due to both proximity to China and relative development. Indonesia and India are less stable but have huge populations and stable enough pockets where manufacturing is definitely attractive, especially now that they've developed enough to allow for more easy transportation and construction of new factories. Latin America is kind of a crap-shoot due to both large areas of instability and relatively high wages, but that could be offset by proximity to major markets in Europe and North America. I could easily see manufacturing return to Mexico for example despite the instability there and high wages, simply because it's a large country directly next to the US and relatively cheaper.

In terms of benefiting I'd say that you should follow which countries manufacturing really seems to be moving to and invest in companies located there. There will likely be a watershed effect much like what happened in China where industrial growth will lead to greater business growth overall due to general improvements in economic activity.

>>18391736
can you guess if it'd be worth it to transition to personal lines + mutual/stonk shilling from P&C MO? My network's pretty small and I'm figuring that business will generally be pretty hard to generate in the short term.

>>18391476
China hasn't invented anything since gunpowder. Pic related, a "Chinese" formula e team.

>>18391062
Not the same. There was never ptg/Q shit on there without being called out and banned.

>>18391782
I’d suggest getting advice from the guy you kek with

Can someone explain what this means? Is this a fucking lunch break?

>>18391565
why won't stocks go lower if the economy is unironically dead? or if we get forced back to work by our corporate overlords early and the hospital system inevitably gets overrun with a second wave of infections?

the problem right now is that the fundamentals are a complete mess so i don't understand how you can buy and hold, your best bet is to either day trade of wait for a real recovery (vaccine created or some treatment or something), THEN start your boomer DCA plan. you may just find out your cheapies weren't so cheap.

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>>18391816
sankyuu

>>18391079
Fuck off insectfucker

>>18391787

lol most of those guys are probably English

>>18391831
Oh no, the paleroast got triggered!

>>18391825
i dont invest in chinkshit, you filthy LK bagholder

>>18391775
>india and indonesia

aren't their hygiene practices just as bad as china though? couldn't the next plague come from india just as easily as china because it's still a fucking 3rd world shithole? the whole problem is how the fuck do we stop the 3rd world degenerates from eating weird animals because they're poor as fuck.

>>18391820
Wow, L2 and not a clue about holidays, pathetic

>>18391820
Good Friday.

>>18391849

You don't. You roll back the modern superglobalist dogma and go back to a more traditional approach on global trade that sees it as "the cherry on top" or a way to supplement your own diversified, robust domestic economy. If somethings happens like a global pandemic, you can just shutter up and weather it out. No one could close their doors to China because they were dependent as tits on them.

>>18391438
WHAT WAS THAT! FUCK YOU JEROME!!!!

>>18391825
Give me one detailed reason why and i'll buy 1000 shares

>>18391841
I don't know anon, he's got a point. I find them cute too but then I think of the hapas. It's always a shot in the dark on how they come out. I wouldn't want to give kids the ugly.

>>18391787
/sp/ refugee reporting in

>>18391880
Then you really shouldn't be breeding to begin with.

Fuck good friday, go to work you slaves

>>18391877
Government subsidized

>>18391825
>China
XD

>>18391841
Miscegenation shill

>>18391890
Who said I was?

>https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/why-some-doctors-are-moving-away-ventilators-virus-patients-n1179986
>Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for coronavirus patients on ventilators, and some doctors worry that the machines could be harming certain patients.
>Generally speaking, 40 percent to 50 percent of patients with severe respiratory distress die while on ventilators, experts say. But 80 percent or more of coronavirus patients placed on the machines in New York City have died, state and city officials say.
>Higher-than-normal death rates also have been reported elsewhere in the U.S., said Dr. Albert Rizzo, the American Lung Association’s chief medical officer.
>Similar reports have emerged from China and the United Kingdom. One U.K. report put the figure at 66 percent. A very small study in Wuhan, the Chinese city where the disease first emerged, said 86 percent died.
>The reason is not clear. It may have to do with what kind of shape the patients were in before they were infected. Or it could be related to how sick they had become by the time they were put on the machines, some experts said.

Bullish.

>>18391922
Except that faggot shits on ricelovers though, autistically so.

I can't believe I missed the bottom bros...

>>18391881
Pandemic was all fun and games until they cancelled Moto GP. Now have to go all summer without Marci Marq doing his thing.

>>18391946
unemployment is a leading indicator this time because it was a state mandated shutdown. The typical cause of unemployment is a slowdown in demand, increase in inventories, and need to cutback on production. People may be dumb enough to buy that it's a lagging indicator for 2020 and bump stocks, but it's fundamentally wrong.

>>18391935
Not even he was on infinity chan. He would spam nigger cuck shit daily while shilling his hapashit.

What’s the difference here? Oil?

>>18391849

>>18391871 took the words right out of my mouth. Supply chains are going to get more diversified rather than putting all their chickens in one basket, specifically so that they don't have to worry about one country getting shut down or manipulating information that could harm production. India, Indonesia, Vietnam, Mexico etc aren't countries where all Chinese manufacturing would be relocated to individually, but rather where parts of Chinese manufacturing would be distributed about.

>>18391946
The last three Thursday saw huge rallies though? Unemployment isn't news.

>>18392005
>Supply chains are going to get more diversified
have we learned nothing about pandemics

>>18392001
Forgot pic

>>18392005
besides hoping i don't get it and kill my parents with it, i honestly feel like coronachan is a good thing. companies became complacent during the good times and this is waking them up and forcing them to be better prepared for the future. people can't be lazy anymore after this, they're realizing there is a cost to cheap labor.

>>18391827
And now that bulls are hitting peak smug and bullying the bobos, it's time to buy puts?

>>18392037
>IT has been sitting on their thumbs for a year on workstations and work from home
>stupid faggot virus comes around
>suddenly 80% of the corp is now setup with a home office
>they get praised
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

why is the fed trying to keep the bubble inflated, why not let it pop but just pump every 2nd down day to limit the panic selling? the jobs are already gone they should just take the long view--let unproductive capital die

>>18392025
No, not at fucking all. Why would they care? The fed bought most of the big companies debt so why would they bother.

>>18392025
Countries will respond to pandemics in different ways and at different rates. If one country shuts down and it's where all your manufacturing is located, you get fucked. If multiple countries shut down but it's only where half of your manufacturing is located, you still get fucked, but less so. Global pandemics like this are not commonplace and even then take place in stages, diversifying supply chains helps to ensure that some capacity is able to be maintained or could be more easily switched over in the event of a future outbreak. More likely, an outbreak would be relatively localized, so making sure that your manufacturing isn't all located in that local is a good way to keep things moving.

>>18392037
>companies became complacent during the good times and this is waking them up and forcing them to be better prepared for the future
kek, no.
Money printer basically reset all of the bad things they should have reaped from taking risks like this. It's a repeat of 2008 except there is even less pressure to do it.

>>18392057
Playing devil's advocate but IT is often stuffed by bureaucracy. They weren't going to set up anything like that until management allowed them to.

hows my TA bros
shortest bear market = shortest bull market

>>18392059
>the jobs are already gone they should just take the long view--let unproductive capital die
There are estimates that 10-20% of firms in the US are zombies. You pop them you get all that unemployment. I still think its the right move but no politician wants to make. And the longer you keep interest rates at 0 and turn on QE taps the more zombies you will get.
This is literally step 1 of Japanifying your economy. You keep inflating bubbles over and over again because you don't want to inflict pain on equity holders.

This can be a Micheal Burry tier situation.
Fed pumping anything that moves negatively. Even the junkiest of junks.
And you expect this will be a permanent solution to this hit market? No way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4gJnKOCNhs

nobody knows what's gonna happen with oil?

>>18392122
You should change it every 5000 miles. Consult your owners manual.

>>18391881
hey same here, fuck the jannies and mods there. this corona thing might make me leave there for good. probably only go back to watch UCL knockouts, everything else is boring

>>18392050
maybe, but i'm still expecting to see us crawl up or crab at the 50% retrace.
Note: he's PL insurance/finance sales. guys with the series 6/7/63/etc read like that in my experience. In his defense, it was an unrealistic question and off topic.

>>18392076
>USA
>contry with some of the greatest natural endowments
>won't fucking bring manufacturing home
JUST.

>>18392092
You're probably right. I think the neighboring dept was waiting for upper approval, not necessarily the technicians. I'm thinking it's time to move on soon.

What the fuck is up with simplywallst? yahoo finance keeps posting their articles and they're always the most outrageously retarded (automated) articles I've ever seen.

>>18391465
He is risen!

>>18392134
DONT POST IT

>>18392171
I remember 2 months ago I had my rangeban removed so I went to the Arby's drive-thru and asked /sp/ what I should get
fun thread that eventually got whacked as they always do. might do that again today shit I have to see if they're open

>>18391543
>Communsim works
hehehehehehe, but not real communism amirite?

>>18392133
god damn it

>>18392195
>rangeban

kek where tf are you Romania?

>>18392153
It sucks ass?

>>18392098
I got similar numbers here (2966.68 retrace, then finds support at 2081.82) I like your TA bro.

>>18392240
Why are yahoo picking them up and why do they even fucking exist, that's what I'm asking.

>>18392266
They're selling their shitty portfolio tracker and analysis, verizon just aggregates news so they get ad revenue from visits

Next Fed move will be to buy equities. Boeing, Ford, and GE will be top of the list. Fuck TA. Fuck FA. These are strong buys. Jerome will literally be paying you to own stock in these companies. Screencap this.

>>18392234
it was a phone rangeban but kek i know what you're insinuating. I'm the haalandposter and made the mbrappe time wasting thread the other day to piss off the frogs that have been there since quarantine started. they're fucking cancerous

>>18392291
absolutely based

>>18392285
I wanted to play F but there was tard-strength resistance every time I looked.

>>18392285
when will the round be shot? I don't think they'll do that unless there's a delay into June.

>>18392285
>Ford
Haha, you know what Ford stands for, Jerome? It stands for fix it again Tony

>>18392327
It took them like 3 weeks to go from infinite liquidity to the repo market to buying junk bonds. All of their actions are timed to stock market moves, none of the other indicators come out fast enough.
I am thinking the time scale is weeks, not months.

>>18392285
the Fed already bought junk bonds, anon. they don't need any more junk.

>>18392346
Did you know that 80% of all Fords made are still on the road today?
The other 20% made it home safe.

>>18392285
They will buy ETFs, like they do with bonds. It would be pretty fucking ridiculous if they bought shares of companies. You'd see ford do a +30% on the news JPow was becoming a majority shareholder.

>>18391556
jannies don't do it totally for free but that's only if you count the occasional emergency stimulus packagehot pocket they get every once and a while when they get too close to an hero. It's a policy in place by gookmoot to give them back a tiny bit of hope so they don't kill themselves too quickly.

>>18392414
damn what a nice ID, /me/

Just woke up. Why is everything frozen?

>>18391612
What happened in 2018?

>>18392433
Good Friday.

>>18392427
if /me/ was a board or /biz/ thread what would it be

>>18392433
Planes crashed into NYSE everything is dead. Turn on your tv

Commence economic war on companies advertising ‘stay at hime’

I’ll never spend another cent at Burger King

>>18392470
1) why?
2) BK and their owned franchises are all trash. everything they touch gets worse, i.e. Popeye's

>>18392346
Fix
Ot
Ragain
Dtony

>>18392470
What is wrong with japanese noblewomen?
If you got one, you stay with that.

>>18391372
>Cobalt can be recycled
In an extremely costly process because we've forced higher capacity on li-ion batteries at the expense of recyclability.
>Lithium can't
Who cares? Even with all the current salt deposits in (which could be more than what we already know), we won't come anywhere close to depleting 40% of the total Earth crust abundance. Besides, the lithium isn't "lost", it's just a lot harder to recycle.
>Muh new cathodes
Call me back when those iron flouride cathodes are in a production vehicle. Otherwise, I don't give a shit.

>>18392433
Rebirth of the god baby and the proclamation of E.Bunnie

>>18392488
good one, my favorite of these is:
Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious

I don't understand it why day trading with TA is considered a meme.

>>18392444
i'll reply for you trips.
https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2018/july/how-fed-reducing-balance-sheet
essentially the fed announces that it'll start unwinding its sheets in the earlier part of the year and indexes took a dump, then EOY it seemed like a panic over the unwinding took over and tanked everything from september into december. not sure if there were other underlying factors here, but it was definitely not pretty. I wasn't invested, so it felt good, but the "V" shape return everyone desperately seems to want right now is what seemed to happen then.

>>18392487
Bc they’re pushing social groupthink which is effectively war on freedom and devoid of rational thought

>>18392538
hi /pol/, market isn't open today so you should head on back to your containment

>>18390444
Based edition, and best trips too!

>>18390608
I have a bunch of homework due Sunday (I'll have my BSME by the end of the month), but I'll probably spend good portion of the morning reading one of the gospels because its been a few years since I went to church anyways

the question is, which has the best Easter narration, Mathew, Mark, Luke, or John?

>>18392384
Now THAT is good humor I appreciate.
I got one too, listen.
So this guy walks out of a party and wants to go home. He's pretty smashes, so he goes through the graveyard as a shortcut. It's pretty dark and he falls in a new fresh hole. He tries to get out but he can't. "Well, I can't get out, so might as well lay down and sleep the night out here".
So this other guy goes stumbling through the cemetary, also pretty hammered. He walks past the open hole and sees the guy shivering and laying there with his arms crossed.
-What are you doing down there?
-Just trying to sleep this through, but it's really cold down here
-Then why'd ya dig yourself open num-nuts?

>>18390500
love u 2

>>18390608
I'm visiting the gf. Will drink, get high, and sodomize her this holy day. Probably have steak for dinner too, it's literally thawing in the fridge.

>>18392557
delusional tranny

>>18392557
Nah I’m more biz than u you little shit

Never speak to me or my step son ever again

>>18392557
why isn`t it open?????

>>18392433
Market holiday. Pay attention to calendars next time. Hope you made peace with your 3-day weekend position yesterday.

>>18392134
based roast poster
keep fighting the good fight

>>18392602
Jermone isn't taking the weekend off... right?

>>18392623
Jerome is currently searching for long positions when he gets the green light to buy the fuck out of the NYSE

>>18392602
I had my Goy liquidate everything in my RH and buy as many $5 USO calls he could right before close yesterday.

I don't want to sell my oil stocks! This is my first win and I want to take it higher AHHHHH

>>18392098
Same but also looking at other fibb targets. The current 50% retracement level would give us 5-3- pattern which is much more common than the 5-5- patterns so I am looking for a pullback Monday. Only sign I am worried about is an elevated DIX rating late last week. Why do you think the 3rd wave will only be down 1k points? Wave C is usually as big as Wave A.

>>18392562
Luke or John are best gospels.

will oil price go up already or what?

>>18392444
they pumped the same money into the market

>>18392701
>he is not informed

>>18391578
>and the amount of money being pumped into the economy is less than has been destroyed via the shutdown, making the inflationary risk extremely low.
inflation is when there is a lot of dollars in circulation. If fags don't spend their money because they are at home that doesn't mean that there are less dollars

>>18392701
Why did oil get so popular here?

>>18392731
Inflation is when prices rise. Having more dollars can cause prices to rise but having more dollars in circulation does not necessarily lead to inflation.

>>18392701
Unless Trump has a last-minute change of heart and embraces our Mexican bretheren, thou art most fucked

>>18392771
people got memed into buying. bunch of retards bought the top, made another shitty general with their zoomercore shit "oilchads general" and then got shat on yesterday when it fell

They have no idea what they are doing.

>>18392781
>having more dollars in circulation does not necessarily lead to inflation
In theory this is true but I honestly don't know of a single historical case where that happened.
Especially with low interest rates, it is impossible to keep demand low enough to beat the money supply pressure to inflation.

>>18392701
Not anytime soon. But I theorise you could throw 100 bucks at a few oil companies, forget about it, then pluck them in like 2-5 years when they've grown into little 400 dollar babies. May well go further down in the short term though. I expect massive volatility in the oil industry. Basically a trade/production/manipulation three way war.

Anyone with good resources to fundamentals and technical analysis pertaining to trading?

Why aren't you a professional gambler, /biz/?

>>18392814
Mexico is about to get fucked hard by Corona. They are going to treat it as a nothing burger. This will give the cartels free reign to disappear as many people as they want. Invest in Mexican rape tunnels.

>>18391438
>>18392433
>yes, shut down the markets on Friday, and don't let anon know about it!

>>18392834
You can only get those kinds of returns if oil companies start failing and there is consolidation. And as a political matter they will be bought up by the Fed same as the cruise lines, air lines, your mother, etc.

>>18392859
Are people really dumb enough to not keep up with holidays?

what about the global recession then? what about coronavirus pandemic? are these also canceled?

>>18392839
See beginning of each /smg/

>>18392847

Markets are risky and akin to gambling... except with much larger upside and no house effect severely limiting your wiggle room and income. People who go all in on casino careers are ultimately retards that could spend that energy getting filthy rich in stocks or business.

>>18392433
we celebrate the crucifying and killing of Jesus for some reason with the free day from work

>>18392869
yeah, my portfolio is literally back up to pre-corona right now

>>18392868
buy high, sell low isn't a meme, its a mantra of /biz/. Understand what you are "working" with here.

>>18392850
Are you referring to vaginas?

>>18392868
Yes. You can even say it a thousand times and they'll still ask. Why i stopped writing manuals for IT.

>>18390564
You just need to devalue your currency more than the stocks.

>>18392822
>he didn't sell the top
lol

>>18392822
Makes sense. I've been trading oil for roughly a year now and have only taken like 7 trades, oil is famous for being very volatile and hard to trade so the gamblers going into oil now will wipe their accounts out even faster kek'd

>>18392891
Yeah, I've seen the sticky. A glossary is good to get started but I was looking for something more structured.

>>18390969
Go all in

>>18392598
https://www.nyse.com/markets/hours-calendars
No excuse, retail tard

>>18390444
The fuck is this rally? Everyone expecting a bailout or is the stock small enough to manipulate and shorts are getting squeezed?

>>18392923
I did, I assume you can't read.

Is there anything cringier than "christians" gambling with stocks and crypto, yet think they're the "good christian"?

Hell yeah the Govt checks start rolling out next week. 2400 richer soon..

>>18391182
He said progressing towards. All that means is that things will be heading in the right direction. Nice reading comprehension.

>>18392929
>I was looking for something more structured.
that requires money and someone willing to teach

>>18392941
No, probably not. I feel ashamed squandering my money in the stock market. I am aware that it's degenerate af. But I need to make gains so I don't have to wagecuck as hard.

>>18392960
Kneel

>>18392896
Oh there's a house effect, and it's on your team right now.

>>18392973
to God what is God's, to Powell what is Powell's

Half the traders on here would have done better simply buying SPY on the dip.

>>18393004
kek

Usury is a buzzword for people who lack quantitative reasoning skills.

>>18392934
I'm a brainlet stock market guy and can't figure out why my portfolio is literally back to pre corona levels. Aren't we supposed to be suffering now?

>>18392771
Most here are faggot gamblers and not long holders so they buy in like retards, loser, and sell, all while buying at the top like usual.

anybody know how the g20 oil summit went?

>>18393043
Jerome Powell is literally torching all aspects of a portfolio to boost the stock market alone.

>>18393042

>>18393081
I have no idea what that means

>>18392925
He's wrong and you're a retard if you have 'been trading oil for roughly a year' and have no idea what's going on with oil right this moment. The only gambler becomes you, even /smg/'s usual tards are more legit traders than you.

HEY FED
How about you inflate this?!
*unzips dick*

>>18392941
yeah i just want to lose all my savings to inflation

Just found this channel, seems pretty clear and concise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS2y6Qardbs&list=PLXWi52aRZnNEl1aL4ag3t0CFfDY_U7k69&index=2&t=0s

>>18393098
The only safe haven for investments right now is stocks. For corporations, for hedge mangers, and for individuals. Everything else - real estate, bonds, commodities, etc.- are trash.

>>18393129
>bonds are trash
explain

>>18392667
>fibb targets

first of all, it will never stop bothering me that people put literal astrology shit like Fibonacci and Elliot Waves in the same category as objective metrics like moving averages and volume-weighted oscillators measuring accumulation and distribution power. secondly, 50% is not a fucking fibb line you dumb shit, it's just half way.

a little disappointed there's no bear, bull and wojak memes for me to enjoy today. maybe i should get some work done instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8bOCLJL9D8

https://www.euromomo.eu/index.html

>>18393129
Thanks. It was kind of like that before this too, right? I mean only reason I got into stocks in the first place was really that everything else was paying jack shit.

>>18393101
Ah yes, because people asking if the price of oil will pump or dump on the open (like anyone knows that) knows more than people that have actually traded oil and takes conservative entries because they know that oil is very volatile. The fact that you deny it being very volatile speaks for itself, you're just beyond retarded

>>18393098
market was dipping heavily before corona. Some say it was simple correction while others say it was the due market cycle of recession (It is due).

"Corona made everything crash" is what they say when in reality it is simply the most valid excuse and perfect storm. The best way to react to a recession chosen by those in power is to not let it happen by reacting as fast as possible and not 1 year down the line, hence jeromes printer.

Nothing makes "sense" in what to invest in and the only guarentee we have is that the fed will do literally anything to not let the economy crumble as the creaky floor has already given way (corona) and rather hold everything up with unprecedented QE and then I imagine some plan to ease a rework (rebuild the floor) as we come out of it as to not let everything all throug the floor that doesn't exist right now.

wololo

>>18393291
You think this will correct more?

I know during a reverse split the value of my investment remains the same, just fewer shares (12600 pre split turns into 504 post split but the value equals the same dollar amount) but still. 12600 shares x a hypothetical 4 a share would be 50,400 v.s a 504 x 4 = 2016. So on a physiological point the pre split would seem to be better

I love this channel.

>>18393119
Looks like the usual scam

>>18393341
I have no idea, and wont guess with money. For oil it depends on if china can get up and running again, reinfection is a thing but how much of a thing it is no one knows.

As for the Fed and the Stock Market, who the fuck knows, we are over 8 trillion in stimulus in just over 3 weeks of lockdown so whether there is a moment of "stop" for jeromes printer, remains to be seen.
They can keep pumpimp the market, but the longer they do it the lower the DXY will get as other nations stabalise with less dramatic stimulus.

>>18393393
Nah, I've already seen a couple of his videos despite having a link to the usual 'membership' and 'guides'. His free videos alone are pretty informative, well-made and pretty clear. I actually learned more from this than the chink slut that is being worshipped by some anons here that outright endorsed her own 'private circle' which was ironic since her entire premise is that those are scams.

>>18393504
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>>18393504

nexto

>>18393504
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>>18393504
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>>18393417
>so whether there is a moment of "stop" for jeromes printer, remains to be seen.

it literally doesn't exist. the "stop" is world war 3, aside from that QEInfinity is a literal definition of what's happening. it will be the case as long as the USD is the world reserve currency and that's backed up by our military might. the "stop" would be when anyone in the world wants to test our military might, basically. so, we can print as much as we want forever, or WWIII, there is no inbetween.

>>18393417
Yeah I mean eventually they are going to have to stop printing money, right? I mean you can get paid 24/hr to sit at home right now

Western governments are beginning to enter the China stage of cognitively dissonance — "it's not happening". The U.S. is desperately pushing to re-open the country in what is truly the beginning of a pandemic because "the weekly numbers look better" — neglecting to mention that the only reason the numbers look better is because the country is closed. I don't think reality will dissuade them and, for a time, like China, they may be able to get away with ignoring the problem and corralling people into their offices.

Problem is that in China all the border cities with Russia are now on Wuhan-style lockdown because of cases pouring in. Any absence of restrictions or relief of restrictions leads to unmitigated spread. Because it's everywhere and the infected are constantly going in and out of different regions. You can't be assumed 'safe' just because you got over a first wave or are far from the action.

>>18393193
Garbage interest rates compared to how they used to be.

>>18393265
You're so retarded you're not even aware an oil war is going on despite "trading oil for a year". Everyone else on /smg/ knows that but somehow you don't. And you think you're the smart one here. Truly amazing larp.

>>18391823
>unironically dead
Big brain worried about fiat money with no economy, lel