/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18130925
What could she have possibly done different in his situation?

>>18130925
Holy fuck this was deep

>>18130964

Not actively gutted the CDC pandemic response guys and actually listened to their advice instead of going "just a flu guys"

>>18130964
Have you heard Hildawgs test results came back?

She’s still negative for ‘Presidency’

>>18130991
But it literally is just a flu.

>>18130992
Damn dawg

>>18130992
you're such a faggot dude.

Even Pelosi just said we are testing more than any other country. No shit we will have more confirmed cases. Maybe we should just bury our heads in the sand or cook the books like the chinks

>Oh gee I bet you're all sorry you didn't vote for me now! Now enjoy your pestilence and death.

Th-thanks, Hillary.

>>18130964
She would have left travel from China open.

>>18130925
lmao americans eating each other alive with their sportspall tier team vindictiveness

Respek

>>18130925
LOCK. HER. UP.

>>18131035
>Even Pelosi just said we are testing more than any other country
we're not though, this is a complete lie

>>18131075
source?

>>18130925
>more cases than Italy, China, Spain
>a fraction of their deaths

B A S E D
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>>18131072
that's a man.

>>18131082
>>18131075
>>18131035
>>18131082
The positive claim's the one that needs a source but here you go: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing-source-data

The USA has done around 140k total with a population of 327 million..

South Korea alone has done 360k with a population of 56 million.

In total test numbers the USA is near the middle of the road and per capita it's one of the worst.

>>18131267
i guess she's a liar, like most dems

>>18131003
it's literally SARS

>>18131072
that's a wo(man)

>>18130925
Goddamn this bitch

>>18130964
have her media stooges downplay the situation

>>18131577
Its actually called SARS-Cov-2 but its not the exact same virus but a different strain thats far more infectious than SARS-Cov-1 from 2003.

>>18130991
>gutted cdc
LITERALLY fake news
>listened to advice
LITERALLY what Trump did

>>18131699
>far more infectious than SARS-Cov-1 from 2003.
And far less lethal.

>>18131028
ABSOLUTE SEEEEEEEEEEEEETHE

>>18130925
>Murica is now the epic-centre
tbf, given the choice between Hilary or a global pandemic, its a tough call

>>18131729
Its increased infectiousness can make up for the body count being less lethal easily.

>>18130964
Literally nothing. That's the joke.
The difference is Trump promised to do the opposite of what he does.

>>18130991
>Not actively gutted the CDC pandemic response guys
Even the liberal press factcheckers said this was fake. CDC has higher budget now than under Obama

>>18130991

>the pandemic response that did nothing at all during the swine flu era

>>18131770
Until you compare to the regular flu, which infects and kills many more.

>>18130925
Based on what?

>>18130992

>>18130991
>Actively
>Actively
>Actively
>Actively>
>Actively>Actively
>Actively>Actively
>Actively>Actively
>Actively>Actively
>Actively

god so fucking sick of this word, you can always tell the most midwit normies when say this.

>>18132170
Seething

>>18131267
>>18131377
>https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing-source-data

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing

Your data is wayy out of date. USA has now tested more than any other nation, and done so in a shorter time span. Admittedly, this should have began much earlier.

IT'S *COOF* JUSS A *COOF* FLU

>>18132170
>Heh, your argument is now invalid because you used the same word more than once, retard

>test more than anyone else
>have more cases than anyone else
Whoah..

>>18132476
The hospitalization and fatality figures are useless due to incredibly low testing levels.

And the flu also has an incubation time that can last weeks.

>>18130925
>I'M JUST CHILLIN
>ON JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S ISLAND

Don't get me wrong Trump is handling the corona crisis like it's an internet argument because thats all he knows and has been doing for the last 12 years, but she's in the same boat as him.

>>18132476
R_0 is likely higher than that. BUT:

Hospitalization rate is probably closer to 1-5%
IFR is closer to 0.1 - 1%. This is what new data is showing given lack of testing.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

>>18132507
>552,000 tests

That's barely more than what South korea did

>>18130925
>hundreds of thousands of Americans have a life-threatening illness
>LMAO DRUMPF BTFO

>>18130992
Cringe

>>18130964
All jokes aside it is kind of stupid to believe that Hillary wouldnt have handled this better.
Trump is a chaotic 11 year old.
We heard this shit coming from early january.
He is now actively fucking shit up and causing confusion.

What the fuck did you morons expect

>>18131978

>>18132566
600K now, done faster than any other nation. SK did 360K. Granted, SK did a better job, and Trump is a retard. But Redditors and Europeans are delusional about the USA's ability to defend itself against a pandemic.

Benefits for US:
>Low population density
>Highest ICU per capita in the developed world
>Can mobilize production of equipment faster than any country but China
>Testing more than anyone else
>Best healthcare infrastructure
>Treatments are further along than when other countries were infected
>younger population
Negatives for US:
>Obese amerifats
>low rates of healthcare coverage
>retard in chief

>>18130925
>believes Chinese numbers

>>18132686
lmao, 25 THOUSAND people died in Italy from the regular flu in 2014.

>>18131014
That's a rare Rockwell.

>>18130991
I paid taxes and didnt get anything in return... figures
They even want to steal the supplies I acquired when I heard this might be serious

>there's definitely no leftist astroturfing of Biz guys, the landlord topics are just genuine Biz anonymous enthusiasts waking up

>>18130925
Spiteful cunt

>>18132875
The CNN-tier Trump bashing is so blatant too.

>>18132725
do you have any statistics to back that up? there are generally 250-500k deaths a year from the flu, you are saying 5-10% of the deaths took place in a western country with something like 0.8% of the worlds population?

>>18132339
> 0.1650% of pop tested in usa
> 0.4299% of pop tested in canada
> infected in canada : 0.01998% of total pop
> infected in usa : 0.02998% of total pop
> generally, canada implemented very strict measures way before the US (1+ week earlier)

do the math & let it sink in for a while

>>18132921
>do you have any statistics to back that up?
Sure, if you're too lazy to google:
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(19)30328-5/fulltext

24,981 is the "25 thousand" I was talking about.
(I got the year wrong, it was the 2016-2017 flu season, not the 2014 one)

>>18130964
Campaign to hug infected chinese to combat racism

>>18130991
if we gave the CDC more money what the fuck would they have done differently? they made good recommendations already the administration just didn't follow them. they'd make the same recommendations

>>18130925
She would have appointed too many women to handle the crisis, plus too many days and children-less women to court positions.

>>18132907
every single democrats are bashing him too.

>>18132923
ok i'll spoonfeed more
> canada tested 2.7x more than USA but got only the 2/3rd of infected rate vs USA
imagine how off the US infection numbers are

>>18131028
>>18132599
Lmao it's not even just commies flooding this board. It's eternally asshurt neoliberals who wanted muh first woman president

>>18132987
I googled your data and it was wrong, so thank you for providing something that's less wrong. I'd suggest looking into H1N1 and why 2016 was one of the worst flu years ever, all the time reminding yourself that SARS-CoV-2 is more deadly and more infectious than H1N1.

>>18130925
Based on what?

>>18133139
>I googled your data and it was wrong
You meant "I was wrong", right?

The flu regularly claims tens of thousands of lives in Italy alone. It was 20k in 14/15 for instance.

>>18130925
Does anyone actually think a senile retard like Biden would be able to handle this crisis any better than Trump? Nigga can't even speak coherently. Democrats are fucking retarded how could they let someone like Biden secure the nomination?

>>18133112
Even worse - its redditors. I wager we see the truth come out, and its like ‘r/chapo’ was doing a raid or something. Been a real distinct and inorganic uptick on ‘kill your landlord’ posting as well. Same as with the ‘YANGGANG’ bullshit a while back,

>>18133056
Imagine how much more these people would have bitched if they had gotten what they pretend now to have wanted in order to bitch in the first place.

>>18133225
(because they don't want him to actually win)
(Trump is more profitable than Biden, your base donates more money when they're fired up about "the other guys")

>>18133182
With millions of cases and bad flu strains it can kill tens of thousands, yes. In 2014 there were much less than 10k deaths, which is why you were wrong kek. Corona is set to outpace even the worst H1N1 death counts for this century at about a quarter million cases. There is literally no evidence to support your claim other than "other less deadly flu strains can kill an elderly Italian too!"

>>18133283
Yeah I figured it was something like this. It's got to be manufactured outrage at Trump that normies take at face value. There is no other rational explanation

>>18133236

It's pretty obvious astroturfing and when you confront any of them they're generally kind of shocked-reddit groupthink doesn't allow dissent and they don't really know how to react to you without appealing to authority ban you.

>>18132691
The best way to get through this would be to let everyone work who can without creating significant threat vectors, and everyone in public needs to be masked up Asian style, which is shown to reduce for example SARS infection by 70%.

We aren't going to be able to get everyone wearing masks, even if we had the supply which I don't believe we do - I could be wrong on that. It is true, our Economy won't survive a prolonged slow down, it isn't just workers who are over leveraged with debt and living check to check, many of their employers, landlords, and obviously the giant corporates themselves can't last weeks to months without being financially bodied.

We need cheap tests that amazon could distribute, but honestly, how can we trust anyone in our government when they earmark 250bil out of 6tr to actually help real Americans? This looks like a giant power grab, and everyone should be all eyes on Billy Gates calling us for a 6-10 week quarantine, he also wants to fucking digitally ID us with vaccines(ID2020). Just look at the bill and melinda gates Corona virus summit, from six months ago! Something is seriously fucked here.

>>18133056
I'm no fan of Trump, but this cunts stretching it a bit, for sure. It was like Carnival in Cologne, etc - don't see them blaming Merkel. Everyone knew large public gatherings was a problem/risk, but greed/scared of scaring the tourists won the day.

>>18130925
>bitter old rich cunt making demented schadenfreude tweets while poor people suffer

this is the life Establishment Democrats live. They just. Keep. Losing.

>>18133283
mfw Trump is being paid by the Democrats to cause outrage

>>18133311
>>18132686
>"you were wrong"
Says the faggot posting flu death statistics from January and claiming they're for the entire flu season.
https://www.thelocal.it/20200123/flu-outbreak-in-italy-half-a-million-people-struck-down-in-a-week

Italy routinely has tens of thousands of deaths from regular flu in one flu season.
Deal with it.

>>18130925
This is fucking hilarious to me
I don't think anyone hates anyone else on Earth more than this bitch hates Trump
I don't think anyone is living more rent-free than Trump is inside her head, lmao

>>18130964
Are you serious?
This corona shit exposed trumpfag coping more than anything else before if that was even possible
Absolutely pathetic, anybody who actually votes for this fat fuck failure should be culled

>>18130925
COUGHING FITS
PANTS OF SHITS

>>18130925
she cut the face off of a little child. Fuck that witch.

>>18133459
>Italy routinely has tens of thousands of deaths from regular flu in one flu season.
okay, since math is obviously not your strongpoint, lets take the numbers from 2016 (the majority of which was H1N1, remember)
2,500,000 cases @ 25,000 deaths =
1% death rate
86,498 cases @ 9,134 deaths =
10.5% death rate
how exactly do you think these numbers support your point?

>>18130925
>make travel ban to/from Iran
>Obama judge blocks it
>NYC gets coronavirus from Iranians
>Trump's fault
I hate my retard "friends" on facebook pushing the lies of the commie news

>>18130925
What a clever old cunt. I’m surprised she’s rubbing her soggy clit on the carpet all day instead of running the greatest country in the world.