/biz/ - Business & Finance

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based and a true american hero

>>18362530
reminder: SP500 will pump up to 3000 before crashing down to 2000 in the next month. Slaughtering bears and bulls alike

>>18362530
First for I told all of you about oil and none of you listened.

can someone tell me why New York real estate stocks are going up right now? Isn't New York still on lockdown?

I was down about $100 last week because they were hitting lows and now they're bouncing back this week and I'm up $50-60 each on two of my investments

there has to be another dump coming friday or monday right? should I sell?

pRiCeD iN!1

There is a golden goose somewhere on the market right now. Find it and win!

Threads are too fast now, slow them down!

>Why didn't anyone tell me selling covered calls weekly was so comfy? Bull bro comes to my house on Monday, delivers my tasty preemies. Bull bro is left staring at the magic green line all week of for a whole month praying it goes up lots, which I fucking hate doing. If bull bro wins He buys my stock at a profit for me. He will also usually do this early, freeing me up to do it all again and get more preemies. Jesus this is great for me, it removes so much stress. I don't care about mooning stocks, I'd rather just be the guy who sells the tickets. Will I ever hit it big this way? Probably not, but once in awhile I use bull bros funds to buy me crazy cheapos like WTI or USO or cruise ships. Is this the fastest way to diversify your portfolio on silly billy corona cheapies?

How much money do I need in order to do this?

>>18362552
should we sell before the meeting?

>>18362580
having a 100 of a stock? look at mr moneybags ovah here

>>18362566
im shorting the housing market by buying SRS

>he bought the top

What are your expectations for tomorrow?
Reminder:
>Number of US & Canada unemployment claims being released
>OPEC+ deal or no deal

Well, I'll have a 5% gain by EOD tomorrow for writing a cash covered put...
Better than nothing right bros

>>18362552
i'm betting on TNK and TNP for the oil glut. how fuckt am i?

you will win your current trade, but only if you respond with huge beautiful anime ass.

>>18362565
Time to countertrade the bulltards!

>>18362607
already priced in, no matter what news are

>he bought the top

AAL CHADS RISE UP

WE'RE NEVER GOING BELOW 11 AGAIN

>>18362543
>without consent
Glad the police added this in their report, it's important to differentiate

>>18362530
I want to marry a chinese girl

Market keeps going up and I'm going bankrupt.
Nice knowing you guys. Day or rope is coming for me.

>>18362565
Unironically yes. Everyone knew that there are more "shadow layoffs". Mangers not scheduling people, people telling their landscaper to not come because now they have time to mow the lawn, illegals finally getting the shaft the deserve, any contractor who had a laid off client, etc, etc. I would say take the reported unemployment filings and add an 15-20% shadow layoff of it's number. That's a low estimate. Not to mention people who arent fulltime, and cant apply for it.

>>18362222
checked btw

>>18362616
I have both along with DHT, EURN, FRO, STNG, and LPG.

>>18362594
WTI is like 2 dollars, and someone paid me 100 dollars to hold onto 300 worth for a week. Whoever you are, please give me 100 dollars a week, I love you.

What’s up with bonds?

Gonna dump my Dave and Buster's tomorrow. What should I swap it for?

>>18362552
>>18362552 true
>>18362543 also true

>>18362600 fucking retard

>>18362638 ffs get yourself together man

>>18362580
It’s the only way to do it. Now just buy divvy stocks and focus on cash flow. Unrealized “losses” in equity don’t mean anything. Cash flow from dividends and options writing is peak comfy.

>>18362697
CHK

Thank god I didnt fall for the iron hands meme, my SPY puts would be down 90% by now..

How many of you have lost 6 figures?

>>18362638
they dont look like that.
also unless you want your sons to be school shooters you should marry your own phenotype

>>18362715
Iron hands meme isn't even applicable for options like that. It's for long hodling shares.

>>18362552
>First for I told all of you about oil and none of you listened.
Dont be so vague anon. What did you tell us? Is it going pump or dump?

>>18362731
I "lost" six figures in unrealized gains from not yolo retarding on calls.

>>18362697
Sqqq and Hold friday and through the weekend.

>>18362715
iron hands is fucking retarded. Let winners run, cut losers quickly

alright bois how fucked am I?

>>18362746
Stocks don't count.

Holy fuck I just figured out how to go around paywalls on sites. I'm a fucking genius. Just copy and paste the link into google translate and get a translation and change it to the original. Interesting article anyhow

>https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=en&tl=fr&u=https%3A%2F%2Fforeignpolicy.com%2F2020%2F04%2F08%2Feurope-coronavirus-pandemic-flattening-curve-rise-cases%2F&anno=2

>>18362743
He told you to either buy tankers and according companies and he was damn right! they even went up 16% yesterday before we knew

>>18362713
Oil is dead ..i hope no one listens to your advice. They will lose alot of money

>>18362763

Have you bought your knee pads yet?

>>18362749
are you even being serious.

>>18362763
it's over for you, once we get the unemployment report tomorrow SPY is never falling below $300 again

>>18362790
It'll come back, I doubt they'll go bankrupt. i'm down a little but nothing terrible

>>18362810
lmao do you think unemployment claims will be less than last week?

>>18362617
i forgot to mention: if you don't respond with huge beautiful anime ass, you lose your current trade. sorry lads but rules are rules.

>>18362763

Welp that was a little too aggressive with your time frame I think. This shit can remain irrational for weeks and months before we get to the next big dump. I do think you have some hope with a big chunk of earnings coming towards the end of the month.

>>18362818
good point, if they are significantly worse we might go straight to $320 tomorrow

>>18362530
holy fuck bears I apologize. futures limited down again. double breaker tomorrow. fuck.

How do I get leverage without trading options or futures? I just want to trade shares and have lots of leverage on that

What are some stocks that the market way over adjusted for during the pandemic? I’m looking at GUSH and NAIL currently.

>>18362713
Curious. It's shale, and possibly they're filing for bankruptcy. What's the outlook, because all they do is shit the bed and hemorrhage money?

>>18362839
Margin

>>18362840
wrong.

Whats the best sauce for tendies from McD's?

>>18362831
no more. gamblers will lose forever from here on out, take it as a nice addvice

>>18362853
my broker wont give me much.
i want high margins

>>18362867
>i want to lose more money than i have

>>18362839
Have you tried Leverage ETFs? 3x is decent ig

R8 my portfolio

>>18362818
every time the numbers come out the market goes green. why have you not learn this yet? if the news is bad and the market should go down, it will go up. simple.

>>18362831
?

>>18362879
no i want 27 to 1 leverage ratio

>>18362867
Use what they give you. That’s plenty.

>>18362885
Let him lose his house
Dumb fucking gamblers

No matter what happens, a simple tweet from Trump regarding oil will finish us off in green

>>18362859
Buffalo

>>18362867
Its a ratio of cash you have so put more cash in.

>>18362839
Borrow some money from a bank.

>>18362881
we going to make it

>>18362731
I've recouped my corona-chan losses already.

Turns out the economy was what was keeping the stock market back this whole time. PRINTING TO THE MOON

>>18362919
Yeah that’d do it. Then take margin out on that loan.

>>18362909
as far as oil goes, they were actually really right about speculating on tankers... it pays off now

>>18362530
Just buy and hold or sell. Why /biz/ keep gambling non stop with options?

sigh....

JEROME WINS FATALITY

>>18362607
Both bullish deal or no deal. Trump will not let market panic over 3 day weekend. No matter he lies on twitter or call Jerome they will pump 3% at least

>>18362950
options and puts is like gambling on steroids

>>18362950
If you aren’t selling calls every week you are leaving money on the table.

>>18362763
AIDS bobo

>>18362950
Options is where the big chunks of change are. Even warren Buffett has a options strategy.

>>18362735
I don't know my cousin is a Happa and is pretty Chad

>>18362950
They shouldn't! Which is the whole point,

>>18362763
Fucked tier: facialabuse

>>18362950
Because buy and hold is stuff for the slow bull market. When every day moves 4% in a ultra predictable manner then options make way more money. When it's bull or crab at most not buying some shorter term calls is losing money.

>>18362982
daily reminder that overleveraging is what causes these market crashes in the first place and what caused ronin capital to go under because of their options VIX position.

>>18362965
Either there's cuts announced and US oil goes up or there's no cuts announced and there's Trump tariffs announced. Can't lose by holding US oil

>>18362806

Unless you think everything is peachy .. which in that case just buy Boeing maybe day trade spy ..

Thats what all the normie cucks are doing ..

This market is about the implode

i have to be homeless kinda soon but it's a pandemic. I literally have no clue how I'm gonna survive. If I catch covid from a shelter I'll be like 40k in debt and if I do get covid I'd just be in the woods waiting it out and if it hailstorms as bad as it did last night being covided whilst that happens in middle of night tornados etc would be complete and utter terror. Should I just get a grindr and hustle???

Post anime ass!

>Trump opens economy end of April
>Trump-bux arrive at the same time
>Quarantine weary consumers unleash pent up demand
>Market hits ATH week after week

Search your feelings; you know it to be true

>>18362858
Interesting. What do you think?

>>18363023
it better implode tomorrow morning otherwise im financially ruined

>>18362998
Options are the best way to annihilate your money dumbass. Which again is the point

>>18362813

It wont .. Oil is cheaper than water .. you are even better off buying food stocks ..

>>18363027
Are you one of those defective people that can’t get in the military?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/saudi-wealth-fund-is-said-to-build-200-million-stake-in-equinor

>>18362950
I have a couple buy and hold accounts, a mutual fund, a more serious trading account, and a bullshit RH account for options.
Anything I make from options above a set limit goes into one of the other accounts, you can make good money with options.
It's okay to have some fun if you can compartmentalize it.

>>18363015
>VIX up to historic highs
>ronin capital thought it was a good idea to either sell puts or buy calls on it
lmao was the whole firm a bunch of degenerates?

>>18363031
i guess every anon just wants to lose their trades besides me, idk what to tell you.

>>18363031
Futures bigly green. Sorry bears you lost again.

wtf bros i thought this was a dead cat bounce
how is the market rallying with half of the country on lock-down and no end in sight?

>>18363051
weeb company name, you already know

>>18363044
In the end, yes you probably will be better off, which again is the point! Think long term. Do not think Vegas get rich overnight. It doesn't work that way you dumb faggots...

>>18363033
>ignore your dead loved ones THE MARKET MUST GO UP!

based boomer remover im thinkin BULLISH KILL THE OLD KILL THE OLD KILL THE OLD

>>18363033
>second wave of corona sets in
>it's just as bad as before
>we re-test the lows
ah, it's all making sense now..

>>18363040
Me too brother .. we are in this together .. dow will retouch lows and maybe hit below 15 so i am holding until then

>>18363031

Canadian banks are still probably the safest investment to get a good yield, but I guess it's pretty boring. BMO, TD, and RY are all below 10 P/E and above/at 5% divvy yield

>>18363057
>no pee-pee

>>18363046
Yes and other stuff

>>18363033
>all the jobs magically come back
>everyone suddenly has no debt
>all rent and mortgages forgiven for 3 months
>businesses just don't have to pay off loans
This clown market is inconceivable.

>>18363033
how long until airlines get to ath again? same time?

>>18363078

Youre the faggot who wants to get fucked by a failing industry. But go ahead be my guest .. you deserve to get your ass fucked nigger

>>18363023
>>18363040

We have been saying that since the beginning of march and the first big crash happened. The market is being fueled by speculation, jerome, and Trumps cheerleading. How can we keep reliably saying for this many weeks in a row that bear fund is something to buy and hold over the weekend when its been bull signals all week.

Considering buying Samsung tomorrow if things are down. thoughts boyos.

>>18363051
does it matter? the stock market is a game of risk management, and they lost. never forget that. it's not about 1 trade it's about how you do over 100+ trades with consideration for whatever your risk to reward ratio is. literally every single time you enter a trade, you HAVE to have a point at which you cut your losses, usually determined via a stop loss. if you don't, you end up like ronin capital apparently.

>>18363047
Equinor has some good North Sea stuff and their rebranding as full energy suite has some promise. But their divy sucks, and they really havent done as well as others but intrigued by this.

>>18363125
on second thought airlines are reaping MAJOR profits rn because their fuel costs are down 75%. they should reach ath even before they open back up.

Holy shit why is nobody talking about Intel? At their height today they reached February levels again, who the fuck is pumping this so hard? Is buying puts on this basically free money?

Just went all fucking in on AAL and RTX

what color Corvette should i order?

Say Jerome or Priced one more time faggots I dare you

>>18363140
How do you invest in Samsung?

>>18362552
Bought oxy just wish I bought more

>>18362840
MFA

>>18363121
something you have to understand in all this: debt doesn't matter. the FED can print infinite money. all that matters is the virus and whether or not people can actually go back to work. that's literally the single thing that matters. i repeat THAT'S THE LITERAL ONE SINGLE THING THAT MATTERS NOTHING ELSE.

get back in the fucking cage, wagie. everything else can be fixed with brrrrrr. remember that. remember that for the rest of your life, that's how important this fact is. remember it. no seriously, remember it. if this was just another 2008 this would be over in a week, not even.

>>18363152
Easier said than done fren.
It's in our nature to chase losses.

>>18363152
Sure they did a hugely risky play with hugely rewarding possibilities
But what investment firm sees VIX hanging around 80 and says "yeah baby i want some calls on that bad boy"
There's risk management, and there's doing some real stupid shit, stop losses or not.

>>18363042
Maybe in a fair market. In this only up market there isn't any risk if you don't bet for next month.

>>18363170
Jerome just priced you in

>>18363164
aal was barely surviving before the crash. why not go for an airlines with a better balance sheet and less debt, and less exposure to international flights. are you fucking retarded.

>>18363191
and yet they're considered "the pros". think about that for a moment.

>>18363107
*curbs your erection*

Its done man, I lost what, 1.8k aka all but 200 dollars of the money I put in trying to makes plays that seemed logical. Can't fight the Fed, I really should have taken trump at his word about the V shaped recovery.

That being said, all this is doing is pushing back what should have happened now until after Trumps presidency is over, whether now or in 2024.

>>18363170
>Say Jerome or Priced one more time faggots I dare you

is this priced in?

>>18363175
i'm an idiot

>>18363196
Not concerned at all. AAL has the second best fundamentals of all the airlines and minimal debt

>>18362987
What usually happen to the market when lots of people start to trade options?

>>18363015
The crashes are caused by the cheap credit, not options traders fault people are stupid.

>>18363185
It does matter. It happens all the time. FED cannot buy all debt.

>>18363219
they literally have the worst balance sheet and most debt

>>18363218
can buy a Korean ETF listed on the American stock exchange and those tend to have at least 10% of their holdings be in Samsung

>>18362950
This. Half this general has never even owned an underlying security. Just pissing away their wealth with SPY puts.

>>18363057
>Futures bigly green
Not anymore.

>>18362564
new york real estate is the most shady shit ive ever seen in my life. i know this 80 y/o russian who made tens of millions on getting the tip for the WTC back in the day and selling the land back to port authority. now he owns a few businesses including a turbine business and alexander hamilton's old bar (now a 7 story bldg) near the oculus behind trinity church. he fucking ripped the gate off of some 18th century european estate, made it gold and put it on the bar which he remade into a shitty fucking titty bar called "the pussycat lounge". tackiest italian marble matching on the floor, walls, and ceiling... he wanted to turn the upper 3 floors into what would be an unavoidably racist, indian themed club and couldnt understand when we told him two slow ass elevators with 8 person capacity would not work. only had a few meetings with him but he popped bubble wrap when at his desk, had a chad-framed assistant and brags about getting calls from deb lasio before any real estate legislation which would effect him passes

People are misunderstanding what this rally is.
This rally is because of people starting to think that the coronavirus isn't that bad. The original thought process was up to a 5% casualty rate and hundreds of millions if not billions infected. Instead, it's starting to look like no more than a hundred to two hundred infected with a casualty rate similar to the flu. And, more importantly, it really does seem to be killing only the old and sick for the most part.
That last part is probably why the rally is so strong, actually. Think about it, old and sick people don't contribute much at the end of the day. Their deaths will decrease pension pressures on multiple businesses and free housing for younger and more consumption hungry people.
Whether all of this will come true is another matter, of course. I have no idea if it will and I suspect people have a bit too rosy a picture of all that's going on. But who knows, I'm hardly a genius economists. Maybe things really aren't that bad.
>>18362813
The problems with CHK have nothing to do with oil and everything to do with gross mismanagement on the part of it's CEO.

>>18363258
kek

>>18363262
Don’t forget black people. It kills black people.

>>18363249
Naked options are for compulsive gamblers, but covered are both the best existing risk management strategy bar none, and a massive FREE money-making endeavor.

>>18363283
This is why the stock market is going up. Less niggers is a good thing.

Should sex offenders kill themselves?

>>18363258
>new york real estate is the most shady shit ive ever seen in my life.
You've never looked at canadian real estates huh.

>>18363234
they basically can, whether you like the idea of that or not. the issue is that people literally can't run the machines because of coronavirus. ask yourself if all of this would be happening in any situation where people aren't more or less locked in their homes? specifically told not to go to work if they aren't essential?

think about if this was any situation where people could still run the machines. that's all the elite need us for, and we currently can't do that, that's why we're in a "crisis" right now.

>>18363262
How bullish is this?

>>18363327
Trump 2020

>>18362564
Yea I got a lot of REITs that are green as fuck right now and I am wondering the same thing.

Jerome comes to my house and prices me in every night.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I
HATE
IT

On corporate debt buying:
>The businesses that need the support the most are the ones least likely to pay it back
>The gov't has told the banks that any money they have left to SUPPORT THE MORTGAGE/REAL ESTATE businesses
>Small caps are leading the way and if we're going higher it depends on them pulling the market higher

EVERY
FUCKINNG
THING

EVERYTHING I'VE DONE HAS BEEN THE WRONG THING!!!!

Infinite QE can never stop or it'd cause the crash it was implemented to delay

The fuck even makes futures change?

Bears are so fucking stupid

>>18363322
You're missing one crucial factor. Sure, the Fed can print more money, but that money goes to the BANKS. You think the banks are sharing that with the plebs? Fuck no, you better keep paying your credit cards, loans, and mortgages!

>>18362566
here's a hint, it's jblu

>>18363361
Gamblers betting on tomorrow.

>>18363367
How do I get in on that

>>18363339
My NRZ and NLY shot right the fuck up to the point I'm almost breakeven on both. Part of me says to divert the NRZ to something else on the upswing (and cheap) right now before a giant dump. Or do I hold as long as humanly possible with trailing stop losses?

>>18363365
Credit cards and mortgages are bad ass, idk what you are doing with your money.

>>18363365
you say that like im disagreeing with you. the FED can unironically "buy all debt", what they can't do is create work without workers. if people can't actually physically do the work they need to do, no amount of money printing will solve that, do you get it? why do you think there is such a push for people to go back to work ASAP? think about it, it's common sense.

>>18363381
How do I get another mortgage on my house so I can bet more on options

>>18363370
You use Robinhood don’t you? Pretty sure there are big boy trading apps that let you.

>>18363327
>whole country is suffering sick and death
>America!
>turns it to a blue vs red team game entertainment

Holy fuck Mutts is a disgrace to humanity

>>18363196
What do we think about Jet Blue.

I saw they manage their asset and debt a bit better then some of the others despite only being a middleweight

>>18363301

>>18363392
If your house is worth a shit you should be getting refinance junk mail all the time offering to let you take out equity.

>>18363362
Be nice, it's gonna go down tomorrow and end the next week -10%

>>18362985
For every normal mixed race there are 10 super fucked up ones. A lot of Americans don't understand this because they think "well I'm 1/4 of four different western euro races and I'm ok". That's nothing compared to mixing with races from halfway across the world. It just makes the genetic lottery odds way worse for your kid, plus he won't have any real cultural/ethnic identity, which is not a good thing regardless of what the kikes tell you (notice the kikes are very insular themselves?).

>>18362697
I dumped all my dave and busters and bought RTX.

>>18363414
>Be nice, it's gonna go down tomorrow and end the next week -10%
I hope so. Can't wait to buy more. Bears promised me that this would drag on for months and if it turns into a V shaped recovery right back to ATH I am going to be extremely disappointed.

>>18363370
moving averages, unironically. buy reversions to the mean in an uptrend.

>>18363366
>blue ID

checks out. I have 50 shares, should I increase?

>>18363428
The infinite QE money tap has to stop at some point. We are guaranteed a W if nothing else. But really I think the future is months of slow bleeding
>bull for shorts during the week
>bear for months out
>bull for year+
Permabulls are cucks and permabears are doomer retards

>>18363387
I think we agree. They want people to go back to work or the system will crumble. However, there is still a few weeks. I don't think it will go as smoothly as they want. This week is 10 million more unemployed, and we will PUMP! The market has totally lost it, and eventually it will all come crashing down for real.

Is it too late to jump on the RTX train?

>>18363456
if it wasn't a problem to turn millions into billions and billions into trillions, what makes you think it'll stop there? one day it will be trillions into quadrillions, screencap this.

EVERYTHING is suddenly seeming SO overbought. What the fuck bros?

There's nothing to buy anymore...

I mean... GE?
Fucking GE? That's the only one that looks like it might be in a buyzone kek

>>18362587
OK. this is preddy fuggin hot tho

>>18363327
What fucking channel is this?
It's a very stupid metric... large metropolitan cities with high population density and significant exposure to international travel are obviously going to be hit the harded.
And obviously, those areas are left-leaning.

I'm so sick of EVERYTHING being politicized beyond the point of rationality.

>>18363422
Yea i'm sitting on some RTX already but I want more.

>>18363301
one of my worst encounters with the fear was shortly after dealing with titty bar owner. paterson nj is owned by 2-3 people, has a downtown mass transit link to nyc, 90s crime ridden, most of the land is owned by a single billionaire family (dad technically but son runs it), he wears izods new balances and jeans. u would never pick him off the street. they own the 19th c gilded age theater most of downtown and residential except for a massive factory owned by another dickhead who is leasing it to beyond rich wsburg 'creatives' and whoever owns fetty wap or sets up music videos of that tier, which they film there. the billionaire kid is high constantly, would be all in and reasonable to autistic and cold within a day. hes working with an israeli tech company with hq in englewood to basically reenact the Wire and im sure its going on all over the country. they make cameras which can see for over a mile in the darkness, link in police, make arrests, clear out for yuppies on a 10 year plan. he has millions of square ft in that city alone, and they have other areas on "20 and 30 year" plans. sickening shit rly, paterson is second densest urban area after nyc. basically everything is being eaten alive all the time

>>18363490
What price did you get in on. Should I wait for it to cool or jump in now?

>>18363483
this is true.

t. j titor

>>18363490
I fucked up and bought a few days ago 50 shares at $63, then ofc it dropped to like $57. I'm long on it so doesn't matter too much I guess. Hoping it'll be at least $100 end of year.

Meat

>>18362530
Today I went all in on RTX, bros.

Any biomed frens wanna give pointers to someone who just walked away from oil in the green and is looking to enter the wacky world of speculative medicine?

>>18363483
screencapped this but it came true already

>>18363079
>ignore your dead loved ones
you over dramatic faggot

>>18363033
The moment normies are allowed to flood into bars/restaurants/stadiums, it's going to flare up again hard, the hospitals will be killed and they'll have to lockdown again. China is already having this problem, although they have the benefit of not really caring, including the bug citizens.

>>18363487
Clown market, my friend.

>>18363459
im gonna be real honest with you here. i feel like they have the smartest people in the world on their payroll, and they have a vested interest in seeing things return to normal. they don't care if some boomers die, as long as (((((the elite))))) don't die. they just need the machines to be run, at not too high of a cost to cause mass panic (which would cause people to stop running the machines), but below that threshold they don't give a fuck.

they can print as much money as they want in the mean time and no one can stop them. unironically, seroiusly unironically, if the FED printed 5 quadrillion dollars, do you think anything would happen negatively? seriously, would it? no really i mean it seriously if they printed a quadrillion dollars do you think a single fucking thing would happen, mass riots and shit? no. all that matters is whether or not the unclean masses can return to running the machines. remember that. remember that. i cannot stress enough that this is the Truth of the world that you need to realize by the time you're 30 or younger. this is literally how the world operates, and you should make financial decisions for the rest of your life with this in consideration.

>>18363456
>The infinite QE money tap has to stop at some point
No, it literally doesn't. Maybe you should look up the definition of "infinite" brainlet

>>18363518
Biofag here. The number one thing to know is bio stocks trade like pump & dumps. They shouldn't, but they do. Most people trading these stocks don't understand the science and don't care to. They just chase phase x hype.

oh no bear bros

>>18363327
extremely bullish unironically

>>18363528
if you think for a second ((((they)))) wouldn't kill your parents and grandparents to maintain the status quo, you're unbelievably naive. all you have to do is put yourself in the shoes of the elite and consider what you'd do in their position, and it becomes clear as day. if you had all of the money and power in the world, in the current coronavirus situation, what would YOU do?

>>18363487
MFA

>>18363503
$55. I'm not selling but I am hesitant to buy more above $60

>>18363473
No

>>18363579
what do you think it'll go to?

>>18363537
this is fucking terrifying, both this and the fact that 99% of the population has no fucking clue. the concept that money isn't actually tied to any kind of value generation.

>>18363125
3-6 years

Its depressing lads all I wanted to do was make a little bit of money but now I'm down to 200 from 2k which just shows that I don't currently got the skills.


Oh well time to learn everything I can I'm gonna make it all back.

>tfw a stock pick you shilled because you thought it was a good deal becomes an /smg/ meme stock, but it's actually a good pick, so for the first time in history /smg/ is actually making money off a meme

>>18363589
Look at LMT and NOC's P/Es, then look at RTX

>>18363594
that's the way the world has been for a while now. if you don't position yourself accordingly, you only have yourself to blame.

>>18363487
C and KO are still pretty cheap

>>18363542
Ty. Is there anything I should familiarize myself with, such as cycles? You mention phases and I saw them for myself on BPC, is there any differences in the phases? Does it matter whether the drug has a market of a certain size?

Lastly, f you don't want to type out a book, got any reading resources?

>>18363530
eh... you've been saying that for ages. The unemployment numbers from two weeks ago being priced in made sense. The market rallying from Trump declaring a state of emergency made sense. A lot of this made sense.

Mostly I'm just sour that I messed it up so badly.

Congrats I guess to the anon who made hundreds of thousands on the dump and flipped it into cheapies. And the people who bought the inexplicable dump in RTX.

I feel like such a failure. I KNOW to buy into panic. Fuck what the hell? Am I forever doomed to lose in this life?

>>18363594
Fine, I myself will become an issuer of U.S. Monies

>>18363611
yes, basically. it's sad that most people never develop the financial education to understand this fact, or have the moral ambiguity to be able to take advantage of it instead of being taken advantage by it. the hardest part was realizing that working a day job was a scam and that ultimately one should strive to be part of the "investor class" in the modern day. assets vs. liabilities sort of stuff.

>>18363536
>>18363536
What do you think about the folks that say we should audit the fed? As a rule I don't put blind faith into monolithic institutions.

What about them gives you this confidence?

>>18363638
i didn't know it was that easy.

>>18363636

>>18363636
>priced in
Bruh, nothing is priced in.

Looks like the majority of you think its going up tomorrow. Ill be loading up on puts.

>>18363642
i don't consider it sad, because just like anything else it's survival of the fittest. if everyone had complete awareness of the situation they find themselves in, it would dilute your own ability to navigate the environment and take advantage of it. there will always be winners and losers, and your effort to research how things work should be rewarded.

fuck it i sold my shorts and bought longs

>>18363658
Doesnt even fucking matter man. Futurecucks will fuck you with a gap up, you'll get a bit of respite the morning and then they'll just pump it up.

>>18363668
What's wrong with that?

>>18363609
may just pick up 50 more shares, better upside than MSFT??

>>18363651
join me, and together we can hyperinflate the US dollar into obsolescence

>>18362549
>Slaughtering bears and bulls alike
very nice I think you've got it right

>>18363652
>What do you think about the folks that say we should audit the fed?

if it hurts the elites, they'll never let you do it. probably why it has never been done, and therefore never will be done.

>What about them gives you this confidence?

we're a technologically advanced civilization and the powers that be can put the full force of that behind solving this mess. if society collapses, all of their power and money is worthless, so it's commons sense that if you were in their shoes you would want to see things return to normal and do everything in your power to see that occur in a timely manner.

>>18363662
i agree. the sad part is that there is a lot of suffering caused to individuals out there as a result, suffering of the ignorant masses. but what can you do? my hope is that i one day make enough money to become a philanthropists and give back most of my fortune through charitable acts. that's the best i can think of. i'd never dream of trying to actually change the overall structure of things. surely even if you killed the elite, other people would just take their places, it's too coveted a position to be in in this world.

>>18363669
Everyone is going to cash out their profits for the long weekend tomorrow. as soon as it looks like its going to go anywhere near red there will be a stock dump.

>>18363629
Ugh I actually trimmed some KO many % lower because I had bought so much below $40. And I did it in my stupid fucking Robinhood account rather than my IRA with my PEP.

C though? Isn't that supposed to be one of the worst? And I'm concerned the banks will be forced to cut divvies in addition to buybacks.

Thank you for the suggestion.

>>18363408
https://globalnews.ca/news/647472/montreal-mayor-arrested-by-quebec-corruption-police/
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/05/09/former_laval_mayor_reported_arrested_amid_quebec_corruption_probe.html
Literal mafia (the actual organized crime group) and canadian mayors have been known for decades to share money one way or the other to spruce up the real estate business.
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-explosive-b-c-court-case-details-seven-migration-scams/
That's only a tiny bit of the picture, however, since when it's not literal mafia bribes, it's helping chinks illegally move their money outside china and other such scams.

>>18363603
Anon, I want you to know that this post was one of the most encouraging things I have read in /smg/. I bought at the top of crypto and lost, sold at the bottom of this crash and lost, and I've been beating myself up over both every hour of the day for the past two weeks. But somehow what you wrote made me laugh and realize things will be ok. Thanks, fren.

>>18363715
Didn't happen today.

>>18363713
>give back most of my fortune through charitable acts
that's very noble. i have been fortunate in my life, so when shit got scary i sent my sister who lost her job and thought the world was ending 5k. then i sent a local pizza joint $500 as they were delivering free food to healthcare workers. i can't say that i care about everyone, but where i draw my tribal lines i will ensure i will do my best for them.

>>18363547
Is it really hcq, or is it hcq+ami?

>>18363139
Nobody is actually trading. These rises are actually nonsensical and driven by remarkably low volumes. Everyone is super reluctant right now.

>>18363653


>>18363662
Alright throw me a bone and give me a place to start. Time to quit anime and other distractions until I get my shit together. Research is useless if I'm taking in misinformation.

>>18363653
in general, or specific rules?

>>18362617
...can't hurt
that tsui? damn girl.

>>18363758
i'm not sure what ami is. do you mean azithromycin? from the research i've done HCQ + zinc appears to be working very well, as HCQ is a zinc ionophore. perhaps irrationally i've bought some green tea extracts that do the same and am taking them, but for $10 it's worth it to me.

>>18363609
You act like P/E is a be all end all, there is a reason it is at a discount. I think still a good buy, especially under 55 or 50

>>18363768
The fuck are you on about?

>>18362731
only 5 here

Uber driver here, looks like the stock market money machine is back on. I’m going all in! TSLA SPCE PINS SNAP the winners portfolio

>>18363631
If you want the best, trade adcom or PDUFA hype, and ALWAYS sell before news. You will get fucked by offerings and dumps if you dont. Look at AGRX. Made a fucking killing off it by trading the PDUFA hype, look at the product, in this case birth control, lots of applications and lots of hype means a 150% trade for me.

>>18363789
Me too

>>18363033
>Trump opens economy
not his call. there's still some places that are open.

>>18363733
Better to be optimistic than realistic.I came in blind and honestly its not surprising that I lost it (that said I could have made half of it back yesterday if I actually sold).

Compared to when I first started I've learned a lot and still have a lot more to learn. This is more fun than coding desu

its not fair, this recession was supposed to be a depression and people who suppose to kill themselves, what the fuck did the German Finance minister kill himself for then?

>>18363631
Also Biopharmcatalyst, ZipTrader and ampbioresearch, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnoKSxvKBbaBQoxD8DzUUBQ

>>18363778
>Alright throw me a bone and give me a place to start.
you're not going to like my answer, because it's contained in the boomer investing link in the OP. everything possible will be done to protect the system, which involves protecting productive companies. even if inflation hits, stocks (over the long run) will protect you from it. i do also hold gold at 5% of my portfolio in case it gets bad though.

Hey guys, I'm going to return to university to start studying data science this year. I'm also somewhat interested in trading, what is the best way to learn about stocks? I'm open to taking online courses and will check out the khan academy course in the link. Is it best to wait and try to learn at uni, or is it like coding, where uni can only teach you so much and experience is best?

>>18363752
i want to help people, all i lack is the means. i think of it like i have to provide for myself first, then my family, then my community, and after that we can start talking about how i can help my town, my state, my country, and eventually the world. the hard part is starting out and trying to get enough money for myself first. as long as i can get the necessities, computer/internet, my guitar, and weed/coffee, im happy. that's all i honestly need in life.

>>18363797
Shoe shine anon is back!!

>>18363487
Couldn't tell you, I found it in a random shitcoin thread a bit ago and figured the home team may want to see it.

What kind of buyzone are you thinking? There's plenty left even in the food sector (it's mostly in the distribution side) that while not rock bottom, still comparatively cheap to where they were just a few months ago.

>>18363826
bogleheads?
index funds?

>>18363841
Got any good biotech stocks to add to my folio? Only looking for one or two to go big on. Actually, let’s make that only one.

>>18363828
Put 500-1000 in an account and go wild. Buy some divvys and stable shit like JNJ for some solace when you lose your money, and then trade some shit off suggestions from here. Look at some fundamentals to see if you are making a good decision. Or just buy BAM

>>18363828
There is no learning stocks at uni, period.
And before you get wild ideas about predicting stock movements with data science, stop. That's not how it works.

>>18363788
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/morgan-stanley-spots-something-very-strange-about-rally

>>18363828
>studying data science
so undergrad math or what?

>>18362818
marketwatch has the median estimate at 6 gorillion vs. actual of 6.6 last week.

>>18363834
your priorities sound right to me. you'll only be able to help others when you have more than enough for yourself, so that should be the focus first.

>>18363861
yep

>Casinos and integrated resort closed
>Airplanes not flying
>Entire country is more or less locked down
>Stocks still go up
My favorite meme

>>18363862
I like PTI personally, only like 7% of my folio rn because it's a biomeme, but it has great potential in the CF space. Unironically look at the Stocktwits board for it, there are people there with fucking pages of DD. RationalBiotech and Dlord. Read it and put like 200 dollars in it. Could go to zero but the science is strong and a positive result means a moonshot, risks with COVID fucking with testing though. The key is risk management, you can't be like SNSSfag or LCIguy, these are vehicles for trading, not companies you fall in love with. That is how you get fucked. Short term I would not invest in any biothings because of COVID. Also PTI is safe from offerings because of funding from the CFF.

>>18363861
Do you have a strategy? If not, you're very likely to be hemorrhaging money.

>>18363885
Do they ignore the fact that nobody is selling? Low volume takes us up, where's the big volume to take us down?

Holy fuck we're double topping

>>18363912
hey at least i found the stock market by age 30. i still got another 30-40 years of working ahead of me i figure. the nice thing is that it allowed me to build up a savings during my 20's to initially provide the capital for it.

>>18363885
The market is being driven almost entirely by retail FOMOing in

Can you imagine if a bunch of normies buying the dip actually beats wall street with their retard strength

>>18363949
>i still got another 30-40 years of working ahead
holy fuck how do you even imagine yourself working for another 30 to 40 years

>>18363487
GE is unironically a good buy rn.

>>18363609
So you eant to buy shares in a company providing business to busted up companies that will go bankrupt?

WE ARE NEVER GOING BELOW 23K AGAIN

>>18363971
If you like what you do it’s not hard. For example, I enjoy engineering. Writing software, designing mechanical components, stress testing materials, I enjoy doing it cause at the end of the day I have something physical to show for my work that can do something neat.
Long term goal personally is to make skunkworks the last place I work at.

>>18363140

Even if you lived in Korea and could trade Samsung...why?

>>18363894
CS is an infinitely stronger background than math for DS, though a CS major with math minor is optimal, given the class selection is well thought-out (Good: stats, stochastic processes, one of graphs or game theory, optimization. Bad: analysis, topology)

Looking into sector investing. Is it worth it or is market cap indexing better?

>>18363885
The hedges aren't buying the rally. They know things are going to be worse. But eventually, if people are stubborn enough to not bail on the market even though dividends and returns are shit, the market might somehow stabilize on a bubble that never gets popped until the economy actually recovers. Also I'm betting most algorithm traders have shut off because the market doesn't follow normal patterns anymore. Small investors can still right the bubble safely at least since they aren't going to pop anything.

>>18363993
I don't even like being alive

>>18363494
post more

>>18364033
well that's your problem. also checked.

>>18363413
I get like ten a day since I have a VA loan. Is any of it even remotely real? Seems like a gigantic scam

>>18363993
I've met one of the OG guys from Skunkworks at a aviation conference in Seattle. He told me that the best way to get in is to get yourself published and to start making a name for yourself as soon as possible as a good academic in the military field. Kathy Land (DOD Leadership gal) said the same thing when I met her, though she gave me better advice in management stuff.

Aim for getting a Masters or PHD in military related stuff, anon.

>>18363912
read most of random walk a while back, but I am of the sense that this covid shock was not something I should be adding to my VTSAX for. Not sure most of the market will make it through safely.

>>18363934
nothing formalized, buy the best companies as they go lower. I had been keeping track of everything, following the market and current events until, finding which sources of information were worth paying attention to and reading between the lines, doing pretty well until a month or so before the COVID crash. Sold a lot of my favorite shit nearly at the bottom because I realized how bad things might get. Bought some inverse shit at a terrible time.

Never even wanted to do the short side much until this, and it blew up in my face. And now all the bad news is out of the way, and the good news keeps coming, and I'm still heavily cash, and bleeding in my short positions. Long gains are being cancelled out. feel sick.

Layoffs are slowing down, green tomorrow
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/five-million-more-unemployment-claims-expected-but-now-layoffs-could-be-more-permanent.html

>>18363993
im a musician. i play the guitar and do vocals. the lockdown has given me a nice chance to spend more time learning about audio engineering and production for my own recordings. i also have a boomerang III pedal that i fuck around with often, just creating loops, erasing them and starting over.

>>18364092
We weren't red when they were speeding up.

>>18362839
If you're a Euro, CFDs are what you're after. They're against the rurus in Freedomland.

Jerome still pumping 50 billion per day

>>18364088
Right before the crash... I started oversleeping and missing market hours, not catching all the news...
fuck I have the worst goddamn timing.

>>18363885
Well yeah, unlimited QE and the stimulus bill. Meanwhile the market is currently very volatile which is scaring people, literally the reason for the term "it's impossible to catch the bottom" is a thing. People TRADING from what I can see seems normal though, is it because the buying volume doesn't match the selling volume or what?

>>18363870
I'm not deluded enough to think I can easily become some data scientist maverick who cracks the code to stocks and becomes exceedingly rich. However, I do understand what my career may lead to and also know that having investments will probably lead to a better life in the future. I'd like to save to invest right now, and do so smartly

>>18363869
Right now I'm thinking of putting an amount into index funds or an etf and then playing with stocks with a lesser amount. You're right that its probably a good idea to have some skin in the game so that I can be making mistakes and learning from them. What are divvys?

>>18363894
I originally was going to be majoring in math, but realized that data probably has a better outlook. I aim to take exclusively math, cs and finance classes at uni

>>18364016
This is largely what I've heard while researching DS majors

>>18364088
If you're going to get out of a long position it should align with a predetermined strategy, doesn't matter what kind. In the short term the market is a clown market and can go any which way, best to keep emotions out of it. Personally, I use very basic TA to decide when to go long and when to short.

When's the dump, Bobo? I'm ready to buy

>>18363956
lmao the old reverse psychology golden bull kickstart, the magnificent retards

>>18364192
dividend stocks, stable companies that pay you money to hold them

>>18364216
Basic TA? Explain

>>18362788
Respeck

>>18364231
>asking bobo's for the dump date
They're already dead. Just ride the good coronavirus news and oil deal news until you start to hear about REITs going bankrupt.

>>18364246
Don't fall for the meme lines.

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>>18364278
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>>18364278
>>18364278
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>>18364278
>>18364278
>>18364278

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>>18364278
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>>18364082
It’s a gigantic scam. Never do it.

>>18364246
technical analysis. I use moving average crossovers and stochastic/RSI. Just look em up. Basically prevents me from doing retarded shit, which is all you really need to beat the market

How long until airline stocks like jet blue and spirits start to moon?

>>18364296
it's mostly just determining through analysis and indicators whether you are trending or ranging/flat, using that to find the areas of value to buy in (hint: usually near the moving average), and then after entering all you do is manage risk (how much do you lose if you lose, how much do you win if you win). that's all it is, i defy anyone to make it more complicated than that. high probability, zone of value, risk management.

>>18364361
also another free tip: set all of your indicators to use the HL2 (high+low/2 or midpoint or median), thank me later.

>>18364302
Probably not until the 4.8 billion on lockdown are allowed to fly again

>>18364302
Don't buy shit companies, buy quality stocks that are discounted like Air Canada

>>18364424
>Don't buy shit companies like Air Canada.

Fixed it for you.

>>18364465
AC's new CEO has actually been doing a really good job during his run. I wouldn't call AC junk just yet, but it is a gamble for sure.

>>18364465
>Owns Toronto
>Canadian government has implicit put on it
nah

>>18364507
>Canadian government

If the Canadian government was competent I would believe you but they have Justin "I can sell arms to Saudi Arabia and still be a feminist" Trudeau.

>>18364732
Liberal party base of support is Quebec and AC employs mostly Quebecois - they won't let it go under

>>18364424
air canada had nearly as much debt as assets going into this along with international exposure, you are clearly a dipshit cuck

>>18364921
International includes the US doesn't it?