/biz/ - Business & Finance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbmt9_DVo3E
tl;dw
>uncle teds been watching the market for over 10 years
>sees all types of crooked shit
>gov tells him 'ah, it'll be fine'
>jpm now as almost 10x what these same fucks dropped the hammer on the hunt brothers for having

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zci9z_gLMrQ
The Truth About The Hunt Brothers as told by The greatest Truth Never Told

Silverpill me on the international financier: how does he manipulate the metals?

>>18330537
>buy future contracts on paper for silver you dont physically have
>sell into the market creating the appearance of "metal" being dumped
>buy physical metal on the cheap
>repeat
>now you have a stockpile of physical to cover shorts
>buy back contracts for less than you sold
>never lose on the trade for a decade going

>>18330600
how do I profit from this ?

>>18330446
Thanks for the link

20 oz stacklet reporting. 1/4 oz of gold is my next step

What is y’alls speculation about 2020 minted coins. It’s going to be a low production year right?

I want to buy silver for the first time despite the high premiums. Is the consensus to wait or go for it? My thinking is that it won't matter once we moon but maybe I am being naive?

Are marsupials good for stacking?

I didnt buy silver on March 16, I assumed the price would drop further as the consequences of the pandemic would increase. Then it got back up, thinking to myself this is where a lot of opportunists start buying. I thought it was only inevitable that the price would go down even more than March 16 during the pandemic as the worst it yet to come.
Does anyone agree with this hypothesis, or should I stop waiting and order silver now before the price starts going up more and more?

>>18331341
I’m bullion has generic silver rounds in stock for a little over $18.50. Hinestly that isn’t a bad deal. Free shipping on all orders over $99

>>18331390
I think the price is going up. All the vendors just saw that people will pay premiums to obtain physical metal

JM Bullion has Batboi in stock.

>>18331403
Should I order 50 maple leafs?

>>18332242
That’s up to you. Maples are very liquid. Some people on here don’t like them, but they are the minority

>>18332268
I've seen way nicer coins, but maples are reliable, cheap, easy to trade and all the rest is out of stock. For example I could buy 50 kangaroos or american eagles, for the same weight at a 75 euro price difference. Then the question is, would I throw away 75 euro for a nice looking coin? Yes, but aesthetics isn't the reason I'm interested in silver. So, logic rules that I go for stinky maples, and not shiny eagle jews.

>>18332337
Pic related. The only advantage is that the eagles are from 2020 and the maples are random. Maybe I am vain enough to go for eagles.

>misleading auction
>chinese seller
every time

I see Silver Krugerrands going for sale on eBay for $27. Based. I have 120.

>>18331341
Dude get some it isn’t going down

>>18332656
What price did you buy them? Or did you find them in a cave behind a warerfall

I got a few numismatics the other day but feel like i really got ripped off when i looked up the actual material value of said coins + saw how tiny they were IRL

Paid 18 bucks in total for 4 coins, i think i'll return them again though and buy another proper ounce with that money

>>18330402
Anyone have any info about Aluminum? I hear there may be some switching from plastic to aluminum in the future.

Hey guys, look what Mr Mailman just brought

>>18334302
Those look very satisfying to hold.

DAILY REMINDER WHEN YOU GET TO STIMULUS CHECK TO PUT IT TO WORK! STIMULATE YOUR GOLD AND SILVER!

>>18335803
That wouldn’t stimulate the economy.

>>18335873
Exactly.

>>18330758
you dont.
The financier profits.
Been in silver for 15 years, havent made much on it.
I just made a little recently by taking a small leveraged position at 12 and exited yesterday at 14.9

I am going to move big into silver when it makes a higher high. That would be 19 dollar today.
but it might not see 19 just peak at 17 go down again, not see 17 again peak at 16 and go down again not see 15 but peak at 13 and go down again...
Wait till it makes a higher high.
Or sub 10 dollar.
Sub 10 dollar is too cheap to ignore.

I posted this in the other silver thread but I think you fucks would enjoy this too.

I've been buying Cull silver coinage in bulk like pic related and then sell it and other US coinage/collectibles in “grab bags” on eBay and Amazon.

I can stuff each $50 bag with $25 worth of product and people will still come back for more. Time after time. It’s honestly ridiculous.

Basically, I buy old silver coins in bulk at cull rates, then search the bag for anything valuable, take anything of XF/AU quality out and sleeve it, and then pack the rest in grab bags.

Pic related still all needs to be packed. Everything else I have is in bags like the one in pic related to the right of the coins.
All of that said, if anyone knows local dealers that have a lot of junk silver they can't sell I WILL BUY IT.

A fucking boomer came into my favorite coin shop today and sold TWENTY GRAND WORTH OF JUNK SILVER. IT LOOKED LIKE A BANK.

I then told the guy working behind the counter that I'll spend $40 on junk silver. He sold me $2.50 face value. How did I do?

>>18333708
In what applications i wonder?? really been wanting the do a thread on base metals sometime

>>18336775
And I just want to add no other fucking coin shop has silver so if you are in Dallas or near it, Plano has a store called Dingers. Only place that has silver right now

>>18336811
Thanks for the tip im in ft worth

>>18336904
No problem, I would just call ahead if you are going to make the drive. He is probably the coolest guy that owns a coin shop and very redpilled. He doesn't really ever take advantage of anyone from what I have seen and experience.

Fucking hell, /biz/. The damn boomer was just a fat bastard that dumped a giant cloth of silver that exploded over the huge counter there. I have never seen so much silver in all my life accumulated. That bastard must of been stacking all his life. Who the hell sells now?

>>18336799
aluminum will never be worth much anymore due to the massive quantities that can be produced at one time. Aluminum smelters work in the hundreds of tonnes per day, either recycling it or converting it from bauxite.

>>18336775
Jewed hard.
.715 is the constant for a junk silver dollar to ozt calculation.

Since $2.50 FV is known, multiply by the junk constant above:
2.50 * .715 = 1.7875

Thus, you bought 1.7875ozt of silver for $40

We can then calculate your ouce cost by dividing what you paid for the weight you received:
40 / 1.7875 = 22.377622

We then round the result to find out what you paid: $22.38 an ounce.

Those kinds of premiums on junk/Constitutional silver is outrageous.

>>18336799
if anything we should be looking more at coppers future. We used tens of thousands of tonnes of copper a year, about half of that is recycled from old tech or infrastructure, however we're going to be needing more and more copper for "green" energy projects and consumer goods, but only 14 new mines have opened to meet demand. Copper will become one of the metals we outstrip production on within 10 years.

>>18336775
First thing's first, get some flips. Second, zero key dates so you got jewed. Can you post the reverses so I can see if you at least made it out with an S or something?

>>18336965
>sadly still less than what I have been paying online
He did buy it for over spot though from what I witnessed.

>>18337040
>outstrip production on within 10 years
Damn. Thats super bullish
Any thoughts on nickel? Badass kyle bass gots idk like over a million dollars in face value of physical nickels. Just this last year they got debased also. They sound real tinny now
>everyone should follow Kyle Bass and his work exposing the dirrty commies running china

Sold 1/4 my paper gold today at 1690. Feeling ok about it. Was up 31% wanted some profit.

>>18337216
Nickel is a bit hard to say. There are massive stockpiles of physical ore yet to be processed in both russia and china. They mine massive amounts of ore extra, than shut down for the winter months because its too hard on the equipment. The world isnt running low on Nickel any time soon either, Norilsk thinks they have another 100 million tonnes to go through before they are done.

>>18331341
Consider buying higher weight bars. I got a kilo today and premium was ~34%. Not great but less than rounds. Also got more gold

Any zinc guys here? I'm I've limped into a few zinc mines? Any info? Supply has been decling for awhile

>>18336965
That's what it's going for right now anon about 16x FV

>>18333708
Back in the 50s-80s it was the modern application for lightweight firearms before Polymer took over. It still gets used in some firearm mfg but is heavy now compared to polymer

>>18335803
_ _ _ rats

>>18337487
thanks for the info pan man

>>18337574
zinc is a byproduct metal from most major copper, silver, gold mines. The supply has been dropping not because there is less metal, its because there is too much of it at the moment. The chinese don't need as much so output has decreased over the last two years. Silver Tip and a few other mines in northern BC / Yukon will be stepping up to meet demand if zinc stockpiles drop.

>>18337835
Makes sense, thanks

>>18337098
No S sadly
Why did the seller go "ooh you should go for the barber and standing liberty"? Are those coins harder to find? Or is he just bullshitting me?

>>18334339
I can tell you they are

>>18337772
What about rats?

>>18336799
Something about plastic used for single use water bottles. Something about California banning plastic for this use. Still need to look into it.

You fags think 5oz silver coins/bars is a good buy or will it be hard to trade? I only have 1oz coins at the moment.

>>18339059
Just make stacks of 5 coins.

>>18339059
Depends on how much you're trading. You can always buy more than you need and barter it as well. Even then, 1oz may be too much, hence junk silver/fractional for smaller or novelty items. Hypothetically speaking.

>>18331577
back dat back back 4 dat bat boi

>>18339189
That's a man

>>18339189
That's a man>>18339184

>>18336954
Boomer was probably over leveraging and needed cash now, sad to say but if you can catch those kinds before they go to the coin/pawn shop crazy deals can be made when people are desperate for cash.

>>18336131
Yes this. I am also worried about sub 10 dollar happening this year. I figured I'd rather jump in now and not have to worry about missing the window for the bull run. If it drops below 10 I'll buy more and wait 20-30 years

Alright boys. Finally got 10oz of the good stuff in today. You have no idea. Two weeks from now I'll be breaking off littles pieces of this silver crack and trading them for as many AR-15s as I want. I figure half of one of these vials should get me a nice mansion and a few women. You plebeians have no idea how to stack. I am the Silver King.

>>18338193
>why did he say “oooh you should go for the barber and standing liberty”
Check the mintage for each year you got. I bet they’re in the tens of millions. Especially if you can get it at spot, get Seateds and earlier. Barbers can be good too tho.

>>18339883
What is that

I don’t know about you all... but because of Corona this is the first time since college that I’ve felt alive. I have lots of silver and been waiting for something like this to happen for 5 years. The point where things get so bad that 1 silver Merc dime will buy me a blowjob from a formerly well to do housewife and her 18 year old daughter at the same time. I’ve been waiting in the shadows laughing at these cuck husbands who buy their wives range rovers instead of buying silver bullion... knowing that I’ll be face fucking their wives mouths for the 1.30$ it cost me to buy that silver dime.

Just yesterday at Whole Foods I seamlessly entered into conversation about Corona with a roastie milf that had a ring on her finger in the water aisle... and I said this is all a cover for trump to bring us back on a gold standard. She started looking at me in amazement like she wanted me to paint her lips in cum. At the end of the conversation I’m like take my number l have plenty of protection and freeze dried food if you ever need it and she took it from me.

>>18339703
Anon if spot goes to ten bucks the actual price won't follow.

>>18339938
Silver shot, primarily used by cottage-industry smelters. Sold by the oz, intended to eventually be a poured bar or round. Occasionally loaded into shotgun shells for use against werewolves.

>>18340224
Is that the most affordable way of conventionally obtaining silver?

>>18337216
I do put aside any nickels I happen to run into. Nothing crazy though. Like Kyle Bass as well, it's a pity the administration didn't take him more seriously before all this coofiness.

>>18339703
It kinda shocked me because be said "I might bring four more briefcases full of silver"

Like literally, this blew my mind. Either he needs money super damn badly, or he is greedy and wants to spend it before he dies.
If so, just another typical boomer that doesn't want to pass on his wealth. It was fucking horrible and amazing to witness that much silver stacked on the table, and yet I felt upset if he had any kids or grandkids he could've given it to

I would've taken a camera shot, but photos are phobibited in there

>>18340332
He said*

>>18340280
Goodness no. Most won't buy straight shot, again it's for a niche part of the silver market. Kinda hoping silver doesn't moon anytime soon so I can get in on smelting. If you're looking to stack and avoid premiums as much as you can, conventional wisdom says get kilo bars. Good luck finding any right now tho.

>>18340437
Would add that offloading said kilos can be tricky too sometimes. For easy liquidity ounces are good. Not that you'd want to sell now.

>>18340332
Geeesh, fucking boomers.

I liked the story that one anon posted about how his great-great grandfather started a PM stash and it gets divided evenly amongst the males of the current generation. Each male then builds on their own stash. I'm gonna try to set that up for my progeny.

>>18340437
Smart words. Anyway, in my country any preciuous metal bars come with a 21% tax rate on top. Coins do not. Neither do so called coin bars made for that specific reason (just bars but with dollar signs on them). And even then my options are limited, I can get maple leafs, kangaroos or eagles. I like the eagles most. I'm probably going to get 50 of them, doest require tax and I'm going to have to get some silver sooner or later, it's been on my to do list for a while. It was never going to be cheap anyway. Question remains do I go for it now or wait to see if it drops again and potentially miss out. Price is going down as we speak.

>>18332454
The years don't matter.

>>18340554
I got two kids right now. If the country is still a freaking country, I would like my kids to inherit it all. I am already teaching them everything on what real money is, economics, who to trust, and why dindus lead to violence kek

>>18340735
Newer maples have a more complex design that makes counterfeiting harder.

>>18341075
I would imagine eagles from 2020 are in better condition then maples from whenever. The price difference is arguable.

>>18330758
short silver
short every pump

>>18332454
you should strive to minimize premium on the highest purity you can get
but mostly just short the shit out of silver

>>18341511
>>18341540
Why short? Isn't it going up again? Or is the crash still coming

I think I just figured out the majority of the world's wealth flows into large bank accounts and then just doesn't do anything. The world's wealth gets taken from us and put nowhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEnuWv38urI

>>18342041
It gets put in the pockets of unelected (((bureaucrats)))

> We've got Tendies coming yes
> We've got Tendies U-P-S

Literally YOLO'ing all my money into PM except for three months of expenses. Citibank risk department called me three times in one day. The last call was from the supervisor, first thing she asked me was, "Are you okay?"

>>18335873
So? Fuck bitches get money

>>18342041
that video is lowkey making a lot of sense

Regarding junk silver, when you calculate whatever face value and multiply by 0.715 and get a outcome of x.395....do you say you have x.40 ounces or x.39? Does the world round up with silver with 5 or higher?

>>18330465
Chris Duane is awesome

>>18342476
Go to coinflation anon, don't over complicate things

>>18342577
>coinflation
good site. has some decent news also at times

Fuck anons, I haven't had the silverbug in awhile. After fondling some junk silver, I can't stop wanting to buy more.

>>18342312
Lol what? Fuck them

Thoughts on desiccant crystals? I have one in my safe but I think its just a meme and doesn't work. This being said I think im going to get another for the case I keep my metals in.

>>18342312
Well, did you call her a Jew, anon?

>>18343949
She sounded sad. Sad about Citibank tendies.

Hit up larry and get you a corona stack.

>>18344080
bro you gotta charge your phone

>>18344080
I bought some from liberty.coin. Looking forward to flipping it for 5x

>>18344032
She wasn't sad, she's the one they have call you up, to psy-op your sympathetic man parts into doing whatever she suggests. You did good.

>>18331186
Interesting theory. Bump

>>18331341
dealers are maintaining a floor on silver
the best you can do is to put in your order after a dip but before your dealer can raise the premium

>>18336965
>Those kinds of premiums on junk/Constitutional silver is outrageous.
To me it's no different than buying ASE at $22. Bullion is bullion. Would you say that if they were higher grade coins, anon would have made out better?

>>18331403
spot price now reflects only the paper trade

>>18339883
Do you plan on pouring it or selling it as shot?

Always have your eye on the prize

>>18344321
Turn your phone or computer monitors upside down for best results

>>18342312
Based anon. I keep buying each week. I've dumped about 15% of my net worth into PM the last month and a half. I now have more in PM now than I had in my IRA before the bottom fell out. I think I'll be good after these last 9oz come in. Unless Monument Metals gets the coronacoins in...hell I might bit the bullet and get one off eBay.

>>18344228
>Do you plan on pouring it or selling it as shot?
????
I've been eating them slowly so that I can save it in my gut for emergencies. It's kinda tough because some pieces keep coming out the other end but I've been cleaning them off in the sink and re-eating them.

What's the ideal gold to silver ratio to keep on a stack?

>>18344445
1:120

>>18344426
>(You)

>>18344490
>>18344228
All joking it aside I'm using the silver shot as the walkway to the temple I am building in honor of Terry Davis and Temple OS. Will post pics when it's ready.

>>18344380
> coronacoins in...hell I might bit the bullet and get one off eBay.
L A R R Y
A
R
R
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I wonder when was the last time a gold coin was used as legal tender at a shop to buy something

>>18344715
>he thinks people here are buying legal tender
when was the last time a stock was used as legal tender at a shop to buy something?

>>18330402
OP pic is wrong the real JPMorgan stack is confirmed over 800m and from my insiders it's over 1bil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLqH12A9UT0
>>18330537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_h-5H421MA
>>18330600
checked and based
>>18330758
buy silver, hold and wait for (((them)) to flip the switch
>>18331186
absolutely they're literally closed
>>18342312
based, always pisses off the banksters when you convert into real wealth because then they lose all that fractional reserve banking potential
>>18344379
kek I remember it was below $600 less than a year ago

>>18344559
I was going to go with Liberty Coin. Do you have a link to Larry's account? But ultimately I'd rather go with Monument. Free shipping over $99, literally a state over and for some reason no sales tax

Found some generic 5oz coins for $18.25 an oz, shipped. Worth it? Gold still seems like a better bet to me. Have 500oz of silver already.

>>18344908
Wait for monday...... large dip

Source: my hairy anus

>>18330402
Thinking of buying 1 oz of gold. Is now a good time or should I hold off? The premiums are high but the price could jump up soon with corona and whatnot.

>>18344730
What?

>>18345657
Its about to get worse when mandatory vaccines are a go go. Buy ASAP

>>18344797
>Do you have a link to Larry's account?
You can't just link to Larry's account. It must be found.

>>18344766
The chart was from 2 years ago. Do you got a more recent one?

>>18344908
It will be ok Anon. We'll all hold hands together and pray it does't drop below 14.

>>18344214
Pretty much. He got cull coins that are maybe G-4 and common date. Zero numismatic value. If you're getting coins, the premium is the coin's collectible value, and so you want better coins if you're paying that much.

>>18346683
Is it bad that I pay the extra premium on junk silver because I like the perfect weight on them, the fact I can fondle them without guilt, are more durable than .999, and already have a protective coating of time and grime that already gives them a certain sexy look within the crevices of each coin?

Do any of you think this coin is worth investing in?

>>18346785
I mean, nothing wrong with buying Constitutional. Shit, my stack is almost all 90%. Just don't pay bullion prices for common coins in shit condition.

The more worn the coin, the less silver is actually in it.

>>18346832
Absolutely agreed. Can't wait when all this shit is over and hopefully everyone stops freaking out so bad so coin shops can start following spot prices plus whatever SMALL premium they want to charge to make a profit. Fucking hell, all the coin shops I go to are buying over spot and selling TWICE over what they paid extra from that spot.
>spot: $15
>seller: hurrrdurrr I wanna sell silver
>store: hurrrr I'll buy silver for $3 over spot
>seller: well hot damn, sure buddy!
>transaction complete
>buyer: Got any silver?
>store: heh..sure buddy....$6 over spot though! Stuff goes fast, yah know?

Literally happening right now all over the world, in real life and online transactions.

>>18346113
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nice-P-hoto-I-mage-Picture-Of-Me-Catching-Red-Snapper-In-Florida-3/174239859963?hash=item28918144fb:g:OMAAAOSwbqheWZnJ

very interesting

Talk me out of it

>>18346934

>>18346921
they have you over a barrel since the wholesellers wont deal with average joes. Its ridiculous. I tried to get quoted for so-called industrial silver near spot price and they flat out refused. Something very fucky with this market

>>18346936
It's boring, it's an animal, and it could have a girl on it and could have a pair of tits on it. Tits on gold is loved more.

It's a fucking goat. Just combine your money right now with the money you will get in the stimulus check and buy something better.

>>18346957
Agreed. It feels like a fucking casino sometimes. The house always tries to find a way to win. It really pisses me off.

>>18330402
suprised to see new stock added to my regular online dealer but man the premiums

prices in maple syrup loons

>>18346979

Silvergoldbull has better prices and selection then TD

>>18346979
I have bought silver wayyyyy over the spot price. It's fucking embarrassing but my excuse to myself is that with my current job, I am practically getting money thrown at me for not really doing anything during this crisis....I'm a silverbug buying addict and I have this weird kinky feeling of even buying more silver during panic times. Does anyone else do that? I literally like to even buy more of the stuff when it is harder to get. Talk about a mental issue.

>>18346959
You talk like the goat ain't someone's girl. It IS an Aussie coin, after all.

>>18331577
>>18347026
Quick rundown on the bat coins?

>>18347076
Fucking kek

>>18347082
they are a meme and people say they bless your stack...and that they will be a hot commodity once this shitty situation is over and when time passes, they will be hunted down and kept as a token that screams "I survived the 2020 happening! Here is my ticket that I rode on Mr.Bones Wild Ride and lived!

>>18347015
>bull has no 2020 silver maples
>bull has no 10oz 2020 silver maple
>td is one cent cheaper for the eagles considering payment methods

pictures speak louder than words

>>18347026
I now see how based Larry really is

>>18333708
https://www.newsweek.com/pepsi-plastic-bottles-aquafina-aluminium-cans-1446817

>>18347175
Lovely....drinking out of aluminum increases risk of getting alzheimers if done constantly through your life...

>>18347124
Why do you care for 2020s?
They have random year maples for about 2$ less for a 1oz

>>18347247
>2020
>20 20
>year of the biggest financial loss in the markets (still yet to hit bottom)
>year of the pandemic
>mints still shut down limiting numbers of 2020 in circulation
>son was born in 2020

what more can I say anon?

It's happening

>>18347026
praise bat king larry

>>18346050
Is this what you're referring to?

>>18344528
Based

>>18347314
How many people would die before they let this become a thing? People will be as communal and nationalistic as people are ever going to get after this Corona thing blows over. Aint nobody falling for a global currency

>>18347314
fake news

>>18347322
Absolutely. That shitstain bill gates going full retard pushing his "everyone needs to get a vaccine and have digital proof that they got it if everyone wants life to go back to normal". Literally the last Friday the 13th we had, he had to just step down from Microsoft and haul ass to ID2020. Its his final dream.

>>18347355
fucking kek, thank goodness. Hopefully that it legit is from 2009. Still, they do want to push globalism badly. It is all in the timing

>>18347286
>s
Thanks for the response

Makes sense - All the best to you and your family brother. Thinking of placing an order for a tube with my CERB.

>>18347314
you bastard

>>18347395
>everyone is locked down to their cities
>borders are stronger than ever

I think when everything settles from this, if there isnt war, people will be more nationalistic and I feel will want to be less dependent on other countries for various things. Or bill gates can inject us all with id2020 YOLO who knows.

>>18333682
I RMA'd them now and will buy more actual silver coins from that money

first ever purchase. what am i in for lads?

>>18347398
Stocks or metals.
Best use of the benefit.
Thanks for the well wishes : )

>>18347470
basically a huge fucking quarter made of silver

>>18347470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVz8rvIl_vY
flappy doggos will bring you luck and fortune

>>18347026
Holy based

>>18347209
They're lined https://www.wired.com/2015/03/secret-life-aluminum-can-true-modern-marvel/

>>18337040
bullshit. Copper is directly linked to the building of infrastructure, and there's going to be sweet fuck all of that happening in the near future.

There's no shortage of good copper discoveries. Want to know why there's so few new mines planned? Hint: the people opening mines have an idea of expected demand.

My hunch is that even those 14 won't all open.

Gold will be big for wealth purposes and lithium will be big for battery purposes, but copper is in the shitter until the World Bank starts lending again pal

>>18346921
My LCS is charging $10 over spot

>>18336811
>Dallas
ew i hope that shithole burns
fuck ur gay ass toll roads

>>18346811
gold is gold
numismatists are more autistic than you think and they hate those reissues with a passion

>>18344080
>dat premium
jesus this is jewry on a massive scale

>>18339999
Dubs and quads. Ngl this pasta gets me going.

>100g and 500g bar of gold
>225 oz of silver
>will buy 300 oz of silver very soon when its available in Yurop
I still feel like a fucking stacklet, damn it, maybe I went too much into gold before silver.

>>18344845
>nobody responds
Oh well. Guess I'll stick with gold.

>>18347022
It doesn't matter because at some point it's going to be 1.75-2 times the value anyways. As long as you are getting your hands on it that is a good thing

>>18336144
I’m intrigued. So you sell $25 worth of silver for $50 or you sell a $25 face value bag for $50?

Should I go full cheapest silver and bring myself to 270 ounces of silver, or go straight ASE and bring myself to 210 ounces, or buy 60 ASE's and 1 oz gold ASE or buffalo?

Just not sure. Already have 60 ounces in ASE's and 20 oz in bars.

>>18348761
Tough choice
Stay away from gold cause you a poorfag

>>18330600
I really want to build a time machine, grab Jackson, bring him back here, give him an M4 carbine and point him in the direction of the Federal Reserve.

The problem would be solved real quick.

>>18330402
>want a bat coin
>it's $125 in one shop, sold out everywhere else
Should I?

>>18349440

>>18345699
you don't invest in something because it might be used as legal tender one day, do you?

>>18349600
No anon leave more for me

>>18349600
you wanna be cool, don't you?

Also, general question. What's the advantage to buying rounds/coins over bars? Why the premium cost? Also, for bars, what size would you guys recommend? Everyone here seems to stick to smaller sized bars. Any reason for this?

>>18346113
>I don't send scratched up and used Air-Tite Z-5 containers like so many others. ONLY BRAND NEW!
larry, absolute mensch

How long does JM Bullion take to ship? I know it says 5+ days but that could mean 6 days or 600 days since both are technically 5+

>>18347613
So you don’t get cancer you just get turned into a woman from the Xenoestrogens leeching into your drink from the plastic. Based merchants.

I am a goldlet. But how do you invest in gold? Do you need to buy it physically or are there trackers that track the gold price?

>>18350322
Go on youtube and watch some Max Keiser episodes before you do anything.

>>18350529
>a literal bitcoin shill
why do so many people shill for that garbage crypto coin? at least invest into something that is more energy efficient like ethereum

>>18334302
Those look heavy as hell. Does the shape determine how much an ounce of gold weighs?

>>18350322
Dont buy gold, buy silver fren.

The gold/silver ratio is like 110.

>>18351162
so I looked up some information. and see gold is used 40% as investment, 50% for jewelry, and 10% for industry. If the luxury segment dies, gold is effectively fucking useless.
What about some investments that do have an inherent use, like oil?

>>18351162
>citing this ratio

this ratio has no relevance anymore.

god>silver

>>18346936
Chinese lettering on a Aussie coin with the Queen on it. How cucked can you get?

>>18351213
Silver > Gold

You think JP morgan has been hording physical silver for no reason?

>>18348001
I don't think anyone would underestimate the autisticness of numismatics.

>>18332454
Waar koop je dit?

>>18347604
OMG aw who knew bats were that cute!!!?~~~~~~ <3 <3 <3

>>18351099
>Does the shape determine how much an ounce of gold weighs?

>>18351099
European education everyone

>>18350322
The premiums on small-fry gold are ridiculous, so only buy when you can afford at least whole ounce coins. At least. 1/4 and 1/10ths are fucking expensive.

Basically if you are the kind of person who can buy 1oz gold coins freely just do it man, if you don't stick with silver in ounces or better yet, bars of 100g or even 1kg.

The bigger the amount you buy the closer to spot especially in times like these. The only drawback is that you can't change a small amount of it at once, so my suggestion is to buy a 1kg bar to store value but also get a bunch of 1oz coins in case you want to sell some back or if we go full Mad Max or whatever.

>>18347470
Guaranteed 5x by EOY. And probably 10x in the next 5.

>>18347975
I don't take those forsaken toll roads and live ways out in the outskirts

>>18348001
Why do they hate reissues?

>>18351099
Yes the flatter the ounce the less it weighs due to the mass of the coin being more evenly distributed lessening it's gravitational pull. Only true stackers understand the micros of optimal coin geometry.

Can any of you niggers teach me how to post a pic?
I try to add a pic and it says my IP is banned. I'm a phonefag because fuck paying extra for internet
I've tried using a (((vpn))) but it didn't work
Clear cache/cookies? Try a diff browser?

>>18351959
Turn VPN off anon.

>>18351099
>Does it even have to be gold or just yellow?

Delivered this morning

What's wrong with Paper Gold and Paper Silver outside of total economic collapse? Royal Canadian Mint isn't going to bankrupt. May as well pick some up. In the case the Gold in unencumbered vaults start being called the price of gold will just skyrocket to accommodate for the discrepancy between paper gold held and physical gold stored.

Unless we're in apocalypse scenario I don't see any problems. But even then I'd rather have ammo.

>>18352021
Which shop did you buy from?

>>18352110
Ebay
£175 for the 250g
305 for the 500g

Happy to pay the premium

>>18351099
poster here. Nah bro an ounce is an ounce (like 31g if I'm not mistaken), but as >>18351932 said, these are square bars, so they're smaller in size and feel more concentrated than, say, an ounce coin, just because they're thicker. Still an ounce and still worth the same tho

>>18331097

Jesus, stop storing your Sunshines in the ground.

Throw some toothpaste on those bitches.

>>18351998
I did. Doesnt work

>>18351099

/biz/ top mind right here

Just got two 1/4 oz coins for 17 bucks including shipping, my humble stack just won't stop growing

How did i do /pmg/

>>18334302
What made you get these over other bars/lmba suppliers?

Now repeat after me: There is no possible scenario in which gold and
silver do not rise.

>>18330402
I know u guys love me

>>18351099
I like you.

>>18352928
Would succ for a batboi

>>18352928
Just bought a second bat.

>>18352770
I'm in Europe, I don't have dollars, they had everything in stock without any bullshit warnings of shipment delays, and even though I paid 29€ in secured shipment, I ordered them on a Wednesday evening and got them on a Tuesday

>>18336144
fuck off

>>18352928
yes, for buying such a small stack and leaving us more

>>18339999
checked but you are still a retard

Daily reminder that if you are buying PM with credit card or anything else that lets the government know what you do - you could just burn the money instead, because as soon as shtf they will come and take everything you have

>>18354419
Oh yeah the American government is surely coming to rural fuck knows where in the middle of Eastern Europe to get my few ounces of silver. They're preparing the choppers already.

Mail call — I got 8 pandas and 5 eagles for 21 ea

I'm already right-side up on the gold I bought. Starting to think the silver was a mistake.

>>18331097

Nice, I'd save up and get yourself a gold Krugerrand .

I just barely made over the 100 oz mark in silver myself. At what point are you no longer considered a stacklet anons?

>>18339999

If I have 500€ to spare, should I go for gold or silver, knowing this isn't enough even for 1/2oz of gold?

>>18354970
Silver, you get robbed on gold unless you are one of the big bois

>>18354970
The gold, you can easily hide it in a tooth cavity

>>18355010
>meanwhile premiums on silver hover around 50%
>just got 10 grams of gold and premium was about 4%

Should I get another batboi to have 2 of them or pick up a 5 oz silver aztec calendar? They look nice but nothing rare or special about them.

>>18355274
>"Premium" on paper price
This argument is so retarded. If you cant physically but any quantity of silver for less than a few dollars above the "spot" price, then it isnt the spot price.

>>18354667
I’d say around 250 oz is leaving the stacklet phase

>>18355531
I agree, FMV is what you can expect to pay for something on an open market. I dont see how this nullifies my point that you can buy gold in smaller weights for a modest premium over FMV

COMEX is absorbing huge stock even though OI are low and volumes are fucked. Something is afoot. Thousands more tons will flow into COMEX from mainly London. Eurofags - get your hands on gold (and silver). This is going to fuck gold price major - it might head to $800. Of course, it's all going to get cleared out, London's gold will be gone and miraculously when US reserves are audited there will be thousands of extra tons of gold.

>>18352054
There isn't enough physical metal to cover the paper metals. Guess what happens to all the small fish holding paper when delivery gets demanded?

>>18354492
You think they dont exchange that type of info?

>>18331341
As someone who bought silver over $40... wait. It always comes down.

>>18356615
no, I think I'm too irrelevant. You think there isn't at least a bot reading this now?

>>18355564
>mfw 225oz
i need my trumpbux!

>>18351269
Why does jp morgan sell silver if they're so intent on hoarding it?

>>18354576
i was thinking of buying one silver panda and destroying it with a blowtorch on stream

>>18357246
Chink silver releases lead fumes.

Who buys this shit?

>>18357541
Scumbags for their shitty white rasta son

>>18357541
Dude weed bro
I'd buy that for $420

>>18357541
Colored coins are for colored people.

Do you guys think premiums will keep rising? As in should I buy today or wait til later this month?

Should I get another 2 batbois or just one more and $4 of war nickels? I don't have much fractional silver and 1 batboi

>>18358616
It's a gamble, prices may be up, prices may be the same and product may be back in stock. Or this run has given cause to keep premiums high until people stop buying.

Has anyone very recently ordered from JM Bullion? How long did it take for them to ship out your order after you paid? Their site says 5+ days but that could mean 6 days or 6 months. Both are technically 5+ days. I got screwed by Scottsdale, been a month and still (((processing))) and their site said 5-10 days for gold and 20+ days for silver at the time.

>>18358680
where would you get the batbois tho

>>18358727
EBay, Ampex, Modern Coin Mart, I have another but I'm not sharing until i get mine

>>18358616
Once silver gets back to $18 the market will be magically restocked. Probably 15% higher premiums as 2019. Premiums spiked when Trump exploded that Iranian faggot and this board was panic buying PM's.

>>18358777
killing some sand nigger isnt the same as a global pandemic that has raped the world economy making governments print trillions of dollars that wont do shit to help except make them print more trillions

>>18355564

At least 500 z of silver and 10z gold

>>18356367

there becomes a shortage, and so the price per ounce rises to fix the ratio of paper to physical. I.e. If there are 5 paper ounces per 1 physical ounce, the price of 1 ounce gets multiplied 5 fold to equalise the ratio. Everybody wins, so long as the world doesn't collapse. Physical holders benefit from the balancing and appreciation from spot price rising. Paper holders benefit from spot price rising. Of course it's better to be a physical holder here, but don't act like paper holders get completely screwed. Places like Royal canadian mint are crown corps anyway so I expect the gov't to bail them out if shit hits the fan. And if we get to an apocalypse scenario, i'd rather have food and ammo.

Just started my stacking. 1oz Gold and 50oz silver to start me off. OK premiums on the Gold, and a little shit on Silver but meh. IM a leaf and the market here is fucked due to lockdown.

Not going to sell for the next 20 or so years. I would buy more if and when prices drop.

>>18358777
Checked.
And can confirm. Was one of the fags panic buying. Good news is the gold I got is up enough to cover the silver I got. And the silver can't be bought for less than what I paid at spot.

>>18359821
Nice man, good to grab while you can. Who knows what the next year will be like.

>>18350157
The last order I put in took a little over 20 days from the time I clicked order until I had it in my hand.

>>18360937
Do you think it worth paying the extra to buy on ebay to get it in a few days? I would be paying like 250 more overall for 100 oz

Redpill me on junk silver

>>18360546
>Who knows what the next year will be like.
Ya pretty much. Either hold on to what I have or buy more of the market deflates significantly.

Honestly, my stack is a hedge against a literal market collapse. Otherwise, Ill cash out when I'm an old fuck or give it to my kids.

Also, not PM or finance-related, but I have fallen in love with home-smelting vids. Making copper, Nordic gold, junk metal bars is fucking cool.

>>18361395
Basically US coinage prior to 1964 that was 90% silver. $1.40 face value of coinage is equal to a little over 1 oz of silver

>>18361716
noice kit. i got the same one. don't let the bottle of sanitizer get crushed on the inside, i had one explode

>>18361735
It's C U T E like a pandemic MRE

5 oz bats at MM. They were selling ASE for 20 bucks each but instantly got sold out

Why do you faggots care so much about what animal or person or object is stamped on your metal bullion? Paying extra for a "cool" design, you might as well go buy gold grills and chains. Are you a coin collector or a bullion stacker?

>>18361608
>Honestly, my stack is a hedge against a literal market collapse. Otherwise, Ill cash out when I'm an old fuck
Same here (different ID same anon), I've dumped some money in while the prices are low for that reason. I just want to have some of my wealth in physical and not fiat in case of the worse. And hell, if things don't fall apart, I can flip it in a few years and at least get my money back.

Smelting is really cool, I've mainly watched aluminum videos on YT but it looks like a cool hobby that you could make a little money on the side if you wanted to.

>>18361841
Larry has the shiney ones supposedly

>>18361852
The fuck are you rambling about smooth brain?

>>18358680
I personally dont fuck with 40% silver. Why not just get some mercury dimes?

>>18347026
Do you think Larry8241 knows that he has become a meme? Does he lurk /pmg/? Larry if you're reading this give us a sign.

>>18362137
He probably posts here

>>18362064
Can't find any Mercury dimes for a good price. MM has the 35% war nickels for $1.75 over spot. With everything being sold out, it's the best premium price I've seen in a couple months.

>>18361395
it's junk
if you have any, send it to me and I'll dispose of it for you

>>18359232
I have 100oz Silver and 5oz Gold. Will I make it?

>>18349600
checked. Monument Metals has them for $112.60. Bit the bat so to speak and got another one. I was thinking about a second but decided to play it safe and see what the price is later in the year. I've dropped a lot in the last two months.

>>18362064
dropped it down to a $2 roll, mainly getting in case of SHTF. I'll hold on to them indefinitely. I've set my stack set up 50/50, half if I want to flip and half to hold on to physical.

>>18361852
someone is seething because he didn't get a batboi

>>18358707
JM is usually pretty good about their estimates. When I ordered it was a 2 week estimate and I received it within about 2 weeks

>>18358707
Yes I ordered right around the crash with $300 min orders, it took them about 2 weeks total, maybe slightly over.

>>18362516
>18x for 40% junk silver
anon..i

>>18363147
$1.75 over spot. Lowest premium I've seen in a while. Silver is silver and I have enough rounds and not enough fractional. See >>18362516

>>18361852
Pretty sure that people even coin dealers aren’t as rational as you assume. They like what looks shiny clean and most important of all, trustworthy.

ASEs, Canadian gold maples and Krugerrands are the easiest to sell although anything from major western mints like gold sovereigns are fine too.

Weird rounds, bars that could be fake or not be the metal they are supposed to be, coins minted by weird countries some people haven’t even heard of or China or whatever are still valuable but aren’t as liquid, just the facts.

>>18361865
>Smelting is really cool, I've mainly watched aluminum videos on YT but it looks like a cool hobby that you could make a little money on the side if you wanted to.
Iv followed a channel called 'bigstackD Casting'. He does basic metals but it comes out dope none the less. If I have the time and space I would do the same for kicks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3dgT8WvH6k

She came, lads!

>>18363481

Obviously minted metal from a reputable source matters to a certain extent. But beyond that it doesn't matter at all.

>>18363648
Also bought my daily silver eagle right now. Damn these prices are so high

>>18363726
>daily silver eagle
What's your monthly income? Do you have any other investments or just stacks?

>>18363737
My monthly income is based on work that comes in. I just slap tools on air units until they work properly. I'm in Texas so work is always flooding my life even if Godzilla and aliens were attacking. I only take one day off a week and typically my workdays are 10 hours long. I invest in rare comic books, rare historic currency, bullion, gems, rare anime figures that I buy and then flip for a profit, and invest in old oil french and British paintings for self pleasing.

>>18363773
Sounds pretty based anon, hope you bought a batboi!
t. 13 oz stacklet

>>18363627
That is bad ass. I'd actually never heard of Nordic Gold before. Just creating that ingot must be very satisfying. Personally I enjoyed wood working when I had the equipment, but metal work is the ultimate crafting imo.
>that stack at the end
>bigstackD
He lives up to to his username

>>18363800
I have this weird mental illness that prevents me from buying silver above an ounce. I sadly do not have a blessed batboi to sanctify my collection.

>>18363274
That's comic sans

>>18363844
I like the british 2 oz horsies. They're thicc as fuck.

>>18363843
Not that guy, but I feel like an asshole since I've followed BigstackD since his first video and always just implied in my head that /biz/ knew of the guy. Any metal pouring in a chunky little square mold and has that brownie-like look to it makes me jizz my pants.

My penis wants me to buy this. Do I do it?

Also, for keks

>>18363882
The chunky junk flips my pickle. Something about the texture tickles my tism. I don't follow many metal working channels though, I'll have to watch some more of BSD.
>>18363899
Checked and sexy
>>18363914
Is it just me or would it be better if it was "year of the xratx bat" and a coronavirus silhouette with batwings?

>>18363994
Chunky handpoured bars are the only large OZ things I'll accept desu kek

>>18363648
cool, bare boobs

>>18342312
>>>/trash/
>>/trash/
/trash/
>>/trash/>

>>18364161
Boobs on gold and silver is beyond perfection

>>18364290
What about gold on boobs and tits

>>18364309
cocaine is better

>>18364342
Gold tits on cocainum

Why are these so expensive yet popular?

>>18364309
Fucking kek

>>18361395
Its boomer tier trash.

A dealer sent me some of the dicpicted bars. Any idea on who minted these?

>>18363627
Oh good tip, my silver casting grain came in finally, but i wont be melting it. I'll be trading individual grains for mother daughter blow jays.

>>18364913
What am I looking at here? Gold, Silver, Copper coins? Silver in the baggies?

>>18364998
Yea copper is aesthetically pleasing to me and very cheap. Silver grains 5 oz and 25 oz baggies. Can get .999 at almost spot and .925 at or below spot. I melt it and make stuff usually but not right now desu.

>>18364913
>I'll be trading individual grains for mother daughter blow jays.
based

>>18364890
NO ITS NOT TAKE THAT BACK!

>>18364906
CNT minting.

>>18365077
Thought so. How is stacking copper coins? I can only imagine the premium on those fuckers.

>Question for /PMG/
What percent should I convert my savings into PMs? I am at 30k in the bank and waiting on a 4kish buy into silver and gold coin for the first time. so just over 10% right now. Should I be going higher... go all in and not be a fiatfag?