/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18152125
They they are a disgusting company that steals from the public domain and gets rich off it then makes copyright 100+ years to stop people from using their IP.

the answer is JEWS

>>18152125
I want to short Disney because I'd like to think no one cares about their dim effortless products anymore but I reckon people have been thinking for a while. Fuck normies

>When will a new Teddy Roosevelt come along and break up the trusts and conglomerates?
That's not what's going to happen. What's going to happen is that one conglomerate is going to eventually control all of the "intellectual property" until humanity decides to abolish intellectual property and usher in a new era.

Ok boomer

it'll be interesting to see where disney goes in the upcoming years, as there were a whole bunch of problems surfacing right before the virus hit

>there is no one in the Disney family atm currently involved with the corporation
>last person was Roy E. Disney, who left in 2005
>CEO Bob Iger didn't have any creative vision, just purchased stuff that he thought could make money
>Marvel made a lot of money, but the future is uncertain as Endgame has finished and there all of the major players/characters have finished their runs/contracts
>Star Wars did not generate the revenue it should have(due to the whole franchise after acquisition being a clusterfuck)
>Remakes are making money, but excitement and attitude are changing
>Remakes also show that the corporation is lazy and would rather recycle old stories/content and have people consume it rather than try to create new IPs.
>Next CEO Bob Chapek has a history of skimping and cutting costs on theme park attractions
>The creation of Disney+ may fall short due to the beginning of the streaming wars
>underlying issues with woke culture
>hollywood being creatively bankrupt

I think I covered all the issues but I may have missed a few. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney loses some of it's popularity in the coming decade

tldr disney needs to cultivate soul

>>18152125
Disney did not buy Lucasfilm, Marvel, Fox, with money they have saved over the years.. they borrowed the money, they currently (before 2020) had 40 billion $ in debt.

The government can bail out Boeing, the Cruise industry, Airlines, they can bail all sort of companies out that are reasonably affected by the corona virus. Much harder to bailout a company like Disney or Facebook, which shouldn't be in any trouble because of corona, if they have trouble it would be themselves that are responsible.

>>18153175
>>18152125
oh forgot
>is Disney too powerful?
yes, but if they don't have a good leader to navigate the issues lying ahead, and continue to exploit the content they have, they could collapse under how massive they are

>>18152125
I do genuinely hate Disney, and it is my wish one day that I will help to bring it down, one way or another. Companies as big and despicable as Disney don't get that way through honest means.

>>18152125
Disney is the most degenerate media company on this planet right now. Once they collapse we will celebrate the end of a creepy pedo cult.

>>18153321
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/051116/disney-stock-capital-structure-analysis-dis.asp
correction, as of Oct. 2019. Disney had 53 Billion in long term debt.
their current market capitalization is 174 billion..

>>18152125
I suggest you don't worry as much. An entertainment pseudo-monopoly is nothing to worry about. Entertainment is not a necessary good and unlike oil that can just be stumbled upon even by retards, crafting high-quality entertainment needs actual talent. And with the autistic nepotism that comes with these empires, Disney will eventually just collapse on itself by giving big franchises to absolute retards.

>>18152227
I don't bloody think so.

>>18152170
What's more disgusting is that the copywrite law is unconstitutional. The constitution specifically states that Congress is allowed to protect authors and their ideas. A company can't be an author because it's not a living thing and when the actual author dies, he can no longer be subject to territorial rights.

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>>18153378
To be honest I think Comcast (owners of NBCUniversal, i.e. NBC and Universal Pictures) and AT&T (owners of WarnerMedia, i.e. Warner Bros., CNN, HBO, etc.) are far too big as well.

Those three in particular - Disney, Comcast, AT&T - are far too big.

And the biggest question, as I said in the OP, is what benefit do companies of this size give to consumers? Lower prices? Fucking doubt it - when companies get this powerful, they RAISE prices, because they know they're the only people you can get a decent service from.

I think I saw an interview with Bill Gates once where he said he preferred taxes to pitchforks - that is, he thought more taxes on the wealthy were a good idea, or else rising wealth inequality would cause the rest of society to grab pitchforks. I can't find that quote, but here's a similar quote, from another rich guy:
>In fact, there is no example in human history where wealth accumulated like this and the pitchforks didn’t eventually come out.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014

If you think I'm just ranting because other people are richer than me, instead of what I'm actually doing, which is highlighting a problem which is OBJECTIVELY growing, then see pic related, which is from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

There are also tons of other graphs showing how wealth inequality in western countries has been rising over the last few decades, and continues to rise today. This is a trend which is unsustainable. There will be a straw that breaks the camel's back.

>>18154455
> Disney is a an entertainment landlord.

>>18152125
They're not too powerful, but they're too corrupt, arrogant and bloated. The FOX acquisition was one of the most moronic and pointless ventures they ever dared to take and now its backfiring on them hard.

Now that any of it matters now. The parks are their primary source of profits. Without them, they're fucked.
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/489904-disneyland-and-disney-world-closed-until-further-notice

>>18153175
>wouldn't be surprised if Disney loses some of it's popularity in the coming decade
they are $50b+ in debt, with near 0 income sources for the forseeable. 'Some popularity' be the very least of what these boys going to be losing

>>18153321
>if they have trouble it would be themselves that are responsible.
The virus has cucked them since the parks are where the majority of their money comes from.

Disney Crypto when?

>>18152125
>Movie/tv productions halted for the foreseeable future
>Parks closed
>China shuts down all movie theaters until 2021

They are fucked, Apple is gonna buy them very soon.

>>18152125
>Be Tencent Conglomerate
>Buy Disney
What was that OP?

>>18154235
Intellectual property has become a retarding force on the cultural evolution of mankind. Thus it will be destroyed.

>>18155169
They're better off not wasting money on a shitty ameriburger company full of rats.

>>18155156
>Apple
they'll need to outpoker Him first

Bumping because fuck Disney

>>18152125
Disney is good now after the leadership hand over ! Anti sematic jokes are even in the simpsons now , this is exactly what walt wanted.

>>18153175
chapek is post ww2 anglicization of the czech Čapek , their where more then a few high ranking nazi officers with that surname. really gets ya noggin joggin

>>18152125
>Buys Lucasfilm so they own Star Wars
Completely alienate the fanbase, ruin it so hard that even the old collectable merchandise market starts plummeting.

>Buys Marvel so they own the MCU
Turn it into such a pathetic shitfest, that when a decent capeshit movie is made by DC is get 2 oscars and every other movie award there is.

>Buys 20th Century Fox so they own The Simpsons,
Simpsons viewers plummet by 40%.

Parks are closed, movies closed, ships docked, profits dwindling, palms sweaty. No wonder Disney CEO resigned in January, he knew it will be bankrupt by summer.

They are 50+ billion in debt and currently shut down. They are just another massively overleveraged company using debt to buy back their own stock. They will eventually fail on a long enough timeline.