/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18252293
Everything is a premium right now above spot. It isn't "expensive " but it's higher than it should be. Go to JM Bullion and check In Stock silver autistically multiple times a day.

>>18252293
No, don't buy copper bullion it's a scam. If you really want copper just get a bag of wheat pennies and call it a day. Focus on gold and silver. Also, don't buy from ebay.

I have a silver maple leaf in an NGC case. How much value does it lose if opened? I want to touch it

>>18252723
You will literally go broke if you open it up. Your children's children will still be paying the debt you owe for fondling that coin anon. Stay safe. Be aware,

>>18252610
also monument metals and goldeneaglecoins have had some nice deals lately. but you do have to act fast.

>>18252293
In 1964 a computer was worth 163 minimun wages
In 2020 a computer is worth half.. of one minimum wage

>>18253039
Now do the house.

>>18252293
based my fellow anon, you got this shit. Copper has no value but silver will increase in value till 1k$ this summer. Just move your ass, now the ratio of this bet is -10%/+120%

>>18252761
no, it isn't, silver is a great investment right now, don't spread bullshit please.

Adding to OP's question, where to buy silver IN FUCKING EUROPE?
For real, it's either insanely overpriced (like 25-30€ /oz) or they're no longer accepting new orders
Help please

>>18252610
What’s the deal with silver shot? Is it a pain in the ass to sell? If you bought 500oz silver shot from JM and kept the package sealed with a copy of your receipt would you be able to unload it later without issue ?

>>18253205
just buy physical, it's not overpriced. It depends where you buy but in Germany you can find some good offers from.gold buyers, just buy in bulk and just ingots

>>18253239
I meant physical... I ordered 30oz a couple of weeks ago from Geiger Edelmetalle but now they're sold out as well

>>18253039
>depreciating assets are depreciating
Computer is not an investment, tard.

>>18252293
I see all you guys trying to buy precious metals and here in Brazil you can buy straight from the source with a 20% discount right now. Also big jewelry factories are laying off personnel due to the crisis so they are selling gold to pay their employees.

>>18253307
https://www.anlagegold24.de/1-oz-Silber-1-Dollar-Nugget-Kaenguru-2020.html?p=502

>>18253375
link por favor mermão

>>18252610
You fucking NEET faggots should kill yourselves. Instead of doing that and then getting your silver 3 months from now if ever... you should literally be parked in front of a coin shop waiting for boomers to come in and sell their silver then buy once they sell, if the coin shop doesn’t have any available to buy. My coin dealer said there are definitely people selling.

>>18253063

>>18252723
Silver doesn't stop being silver if you touch it. Knock yourself out man

>>18253205
It honestly doesn’t even fucking matter if your in Europe. You don’t have guns and Muslims are about to curb stomp all of you. You might as well just kill yourself now. At least in America we have a chance

>>18253403
good luck finding coin shops when you're quarantined in the middle of rural underdeveloped Europe and can't even leave your town.

>>18253375
that's exactly why prices will surge in the near future lol. Keep buying for a profit so you can shit on your home county lol

>>18253234
Nobody is going to give a shit if it’s untouched or not or if it’s eagles or rounds. You fucking morons think your going to get more for numismatic value from some boomer who collects

>>18253444
Europe isn't Paris and London, m8. I've literally only seen Muslims when I go to Brussels for work. Never in my ancestral homeland. Plus, I haven't seen a black person until I was 18. Is that possible in the US?

Selling a tube of silver eagles. $420 and you pay for shipping. Drop an email and I’ll hit you up

>>18253143
No way does silver reach $1k by summer

>>18253447
you don't even understand what you're saying. USA and Europe have the vast majority of rarity coins holders out there. Those people can keep buying precious coins on the used market for a profit but unfortunately you can't because shipping and import taxes will kill you margins, you poor loser :(

>>18253390
Sorry bro, I can't compromise people I know, but just look at Google and search for companies that sell wholesale jewelry. Most are selling right now.

>>18253486
nobody can call the exact timing, but it'll surge. Just do your homework, spoonfeedin is not my job.

>>18252293
I just bought 5 x 100g bars for £68 each
And 10 x silver kruggerands for £22 each

>>18253450
Yes indeed. And that's why gold takes some time to go up.

Looking for Silver Tendies. Have sauce.

>>18253486
Silver doesn’t have to hit 1,000$. It can hit 100$ followed by a collapse of all asset prices then your 300 ounces of silver is 30k but then monthly rent is 40$ a month and a loaf of bread it 10 cents. Congratulation you’ve made it

big holders are dumping on retail right now, think about all the fat retards buying solely because of the muh financial meltdown story

>>18253679
Kys

>>18253679
[citation needed]

Have $3500. Tell me what to buy with it.

>>18253679
just picked up 20$ FV of mercs for 15x bc of this post

>>18253444
Apparently not aware that arrows, bolts, blunt things and sharp pointy things kill people just as well as a gun can. Bonus info, arrows go through kevlar.

>>18253770
Put $1,000 into PNK, ETH, and silver each, and use the rest to buy a gun and ammo.

>>18253679
This is one of the most dumb statements in 4chan history. You see the stock market going up all these years? It's not really going up, it's the value of money going down. Compare Dow to gold prices and you will realise where we a re going. This is why stocks have a V shaped bottom.

>>18253714
anon i have a pm bag but i'm not so deluded to think that the sudden panic buying is anything but distribution.

>>18253770
BTC and ETH all of it ASAP

>>18253770
1ozgold, rest silver

>>18253403
My coin shop had a literal car drive through it a few weeks ago I dont even know if it's open. I did visit the pawn and bought some ASE and Maples for $20. Tbh I ordered from JM right at the start of the crash it took the order a little over two weeks for payment/ship. They're caught up ship times are showing 5+ days now, $99 min for free shipping. I still would like to go peak LCS, just not sure if open and stay at home order might be imminent
>>18253234
It's for doing your own pours

>>18253679
>>18253849
Do you expect a recover like B? Well, think again, it will probably be something like A, since money is losing value.

>>18253895
Forgot pic. Here.

>>18253863
>>18253846
Im not buying shit coins

>>18252293
If pennies are made of copper, why isn’t copper worth a penny?

>>18253927
You think Bitcoin and Ether are shit coins?
I guess I shouldn't be surprised you saying that considering you on 4chan asking people how to get tendies from your paltry $5,000

>>18253948
Btc and ETH are the future.

>>18252293
Cheap silver can be had on jewelry supply shops in the form of silver casting grain. You can also buy from jm bullion but they both could be jew liars and not have it in stock so be ready for that

You should unironically have some copper because normies and roasties dont know that it's not real and you dont want them to have precious precious silver when you need things from them so give them coppers.

t.copperstacker

>>18252723
I touch my silver all the time without gloves. Sometimes I even taste. Enjoy your silver.

>>18253995
You are an amateur and don’t know what you are missing

>>18253913
i was talkin about pms not btc

>>18253944
Every penny from 1982 onward only has 2.5% copper, the rest is mostly zinc.

>>18252293
>>18253205
LCS= Local coin shop. Most cities have one. My LCS has been selling a lot of silver lately and still has plenty of stock left. Hopefully your LCS had the foresight to stock up more than usual. Don't be scared about premiums, go in expecting them to be around 4-7 USD above spot per ounce. Good Luck Anons!

>>18253994
Lmao this nigga is going to be paying for blowjobs in silver beads and copper rounds

>>18254051
I am also talking about PMS.

>>18254086
Merc blowjob Chad's Rise Up

>>18254172
Im here.

>>18254124
then why use a bitcoin chart? they have completely different supply dynamics

>>18252293

Precious metals will crash in a few decades once the first massive asteroid is mined by space drones.

>>18254172
This is the calm before the storm. I shut you not.... my testosterone and sex drive has been pretty low this past year. Once this all started happening it’s like testosterone replacement therapy x3. My libido is like that of a 15 year old now... and I’m 38. I was jacking off maybe once. Week and now I’m beating off twice a day. It’s like my body knows that each roll of silver a buy means we are getting closer to face fucking formerly well to do housewives who’s husbands were too stupid to buy silver bullion.

>>18253444
checked

>>18252293
>also should i buy copper too?
instead of buying copper what you should do is get nickels from the bank

>>18254342

Oh no, we only get to live like kings for 20-30 years

>>18253948
Let me know when you can order a $2 sponegebob mechanical pencil from amazon or $17.43 in veggies from a grocery store with your BTC and ETH. Assuming the 1000000 other shit coins dont replace it, that is if all these exchanges dont run off with your money pulling another mtgox kek.

>>18254084
thanks mate!

>>18254314
That's a Dow to gold ratio

>>18254172
Picked up 80oZ more today.

>>18255110
nice pic

How does $20 per ounce sound? Some guy is selling a monster box of silver eagles, but only at that price if you buy the full box.

>>18254056
I thought it started in '83. I have a bunch of'82 pennies saved up.

Should i spend 230 on 15FV of mercs or scoop up some rounds for the price? I don't have any junk, but i do have about 135oz of rounds/coins/bars.

I just kind of want to put all my mercs in a felt bag and throw it around, but 15x is kind of expensive.

How much numismatic value do they have vs roosvelts/ other junk?? I can only find silver quarters for 14-14.5x and at that point I might aswell get the mercs

>>18255176
thats pretty good anon, what year and condition

>>18255368
Random years, think good condition.

>>18255308
why merc dimes and not just more eagles?

>>18255392
originally it was bc of lower premiums but 15x face is pretty steep /toz of AG. I just like the idea of 150 dimes in a bag to throw around. I suppose i can do this with cull rounds too haa

>import immigrants that do it basically for free
>encourage women to enter the workforce
>have businesses replace 50% of the work with specialized automation
>"WHAT THE HELL PAY ME AS MUCH AS YOU PAID SOMEONE THAT DID MY ROLE 6 DECADES AGO WHEN IT WASN'T TRIVIAL"

I had some conspiracy theory extended family members that didn’t have kids, so the silver coins they bought were split between living family
Due to this I have roughly 10 Troy ounce silver coins - not nothing but not anything insane - but they were free for me so I’m happy I have them
Thank you for your time

>>18255295
some 82 are copper, some are zinc with copper .

>>18253481
dudeweed lmaooooo

>>18253566
God i floofin wish there was a long john silvers near me

We getting desperate boys. $19 shipped and I'm calling it a win.

>>18256556
wtf are you supposed to do with this? whats the point of this over eagles or rounds and bars?

>>18256671
I'm planning to try and melt it to make miniature dildos and sell them etsy. I got bars and rounds for days already.

>>18252723
Buy two, one sealed, another for lewds.

>>18256671
Maybe in the future, if silver goes TO INFINITY AND BEYOND, smaller fractions might be useful.
But for now, stick with the ASEs; national bullion coins from your country are also OK.

>>18255176
>How does $20 per ounce sound?
That’s a good deal anon especially for physical. Is he local or will you have to wait on ship?

>>18256902
I don’t know about you all... but because of Corona this is the first time since college that I’ve felt alive. I have lots of silver and been waiting for something like this to happen for 5 years. The point where things get so bad that 1 silver Roosevelt dime will buy me a blowjob from a formerly well to do housewife and her 18 year old daughter at the same time. I’ve been waiting in the shadows laughing at these cuck husbands who buy their wives range rovers instead of buying silver bullion... knowing that I’ll be face fucking their wives mouths for the 1.30$ it cost me to buy that silver dime.

Just yesterday at Whole Foods I seamlessly entered into conversation about Corona with a roastie milf that had a ring on her finger in the water aisle... and I said this is all a cover for trump to bring us back on a gold standard. She started looking at me in amazement like she wanted me to paint her lips in cum. At the end of the conversation I’m like take my number l have plenty of protection and freeze dried food if you ever need it and she took it from me.

>>18257344
This pasta again... I'm not entirely sure what's worse, three months of an MRE diet or starvation.

>>18256556
imagine trying to sell those
>Dude i swear my steel ball bearings r silver bro!

If any of you are military veterans JM will give you the As Low As price on metals. It's a good deal, just need to contact them with your proof of service

>>18257488
pretty based desu

i have 10kgs of silver.. How Did i do?

Based on 2008 and the spike to $50 spot later on, and the events taking place right now, where do you see Silver and Gold going in the short and long term realistically and what are you hopes?

Is JM bullion or apmex cheaper?

>>18257437
All it would take is a magnet you retard.

>>18252293
You had 2 year

>>18257920
SD Bullion and Monument metals are way cheaper than both mentioned

>>18255150
I agree

>>18257978
>>18257920
Irrelevant. Who has stock and who ships the soonest is what matters.

>>18257978
Which one you like more? Do they require a money wire first order?

What I don't understand is that iff most of the online stores are sold out of stock, when will they get restocked with smaller bars?

>>18258083
Go to JM, click in stock silver. Either set alerts or check it autistically. Every other morning or so around 8-9 EST they've been getting stuff in. This morning they had 1 oz sunshine rounds and 5 oz bars. I bought a few rounds before I caught the bars in stock. Wanted to cancel to get a bar but too late. Anyway yah do that, I promise they're getting stock, it's just going quickly

>>18252293
You might check antique stores/antique malls in your area if they are open. In Phoenix all of them are closed but there are always dealers who have rounds or peace dollars. No sales tax and no shipping.

>>18258004
1. SD bullion tends to have the spiciest and most interesting deals during the holidays, but Monument Metals has by far the cheapest prices during the Coronavirus price gouging.

American Silver Eagles in Monument metals are several dollars cheaper/oz compared with all other dealers.

2. No need for wire for both dealers. eChecks accepted for first timers

>>18258003
I'm not sure about SD, but Monument metals kinda got famous for never canceling orders during a fluctuating market and doing the least amount of price gouging during 2008. They don't disappoint this year either.

Why are .999 standing liberties not as popular as .999 walking liberties?

>>18258306
Is this design not recognized much by dealers?

>>18258329
huh?

wat dat??

>>18258359
>can't tell if meming or legit question

>>18252293
Here you go, OP
https://digi-broker.com/?assetid=La7oaPL5gA8maMx4rRsjta6JKoZARGgg82Js7m#assets

>>18257978
JM bullion is cheaper than SD Bullion and Monument metals half the time.
Just look at what SD is charging for junk silver ffs.

>>18253205
https://digi-broker.com/?assetid=La7oaPL5gA8maMx4rRsjta6JKoZARGgg82Js7m#assets

>>18258393
I don't go the SD anymore ever since the panic buying last month. SD is pretty cool during normal times though. They used to regularly sell junk at spot price with or without holiday sales.

>>18257920
Just shop around. Do not play favorites. Prices vary for everything..
I've found deals on JM Bullion and I've found deals on Monument metals.
No one dealer is really that much better and they are just going to charge based on the amount of stock they can get their hands on.

>>18252293
>in 2016
Well, now in 2020, 5 silver quarters are worth $10.43, so what does that mean now?
https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1964?amount=1.25

>>18258393
Also the difference between SD and JM is that during the holidays SD Bullion's special sales literally beats the shit out of JM's """""""Deals"""""""""".

>>18257684
This will be way beyond anything we've seen before. Might take 2 or 3 years but the Russians and Chinese are clearly planning to return to a PM backed currency - hence the hoarding.

If the US dollar isn't PM backed, it will suffer massively. If it is, expect $100k+ Gold. Silver could sit at anything up to parity with that.

Expect tech to get expensive too.

>>18258461
>Expect tech to get expensive too.
First thing I did when Virus news broke was drop $3,500 on a top of the line battle station. Dropped another grand or two on mid-end audio production hardware. Some of those item lines may never come back, and the next lines may have entirely different price points...
Think about shit like high end processors, RAM or video cards...

>>18258527
>battle station
computer?

>>18258571
>battle station
>computer?
I'm talking big ass dual monitors, rainbow light up keyboard, honking big tower, top of the line vidya card, 64gb high end RAM, 2 TB SSD drives, top of the line processor, the works.
I currently have it running BlueStacks so I can watch my Wyze cameras and control my Smart Lites.

>>18258527
Smart move. Imagine a future where the poor have cheaper electronics and the rich use silver.

>>18252633
>Also, don't buy from ebay.
nonsense ebay is fine

>>18258609
I stopped reading your comment at "big ass" because I had to masturbate

>>18253778
burger here, I have a 60-70 lb draw compound bow. will that puncture kevlar?

I also have a gun so I wont be using the bow unless I'm camping in the bushes, just curious

>>18258630
>nonsense ebay is fine
You gotta be smart. I bought some batbois from a dude name larry who only sells coins and has 100k+ ALL positive feedback. He had a photo of him on the shit and he looked like the most legit boomer I have ever seen. Thanks Larry I love you man.

>>18258656
As long as you're not using a kiddy 10lb bow you can easily puncture kevlar. Pointier the head the better

>>18258461
You really expect 1 oz gold to hit 100k? What about silver? I thought china was selling all their silver too not hoarding them. Didnt know about russia

>>18258731
I'm gonna guess silver is hitting $60 in two years and gold is hitting $5000 before end of year.

>>18258715
kek I almost bought some from larry but I ended up going with a LCS that was a bit cheaper

>>18258731
1 oz Gold : $100,000,000.00 USD EOY

1 oz Silver: - đ 0.000001 Vietnamese đồng EOY

>>18258751
>silver is hitting $60
seems low, hit near 50 after 08 and 08 was nothing compared to now

>>18258764
>keeeeeeeeek
Laaaaaaaaarrrrrryyyyyyyy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwszQiNmS8o&t=41

>>18257948
>dUDE itS not ZINC111!!! I SWEAR!!!!11

>>18258808
Weights would be different.

>>18257437
It's for the shotgun shells

>>18256696
This anon gets it. Let me know how it goes i am doing essentially the same thing but will be using brass and aluminium and turning the profits into gold and silver. That is true alchemy.

>>18258609
Based af anon tell me more about your android blue stacks camera setup, are you telling me you are using other android phones as security cams?

I have like 6 fairly decent laptops and a dell xps desktop with 1070 that ive been hoarding. Several old android phones too. Never knew why but couldnt bear to part with them.

>>18257437
Imagine not having a metal forge and 3d printers to make molds and cast whatever the fuck you want out of old brass fittings and aluminium cans.

>>18260314
>PM stacker kills fiat dindu looter with a $400 silver 00 buckshot 12ga shell full of silver shot
based

>>18258609
>>18260532
Nvm just saw you said wyze cams. Going to copy this exactly. Based af. Been eyeing some wyze cams for a hot minute.

>>18253846
>Put $1,000 into PNK, ETH, and silver each, and use the rest to buy a gun and ammo.
>>18253770
^

>>18258630
can i trust this guy?

>>18259199
Lol
>what weights more 1lb of feathers or 1lb of bricks
You’re fucked.

>>18261232
You can 'trust' literally any ebay seller. Paypal/ebay always, *always* side with the buyer. Simple as.

>>18261273
yep, but it's a hassle if you somehow get fake or damaged goods and have to wait for ebay/paypal to refund.

>>18261153
>$500 to buy a gun and ammo.
sure

>>18261315
S&W SD9VE for like $320 and the rest on ammo. At least before this virus bullshit shut everything down and wiped out all the guns and ammo from gun stores.

>>18261232
he looks like a guy bein a dude, cant see any issue.

>>18258731
There are a couple different way to come up with moon math predictions on a PM currency.

If you go global annual gold production to global GDP you get about $750k - 1t.oz
If you go with a more realistic number: domestic Canadian gold production to Canadian GDP, converted into USD you get USD$250k - 1 t.oz

However they set the exchange, they need to do so in a manner that provides them with a rationalized GDP number for the year based off of expected gold production. However you want to stretch those numbers, you end up with USD$100K - 1 t.oz rates at a bare minimum.

>>18261232
Even reputable dealers can get fake shit. I've heard of people getting fake bars from high rated sellers

>>18261410
Sounds to unreal desu senpai.

>>18261448
Well the mining production numbers are public information. So is GDP data. It wouldn't be hard to build a spreadsheet that compares different combinations if you were interested in testing the math.

A possible explanation for the legislated de-valuing of our economies is the need to reduce GDP temporarily to rationalize gold holdings. You can halve the value per ounce if you halve GDP. It is something to consider. What we are living through right now is the introduction to an economic train wreck. I can't pretend to have inside knowledge about what comes next, but when it comes to PM currencies, they have to make holdings divide into GDP somehow.

>>18261252
you could measure specific gravity with a scale and cup of water, but it would be a pain

>Guy selling full monster boxes for $20 per ounce
>tfw don't have enough money to crank out and buy an entire box

It hurts, hopefully he still has a box left in a couple months, since he's selling multiple.

>>18261500
How tell me how much gold and silver do I need right now if im gonna make it in the new world

>>18261557
Whatever the silver:gold ratio is. Try to hit it as closely as possible.

I think it was 114:1 today. That guarantees you that is the ratio goes down you have enough silver left over to buy more gold, and if the ratio goes up your gold will be worth so much you will trade it for land anyway.

>>18261521
>$20 per ounce

Isn't the going rate like $15 per ounce?

>tfw you know the much alluded to silver surge of legend will probably never occur and this is probably just all the silver bugs coming out of the woodwork because of economic uncertainty, but you are still losing you ability to fight off the urge to click the buy button on 160 ounces of silver because fomo + economic uncertainty + societal instability = dubious purchases - dubious

>>18261604
$8+ spot usually

>>18261570
So right now I have $3500 I should go buy 1 oz gold and use the rest on 100+ oz silver or guns for 2 oz gold because I have 91 oz silver already

>>18261664
Go for 1oz gold and the rest on silver. If you need guns that is up to you. A good rifle and a couple hundred rounds will do you fine for hunting in the country. If SHTF to the point that you are in firefights, then you will be lucky to make it to your second or third mag anyway. Your best bet is cooperating with civil authorities so that the state can use its resources to maintain law and order.

Thought on silver: it is clearly massively undervalued right now:

"The ratio of silver to gold in the Earth's crust is estimated at 17.5:1. In theory, this means the price ratio of gold to silver should be about 18:1—meaning one ounce of gold would be worth 18 ounces of silver."

>>18261714
So real value of silver is like $90 an ounce

Please explain to me, a simple retard, how spot prices work? I.E. how they it remain completely disconnected from what these commodities actually trade for?

>>18261753
Value is relative, but if you go strictly off of mineral frequency, it is about 1/18'th the value of gold.

Ultimately, any PM currency would require a set gold:silver ratio and cash:gold ratio to function properly. So, if you buy 120oz of silver and then the government allows you to trade it 20:1 for gold, you just got 6oz of gold for a fraction of the price. Enough to make you extremely, extremely wealthy under those circumstances. At least enough to get productive land and invest in real estate rentals.

>>18261787
They don't. It is a money laundering scheme.

>>18261791
ill grab an ounce of gold and put the rest in silver, maybe ill go 5k in and get 2 ounce gold and rest silver

>>18261252
That's why you stick to a single type of coin.
Weight must be equal, and you can compare it with others, and they must fit over another one and have the same height in a stack.
Previously legal tender from your country (what Americans call "junk silver") is also acceptable, if they are available close to spot.

>>18261821
honestly if you fall for the silver and gold bugs on 4chan you get what you deserve.

gold and silver are both impurities in copper and other industrial metals that refiners actually pay to get rid of. So value based on scarcity doesn't matter in the slightest. We HAVE to mine millions of tons of silver and gold every year to get the copper we actually need.

meaning it's byproduct, it costs no more than lead or zinc to produce at most mines. It's trash they need to get rid of. Or at best an accidental bonus of copper production

>>18261940
So what you're saying is get stacks of copper

>>18261658
Buy a 1/10 troy ounce gold coin or a 1 ounce silver coin. You can also buy a junk silver coin.
But here is the interesting part: you will also buy a plastic capsule for your coin; I recommend the Air-Tite brand, ringed white or black, or direct fit, since this will fit any coin (there are several sizes and "adapters" available).
This will be your #1 (precious) coin, the one you will never sell. It doesn't matter if you had other coins before; this one is to start saving (never tell yourself this is for profit; you want to evade devaluation, gain aligning with your lifespan is a bonus).
As such, I would recommend a maximum of 500 ounces (you can buy official tubes and plastics later; stick to the same coin, as I said in >>18261835) and the rest should be put into gold.
I have heard that the Affordable Care Act, in the US, put a US$ 600 limit--I'm not sure this is the actual number--on precious metals purchases with cash, so you should buy the 1/10 toz coins. Ten of these are more expensive than a single one ounce coin, but coins over the price limit only will be sold for cash if your coin dealer ignores the law.
If possible, stick to bullion pure gold coins (Buffalo, in the US).
All American Gold Eagles are alloyed with copper, and can become reddish over time, something that you can evade with the plastic capsules. Maybe Buffalo coins are available in fractional sizes (smaller than 1 toz), but I'm not sure.
Photo is obviously not mine, I wish it was. Maybe someday, but I'm leaning towards the Austrian Philharmonics because its cute, glass-transparent tube for 10 coins.
I had a little gold and silver, and was forced to sell it because of The Virus. Bought as savings, they performed their function. After this is over, gold and silver are still within my reach, I'll buy again.

>>18261940
giga galaxy brain IQ over here

>>18261940
Not exactly trash. What happens is this. Non primary silver mines (the ones that extract silver as a byproduct) would be dumb if the cost to extract the silver impurities is smaller than selling price and they just threw it away.
HOWEVER, with a low paper price (like now), a lot of secondary silver will not be produced.

>>18252293
>In 1964 the money was different that it is now, also silver
do boomers really

>>18261987
what? no.

Look, if you need to collect metal or guns/amm or knives or shurikens to make your dick hard and make you feel like you have some control and power in a world you don't control then by all means go for it.

but don't tell people they're going to make money off it, that's just silly. The world has seen countless economic collapses, and none of them produced the sorts of gains 4chan schizos expect on the daily.

>>18262072
>Non primary silver mines (the ones that extract silver as a byproduct) would be dumb if the cost to extract the silver impurities is smaller than selling price and they just threw it away.
what they do is either mark it as 99% profit on the books and/or subtract the profit from operating costs of copper production. Either method rewards shareholders, but what I'm saying is the cost of production is essentially nothing since it doesn't matter if they're removing gold or silver or lead or zinc. All of it has to be removed, it's all trash as far as the copper process goes. So basing the value on real scarcity or what it costs to mine the stuff is extraordinarily misleading. Most of it costs nothing to produce and it doesn't matter if it's scarce because it HAS to be mined either way to get copper.

>>18262117
So what you're saying is that owning copper will make my dick hard?

>>18262150
It depends on the purification method. Specific inputs can separate copper and zinc from all the rest, that must be further purified if you want to get another specific metal.

>>18262172
might work.

only you can answer that question.

>>18262184
Not at all. Flotation and cyanidation are the most common processes and both require the removal of heavy metals first since they precipitate out first or are skimmed first.

>>18262192
Silver and gold are denser than copper and zinc, but so are other impurities like lead. To extract silver from the rest, it must be specifically processed.
Depending on the composition of the ore, gold and platinum can be always worth extracting. The same can't be said about silver, that has a much lower price.

Remember the most important thing to remember is to say in your head fuck niggers when buying silver

>>18262213
As a side note, the lower platinum price made some gold economically not viable; it is difficult to separate gold from platinum, and if the cost of processing both is higher than the sell price of both metals, it won't happen.

>>18253605
I don’t think you understand how inflation works.

>>18262150
And finally, if copper extraction is reduced or stopped because of a recession, yes, silver as a byproduct will also fall. But this will make silver supply scarcer, and demand by silver bugs is a reality, and usually has an inverse correlation with the state of the economy.
Not that what you and I said are both true; my point is that the perspective in this subject, like all others, is not black and white. Several factors must be taken into consideration when making a purchase as an investment.
I personally believe that precious metals are something good to have, not to go full retard. I never would buy them expecting riches and blowjobs.

>>18262150
And finally, if copper extraction is reduced or stopped because of a recession, yes, silver as a byproduct will also fall. But this will make silver supply scarcer, and demand by silver bugs is a reality, and usually has an inverse correlation with the state of the economy.
Note that what you and I said are both true; my point is that the perspective in this subject, like all others, is not black and white. Several factors must be taken into consideration when making a purchase as an investment.
I personally believe that precious metals are something good to have, not to go full retard. I never would buy them expecting riches and blowjobs.

>>18261658
You're still stuck in the Fiat Mindset, thinking that you're actually "risking" your "money" by buying PMs. Keep in mind PMs have historically been the foundation for money until the most recent ~70 years, where the entire paradigm shifted away from sound money and towards debt and infinite printing. You don't even need to buy 160 oz. None of us are trying to scam you or get you to buy our boomer rocks. In fact, most of us are the "never selling" type. Our valuation of true wealth is based on how much rare metals we hoard, along with other things that are valuable, defensive tools, and various objects that make life comfortable. At this point I would rather have another 100 oz of silver, another 1 oz. gold, and a fleshlight, than normalfag shit like a gf and a luxury downtown apartment.

One last thing, some of us such as myself are actively seeking deals, including on ebay. I am buying still and don't care about premiums or any gay shit like that. Premiums are meaningless if the paper spot price is meaningless. If things do get worse, expect the price to continue going up and the scarcity to accelerate to the point where you won't find a single oz. for sale because no one is willing to sell for worthless cash. It's already happening with gold.

>>18261252
stinky shill with your endless mind games and sophistry.
a 1 lb. sack of feathers would feel different and have a different mass to it than a 1lb sack of bricks, even though both are of the same weight. there is such a thing as DENSITY and MASS. you can FEEL IT. especially if you gain experience. when i hold a real bar of solid silver, i can feel its heft, its energy, its subtle vibration, the way it quickly absorbs the heat in my hand and warms up. i can know through sensation that it is real and not filled, not corrupted. besides this, there is the simple ice cube test, or the simple "hot water test" to see how fast a coin or bar in question can transfer cold and hot respectively. if you have a microscope and a petri-dish you can also test the oligodynamic effects. silver is antimicrobial. it can also be sawed in half or melted, if you want to go to extreme lengths.

>>18262376
>At this point I would rather have another 100 oz of silver, another 1 oz. gold, and a fleshlight, than normalfag shit like a gf and a luxury downtown apartment.

Good advice or not about PM, this is true wisdom regardless.

PAWN STARS pawn shop has silver at 18 an oz.

Several mints have silver at 18 and 19 an oz, but have long waiting, like 20-25 days or more.

>>18262496
But what does the Hardcore Pawn store have silver at?

>>18262496
sad thing is the insane open-borders white roasties look so much better than the screeching insectasoid anti-migrant azns in this graphic. thus my comment above about fleshlight.

look, at this point, there's tons of evidence to support the case for silver. it's even used in military socks to prevent bacterial & fungus growth. silver is both useful and beautiful. same goes for gold.

>>18262576
I'm going to risk that similarity is what drives the concept of beauty, so among their peers they are alright, and the whites look like aliens.
Only sheer force of Hollywood drives, for example, eye plastic surgery. If whites become unfashionable, the trend will reverse.
Reminder that once being fat was a marker of having access to scarce food, and was appreciated.

the other day whilst at the grocery store, i got $50 cashback using my GayPal™ business debit card....the cashier gave me two 20's and a 10. all three notes were disgusting and borderline tattered. wrinkled. soiled rags. looked like some crack addict wiped his homeless asshole with it and then used it to buy a mcdonalds. i was genuinely disgusted when she handed me the notes and i asked if she had a $50 and she looked at me like i just punted her dog for inconveniencing her with such a question.

long story short....fiat is nasty and the only respectable bills left are 100's. basically every 20 note i've seen lately has not been crisp or new-looking. the newest cash i've seen are $1 mnuchinbucks. the fed isn't even BRRRRing out new paper fiat, they are that lazy and hateful towards the goyim. they want us handling currency that is torn, dirty, falling apart. symbolic of our own cities. when i hold a 1 oz. coin, round or bar of PM, it just feels so clean and good.

>>18262645
Coins made of precious metals are not proper for circulation. Being softer, they wear with more ease (just look at junk silver). The metal is worn out and lost. Typically, junk silver has a 5% mass loss compared to a new coin, but it is sold and bought near spot.
Using silver and gold (which is even softer than silver) for general circulation -- and jewelry -- destroys them. Ideally, they never should be touched. Modern plastic capsules alleviate this problem, but they scratch with ease; again, not good for general circulation.
This points to use them as savings--something that rarely will change hands.

>>18262630
i don't know about that. it's partly brain-washing by hollywood. but it could be innate recognition of beauty in terms of facial geometry. white males are seen as objectively good looking from the perspective of non-white women such as azns. even if you took the top 0.1% of best looking azn male models and actors, their faces have similar geometry and proportions to whites. the more gooked their faces are the less attractive they appear. same goes for azn women who have pseudo-white features either through surgery or random genetic luck. dark faces are universally seen as shocking and scary though. show a baby a pale face and it will like it more than if you showed it the same face painted black.

>>18254050
>imagine having a penis so micro its covered up by a 10 oz bar

>>18262763
Maybe. Geometry seems to be important, like you said. But cultural factors are also important; 10/10 tend to be specific for each person.

>>18262743
yeah, i'm not smart enough to design a new currency system that will make everyone happy. if we got rid of cash entirely then it would make the anti-cashless people mad. if we combine silver with other metals to harden it, then it will last longer but still a pain in the ass to carry a bunch of oz. in your pocket. there's many issues. electronic/digital methods can be hacked, yada yada. of course we run into the ultimate problem of how we can trust that the guardians and makers of currency are making it faithfully and not cranking out fakes or unlimited units. we all trust ASEs and sovereign mints, but they're also connected to the same government assholes who keep printing infinite fiat. "value" is such an intangible and flexible...entity...a hot girl with an onlyfans account can make $20k per month, meanwhile some guy has to be smart to make that much via day trading. meanwhile, some other guy is cleaning toilets to make $20k per year.

>>18262764
>i've seen this image at least 3 times and clicked to see the full-size twice
2nd time just to reply:
>t-that's not a 10 oz bar

>>18262815
American coins used 10% of other metals. But no matter the proportion, some wearing will always happen. And eventually, inflation will catch with melting value, so the coin will be debased (the precious metal content will be lowered). When coins were made of precious metals, they always had a metal content with smaller value than its face value.
Actually, the best solution is the system we have now. Those who wish, can buy metal rounds certified by governments, regarding to their authenticity.

>>18262852
I don’t know about you all... but because of Corona this is the first time since college that I’ve felt alive. I have lots of silver and been waiting for something like this to happen for 5 years. The point where things get so bad that 1 silver Roosevelt dime will buy me a blowjob from a formerly well to do housewife and her 18 year old daughter at the same time. I’ve been waiting in the shadows laughing at these cuck husbands who buy their wives range rovers instead of buying silver bullion... knowing that I’ll be face fucking their wives mouths for the 1.30$ it cost me to buy that silver dime.

Just yesterday at Whole Foods I seamlessly entered into conversation about Corona with a roastie milf that had a ring on her finger in the water aisle... and I said this is all a cover for trump to bring us back on a gold standard. She started looking at me in amazement like she wanted me to paint her lips in cum. At the end of the conversation I’m like take my number l have plenty of protection and freeze dried food if you ever need it and she took it from me.

>>18262576
Roasties depreciate within a 20 year timeline. Asian qts hold their value for 50 or more years and offer other investment perks.

It's like choosing between a chocolate bar and a bar of silver.

>>18262763
you know what never became unfashionable? Being white. Blacks, asians and indians all lust for the same superior genetic material. You can struggle against this idea to try to feel good about yourself, or you can accept it.

Buy gold now or buy silver and sell when it goes up then buy gold? If silver goes up wouldnt gold also go up? What did gold do while silver hit 50 dollars after the 2008 bullshit?

>>18263445
>then buy gold

You wont be able to find any when that time comes
The ratio fags are always ignoring that this will be the reality. Get both.

>>18253444
Lol based plus Europe has stronger currencies than the US dollar pound or euro will survive past the dollar but who knows the entire monetary system could collapse together ...

>>18252293
Buy from some eBay faggot who doesn’t know true value . Don’t be a faggot and believe the CNBC comex price
Youl kill yourself in regret

>>18253444
From here, in my Fifth World chair, it looks like the polarization between right and left in America can make at least a flashy civil extermination -- not war, because one side has all the guns.

>>18253849
>It's not really going up, it's the value of money going down.
/thread x literallly everything that's happening or has ever happened or will happpen

>>18258329
thats what is called a "Standing Liberty" i think. was minted in multiple denominations, like dollars, quarters, halves, or something

>>18262934
ehhh that's only true if you pick an azn with great genes and she's half your age. if she's the same age or a couple years younger, she'll age badly as well. especially on a western diet.

>>18263234
cherrypicking. being white is great if you are good looking. there are some really fat and/or ugly whites out there who get mogged by non-whites who somehow, through random genetic luck, got a straight nose ridge without large nostril flare. i'm too lazy to look up examples. being a fat/ugly white guy is awesome if you're mildly successful and have self-respect. look at drew carey, he gets pussy and he doesn't need to go to SEasia to bang filipina whores.

>>18258329
>>18258306
that's a nice titty

>>18262870
Stop spamming faggot.

>>18264620
I'm not the one cherrypicking. There are examples of latinos, asians and negroids you can cherrypick that can look good. Statistically, however, the good looking features are all on the white field. Plus, no minority can have those features without some white blood.
Also, even if you're Drew Carey and you're successful, you'll still be an ugly ass piece of lard, and you'll know it subconsciously and try to over compensate. You can't have self respect and be fat at the same time, change my mind.

>>18257344
Absolutely based and redpilled

>>18252633
Hell. Not even specifically wheat pennies. Any penny older than 1982 contains more than one cent of copper. I'd guess 20% of the pennies I get in change every day are 1982 or older. I throw 'em in a bigass bucket every night. I see a wheat penny maybe once a month.

>>18252723
Buy a generic silver round and touch that instead. But store it in something relatively airtight if the shinyness gets you off, because silver tarnishes quickly when exposed to our filthy disgusting air.

>>18253039
What's was your mom's going rate then and now?

>>18262117
Caracas Venezuala is a violent shit hole and has more murders than the middle east.
Entire country of South Africa is a violent shit hole and farmers have been defending themselves with firearms.
While I agree the 4chan schizos overdo their prediction, guns do matter in a serious collapse, economic or otherwise.

>>18252293
You should be buying copper, but not as an investment. Put that shit on all your door handles and bed frames. Copper is a natural antiviral metal and we're all sick because we don't use it for anything but wiring anymore.

>>18252293
Suterusu is the new silver, desu.

>>18261232
probably
his score is pretty high and ebay is pretty good at keeping sellers mostly honest
really depends how much you're buying though and what

>>18264927
are those the twin towers on fire?

>>18261683
nice deals on platinum right now. i got a platinum eagle for $820 the other day. i have 200oz silver and 2oz gold already

>>18266912
AGE OF THE THOT

>>18267160
you ain't see nuffin yet

>>18267539
shame it's not a nationally backed mint

>>18267539
Damn look at those fucking tits

>>18267583
Those are eagles

>>18267601
That's a man.

>>18267583
they do a really stupid looking 10oz coin, same diameter as a 1oz, just ultra thicc.