/biz/ - Business & Finance

Fuck bulls

>>18199263
fuck niggers

gay thread
who longed oil

>literally everybody is fomoing in while simultaneously expecting that their fomo will result in an immediate crash

what the FUCK do i do when this is market sentiment

Fuck all of you

RDS.A CALL STRIKE 21 EXPIRATION MAY
pls tell me im gonna make it, got like 100 contracts

Trump will hold a press briefing 1 minute after close tomorrow where he announces that coronavirus was an april fool's joke and we have all been pranked epic style

>>18199276
Dumb weebposter

>>18199276
>long oil

I hope you are not serious anon, at this stage it's obvious that shit's gonna hit the fan. <$1 by end of May

fuck anime

>>18199287
hetfags can leave

Futures pointing up and I’m FOMOing hard bros...

>>18199296
y apu hurt anime

>>18199286
Printer malfunction will cause FED to print debt notes instead of cash. Game over

Morning lads.

Who here sipping and working from home

It's almost April already!
Everyone remember what T.S. Eliot said about that one :O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkATXrh7Iec

GO FUCKING DOWWWWN

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>18199306
Go back>>>>

>>18199306
reporting in

>>18199306
I'm making breakfast
no work this week :3

>>18199299
>kokosuki
What does this mean? something about liking that area?

Buy into oil right now, this stock will only go up once the corona goes away. We're looking at 100% gains here

>>18199328
ye

>>18199331
got rds.a calls for strike of 21

>>18199331
based post desu

>>18199331
>leveraged oil ETF
>what is roll over
>what is ETF decay
>what is price war

The absolute state

Good evening, lets get this V bottom going. "There is no success without hardship." -sophocles

>>18199299
You mean нeт?
>>18199325
Akastuki a cute
Season 3 when

alright, fuck it
dumping a quarter of my cash holdings into MSFT, XOM and ABN

hopefully my sacrifice will bring on the second leg down

This dead cat bounce is going for way too long

>>18199363
>evening
wakey wakey time for sausages

How BVLLish is this?

Guyse you don't understand how "pricing in" works.

Job reports are public on Friday. So they will be leaked to institutional investors 1-3 days before. Then when bad numbers come out, it's already time to pump for the weekend

>>18199420
peak delusion

>>18199378
>German economy grinds to halt
>DAX up 2.5% today already

What is dis shit

>>18199411
Very. Also priced in.

What the fuck is happening bros?
>>18199234

Now it’s up another 3.45% premarket. That’s an 11.45% move through yesterday. On nothing.

On a vaccine that won’t make them any money.
what the fuck? I wanted to buy more! It’s one of very few companies that I know has a solid balance sheet, is a divvy aristocrat and very based. It’s not fair!

>>18199353
The stock is only 17 cents a share, if it goes any lower just buy into it more. The demand will go back up that's when you sell for the most gains. 17 cents a share will turn into 15 dollars a share

>>18199429
Dont know either
Fucking retarded market
FUCK

Should i buy back in?

>>18199445
lol

>>18199429
Germany went up because its blindly following sp500, which went up after dax was closed

>>18199429
I lost a few grands already, but hey at least everyone will be fucked in the future so i don't care about money anymore

>>18199465
Why is that bad advice

>>18199445
Its a leveraged etf. It's never going to 15 usd. Leveraged instruments decay.

>>18199445
I-I-... don't know what to say anon. Might as well buy bitbean, super cheap at the moment

>>18199429
Helsinki stockmarket up by 4,5% while almost 1/3 of the population are under lockdown and over 250 000 people are under staff reduction conversations.

Everything is good.

>>18199483
>>18199353

>>18199483
because there's no telling how many reverse splits it will suffer before it goes up again

>>18199429
DAX is blindly following the US markets.
>>18199497
There is almost no traffic here in bavaria. I saw some police cars and some people going to the supermarket. The rest is closed. The police stops people who walk together because meeting people that you dont fuck or share blood with is forbidden.

Everyone I know is either "working" from home or not working at all.

>>18199485
Let's say it even reaches 5usd a share that's still a 30x return on money

Uh could you please not go up so fast I want to buy more of you

>>18199506
I thought it was being de-listed?

>>18199533
Franconia reporting in. Can confirm. Auto industry belly up

Hot takes on oil? Or is everything priced in?

>>18199541
You're trolling right?

>chinks own 1-2 trillion of US treasury bills
>use them and other assets to back loans
>buy the shit out of western equities
>use the newly purchased assets to leverage more debt to buy more western companies until you are leveraged to the max
>control the world

Why didn't you guys tell me to buy oil? :(

e capitulated and fomo'd? you know what to do

>>18199541
Dude I've never even thought about that strategy; holy fuckking shit this guy
Dude post how much money you make, I had no idea that you could do this and a lot of other anons here haven't even considered it
you're a genius

>>18199545
KULMBACH
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Mein kleiner grüner Kaktus
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>>18199551
>Hot takes on oil?
Will go up if Saudis say so.
Will go down if Saudis say so.

In my opinion there is no reason for the Saudis or the Russians to pump the price right now. They need the US companies to crash first.

If we aren't red EOD I'm going to lose my mind. This market is beyond reason, no wonder volume is decreasing, nobody wants to trust such a disingenuous market.

>>18199541
>YTD: -99%
What could go wrong

>>18199571
It will be green right until the day where you FOMO in

>>18199540
i have a strike for rds.a on 21 eur, 100 contracts with may expiration, not so sure its a good idea desu, will sell if i go in the green

>>18199543
well that can happen too. I don't follow that shit closely

>>18199571
maybe you already lost your mind in the past /
and your current feelings of insanity are the true "you" trying to regain control of your mind

>>18199571
I’m really confused. In Australia today we had the market up over 3% and closed at -2%. This is just such a fucked market.

>>18199580
Im 100% thats the case but i want to buy microsoft so baddly

>>18199589
Get out of my head

>>18199279
This rally is driven purely on cognitive dissonance. Shit's going to pop sooner or later.

>>18199331
This isn't a stock this is an ETF

>>18199642
It's driven on retail investors getting scammed by news media telling them stocks are """""discounted"""". Incredible that this works every time there's a crash, the rich dump their bags and the average person who only just got into trading is left holding for years to break even

>>18199642
well, if they keep it up like this all bobos are broke so only the big boys are able to short it when the dump comes

Lads, can't someone explain to me why stocks are booming again? I'm holding stock so Im happy but I just don't get it. I can only assume it's

>Some optimistic numbers in Europe on covid
>Brrrrrrrrrrrrr
>Trump
>USA don't care

Remember a few months ago when the words to go by were "Cash is trash"?

I think we're back in Cash is trash territory?
Invest now or get left on the launch pad.

it hurts

my stonks are bleeding so am i but yeah i'm not the only one atleast

Everyone knows it's rigged so the billionaires don't lose their money. They try to keep the working class happy by giving them a 1200 check while creating a bigger bubble.
How can anyone even go long or short in this shit market?

Tell me good chink stocks to buy on NASDAQ
Baidu? Alibaba?

>>18199472
>blindly following sp500
And what's sp500 following?

Shouldn't investors be investing in the companies they are buying stock from?
Is no one worried about bankruptcies?

Cruiseship companies will not get back up after this for example.

>>18199666
Bull trap most likely, volume on the buying is trending down, indicating a reversal is imminent. Second leg down should hit close to the bottom though, so it's not a bad idea to buy here if you are planning to hold long term.

>>18199670
No worries teddy, third cycle is about to start.

Time to change longs to short. Goodbye bull friends, I had fun.

>>18199666
>Some optimistic numbers in Europe on covid
After Italy numbers looking like past pivot point but turned out they are not.
Spain passed China in infected and have their healthcare system on the brink of collapse.

This hasn't even peaked in Europe, and the US is just beginning. Also, fucking Brazil, their president told people to stop being pussies and leave house to work.

>>18199710
Sp500 follows emotions, fomoing and mania and the investors looking forward to make money in short term. Selloff ran out of steam and there were no breaking news during the past 1.5 weeks. Ofc institutional investors buy it back because the rebound was expected, no meaningful reports coming out before end of week and there is plenty of time before Q1 and Q2 results come out. Now the rebound is running out of steam though.

>>18199739
>Spain passed China in infected
well they didn't really, because Spain doesn't have as many citizens as china had infected but they passed the reported number

https://youtu.be/U_bUpN52Iyw
This is bullish!

Is this priced in?

Why does oil swing up and down about 7-10% every day? Cant it just pick a spot and settle

>>18199773
Oh god oh shit brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr shiiiiit brrrrrrrrrrrrrr BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR BRRR BRRRRRRRRR

>>18199713
Why should I trust this

>>18199798
Saudis are pumping and the US is slowly winding down production

>buy low sell high
Don't you get fucked by taxes and fees compared to buy & hold?

Just saw that Boris the Cuck was tested positive. So now we have Merkel and Boris. Whos next?

>>18199823
>Residing in a country with capital gains tax

>>18199832
Merkel was tested negative though, no? Boris is news from last week

>>18199798
I agree that these price moves in oil seem high to me, feels like they should be half as much of this up/down movement.
I don't have any explanation.

>>18199823
it depends
but many people get fucked over by their own impatience more so than fees (cheap these days) and taxes (only big boys pay real taxes)

>>18199851
I don't really keep up with cuckrope news so i might be wrong and it might be old news.
Still, these leaders seems like they preach one thing while doing the opposite (ie reducing physical contact, social distancing) every single time they're on television. So surely more will come?

I literally liquidated my short positions right now. Bobos are you ready? It's gonna tank form here on out.

>>18199852
>fees (cheap these days)
>taxes (only big boys pay real taxes)
Not true at all for me in Europe. If your investment strategy here is anything other than buy one index fund once per quarter, then you might as well burn your money. Hence why I'm asking.

>>18199863
If you don't know shit then maybe just don't spout wrong info? Merkel went into voluntary quarantine for quite a while

The Dax is still eating ass atm
Come on GERMANY LETS GET BIGGG COME ONNNN

Is animal crossing the most /biz/ video game?

>>18199888
Meh, if i spout wrong shit euros will rush to correct me. No better fact check and memory refresher than saying something wrong near them

>>18199895
Nah you can pay off your money easy in the game in real life it's soul crushing to earn money and trying to make more is risky

>>18199887
I just buy stocks all the time
feels good

>>18199895
I feel like the actual real life financial system is the most /biz/ of all video games
IMO any video game economy that someone makes will be less compelling than the real life economy/markets that you can go and participate in.

>>18199799
oh shit i'm gonna brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>>18199713
NEEDS
MORE
LINES

>>18199290
Peak bobo

>>18199895
nah that would be maplestory and TF2

>>18199571
NOOOOOOO BOBOBROS RED LINE SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN FOREVER NOOOOO THE STEEPEST DROP IN HISTORY ISN'T ENOUGH WHY WAS I LATE TO THE SHORT PARTY

>>18199953
Don't forget runescape

Stocks will never go down again, will they? We solved the economy, now they'll go up 5-9% a year until forever. Nothing will stop this train, we're facing nearly 40% unemployment and the market isn't even flinching.

>>18199895
Not it's the most boring game series ever

>>18199984
haha yep guess we... Dare I say it?
Returned to normal?

>>18199987
this doesn't make any sense.
it has to fucking pop but when? Every other crash took months if not years to fully bottom out.

>>18199895
Nice fax machine.
I have a lot of office furniture like documents, coffee, office chair, etc if you want.

>>18199987
Why are you niggers so impatient. Stop buying puts only a month out ffs.

>>18199987
Well yes. It's a new paradigm, after all. It will be different this time.

>>18199284
yikes. i think you might get lucky with a small bump but it could go either way,

>>18199926
runescape's financial system is based

>>18199331
honestly this is a fun YOLO, i put $100 into this on the off chance it spikes if any news happens from trump begging the saudies or russians to stop. just be aware its delisting soon

>>18199995
>30% drop is just business as usual

NOOOOOOO BOBOBROS

>>18200023
i would like to close it in the green, not necessarily go in the money, but i have 100 contracts, so a bit worries, bought it for 0,09

>>18199317
>>18199325
Based

>>18200047

>>18200006
Who cares? The fed will keep printing money. Maybe we will become the second Japan?

>futures slowly going negative
uhhh, bullbros?

>>18200072
More like second Zimbabwe

friendly reminder that today is the last day for pensions funds to rebalance their equity/bond portfolios by purchasing equities that have gone down in value. This extended dead cat bounce has just been portfolio rebalancing and traders getting in ahead of this rebalancing spike.

Today's fall as everyone gets out will be almost a biblical as tomorrow's when the pension funds start trading freely as well

You didn't think stonks were actually going to keep going up when the world economy has totally shut down did you?

>>18199485
actually its getting liquidated in a couple days. the good news is its like .18 / share right now and its apparently going to give you .20/share on liquidation so you technicall can make money on it

U ready bros

>>18200084
You must have the numbers wrong, otherwise that is a 100% certain investment return.

>>18200065
sorry i re-read your other post again you should do fine. i thought it was expiring tomorrow, but i see you bought for may

>>18200083
Haha brrrrrrrrrrrrr.

>>18200083
What is your actual evidence for that?

>>18200087
>>18199877
God i hope. I sold microsoft @148 because i thought the dead cat would start dipping. I want to buy back now but knowing my bad luck, im 100% sure it will tank as soon as i FOMO

>>18200103
its a big bet desu, for my budget, and i need a big bump to go in the money, but appreciate you reassuring me, it aint easy holding these bags

>>18200083
I don't believe in growth but source for this

>>18199773
yes, its priced in. keep buying

>>18200070
Look at muh graph

>Wonder why its not going down
>Buy in with a meager LMAO100€ to trigger the crash
>Bogs misread and think I bought in with 10000k€
>Dump it all today
Today will be the biggest dump in history

>>18200148
someone here is too cocky....

>>18200100
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200319005840/en/Citigroup-Announces-Acceleration-Series-ETNs

>>18200148
>this time it's different

>>18200124
personally i wouldnt wait until the last minute to sell, try to sell soon after you see profit. this market is too unpredictable and you could see gains wiped overnight or even in the middle of the day depending on news

>>18200152
Says the Bobo

Lol

>>18200169
i'm rekt and out of any cockiness

>>18200164
Seems pretty predictable at the moment up almost every day

>>18200111
>>18200130

evidence? it's quite well known that pension funds tend to have very strict asset allocation limits but ok here is a news article if you prefer

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-usa-stocks-weekahead/wall-street-week-ahead-fund-rebalancing-could-help-buoy-stock-rebound-idUKKBN21E1J8

and not only have equities cratered, but bonds have mooned, so they were very out of whack. of course traders will have been trading on a very well known phenomenon

the real question is when the big drop happens. euro markets are already starting to slide, but the funds have all of today to buy and still have lots of money left

Will this happen again?

>>18200164
no but i need a strong pump to actually sell 100 contracts in the green

>>18200199
Euro markets trading up today

*ahem*
*shuffles papers*

NIGGERS

Watching futures makes me want to die

>Nothing going on
>Futures hit +2% then -1% in <2 minutes

>>18200200
I think so personally. Though it mainly depends on how Asia does coming out of this crisis, 80% of their revenue is from Macau and Singapore. Its worth keeping in mind that back in '09 they were losing so much money sheldon adelson had to loan the co a billion to keep them from going bust, so I would be wary of buying when it gets that low even though they survived last time.

I wanna DCA into oil. What's the best way to long oil (with some decent diversification)? Only familiar with USO and GUSH but those seem to decay like French cheese. Thinking of holding for at least a year.

>>18200220
Only because they cached up with sp500 that went up after europe closed yesterday and people are FOMOing in

>>18200259
Should we go for MGM instead?
https://www.casino.org/news/mgm-resorts-is-the-lone-remaining-bidder-for-an-osaka-license/
They have their IR project while the other casino operators don't have anything planned

>>18200269
Buy long term calls on a variety of oilers

>>18200258
Are futures markets really useful for anything?

come on pump MFA financial again, made a massive return last week, sold at the peak and bought back in yesterday. come on come on make this retard rich

>>18200299
making money

>>18200283
I actually have long term calls on USO (probably not too smart, couldnt resist the cheapies). Any suggestions for tickers?

>>18200199
so what youre saying is that starting tonight and going for approx 2 days it should be a landslide?

>>18200332
nah it's all priced in

>>18200332
Nobody fucking knows dude people have been saying "it's going to crash and burn tomorrow" every day for a week know.

This market makes no sense.

Stock Wars: Revenge of the Bears

What are some promising biotech companies? I think I missed the bottom at my current favorite...

Sooo if support here breaks, where is the bottom?

>>18199263
first time futures went from green to red isn't it?

>>18200440
1800

it feels like everybody "knows" there is a second drop coming and the people who actually have the money to take advantage of it are just sitting on the sidelines waiting so they aren't in a position to panic sell
that's why NOTHING surged when the market dropped. people didn't go into another product or gold or crypto or anything. they just went into cash as quickly as possible to wait for the expected drop, dead cat bounce, second drop, and bottom so they can buy back in
everyone trading right now are the bulls and bears FOMO'ing themselves into poverty

>>18200221

>>18200445
Jerome just has to wake up. Don't worry

>>18199799
>>18199940

>already losing money today and market didn't even open yet
GOD DAMN IT WHY DO I KEEP FALLING FOR THE ETF CRACK

>>18200409
>This market makes no sense.

It does tho:
We click buy, it goes down
We click sell, it goes up

Super predictable

>>18200450
Have markets been low volume the past week?

>>18199895
Vicky 2 is probably up there

>>18200149
Why does that happen?
Why do stocks tank the instant I buy?

>>18200450
steady in, steady out

>>18199263
>tfw went all in on DFEN and JNUG

How fucked am I? Should I just cut my losses by selling them and then going all in on GE?

>>18200460
>>18200460
>GOD DAMN IT WHY DO I KEEP FALLING FOR THE ETF CRACK
because
>lol 3%
return for watching the numbers all day just isn't worth it

>>18200476
imagine not being 40% edv and 60% qqq
beats the market and has a better div than spy

Green today bros

>>18200487
>has a better div than spy
I don't think that's true...

>>18200450
"everybody"

If you talk about individuals: Well i made a survey on social media and it said about 90% of people with stock/etf investments had sold nothing.

If you talk about institutions: they rushed into bonds.

>>18200503
depends on the price of edv at the time I bought in the div was 3.5%

Buy the dip boys brazil is where the money is at on the rebound

>>18200511
that's what I assumed
good for you, not so good for anyone who buys in now...

>>18200510
so are you saying you don't believe that what we currently have is the result of millions of people who have 24/7 access to the graphs of previous events? i am convinced that all of the movement right now is from people trying to time those graphs and nothing whatsoever to do with what they think should or might happen which is why all of the movement is so illogical

Is RBI a restaurant business or a real estate business?

Somehow i managed to do a -70% AGAIN this week, fuck me bobos

>>18199331
Isn't it getting delisted 4/2?

>>18200521
kill yourself

>>18199353
He's a troll trying to bait anons into buying dumb shit

>>18200494
Milkies

uh oh bros the premarket opened on a drop

>>18200561
BULLISH - we end at least 1k + EoD

>it'll drop forever
>it's a dead cat bounce
You are here
>it's an ascending wedge
>my ta can't be wrong, reality is!

Thoughts on RIO?

>>18200579
THIS IS IT BULLBROS WE'RE GONNA BE RICH

>>18200561
good

>>18200562
So can we all agree corona is scam? The market has recognized this as a farce and the rest of society should follow suit. Why are we still pretending the virus is real?

Could this oil pump have waited one more day I don't get paid until tomorrow fuck

>>18200596
oil dropped to its lowest point in years, you have plenty of time.

>>18200595
Based Bill

>>18200561
Unironically bullish

>>18200584
>it can't fall
>that's a little drop
>time to buy stocks
>we're in a new bullmarket
you are here
>oh shit my savings and 401k
>fokkkk we'll never recover
>this is a false rally

>>18200595
Normies are retarded and believe the hospitals are all full without asking questions or actually seeing them.

>>18199895
I think that would be RuneScape or TF2s Marketplace

>>18200554
Dumb fucking niggers here buy GUSH and SNSS, so they obviously like being shilled to and deserve everything bad that happens to them.

why is WTI not pumping as much as Brent ?

>>18200627
You have to leave too

>I didn't buy more BX when it was under $40
>I didn't buy more BX when it was under $35

If I get another chance, I won't waste it

Was he right after all?

>>18200634
Make me.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-reports-deadliest-day-confirms-largest-jump-covid-19-cases-live-updates

tell me how bullish this is?

>>18200544
Why so hostile

>>18200645
Bullish but priced in

OMI and MRO are looking like they are going to be good day trades today

INVESTORS SEE THE "BAD NEWS" AND REALISE IT'S A GREAT TIME TO INVEST! Every piece of bad news pumps the market

>>18199773
Seems bullish to me, most of those job losses will be small business it means cheaper labor large publicly traded companies. Stonks can only go up.

>>18200682
Cheap labour? Perfect, no doubt they'll be hiring and expanding as much as possible to cope with the insane demand during worldwide lockdown

please tell me I didn't miss the bottom

>>18200696
You did but you can still make 30% with a long now

>>18200693
Exactly. Now that people are staying home all the time they have nothing else to do than consoom and order stuff online. Demand will skyrocket.

>>18200619
>>18200595
So the literal videos of NYC hospitals filled to capacity, the videos of tearful medical personnel talking about having to watch people die while their families are kept away (so as to keep the families from getting sick), that's all what exactly?
an elaborate ruse?

>>18200714
Bill Mitchell is possibly the most retarded boomer to ever live.

BULLCHADS WILL RULE THE DAY
>>18200714
PRICED IN
>>18199773
PRICED IN
>>18200451
PRICED IN
>>18200450
PRICED IN
>>18200440
PRICED IN

>>18200709
Accounting for a solid 10% of the market, great. The other 90%? Well uhhh, they'll go bankrupt and the market will go up because surely amazon will hire the laid off workers who are no longer able to order cheap Internet goods?

So no more stimulus or cheap money hits and corona virus death toll not even close to peaking yet

What's stopping a slow bleed until the curve flattens?

>>18200714
Why waste your time arguing?

>>18200730
irrationality

>>18200682
That's not how it works. Large companies are on top of the food chain. They eat and grow based on the cash flow and value chain built from small companies.

>>18200725
There is nothing anybody can do to convince me that he isn't 100% trolling or a foreign intelligence agent.

>>18200739
I can't go to slepe yet because my sheets are in the dryer

>why did you wait so long to wash them?
Unironically been sick with a mild flu the last few days (which is also why my sheets got so filthy, was too weak to shower)

>>18200749
Even finance.yahoo.com is saying this

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-stock-market-rally-triggers-major-sp-500-sell-signal-the-dreaded-death-cross-193931860.html

Although I fucking ABHOR """""technical"""" analysis, this is one of those times where they happened to get the right answer but by the wrong method

>>18200728
Did she murder someone?

>state unemployment benefits stack with inflationbucks
>many people will make more off of this than actually working
what retard thought this was a good idea

>>18200759
It was nice knowing you, anon. Corona has got you in her grips, rest easy knowing your death will move the SPX up 10 points.

Getting ready for today bros.

I love you guys
Seriously

Oh god, a judge handed Vascepa over to generics, AMRN is dead

>>18200772
Every time you just give people (americans, anyway) a bunch of dollarydoos they go out and buy a bunch of shit.

>>18200788
still alive SNSS Anon?

>>18200775
No no it's just a [coooof] just a mild [wheeze] I'M GOING TO BE FINE [argh my testicles]

>>18200083
>retards asking you for a source on quarterly rebalancing
does it smell like reddit in here to you too

I am financially ruined.

>>18200788
aaaaaahahahah this nigga an unemployed felon
aahahahahahaha

>>18200729
>>18200752
You're nitpicking. Sure, economy might shrink by 1 or 2 percent, but the big businesses that are listed on the stock markets will get bailed out with taxpayer money and will come out on top in the end.

>>18200769
>>18200780
We won't go under 260

>>18200797
Yeah. No reason I wouldn't be.
>>18200816
I'm not unemployed, I'm on call and on unpaid leave. I still have my job.

>>18200819
>1 or 2 percent

Stop panicking you dumb fucks

Should I go all in on MFA?

>>18200312
People think Exxon is set up to make it through this but I wouldn't invest in ETFs since they can be shut down anytime (more likely after plummet)

>>18200833
This. Keep a cool head and don't sell

>>18200833
Remember early jan days, when this shit was not even on the list?

Oil bros.. Why are we pumping?

>>18200440
NEEDS
MORE
LINES

>>18200833
>not listing abortion

>>18200833
Based. It's already peaking.

>>18200830
>UNPAID LEAVE
>NOT UNEMPLOYED
go count some polymorphonuclear leukocytes faggot

>Crash it

>>18200521
Almost bought yesterday but I stopped making wild bets.

I understand that I don't know shit about foreign economies

Noobie that started investing in these corona times.
Im euro and thought i should start investing in euro stock, believing id be cheaper and better for ny taxes but when i looked at the cost of purchasibg stock from germany and france i realized their transaction fees are higher, why?

>>18200846
You mean when China was still trying to downplay how bad it was and allowed thousands of infected people to travel all over the world?

Yeah I do

>>18200854
We’ll be out of our houses in 2 weeks

>>18200476
bonjour gentelmen

>>18200854
Oh... you sweet sweet summer child.

>>18200819
>Sure, economy might shrink by 1 or 2 percent

Lol wake the fuck up

>But the big businesses that are listed on the stock markets will get bailed out with taxpayer money and will come out on top in the end.

Yeah like what happened with GE ect.

Major indices are largely based on companies that have lots of liquidity and are not going to see a bailout. They will just lose business and value.

>>18200769
>TA is shit unless it aligns with my opinion

I hope you guys are shorting volatility.

>>18200861
>Was sind Quellensteuer

>>18200862
Yeah sure, it is "only" China's fault, as always...nobody knows where the real patient zero is / was from.

>>18200861
Posts like this are why I opened shorts yesterday before market close. If you're just one guy doing this to bait smg then congratulations I guess

>>18200833
Well it's already beating out road injuries, as no one's on the roads anymore

>>18200830
>I don’t get paid nor do I go anywhere or do anything but I’m totally still employed
lmao you got shitcanned

And the premarket has dropped below 260 with an hour and a half before opening

>>18200881
Was considering but it will go up tomorrow

>>18200861
Because in America you only get 30 days to refund your purchases, whereas in europe you get up to a year

>futures slowly falling

GET
JEROME
IN HERE
NOW!!

>>18200833
>diarrhea
Oh shit. Maybe the Great TP Panic was warranted!
>>18199263
Dividend bros - I downloaded the text chart of weekly 2019 dividends, but found out they pay differently in 2020. I'm writing a program to find the divy date and to invest my pocket change each week. Are these still the top teir divy companies?
' ABBV', ' ADP', ' AFL', ' AOS', ' APD', ' AVGO', ' BA', ' BAC', ' BX', ' CAT', ' CB', ' COST', ' CVX', ' DLR', ' DOV', ' ED', ' FRT', ' GD', ' GPC', ' HON', ' HRL', ' INTC', ' IP', ' IRM', ' JNJ', ' KMB', ' LEG', ' LIN', ' LMT', ' LYB', ' MCD', ' MDT', ' MMM', ' MO', ' MSFT', ' NEE', ' NKE', ' O', ' PBCT', ' PEP', ' PG', ' PH', ' PM', ' PSX', ' SNA', ' TAP', ' TXN', ' UTX', ' V', ' VZ', ' WM', ' XOM', 'AAPL', 'BLK', 'CSCO', 'DOC', 'IBM', 'IP', 'IRM', 'ITW', 'JPM', 'KO', 'LOW', 'PFE', 'PSA', 'SBUX', 'SPG', 'T']

>>18200907
Bullish. It's cooling off, once market opens this morning we're shooting up to at least 290 EOD

QUICK!!! WHAT STOCKS DO I GO ALL IN ON TODAY????

>>18200907
Premarket means nothing

Time for your portfolio flattening today, bulls.

>>18200931
This!

>>18200833
It already surpassed all those illnesses

>>18200614
>aliens used proton nukes on New Jersey, not New York. Bad aim? Bullish!

>>18200879
No, it's shit period. I'm not saying it's right because it uses TA; I'm saying it happens be right despite using TA
I didn't go into why I think it's right, everyone's already done that in the thread.
I mean the fact that New York alone, a state with a GDP that rivals most countries, has been completely shut down for this long is in itself a huge economic problem.
Then add in everything else

>>18200833
People are not panicing and you are a retard.

At what point it is "ok" to panic? With current pace corona will be the number 1 cause of death in 18 days. Is it ok to panic then?

>>18200931
0930 to 1600 EST means nothing either.

>>18200907
>>18200920
>>18200924
>>18200931
>>18200937
Starting to feel it mumu? That's fear

This is it boys! Just got my paycheck for being a good wagie and I'm putting it all on BORR. Soon I'll no longer need to wage slave!

>>18200772
Sasse amendment tried to correct this but democrats shot it down

>>18200927
AMRN

>>18200921
>Are these still the top teir divy companies?
1) No.
2) Dividends are a joke and are getting cut in the crisis right now left, right and center.

>>18200951
Just watch, it's going to V shape like it did twice yesterday. Retard bear, you missed the bottom

>>18200927
BORR

>>18200951
Kek

We'll be green till the end of the day.

Tomorrow probs red tho

>>18200970
You can't be that stupid anon, the deaths havent even really started yet and the financial numbers from Q1 arent out yet. I know you are very young and new at all this but keep that in mind moving forward.

>>18200772
I was actually talking to my wife last night about how I'd be making more on unenployment and I should just call sick so I can collect unemployment for a couple weeks.

>>18200950
>>18200951
See
>>18200970

>>18200971
I love when the market cap of pajeet shitcoins is bigger than publicly traded companies.

>>18200833
>twice as deadly as HIV
>contagious as fuck

Oh boy

>>18200981
It's over. You had months to short, and you chose the bottom. Take the loss and join the winning team

>>18200945
I might've mistaken, so, are you bearish or bullish? I've thought that you were bullish but this comments suggests that like me, you're bearish

>>18200854
That's what you said about US numbers on 21th.

Deaths will peak about 2 weeks after daily cases peak. Lol, cases are only starting in less developed countries and its nowhere near peak in the US either. US test capacity is falling behind every day as the case positivity rate is skyrocketing in NYS.

>>18200965
whats with -69% on amrn?

>>18200532
Restaurant group. I sold it yesterday at 40 and got a decent return off of it to buy other cheapies with (like KO). Kinda pissed I missed the bottom in KO, but I know mid 40s is alright for it. Wondering if I should have held QSR longer, but time will tell

>>18200990
It's only more deadly than HIV because billions have been spent trying to cure HIV

>>18201000
they lost the patent to their drug (which was just fucking fish oil anyway)

Futures are nosediving

>>18200991
Once again, I know you are young and all but you have to get out of doing options. You are going to lose the money you earned last summer. I did buy the bottom and have been DCA'ing since we broke 19k on the DOW.

>>18199279
you day trade based on TA. stop holding overnight you cuck

>>18201011
He’s trolling
It’s like all the shitcoiners who fud things they have bags of just for fun

>>18201009
>buy long
>it goes down
>buy short
IT'LL FUCKING PUMP
WATCH

>>18201000
Big OOOF

>>18200994
I'm Bearish, the article is bearish and warns that this is a bull trap

*flick*

And we're down into the 258 range
Don't you think this v shape is taking a little bit too long, mumu? Don't worry though, I'm sure you didn't fall into the most obvious bull trap of the decade

>>18201020
Gotcha, we need a containment section for the cryptokiddies and cancer like him.

>Report shows a max of only 82,000 coronavirus deaths
Didn't they say 200,000 before? This is actually bullish

>>18200881
>shorts VIX at top of the dead cat bounce
>shorts VIX after it has dropped 30 points

What else is part of your strategy, going long at the top and selling low?

>>18201011
Nice retarded ad hom, clearly you can't make your arguments speak for themselves

>>18201025
it'll pump just hold it
dude come on i just went long if it goes down i lose everything on my call options man come ON

When will bearfags learn that it's priced in?

Gather 'round little cubs!
Papa Bear wants to tell you a story. In the year 2020 there was an outbreak of a deadly version of the sniffles. Yes, yes the cold that causes your tiny sneezes and wheezes today was once so deadly that it caused the global financial system to violently rupture. Now, back then there were mixed views on the outcome of all that chaos. It was the Eve of April 1st, the DOW had already collapsed 35% and recovered about half that. Twas this day, my cubs, that fortune shined on all bears.

>>18201039
Report also shows that you are fucking retarded

>>18201049
Cool heads prevail. Just close the chart and come back EOD, we'll be green.

>>18201041
>30 points
>absolute measures
ayyy

>>18201028
oh, gotcha, same here then, sorry for the mistake

>>18201047
"priced in' meme, "you missed the bottom' meme etc are not arguments man. If you need help forming arguments and debating your opinion you could take some online classes while we are waiting for this all to blow over. Might be good to learn a new skill or something since we are all stuck at home.

>>18201026
oof indeed, I doubt any smg posters still had amrn bags to dump, even holy buyout poster sold at 21 ~

>>18201054
What's that grandfather, I can't hear you over the sound of your Tesla brand ventilator doing the work of your corona seared lungs.

>>18201074
How about "SPY is up from 219 to 262 over a prolonged period after bottoming"?

>>18201039
Lol what the fuck are USA epidemiologists so degerated or are they faking to calm down public

That report:
>Assumes FULL LOCKDOWN as in Spain Italy
>Failed already as cases blew through the confidence intervals on fourth day

The only reason they cite this shit is that it is the only report that can be used to justify the claims of peaking in mid april and opening in one month. Not gonna happen.

>>18201092
>262
Tad out of date, we're down to 258

>>18201025
Futures still tanking

>>18201025
Getting bogged is just part of being a retail investor

>>18201109
We pumping now Gaylord

>>18201092
"after bottoming" , you don't know that.
"prolonged period of time" - we are still in the midst of the crisis and the VIX is very high

Anon, here is a place you can take some classes in debate or log if you are interested.

>https://www.coursera.org/learn/logic-introduction

>>18201132
Keep deluding yourself, you don't know which way it will go either but the trend clearly shows UP

>>18201039
The dealths range from 1 single person to 8 billion depending on who you talk to.

>>18201123
the 1min chart is irrelevant you desperate stupid bulltard, check the 1hr or at least the 15min and then get back to us

Ares Management CEO reckons bottom isn't in saying the shit he's seeing isn't reflected in stock prices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS5PPq0O4iI

>>18201141
As I said before anon, I am DCA'ing in. I have about 35% of my cash in the market but I do think we will test the bottoms again.

Don't be a delusional bull and just scream about it going up and up forever. Okay, I am done trying to help you for now. If you need anything I will be around. Try that course man, it is just a start but there are some free finance classes and such you can take too out there.

>>18201156
End of april will drop because earnings

Bull run now tho

>>18201132
>>18201141
Go suck each other off somewhere else, faggots.

>>18201141
Based and redpilled.

>>18201141
you absolute melon. Im unsure whether you're working for the fed to try and keep the public opinion raft afloat or you're actually just completely retarded. The log graph of cases hasnt bottomed out yet and is on a direct trajectory up and the US hasn't even been put into full lockdown yet and you still think its going up.

What should I buy today?

>>18201170
>As I said before anon, I am DCA'ing in.
Great, but that's a very long way of saying I'm right and it's going to keep going up

Be more concise next time

>>18201174
shocking earnings are unironically priced in

make a new thread, retards

Did MGM cuck Blackstone?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mgm-resorts-divestiture-blackstone/mgm-to-sell-bellagio-circus-circus-resorts-for-about-5-billion-idUSKBN1WU2RE

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-01-14/mgm-grand-mandalay-bay-sale

Blackstone literally paid pre COVID19 prices for their Casinos

>>18201196
Not just earnings, the market already knows about the massive job losses and projections etc. That WAS the 30% drop.

>>18201200
>do this do that because I won't
>calls others retards
fucking hang yourself

>>18201193
>Anon is in majority cash and bearish

How are you right again? How old are you by chance? 17-18?

Is blackrock trying to get the fed to baghold LQD before this shit crashes?

>>18201225
Blackrock and FED having a good cooperation right now. :)

Is anyone here actually expecting the stock holders have average higher IQ than 100 if 73% people lose money on investments?

Most of these fucking chumps can't predict that the sun will rise tomorrow, does anyone expect to genuinely price anything in?

I now unemployed. Pls comfort me /smg/.

>>18201221
What on earth does my age have to do with any of it? Why are you so obsessed with the idea of me being a teenager? Are you a nonce, perchance?

I'm in my early-mid twenties

>>18201239
>73% people lose money on investments?
that can't be true

DOW BETTER FUCKING DUMP OR I'M NEVER TRADING ETFS AGAIN

HOW MANY FUCKING WEEKS CAN WE GET ONLY NEGATIVE NEWS AND STILL PUMP

>>18201244
Lmao okay that makes everything clear. Just take some classes and do some reading anon. You'll get there one day.

>>18201243
Misery loves company

>>18201243
Dont worry, you've already been priced in.

>>18201254
Literally every single broker site warns you that disproportionate amount of people lose money.

What they don't tell you is that the rest of that % takes the 73%'s money.

>>18201263
>>18201244
fuck off with this retarded social media shit, take it to facebook
>>18201254
it is

>>18201207
Not for every company
People will still shuffle money around when we see whose hit hardest

>tfw still holding 22 shares of AMRN

I don't even care anymore. I held for laughs and I'll keep holding till 0. I've never actually held a stock that went to 0 before. I want to see what happens.

>>18201284
Sure, but in a general sense the market already knew about the huge unemployment months ago

we are in an L shape market now. we trade sideways / slightly downward for the next quarter.

>>18201141
bulls are fucking delusional

>>18201254
A huge amount of completely nonsensical sell-offs are due to divorce as well.

>>18201239
An honest answer?

No, I think in times like these you have an extremely small amount of trading going on by very large institutions.
And I think that trading is being done by robots and I think there is a sort of echo chamber / feedback loop effect going on where the robots are signaling each other with their patterns of trades and, even though they aren't deliberately colluding (mostly), because they're all trying to solve the same general problem they've come up with some of the same answers.
That all combines together to make for both a market that makes irrational moves (moves that only make sense to the algos based on their mathematical approximations) or small moves that get mistaken for big moves and get amplified by the algos.

>>18201276
That forbidden fruit

Once you understand your corner of the market, you can just make a slaughter off /biz/raelis and Reddit fags

>>18201292
>-68.56%
Jesus christ anon are you OK

>>18201292
BASED

>>18201243
The underlying economy of human endeavors isn't going away; as long as you physically survive, there will be opportunity.

>>18201331
>>18201331
>>18201331
>>18201331

NEW NEW NEW

>>18201319
>Bought in at 17

I am far from ok

>>18201292
>>18201319
>>18201328
Wait that's just $286, literally fuck you

>>18201292
So you're out like $450ish or something?

>>18201372
about that.

>>18201207
Lol, US lack of testing and ignorance over the problem was obvious from the beginning. Why things started to get "priced in" only when the problem was on the level of national emergency?

International spread rate has been VERY predictable all the time.

You we're at the same point as sp500 was in January 2019. You honestly think economy prospects are as good as back then?

>>18199263
Should I buy in?

What happen with $VVUS