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>>18374890
looks bullish to me

>>18374880

Do you even research anon?

Corpo's are waiting in line to build on Ethereum that is what all this Auditing is about.

Corpo's need more then 15 Transactions per second. Ethereum 2 will deliver.

Some fucking wack plans are in the works on Ethereum. Real dystonian shit like Vaccine certificates and Biometric ID's.

Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkT0uIUSdWs=938s

And then this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aR7cz30chE

Also watch chino the only shitcoin he shills is chainlink rest is 100% legit.

So ya Forced biometric Blockchain Vaccine Certificates on Ethereum is Definitely bullish lol

>>18375356
i see..

>>18375508

Ignore the fact that is sounds like schizo babble for a second and check it out.

Ethereum Enterprise Alliance is the clear winner here. I follow the Corpo's not the masses so Ethereum will win imho

>>18375767
>I follow the Corpo's not the masses so Ethereum will win imho
Then why do you think link is a scam kek

>>18375356
Are I as confused as you am?

all fine, but Ether (ETH) has to be low , else the gas costs will rocket, which makes it pointless

>>18374880

Thats a woman. True name Vitalika

btw I do hold some chainlink as well, but mostly eth. I hold no other coin, but thinking of getting a small amount of xmr, since it's the crypto with most actual use nowadays (buying in black markets)

>>18375814
Because i am a Blockchain Dev and i already know Hyperledger systems directly plug into Ethereum so Oracles have no need of LINK.

Also Vitalik told me it was a scam and that half the Ethereum dev's were in on it. thb i am a little salty i did not get invited to the chainlink whale dump club.

>>18374880
Make it to a psychiatric hospital yes !

>>18374880

did you realize that you're supposed to invest in a decentralized currency or else it's worth $0? how is it decentralized if you're investing in 1 person KEK fuckin noobs when will you guys learn

>>18375905

I am panik buying Ethereum in fear.

Only those with High IQ's can see tell real doom porn from fake schizo shit.

Mark my words the dollar is going to shit the bed because russia will not stop pumping oil and this lock down will last most of the year. It will last until Bill Gates has one of the many Vaccines he has funded out of FDA trials. probably mRNA-1273 as it is the furthest along.

Bill Gates Will pair the Vaccine with the ID2020 Biometrics and bam just like that Ethereum has on boarded a ton of users through mandatory vaccines.

Corpo's start using Ethereum as the dollar collapses. Brian Brooks helps it along by putting the Dollar on the ERC-20 standard.

Brian Brooks is the CLO at coinbase who did USDC or at least he was until he became the second most powerful man in the FED and he wont stop talking about "Digital Dollars"

Ur all sheep. Us blockchain dev's want you to buy the shitcoins so it dilutes your economic power in the future.

at least post a current picture of vitalik, money skelly is now money swole

>>18374880
Depends on when you put your entire worth into the hands of that man.

>>18376484
https://www.pbo-dpb.gc.ca/web/default/files/Documents/Reports/RP-1920-033-S/RP-1920-033-S_en.pdf

Canada says Russia will pump and lockdowns most of the year. We all know we can trust Canada over our own government.

No you will not, because pow is all that matters.

>>18374880
Good choice. I recently sold all my BTC for ETH and can sleep better now.

>>18374880
>>18374880
You're not the only one. 287 ETH here. Trying to get to 500 before the golden bullrun.

>>18376596
>++IQ
thanks but I knew that already

>>18374880
>my entire networth in the hands of this man
Put it in his rectum instead lol

>>18376575
Proof of work is garbage come on now. Don't be stupid.

>>18376484
I should have sold my etherium when it was 1,400. It will never go that high again.

>>18376629
And your argument is what?

>>18376633

*Anon buys magic internet money controlled by speculators and wonders why the price dumps on him*

Enterprise Ethereum Alliance adoption is all waiting until Eth 2. No one in their right minds would build on a network that chokes on retarded inbred cats at 15 Transactions per second.

Ethereum 2 will put Paypal Mastercard and Visa combined to shame with its Transactions Per second capacity.

I would buy and keep buying regardless of the price. When the Corpo's add actual value to the main net the speculators will die off

>>18376741
you're pretty based anon

>>18376741
Eth 2.0 is never coming. Pure vaporware

>>18376714
Lets use Bitcoin for example.

Bitcoin used to be great until China built ASIC miners. Now one company makes all the miners and 80% of the mining is pooled in China with 57% in Sichuan alone.

CCP could literally shit on Bitcoin whenever it pleases them. Also PoW wastes Electricity for no reason.

POS allows for far better decentralization and makes attacking the network a very bad idea because of slashing.

Under pos you may be able to slow the network down for a few hours but you would lose so much Ethereum and have to buy more repeatedly until you were bankrupt for little results other then making Ethereum more valuable.

How many ETH to make it? I have 320 but do I need more?

>>18376741
>No one in their right minds would build on a network that chokes on retarded inbred cats
It is astounding that that isn't a metaphor.

>>18376800
3200 has always and will always be the minimum suicide stack

>>18376778
actually they move the schedule up and you can already move Ethereum into Ethereum 2.0 we are just waiting on all the clients to get on the network so they can plug it in to the Current Ethereum

Do you even Follow Vitalik?

>>18376855
What are you talking about? ETH 2.0 is not even close to be released.

>>18376855
Where do I buy ETH 2

>>18376800

10 nodes will make u rich bro. The market cap of Ethereum will mirror the sum total of all tokenized assets.

>>18376888
you can move between the networks with a siphon here
https://prylabs.net/participate

you can start earning money right now if you want. This testnet system will eventually hook into Ethereum.

>>18376795
That's some bluepilled shit right there, you have listened too much these ''experts''

>>18377036
Bro if the chinese wanted to fuck ur day you would have to take the whole thing offline while the nonexistent bitcoin dev's tried to figure out how to change the HASH to resist the chinese ASIC's. By the time that all got done Bitcoin will have been getting fucked for so long the value would plummet.

Prove me fucking wrong POW is flawed

>>18374880
yes

>>18376484
You're the dude who works in the vaccine industry, ehh?

Any value in the ETC I’m holding?

>>18377105
>Proof that Proof-of-Work is the only solution to Byzantine Generals' problem
https://gist.github.com/oleganza/8cc921e48f396515c6d6

>>18377105
The problem you are focusing isn't considered even a real problem in the real world, it's just made problem by the kikes and else

>>18376741
What is the TPS capacity of ETH2 ?

>>18377377
https://crypto-markets.news/news/vitalik-confirms-160k-tps-possible-with-zktech-loopring-&-chainlink/383

https://www.fxstreet.com/cryptocurrencies/news/vitalik-buterin-wants-ethereum-to-scale-from-15-to-100-000-transactions-per-second-201903211025

Theoretically 160k/tps, fucking kek. This always makes me laugh, it's very high ''maybe'', and it also isn't near enough to run anything. Ethereum is flawed and doomed system. Pic related, and it's just beginning, we're talking billions of transactions per second in 10 years.

>>18374880
Ethereum is not a good investment because its supply is limitless, it is only good for programmers who want to create a new company, but as a currency it keeps losing value compared to Bitcoin.

>>18376596
You will regret that.

>>18377561
Bullshit. Look at how bitcoin cash is fucking dying right now after the halving. Every halving that occurs kills the chain slowly, and all of them will eventually die. Transactions alone cannot sustain the network using Proof of Work.

>>18377177
never said i did. I work in a FDA regulated industry we only have a low level bio lab mostly for testing food for pathogens.

Fantom literally made this coin obsolete. BRICS talks, 5 confirmed banks. Proven tps. Mass government partnerships. Alls I’m saying is look for your self or say scam and stay poor

>>18377561
eth's inflation rate will be lower than post halving bitcoin tho

>>18377608
Bitcoin Cash is crap, at least Ethereum is a platform for smart contracts, Bitcoin Cash is just a shitcoin, like all of the other Bitcoin forks.

>>18377377
>>18377483
This

Basically Paypal can Do 500 TPS, Mastercard 2500 TPS, Visa 1500 TPS

So anon retarded Ethereum will already be able to eat Mastercard, Visa and paypal alive when it launches.

>>18377608

Meh, then why has Bitcoin risen after each halving?

Comparing Ethereum and Bitcoin is pointless. Apples and oranges.

OP, if you want the best coins to invest in then think of the most necessary projects supporting the infrastructure of this space.

The only two right now that are absolutely necessary for enterprise developement is ETH and LINK. Everything else sucks and is replaceable.

If you want to support the infrastructure of Crypto itself and the exchanging of Value or Defi then SNX and LRC. Everything else sucks and is replaceable.

Bitcoin will be meaningless once Governments step in and demand exchanges get rid of BTC pairs. Not BTC itself just the pairs since governments will want all crypo paired to their respective digital currency. If the exchange wants to be regulatory compliant and open to the citizens of that said country everyone will follow.

good luck.

>>18377696
I think staking will be more popular then mining. Buying ASIC miners has little utility but all you need to "mine" Ethereum is Ethereum and that can later be resold.

>>18377788
you lost all credibility when you mentioned LINK

idk how many times i have to say this but the guy is a know Exit scammer just look at his last project NXT.

>>18374880
Considering he's an autistic, uggo half-robot I'd say yes. He's the right one for the job.

>>18374880
OPs a smart man and will be making big bucks staking.

>>18377788
The law is coming, yes. I recommend you read this very, very carefully.

>>18377821

Youve lost all credibility not acknowledging LINK.

Without Chainlink there is no purpose for smartcontracts other than trading tokens with your internet buddies.

If you can't see this you have no idea why you are in the blockchain space.

>>18377890
And if you think this is a meme, you should start studying the subject before it's too late.

>>18377890
>>18377962
I'm just saying this is not the first ''ico mania'' there has been. In the first one people went to the prison, and people now has been doing exactly the same things as people then.

>>18377890
If Satoshi Nakamoto is telling us to buy bitcoin BSV lets buy it, he knows everything, we all are ignorant idiots, we need him to guide us. lel

>>18377923
Vitalik told me Chainlink is a scam and half the dev's are in on it. All you have to do to get shill bux is put a chinlink logo somewhere in ur Git repo

You have no idea how these systems function. Hyperledger is opensource and no one needs a LINK token to force all oracle's into a Oracle aggregator system.

Its like DeFi with a Airswap token
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/airswap/

Have you ever head of Uniswap?

Whats to stop someone from just making a decentralized oracle aggregator with out a useless shitcoin tacked on it.

the idea of LINK is solid but the token is not useful and that is where everyone is getting lost.

>>18378022
Well, the whole industry is grounded from his invention, and now he is explaining how the things really are and what's the reality, and people are not listening. It's going to be an ugly motherfucking shitshow what is coming.

>>18377483
>>18377758
That's nice.
This would make a huge difference compared to the current state and could change in a very short time the shape of the economy.
Do we have an estimate of how many TPS would be needed to run the derivative markets using ETH2/ChainLink ?

It's funny to see Vitalik answer a question from ChainLinkGod.
Does he not care because of his autism, or did he give up on ignoring Link and its community ?

>>18378172
>It's funny to see Vitalik answer a question from ChainLinkGod.
Link to that?

>>18378218
It's in the first news posted by >>18377483
Also here on twitter:
https://twitter.com/StarkWareLtd/status/1214236179551412232

>>18377483
>>18378172
You can avoid bitcoin now, but the longer you avoid it, the more it hurts when it hits you.

>>18378280
Thanks!

>>18374890
That looks so dire.

>>18374880
Believe the skelly. BE the skelly. LOVE the skelly

>t. Gavin

Oh God
I looked at Vitalik's twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1248220241014001666

It's somehow extremely funny I don't get why.

>>18378164
kek

>>18378172

160k Transactions per second would probably handle most of wall street but i do not think we are going to have to worry about that.

If you study Blockchain Economics it has a Bias against fiat and speculators so most of the economic activity would be relegated to those who have actual goods and services to tokenize quite quickly.

Think about it this way Ethereum is a system of money that does away with money in its entirety. The only things that have value are actual things like security guards or Iphones and if you make Iphones you can tokenize them and instantly swap the Iphones for anything else because all value on the Blockchain is determined by exchange rate between tokenized assets.

Its like a form of capitalism that only favors corporations because only they have the power to create meaningful wealth.

Arbitrage opportunities would be pretty shallow in this kind of system. Anyone attempting to profit on speculation would have to be investing in supply chain related tokens rather then traditional financial instruments.

The entire idea of investment will become drastically different and far smaller of a market then it is today. The only real way to win in this system is to be the most efficient at producing goods and services to offer on the Blockchain

>>18378043

You sir have no idea what you are talking about.

1. Hyperledger has integrated Chainlink and stated it is the default oracle for Avalon

Please don't lecture me on swaps. Yes, used them all.

What you dont realize is that Enterprises will never use a unregulated unauditable Oracle for enterprise solutions.

Again, we are tallking about Enterprise adoption. The word "Enterprise" changes everything. Regulatory compliance and Auditability is the Key. Uniswap is not that.

>>18376443
Imagine having a stop loss when it's very likely to decline 50% in one day then surge back in matter of minutes.

>>18377890
Oh dear lord. Crypto has not yet hit a bottom when I still see people shilling BSV or even XRP.

>>18378547
Ur nutz no Corpo's are going to use some Shitcoin with 80% whales in control when they can just list their oracle on another service

>>18378460
Smart contracts would allow smaller entities to get benefits that were reserved for bigger companies until now due to the reduction in price and increased efficiency.
Instead of reducing the amount of contracts it could probably increase it due to the new use cases it allows.
It's hard for a smaller company to get a loan from a bank to invest in something for example.
But with this they could make a contract on the blockchain and directly access the market without the need of an intermediate, in a similar way to crowdfunding.

It's hard to tell how blockchain economics would change the shape of the current system.
But the idea behind the SWIFT/Link and similar integrations was to connect both worlds in order to be able to copy the existing contracts to a new platform without having to change their content.

>>18379100

There are lots of companies that can make this happen and are actually part of the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance.

Take ur pick

>>18379191
notice the lack of Chainlink

>>18378925

Wow, how far out of the loop are you?

You do realize that the largest corporations have already integrated with Chainlink such as Oracle, Google etc..

Also, they are spearheading the Ethereum Enterprise alliance. Which means Every damn Corporation in the world that wants to connect to Ethereum will do so through Chainlink.

>>18379206
The key will be to see which is easier to use and available first with a bigger adoption.
https://youtu.be/4GK1NDTWbkY?t=271

The path of least resistance is an interesting concept for technical solutions.
The easier to use product will be more widely used and get more support.

The ETH2 network will show quickly where this goes.

>>18379191

Chainlink is tasked to onboard all of the EEA enterprises.

Ive done enough spoonfeeding. Your so far behind you don't even know where this space is going.

>>18379206

You can take your foot out of your mouth just about now.

>>18379191

ctrl + f

https://entethalliance.org/eea-mainnet-working-group-forms-task-force-eminent-ethereum-mainnet-integration-for-enterprises/

I am currently looking up the existing implemented projects for hyperledger:
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/

The most advanced project for what we can compare is probably Quilt
https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/quilt/Hyperledger+Quilt

If we take a look at their interledger implementation (see picture):
https://www.hyperledger.org/blog/2019/11/01/announcing-hyperledger-quilt-v1-0-interledger-for-the-java-platform

It uses Java which is incompatible with a 100% real time execution rate, and only uses abstract test wallets and transfer functions.
They would at least need to get a message directly with SWIFT to execute money transfers in the real world, which means they have a dependency on the solution chosen by SWIFT for this implementation.

>>18376741
Based zeta poster

>>18378606
You are so bluepilled it's hard to believe, especially if you have been visiting /biz/ more than a year.

Please watch these, takes 10 minutes. Comment back when you've watched them.

>Bitcoin with a stable protocol takes away power ( Craig Wright AKA Satoshi Nakamoto)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2p5pxURVs

>BITCOIN SV IS BITCOIN [CRAIG WRIGHT IS SATOSHI]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyzPzlMr3Gg

>The Crypto Blackpill (Craig Wright is Satoshi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOlvOiGPPio

>>18380656

Oh jeez please stop. Just stop.

Try to understand why blockchain is relevant. Until then your stuck.

>>18379191
>>18379848
Lmao holy shit, eth maxis are the fucking worst

>>18380708
Either you are a top tier fudder, by that I mean shilling other shitcoins just to make sure no one talks about bsv, or you're just a regular sheep who have been brainwashed to thinking just like that, because man, you got think just like a cryptoCNN-guy, if I had to think one. Watch the videos man, if you're a real person.

>>18374880
this autistic man holds my future

>>18380917


I don't own any Bitcoin because I don't see the utility value in it. Why even bother with BSV. When it has its own identity crisis.

Im about Enterprise adoption. guess what? There are only 2 projects in this whole entire space that matter right now. BSV is not one of them and if your telling me that BSV CAN be relevant in the blockchain space in like a few years after they get their sh*t together and Craig Wright is done being sued and/or suing then ill reevaluate it.... in 5 years or whenever they get it together.

>>18381303
bsv already have customers, it got 5000-6000tx/s from one company only, you can imagine in a couple years what happens, it will be millions and millions of transactions per second, smoothly, all the time, guaranteed. Then you add the satoshi speculation and vola, you're a multimillionaire yourself.

>But while many blockchains are public, only BSV offered the ability to scale that EHR Data required. “Because in the end, when we’re processing all the prescriptions in the United States, we’re going to probably, it’s 4.2 billion prescriptions in the United States that get filled every year,” he said. “That’s going to generate 16 billion to 32 billion Bitcoin SV transactions. So when you look at those numbers, right, it’s an amazing rate, we’re talking 5-6 thousands transactions per second, right? So it’s huge, and that’s why we went with Bitcoin SV.”

And what the fucking hell is this?
>I don't own any Bitcoin because I don't see the utility value in it.
BSV is the only blockchain that has utility, and in the first video craig talks about the utility. Get your shit together and dyor.

>>18375926
Not if it scales and does 5000 tps. Gas costs would be cents. They are only high during congestion.

>>18376484
Real idiot right here lol

>>18377923
No company will pay link for data every few seconds. They will use centralized oracles which they can held accountable before judges and pay a flatrate.

>>18375356
no

Somehow people are talking about Ethereum EEA and Chainlink... how can you miss Unibright, the one thats about the PROCESS.