/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18327031
nth for anime tits

>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-06/next-stimulus-to-be-at-least-1-trillion-pelosi-tells-democrats

>more checks

FUND MY GAMBLING ADDICTION

I bought the dip

Who else is going all in on rtx and other defense stocks

>>18327031
My entire portfolio is dividend stocks. Am I smart yet?

Is JUNG or gold in general actually good or is it a meme?

>>18327056
i haven't received any from my UTX

All bull and bear team shit aside I really think todays bump is unsustainable with such low volume and the sentiment not really being behind the move up. I think we'll get down to the 210-230s again then make a surprisingly quick recovery back to the 300s by August. Once ventilator production ramps up and there is a halfway decent drug therapy available things will start to open back up. The purpose of flattening the curve was to allow time for production and hospitals to tool up. We probably won't be allowed to have gatherings of 25+ people for a while. Non essential businesses will have to adapt somehow to allow for lower volumes of people to be inside their stores.

What do you guys think?

I haven't seen anything except that one fligerfaust article regarding a domestic air grounding, anyone got tastier sauce?

also the DIX is falling

Since the government and fed are in it together to prop stocks up, what stocks do I go all in on for big gains?

>>18327037
we're basically just monkeys +1
we weren't meant to be filling out forms and paying taxes
we need to be out in nature hunting game with spears and fucking raw on the beach
but the nerds fucked it all up for us
it's all fucked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65rYBkAz0X4

>>18327067
gold is really just a hedge against fiat fuckery, not really a great speculative bet

>>18327031
desu im rlly hoping market crashes tomorrow
used dip today to buy puts
will weep tiny tears if it spikes again

>>18325549
>we get to enter the marvelous eternal confusion of dream reality

>>18327065
you're not truly smart until your portfolio is 60% stocks, 40% bonds, and you're comfortably retired, mowing your lawn at 5 am and writing furious letters to the HOA everyday and sometimes yelling at the Mexican guys outside Home Depot and sending your estranged daughter belligerent texts in all caps

>>18326378
Coronavirus just accelerated peoples innate boomer tendencies. Time to keep money under the mattress in case a Chinaman decides to eat a rat, a cat, or a bat. People are buying guns, women are learning how to cook, and I'm here reading Carrier financials instead of playing M&B2: Bannerlord.

>>18327084
i hold 38 GLD call contracts and i feel like i'm making a killing off speculation.

>>18327065
And what makes dividend stocks any smarter than those without?

>>18327105
Same bro, got hundreds of SLV calls too

>>18327065
>missing out on volatility train
Depends on what sectors those divies come from. Lazy or stupid.

>>18327103
ah bro you're making me sad
don't be so precise next time

>>18327096
HOA = not comfy period

>>18327072
Priced in anon
WERE HEADED TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

>>18327103
>women are learning how to cook
Good one anon. Next you'll be saying they're cleaning again too.

>>18327056
Already did.

>>18327103
Women are learning how to spend my money even faster.

>>18327136
Should I buy and hold CCL for mega gains if it ever hits it's highs again?

>>18327124
>HOA = not comfy period
i once parked my beamer outside of my own house, and got sent a boilerplate letter from the HOA threatening to tow the car because it was "abandoned" and our neighborhood doesn't allow overnight parking. i'd left the car out for 2 nights. apparently that constitutes "abandoned."
i still wonder which of my insane elderly neighbors is responsible for it.
thank god corona will probably kill them

>>18327072
we still haven't even had our lehman moment yet. bear markets do not last merely a few months.

This is the real red pill

>>18327072
I don't look at volume so I can't comment.

The market should get more bullish.

I actually took profits on qqq at the close and let my gold ride. I feel like a big brain for once

Can smg explain something to me?
So if I sell a covered call at a strike price very close to the current price of the stock, the premium is more because of the "risk" but the consequence is... I give you my 100 stocks that I already bought at a lower price. So the consequence of the strike price for me is... I didn't get the gains I could've got from holding? Why... Would I not just do this again and again with the same stock?Buy for 10 strike at 11. Oh no you hit my strike price, thanks for the 50 dollars or whatever, take your prize... oh wait you still have to buy the prize from me... For 11 dollars and I paid 10 ... I... Am the loser in this?

What am I missing here? Why can't I purposely set a price I know will trigger so I can just collect premmies?

>>18327166
what model is it
I always wanted an e46, but I never had one
maybe someday

feeling bvllish

>>18327085
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonine_Plague
>Rafe de Crespigny speculates that the plague may have also broken out in Eastern Han China before 166, given notices of plagues in Chinese records.
Every fucking time.

>>18327189
Yes

>>18327031
Is anyone shorting the housing market?

>>18327072
We crab up to SPY 277 this week for the 50% retrace short squeeze, then we teeter into the pits of hell when our "pearl harbor" week isn't even the beginning

>>18327189
if the stock moons you miss out on tons of gains
if you sell a put and it tanks to zero, you're also getting raped

>>18327207
me buy boat load of IVR O_O

>>18327189
You buy for 10, sell the call for 11, it goes to 12 and you get assigned then before you can buy back in it goes to 13 and you can't afford 100 shares anymore so no wash rinse repeat for you, goy

>>18327207
i mean nrz is at 3.43 i am actually thinking about longing soon after the april job numbers

>>18327199
e36 is the patricians choice

>>18327169
all approximately true in the long term

stocks only go up forever

>>18327216
>if you sell a put and it tanks to zero, you're also getting raped
This can't happen to a major index, r-right?

>>18327225
Or, you know, you buy for 10, sell a call for 11, and the price goes to 6 and never comes back up so now you have 100 shares worth 6 dollars each that you bought for 10, oh and a little premium. No free money

>>18327171
I think they will in time but I don't know that unemployment and a total lack of consumer confidence around the GLOBE have fully appreciated.

>>18327189
if it goes way up, you gain less than you would've
that's it
you seem to grasp the fundamental qualitative art of it (do I make money or do I not); but you might not understand the explicit math of it, the quantitative part.

The best /smg/ example is dobber. He's smart: he found a great stock and executed a great strategy. He was selling covered call on AMD. He made good money on that last year.
BUT he lost overall in opportunity cost; if he had been BUYING the same AMD calls that he was selling, he would have made a lot more in 2019. a MASSIVE amount more if you consider compounding.

it's one of those things you have to do some math or experience over time to understand. two sides to the coin, or something like that...

>>18327206
Are you serious? This seems retarded though. Why would anyone ever buy a call? Why are they giving me money for the privledge of... me selling my stock to them for a profit? Who are these people?

>>18327232
>>if you sell a put and it tanks to zero, you're also getting raped
>This can't happen to a major index, r-right?
If it does you have bigger problems than your stock losses

>>18327222
I like it
I like it a lot

>>18327229
yeah take a risk right there go for it
me too

>>18327222
why?

Fun fact: puts are actually overpriced compared to calls (in general) since many use them as a hedge on a routine basis

I figured it would be the other way around since it takes some risk and courage to go contrarian

>>18327262
if you risk 343 (100 shares) and sit on it for 6 months you have a huge upside

>>18327269
Good cuz I've been selling a lot of SOXL puts lately and I must say the gains have been pleasant. Thanks paypig bears

>>18327215
This seems likely. Is 277 where you think the next support is?

>>18327269
that's the demand side
there is the supply side to consider as well (sell/ask)

lots of calls go down in value because the buy-write trades are getting crowded by funds who are seeking to achieve yield for their boomer clients at the same time as bond yield is super low
some of the same thing is going on sell-side with puts but to a lesser degree right now

I wrote like 2-3 posts on it 6 months ago

>>18327274
go for it bb

>>18327274
NRZ does mortgage securities though, they're an mREIT so it's more complex. Like BPY as a real estate play, it's high end so more tenents are gonna pay rent cause they know they're getting evicted otherwise.

>>18327136
>>18327072
i have to agree with the moon guy. most pandemics don't event result in any bear market, and there doesn't seem to be any house of card situation like 2008.

yes i think shit is going down over the next 6 months, but i also think they'll be printing so much money that equities are going to float on the biggest lake of debt imaginable.

buy gold and bitcoin, but i wouldn't short equities after the US is seeing 1k deaths per day and the market still isn't tanking.

>>18327122
All over.

>>18327031
Where are my bull bros out? Straight V shaped recovery to the moon. I just mortgaged my house and went all in on the market.

>>18327124
>HOA = not comfy period
This. Wouldn't buy a house in an HOA.

>>18327313
when they said it would be a "v-shape" recovery, i knew it was going to continue to drop.

when they said it would now be a "u-shape" recover, I figure it will now go straight up.

>>18327229
I'm already in it for the long haul, since it was one of my stocks I've done the most DCAing into. It's either going to pay off big or I learn that anyone, myself included, can be burned in the stock market

>>18327096
thanks frendinero, I'm like 80% there already

>>18327330
For me, it's W-shaped.

>>18327313
we don't believe you unless you post it

>>18327322
unless the fees are reasonably low AND you already know at least two homeowners in the HOA who tell you it's a good community
if you know people, it's better. if you don't know anyone, then fuck no

>>18327293
>ABR might be the better play

>>18327304
Don’t underestimate aggressive shorting, and the markets propensity to oscillate downward.

When hedge funds get bailed out, the first thing they should do is take their first hand knowledge of the situation and short this motherfucker into oblivion..

>>18327243
So its more a question of finding a stable stock, unlikely to moon for long periods of time? I could always run the risk of being retarded and not selling at a good point when it moons. I am also very good at pulling out of a rally too early. I had tesla i bought for 300 and I pulled out at 630 and it went to 900. What about a strategy of using the premium to purchase other more high risk reward stocks? Let someone else foot the bill on say WTI?

>>18327203

Please stop posting these. I dont want to be attracted to cartoons.

>>18327341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_24GUWdSM&t=3210

Pretty good explanation, albeit this was made before oil kamikazed

>>18327304
Most pandemics don't destroy consumer confidence like this one has. This has never happened before. The debt bubble problem has largely be solved by the fed but that doesn't fix everything. I agree there will be more short term pain and then we moon once the public gets told it's safe to go outside

>>18327345
>we don't believe you unless you post it
I would but my financial advisor said it's not a good idea to post it.

>>18327301
>>18327293
here is BPY added to the mix

>>18327374
>>18327356
i live in the city and everyone's out and about, eating at food carts, biking and jogging, the highway is still clogged, and the fine wine aisle is packed.

i think we're gonna be gucci.

Why does no one know the future?

>>18327166
We've gotten like five letters from our HOA telling us to clean up the "tree damage" on our street adjacent outer wall. For years we've been getting these vague letters. Turns out the tree & damage were across the fucking street from us. No idea who owns them.

>>18327360
ah the point is: if you find a stock that you KNOW is going to moon (compared to the IV that the options market is pricing in) you buy calls
it's not better to sell covered calls on a stock that is going to PUMP or going to crab from your perspective, you just want to make sure it doesn't go down.
If it moons, it's fine, but just sub-optimal. If it goes down, that's the issue.

options are complex because of the two extra variables: time and strike.
the way to simplify it is to try and think on both sides of the trade: what value is the buyer getting, what value is the seller getting.
Options as an instrument were meant for hedging and positioning originally, not for wild leveraged speculation. if you make options buying/selling the main thrust of your strategy, you had better know what you're doing ! much better to make buying stocks your main focus and use options as a side project (if at all) IMO

Greed sucks bros :(

>>18327397
I live in Chicago and roads are maybe 25% of normal traffic and seems like most people are not out and about.

I really want to take advantage of this, but I have no idea what to buy. Any advice?

>>18327421
SOXL

>>18327346
>>18327383
bro I'm not smart enough to understand all of these number that you are posting
anyway, the most important thing is that those numbers are based on the PAST earnings reports and are worth much less in this new world. If you are a REIT analyst you can look at their holdings and project new numbers, but if not:
just buy some of the ones you like and hold on tight

>>18327417
nah it's fine

>>18327420
Dupage rep

>>18327207
shorting REITs via DRV
>>18327222
wait WHAT? WHY???

>>18327398
Everyone knows the future once it happens. Before then it doesn't exist. So the future IS NOT. It doesn't exist in the present. How could you know something that doesn't exist?

>>18327345
>if you know people, it's better
Lol still a pass. Especially when some of these houses cost almost the same as mine but end up saving you less when hoa fees are included plus being cucked.

>>18327397
Long island here, roads are beautifully empty. Fucking love it.

>>18327421
Sunday was all bad news, causing the market to go up. Since Monday was relatively good news, you can pick up some inverse short ETFs as the market will definitely drop overall.

>>18327074
DIX still in bull territory, no? and GEX now positive.

I literally don't know how to code to run tests based off this shit, and I'd be lying if I said I understood it all.

I don't fucking know I may have shorted a generational bottom, but it'll tank when I capitulate.

>>18327412
Aren't covered calls basically free money on robust companies though? Basically free dividend on non-dividend stock.

>>18327449
Futures still look green you dubby

>>18327449
That's what I did

>>18327432
Grew up in Dupage, living in Oak Park now

>>18327460
Which ones?

Is there any working CNBC pirate streams?

>>18327282
277 is the top of the wick before the next AAAAAAAAAAAA cycle

>>18327455
yeah
I've posted "BUY KNG" at least 100,000 times over the last year for this very reason
BUY KNG
KNG

>>18327469
hope you don't get coofed on
I live in Lisle, I never go to cook

>>18327473
the same bloomberg one in the OP works for cnbc
https://123news.tv/cnbc-live-stream/
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/

>>18327430
i will be trading options on this tomorrow, thanks for the advice

>>18327398
only the time ghosts in the FFVII remake know what happens

>>18327383
What application is that?

>>18327432
>https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/ev-revenue-multiple.asp

I think the takeaway is... buy BPY

>>18327473
https://123news.tv/cnbc-live-stream/
Here's a bloomberg tv stream as well.
https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
Think or swim also has streams of cnbc in asia europe and americas. So you can essentially watch that 24/7

>>18327503
atom.finance

>>18327473
Cnbc is only watchable a couple hours before, during, and after market hours.

What do I invest in

>>18327512
Yeah I've heard thinkorswim has that but I'm not a customer of theirs so I cant get it then right?

What happens at the OPEC meeting?

>>18327527
man, they're beaking the game trying to capitalize on arena hype...just stay away from physical my fren. Times of epic gain are over

>>18327527
do you even follow the thread? this is actually one of the more quality ones tonight.

>>18327512
What's the point in Bloomberg pirate streams when the official stream is free?

>>18327491
Thanks senpai

>>18327518
Sure but I asked during trading today and all I got was AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAposting

>>18327529
Just use robinhood, you dont know enough for thinkorswim

>>18327533
I'm betting on nothing being done but headlines will be selling it as good news despite that. Seems par for the course.

>>18327437
whats your position on drv. was looking last week when it was at 32. gapped up to 39 one day out of the blue. now back to around 30 as im sure youre aware. What is your exit number?

>>18327533
Price fixing and back stabbings.

also you guys better not be shaking my dick with the BPY suggestion because I bought in

Fuck this clown market. I am so sick and tired of idiots dumping money into bullshit and raising the prices so here's the plan; long non leveraged etf and inverse etf. When the zoomers and Jerome pump the etf is sold and when it tanks like it should the inverse is sold. The only real risk here is that it never goes down to the point where the inverse etf will make money but come the fuck on, it's bound to burn. Anyways see you retards at the finish line

>>18327527
Ikoria feels incredibly childish, and the new mechanics are terrible for playing in paper. I don't even know what WotC is doing anymore, so definitely don't invest in Hasbro. They should fire the entire playtest team.

>>18327546
why? tell me an objective reason to not to think that this set will make the game worse.
Never heard of yugioh meta or hs meta?
both of them collapsed bad by moves like that, every experienced player would understand this but mtg ones are too cocky to fear simple math rules

>>18327529
For now use robinhood for your trading. However you can get a free account with level 2 access. I wouldn't advise you trade there just yet. But you can look around and get acquainted with a proper trade terminal.
While you're at it, there are educational sections in there as well. Highly recommended. And if you have the time read the intelligent investor and securities analysis. This will give you enough of a fundamental and theoretical basis to begin investing.

>>18327575
at least someone with a brain

>>18327564
of course, but does the trump wield enough power to cut supply? It doesnt seem like he has much leverage at the moment

>>18327577
what the fuck are you (you)ing me with this weeb card game faggotry? I have no knowledge about your goyioh cartoon game

the hedgefunds are gonna DUMP tomorrow right or am I misreading the low volume today

>>18327607
I have unironically been convinced to be team RIET cheapies

>>18327574
This isn't unexpected. Dead cat boounces usually happen after the first leg down. Just throw half in a 1x short and the rest into a 3x short if the market ends up climbing higher than you'd like

>>18327606
>your goyioh cartoon game
kek

>>18327533
I think it's ultimately all on Russia. Trump has stated willingness to lower military aid to SA so they'll likely be weakly incentivized to propose a cut, but there's no such incentive for Russia. If an agreement is made, expect it to be minor cuts from all parties.

US domestic oil production will likely slow regardless of the conclusions of the meeting. A 20% cut was proposed in Texas to be decided on mid-late April. None of this addresses the bigger issue which is poopy demand.

>>18327603

Trump can slap a $10 tariff and make them figure their own shit out. At that point it's no longer in their bests interests to keep burning oil.

did anyone already file for unemployment?

>>18327607
priced in

>>18327642
yes sir, in auto collision. nobody is out driving so nobody wrecks their cars

>>18327569
I strongly believe BPY is not a good choice right now. Their balance sheet is not too good and the technicals scream 'sell'. It's also about to be downgraded by moody's. TTM payout ratio is almost 100%.

>>18327642
No but I put in for the 10K grant since I have sole proprietorship over a very small operation of buying and selling shit on the side. I'm counting on that, the additional 1.2K and my regular 2K paychecks every 2 weeks for investing while we are shut down with pay. I wanna walk out of this crisis a bit richer than I walked into it

>>18327665
yea i wouldnt touch bpy

>>18327412
I literally never know when a stock will moon. I never make option plays on upcoming news or when my butthole twitches just right. I held Tesla at loss for a year and a half to get the tasty double. But I literally hadn't the feintest clue it would at that time. I cannot time the market for shit. But I have been pretty sussceful at " oh this shit is gonna be huge somewhere in the next 5 years." I just feel it will eventually control a massive swath of the auto and ai market. Hell maybe even medical at this point.

But I well experiment as reccomend on sell covered calls on something boring and low cost

>>18327563
Heh. Hehe.
If I get back to basis I’ll be very happy
(I bought the top again)

>>18327671
dude big brain move

>>18327031
DOW JONES WILL CLOSE GREEN TOMORROW AS WELL

>>18327533
It's all on Trump to convince domestic suppliers to cut production (aka violate antitrust law aka defacto join OPEC+). Or else Russia will not cut which will mean the Saudis will not cut.

>>18327527
Damn it Rudy...
>>18327518
Thank god for that, I don’t even have time these days to listen to their podcasts, then throw in the other finance podcasts and the el-erian appearances at the articles I keep saving but never get around to reading and... goddamn it’s so much work to be losing money like this.

>>18327268
it had like 90% drop
yeah whatever margin call blah blah blah
what am lenders gonna do acquire 1000 hectates of land and manage it better than IVR?

it deserves be atleast $5

>>18327533
No Idea but I am buying 100 bucks of some one of these oil companies because holy shit a share is like a fucking dollar.

>>18327640
What does a tariff from one country do in a global oil trade? not trying to be vicious, thats a serious question.

I can’t wait to see pink wojaks tomorrow. :)

>>18327705
what shares are a dollar?

>>18327700
Build condos?

God damn it I really did buy the top of DRV didn’t I?

>>18327705
If you trust your instinct, buy call options 2 months out

>>18327706
Same thing as age restriction on beer. You get your friend or older brother to go buy it for you.

>>18327706

The US is a major consumer market for oil. They basically can't just ignore us if we put a tariff baseline down, they have to deal with that. It bites into their revenue even harder and gives our domestic producers the slightest bit of life and wiggle room which would negate the intention of Russia/SA to effectively kill off all of them for a long time. It's kind of a brute force measure but it's effective when we're talking about a brute force measure like mass dumping of a commodity to kill global competition.

>>18327616
REITs don’t get cheap, they disappear.

>>18327671
based. i buy shit at thrit stores and resell but my yearly sales are only like a couple grand at most, i wonder if i could apply for one. ive never included taht shit in my filed taxes though so i dont know if i want to open that pandoras box of the IRS expecting me to declare taht shit every year from now on or get audited

>>18327737
>pandoras box of the IRS expecting me to declare taht shit
yeah... that's why i dont want to apply for a grant for my oddjobs biz or whatever

>>18327729
>only risking what you can afford
even if they go to zero it is honestly worth the risk

>>18327056
14/hour wagie from the last thread here. Made my research and queued 12 shares for RTX, or half of my total bank account.

>Why yes, i have no idea how trading works and will become homeless if my bet doesn’t work but i still went all in based on yahoo, 4chan and a couple of articles on the internet. How could you tell?

>>18327729
even risking 1k on IVR could potentially net you a 1400% gain in a year.

>>18327229
NRZ is going to fine for bankruptcy bros I’m not even memeing
>t. I work there

>>18327714
WTI is like a buck 70
>>18327721
I trust them enough to just buy 100 bucks of it. If I do a call its on DHT who may get more contracts to hold all the excess oil. But even that is like... 7-8 bucks. If I could just buy a big fucking drum of oil I'd do that. I know fuck all about these oil companies except that they have been awash with oil before and didn't die.

I may just be feeling too bold because I half spidey sensed half lucked into liquidating precrash and lost only 10% of gains

>>18327728
How are you playing this leading up to the OPEC meeting/conference?

>>18327757
Raytheon is a good investment.

>>18327642
I need to file for the leafland stimulus not-unemployment unemployment thing. Work sent my forms over to government today and I think I may be able to start the application tomorrow.

>>18327773
Proof or fuck off

>>18327773
so short it? post proof is so bro

>>18327757
RTX is safe and good, fren, enjoy your very own piece of the military industrial complex

>>18327773
Bulllll shiiiiiit no way!

They already slashed their dividend 90% and now the fed and treasury is going all in on propping up small businesses, and buying mortgage backed shit.

>>18327795
>tfw sold the bottom in LMT
>NOW I sold the bottom in RTX
WELL FUCKKKKKKKKKK

>>18327788
>>18327789
No. I’m not doxxing myself, go back to r*ddit. Do you dumb niggers have any idea what NRZ even does? Nobody is giving us any money, we are filing, I’ve already been laid off.

Can anyone explain to me how the demand for natural gas works exactly? Is it related to oil prices?

>>18327819
You dont dox yourself by posting a letter header, a badge logo, anything that says NRZ.

only 24 more days until Bowl America reopens. Im a monster

Does biz have any recommendations for career paths. I'm 23 and about to graduate with a Poli-sci masters is it possible for me to find work outside of the US that pays well?

>>18327850
this is a stocks thread dude gtfo

>>18327868
I'll pay you in MRO shares when they moon.

>>18327850
Get involved with the Jewish community befriend a good amount of them. They'll know a guy who knows a guy who can get you into either media or politics. Trust me.

>>18327830
The most relevant use case for natty has in terms of price movements is interior heating. For this reason, prices are known to move in response to long range forecasts indicating colder or warmer winter. Colder increases demand because people use heating more which in turn raises the price. And opposite for warmer. This winter, for instance, was warmer than average and nat gas price slumped earlier this year and late last because of the expected lesser demand.

Nat gas is closely tied to oil price most of the time as it is a byproduct of the drilling process.

>>18327872
So, never?

>nothing but horrible economic news all day long
>stonks go up
splain

>>18327873
as little as ten years ago I would have said that's racist and ridiculous. Now, having associated with several I know it to be a true fact. You meet a jewish person and ask them if they know or know someone who knows somebody working in those fields, they will identify someone no further removed than friend of a friend.

>>18327881
It has a higher chance of happening than GUSH and REFR.

>>18327888
It's a fucking conspiracy, no one truly knows why the market goes up and down...

Is Bojo gonna finna bouta die?

>>18327902
it's going up because rona virus is settling down and it isnt the apocalypse

>>18327665
>>18327674
nice vid thats summarizes the current situation with BPY. I think it's doing much better than other REITs and has the back up of a huge asset manager (BAM). Do not be mistaken, BAM is probably the better buy, but if you wanna do reit's then bpy probably has the least chance of blowing up in your face.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY-dxABmoNM

>>18327911
Priced in and BVLLISH.

>>18327773
>NRZ is going to fine for bankruptcy bros I’m not even memeing
Quoting to mark for archive look-up

>>18327911
>gonna finna bouta
can't even pretend to be black correctly, cringe

>>18327924
Are you trynna finna bouta imply that I'm not finna bouta pretending to be retarded right now?

Getting real sick of CNBC’s app bullshit. The headline of this article changes when you go to the actual article. “Will” becomes “May” which is very different. He didn’t say anything like that headline!

>>18327878
True but nat gas is produced largely from fracking, so if there’s less oil demand and shale shuts down, the supply of nat gas could quickly shift.

>>18327888
That’s not even close to true. Read the threads from this morning. I’m tired of spoon feeding the lazy.

how much denial are bears in that they take hope in this red futures?

>>18327941
>True but nat gas is produced largely from fracking, so if there’s less oil demand and shale shuts down, the supply of nat gas could quickly shift.
That is correct.

>>18327941
>True but nat gas is produced largely from fracking, so if there’s less oil demand and shale shuts down, the supply of nat gas could quickly shift.

In a positive manner for natural gas stocks or are they gonna get wrecked if the shale industry collapses?

>>18327941
Shit

Forgot pic for this clickbait shit

>>18327362

futures are doing stuff again

Should I hold Johnson and Johnson

>>18327968
green stuff? or red stuff?

>>18327986
greeny

>>18327992
yay!!

>>18327949
Don’t know what the stocks do, but the commodity futures could take off.
>>18327984
Yes. One of very few I’m holding in my IRA and hoping tank again because I’d like to keep DCAing down.

Leaf here, got my TFSA maxxed out with cheap blue chips. What do I do next?

Also is Boris Johnson still alive?

>>18327849
lmao
I hope (truly) that all the dead east coast boomers get back to hitting the lanes when that happens
I thought you sold out tho....

>>18327992
Oh, boy, here we go.

>>18328004
max your RRSP with RTX

>>18328004
>What do I do next?
cross your fingers and hope. I think Boris is still alive but in ICU.

>>18328012
>US stock in RRSP
Ooooooof!

Bear Jerky

>>18327850
you should have asked 5-7 years ago lol

>>18328063
where is your money tho
u long?

deaths are two week delayed+ and the shut down impact isn't as shown in numbers right now especially outside NY.

>>18328078
Long and staying long. There is way too much stacked up against shorts here.

Was short hard early feb/march tho

Have I become nearly the oldest tripfag that still posts here?
I know there's nikkei/ratsu but ratsu isn't a tripfag, and then there's LCIguy but the tripcode is leaked and he doesn't really tripfag very often. What other ancient tripfags are left?

>>18328088
o.o
big money boy

>>18327952
Canonically bllish.

>>18328096
huh

>>18328092
Me at 34. I stopped doing trips in 2017 under an aria trip

Tell me why I shouldn't go all in on Air Canada? There is no fucking way that the Canadian government is going to let a flagship such as Air Canada fail

>>18328092
no one cares about trips/ids, you are judged by the quality of your posts as always
post good shit and it counts
post bad shit and it counts against you
post medium shit eh

>>18328005
You can not just sell, I was 30% bowl america now just a bit under 20%. Its a beefy position that can never be unwound
I.Am.A.Monster

>>18328092
Secure tripcodes have been, and will always be, for fags.

>>18328116
Imagine actually believing this in nu4chan.

>>18328068
Trying to make the best of a situation. I am still young.

>>18327356
I think the most hilarious thing ever would be future historians explaining that the great depression 2.0 was averted because of too much media inspired shorting, (Twitter) and also people rage shorting to try to crash Trumps Market in historical numbers, which caused such a glut of shorts that the FED was able to cause an insane short squeeze that ended up ruining a lot of ((people)) and causing the biggest V shaped breakout of all time.

Its like they saw the shorts piling in and ruthlessly pumped longer then they could stay solvent, absolutely brilliant well played.

>>18328113
They let AC go bankrupt twice before, no reason to believe they won't again. Economy is in even more of a shit than the last 2 times, too. Then again,
>trudeau
>logic

>>18328130
23 is basically boomer age these days dude.

AMDCHADS WE RYZEN THE FUCK UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP

>>18328135
Well shit.

>>18328019
fuck him
how come there arent a bunch of body doubles for this? can't be a shortage of portly blonde men in the UK, then just deepfake him for some prepared speeches until he steps down for family reasons or some shit.

also, fuck him. he got the queen involved with his petty parliamentary games and sullied the dignity of the crown.

And he mismanaged this crisis so poorly that he didn't even protect himself. Fuck him.

>>18328088
god fucking damn it
as soon as I capitulate though...

>>18328113
bailouts can still fuck stockholders, see GM

>>18328113
>he doesn't remember the other times Air Canada went bankrupt
I miss how Westjet used to give out those little bags of cashews. Fucking post-9/11 air-jews ruining it.

>>18328116
Hey guys! get a load of this tard

>>18328126
Everyone has always fucking hated tripfags. Fuck off newfag

>>18328112
>Me at 34.
Is that your age? I meant length of tripcode usage.
>I stopped doing trips in 2017 under an aria trip
I think I used to post in the Robinhood general threads under a tripcode, but I don't think I'd be able to recall the name and password combination...
I think the name I used was something like "desu" or "desudesudesu". What was yours and how long did you use it?

>>18328138
Laptop Market Soon™

>>18327330

What about L shaped

>>18328159
I used trips from about 2008 to 2017 in various capacities. Just Aria. Nothing special. Used it in /b/ then flight on /sci/ and /g/ for nasa shit. And so on. Never bothered using either on any board that was full of autistic fucks.

>>18328135
So your saying I should end it then?

>>18328118
I hope you can ghost candle back up over 12 my love...
15 eventually if bowling survives once the boomers die maybe
you should have tried to sell it past-tense for your UDOW move last week

it's tough, that's a big stack in a little boat
the requiem of the spooky candles

>>18328159
I remember this

>>18328158
For a reason you and your zoomer ilk will never understand. But no worries, I'm sure the election tourists think of you as a 2014 ancientfag. Gotta keep your cred up am i rite?

>>18328119
>>18328116
You must be new here. Welcome, new frens :^)

>>18328185
Filtered.

>>18328172
you went into a pretty meh degree that relies heavily on connections

do you have any IRL connections to anything?

23 is still pretty young, you have a bunch of paths that can make it work
but if you graduate in a meme degree without any strong connections it makes it harder

>>18327247
Computers

>>18327773
>>18327819
>I work there
>I've already been laid off
That being said, I believe it could be one of the ones to go under. I've picked up some long puts on REIT shit because of all the companies deciding to not pay rent and I imagine all the people who aren't working who can't pay for their houses anymore. It's stock price has already been pretty much decimated anyways.

>>18328164
L shape is just U shape before the gap up

>>18328170
>I used trips from about 2008 to 2017 in various capacities.
Holy shit, that's a long-ass time
>Just Aria. Nothing special.
Ooooohh. I thought you meant Aria formatted text from Unicode rather than the literal word.
>Used it in /b/ then flight on /sci/ and /g/ for nasa shit. And so on. Never bothered using either on any board that was full of autistic fucks.
>/b/
>Never bothered using either on any board that was full of autistic fucks
Kek
Very interesting that you used a tripcode on /b/. I haven't been on this site long enough to have that opportunity.

>>18328180
Any idea how I can find the old tripcode on the archives? I'm interested in trying to guess the old password

>>18328135
>>18328140
>>18328172
23 is not boomer relax bros the joke is that if u take anything on biz seriously u are foolish like boomer but without his wisdom

>>18328185
>You must be new here.
Not really. We've chatted before, but bringing attention to the fact that you use a secure tripcode is always a fag move.

>>18328195
>Filtered.
Kek. Sounds like teh_profit is posting

>>18328135
tfw 27

brb jumping off a cliff

>futures blood red
Maybe we got too cocky bull bros

>>18328228
Theyre fucking flat dude.

>>18328217
holy shit i didn't understand why people hated tripfags but now i do this guy is fucking intolerable

ARE WE IN A FUCKING BEAR TRAP OR NOT, HOLY FUCK

>>18328254
How would we be in a bear trap?

Is race mixing bullish?

>>18327850
You can probably get into computer science. They'll take fucking anybody they can get when the market's running hot.

>>18328224
>Not really. We've chatted before, but bringing attention to the fact that you use a secure tripcode is always a fag move.
Here's a favor that may save you some time:
Go to the archives, look-up my trip with the search term "tripfag". I've been through arguments on this dozens of times. The fact that I'm still using my trip illustrates that my head is thicker than a rock, and we're not going to get anywhere with this discussion.

futures

>>18328254
in a normal world, we are most likely in a bear trap, yes. HOWEVER! nothing predicted has happened as so in this entire market disaster yet so the whole thing is a fucking gamble

>>18328254
>he doesn't know about the crab battles

>>18328254
you think amazon is going to $1,500 my guy? keep dreaming.

Is research frontiers a meme

>>18328228
They are green

>>18328250
he's good mostly, he's been too-much-amphetamines-mode for the past few days, don't judge him too harshly

>>18328227
nah its fine

Even the ecchi manga can see the writing on the wall...

>>18328263
Bull trap, fuck

>>18328268

Remember to be nice!

>>18328238
They were. They just hit the gas pretty hard in the last couple minutes though. +0.3 and climbing.

>>18328279
ok then no offense

>>18328250
I can't believe this is your first time running into an obnoxious tripfag. They can ruin entire boards for months. Even if you filter, retards reply and suddenly 20% of every fucking thread is missing.

>>18328266
Is that jane?
What the hell man why are you talking shit on jane? She’s like the female equivalent of grizzly man. She’s wild. But also a lot smarter and more methodical than that crazy dumbass.

>>18328279
I thought he might be okay, but then I realized he’s actually even worse than galttard.

>>18327819
if thats true prove you own puts/shorts on the stock with a screenshot at least. it wont prove you work there but it will prove you put your money where your mouth is

>dude 95% of the country might be unemployed, homeless and starving but at least the stocks are doing good
how detached are stocks from the general well being of a country?

It's a bull trap but there's no reason not to ride the bull wave while you can. Real estate is companies have already started mass layoffs since March, and the real estate is not a market that will suddenly recover after a recession. With mass defaulting on loans that were legitimately low risk, we're going to see most of them crash. I timed my puts too soon though, and it might take until June before the real estate crash happens.

>>18327898
this. have a few rich jew firends and the networking they have is amazing

>>18328298
>Remember to be nice!
Why the fuck would I do that, faggot?

>>18328312
Stocks don't care. It's everything is priced in even their own ignorance.

EU open. pamp eet

>>18328267
>Fuck I suck at coding and isn't overplayed as a meme now that basically people just hire overseas pakis and indians to do computer science for them ala boeing.

>>18328250
I attach pictures of cute girls to my posts to make them more palatable :^)

>>18328322
cringe.

>>18328312
They’re based largely on speculation of what the future will bring, so they are essentially based on a reality which does not exist. In a sense, they’re completely unrelated. In another sense, they’re very deeply connected.

>>18328330
That's a man.

>>18328331
>cringe.

>>18328268
shes way too hot for him

>>18328171
everything is mooning again it is going to be a good week. Thank you Jesus for these easter gains.
There better be a picture of jesus in every thread for the rest of the week. screen cap this

>>18328322
Rude!

>>18328349
Net worth $300 million

being worth 300 million is so much better and rarer than being hot.

>>18327243
Wow, Achewood is still being pumped out.

>>18328295
do you think she dresses in tight leather for him and gives him leather glove handys before whipping his ass with a leather riding crop?

>>18328345
Whaaaaaat. It is??? How can you tell???

>>18328345
90% of the things he posts are mentally ill twinks. It’s part of his disgusting persona and probably a plea for attention.

CONSTANT VIGILANCE

>>18328347
What is that, a plague for ants?

>>18328355
Watchu gon' do 'bout it?

>>18328326
>>18328312
the way i think about this current stock market is this:
no one wants to sell their equities to others at a discount. the government will bailout certain people, and those people will take advantage of their position by buying cheapies or buttressing their own stocks.

it's a game of chicken right now, and everyone things there are 50% gains on the other end of this pandemic, so the smart money isn't tossing away their equities regardless of how many bartenders are out of work.

more importantly, this is true internationally too. If the US stock market tanks more than China's or the DAX or CAC, then those countries will buy up cheap equities in US businesses. this pandemic has caused a cold war of central banks: no one is going to let their equities devalue and allow other countries to purchase their country's valuable equity.

>>18328349
all you need is a networth of 300 million and you too can have a hot blonde 10/10 wife

>>18328351
>He doesn't know about the Good Friday selloff.

Take your thirty pieces of silver while you can.

>>18328364
what was with tuesdays in 2009

>>18328377
The exchanges are closed Friday.

>>18328308
Touché, my fellow /sci/ negro. She gets a pass

>>18328366
underrated post

>>18328370
Isn't that Musks ex?

Anyway I literally doubled my portfolio (500 -> 1k) on Spy calls when stimulus was announced, then lost 600 on a retarded spy put. Those are my two trades so far but I'm hooked.

>>18328328
>Fuck I suck at coding
I did too once. Some companies will actually pay to teach you
>people just hire overseas pakis and indians to do computer science for them ala boeing.
Hahahaha some companies fucking IMPORT them ala Amazon! Mind blowing shit, right?

>>18328370
shes not just hot, educated, actress, etc

If he wanted something to fuck he can get that 24/7

>>18328361
do you even have a portfolio

>>18328368
*ptooey*

>>18328392
Yeah. I'm holding over 500 shares of SPXL at this very moment.

>>18328391
maybe he has a giant 12" cock. sometimes dweeby looking dudes have monsters

>>18327774
What makes you think oil futures won't go negative like they did for the first time last week? I think the best route is buying a $4.5 or $5 put exp 4/17 on USO. I dont think Trump can get his way before the meeting on april 9th

>>18328409
well son of a gun

>>18328344
>the situation might be better in the future so the situation is good now
seems kind of silly, no?

>set to buy jnugs at market open (not extended)
>It's a pending order, looks good
>Midnight hits
>It auto submits the order and restricts me from buying anything for 90 days cause muh daytrading
What a fucking scam

>>18328418
Not really, because you're trying to put money where the money will be in the future, not where the money is right now. The market will always be future looking. If the future prospects of a company looks bad, nobody's going to invest in it.

>>18328391
Epitome of a trophy wife. I bet she even knows some tricks like how to play the piano or the harp.

Mn-chan is maybe the winningest of the Don crew, and he even knows to keep from taking too much attention away from Donnie.

>>18328411
I think she’s more interested in the thickness of his wallet. But I would be impressed if he were actually a really fun guy or something. I get the feeling he’s not.

>>18328418
It’s why it’s often called speculation.

>>18328434
but the future looks pretty shit now, at least for the next year or two. how long can stock holders keep holding high hopes?

>>18328390
>mfw coding is easy
Most jobs don't want you to think they just want you to write.


t. CSci Major

>>18328362
>90% of the things he posts are mentally ill twinks. It’s part of his disgusting persona and probably a plea for attention.
People bitch about anime girls, and I have a soft spot for cosplay girls. When I post real girls, shitposters accuse them of being trannies. I like replying to these accusations of tranny posting with actual men trying to LARP as girls.
It's a catch-22 that ends with me on top, fucking everybody with some rock-hard tranny dicks or smug anime girls

>>18328450
>how long can stock holders keep holding high hopes?
Going on a century now, bub.

What if stocks go down

Corriere Reports Italy May Start Gradual End Of Lockdown On May 4

>>18328450
People don't think the future looks shit for the next year or two. People believe that either Jerome's going to pump enough money, or all the stimulus spending is going to fix everything, or that COVID is going to be over in May, or that because the projections were off by a week everything will be good, or not wanting to miss the bottom to buy into the stock market, etc etc. There's a reason why most credible brokers say we are in a recession and that we haven't reached the bottom.

>>18328415
I just keep buying more and dabbing on the bears.
I posted that I'm not selling a single fucking share of SPXL until we hit a new all-time high, but surprisingly none of the bears post screenshots of that in the same fantastic way that we did with LCIguy

>>18328409
im holding 40 shares of SPXS at this very moment

>>18328456
>Most jobs don't want you to think they just want you to write.
I know. Does your company at least allow you to pick your own tools or do you have to write a "design doc" in attempt to convince your team to let you use your favorite tools?
>t. CSci Major
t. FAANG engineer

>>18328488
Are you holding over this weekend or dumping before Friday?
you don't think market is going to retest?

>>18328488
It's fine to ride SPXL up, but if you're actually waiting to reach ATH's you're going to get rebalanced out of all your money before then.

>>18328478
>Corriere Reports Italy May Start Gradual End Of Lockdown On May 4
That seems quick but at least they have a date to shoot for other than at some foggy point in the future when things aren't as bad.

>>18328513
Latter.

Nice. I don't want to go into FAANG because I just think it is annoying having to do all that studying for the interview and my prize is a 6 digit salary and being stuck living somewhere I don't want to live at. I'm happy here with less stress and being able to just play stocks.

>>18328509
>im holding 40 shares of SPXS at this very moment
That's only 600 bucks! Why are you such a little pussy?
The fucking LOT SIZE that I was buying SPXL in were at least 1000 bucks each

>>18328518
>Are you holding over this weekend or dumping before Friday?
>you don't think market is going to retest?
What in the absolute fuck do you mean by "are you holding over this weekend"???
What the fuck do you think I am? Some kinda little bitch?
I literally just fucking said I'm not selling a single fucking share until we hit a new all-time high and I fucking meant it!

Sam Girgis
@BioBreakout
Late stage COVID-19 patients on vents are hypercoaguable & have microangiopathic thrombi resembling TTP/HUS, confirmed on autopsies of COVID-19 patients. Our Intensivists use therapeutic lovenox on vent patients for AC. TPA also studied #COVID19 #SARSCoV2


Any thoughts if this will reduce death count in a meaningful way?

>>18328537
Just a reminder this tripfag bought SPXL at 40 dollars, please disregard anything he might have to say

>>18328520
>It's fine to ride SPXL up, but if you're actually waiting to reach ATH's you're going to get rebalanced out of all your money before then.
It would take a single day 33% nose dive for SPXL to get blown out like what happened to XIV.
I really am waiting until we hit a new ATH before selling.
I'll post my social security number before I sell. Screencap this, you little cuk

>>18328562
The market goes up now because there is confidence we are peaking, but does that actually mean anything for business?
That is the peak with out current shutdown. We still have to wait out the tail or risk an immediate resurgence and a new peak.

I don't see a return to complete normal even at the EOY. This is a news driven emotional market.
$1200 in trumpbux isn't going to sustain consumption with over 6 million still unemployed.

you may be holding a very poor long term investment for quite some time, and that pleases me greatly.

lmao
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-reportedly-has-financial-interest-in-hydroxychloroquine-manufacturer

>>18328578
>single day 33% dive
literally impossible

>>18328579
ask yourself

why did it peak so much earlier than anticipated? Even in places that didn't lockdown heavy.

things would be so much easier if everyone remembered the cardinal rule
>don't reply to tripfags

If America has a President and Vice President does the UK have a Prime Minister and a Subprime Minister

>>18328592
oh shit I bet he personally created the virus to get like $9 nonillion dollars

>>18327065
Most based person here bruv

resources

pastebin dot com slash c4EwtaYu

>>18328579
Ackman promised hell was coming and people believed him. Now we're seeing society didn't fall apart and maybe we have some hope of finding decent treatments. This anticoagulant shit shows promise.

So now the market is shifting from too pessimistic towards too optimistic, and blowing out my inverse etfs in the process.

>>18327031
Guys i think we will hit limit up soon on futures and have another 6-8% gain day, i srly think we have a V or W recovery as you wanna call it...buy in now or get rekt - i was one of the biggest bears and made a lot of money, but everything seems bullish nowadays. (except the fucking OPEC ruins it)

>>18328535
>Latter.
Woowwwww. Not even in FAANG and you have to do the whole design documents charade.
That was one thing I miss about non-FAANG is that I could pump out 1000 lines of code, and nobody bats a fucking eye.
Brand new files. Whole class abstractions, code style choices. A quick thumbs up in half an hour from the boss giving it a glance and my shit was in prod.

>Nice. I don't want to go into FAANG because I just think it is annoying having to do all that studying for the interview
I only did about 50 LC problems
>and my prize is a 6 digit salary
The pay is higher than I expected. I'm at 170k/year at an entry level position.
The principal engineers really do make 500k/year.
>and being stuck living somewhere I don't want to live at.
I like midnight food options, but SF really does sound like a shit hole.
I absolutely do NOT miss the fucking snow.
>I'm happy here with less stress and being able to just play stocks.
AWS is stressful as shit, but almost anything else isn't too bad.
My plan is to just do it a couple years, then pack up and use my skills to mow shit down as an exec back home.

>>18328576
AND I'LL KEEP BUYING TOO, YOU LITTLE PUSSY.
Post your portfolio, smol spec. I bet you're too much of a little bitch.

>>18328362
How do you hide people without going through every single post?

>>18328138
What will be 2016 AMD now?

>t. faggot that didn't listen to the AMD shills in 2016

april
heavy gains through first half of month, slower rate 2nd half of month

July
new ATH for stock market

>>18328579
I'm not going to read all that shit. I'm fucking holding until new ATH or I'll eat my fucking dick.

>>18328595
>>single day 33% dive
>literally impossible
Exactly!

>>18328606
You sound like a little bitch. Post your folio, pussy. I bet you're a smol speccy, just like your pp

>>18328599
>why did it peak so much earlier than anticipated?
We are just now seeing the results of our lockdown, but we have not peaked yet, because we have pushed the peak far off.
Too far off, which is actually the same problem swept under the rug and delayed.

Does this mean that, whatever is building right now is just going to come crumbling down when that reality hits? We haven't reached the bottom yet if that is the case.

>>18328681
we mooning

just not in the cards for this bear thesis

>>18327065
>My entire portfolio is dividend stocks. Am I smart yet?
Yes.
Un-ironically based.

>>18328695
Yes, we are entering the return to normal stage. I agree.

>>18328695
>just not in the cards for this bear thesis
A Cruel Bullfag's Thesis?
https://youtu.be/A6r79HxmKw8

>>18328705
there will be ground state changes post april

- weather changes
- behavioral changes
- treatment changes

It's not going to return to the state that led to the same sort of peaks from March in USA.

At the same time the top-star treatments like plasma / antibody will be hitting for Fall.

We likely won't have the sort of reaction that leads to -35% market again

Heeellllooooooo bearcucks!

I'm feeling BVLLISH.

>>18328715
My fucking sides!

>>18328568
>Any thoughts if this will reduce death count in a meaningful way?
It should.

>>18328715
forgot to add the testing capacity by may will be pretty impressive.

>>18328715
Just because we are in the eye of the storm doesn't mean it's over. It means the worst is yet to come.

>>18328735
not for the market

NEW NEW NEW

>>18328753

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>>18328753

>>18328753

>>18328753

>>18328651
Google how to filter on 4chan, should be easy