/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18257620
only a smart, traditional one.

>>18257620
dont show me this picture ever again please

>>18257620
Not really but the alternative is a horrible investment as well. Loneliness kills

>>18257620
Uh, that is a man.

If you get a virgin.
>t. Met my fiancé at 15 in high school and swiped her V card

>>18257785
Congrats you faggot. I am a 26 year old man and this dream is dead for me and most others here.

>>18257785
Lol at believing her

>>18257805
you might still be able to find a 15 year old virgin, dont give up

>>18257833
Thank you mason dubs.

Wow its literally my ex gf

God im a pathetic cuck

>>18257620
Lol why is this so fucking accurate

>>18257855
>on /biz/
>pathetic cuck

Checks out

>>18257870
because this is based in reality

>>18257855
so long as you keep talking about yourself in such a negative language, you will be. if you can recognize how fucked up she was and just be better in the future, it will all work out king.

past doesn't matter as long as you just strive to be better.

>>18257620
>15 or younger
so 95% of girls?

>>18257805
I'm 27 and my trad gf is 22, she was a 20 year old virgin when I met her
Dont give up hope, king

>>18257785
I hope she isn't Chinese.

>>18257908
whered you meet her?

>>18257620
this is 90% of women

>>18257620
i'm glad to be gay desu, i don't have to put up with women bullshit

My roommate is the stereotypical liberal switch playing simp who met his shitty gf on Bumble. I fucking hate that bitch, and she literally is always at our apartment for days on end. She's not even attractive nor interesting. Her hobbies include drinking wine and watching netflix. She doesn't even fucking greet me whenever I say hello to her. Like, show some fucking manners, especially when you're a guest in someone's house. I'm fucking fed up of this bullshit. Next time she doesn't say hello to me I'm going to go off on her. Fucking stupid bitch. I hope she breaks up with my simp roommate so that he learns his lesson, and that she goes on to become a shitty, vindictive spinster. FUCK!

>>18257785
Lol @ believing her

>>18257971
>My roommate is the stereotypical liberal switch playing simp who met his shitty gf on Bumble. I fucking hate that bitch, and she literally is always at our apartment for days on end. She's not even attractive nor interesting. Her hobbies include drinking wine and watching netflix. She doesn't even fucking greet me whenever I say hello to her. Like, show some fucking manners, especially when you're a guest in someone's house. I'm fucking fed up of this bullshit. Next time she doesn't say hello to me I'm going to go off on her. Fucking stupid bitch. I hope she breaks up with my simp roommate so that he learns his lesson, and that she goes on to become a shitty, vindictive spinster. FUCK!

>>18257785
>>18257908
Lol @ believing her

>>18257908
I met her in college, but that was like finding a needle in a hay stack and required luck.
Her and girls like her are the standard in local churches, finding one there requires no luck at all

>>18258005
Honestly at this point I would accept someone who could convincingly lie to me. Let them have their delusion.

>>18258005
>he doesn't know there's ways to physically check
JUST

>>18257620
No but a wife is.
An ex wife is a really really horrible investment so be careful!

>>18257971
Good. Put the cunt in her place.

>>18257855
>ex
A cuck no more!

>>18257971
>Next time she doesn't say hello to me I'm going to go off on her
Better late than never

>>18258013
Was a reply to:
>>18257930

>>18258005
>>18258034
Virgin means not even kissed

>>18258028
Have some dignity

>>18257855
>my ex gf
its almost like theres a reason shes your EX!
pick your head up king, you cant see the road in front of you

>>18257620
Children are investments. Spouses/etc. are overhead.

>>18258013
Yeah, but even then. That's no guarantee they won't be a good partner. A couple of lads I know started going to church and dating traddy gf, but both of them were really sheltered and just weren't mature enough.

>>18258898
Well said.

>>18258898
Based.

Does biz really believe a girl who's not a virgin or has had sex with just a few people is damaged goods? It's time to step out into the real world or resign yourseves to waius lads

>>18257805
Its like looking in the mirror

>>18259016
>/biz/
You mean men. And yes, we do. For thousands and thousands of years, in fact. Just because it's more common doesn't mean it is now "good".

>>18259016

Having sex early and often can fuck with a girl’s psyche. Speaking from experience

>>18259064
you're a girl???

>>18259056
>>18259056
Wasn't saying it was good or something to be promoted, only that a girl having a few sexual partners by the time she's in her mid twenties isn't a big deal and doesn't make her lolol blown out roastie gross bro ur a cuck nao lolol

>>18257620
Lol I had an ex just like this. The great thing about these girls is you can treat them like total shit and use them as a cum receptacle and they’ll stick around until you get bored of them.

>>18257805
Not true, late 20’s here and met trad gf who is around 21. Lots of girls don’t lose it til 21 22 anyway. Even ones who seem slutty frequently just made out a lot. Mine has dated, never sucked a cock or been fucked before me.
Sometimes its religion, upbringing, general self respect or a mix that keeps them virginal for some years after high school. Usually as they get older that mix comes up against the influence of wanting to have a man, which in the current year usually means fucking or at least sucking.
There’s a whole array of diff trad levels though, some will have sucked ferociously but never been fucked, some maybe made out a ton, got felt up party types but still immature, others that wanted to save it but maybe cuddled topless with a high school bf. you don’t want full on still really religious, it can be a manifestation of mental illness.
tl:dr ymmv, but there are plenty out there. Don’t seek it, but if the opportunity arises make an effort, that time invested in the gamble alone feels like living.

>>18259064
Hard agree. I'm not encouraging promiscuity, just saying I don't see someone having had a few partners by the time they're, say, 25 as enough to write them off. This is normal.

You cunts live in a fantasy world. The majority of you are weird social outcasts and think you have enough social capital to somehow manage to land the only 9/10 25 year old virgin in existence in western society (who would most likely also be a freak like you).

Grow up and wake up to yourselves, I think you opinion on women is a reflection of just how out of touch you are

inb4 projecting. Fuck off

>>18259135
no

>>18257620
Have any of you incels considered finding a chick who DOESN'T dye her hair? That is literally all I see in incel iconography, as if dyed-hair freaks were the only women in your purview.

>>18259016
You have to go back, cuck.

>>18257620
>has fucked several guys in her friend group that her bf has to hang around with

>>18257805
Sucks to suck
>>18257820
>>18257919
Seek sunlight

Well anons the pros about being a man is that our junk lasts for years. Even if you're 26 you can still find and fuck 18 year olds. Thankfully for me I look incredibly young still, I've also been working out and I'm going to try my hand at speed dating soon.

kissless virgin still but I'm gonna go for it bros, worse case scenario I get wizard powers and have viable blood for ritual sacrifices

>>18259194
Atta boy. Good luck fren.

>>18257752
Have been investing in loneliness. It fucking sucks and I would do anything to have a qt gf right now but at the same time being dumped by my last gf also sucked a ton.
Seems like there is a similar amount of suffering either way. The former is more tortuous, more drawn out, and probably worse for your health but the latter can devastate your financial life. Pick your poison

>>18257855
>God im a pathetic cuck

>>>/SelfImprovementGeneral/

>>18257752
does it though?
I don't know if volcel is a thing, if so, I'm one
I had gfs, had sex, but I can't take relationships. As year went by I broke up sooner and sooner, and now I fugg once every few months one night stand, or a few times over a a week or so, and 100% celibate outside of sex.
I've never felt as good. Life is simple, I do what I want, whan I want. Of course, I'd like to have more sex, but at the end of the day, relationships make me miserable, celibacy at most causes sexual frustration here and there, but celibacy and loneliness don't necessarily go hand-in-hand. You can be single with a wide group of friends.

>>18259016
Women who have sex with many different partners aren’t like guys who do the same (given that the guy is just average looking and decent with people, and not a model, those are exceptions. This is because women are the sexual market makers, and so a woman who chooses to have sex with many different partners is either: 1. Incredibly charismatic and diplomatic, this is a true keeper but accounts for less than 1% of women by psychometric distribution. Or 2. She has a casual disregard for intimacy and the feelings of others, or an inability to plan ahead or exercise any kind of empathic prediction. Expect burned bridges throughout her past that she brushes off casually. Ask the guy and get a heart-wrenching story of betrayal, though. This is the most common, this is a “bitch.” Or 3. She recognizes the power of being a market maker and has inextricably entwined sexual dynamics with social or financial dynamics. This is the type of woman to fuck for drugs, money, status, or virtually anything other than an emotional connection. This is a “slut.”

Any woman who wanted to could simply settle for one of the partners she already expressed the ultimate form of intimacy with freely, and her choice not to do so is a hugely significant signal of her preferences in the wider world. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to fuck you over or feel better about their own poor choices. Numbers are roughly: 10 or under is a reasonable number for someone without a college experience, 20 with college, 40 for a high performance college & career gf who wills demand the best from you.

t. autist who got laid a lot thanks to genetics

Women who have sex with many different partners aren’t like guys who do the same (given that the guy is just average looking and decent with people, and not a model, those are exceptions.) This is because women are the sexual market makers, and so a woman who chooses to have sex with many different partners is either: 1. Incredibly charismatic and diplomatic, this is a true keeper but accounts for less than 1% of women by psychometric distribution. 2. She has a casual disregard for intimacy and the feelings of others, or an inability to plan ahead or exercise any kind of empathic prediction. Expect burned bridges throughout her past that she brushes off casually. Ask the guy and get a heart-wrenching story of betrayal, though. This is the most common, this is a “bitch.” Or 3. She recognizes the power of being a market maker and has inextricably entwined sexual dynamics with social or financial dynamics. This is the type of woman to fuck for drugs, money, status, or virtually anything other than an emotional connection. This is a “slut.”

Any woman who wanted to could simply settle for one of the partners she already expressed the ultimate form of intimacy with freely, and her choice not to do so is a hugely significant signal of her preferences in the wider world. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to fuck you over or feel better about their own poor choices. Numbers are roughly: 10 or under is a reasonable number for someone without a college experience, 20 with college, 40 for a high performance college & career gf who will demand the best from you.

t. autist who got laid a lot thanks to genetics

>>18257620
I'm 7/15 with my gf... Big oof.

>>18260947
In reality, according to statistics, people who go to college/university have less sex because they are occupied studying and preparing for the future. And odds are that intelligence generally goes hand-in-hand with being less sexually liberal. Sexual liberals are the kind of easily influenced lowlife trash watching reality-tv and actually considering whatever transpires within to be "role-models." And, yes, this includes 110 IQ feminists who have "humanitarian" meme college degrees and think this makes them intelligent, when an IQ of 110 is still genuine idiocy level under consideration of human standards. So it depends on what kind of "college" you are talking about. If it's a liberal feminist with meme degree... maybe you are right. But these aren't women you should pursue with the intent of forming any kind of social relationship in the first place.

>>18257620
Bump

>>18259105
that's where you're wrong bucko

I don’t get it, how hard is it to not have tattoos

>>18261857
Then everyone clapped

>>18257620
>you browse 4chan since age 15 and now at 28, your socially autistic and imagine entitlement to a sexually submissive virgin.

Grow up!

>>18257971
nigger does your roommate pay his share of the rent/bills in full? if so, his (big key fucking word right there) guests dont owe you shit you retarded autist.

>>18259083
It is just sad to watch. Cringe.

>>18259194
This is my path.

Invest in an Asian waifu. Premiums are negative right now, and the long-term gains are off the chart.

>>18262225
>>you browse 4chan since age 15 and now at 28, your socially autistic and imagine entitlement to a sexually submissive virgin

my ex literally fits nearly every one of these

guess it's good that i'm fucking free and already have another fwb

>i miss what we had anons but it's getting easier

>>18257620
Yes, some women lack guidance of morality in a strong wedlock. But that is Jewish suggestion by Hollywood, mass media and entertainment.
Sad, but not every whore get suck rich dick to make a fortune like movie RATS = STAR
...and she became like a sperm toilet, you visit her, relieve your steam and go away. Imagine she claim you are daddy to her baby and after you get married, comes out kid not your race.

>>18257620
there is no problem or shortage of money, there is enormous shortage of reliable people.

>>18259056
I am a man and I don't think so. Please don't speak for me

>>18262273
This

>30
>Never had a gf
>Only hope of ever getting a gf is complete social collapse and an end to Chadism
>tfw soon getting a gf will be as easy as it was in the old days, just pick out a wench and promise her one meal a day and children

Can't believe I'm about to lose my virginity thanks to a chinese bat virus
Thank you China

>>18259447
Yeah, being alone for long periods apparently triggers the release of stress hormones the same way flight or fight responses would of activated in early man when being rejected by the group. It apparently raises your heart beat etc. On the other hand being alone gives you time to develop yourself to an extent. Too long alone and you loose your social skills etc

>>18257752
I plan to breed 100 women, so 15 years later my children will fight in a epic tournament for the Golden Cloth of Sagittar

>>18259158
They repel all the other ones who can sense how twisted their hearts are.

Lmao this is quite accurate. My first gf was exactly like this. Unironically fucking is the only activity you can really do with them.

>>18259016
>t. Seething roastie toastie barely holding it in

>>18257620
Only if they’re just 18. Anything older I’d deprecating value that you should upgrade

>>18259135
No one is suggesting find a 25 year old virgin. First of all that’s too old and second it’s very rare. The age of consent in most of America and Europe is 16-17. So find a virgin in that age group and then influence her to be someone you want as a gf/wife

>>18259016
Just because women are increasingly degenerate doesn’t mean we compromise our values, that’s how good values die.

>>18259106
Based and relatable fren. Toxic relationship sex is the best.

>>18259016
cope

take the tomboy/lesbo pill

>>18260807
Literally me.

>>18264841
Being a whore is the equivalent of being a coomer, just having no self control and being depressed.

>>18257908
>20 year old virgin
You either got lied to or she’s a goblin. Yikes

>>18259016
A loser dating a literal whore and can't cope with it typed this post.

>>18257620
holy fuck this is a low blow op. kek

>>18266062

What if 98% of couches had been skeeted on, and the only ones that hadn't been were musty old pieces of shit? It's hard for a girl to walk through life from age 15-21 and not catch one dick out of the many that get thrown at her.

>>18262273
Yeah, but so what? The stupid bitch goes around as if this were her house. She leaves lights on, leaves open cupboard doors, and leaves the toilet seat up. I wouldn't mind her if she was hot, but she's too unattractive to be pulling this shit

>>18262706
then you are a boy mistaking yourself a man
cúck

>>18257620
my gf pays my bills so yeah

>>18266729
Shes going to leave you

>>18257805
It isnt because of your age dude, you must not have any game if you cant still get 18 year olds

>>18257620
My ex to a T, goddamn well done

>>18259016
This has been the perspective for almost all people for almost the entirety of human history, and only very very recently has there been a push for it to change, but for men it hasn't really changed

Can't think of a worst investment. Women belong in cages.

>>18259135
Being healthy in a sick world means being a freak
You are right that the quality of girl desired by most people here is far beyond what they can pull but they can change that

>>18259016
people don't start long relationships without knowing the partner is of good character
being a virgin was just a reliable and quick way to judge a woman in the past, it was a sign of good character and fidelity, the whole boyfriend-girlfriend thing didn't exist back then relationships between men and women didn't even exist unless married, so being a virgin was just confirmation you weren't a whore. This was the norm and most people were married by 20 back then.

that world doesn't exist anymore and judging a womans character has become less obvious and time consuming although the worst is that being with an ill-suited woman is detrimental to men in todays society both financially and emotionally. People are getting married much later in life and half of those marriages break down. The kids that are growing up today are going to look at us as examples of failure and it has nothing to do with virginity, I dont think even the men who advocate for it realize that they are talking about a trust issue not an actuall sex issue.

>>18262822
fucking based supremeposter

>>18257855
It’s the same as my ex, you’re not alone fren we can support each other here. Mine told me she was pregnant and fucked another dude 50+ years old australian guy named Harry three weeks after we broke up

>>18257620
>Is a gf a good investment?
Pussy has always been a depreciating asset

>>18259016
cope

>>18257620
Virgin wife only
All else is speculative

>>18259016
imagine being so insecure about your used goods gf you have to project your subconscious disgust for her on an anonymous image board

>>18259016
cope

>>18262822
nothing can repair your personality after spending your entire teens/20's as a virgin - you're also un-ironically a misogynist. Did any of you ever stop to think that the "secret" to getting a gf is at least in part simply through having genuine love and affection for them? I hate faggots like you, you want pussy but you're too fucking weak, pathetic and gay to get over yourself and fuck an appropriate girl - you can't even field interest from an average looking girl because it is obvious that you spend your free time bitching and complaining, as you slowly but surely shift between misogyny and pornography, until you arrive at "traps aren't gay/boys make better girls"

life is a single player game and you're fucking losing, buddy. maybe you should switch up your playstyle?

>>18258013
I lucked out as well, exact same thing with me, literally the only non degenerates left are trad christian women. Or I guess Muslim women, but I'm white and proud of my roots.

>you're also un-ironically a misogynist

>>18257908
>king
you can always spot the lying nigger

>>18267445
Where do boilerplate, basic-bitch posts like these even come from? Even boomers don't get this bad at finding a topic they know nothing about and asserting themselves into it with faux authority.

>>18259083
That's a man.

>>18267751
>>18257908
oh I didn't even see that, disgusting

>>18267445
>you're also un-ironically a misogynist
lmao you say this like I give a hoot

You're right about one thing though, spending your entire teens and 20s as a virgin and being forced to sit on the sidelines does give you a powerful perspective on it all. I'll never forget their bullshit and how they claw over one another to fuck criminals or 6'6" abusive Chads and then act upset once they're abandoned as single mothers or get beaten nearly to death. I'll remember all that when they're lining the streets begging for food and I offer a slice of bread to the first cunt to spread her legs and cram a fence post into it.

>>18267445
>nothing can repair your personality after spending your entire teens/20's as a virgin - you're also un-ironically a misogynist
Lmao get a load of this moralfag

>>18257908
>she was a 20 year old virgin when I met her

>>18257620

i never understood why men get so triggered by women who lose their virginity at a young age when we were all trying to get that done at the same age.

I lost my virginity at 15, idk why I would hold a woman to a different standard than I hold myself

>>18267993
That meme is generous. Most girls these days lose their virgininty when they are 12.

>>18267993
i assume it has something to do with boiling in your own internal rage for 10+ years

>>18267993
found the roastie

>>18261857
Lol, epic!!!

>>18257871
t. pathetic cuck

>>18267993

I think the rationale is that most kids with good parents had no chance of finding a way to get laid at age 14 or 15 (including girls), so if she was losing it that early it's just a red flag for other things. Kids have a lot of dumb ideas regardless. If she was sleeping around at age 14 she was probably unsupervised/guided and is a nutcase as a result.

>>18257620
This is pretty accurate to my gf when I first got with her. I’ve put her in her place and made her cut off contact with her exes, but too bad she’ll always have the piercings and tattoos.

>>18261857
Kek, fucking roastie got a reality check. I cant believe women like this actually exist, but then I remember they are all like this subconsciously. This roastie just accepted it and went with and got BTFO'd.

>>18257620
no, get a bf

females are a waste of time and money

>>18257620
Only the used goods ones that have qt tats and dyed hair and can ride cowgirl anal and are nonplussed by loads to the face.

Avoid starfish trad thots. Boring.

>>18268444
Hello there Moshe, working from home are we?

>>18268444

Fuckin sucks dude. It's either fun sex or wife material, hard to find a perfect marriage of both.

>>18257971
> saying hello to a thot
the fuck is wrong with you kek
lmao ngmi

>>18257752
Also girls like this kill

>>18259016
Don't forget 4chan is filled with autistic losers and ugly ones. They can't know the thrill of dating, seduction. 4chan is a wonderful place to talk freely about a topic you like (due to autists who are fond of it) but never adress any personnal topic, it's mostly depressing.

>>18268619
pretty true yeah

Here’s my problem
>loser growing up
>no self confidence
>bullied throughout middle school and high school by chicks causing dudes to beat me up by the whim of those women.
>had GF’s but they all cheated on me
>graduate high school hating women and since I didn’t really have friends didn’t care what people thought
>started college by banging sloots due to me not caring anymore and being a cold prick
>began getting more sloots which made me angry because they wanted a mean dick not a nice guy
>dropped out joined the Marines
>would bang many sloots and even prostitutes (which sometimes were for free)
>got out went to school again banged more sloots and usually dated pretty hot chicks
>realized I knew the right things to say and found most woman liked me more than I could like them.
>dumped them all at the whiff of their usually BS making me the guy they texted even years later.
>grew to realize this was a problem and I only added to it by my actions of perpetuating this behavior. Which destroys their ability to pair bond and emotional damages them.

Now I have put away that life and got back to the Catholic Church. The problem is that I see women for what they are (mental children). I want a wife who I recognize will be my responsibility and is the fairer sex (child like but serves a good purpose) but I still see red flag behavior in a lot of them and don’t put up with it at all.

Ironically I now know how to get women but would rather Pray, read, workout, or do anything else than pretend that I enjoy their company.

EssentiallyI became what my younger self dreamed of and I find that I cannot stand the company of women due to me only wanting to bang, and sadly that’s the only thing 90% would be able to offer.

>tl;dr: some women are pretty good gals, but they are still women, they have the emotional stability of a child and once you understand them you want nothing to do with them; just as any normal man wants nothing to with the company of children.

>>18268106

i mean technically I'm a chad, but sure whatever - sorry I live the life you desire

>>18267848
>I'll remember all that when they're lining the streets begging for food and I offer a slice of bread to the first cunt to spread her legs and cram a fence post into it.

Extremely based sir

>>18268783
>i mean technically I'm a chad

>>18262343
You forgot the part where you also have to have a good job and buy her designer clothes or her and her whole family will secretly hate you

>>18266287
>I wouldn't mind her if she was hot
Are you by chance, a cuck?

>>18257620
Why did all white girls get like this, bros?

>>18268346
This. Caring about the actual sex part is incel tier, but the implications of it are important

>>18268783
chads don't go on 4chan to brag about themselves being a chad

>>18268783
This nigga probably thinks being blonde makes you automatically a “chad”. Probably looks like a soiboy irl

>>18259016
You lose your ability to pairbond when you slut around, roastie.

>>18262706
>I am a man and I don't think so.
No, you're not, commiefag.

>>18267445
>fuck an appropriate girl

What does appropriate even mean? Leftists like you get mad at men for not having sex and mad if they have the “wrong” sex with women that are younger, less wealthy or if they’re asian

And guys who do get laid a lot are also misogynists. They just hide it when around women and basedbois

>>18259135
>just swallow your pride and become a cuck
>man up and marry that whore
yikes

>>18268765
Take the monkpill, anon.

>>18262955
based

>>18267445
>calls other people misogynist
>is homophobic and uses slurs
Not based. I support gay rights and people but only if they’re men

>>18262866
just checking, but you realize you can have friends while not being in a romantic relationship, right? there's a huge difference between having a gf or wife vs. literally not talking to anyone ever forever as a hermit in isolation.

im single but i live near my parents and siblings, and have friends both at work and on the baseball team i like to play in for recreation during the summer and hockey in the winter. it's great and i have lots of time to do what i want with my life with no succubus holding me down and making my life miserable.

>>18269046

You have to literally view women as pieces of meat to manipulate into your bed in order to be a player and get laid often. These people are clueless.

>>18262343
based

>>18257620
Only if she can withstand a successful hipthrow or hip check into bed.

>>18269089
>You have to literally view pieces of meat as pieces of meat

>>18257730
It’s quite the kick in the nuts when you realize how accurate it is

>>18257620
;^) yes

>>18257620
Only if she’s a tomboy. I should know - I’m still with the one I married 15 yrs ago.

Tomboys are the ultimate straight mans choice. A regular girl has tits and a pussy but comes loaded with gay shit such as makeup, desire to shop for clothes and useless shit and watching boring shit on the telly.

A gay dude is gay but he has a partner that shares his interests.

A tomboy has the best of both worlds, a female body but enough fitness to keep up with your male interests, and a good personality.

A trap is 200% gay. Not only are you fucking a dude you are also putting up with the faggotory of a female.

>>18269609
How do you find a tomboy exactly is it location/sport/ family/etc.?

hello is this the incel thread?

>>18268906
Fake news.

See page 49
>tinyurlcom/white-gold-digger
Add a dot

>>18269609

Yep. Had a breddy good tomboy gf some years ago. She didn't want kids though, had to cut it off. Somewhat masculine chicks are the best.

>>18257620
Only if you have my gf

>natural blonde hair
>5'11"
>lost virginity at 22 when i took it
>never wears a skirt above her knees
>goes to church
>anti-abortion
>good cook
>always talking about kids and wanting to be a mom

>>18264841
>hapiness

>>18269049
Stay salty

>>18257908
>she was a 20 year old virgin when I met her
>20
>year
>old
>virgin
>she
Anon...

>>18257908
>gf
>read
Marry her or fuck off, nigger

Guys given the state of the modern American women is it even worth dating and eventually marrying them? I'd imagine European women are worse. Help a 23 year old doomer whose never had a relationship see the light: Am I boned?

>>18270378
In before fat ass incel.
I am a 5'9 manlet with black hair and brown and somewhat "overweight" need to lose 10 pounds to become my healthy wealthy according to physicians. Also got a masters degree

>>18270378
I have heard European women are better. Either way I wouldn't make sweeping judgements without having been there. As for American women, I ditto the sentiment in this thread: Christian women are your best bet for a stable marriage and they may even respect your chastity. Best of luck

>>18259016
You see, it's much easier referring to people who actually have got laid as damaged to protect their own ego. Simply put, anyone who can't get a shag with a little bit of effort is clearly the damaged one lmao

>>18270457

>t. hasn't had an insane, damaged girlfriend down his throat about not having sex at least once or twice per day because it constitutes the core of her ego, while she accuses you of secretly masturbating all the time or trying to get with other people when you really just don't want to have sex daily

Damaged is real and damaged is what I avoid now. It's a strange kind of hell.

>>18257620
i've gotten a few girls into anal. i almost exclusively do anal with my current gf. to all you second hand buyers: you're welcome.

>>18270427
Thanks, I don't know I thought maintaining chastity was worth something but it seems to be a mark of shame in the US at the very least and even my parents nagged on about me not getting a GF, which gets annoying because they are at the age (mostly my father) where they want grand kids and expect me to conjure a relationship out thin of air.
> Which is stupid because they actively hamstrung my ability to develop a relationship by going out and finding someone. Didn't let me get a part time job because cash is king for relationships, pushed me through the college scheme emphasizing "studying and academics", and didn't let me get a means of transportation and go out to parties and events where I could further socialize until the end of senior at high.
> white father, hispanic mother

>>18266062
>pebble yeet

>>18270427
Not the ones from western europe. lol

>>18269089
But it’s like you can’t win with leftist or Americans in general. If you get laid you’re bad if you don’t youre an incel. Only if you’re in a serious relationship or married to women your exact age is it “appropriate” to them

>>18269089
You need to take the vanilla pill, bro.

>>18270541
Lmao doing gods work anon send em my way

>>18257620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci3_R1uHIXw
nope. not unless you can get an amish 16yo and live the in the amish paradise.
Or muslim.
Or orthodx jew.
Or etc...

>>18270564
Aren't the eastern ones just as bad, but without that "Muh stronk women shit". For example Russia has the largest abortion rate in europe and basically is on par with a New York Ghetto planned parenthood. Unless you have recommendations.

>>18257620
Fuck no. OGN, LTO and ZANO are

>>18268346
15 is almost 16 which is the legal age in most places in America/Europe. If your parents prevent you from getting laid or a gf at 15/16 they’re bad overprotective parents. That leads to incels or guys with arrested development

>>18270546
>Parents are extremely controlling and restrictive during your entire young adulthood
>"Hey son when are you gonna get a girlfriend, I bet there must be a girl at school/work you like don't be shy haha ... you can always tell us if you're gay you know..."
I think a lot of parents of that generation just bought into fear and paranoia of the age, and then assumed that somehow it wouldn't negatively impact their children at all and they would just fall into success like they did

>>18270566

Now you're starting to get it. This merely revolves around the leftist belief that men are servants to women and the only good men are the ones that do exactly what they're told. And it makes sense when you realize that 70% of leftists are women.

>>18269761
Is this telling me that race mixers make more money and asian couples make the most money

>>18260807
>volcel
>100% celibate outside of sex
You're not a volcel. You have nothing to do with being celibate, you literally just have dry spells, just like every other normie out there; absolutely nothing to differentiate you from them.

>>18270647
The image tells you white men make the most money with Asian wives because they're happier and smarter.

The link tells you Asian women don't need any money to marry a white man and white women need a shit ton of money to marry any man, especially if he's Asian.

>>18270609
>What made my situation worse is that both of my parents were immigrants and until I was 12 I was an only child and I was and technically still living in LA a place where most of the women I know would make Soddom and Gomorrah look chaste.
>Factor in about my dad's advice about letting a women come to you instead of approaching them and the fact that my mom was hellbent on me getting a college degree (because she didn't get one) meant that the game was rigged from the start (literally got into an argument with her recently and basically had her say that I was too smart to join the military, police, or trade schools).
>Also never had the opportunity like other colleagues to go explore with friends and shit because I was always kept on a tight leash.

>>18266287
Ugh people like you are the worst. You’re so anal retentive that leaving a toilet seat up is like someone is choking out your dog. It takes you less than a second to fix those things and your “yeah but it’s the principle” is just sheep’s clothing for the fact that you’re actually a sociopath with impossible standards that you don’t even meet. You leave a thousand figurative toilet seats up for other people to pick up after without noticing, the only difference is that they don’t bitch at you about it.

>>18270766
Your dad gave good advice. Only cucks chase women.

>>18257908
20 y here, a lot more girls are virgins than people think. definitely not the majority unfortunately, but a lot of people have skewed views of younger women.

my view was negative and has evolved to profoundly negative. hopefully more women become closer to their femininity during quarantine than those who will retreat into alcoholism or something similar. finding a good women at this point is a matter of becoming the best man you can be and then hoping divine intervention takes care of the rest, when you are ready

>>18270804
The issue is that advice only works if you have three things a women looks for: looks, cash, and power. I have none of those: I am decent looking I just need to lose more weight and get toned, I am a poor fag, and there is no way in hell I will ever have power I am not charamstic enough nor built for the spotlight (like to be behind the scenes like a puppet master)

>>18270718
Or maybe that asian women are demanding money grubbers, and only accept beta providers whose sole worth is his income?

>asian miscegenation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hicC53AhZ6Y

>>18270501
Actually (sorry for wall of text)

>Be me, Irishfag
>Starting biology degree as 18 year old virgin
>Always had gift of the gab, had fooled around and made out with loads of girls but never shagged as small town mentality and all boys school
>Struggled to get laid at start of uni, ended up bringing 3 girls back to mine but never shagging
>Read to fake it until I made it
>Genuinely doublethinked myself into thinking I had got laid before
>Went to club, pulled girl and shagged with ease
>Started chain of events that kind of put the reputation out that I was a shagger
>Ended up hooking up with a 7/10 (8.5/10 with makeup) on my course a few times
>No idea how to fuck well but by god I learned
>Going out over year and a half
>She's a headwreck, argues constantly, can't please her, but we shag 2/3 times a day
>Can't see a future with her at all, get scared that if she missed the pill my life is ruined
>Break up when starting med school
>Go from shagging constantly to fuck all
>Bounce from girl to girl but it never feeling right, shag ex once or twice but resent myself for it
>Eventually
>Meet new girl midway through seeing another that I was wasting my time with
>Immediately break up with timewaster
>She's a classic modern Irish girl, Catholic (I'm non believer but raised the same), lovely gorgeous, good craic and funny, properly lovely kind soul
>Get together
>I actually am her first
>Fall for her
>She goes off on holidays to Asia for 2 months
>I shag around me in the meanwhile
>She comes back
>She wants to go steady properly
>I tell her and break her heart
>She forgives me

We've been going out since. She went up about 3 cup sizes when she was away, so I love life. The only problem? Her libido is quite low compared to my training with my prior disaster, so we only shag once every 2 weeks these days. What can ya do?

>>18270602
Swede here. I only have experience with our thots, but I doubt it's much different in the rest of "liberal" europe. Hard to think that any group of women could be worse than what we get.

>>18270898

Yeahhhhh as I mentioned earlier m8 it seems like the two choices are fun sex + headcase, or stable girl + meh sex life. Women are emotional creatures and it seems like these things come part and parcel.

>>18269674
Actually found mine at a party an ex of mine invited me to. Were I to do this again I'd join an activity based org - girlygirls don't go long distance walking, for instance

>>18270836
>roastie projection
Asian girls seem to like white guys and building happy, wholesome families.

>>18270801

>bitches at an anon getting upset about some dumb girl not following common courtesy in his home

No, you're just a nigger enabler.

>>18270924
Have you hear of Icelandic or French women. Isn't the stereotype is that the average swedish women fucks men like an Italian smokes a pack of cigarettes 20 a week.

>>18270898
>Not giving her the dick whenever you want
You are not controlling her enough

>>18262273
incorrect.
anon has paid to live with someone, not two people. if she is staying over a significant portion of the time she should not only be pleasant but pay rent.
if i go halves with a roommate then he sublets his half to fifteen gooks, i have been swindled.

>>18270941
>seem to like
how about you actually talk to one asian girl and then get back to me you faggot.

>>18270941
Till your kids don't know who to identify with and go full postal like those happa mass shooters.

>>18270980

This. If they're a male, they'll be wishing they were white and resent you for it. WM/AF is just selfish.

>>18271002

I have to friends of WM/AF relationships. The white guy + Chinese is a tall chad dental student, the white guy + filipino is kind of beta. The problem is that a lot of the white dads are shy betas who realize an Asian girl is their best chance at scoring someone out of their league.

>>18271002
My dad got lucky because my mom is an almost castizo she's like 70% european with native admixture according to those ancestry tests and it lines up with my grandparents side as my grandfather was a mestizo but my grandmother line was pure Spaniards.
>Thats why everyone says I look like him but only with black hair and brown eyes and I hope to catch a white gf (which is funny because my mestizo grandfather supports believing in the saying mejorar la raza, while my mom says I should date a hispanic which god forbid I don't want to do)

>>18270965

Let's hear those hot suggestions

Does anyone know if there is a section of 4chan where this stuff about relationships is talked about exactly?

>>18271284
In these threads, whenever they appear.

>>18269219
lol +1. too brutal

>>18271307
Honestly I feel like there should be a section on this stuff because talking to you annons feels pretty nice compared to me having to pent it up or slugging it out with my parents when they start pressing me on it.

>>18271111
Be a man

>>18270980
>>18271002
Go back to Яeddit

>>18270836
Read the link, spastic. Proves you wrong.

>>18270955
>Have you hear of Icelandic
I remember seeing an article that said that islandish women are the only women on the planet who are more promiscuous than our gals. lol It's supposed to be common there to fuck each other as a greeting, before you know each other's names.

In my opinion a gf is what you make of it. There's guys whose gf's gives sex on tap, always pay for their own stuff (or most of it) when going out and are pleasant and low drama to be with. Then there's guys who are total betas whose gf's walk all over them, order them around, demand they pay for everything and use and abuse them. It literally is up to you.

Or you could have two or three fwb's if sex is the only thing you care for. ie: if you are not stupid.

>>18270977
You're deluded. East asian girls are far, far more family-oriented and chaste.

>>18271574
>I remember seeing an article that said that Icelandic women are the only women on the planet who are more promiscuous than our gals. lol It's supposed to be common there to fuck each other as a greeting, before you know each other's names.
Don't forget that it is such a common practice that they have had cases of actual inbreeding to the point where the government that had to create a genealogical app to make sure that you weren't fucking your cousin like them good ole' boys in Alabama.

>>18269001
How would you know?

>>18272307
Common knowledge

>>18270898
That was the most Irish post. Get it together potato negro

>>18258898
Smart

>>18257805
26 is prime age to rob the 18-21 cradle

>>18270898
Jesus christ paddy, with that amount of fucking you're about to cause another potato famine on that island of yours.

>>18257620
That's a man

>>18270898
you have to make her feel like she wants to fuck. the other guys are right, women are emotional creatures. you have to paint a picture in her head of what she is and why she want to be that naughty sex vixen.

paint a picture, frame it, be it, teach her what her role is, and most importantly, encourage her so that she likes it. you have to fuck her brain lad, that's what women love

>>18272586
Explain

married men make more money, on average, than single men. therefore it is a good /biz/ness decision to get married.

>>18267993
Men spread their genes two ways:
1. Pump and dump with easy lays. Bang the nasty, slutty, easy girls with no investment for a chance your seed gets her pregnant. If it doesn't, no big loss. The idea of investing in such a woman (i.e. marriage) disgusts and horrifies men, since this woman is very likely to cuck them.

2. Find wife material, invest heavily in the children you produce together. Obviously this means finding a woman very unlikely to cuck you, since you don't want to invest everything in kids that aren't yours.

Men will follow these two routes to varying degrees. Some men will stay chaste to a single woman only, others will never settle down and just chase easy lays. Most men will try both to some extent (e.g. find wife material but don't turn down a quick lay).

Men that didn't follow either of these routes did not pass on their genes for the above reasons. Men without a fear of being cucked got cucked and so died out.

Men don't hate women who are slutty, they just don't want to commit (or be tricked into committing) to them.

Women are the same with a dual approach of banging chads and fucking betas.

>>18257620
Why isn't her head at least half shaved though??

>>18273243
Survivorship/ selection biases?

Can't you just say the men who make more were selected by women first? Very unlikely that they were selected by women which catalyzed them making more money somehow

>>18273455
theres tons of lurking variables, i just thought it was fitting for this thread and its funnier to make no explanation
more likely that people who are married tend to be older and you accumulate more wealth as you get older. could be other factors too