/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18181666
I didn't. I also bought the bottom because I eschewed r*ddit's hoaxposting here on /biz/.

>>18181666
Nope, bought the bottom

>>18181666
The economy was a debt bubble dumbfuck, CV was just a pin

>>18181666
Kys trumptard. reported.

>>18181732
>>18181751
r*ddit seethe

>>18181732
How does printing money reduce debt...

Go buy the dip then rightwingtard

>>18181751
Found the stick figure soiboy

everyone who bottom the bottom is going to hang themselves on this bull trap.

>>18181732
Watch my portfolio grow sucker

Reminder: if you have any political allegiances in this you are the lowest form of idiot that will never make it. Biz is about making money, not your red or blue tard club

>>18181666
When does the common cold cause hospitals to run out of venilators/icu room and force cities to start using hockey rinks as morgues because they can't process all the bodies in a hospital quick enough?

>muh uxpunontiol

>>18181666
based

>>18181801
bears will prep the b*lls

>>18181853
I have friends who got it. Didnt even know it. Just said they were tired.

Go back to rddit you npc idiot. How much is Sleepy Joe paying you?

>>18181853
Theatrics with props and lies.
But you won't understand any of it.

https://www.davidicke.com/category/49345/world-news

>>18181666

>>18182075
Thats great, now do the influenza virus you shill commie soiboy

>>18182009
something like 45 doctors/medical staff in Italy have died so far from it. I've never heard of that in regards to a "common cold" before. Also in the 5 days since op's pic was made the death toll has almost doubled

>>18182105
Italians are weak leftists, as is most of europe. Not surprised they have low tier genes

>>18182075
lol. This looks entirely normal

>>18182105
89-year old diabetic dr. Mario didn’t make it

OOOOOOOOH NOOOOOOO SHUT DOWN THE ECONOMERINOOOOS FOREVER

>>18182129
they have a higher life expectancy than wherever you're from.

absolute nothingburger

total psyop power grab

>>18181666
tfw somebody says something so fucking dumb I legitimately can't tell if they're trolling or not

>>18182086
What? It's right there you retard. Which by the way is a combined total of all influenza virus strains.

>>18181666
False. I bought the dip, though.

>>18182129
>>18182148
show me another time where 40+ medical professionals have died in the same country within this short of a time period from the same viral infection.

I'll wait

>>18182223
99% of every death in italy has had an underlying disease already, including does medical professionals. there are unhealthy doctors out there you turbonigger. They were all old as fuck too

>>18182105
They didn't die from Corona. Those were just old dudes in their 80s and 90s who used to work as doctors who coincidentally happened to die during the Corona outbreak.

There is no correlation or causation between these two things.

>>18182271
well it's good thing doctors are so easily replacable then, no need to worry about this little flu having any sort of long term consequence in health services. I mean do they even do anything important when there is no nothingburger meme virus happening?

>>18182305
kinda wierd how the amount of people who "didn't die from corona" happened to quadruple at the start of the corona outbreak

>>18182223
Assumed by ignorance. It's a long-term planned psyop to expand surveillance and impose poisonous mass inoculation.
But media in unison globally mocks that evident truth in the same way they suppressed preppers acting on their own data in the two decades following 911.
This is 911 2: millennials' scare.
Now go get a shot and a chip for our security.

>>18181666
if you think any sane world leader would close their borders for the common cold, either you're the smartest motherfucker out there, or you're the dumbest motherfucker, and i like betting my odds on the latter.

>>18182400
Well your posts make it seem like your a low-IQ unmedicated schizoid, but the fact that you keep posting images from Pulp Fiction and linking David Icke articles convinced me that you're actually correct and way smarter than every single health expert in the world.

>>18182271
>>18182305
Lots of the doctors/nurses/etc that died were in their 50s/60s, thats not really that old. Certainly not old enough to just die within a week from a "common cold"

>>18182406
>sane
->world leader

>>18182453
Copy pasted reply.
Take your meds ,sheep.

>>18182461
Italy are testing everybody that dies for Corona and if the test is positive they put Corona as cause of death.
They're inflating their numbers so they can make it look worse than it is so they can beg the EU for money again.
It's the typical shenanigans by lazy mediterranean PIGS.

>>18182305
>They didn't die from Corona. Those were just old dudes in their 80s and 90s who used to work as doctors who coincidentally happened to die during the Corona outbreak.
90, 57, what's the difference?
>"We weren't prepared for coronavirus," Marcello Natali, Lombardy chief of the Federation of General Practitioners, said before his death.
>He died Wednesday from COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, at the age of 57, health officials confirmed.
The head of the federation of GPs dies of the flu every year, you know. Totally normal.

>>18181666
oh who gives a fuck OP
everyone is scared you will have to deal with it

>>18182511
These are raw death numbers, no cause attributed:
>>18182388
Guess they're also forging hundreds of death certificates in 100k people city for a bailout?

>>18181666
Try again retard. That image is 4 days old and the global death toll has increased by another 50% since then. And that's AFTER multiple countries have introduced total lockdowns. Coronavirus deniers are the biggest pieces of shit on the planet.

>>18182511
ok, so 57 year old doctor Marcello Natali, got diagnosed with Covid-19, developed double pneumonia then died a few days later. This is "coincidentally" dying during the corona outbreak?

>get sick with virus
>develop severe pneumonia because of virus a few days later
>die

You think his official cause of death should be pneumonia lol? You're a fucking moron if you think its just a "coincidence" that he develops the same kind of of pneumonia as everyone else who's dying because of covid-19, and then dies from it.

In coming years we'll see:

1
Suppression of any alternative opinions on a scale only seen close to world war two.
2
Mandatory mass inoculation on unprecedented number and scope.
3
Mandatory chipping with surveillance and man-machine interface capabilities.
4
Abolition of all currencies but a newly introduced global electronic one.
5
Abolition of sex as a reproduction device.
6
OP still being called a faggot.

Well, that one isn't habbenning.

>>18182223
When I fucked your mommy

>>18182453
Look at this coping turbonigger

>>18182075
This chart is bullshit.

It claims there were over 250 flu deaths per week in NY state during weeks 3 and 4 of 2017-2018, but the CDC says there were only 20-30 flu deaths per week at that time in NY state.

See pic and here: https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

Something seriously fucky going on.

>>18181853
/biz/ has come full circle and is now in complete unanimous agreement with the normies concerning the virus.

>>18182801
yes his chart is total shit. typical glowng trying to spread fear.
here are numbers from cdc

>>18181666
One of these viruses is killing at an exponentially growing rate. The others are not.

>>18181666
Very good pic related, but shit comment. How is the (((Covid-19))) hoax leftist? It's elite Capitalists conspiring to artificially purge the economy from debt and overproduction. Artificially destroying the economic fabric so the economy can start again in 6 months. Regarding the "people", they don't give a shit. Whether they are sick or loose their job or business.

>>18181666
Also, retarded mutts cant into math. Imagine comparing a brand new virus to a preexisting generational virus that's been with us long. Also imagine just posting raw numbers, not including proportionality. Fuck off satan

>>18182847
imagine being so dumb you think: when we started to measure is when model started
CV has been spreading from Oct conservatively.

>>18182512
>>18182624
Here's a list of the doctors who died of covid in the past 48 hours in Italy by the way
>Rosario Vittorio Gentile, medico di famiglia di Cremona; Francesco Dall’Antonia, ex primario dipartimento Chirurgia di Vicenza; Abdulghani Taki Makki, odontoiatra di Fermo; un medico penitenziario di Foggia di cui non è stato reso noto il nome; Aurelio Maria Comelli, cardiologo di Bergamo; Michele Lauriola, medico di famiglia di Bergamo; Francesco De Alberti, ex presidente dell’Ordine dei medici di Lecco; Mario Luigi Salerno, fisiatra di Bari; Roberto Mario Lovotti, medico di famiglia di Milano; Domenico Bardelli, odontoiatra di Lodi; Giovanni Francesconi, medico di famiglia di Bescia.
>4 family doctors
>former head of surgery department in vicenza
>former head of the order of medics of lecco
>cardiologist
>physical therapist
>2 dentists, including a recent immigrant
>prison doctor

the former heads and family doctors were probably quite old, but the prison doctor and Abdulwhatever certainly wouldn't be.

>>18182887
Imagine being so dumb you believe China's official numbers. There are likely 250k dead in China

>>18182801
>>18182846
No idea why my pic was set to Oklahoma.lol

>>>/pol/250978691
>>>/pol/251020127

>>18181732
Wuhan shutting down was the pin. The virus itself is irrelevant.

>>18182461
99% HAS AN UNDERLYING DISEASE ALREADY WHAT DONT YOU FUCKING GET ABOUT THAT? maybe if they weren't such shit medical professionals they would have taken better care of their own health. instead they pay the toll, serves tehm right

>>18181853
Noooo not the hockey rinkerinos!

>>18181828
yeah because all you have in it are inverse ETFs

>>18182847
Logistic not exponential.

>>18182801
Those tables say "oklahoma", which is the state selected on the map. I'm not American but I'm pretty sure that's not in fucking NY.

Also your claim is that the pic author actually inflated flu deaths and it's much less deadly than that? That would make Covid-19 much more deadly by comparison then?

>>18182801
It's not like CDC ever lies or anything.
How much easier to believe in witchcraft, communists and global warming instead of realising the obvious fact one is lies to and lies as a means to dim pain and cope by hope of dim pleasures.
Knowledge isn't power.
Power is power.
Knowledge is pain.
We're all sublimely enslaved from time immemorial.
And it's getting worse before it'll get worse still.
Enjoy your consummate retarded media choreographed psyop.
See you in the death camps when weaponized pox culls the sheep for real.
This scare is materially a mere drill.

>>18182914
Its funny how transparent your emotional hatred for doctors shines through this post. You want to be right and offer your medical opinions, but professionals who spent their entire lives studying diseases clearly are in open disagreement with you.

>>18182903
Hey, why do you think the CDC put influenza and pneumonia deaths in the same table, and is calculating the percentage with both categories added? Because people with the flu die of pneumonia.
Adding both we see somewhere between 200-300 people died of "flu" and "pneumonia" (influenza-related deaths, if you will) in NY in those weeks.

>>18182987
See >>18182903

>>18183027
> why do you think the CDC put influenza and pneumonia deaths in the same table, and is calculating the percentage with both categories added?
... because they're idiots?
Seriously no idea.

>common cold
Durr

>>18182203
These people are literal fucking NPCs. When confronted with any evidence of the covid mortality rate they're programmed to respondo "now do the flu". It's just a reflex at that point. The information doesn't even reach their brain.

>the finance board doesn't understand exponential growth

>>18183015
Which one of the niggers sipping margaritas in this vid is (you)? Imagine thinking your normie opinion is in anyway against the grain of government desires.

https://youtu.be/Gmm2se1HXOM

>>18183077
>exponential growth
But it's already disappearing in east Asia, and it peaked in several areas in Europe, including Italy.

>>18181666
That's more than 9/11

>>18183049
You might wanna look up what the flu actually is.

>>18183025
what dont you understand about the statistics? they either had diabetes, heart problems or something else. I'm perfectly healthy myself, and im alive. They're dead. thanks to their shitty health
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI

>>18183072
How do you know the mortality rate? The true number of cases is likely much higher than the number of confirmed cases. If this is true then the mortality rate is probably much lower than you think.

>>18183109
Even during peak flu season, the flu only accounts for half of VIRAL pneumonias.
Lumping pneumonia deaths under the flu is idiotic. And that's obviously not what's going on.

>>18181666
Chinese citizens said it's actually around 200k deaths government just lied about the numbers

>>18181666
The cost of life is why we shut down as much as we do. Burn in Hell for your transgressions. You'll be either is the forth circle for greed or maybe 9th for treachery against your community.

>>18181666
>he doesn't want the debt bubble to pop
>he doesn't want to exploit a crisis to improve the financial system and reduce dependence on foreign labor
>he doesn't want to deflate all speculative bubbles and start purchasing at a sane price
>he doesn't understand that corrections are healthy
There are no limits to how much I hate MIGA boomers

>>18183077
It's not exponential. It follows a logistic curve like every other virus.

>>18183195
Which Chinese citizens and how do they know?

>>18183118
The stats are slapping you in the face and you're still remaining ignorant to the issue. Dont pretend you're on the side using statistics. You're young but you're selfish because you're going to indirectly infect someone's elder, or someone in your family will get it, and all of a sudden corona will be the most important issue in the world while you sweat balls

>>18183199
I don't want mass unemployment and high inflation of consumer goods at the same time.

>>18183156
My bad, it's not actually the mortality RATE but the numbers of death you're in denial about.

>>18183160
the issue is that not all people who die of pneumonia get tested for the flu. by checking the total pneumonia death numbers, you get a more accurate view of the spike in flu season. That's the reasoning behind lumping them together, I presume.
(also having the flu worsens pneumonia from other infections, including bacterial, increasing the death rate, so it's quite related)

>>18183243
No one knows the total number of cases. Most people aren't getting tested.

>>18183118
>they either had diabetes, heart problems or something else
or a mysterious underlying condition that coincidentally gave them double pneumonia in march 2020

>>18183243
Flu has years of data while COVID-19 has only months, this chart is flawed.

>>18183224
Wuhan because they had truckloads of bodies but that may just death by execution since this is all for population control

>>18183276
About 30 million people have diabetes in the US, by the way. probably a hundred millions are current or former smokers. And god knows how many have "heart problems" of some sort, probably half the population.

>>18183243
>1-3.4%
Even if this was accurate (which it's not) why would people worry about this when cancer exists? I'll risk a 3.4% chance of dying to keep my liberty.

Virus makes people sterile as well human population is gonna plummet

>>18181853
>hockey rinks as morgues
Literally holocoaster tier

>>18183264
That's worse. Low fatality rate and a high incubation phase make a virus incredibly more infective.

Something like Ebola was much easier to control for example due to about 50% of patients just dying. A contagion being lethal actually reduces its overall infectability

>>18183330
Chinks murder patients who can't pay their medical bills.

>>18183362
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-morgue-idUSKBN21A35I

>>18183381
How is it worse if I won't di

>>18183254
If they're lumping the flu together with pneumonia in general, who knows what else they're doing.
Especially considering the corona figures and flu figures on that chart come from two different sources.

>>18183352
>why worry about introducing x that threatens you when y already threatens you

kill yourself

>>18183381
Infectability doesn't matter if it doesn't kill you.

>>18183399
I mean I asked you before but what's your claim here, that the chart grossly overestimated deaths from the regular flu?

>>18183408
I'd rather risk 3.4% chance of dying than live in a socialist shit hole.

>>18183398
Because if you die you wont interact and infect as many people as if you would walk around in an incubation phase. That's what happened in Africa with Ebola, niggers started bleeding from their eyes and dropping dead before it could break out

Most flu deaths aren't tested.

A 90 year old coming in for kidney failure who then develops viral pneumonia is a 'flu death'.

You're about 20x-100x more likely to be hospitalized for COVID19 than flu.

>>18182846
I believe there are the national numbers by the way.

>>18183435
>Because if you die you wont interact and infect as many people as if you would walk around in an incubation phase.
So what? I didn't die.

>>18183397
>reuters
Post a non-mainstream media source please, like one from people who wouldn't directly benefit from the fearmongering.

>>18183462
To avoid a new virus permanently being part of humanity. Wouldn't you rather kill this while we have a chance? I'd rather keep it cold/flu season rather than cold/flu/corona season

>>18183420
>that the chart grossly overestimated deaths from the regular flu?
Apparently yes.

According to the actual figures from NY, corona is killing 20-50x more people in total than the regular flu.
(500 kills per week for corona, 10-30 for regular flu).

Which is just hilariously impossible.
For reference, the same situation in Italy would have caused at the very least 150,000 deaths by now.
(15k annual deaths x 10 to be very conservative)

>americans are now doubting that the virus even exists
Is this bullish for the rest of the world?

>>18183436
How do you explain that the Netherlands are not confined, and are doing just fine?

>>18183483
>I don't trust a reputable news agency when they report that Madrid is using ice ranks as a morgue, I wanna hear it from some blogger

But sure, here's your non-MSM article, or is Breitbart too mainstream?
https://www.breitbart.com/news/bodies-on-ice-rink-as-spain-sees-record-infections-deaths/

>>18183511
>Which is just hilariously impossible.

>>18183545
>trusting news agencies over independent media
Anon, I...

>>18183586
I guess you've got nothing further to say about Spain using ice rinks as morgues, then.

>>18183436
Lying fake news cunt, back to plebbit

All the smart money already sold their stock months ago. The market is currently kept alive by braindead retards, that take every word of the orange baboon as god's word, and will panic sell when they realize they are running out of money to pay their numerous mortgages in a few days.

>>18183488
>To avoid a new virus permanently being part of humanity. Wouldn't you rather kill this while we have a chance?
Top retard. I don't have to explain. You are a paid shill by the way.

>>18183561
Again: the same situation in Italy would have caused at the very least 150,000 deaths by now.
(15k annual deaths x 10 to be very conservative)

>>18183661
>hehehe let him take the bait, he doesn't know about my herd immunity retarded theory that was already laughed off by the scientific community

>>18183661
>my gov is telling me not to stress or worry
>but if you go against the advice of my gov, you're a shill

>>18183667
All parts of Italy aren't equally infected.
Also I think you misunderstand the graph I posted, those aren't Bergamo's weekly deaths from infectious diseases. Those are Bergamo's weekly deaths full stop. For comparison you should take Italy's annual deaths from all causes (650k or so IIRC) and divide them by 52. Then multiply them by 2 or 3, that should be Italy's weekly deaths for late march/early april as the epidemic peaks.

>>18183761
>All parts of Italy aren't equally infected.
All parts of Italy aren't equally infected by the flu either.

>Also I think you misunderstand the graph I posted, those aren't Bergamo's weekly deaths from infectious diseases. Those are Bergamo's weekly deaths full stop.
I know.

>For comparison you should take Italy's annual deaths from all causes
No need to go that far.
Just look at Italy's deaths from the flu, which during the past decades has ranged from 7k to 25k per season.

>>18183657
Even just from a raw financial standpoint, the economy is fucked. This level of selloff will take an eternity to correct, and probably is nowhere close to over. covid is just a catalyst.

>>18183483
>>18183586
absolute retard

>>18183797
>No need to go that far.
No, I'm making a prediction. Italy will have 2x the usual number of deaths for the months of march and april regardless of cause, if not more. It'll make any comparisons to the flu or other causes of deaths obsolete.
If it's less than 2x their usual mortality I'll admit I was wrong. I really hope I'm wrong and what we're seeing everywhere is a statistical artifact. But I don't think I'll be proven wrong.

>>18183910
>It'll make any comparisons to the flu or other causes of deaths obsolete.
Why?
Because NY's numbers don't add up?

>>18183832
>hurr market was bubble
>durr unprecedented global shutdown was just a catalyst

It's amazing how you paid shills have been repeating this in every single fucking thread for the past weeks.

>>18183381
>uh excuse me, have you ever heard of 'exponential growth'???
>it means number go up

lmao. 4channers are such cringey faggots. It's no surprise this was the epicenter of the *tips fedora* "God isn't real, m'lady" movement back in the 2000's

>heh. You still think it's a hoax?
>excuse me, do you even understand what 'exponential growth' means?
>oh you still believe the orange buffoon in the white house? don't you know that COVID-19 has already killed 6 million people in New York?
>look at these data-points I found on CNN. You need to sell your stocks and start panicking immediately or everyone you live will die.
>me? heh. I don't listen to Domalrd Dermpf or the Government. You think this is just a stronger flu with no vaccine? Well you've got another thing coming, buddy. You're all going to die except for me, because reasons