/biz/ - Business & Finance

Best time to dollar cost average is now.

I fucking love collecting premium. Buy my puts goy.

So are we finally bottoming out this week or next week?

>>18292464
Next month more likely.

repost

Hey! I have a question about options trading/positions.

I have four contracts on USO calls currently which are way way way up - oil will probably crash again on market open for Monday, right?

Working off of that theory - how likely am I to be able to sell my calls if I place an order for execution @ market open?
I'd like to rebuy more at a lower price (or, if I was smart and understood hedges, do both that and buy puts before the price spikes on them).

How likely is it for my order to fill?

>>18292464
We will be going down for a while.

>>18292464
March 23rd.

>>18292505
Have any higher ups actually spoken out about China lying? I mean look at their line, it's a fucking joke

My names retard and I'M a racist ...because projecting my insecurities onto other people is easier than dealing with my shortcomings.

>>18292505
kek

>>18292464
August
End of big swings by end of March
Slow bleeds of -1% every week until august

it is well possible that the real devastating damage to the stock market won't manifest for months

>>18292526
britbong government thinks the numbers are 15-40 times what chinks claim

>>18292526
Don't they just count people with actual pneumonia and not the total? Either way, I believe Italy and others have peaked.

Quick reminder that you're never going to make it if you're still bearfagging.
BUY SPXL, YOU FUCKING PUSSY

>>18292526
>1 month ago
>ITS NOT EVEN A FLU BRO, LOOK AT CHINA
>now
>WHAT THE FUCK, CHINA MUST BE LYING NOW
It's all so tiresome

Does DTO/SCO follow global crude oil price or US crude oil price?

How does one evaluate a stock, fund, or ETF based on their short term and long term returns?

>>18292560
Why would anyone listen to a tranny namefag?

>>18292560
You are out of your mind to buy any 3x ETF with this much volatility.

>>18292526
They wont say anything publicly. YET. They have to wait for the virus to pass and move out manufacturing. If China isn't in a civil war and starving by then, US will just blockade China.

>>18292483
pls respond by late sunday, I need to think about orders

lol

>>18292598
based

Remember that asset prices reflect all available information. :^)

bruh

This time it's different. It will never go up again.

>>18292447
maybe T-Bills

friendly reminder to never trust the chinese and taoism is for literal cucks

Wet markets are fine gwailo. Also can you sell us 200 thousand body bags?

>>18292638
Can you explain the point of that image? The chart is upside down. Also I’m new here, hi guys, excited to start buying in on Monday! ^_^

Thanks!

>>18292598
back to wsb

>>18292666
this is an unbelievably bearish post

>>18292666
It's a prophecy

>>18292666
>satan trips
>new tripfag

>>18292666
Oh wow, my first got!
>>18292683
Please don’t use that slur, thanks!

>>18292671
wsb and /biz/ are one and the same.

Movie night movie night! Get in here!
Tonight's feature is Cloverfield (2008), it's in New York and there's escaping in it, it's kind of the same thing
>>18292560
how does Mr. Scoops stay so based?

>>18292671
>wsb invented options
retard

>>18292562
>LK Since Post
>Down 19.72 (74.98%)

JFC! He must be on suicide watch by now.

This a good time to pick up some cheap LK's or will they always be a scam fucked company?

>>18292410
Imagine if you placed an OTM put on LK before closing on Wednesday

>>18292704
I’ve been browsing 4chin since 2008 and have never, ever visited R*ddit. Not even once. You have to go back, they have never and will never be even remotely similar.

>>18292527
>racism can only be a product of insecurity

Actually I might agree with that... depending on what your definition of racism is.

>>18292701
Ahh we're dealing with bait. Gotcha

>>18292577
>tranny
>implying I would

>>18292580
>You are out of your mind to buy any 3x ETF with this much volatility.
If now's not the time to buy, then when is?
How will you know when it's time to buy?
What better way to buy into this firesale than with SPXL, which is the optimal long-term leverage for the S&P?

>>18292709
>how does Mr. Scoops stay so based?
Bottomless pits of money and statistics to back you up.
The latest component of greatest that I've added to my arsenal is a book about hostage negotiation that I've been reading to help with shutting down the MBAs at work

Guys I need a better way of keeping track of my stock buys.

Pic related is my current system.
I just make a text file of each transaction.

Now that I'm doing a lot more trading and also using shorts and options this is no longer a viable method.

What do you people use? Should I just make an excel file.

>>18292666
Thanks or the heads-up, Satan.

>>18292527
Nigger

>>18292795
is your online broker a donkey?

>>18292795\
https://templates.office.com/en-us/stock-investment-performance-tracker-tm01023352

Microsoft already did this for you.

>>18292782
>shutting down le ebin MBAs
You're such a huge faggot dude.

>>18292795
inb4 you pay commission for this

I'm unironically considering taking the scoops pill and buying into SPXL, talk me out of it

Anyone else thinking about buying LK? Sure they lied about their financials, but they already fired their fall-guy & its not like they're going to go out of business over this

>>18292782
>If now's not the time to buy, then when is?
>How will you know when it's time to buy?
When the VIX calms the fuck down. 3x Bull ETF is better "fashionably late" than trying to catch the knife. Because you get fucked 3x as hard by the knife. Honestly if you really want to go pants on head retarded you can go to EU and get 10x Bull ETFs there. If you want to gamble that we are near the bottom might as well go all the way

>>18292825
>is your online broker a donkey?
Ummm, I want my own stuff, not what Interactive Brokers gives me. They don't give my what I want anyway. For example, I bought an option, then exercised it, but it shows my cost basis of the stock at the option price and not less the price of the option.

>>18292826
That template is really basic and has less info than my text files. I guess I'll create my own excel file.

>>18292847
We all pay for what we've done.

>>18292857
Yes but not yet.

Anyone got experience with Interactive Brokers? Since all options are a joke here, it's looking like only they or questrade are worth a shit, and good luck doing anything but a boomer long on even questrade. Fuck everything.
I did some reading and it turns out cucknadian regulations to fuck shit up for the locals were passed in around 2008 to make sure we couldn't make use of US investment services that have always been infinitely better in every conceivable way, even fees.

>>18292858
Pro tip: Literally every company in China is fake.
Imagine a whole country is Enron.

>>18292598
You can't fuck up as long as you don't go bear and you don't fuck with time-sensitive instruments, such as options

>>18292666
Nice satanic trips.
Remember not to dump all your cash in at once. A good strategy is to invest 1/3 of whatever cash you have available at a time.
I like to always have a little extra cash available or at least on the way into my account. For me, a little cash is a few grand on a total position of about 30 to 50 grand

>>18292874
I'm posting this from a Lenovo laptop.

>>18292888
>The-China-Huslte.mov

>>18292874
Shell company isnt the same as an actual company, making real sales, with a real product, who embellished their sales. Lukin isnt getting shut down over this, which i why i think they can crawl back to $20/share & people will eventually forget/disregard this little episode over time

>>18292826
>>shutting down le ebin MBAs
>You're such a huge faggot dude.
No, the MBAs are. If I don't tell them how shit's going down, then who is?

>>18292862
VIX looks done to me.

>>18292864
make your own, Or Level up at IB, maybe you get more details.

>>18292929
I watched it but 联想集团有限公司 is real.

>>18292871
I have questrade TFSA account and invest on TSX like a true patriot.

>>18292858
If they get away with this event (very likely), the stock is worth the price. Look up the laws firms and who’s behind their IPO writings all big Wall Street guys. They wouldn’t let their investment waste. And LK seemed to be prepared. That lying COO is apparently sacrificing for the most. So he would take all responsibility

Bottom indicator.

>>18292989
kek

>>18292526
China is still fucked which worries me a bit

Please help

This Excel looks so gay.

>>18292483
Try it and let us know

>>18292410
>lost everything on luckin coffee edition
imagine investing in Enron: The Country
>>18292464
hot take we hit bottom 4/20. there will be a moment when the hesitant optimism "Buy the dip!" crashes to complete despair, probably as hospitals are overwhelmed in every major american city. we hit bottom when the hope dies, and that's soon.
>>18292989
unironically useful

>>18292940
VIX above 20 is crazy. We have been "spoiled" by it sitting above that for like a month now.
It's also not good when its falling while stock are on a gradual decline week by week.

>>18292976
Why would you invest on tsx and not use ws?
I also hear questrade is as sketchy as people itt are claiming robinhood to be, despite the fees and everything.

>>18292989
Unironically correct.

>>18293046
I think you're a pussy and it's time to smash the buy button, anon.

>>18292989

>>18292987
That what im thinking. They're not closing their doors over this. Over time this will pass & because they fucked up hard once, they will prob always have bad PR now. So what? Look at Chipotle, as long as you keep making sales, it doesnt matter

>>18293086
>>18292989

>>18293126
This is /biz/'s equivalent of election newfag flood.

>>18293126
>>18293086
>>18293009
Very spooky.

>>18293143
>>18293144
If during the entire crash TQQQ and SPXL led, now SPXS and SQQQ are passing them, does that unironically indicate a bottom?

>>18293144
>Very spooky.
It isn't spooky at all.

>>18293049
Nothing big brained. It would feel wrong to sell low (CAD) and buy high (USD) currencies. Also the tax issue is slightly more complicated and I don't want to think about this.
https://www.moneysense.ca/save/investing/investing-u-s-stocks-in-a-tfsa/

>Peaked at Oct 2008
Normans are onto something

>>18293009
Try using "Format as Table". Besides adding a lot of helpful features for managing tabular data, it has various different visual styles you can apply.

>>18293188
Which search is that for?

>>18293196
Okay, I'll work on making it pretty.
But first, given I'm changing my system I have to enter 3 months worth of trades in. Damn it.

>>18292464
we already bottomed. crab for 2 more weeks then recovery

>>18293196
Does anyone have any suggestions for grocery ordering besides Costco and general Instacart? It doesn't have to include perishables. I am also trying to avoid Amazon, as I do wherever possible, in order to crash the stock price.

>>18292541
reddit out

>>18293222
>shorting a bear market to 1 month after a bull rally of 10 years
Money printing delays the pain, not shortens it

>>18292455
That's not how it works.

>>18293222
im hoping that but im buying shorts anyways
what's your reasoning anon?

>>18293242
Honestly, does it matter? If you keep kicking the can down the road, sooner or later, the road will run out.

>>18293226
>betting against online shopping
>during an event that supports it
>when the west is becoming more shut in by the day
ngmi

>>18293271
The best time to DCA is always now, but especially during a crash. You can just lose all your money if you like, I'm not going to cry.

>>18292464
Quarantine has disrupted everything. Historical data shows that if this impacts the 6 best months of the economy, the effect will ripple into the following worst half, and into the proceeding best again. That means a slow burning recovery.

Insofar as searching for the bottom, the worst is yet to come. There's a lot of deliverance that's gone unmet. We already had dragging repo operations from '08, and those have now been re-upped in new sectors and previous sectors are still drawing on them. There's major businesses that are facing credit downgrades, translating their bonds to junk. Overvaluation of practically the whole stock market. Oil pricing war, which may or may not be resolved. CN is actually probably struggling, but who knows? And then there's people out of work who may well default on payments due or get sucked into a debt spiral over this shit. Sub-prime auto. Some people are suggesting a real estate bubble as well, with perhaps another mortgage crisis emerging.

Then there's more people projected to be unemployed. Once they're displaced there's no guarantee they'll be resorbed. And there's no guarantee that when and if they are, that it will be offered in a seasonable frame. There would be precedence for ramping up and that means delayed hiring phases for those who were cut. There's also issues with the SBA integrating the CARES act loan offerings.

We might see a surge of new trends with the forced remote work, which might drive down fuel utilization across the nation due to commute cuts. That could, ostensibly, impact the oil pricing affair. Social distancing might continue to trend, cutting down profitability for restaurants and bars for some time. Disrupted faith in the system is liable to be an emergent theme, depending on which way things move political and fiscal.

Who knows?

what oil tanker / storage stocks are you goys looking at?

>>18293373
that's a man btw

>>18293370
famales will compete for males with access to resources during scarce times

calls on jobless basic bitches

>>18293327
I am looking for online shopping, BESIDES Costco. Costco is sold out of a lot of the things I want online.

You guys have 4K whats your stock portfolio and why?

Give it to me straight.
I have a handful of USO calls from $6-$7.5 expiring in a week or two. Should I just sell now on Monday at market open?

When do you guys think USO will tank? I have puts for late may, but I am wondering where to put the calls.

>>18293423
Btw, pic related is me and you

>>18293426
short term*

>>18293419
WMT to the bottom to counter inflation, diversify in the trough. M. Burry is suggesting small cap stocks that are heavily impacted by ETF inclusion will likely return the best yields, having a rapid rebound at the bottom individually. Chemicals and specialty foods, industrial wholesale and supply, contractors. Play the rebounds on those and invest in (previously) high yield dividend stocks after profit taking due to their inevitably substantial discount.

>>18293419
I'd probably put 500 into AMD right now and 1.5k if it drops down <41.

-14/10

Can anyone explain why I didn't get charged a fee/commission for exercising an option?
I thought you do get charged.

If not, then there exercising options may be a superior method to limit fees.

>>18293482
WHY

damn bros, idk why i put off playing this for so long its kinda fun.

also, i think i might buy some oil shorts on monday because this week was a meme

>>18293465
>WMT
enjoy losing your money

>>18293370
actual intelligence post. makes me sad. i want to believe v-shape still

>>18292560
at least wait until you start hearing some good news on corona before you make fun of bearish people

>>18293541
>good news on corona
I have an entire folder of good news on the nothing burger. Pic very related.

Reminder to drink your water and do your pushups~

You don’t think this is the bottom, right?

>mfw corona stops producing beer
>mfw corona cant be found in stores
>mfw people want corona
>mfw i have all the corona

>oil speculators

>>18293586
just drink dos equis like the pig you are

>>18293580
it doesn't matter where the bottom is

>>18293586
they have a 70 day supply in the channels
I might buy STZ on Monday, they sounded enthusiastic about the CGC partnership

Some people wonder why I want to keep track of my trades and not use my broker to do it.

Here is an example of my situation:

>ETSY trading at $35
>why is this option so cheap, I must have it!
>buy 4 contracts of ETSY $33 call for $2.3, expiring on Friday
>total cost $920
>if you are brainlet if etsy was trading at $35 and the $33 call option was $2.30, then $2 of that was free money, so the option only cost 30 cents per contract!

>friday comes and etsy was trading at $38
>I exercise the option and the call disappears and I buy 400 shares of etsy at a price of $33 per share. Etsy currently valued at $38/share.
>what is my basis?
>option $920, stock $13,200
>$14,120 cost basis

Current value of etsy (friday closing 38.15):
>$15,260 (over $1000 unrealized gain)

No broker will be able to figure out my cost basis, because they don't treat the option as the same transaction. Hence I have to do the math myself!

>>18293552

DESPITE

>started watching this Joonie theta gang podcast episodes from chronological order.
>neat strategies
>getting closer to up to date
>he is talking about how he is invested in Luckin coffee and Target and a lot of other shit that got fucked
He... is he okay? I'm getting scared for the next episodes is this guy gonna kill himself?

>>18292992
i really want to know what mootwo paid for 4chan

Silly bearcvcks missing an easy short on Monday. Stvpid, stvpid, dvmb bearcvcks. Every past Monday has been green, and yet, they ignore the opportvnity to make easy money. Pathetic, bearcvcks, pathetic. Green open. BVLL! BVLL! BVLL!

>>18293604

but for tax purposes, your cost basis is 13200 because that's what you bought the stock for right
that's the only cost basis that matters...

>>18293498
didnt like it

>>18293580
the spacing has triggered my autism

>>18293183
In my experience the only issue with taxes is you have to remember to file them by april 15 in the us, which is earlier than in canada. Other than that it's pretty straightforward.
I don't know how the value of the currency will work against the relative moves of either stock (and I expect US stocks to recover more and faster).

Everyone knows what VIX is and what it measures. But is there a measure for NON-CORRELATION WITH MARKET?

I'd like to invest 25% or so into stuff that doesn't correlate with the market, or only slightly so.

>>18293604
big brain moves

>>18293629
I'm actually not sure, but regardless if separated for taxes I will still show a $920 loss on the option and $13,200 stock basis. Though combining them makes more sense to me.

>>18293637
treasury bonds?

>>18293637
are you looking for an instrument with zero correlation or are you looking for an instrument with negative correlation

>>18293636
I only have Canadian dollars and the exchange rates add another dimension to this.

>>18293465
>small cap

what sort of market cap are you looking at?

>>18293669
As little as possible. So if you rank all liquid stocks based on statistical day to day correlation with the overall market, I'd like to pick and choose something near the very bottom

it's not too late to change your sedentary ways!

>>18293691
what about cash?

>>18293631
I've tried so hard.. for years now... please just enjoy the movie, it's a good movie

>>18293706
What movie are you even talking about?

>>18293533
>damn bros, idk why i put off playing this for so long its kinda fun.
Enjoy your disappointment. The worst thing about this game is how disappointing the overall product is; MGSV really is lesser than the sum of its parts.

>>18293706
2hu fan lore is soooo interesting!

>>18293373
i was already in STNG and EURN, the dividends have paid them off nearly fully by now...still down a lot on purchase price though.

STNG has a ton of banks invested and every earnings call they talk about making the company a good investment vehicle. But they keep failing to come through on that promise.

>>18293691
lumber

>>18293725
The movies we've watched every saturday for almost 3 years >_<
>>18293733
2hu fan lore is legitimately more complicated and esoteric than ancient mystery schools

>>18293691
go to finviz and search by beta value. 1 beta is a perfect correlation to S&P 500, -1 is inverse, 0 is no correlation

>>18293762
>The movies we've watched every saturday for almost 3 years >_<
I just wanted to know what movie you watched. I didn't see the post. I see it now Cloverfield.
Also I'm still mad the one week where they wouldn't play the accountant.

fuck
is five guys closed
because of the china thing
I want five guys so bad right now at this moment

>>18293840
Just get a mcdonalds quarter pounder. Tastes similar. If not make your own.
>pro tip crush your favorite potato chip into the meat.

>>18293840
its overpriced anyways. get yourself a cookout tray

>>18293774
That did the trick, thank you. Finding lots of very interesting stuff at close to 0.

someone posted a website on here the other day that showed options info for a given share and potential market maker moves to prevent them from getting JUSTed, does anyone remember what its called? pretty poor description im sorry

Okay I did the table thing and put in automatic red/green in the profit column.
Probably put charts on the right side.

Not bad, but needs more work.

>>18293069
I only trade LETFs. Have fun getting in now and throwing money in the trash kek

>>18293706
Oh I have an idea, you can play TwinkleToes

>>18293738
From what i understand never hold tankers for ever only hold them as temp oil plays.

Are REITs degenerate?

>>18293939

>>18294022
profiting off renters like a filthy landlord is degenerate yes, but this is /smg/ we are only interested in making money

>>18294028
bahahahaha!!
well done!

>>18294036
>landlord
>diversify your assets to provide an additional revenue stream
>degenerate
"no"

>>18294022
Be careful. Know what you’re buying. There’re so many garbage REITs out there right now that will not exist in 3-6 months

>>18294041
diversify blah blah blah your time is almost up

>>18293498
>>18293706
>>18294028
Am I able to watch the movies from my phone or a Fire TV stick?
What service were you using to play the movies from?

>>18293568
woo-hoo you figured out how to take snapshots from movie files instead of screenshotting your mac desktop!

Banks - a lot of the largest banks are trading at a heavy discount. How do I know where to invest, I took a look at their structure and kind of debt they hold but essentially they are all riddled with all kinds of crappy debt (some Banks themselves consider BBB “good debt” in their annual reports). How do you make sense of all of this, how do you know whether a JPM, HSBC, BNP, Santander, UBS or ISP will rebound quickly or suffer from Coronasequences?

>>18294041
oh god pls let reits do better this year
>>18294068
I don't know :o
they play from cytube, does the fire have a web browser? I've gotten the movies to play on my iphone b4 but you can't read the chat

>>18294073
how can one anon be so fucking based?

>>18294087
Banks still have room to fall but I’m gonna start slowly buying JPM on the way down. Emphasis on slowly

>>18294058
>I am a landlord
>I can afford property and pay someone to manage it
>in the year 2011+9
>me
>a landlord
>landlords are bad
>landlords are going to get some sort of comeuppance
>the time for landlords is up
>in the United States
>The USA is going to stop enforcing property laws and legally binding contracts
>The renters will win against the owners
>The poor will win against the wealthy

> > > > >
>
>
>
>

>>18294073
Yep! Just for you bud!
Now one of these days maybe I'll stop posting while driving like that other anon asked me to.

>>18294109
I bought 1 (ONE) share of Godman Sucks!
Did I do good? Unfortunately we haven't heard much from Mr. Dimon, and a lot of the bank's reputation is tied up with him. Could get a real good price if he steps down for health reasons!

>>18294151
yes

>>18294196
you're going to be disappointed
But that's a good life lesson

>>18294151
i do appreciate it, now the images are actually saveable

>>18294164
I’m just glad he got his heart shit taken care of before coronachan started butchering americans. I don’t know much about GS. Why are they getting boned so hard? They hold shale debt or something?

>>18294028
lol

>>18294022
not all of them

>>18294208
pity because i dont live in the jewsa

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/us/politics/cia-coronavirus-china.html

Say it with me:
BVLL RUN

Why the fuck are bonds so much more complicated than stocks?

>>18294279
What the fuck is going on this year? Are we seriously going to start a fucking cold war on top of all this

>>18294279
>https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/us/politics/cia-coronavirus-china.html
>NY Times
>Not archiving
>Expecting me to actually give that filthy organization a click

You have to go back

>>18294290
bro china started this thing years ago
it wasn't us

>>18294279

anyone else buying airline calls on Monday?

also i am very long on gold ETFs. anyone think gold will gap up this week?

>>18294282
What is complicated about bonds?

>>18292410
k

>>18294313
The only currency that matters is USD and if it actually becomes worthless humanity as we know it will cease to exist. I'm balls deep in SPY puts btw.

I found the tax answer.

If you buy a call and exercise it, you do not list the price of the call as a separate loss. You add the price of the call to your basis in the stock!

>>18294279
Lol the comments - order by reader top picks for some quality reading: “Its Trumps fault, China has warned us in December”

>>18294327
>The only currency that matters is USD
USD has been petrodollar since the 80s. If that dies in an oil war the Euro or CNY might be the new world currency.
>>18294313
Gold is currently oversupplied right now.

>>18294279
We all knew there are millions of dead chinks.

mining and steel production are the safest place for stocks after the dust settles. we're in for a massive infrastructure boom

>>18294290
>cold
Decapitation first strike, falsifying data leading to hundreds of thousands of American deaths as casus belli

>>18294293
Archive it yourself you fucking sperg.

>>18294323
>YTM
>YTW
>Callable/Call protection
>bid/ask as %
>min qty
>market price calculation
>likely hood of bankruptcy
>premium/discount
>Treasury vs municipal vs corporate etc
Sure, the basics is that a bond is worth $1000 and it pays a coupon %. But then there's like a million calculations and people sell these bonds based on a percentage of the bond plus fees.Like, why would I buy a bond worth $1000 for $1250? Or why would someone sell a bond for only $800?

>>18294342
SPY puts is an uphill battle against what will be non-stop bailouts by the fed. plus your options still lose value if the market crabs

>>18294342
The only currency that matters is USD and if it actually becomes worthless humanity as we know it will cease to exist. I'm balls deep in SPY puts btw.

>>18293222
based on what quarterly earnings? this entire quarter is fucked so recovery cant begin until the quarantine is lifted

>>18294394
do bonds have big spreads?

>>18294361
No
Infrastructure bills are just congressional porkbarrels. Maybe you’re going to see an extra lane added to an interstate highway, and some potholes filled here and there.

>>18294342
They might, but they won’t.

>>18294397
Absolutely brainlet tier analysis. I bet you didn’t even realize the March end rally was largely due to rebalancing. So many tards thought they’d short the spy down 30% and I have no pity for them. If you shorted in anticipation of corona fallout after Italy, good for you. If you bought puts that had higher IV than your IQ, and held them for longer than a day, you get no sympathy for losing money.

Not everything is Jerome.

>>18294404
They are priced as a percentage of the bond and must be bought/sold in lots of minimum quantity. Fees are priced into the bid/ask. Because bonds are less liquid, there might not even be bids. The spread can be multiple percentage points. It seems like craziness to me.

>>18294393
I'm not a sperg and I SAID YOU HAVE TO GO BACK FUCKING NIGGER KIKE SHILL JIDF PLS GO

>>18292589
hard to gauge intent on this was it done by the chinese to distract from hong kong protests and trade war or was by the US to further destabilize a shitty regime at a tolerable loss.

>>18294415
This post seriously demonstrates your low IQ, kek.

>>18294401
You think investors have high expectations for this quarters earnings? Lmao. That’s not the catalyst that controls the market right now. And doesn’t have much to do with the recovery. And the market will bottom before the recovery even begins. It’s just how it goes.

>>18294419
Youre trying way to hard

>>18294426
Can’t even tell what you’re criticizing if you just say “lmao ur dumb”

Not helpful to anyone

>>18294419
dude you can't just say the N word on 4chan... not cool bro

>>18294452
I hope this is bait, bro. I'm responding to bait, right?

what do I have to do for US taxes as a Canadian anyway? in the very optimistic scenario where I actually make more than I lose

>>18294421
Ok now this is garbage. If it was done by the Chinese intentionally it was not for the reasons you stated, it would be to do what is currently happening, which is weaken the U.S, put us on the ropes, and then use the opportunity to step in and save the world to earn more international influence, which weakens us further.

The question about the U.S doing it to harm China isn't even worth considering.

>>18294455
Two posts and no argument, just talking shit?

>>18294453
ur right bro mb mb lol good catch i'm not actually racist u kno ha ha

>>18294485
>Two posts and no argument, just talking shit?

>>18294435
i dont, but saying it will be an instant recovery this month is moronic.

>>18294489
You are so Chinese it hurts

>>18294361
If X goes lower I might get some

I've been looking at bonds all day, and I've noticed that all the worst bonds are oil companies, hospitality, and auto makers. If their bonds are collapsing, doesn't that mean their stocks are about to be fucked to oblivion?

>>18294510
Pretty much.
Cheap = more risk

>>18294504
What gave it away?

>>18294394
>Like, why would I buy a bond worth $1000 for $1250?
I'd like to see it. The coupon % and duration must be long enough to make it worthwhile. It could also be because the issuer will be going out of business or merged later which might offer the possibility of cashing out earlier than the bond or getting your bond converted into stocks.
> Or why would someone sell a bond for only $800?
Bankruptcy risk or need for immediate liquidity are the two that come to mind.
The YTM is probably automatically calculated and it already takes care of all of most of those parameters for you except the really ephemeral one, bankruptcy risk.
Of what you listed, I'd go with corporate bonds. Some of the YTMs look pretty nice, even considering bankruptcy risk. I see a few for Royal Caribbean and Ford that have YTMs almost near 20%. That is literally better than most dividend stocks and they are forced to pay it. And in case of bankruptcy, bondholders are near the top of the liquidation dispersion.

>>18294510
Look at their stocks and see if they’ve already collapse. I don’t watch corporate debt but I doubt bonds tanked and the stocks didn’t.

>>18294501
Anyone saying that is shitposting, which is fun and harmless.

>>18294490
Kekked
L8r t8r

>>18294520
Much like the CIA nigger who's posts glow, yours have the putrid bugman stench.

>>18294510
There is some variation on it but generally as long as you hold a bond you will get a guaranteed return. See >>18294530
I guess I also forgot to mention that the value also doesn't change. Bad because you can't get the kind of growth that is possible from stocks but good in that unlike stocks, if more bonds are issued yours does not decrease in value.
A lot of these biotech stocks become absolutely worthless over time because of diluting shares but their bonds do not.

>>18294476
/watch?v=bpQFCcSI0pU
its also possible it was unintentional a shitty chinese chernobly.if they were doing it for influence they are fucking it up with the testing kits and blatant fudging of their infection statistics

>>18294536
Of course the stock is hard hit, but if they go bankrupt, the stock will go to zero and any leftovers will go to bond holders. Which means if people are scared the bonds wont even payout, then that would imply the risk of bankruptcy is high and stock price will lower or even zero.

>>18294553
Entirely possible, honestly that video by alpha investments posted here the other day is the deepest dive I’ve taken into corporate debt.

He dropped some knowledge on me including: when GM got bailed out, it’s stock went to zero and stockholders got nothing. Bond holders got issued preferred stock in the new GM after restructuring. I bet those who bought it on the cusp of bankruptcy made out like bandits. It really makes me want to look into some opportunities like that. The cruise liners seem like they could be worth a gamble, but I don’t think the world will be the same after COVID19, so I’m not sure how I would even approach valuing cruise ships that will most likely need all sorts of retrofitting.

Any of those junk bonds catch your eye?

>>18294510
how do you determine the quality of a bond? credit rating, yield, etc?

>>18292505
>Warm, sunny weather
>Reopen because people want to go out again
>"Finally its over!"
>Wave 2 hits in full force
Predictable

>>18294591
Hey friend I'm in the same boat, don't know shit about buying corporate debt but I like the idea of it if for nothing else diversifying my holdings. Carnival issued bonds on April 1st that had a 14% interest. Pretty insane I think.

>>18294539
Shucks, you got me, except I am both glow and chink, for I am the radioactive bugman.

>>18294604
Preston Pysh did a course on value investing, during which he goes into bonds and goes pretty deep even insofar as how to calculate the yield to maturity. Highly recommended.

holy shit that picture is disgusting

>>18294591
>Rudy
Exactly why I started seriously looking into bonds. I looked at bonds briefly before, like coupon rate and the order of how company debt is settled. Today I did a much deeper dive. Carnival was one of the bonds I was looking at, but there was also Norwegian and GM junk bonds. Imagine if you buy GM puts and it goes down to zero again. Whats eye opening though is the price of bonds also gives insight on the price of the stock. Same with options. When you learn about these new financial instruments like bonds and options, it really starts opening your eyes on why stocks move in certain ways. Its an endless rabbit hole. I'm thinking of just buying a bond fund/etf instead of buying my own.


>>18294604
I'm wondering the same thing!

>>18294604
>>18294662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWzgk-8QHKk&list=PLECECA66C0CE68B1E&index=7

thank me later

>>18294672
I gotta sleep

Someone post if they found these helpful. Honestly getting curious about corporate debt but more curious about assessing debt and assessing risk of obligations that are fast approaching. And I see the playlist has a balance sheet episode...

>>18294682
Just save it, it's a great course. Trust me it won't hurt and will in some way be worth your time.

>>18294635
And I heard they were fully subscribed, all the debt was bought. Makes me think they’re not in as much trouble as I would want them to be before I’d gamble on them.

>>18294662
I’m not sure if you can actually redeem a put if it actually goes to zero. How can you sell 100 shares of a stock you can’t buy because it’s been delisted and scrapped? Shorting to zero sounds fun but there’s always the risk of a squeeze and your broker forcing you to close your position during the squeeze.

>>18294672
>>18294682
Im watching, so far very helpful.

Is there a bot that tells you when a share has been over bought/over sold?

>>18292711
Everything Chinese is a scam fucked company. This includes their "bluechips" like Alibaba and Tencent.

>>18294703
Every option is backed by real stock. If it goes to zero, then the option writer just has to pay the strike in cash. Also Im not on margin s I cant get liquidated.

>>18294717
Smart man. China is all fake.

>>18294727
I don’t think you can short without margin, so that part only applies to shorting. I might have to look into what happens with a put if the company implodes and the stock goes to 0.

>>18294696
Will do!
Where were you a month ago when I was asking for the best finance vids on YouTube for my longass drive... now I’ve got too much to catch up on but I’ll try to fit this in.

>>18294087
>HSBC
literally a ticking time bomb

Oh god was there another press briefing tonight? And trump used it to talk shit on the officer who tried to save the sailors on that navy ship?

Tomorrow’s corona meeting will be “fun”. But I guess he has to do it because of chain of command bullshit and the guy knew he’d be fired.

>>18294770
Brokers generally have 2 options tiers:
Buying calls/puts and selling covered calls
and writing naked calls and puts
You do not need margin to purchase calls/puts because the risk is up front.

i hate to break it to you bears and put holders but i don't think coronavirus is going to continue to pull the market down.

there is no where for it to go down past those lows last month. . .

what should i long other than resorts and airlines??

>>18294833
Korea's CV pressers are 5 minutes. I don't have the time to sit through 1-2 hour long whatever those things he holds are if its a non trading day.
You can use any company mentioned by Trump or anyone else at the WH to scalp that stock. The bump doesn't last long (I've seen it start to fade after 5 minutes)

>>18294857
>but i don't think coronavirus is going to continue to pull the market down.
No, that would be the recession that was starting back in October/November.
>what should i long other than resorts and airlines??
Utilities, food distributors, insurance, etc. Staple industries that have relatively inelastic demand.
I feel like there is a real possibility that you can even long bear real estate ETFs

Lmao retards still thinking that chink flu will magically disappear in two months. 10 million deaths is a fuckin conservative estimate unless we all live inside a bunker until we find a cure.

>>18294857
>Still thinking the Virus is the reason for the whole economic disaster
Hopefully you use leverage long calls so that you get liquidiated asap and hopefully you buy airlines which are on the edge to bankruptcy (inbefore bail outs)

>>18294905
The magical cure will be around the corner and everyone has to digital confirm that he either was vacchined already or recovered - bill gates made enough hints already.

(((They))) have found a viable way to totally control society.

>>18294857
>>18294905
>ask why neighbours are still throwing parties
>bro fox news told me it's just the flu
retards keep ignoring the quarantine guidelines, burgers are doomed to fail

>>18294857
>Thinking corona is the cause for this recession
Its just an excuse

>>18294912
what is the other reason??

i'm already super long gold, why can't equities and housing prices continue to rise as things hyper inflate??

>>18294936
jesus.
you guys are missing the bottom.

>>18294857
>i don't think coronavirus is going to continue to pull the market down.
this is just the beginning of the epidemic. Chicago, LA, Phoenix, San Francisco, Portland, Boston, New Orleans, and Philadelphia are all going to go through what NY is going through. when all the hospitals are overwhelmed everywhere, the market isnt going to go UP

is buying gold etfs unironically the best move right now for brainlet long term holding?

>>18294945

>>18293697
contemplate the fragrance

>>18294958
Again there is no shortage of gold and no one is buying. Retail gold sales (lolbertarians) is a pittance.

>>18294938
>as things hyper inflate
>as the crisis crushes demand, the depression scares people into saving, and the price war over oil drives prices lower
Wew lad you got quite an imagination!
I wouldn’t look to USD to be the first currency to experience noticeable inflation.

>>18294945
It won’t be New York everywhere. It’ll be bad but nowhere else has the population density and public transportation culture.

Shit people in LA barely even leave their cars except for home and work. Except the people who go to gyms and clubs and shit, and gyms have been shutdown 2+ weeks already.

I hope we get a retest but we might not. we could just crab around.

>>18294958
Not really. I suggest owning some, but inflation will have to outpace deflation for it to start being felt, and gold demand may be dry up for a while.

>>18294979
Roses, lavender, and a hint of sõy sauce

>invest in Chinese company
>they get delisted for fraud
wew lad

>>18294279
>American intelligence agencies have concluded that the Chinese government itself does not know the extent of the virus
>Testing in the United States lags behind other countries.
what a load of crap lmao

>>18294810
Care to explain why? Not sure how to valuate banks and tell which ones have growth prospects

>>18294980
>>18294996
im talking about gold etfs like GLD i dont care if it doesnt go up that much i just dont want it to completely tank if this is a real recession

>>18294845
That’s why I specified “short”. Maybe I need to say short-sell for you to understand I’m not talking about options?
The jargon of finance is full of technicalities.

>>18294876
They’re kind of fun to shitpost about when they’re Happening, but there’s never anything important. It’s just fun sometimes to watch him throw a tantrum or contradict himself and his team or bodyslam anyone who isn’t OAN, Fox, and WSJ.
You actually watch the Korean pressers?

>>18295010
Both can very easily be true at the same time moron.

>>18294996
>It won’t be New York everywhere. It’ll be bad but nowhere else has the population density and public transportation culture.
>Shit people in LA barely even leave their cars except for home and work. Except the people who go to gyms and clubs and shit, and gyms have been shutdown 2+ weeks already.
>I hope we get a retest but we might not. we could just crab around.
i honestly pray we just crab around, considering the few hundred i make in puts will in no way make up for the economic catastrophe.
but i think its going to bad as bad as NY in a lot of other places. maybe some proactive cities on the West coast will do fine, but the south (unhealthy, unprepared) is going to be devastated, including the rural areas

>>18295025
Yeah I know what you were talking about, I own GLDM because the expense ratio is sliiiightly better. BAR might be better than that.

They should maintain value well if you’re just worried about inflation of your cash. But like the other anon said, gold isn’t in high demand. The dollar is in VERY high global demand. I’m not sure when that could reverse. I’m happier holding MUCH more USD than gold, but I’ve allotted 5-10% of my portfolio to gold and gold miners.

>>18295042
The virus needs humans to be in close contact with eachother to spread though. How much of the rural south is getting close together and partying like Nashville and New Orleans?

Oh god I forgot about Nashville. Yeah it could be real bad for some of these places. And while I don’t have statistics, my personal experience leads me to believe there’s going to be a lot of complications from obesity, diabetes, and fatty liver.

>>18295042
And if we do crab on the S&P, Dow, NASDAQ, I still expect bankruptcies in the small caps, so I’m short Russell 2000. Could be stupid, Mnuchin and trump just came out and voiced their commitment to small businesses again. We will see.

>>18295031
>You actually watch the Korean pressers?
About once a week. South Korea has, so far, handled this the best of any country on the planet so far. I think that this whole thing has scared the entire American healthcare system shitless and I think it will look to South Korea (or Singapore) as a model. They had to cut their teeth with MERS/SARS. And it's literally just 5 minutes. That is about how long it takes me to drink a cup of coffee or tea.

>>18295036
except we are already testing more than any country on earth by FAR and if china has "vastly understated " the deaths then they likely know the rough extent of it and that it's worse than they want to let on

>>18295063
I didn’t even know anyone besides trump was doing that, and they’re accessible to foreigners with subs. Cool

>>18293160
no anon, the bottom means that TVIX will return to the pre-crash levels.

>>18295054
>The virus needs humans to be in close contact with eachother to spread though
This virus is more contagious than the regular flu. And the regular flu sweeps through rural towns too.
People are still gonna have to go shopping and that sort of thing. A lot percentage of the population will still be working.
These southern rural areas are doing the worst job of quarantining too. and they have the worst healthcare systems in the nation. it wont take much for them to be overwhelmed. even a slow trickle of cases might push them over the edge.
im pessimistic for them.

Anybody got a squeezemetrics account? Id be curious about the NASDAQ DIX & GEX, specifically Biotech sector and how it correlates to the free S&P 500 graph on their site...

>>18293232
why are you going long in this market? quarantine hasn't ended, china is faking a recovery, and trump is out of breath during the press conferences. safe numbers are 300K dead in murica due to coronavirus, with the press coverage it's been getting in msm have you the slightest fucking idea how much panic it will cause? and how many more months of quarantine in certain areas? I'm going out on a limb and guessing that the homeless population in california will get fucked into dirt next autumn.

>>18295096
>I'm going out on a limb and guessing that the homeless population in california will get fucked into dirt next autumn.
Yeah im thinking chink-AIDS is pretty based now

Why do people think this thing is just going to go away? Okay so we hit our peaks, let's pick a city, it hits peak, cases start to go down. Then what? Everyone just forgets about it and goes out like normal with no precaution or lingering fears of the virus? I don't see it playing out that way.

>>18295085
Can the DIX even be used in a bear market? It measures short selling and a BIG assumption of the entire model is that most short selling is by MMs in order to create a market and not speculative. What happens when short selling isn't bullish (like in a bear market)?

>>18295080
Some of the highest per capita rates are already from rural areas. The american healthcare system is built for efficiency so these small hospitals have exactly the same problems as the big ones but with less capacity for dealing with equipment shortages or sick doctors.

>>18295096
>I'm going out on a limb and guessing that the homeless population in california will get fucked into dirt next autumn

Bullish af

>>18295108
Every country needs to do a random sample testing with a good sample size to see if the mass is already positive / immune / recovered, then you know if the virus is a nothingburger or not. Right now we are throwing around with flawed statistics and numbers just for the sake of fear. Probably they already know the answer...

>>18295130
rip
how do i short the south?

>>18295126
That’s why I want to take a look at the correlation with Biotech, > 500m cap stocks on NASDAQ have mostly seen bullish weeks (apart from initial sell off which I suspect is endogenous and not only corona related) with lower Volatility - I’d be curious comparing this to the overall NASDAQ to see how DIX is behaving since you are right, theres no data from the last bear market in 2008. Other ideas on sectors that were bullish in a bear market recently?

>>18294415
not to mention companies will start releasing their quarterlies pretty soon showing pretty significant losses. biz is full of retards really.

I got banned for using a signature during the april fools bullshit. So I'm going to use this opportunity to say I post from multiple places, and... ehhem

FUCK JANNIES
FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK FOOLS
AND FUCK MODS

Happy Holy Week everbody. The market will be closed on friday in observance of killing a kike.

>>18295108
>Why do people think this thing is just going to go away? Okay so we hit our peaks, let's pick a city, it hits peak, cases start to go down. Then what? Everyone just forgets about it and goes out like normal
Yes? Do you people not remember swine flu?

>The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that swine flu infected nearly 61 million people in the United States and caused 12,469 deaths
>in 2009 to 2010—the first flu pandemic in more than 40 years. It was caused by a then-new flu virus known as H1N1, an influenza virus that's a combination of swine, avian (bird), and human genes that mixed together in pigs and spread to humans
>H1N1 is now considered a normal type of seasonal flu and is included in the flu vaccine.

>>18295011
HSBC is shady as it gets, just like Deutsche Bank, it's so bad that they don't hide their money laundering scheme anymore and just book it. they'd be the first to go if it came to that point.

>>18295175
>Yes? Do you people not remember swine flu?
there wasn't a massive societal shutdown for swine flu. also, coronavirus is going to kill more 100x as many as swine flu. we're up to 3,000 dead in NY alone and its just starting in the US

For the rest of us, Passover seder will be observed wednesday at sunset.... do what ever you want, it's fucking holy week.

>>18295165
No one expects good results this quarter, and investors are looking past this quarter to future quarters. Sure there will be downside surprises but everyone has lowered guidance and may have to lower again before earnings.

Any cheap stocks a bum like me could use to buy a 100 of, to sell covered calls?

>>18295192
I believe the investors will wait till the quarterly reports show stabilization or small profit from the first post corona release. This will take some times. Either that, or a huge positive news, like a working vaccine or some miracle cure etc. Global economy nearly ground to a halt for a month, you have to be really stupid to not understand the impact of that on the economy.

>>18295175
Not comparable to swine flu imo as far as how widespread it is, the media hype, government response, public panic, etc. Different bag of oranges.

>>18295192
Investors don't know where to go with cash... I wish I had money making opportunities, but we're in preserve mode... just short shit like movie pass... and maybe e-harmony or that online dating shit gets a bump because people are horny and want to hook up... that e-date bull shit, match.com.... expect big numbers from that. people are breaking quarantine, and you'll see a super surprise.

>>18292526
Yes, the CIA was saying they were full of shit.

Which is surprising, as a lot of (but not all) media in the US is taking China's numbers at face value.

300 dollariinos, double or nothing by friday. Any ideas frens?

Max leverage i can get is x15 but only for few indexes, oil and some misc.

>>18295225
i mean i saw these videos on twitter of people in wuhan being welded into their buildings... quarantines forced for any fever, even if it was just flu, you go to makeshift hospital camp.... you get infected with everything there... they didn't tally numbers, too fucking busy.

>>18295232
disney puts
they've ruined me, they can ruin you too
that company is due to fall much harder

>>18295186
>there wasn't a massive societal shutdown for swine flu
Correct. Still doesnt change anything I said though.
>coronavirus is going to kill more 100x as many as swine flu
Yeah totally bro. The CDC says an estimated 575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated.
So youre saying COVID is going to kill 57.5 million people? Get a grip retard.

>>18292782
do you have more pictures from that chick?

>>18295126
It worked well enough signalling a bottom had been set on the 2018 drop. Decently well around the double bottom lows of 2015. Very well on 2011 bottom shortly after the data started to be collected. It doesn't seem to be great when the readings aren't extreme, thankfully readings are indeed in extreme territory right now. S&P did rallies hard fairly quickly after DIX shows readers in excess of ~46%. Current is 50%, right at the top of the recorded range.

This is additional to my own simpler TA assessment indicates a high likelihood of a short squeeze powered sharp rebound for a few days or a week or two incoming. Maybe a reversal maybe not but it'll be a significant move.

>>18295242
>Correct. Still doesnt change anything I said though.
not sure if bait. the complete shutdown is going to going to have lasting effects on the economy and society. we cant instantaneously bounce back. its like he had an economy with some faint faultlines, and we attacked with a sledge hammer.
>So youre saying COVID is going to kill 57.5 million people? Get a grip retard.
it'll definitely be in the 10s of millions. we're looking at a disease that has between 1 and 5% mortality rate (leaning towards 5% in less developed areas). its going to wreck every major urban center globally, and itll likely tear through the rest of the world too

Oil desu

>>18295293
anywhere sporting >2% mortality rate 100% has the wrong denominator. South Korea is the only reliable statistic for the time being. Nobody else is testing anywhere near enough.

>>18295310
South Korea has one of the best healthcare systems in the world. its mortality rate will be lower than almost everywhere else globally.
and assuming that somehow this disease has only a 1% mortality rate globally, and assuming it only becomes a pandemic in urban areas, itll still kill 10s of millions

>>18295293
>not sure if bait. the complete shutdown is going to going to have lasting effects on the economy and society. we cant instantaneously bounce back. its like he had an economy with some faint faultlines, and we attacked with a sledge hammer.
despite these big scary unemployment numbers people keep parading around. the fact of the matter is most people are still employed, they just have zero hours. China is already saying fuck it and moving on and people in the US are going to do the same eventually as well. No one is going to sink the economy to prevent a bunch of retarded boomer deaths.
>it'll definitely be in the 10s of millions. we're looking at a disease that has between 1 and 5% mortality rate (leaning towards 5% in less developed areas). its going to wreck every major urban center globally, and itll likely tear through the rest of the world too
You are completely talking out of your ass.
The way your speaking about this also leads me to believe you were 100% one of those panicked retards at Walmart sporting a gas mask wrestling other fat retards over toilet paper and the last frozen pizza.
Seriously. Get a grip LOL

>>18295242
>So youre saying COVID is going to kill 57.5 million people?
Without the lockdowns in place? YES, YOU FUCKING RETARD.

>>18295340
Another retard has arrived.

>>18295310
>every country handles the situation the same
yeah Italy's dead bodies are fake news duh

>>18295344
You don't know SHIT about this virus. If the hospitals get ovverun the mortality rate goes through the fucking roof. Please tell me what you're long on so I can laugh at you.

>>18295335
>You are completely talking out of your ass.
>The way your speaking about this also leads me to believe you were 100% one of those panicked retards at Walmart sporting a gas mask wrestling other fat retards over toilet paper and the last frozen pizza.
>Seriously. Get a grip LOL
you type like you woke up early to go to cracker barrel. did you discover /biz/ this week after you heard in the news the stocks sure are crazy?

>>18295335
Kill yourself. This post makes me wish I had the money to double down on puts. Jesus Christ anon, open your fucking eyes.

>>18295358
>>18295361
>>18295371

>>18295358
let the retard go long and cry in 2 months about losing his savings and being rooned, and ask if suicide is the only option. People have a tendency to be extremely arrogant before their investments and extremely humble after they get crushed. Most people don't understand that the only thing the FED is creating right now with their injections is another market bubble, that will kill the trust the investors have in some company and turn murican economy into JAPAN 2.0 eternal crab. And you guys are going to get 4 more years of winning.

>>18295379
based on how you type, youre 60 years old and diabetic. please take this seriously. if not for yourself, then for your children

>>18295379
That's what I look like when I go shopping? You wanna know why? Because I don't want permanent lung damage.

Kill yourself.

>>18295383
>>18295386
>OH GOD PLEASE, WHERES THE TOILET PAPER!?!?!
>I NEED IT RIGHT NOW!
>GIT OUTTA MUH WAY, DONT YOU KNOW THIS CHINESE VIRUS IS GUNNA KILL 60 MILLION!!!!!!

Tick tock Boomers. People are going to stop giving a shit. There is too much money on the line to throw it away for you old fucks.

>>18295335
listen here trailer dweller chan. you shouldn't be talking about anything other than WWE, fingering your cousin, and how the FSU is doing. You are completely out of your depth in discussing geopolitcs and the potential fallout from bad decisions made now. If they end the lockdown too early, and the virus spreads and kills a million people in the states trump will legitimately be impeached, or removed from office one way or another I hope you understand that trailer chan?

Someone make a new thread not it faggots kys kike

>>18295407
out of curiosity: why don't you think the coronavirus is dangerous? do you disagree with the mortality rate? or do you think it won't spread? or is there some other factor?

>>18295407
You are not imune to this, retard. Healthy young people are getting killed left and right by corona-chan. They are the least liekly to die, but if EVERYONE is infected a sub 1% mortality rate is still massive.

Anyone who thinks China isn't going to take a serious hit after this is deluded. Not only did they start it, but now they're sending defective PPE and test kits to MULTIPLE COUNTRIES.

>>18295389
>>18295410
>>18295423
>>18295432
>TIMMY! HURRY AND GO GRAB ALL THE SUNNY D YOU CAN CARRY!!!!!!!!
>IM GOING IN FOR THE RED BARRON PIZZAS AND PALL MALLS!!!!
>60 MILLION WILL BE DEAD ANY SECOND NOW, ITS TIME TO HUNKER DOWN!!!!!!!!

>>18295439
I'm genuinely curious. I'm assuming this is bait, but if not, why do you think this way?

>>18295423
He is in deep denial.

>>18295407
I'm not a boomer you obese zoomer faggot. And keep in mind when your retarded generation finally mutates the virus and starts drowning in pink foam on dry land. Just remember how ignorant and arrogant you were, and that you get what you deserve. We can just let natural selection play out, the only problem is some decent people might die as a result.

>>18295443
>>18295443
>>18295443
fag thread

>>18295439
>he doesn't wear ppe at the supermarket
Enjoy your testicular damage and lung fibrosis.

>>18295439
>is bullish on the markets
>doesn't understand the panicking people are actually the only thing generating money right now in retail
>mocks a pandemic and by default is destined to get the virus
you will be a sacrifice to the eternal bear op, thanks for your help, and go out to lick some sidewalks and post it on tick-tock to show your other high iq zoomer friends how unafraid of corona you are in minecraft

>>18295497
Good post

>>18295497
>>18295458
>>18295450
>I DONT CARE MOM, GRAB THE TENDIES AND GET IN THE BUNKER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

>>18295442
>Spanish flue deaths in the US: 675,000
>SARS: 8 U.S. cases, zero deaths
>Swine flu: 12,469 deaths in the US
But yeah COVID is totally going to kill millions of Americans any day now.

>>18295525
nigger you cant even spell flu correctly, are you retarded? why are you talking about stuff that's so high above your mental capacity the only way you can attack it is by mocking it?

>>18295525
You have the lowest IQ on 4chan. DYOR. It will surpass the pig sniffels within a week.

>>18295542
>>18295547
I DONT CARE WHAT IT TAKES OR WHO I HAVE TO TAKE OUT.... IM GETTING MY MT DEW AND POP TARTS!!!!!!!!!!

>>18295562
Why are you like this

>>18295570
sold the previous dip, and bought the recent top, now he doesn't care about corona because his pathetic life lost any meaning to him.

>>18295570
>>18295582
>YOUR DAMN RIGHT I GOT MY MAC N' CHEESE!!!!!!!!!!
>60 MILLION DEAD ANY SECOND NOW

>>18292710

FD is WSB lingo.

>>18295450

Keep watching CNN faggot and tell me how the end is nigh and hang out inside

I've already tested positive and recovered cuck boy. Not pleasant by any means, I can see how boomers die and how sedentary cuckholds don't make it. Felt like a wicked flu with a crushing feeling in the lungs.

Don't understand the hype afterwards

>>18295605
anon you are dead unironically, when you get reinfected by that shit it will fucking crush you. and you're a masshole which only makes it more likely that you get reinfected, good night sweet prince.

>>18292992
This fucker went to Uni of Arkansas. No way that his English is that shit.

>>18295260
Great assessment. GEX is also at record negative value, so maybe a dip in the coming week followed by a hefty rally in 2-4 weeks? I wonder if I should buy some SPY calls and if yes at what level, they are cheap (vs puts in same absolute amount) and worst case you lose a couple bucks. That high IV though...

>>18293875
someone has a good taste