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All this kill your landlord shit is an organized campaign to lure newfags on /biz/ to take on their bullshit ideals that everything should be free and that landlords are somehow evil for managing properties these freeloading failures can't afford to pay for. Don't fall for this shit and eviscerate this trash on sight. We are capitalists here and even anons that aren't seem to believe in the concept of private property. This shit must end. It's getting cold in here.

>> No.18130257

No, there's false flagging by /pol/ as commies because you think you're super double clever and that you're going to convince us shekel counters here to join your stupid political movement.

>> No.18130299

>>18130257
you faggots just showed up last week. This is /biz/ retard. You don't understand it. go the fuck back.

>> No.18130318

>>18130213
Every economic school of thought hates landlords as they are the definition of rent-seekers. You will not be able to push this narrative that it's communists, dumbass faggot moron.

>> No.18130347

>>18130213
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
LANDLORD CLEAN MY SHIT NOW

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>>18130299
>

>> No.18130385

>>18130257
>No, there's false flagging by /pol/ as commies
and I supposed the landlord spam on /pol/ is ALSO a false flag by /pol/ posing as commies right?

>> No.18130399

housing is a human right, dumbass

what's the point of a society if they don't provide for you the basic necessities? if society doesn't provide that, fuck society! there is more than enough to go around. rich people just hoard it all

>> No.18130418

>>18130318
You are so wring I~ don't even know where to begin. I hope they open high schools up agin soon. Misappropriation of Ancap terminology is a nice touch but it's not going to help your cause. You fuckers are glowing.

>> No.18130426

>>18130213
That's right. Get scared you landlord bitch. When they shut your lights off you can beg for my money

>> No.18130425

>>18130318
>every economic school of thought hates when people profit by charging for access to services
proof?

>> No.18130446

>>18130385
I wonder how many of these faggots there are. It's obvious as fuck.

>> No.18130472

>>18130399
>housing is a human right, dumbass

Will you fucking morons stop using that phrase improperly?

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>>18130213

>> No.18130479

>>18130347
I'll gladly clean it up as soon as the police or my private security firm walks you off my property at gunpoint.

>> No.18130481

>>18130418
No, rent-seeking is antithetical to capitalism as landlords attempt to extract value without creating any. That is not how capitalism operates, and communists obviously don't like it as private property doesn't exist in their ideology.
YOU are the ignorant fucking moron who doesn't know shit about economic theory if you deny this.

>> No.18130522

>>18130213
Peak delusion OP. Forget the Corona, you need your mental health check. You might unironically turn into a tranny any minute now.

>> No.18130567

>>18130213

No masses people are just waking up to the undeniable contradictions of this system they are seeing that it quite literally needs blood to keep running

>> No.18130568

>>18130481
>Doesn't understand Liberty and propery
You are just lying now.. loudly, but unsuccessfully. Why don't you just go sleep on a bus bench and yell at birds like the rest of your homeless unproductive comrades.

>> No.18130571

>>18130213

you sound like some sort of pissed off landlord, or just a bootlicker

>> No.18130577

>>18130318
here on /biz/ we just care about making money. so investing in rental properties is a legit way to get passive income for us. please go back

>> No.18130599

>>18130481
>landlords attempt to extract value without creating any.

You can apply that logic to literally every single rental service out there.

The fact is, people have to willingly take part in living in a rented building. I take part of it because Im only living here for a year and it makes no fucking sense to buy a whole goddamn house. Therefor they provide a service to which I agree to, and is a consensual exchange.

>> No.18130614

>>18130481
>Netflix's business model is antithetical to capitalism
>Movie theaters are antithetical to capitalism
>the entire notion of copyright is antithetical to capitalism
???

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>>18130571
>>18130567
>>18130522
Before you invade a forum and attempt to use their idiomatic language against them, learn how it fucking works retards.

>> No.18130633

>>18130568
Property rights and attempting to extract surplus value without wealth creation (i.e. RENT SEEKING) are not the same thing and there is no violation of property rights for killing parasite landlords.
BTW I own shares of in a co-op, I don't pay rent I own the apartment I live in. Landlords are worthless scum parasites and you will not win this in the end, no amount of posting cope on 4chan will save you.

>> No.18130643

>>18130568
He's literally one step away from claiming that capital ownership is antithetical to capitalism.
It's bizarre.

>> No.18130648

>>18130599

It’s consensual because you could easily just choose to die on the street it’s definitely not coercion you are doing this willingly we promise

>> No.18130674

>>18130633
>surplus value
commie pls go

>> No.18130700

This anti-landlord sentiment is just another divide and conquer tactic to get you to turn against your parents or the older generations. Most landlords aren’t the stereotypical Jewish guy with an apartment complex, it’s your boomer dad who’s renting out his starter home.

>> No.18130702

>>18130213
I say this as a libertarian and hardcore capitalist: landlords can eat a dick. they contribute nothing to society. all they do is sit on property (that they probably inherited) and leach money from people who are unable to buy their own. i’m not suggesting they should be killed or even that you should stop paying your rent, but seriously fuck these faggots. cry me a river.

>> No.18130707

>>18130213
All it has done for me is further prove that commies are annoying losers and 90% of them are disgusting trannies. Apparently they never learned that raiding 4chan has the opposite effect and turns people even more against them.

>> No.18130720

>>18130481
It's simple. You are a non-participant and have no concept of the effort and cost of maintaining a home or rental property. ~You are probably incapable of it since you seem to want a place of your own but have not been able to make it happen. Now you are just throwing a fit because you think it might get you "free stuff". You fucktards can't die off quickly enough honestly.

>> No.18130721

>>18130648
or you could just choose NOT die on the street....
Homeless people do it every day, that's why there are homeless people.

>> No.18130722

>>18130318
landlors don't even make that much money, I can't understand how anyone could hate them. They are usually in debt for the next 30 years and make at most 2,000 usd per month with very big properties.

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>>18130213
ATTENTION ALL TENANTS. let me explain this to you in very clear terms even your ignorant wagie mind can understand. you will pay my rents. i don't care if it's a week late. i don't care if it's a month late. BUT. YOU. WILL. PAY. MY. RENT. it's inescapable, a fact of life, as certain as you living out the rest of your miserable and inconsequential life in constant poverty. if you don't pay, you will be taken to court. your credit will be ruined. the full weight of the terrible jewish apparatus -- THE AMERICAN JUDICIAL SYSTEM -- will crush you with unimaginable violence until there is simply nothing left. your credit will be ruined. your meager savings will be bankrupted. your name and your reputation will be utterly destroyed. you will have no recourse, no hope, nowhere to turn. IF, HOWEVER, you beg and plead and cry and writhe, i just might put in a good word for you with my slumlord buddies. we are a generous bunch, you know.

>> No.18130724

>>18130213
EVERYONE HATES LANDLORDS
FUCK YOU LANDLORD

>> No.18130770

>>18130213
>It's getting cold in here
Landlord still hasn’t fixed your heating?

>> No.18130771

>>18130702
>I say this as a libertarian and hardcore capitalist: factory owners can eat a dick. they contribute nothing to society. all they do is sit on property (that they probably inherited) and leach money from people who are unable to buy their own.

Very convincing, you blend right in.

>> No.18130805

>>18130720
Dumbass faggot, I am a software developer who owns shares in the co-op where I live, i.e. how it should be done.
Owning land to try to make profit while not generating new wealth is antithetical to every capitalist school of thought and you are a stupid coping fucking moron for trying to argue against this.

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>>18130213
Discord tranny invasion of /pol/ and /biz/ with retarded Antifa pinko shit using Jew memes so they can try to pass themselves off as us.

Unironically these tranny antifa fuckers are our enemies (not even about the weird landlord spamming, I mean in general) and I hope they starve to death when the economy collapses and the welfare gets cut off.

Notice their often "off" usage of terms like tranny, jew, kike, etc. They know they're buzzwords here but aren't acclimated to 4chan memes so their attempts at "natural" banter and shitposting never seems quite right, and you can see it pretty clearly in their shitty raid threads if you look for it.

>> No.18130844

>18130702
sooooo much commiepasta. it's ok, this will end in a few days when these proles have to go back to work and/or get kicked out of their squats and/or have their electricity turned off and/or their phones disconnected. I'm going to keep making fucktons of money from my couch until they go back and hi-five their tranny friends like they accomplished something.

>> No.18130880

>>18130722
because they are retarded freeloaders that don't understand anything about earth? It might seem strange to see it here but most normie sites are filled with entitled losers talking about how they have the right to free everything.

>> No.18130902

>>18130770
It's cool I have a gas stove. Stop by if you want.

>> No.18130930

Classic liberal here.
Landlords took a risk. They shouldn’t be bailed out. The free market will take care of them.
They can’t evict people because the courts aren’t working. Another risk I guess

>> No.18130939

>>18130809
well stated anon

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18130947

>>18130805
> I am a software developer

>> No.18130990

>>18130479
>I'll gladly clean it up as soon as the police or my private security firm walks you off my property at gunpoint.

Your property?
Do you pay taxes? If yes, not yours.
Is there a lien on the property by a bank? If yes, not yours.

Going to be a rude awakening for the dipshits who have been squeezing people for inflated rent while contributing to the decay of the community by fostering a transient populace... just so they can make a few bucks.

>> No.18130995

>>18130947
I actually produce value, unlike landlord parasites. I am the ACTUAL CAPITALIST you shit for brains stupid fucking morons.

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>I am a software developer who owns shares in the co-op where I live

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>>18130995
>I actually produce value,

>> No.18131019

Nobody likes landlords, not even themselves. The world will be a better place without them.

>> No.18131023

>>18130990
please stop selectively bootlicking anon. and please, you really really need to.. go the fuck back

>> No.18131038

>>18131000
>>18131013
Posting cope on 4chan isn't going to save you
Landlords have lost

>> No.18131055

>>18130599
>The fact is, people have to willingly take part in living in a rented building.

Oh yeah, that's all it is. People are volunteering for this condition, because there is not widespread collusion among the "real estate industry" to limit the inventory and also inflate the prices

And most 'landlords' are just debtors sub-leasing properties they took out a mortgage on, which means they have little if no skin in the game... but their actions drive up property costs for others and lower the quality of communities.

If you were doing business honestly, you would not need flimsy and idiotic justifications such as the one you just posted.

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18131067

>Posting cope on 4chan isn't going to save you

>> No.18131084

>>18130213
Fuck landlords, I'm not paying my rent. I could pay for the next 10 years of rent in cash tomorrow if I wanted to, but I'm not going to. Fuck you OP, fuck slumlords, Ive made hundreds of thousands of dollars participating in capitalist markets, and I love it. However, landlords are the scummiest kikes on the planet and deserve death. So fuck landlords, fuck you OP, and fuck jannies.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXNcIqP_2JQ

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>>18131019
soooo.. no landlords.. the government owns everything and you are llowed one parcel provision that get's smaller and smaller every year, you are still paying taxes on it, and you don't get to choose where it is.. unless you have a cushy role in the New American Communist Workers Party. Holy fuck. No wonder you are practically hoomeless.

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>>18131000
checked
>>18131000
>>18131067
based
>>18131038
Pathetic response, apply yourself.

>> No.18131099

>>18130990
You know what's going to be a REAL rude awakening?
When the court systems are paralyzed and the fascists you've been complaining about for years actually manifest to roust out you squatting fucks, but there are no cops to save you and your commie lawyer's guild is powerless.

>> No.18131105

>>18131055
Every example of “unaffordable” homes/rentals is cherry picked from coastal cities. If you want to be able to pop down to your local brew pub and get that hoppy IPA then you pay the premium. Live in a flyover state.

>> No.18131125

>>18130880
That's a symptom of modern times, honestly. You see all these retards wanting everything for free or getting absolved of debt for free or the rich giving them everything because "they can take it".

Hard work has been devalued and instant gratification along with responsibility is massively lacking in the population. Just taking a look at a campus drains your hope for humanity.

>> No.18131135

>>18130614
>>Netflix's business model is antithetical to capitalism
>>Movie theaters are antithetical to capitalism
>>the entire notion of copyright is antithetical to capitalism

A building can be purchased by someone at a reasonable price, or taken over by a "holding company" and leased at an inflated price. In both cases the building exists.

The landlord does not provide any service other than increasing the cost of living and/or doing business.

The other companies you mentioned have created services that would not exist if they had not created them, and offer people access to things that would normally cost MORE to purchase than to rent.

How are you this stupid?

>> No.18131160

its certainly an interesting psy op. I wonder how long until we start seeing it spread to social media.

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>>18131084
>>18131019
soooo (((anon))).. no landlords.. the government owns everything and you are allowed one parcel provision that gets smaller and smaller every year. You are still paying taxes on it, and you don't get to choose where it is.. unless you have a cushy role in the New American Communist Workers Party. Holy fuck. No wonder you are practically homeless.

>> No.18131175

>>18131099
>t-the fascists are going to help the LANDLORDS in the end!!
You really are a stupid fucking moron

>> No.18131186

>>18130700
>Most landlords aren’t the stereotypical Jewish guy with an apartment complex, it’s your boomer dad who’s renting out his starter home.

Most rentals come from holding companies that bought of wide swaths of properties during the 2008 foreclosure scam, orchestrated as a massive fraud between the govt and banks. Now they are benefitting from what amounts to stolen property.

But yeah, keep thinking it's your dad renting his "starter house" that he sold in his 30s.

>> No.18131191

>>18131160
lol
its came to this shit hole last, it’s been on social media

>> No.18131213

>>18131186
At least admit that the dad renting out his starter home isn't a parasite then.

>> No.18131215

I had to fight my landlord 3 months because they didn't want to pay back my deposit, they said it all went to cleaning after me and as a proof showed onle hair left behing kitchen door.
They paid it back, but they wasted me many hours and tried to rob me for no reason.
I don't care if they loose that apartment.

>> No.18131220

>>18131055
>And most 'landlords' are just debtors sub-leasing properties they took out a mortgage on, which means they have little if no skin in the game

Like all commies, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Nearly all commercial real estate mortgages require 30% down. That's actually a fuckload of "skin in the game" right from the outset.

Your raids have already been outed, you're not cleverly going to go back to your pathetic, loser-filled shithole and get to go
>haha we sure pulled a fast one on those stupid racists!

>> No.18131230

>>18131135
>thinks a holding company isn't a even less engaged landlord
man commiethink really did a number on you faggots.

>> No.18131232

>>18130577
losing money*

>> No.18131235

>>18131023
>fails to refute anything
>gets mad

Why are you getting mad?

>> No.18131241

>>18131175
Yes that's literally correct even according to your ideology, what are you disputing?
The rich will inevitably pay people like me to kill people like you.

>> No.18131251

>>18131099
>fascists
>helping the community destroying parasites

Hearty kek.

>> No.18131286

>>18131099
>You know what's going to be a REAL rude awakening?
>When the court systems are paralyzed and the fascists you've been complaining about for years actually manifest to roust out you squatting fucks, but there are no cops to save you and your commie lawyer's guild is powerless.

Not sure what is dumber- this idiot's response or people who actually believe the fake news about a virus.

I've never depended upon cops to save me from anything, and not about to start. Courts are a scam since they're all article 3, and I do not participate in courts. You should probably know more about what you're talking about before you start talking.

>> No.18131290

>>18130568
>>18130643
He's just rational. Owning more land than you can work is a perversion of the concept of private property. By logic, all private land ownership is in a technical sense illegitimate. God never came down from heaven and told any of us or our forefathers than any lot of land belonged to us, so it was captured and distributed and then handed down as inheritance. Dogmatically we defend private land ownership beyond our means without even questioning it.

>> No.18131297

>>18131135
>No one would be able to watch movies if it weren't for Netflix and movie theaters
Galaxy brain!

>> No.18131323

>>18131213
If he lives there? No.

If he is renting out a second home for profit? Yes. He's a small time parasite, holding onto a house that someone could have otherwise bought and driving up the price with over-leveraged mortgages.

>> No.18131325

>>18131241
You are genuinely stupid, but you will see just how wrong you are very soon

>> No.18131334

>>18130213
based

>> No.18131335

>>18131286
>I've never depended upon cops to save me from anything
Yeah that's why you commie shills are always crowing about how the cops won't enforce evictions and it's illegal for landlords to cut off your utilities or just have you beaten up and thrown out, because you don't depend on cops.

>> No.18131336

>>18130299
You have nothing to live for do you

>> No.18131338

>>18131125
>You see all these retards wanting everything for free or getting absolved of debt for free or the rich giving them everything because "they can take it".

So what is taking out a 90-95% LTV loan on a property at relatively low interest and then renting it for 2 to 2.5x whatever you pay each month to someone who otherwise could have bought it at the same rate as you?

There seems to be a real disconnect here, with scumlords who think they are engaged in anything other than glorified usury.

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>>18131323

>> No.18131363

>>18131213
>At least admit that the dad renting out his starter home isn't a parasite then.

If someone actually OWNS their proprety FEE SIMPLE then do what you want with it. But just about nobody does, so renting should not be tolerated. Buy it and use it, or fuck off.

>> No.18131365

>>18131290
>Owning more capital than you can work is a perversion of the concept of private property.
Do you really think people here are so stupid they don't notice you're literally advocating for communism?

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>>18130257
>No, there's false flagging by /pol/ as commies because you think you're super double clever and that you're going to convince us shekel counters here to join your stupid political movement.

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>>18131023
You have to go baaaaaaaaack

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>>18131235
You're not worth it. Your cognitive dissonance is on full display. For the record, I fucking hate bankers and taxes too, as well as entitlement programs that allow NPC filth like you to accrue around the drain of an otherwise reasonable economic system.

>> No.18131384

>>18130318
No, absolutely .

>> No.18131390

>>18130723
Capitalist answer: You know, the tennants can just move out and move in with each other/their parents causing a drop in demand until the property market collapses and you go bankrupt right? All investments have risks and housing is just another form of investment.

>> No.18131409

>>18131323
https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/1112/reasons-renting-is-better-than-buying.aspx
Renting might be more desirable than owning in some cases. Therefore, he's providing a valuable service. Over-leveraged mortgage is your own addition, he might own the home outright.

>> No.18131413

>>18131390
>talks shit about capitalism on a business and finance board.
((anon)))... I...

>> No.18131425

>>18131220
>Like all commies, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Nearly all commercial real estate mortgages require 30% down. That's actually a fuckload of "skin in the game" right from the outset.

No, they don't. And if you put up 30% for an revenue-generating property then you are a total fuckwit beyond comprehension. It's more like 90% LTV, especially if the property is already being rented and you're just slithering in to take over the note payments with intents on jacking up rent each year by 10%.

>Your raids have already been outed, you're not cleverly going to go back to your pathetic, loser-filled shithole and get to go

This makes no sense, but the slumlords who until now have felt safe are soon going to be in the midst of those they have been exploiting. Hope you stocked up on ammo.

>> No.18131441

Basically, all these people are just coping with the fact that somewhere along the line they fucked their lives up. So they whine about people who are better off and fantasize about murder.

>> No.18131449

>>18130299
>rent-seeking
>I will provide you a service in exchange for currency
>this is somehow bad

>> No.18131451 [DELETED] 

>>18131286
>who actually believe the fake news about a virus
Please end your parheric life before harming someone.

>> No.18131454

>>18131230
>man commiethink really did a number on you faggots.

You were either too dumb to understand my comment, or you're just dumb. Either way read it again and revise your drivel.

>> No.18131459

>>18131363
Renting it out is using it.

>> No.18131462

>>18131325
>but you will see just how wrong you are very soon
I can't wait!
Do it faggot!

>> No.18131464

>>18131371
>>18131063
The (((media))) and the (((big pharma))) are aligned with the (((anti trumpers))) against a cheap and easy solution that Trump publicized.

Sorry bro but we are fucked even if the zpack hydroxychloroquine combo works (which it does)

>> No.18131484

>>18131297
>>No one would be able to watch movies if it weren't for Netflix and movie theaters
>Galaxy brain!

Aw, a desperate strawman that makes no logical sense... as if the service of providing convenient access to 'entertainment' at relatively low prices somehow equates to a scumbag taking out a loan on a building and then renting it out to someone for 2-3x what he pays.

>> No.18131493

>>18131286 #
>who actually believe the fake news about a virus
Please end your pathetic life before harming someone

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>>18131484
>movie theater tickets
>relatively price

>> No.18131535

After all this is over, all these rent strikers from chapo and bunkerchan are going to be evicted when the courts reopen lmao.

>> No.18131536

>>18131335
>Yeah that's why you commie shills are always crowing about how the cops won't enforce evictions and it's illegal for landlords to cut off your utilities or just have you beaten up and thrown out, because you don't depend on cops.

You still haven't satisfactorily established ownership. The scumlord really has no authority, and relies on the tenants being ignorant enough to participate in court proceedings.

Or if the tenant had to perform their own repairs on the property, they are entitled to place liens on the property themselves... and then foreclose on the liens if the scumlord refuses to reimburse them.

You sound like you're really in over your head, champ. You don't understand contracts at all, and your decision to rely on courts to handle any controversies for you was an act of waiving any rights you may have had. Too bad.

>> No.18131562

>>18131338
>pay each month to someone who otherwise could have bought it at the same rate as you?
then why don't you go out and buy a similar property?? It doesn't make sense what you're saying.

>> No.18131563

>>18131390
>All investments have risks and housing is just another form of investment.

My ex-roommate actually lost about $1,000,000 total when he bought an apartment building from a big-time drug dealer. Feds didn't know who was involved with his laundering schemes, so anyone who had any business relations with him had all of their assets frozen while they did a year long investigation. He wasn't allowed to rent out any of the rooms, still had to make mortgage payments, paid $60,000 in lawyer fees fighting it, and ended up losing his 6-family apartment building because he had to throw all of his money keeping the frozen one afloat.

>burrr LaNdLoRds DoNt RiSk AnYtHiNg!!!1!

>> No.18131567 [DELETED] 

>>18131454
stop drooling your keyboard anon.. just. go. back.
>The landlord does not provide any service other than increasing the cost of living and/or doing business.
You should know your place, or stay in your lane as they say in your parts. You don't understand the cost because you have never participated in the economy in any other role than as a bottom feeder. Improve yourself or take what superior kindly bestow on you. Also, be grateful, because the free handouts are ending. Perhaps you can try what so many of your comrades have doneo and become a tranny and hope that some extremely deviant yet capable man will take care of you.

>> No.18131580

>>18131365
>Do you really think people here are so stupid they don't notice you're literally advocating for communism?

Desperate to keep it in the box, are we? Because a lot of people who don't own property pretending they do, renting it out at 2-3x what it would cost to buy are engaging in usury, a sin.

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>>18130213
>>18131464

Yeah, they're so dumb. If they were smart, they would do a psyop that initiates a run on the banks. There was already a run on ToiletPaper. These dummies just haven't figured out they can meme into reality a run on the banks.

>> No.18131599

>>18131536
>leftist parasite crows about he can exploit the legal system to get his way
>still thinks he doesn't rely on the cops

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>>18130809
Exactly.
>>18131580
>13 posts by this ID
>MFW

>> No.18131620

>>18131365
Nope. I believe in private property, but I think that owning land as an investment vehicle should be heavily taxed. Its a finite resource that's needed for human life to thrive. Its like being able to buy up the earth's water supply and withhold it for profit.

But trying to apply a label isn't an argument. Why don't you argue that ownership of land IS legitimate? You can find some counter surely against my Rousseau / Smith.

>> No.18131622

>>18131580
>engaging in usury, a sin.
Go tell it to the priest.

>> No.18131625

>>18131336
>projecting this hard

>> No.18131633

>>18131371
>You're not worth it. Your cognitive dissonance is on full display. For the record, I fucking hate bankers and taxes too, as well as entitlement programs that allow NPC filth like you to accrue around the drain of an otherwise reasonable economic system.

Making a lot of assumptions. That's what idiots do when they lost on the facts and want to save face.

We don't need an "economic system". We just need equitable agreements between honorable men, such that people who work are compensated for what they do... and those who do nothing receive nothing.

Taking out a loan on a building and then renting it at 2-3x your loan+tax payment is doing nothing (other than inflating prices for your own benefit, to the detriment of other people).

>> No.18131660

>>18131620
>Why don't you argue that ownership of capital IS legitimate?
Why you don't go fuck yourself you dishonest commie fuck?

>> No.18131676

>>18130213
Capitalism is all about competition and usury!
Remember 'greed is good' speech?
When opportunity comes you need to use it for your advantage. Just get together and fuck landlords collectively and you will be winners and landlord looses, that's the game, so what are you waiting for ? It is usury system and freedom to believe = freedom to deceive . Do you thing your land lord wouldn't kick you out for money? Money is a mark of the Devil , what ever money touches turns in to shit .
Rule of the people (direct democracy) Popular Peoples Congress as executive institution. We need to serve life, not gang for their money.

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>>18131580
>Hey I'm a communist who has nothing but hatred and contempt for Christianity but if I start throwing bible at you maybe I can manipulate you into doing what I want

>> No.18131687

>>18131633
So are you against renting in general, or just against overcharging?

>> No.18131713

>>18131409
>Renting might be more desirable than owning in some cases. Therefore, he's providing a valuable service.

Renting should only be allowed when the one renting owns the property fee simple, period.

Your propaganda piece about renting being better is almost solely due to the fact that the racketeering that goes on in the "real estate industry" coupled with the holding companies inflates costs, as well as the high upfront cost of "buying" a property for someone who just wants a house.

It's a lot easier to get a commercial loan for a income-generating rental than it is to get a loan for a house to live in, NOT THAT ANYONE SHOULD NEED TO TAKE OUT A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>> No.18131725

>>18130721
>shelter isn't essential for human survival

KYS faggot

>> No.18131730

>>18131687
He's a communist.
He will say whatever he thinks will cause you to consider adopting communism.

>> No.18131759

>>18131725
>a cardboard box isn't shelter
We are not entirely without mercy here, anon.

>> No.18131773

>>18131535
Kek

>> No.18131774

>>18131620
>should be heavily taxed.
kys immediately

>> No.18131775

>>18131449
>>I will provide you a service in exchange for currency
>>this is somehow bad

The problem with thinking in one liners is that it hard-caps your IQ at 50, plus you sound like a moron when you comment or speak.

If you are renting something, you don't need it. You could just sell it to someone who does for a reasonable price and move on.

But instead, you choose to squat on the property and extract "rent" that is typicaly 2-3x what it would cost someone to buy it.

Explain the "service" you are providing?

>> No.18131787

>>18130373
You know love may sometimes make you cry,
So let the tears go,
They will flow away,
For you know love will always let you fly
...How far a heart can fly away!

>> No.18131796

>>18131451
>Please end your parheric life before harming someone.

Harm is reserved for the braindead fools that think the common cold warrants and justifies a "national lockdown".

>> No.18131797

>>18131713
HOLY FUCK look at this retarded and seething communist.

>wahh wahhh im having a hard time paying rent so it shuld be free

kys you useless and entitled faggot I hope you end up homeless so I can spit on you in passing.

>> No.18131798

>>18131633
stop trying to cloak your retarded communism in libertarian language. It's transparent as fuck and you are wasting your time here.

>> No.18131814

>>18131775
>It's a communist tells people what they need episode

>> No.18131819

>>18131459
>Renting it out is using it.

No fool, if you are renting you are by definition not using the property, and additionally, do not need it because you are able to rent it.

>> No.18131832

>>18131819
You're using it to generate revenue.

>> No.18131843

>>18131484
>taking out a loan on a building and then renting it out to someone for 2-3x what he pays

Show me a single property I can do this with that doesn’t require a massive down payment. I’ll wait.

>inb4 a 600 unit complex.

>> No.18131854

>>18131515
>>movie theater tickets
>>relatively price

That's the best you got? Like you actually think you won that one by suggesting that movie tickets are too expensive? baka

>> No.18131864

>>18131819
You do not “need” to raid /biz/ from your tranny goyscord, so don’t do it.

>> No.18131897

>>18131620
>Nope. I believe in private property, but I think that owning land as an investment vehicle should be heavily taxed
Cuck

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>>18131819
>No fool, if you hire workers to operate your machines you are by definition not using the machines, and additionally, do not need them because you are able to let other people use them.

>> No.18131918

>>18131562
you realize that property is not an infinite resource right?

>> No.18131928 [DELETED] 

>>18131832
he unironically wan't everyone to work 20 hours a week at their goverment appointed "job" then retire back to their subsidized government housing so they can spend their allotment commie-tickets on staple foods at the nearest US Federal food outlet. There is a word for this anon. It's "niggerdom".

>> No.18131964

>>18131562
>then why don't you go out and buy a similar property?? It doesn't make sense what you're saying.

Let's see....

Qualifications for a commercial loan.
90-95% LTV
Little or no "Credit history" OK for income-generating properties
Low doc
Low interest
High loan amounts

Qualifiactions for a mortgage.
80% LTV
Lots of "credit history"
Lots of documentation
LTV based on AGI, which usually limits loans to below what "market prices" are at

Aside from that, most of the places that anyone would want to buy and live in are already snatched up by "holding companies" who will just rent them out... so what's left over is generally overpriced junk.

But none of this changes the simple fact that a scumlord does nothing to add value.

>> No.18131997

>>18131563
>My ex-roommate actually lost about $1,000,000 total when he bought an apartment building from a big-time drug dealer.

>burrr LaNdLoRds DoNt RiSk AnYtHiNg!!!1!

Like you, he risked exposing the fact that he is a moron and succeeded. You did as well. *slow clap*

>> No.18132001

>>18130213
If you really been here enough you would already know that's more than half of biz are commies.

No wonder so much people lose money in here.

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>>18131854
Well considering it fundamentally undermines the premise your argument was based one; that movie theaters provide convenient access to entertainment at relatively low prices and therefore are not comparable to landlords who charge more for rent than their initial expenses. I think its more than adequate.

>> No.18132006

Hey guys, is this the commie newfag thread?
Really love that brrr meme, keep it up

>> No.18132030

>>18131567
>You should know your place, or stay in your lane as they say in your parts. You don't understand the cost because you have never participated in the economy

Taking out a loan on a building then renting it out for 2-3x whatever your loan payment and tax is does not constitute participation in the economy. It's usury; parasitic and creates zero value.

You didn't respond to my points because I am correct and you are full of shit. End of story.

>> No.18132059

>>18130723
Based, fuck tenants.

>> No.18132074

>>18130318
Your wish is granted and landlording is abolished. Where do you live now?

>> No.18132091

>>18132030
>profiting from investments does not constitute participation in the economy

>> No.18132099

>>18132030
again.. you sound like a child that doesn't understand what owning property entails. I understand you want everything for free, but an easier way to get it would be to become a tranny like most of your friends. I'm sure there is some deviant man that will take care of you in return for performing your womanly duties. It sounds like your best bet (((anon))).

>> No.18132124

>>18132074
Not in my doorway, I can tell you that much.
I will pour gasoline on his homeless ass while he sleeps and light him on fire.

>> No.18132129

>>18131599
>leftist parasite crows about he can exploit the legal system to get his way
>still thinks he doesn't rely on the cops

What is the "exploitation" there, chief? Legal = contracts and all Americans are recognized as having the unlimited right to contract (or to refuse to contract) as they so desire.

Cops are there to enforce contracts on behalf of THEIR corporation, the STATE OF STATE franchise, which I choose not to participate in or contract with.

He's calling me a "leftist" while fuming at me for knowing and exercising my rights... like the simple fact that court requires consent of both parties.

Oh, that's a real burn for you isn't it. You don't want the "bottomfeeders" to learn that they can just refuse any documents you serve them with, and rescind their signature on any "lease agreement" ESPECIALLY in the context of a 'force majeure' event such as the one currently in play.

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>>18130213
>much commie boogiemen

>> No.18132153

>>18132074
I own shares of the co-op where I live, as I already said
>>18132124
You're a shit for brains stupid fucking moron

>> No.18132167

>>18132129
>I do not participate in or contract with
>I merely exercise my rights according to the contract I do not participate in or contract with

>> No.18132183

>>18132074
in his appointed government housing of course. but the government can't be a landlord because.. collectivism or something? They would never abuse a monopoly on housing right? The fed would end up owning all the houses like they are now anyway by buying up MBS. You commies are beyond retarded. You are either the son* of a rich banker or a complete moron because you are advocating giving it to the exact same "userers" that are fucking you right now. Stop wasting time with your 12 year old attempt at political theory.

>> No.18132220

>>18132153
>he thinks his "shares" written on a napkin give him a voice in anything except whether they have gender neutral bathrooms.

>> No.18132233

>>18131686
>Hey I'm a communist
No, I'm not a communist. Thanks for trying so hard tho.

>>18131687
>So are you against renting in general, or just against overcharging?

If a person creates a building, with their own capital and no loans, specifically to rent it out - I'm fine with that.

If a person buys a property and owns it fee simple (i.e. is the true owner, not paying property taxes on it) then let that person do as they please for it belongs to them.

My problem:
Cuck from "biggerpockets.com" decides to get a commercial loan with little or no down payment, little or no credit history, low interest and minimal documentation to buy up multiple houses only to rent them out at 2-3x what it would have cost for a family to buy said houses directly.

He has no skin in the game relative to the "value" of the property, and he is only inflating prices without adding value.

>> No.18132276

>>18132220
What the fuck does this even mean, shit for brains?

>> No.18132291

>>18131797
>My idiotic world view has been shattered so I will call anyone who disagrees with my exploitation of people and businesses a "communist".

That's quite a hefty entitlement you have going on there. It's like you believe you are owned compensation for literally doing nothing other than pissing in the pool.

>> No.18132293

>>18130809
this guy gets it kek

>> No.18132298 [DELETED] 

>>18132233
So they can't just own it outright, they need to have created the building themselves now too?

>> No.18132344

>>18131798
>stop trying to cloak your
>wasting time here

If that is true, why are you so triggered? I'm not speaking from any political angle. My angle is the truth of Jesus Christ, and usury is a sin. Rent exploitation is no different than usury as it seeks to profit one by providing nothing of benefit to another. Luckily for you, there are no rentals in the Lake of Fire where you will be spending the remainder of your existence.

>> No.18132351

>>18132233
>to buy up multiple houses only to rent them out at 2-3x what it would have cost


Show me one of these houses.

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>>18132344
>nice larp
Tell your (((parents))) they are fucked.

>> No.18132378

>>18132291
Ok, maybe you're not a communist.

You're just a poor loser faggot who will never amount to anything in life because you only think in terms of "GIBS ME DAT" like a true nig

At least commies have an argument lmao.

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>>18132233
>is the true owner, not paying property taxes on it
I see what you are now. Get dabbed on.

>> No.18132389

>>18132276
You need to go back.

>> No.18132406

>>18131832
>You're using it to generate revenue.
No bud, if you have a car you use it to travel. If you are renting it you are not using it, you are renting it. Your pitiful attempts to play with words are failing.

>>18131843
>Show me a single property I can do this with that doesn’t require a massive down payment. I’ll wait.

Any property that generates revenue is eligible for "highly preferential financing". If you don't know what you are talking about here, we can only wonder why you keep posting.

>> No.18132407

>>18132344
>Rent exploitation is no different than usury as it seeks to profit one by providing nothing of benefit to another
If tenants don't benefit from renting then why do they do it?

>> No.18132444

Communists are not human.

>> No.18132447

>>18131099
>the fascist
>working for the person they see as the lesser jew
>working for the person who traded the cohesion of their community and stability of their economy for (possibly illegal) outsiders paying rent money
Please tell me this is a LARP. The fascists are probably going to come harder at landies than the communists are.

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>>18132444
checked

>> No.18132466

>>18131904
>No fool, if you hire workers to operate your machines you are by definition not using the machines, and additionally, do not need them because you are able to let other people use them.

Really? Wow. The stupid is cringeworthy here.

Workers are being paid by you to operate the machines.

The machines are producing something that is presumably needed or wanted.

Machines can be leased or purchased, because unlike real estate which has a limited quantity in a given area - machines (and other commodities) are built as needed to suit demand.

But wait, I'm a communist, how would I know any of that?

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>>18132466
I understand your frustration.

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>>18130213
Conflict begins from drawing line between and make one apart. Justice is realization, that it is just us. Everyone's needs can be met by free giving by the heart and we know how to do it step by step. Reajust peoples activities in a life serving way with out punishing any one or even hate >>>Money<<< totally changed Criminal "justice" where gang of bamboozled men taking advantage of peoples misery by suggested to imagine excuse as right or wrong.
Land lords live by pure usury they do not create any thing . Lord say Do not have any other lords accept Lord him self and fear only Lord not fake land lord. If Land lord not use other peoples need to live then in that time he can create something that makes life more wonderful useful. why it cost money to live?

>> No.18132554

>>18132276
it means you don't know how fucked you are

>>18132389
exactly

>> No.18132570

>>18132406
You are making the claim that these 3x properties are widely available. Show me one of them. You are deflecting because I don’t think you can.

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Theres both..
The absolute retards who think Trump ever had the first idea of what the fuck he was doing
And the far left commie talk.

Both are extreme and retarded.
Most of biz is in the middle trying to ignore both.

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>>18132386
based orc dabber

>> No.18132608

>>18130399
Shut the fuck up. How is housing a human right? The point of a society is for people to be safer in numbers, but make no mistake you will get exploited no matter where you go. Stop being so idealistic that it blinds you. You faggots want to make the world a square when it's a circle.

>> No.18132616

>>18132005
>Well considering it fundamentally undermines the premise your argument was based one; that movie theaters provide convenient access to entertainment at relatively low prices and therefore are not comparable to landlords who charge more for rent than their initial expenses. I think its more than adequate.

It really doesn't undermine anything, other than the presumption that you had an IQ above 30.

Movie theaters are built specificially to allow people to watch movies. They can charge what they want. More movie theaters can be built if demand is high, or closed down if demand dries up.

Real estate in a given area/region is very finite. If all the "prime" properties are bought up by a holding company or 'wealthy' scumlord, it causes price inflation while also introducing a heavy transient population effect that diminishes the quality of the community.

There is no comparison between commodities that can be produced on demand to meet demand, vs real estate. People need a shelter; people do not need to watch movies. Families should be able to afford a quality house in a good location without having to spend almost all of their money each month to pay for it.

And the scumlord exists to do nothing other than leech off of people who are most likely already struggling.

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>>18132593

>> No.18132640

>>18132091
>profiting from investments does not constitute participation in the economy

>takes out a loan
>Uses it acquire a property

How is that investing, again? Investing implies you had capital to invest in the first place. You took out a loan.

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>>18132622

>> No.18132656

>>18130318
but seriously though, who's paying you to troll these boards
and for that matter, why are you for sale
is this a "i have to live in this capitalistic society so i will sell my soul to own an iphone and eat avocado toasts because those are clearly necessities to function" type of deal

>> No.18132666

>>18130385
yes.
and you are too
fucking retards

>> No.18132669

>>18132616
> More movie theaters can be built if demand is high, or closed down if demand dries up.
>Real estate in a given area/region is very finite.
Movie theaters require land dumb-dumb

>> No.18132677

>>18130633
Brainwashed retard scum detected. You're just seething with rage and it's being redirected toward the weirdest shit...

>> No.18132678

>>18132099
>Desperate army of strawmen

Give it a rest. You have nothing, and are flailing like a dying carp. You're a scumlord who relies on banks to exist; you are going to be theone of the first dominos to get smacked down. Then you can talk to that deviant man and maybe he'll help you out.

>> No.18132679

>>18132656
someone should tell Boeing to stop buying avocado toast so they don’t need bailouts every 10 years

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>>18132587
fucking this, holy shit

>> No.18132737

>>18132616
>that spacing tho.
Now fuck off while I go short the market and profit from your suffering as nature intended.

>> No.18132740

>>18132679
how is boeing astroturfing on biz
are they the ones telling me to buy UND

>> No.18132744

>>18132167
>I merely exercise my rights according to the contract I do not participate in or contract with

How many vaccines did you get injected with to be this stupid?

The STATE OF STATE provides only benefits IN PLACE of rights you have all along. How and when I contract, and with whom, is solely at my discretion.

You embrace the spirit of satan, but don't realize that if satan was actually smart he would not have rebelled in the first place by getting all jealous of mankind being made superior to him. LOL

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>>18132744

>> No.18132784

>>18130723
Greed is good? when opportunity comes you need to act brave unite and make land lords loose, that what winners do It is open competition . Land lord will kick you out for money just like that, now it is your opportunity to get together and be a winner. and don't forget the guns for meaningful communication with a land lord . With the sympathy to the Devil.

>> No.18132800

>>18132351
>Show me one of these houses.

Look up a rental holding company and view the properties they offer for rent. Why do you think saying "show me____" is a valid rebuttal, like if I don't then what I said isn't true.

There are commercial and residential holding companies. Look them up yourself, or continue posting and sound like a fool.

>> No.18132823

>>18132378
I'm sorry that you are struggling so hard to understand my posts that are written in English. I cannot translate them to retard, but perhaps someone else here will oblige.

>> No.18132830

>>18131215
Pro tip - take your pubes with you when you go
You could have saved yourself a lot of time

>> No.18132880

>>18132447
>all fascists are Nazis
Guess how I know you're a dumb commie.

>> No.18132910

>>18132407
>If tenants don't benefit from renting then why do they do it?

Most people have to live within a specific proximity of where they work, and also where they have family.

Nobody really wants to rent, and why would they, if reasonably priced houses were available.

But the second any reasonably priced houses in a decent location become available, they are either bought up by holding companies or withheld from the market by the "real estate agents" who make private deals on the side to line their own pockets.

It's like the hitman who accepts $50K to kill someone, then going to his mark and offering to tell him who wants him dead if the mark pays him $100K.

It is DISHONORABLE, and it is shameful.

>> No.18132917

>>18132554
>it means you don't know how fucked you are
I'm not fucked at all, I own my apartment so I don't pay rent and I can work from home so I will continue to make income.
The only people who are fucked are landlords. You are genuinely a stupid fucking moron if you continue to deny this

>> No.18132919

>>18130702
>Hardcore Capitalist
Like mitt Romney was severely conservative? KYS shill

>> No.18132924

Imagine siding with (((landlords))).

>> No.18132943

>>18132823
your posts are written in nigger and gibsmedat

learn basic human nature.

>> No.18132969

>>18132917
>I own my apartment
k

>> No.18132973

>>18130213
Sounds like something a landlord would say.

>> No.18132980

>>18132969
Yes, that's what I wrote

>> No.18132990

>>18132669
>Movie theaters require land
So what? If something is built upon empty land it can offer a benefit to others.

This doesn't mesh with the claim that someone using a loan to acquire a building, only to rent the building (or even land) out at 2-3x his cost is providing value. Inflating prices is not providing value.

>> No.18132993

>>18132917
>The only people who are fucked are landlords
the cope is palpable

>> No.18133058

>>18130399
You're an idiot, the only things promised are taxes and death, if you expect more you lack self improvement

>> No.18133059

>>18132943
>your posts are written in nigger and gibsmedat
>learn basic human nature.

The Lord provides me with all that I need.

I am not human; I am just a man.

>> No.18133075

>COMMIES GET OUT

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REMINDER

>> No.18133089

>>18132233
I don’t build homes. All the processes involved are not my profession. Framing, plumbing, wiring, roofing, etc. I do buy them completed when I find one I can afford. As an auto mechanic can I say that unless you build the car drive you have no right to it? BTW 4 homes owned, all paid for with cash.

>> No.18133092

>>18132993
When tens of millions of americans refuse to pay their rent in a few days and the state sides with them, what are you going to do? Jump off a building or shoot yourself in the head?

>> No.18133111

>>18132800

>look at the rent

No, that’s not what you claimed. You claimed several times that there are properties for sale (houses specifically) that get purchased and then rented out for 3x the mortgage. Show me one of those properties. Assuming fantastical 0% down zero interest, there isn’t a single property for sale near me that would rent for 3x the mortgage, 1.5x is the highest and they are all “fixers”. I’ve made good faith searches to find evidence to support your claim, so I’d like you to show me.

I suspect your 3x number is after inflation has beaten down the loan and rent hikes have increased the profit margin after 7+ years OR you are cherry picking where speculators have purchased ahead of a boom, neither of which is as straightforward as you are making it out to be.

>> No.18133114

>>18133059
>I am not human
false. you are just the lowest common denominator.

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>>18130702
>I say this as a libertarian and hardcore capitalist: landlords can eat a dick. they contribute nothing to society
Imagine being so retarded you can't understand your own ideology.
You are an embarassment.

>> No.18133143

>>18130213
Live somewhere else if you don’t want to pay the rent. Imagine the level of entitlement these ‘people’ are on.

>> No.18133150

>>18132344
Wants us to think he’s a Christian now. Kek

>> No.18133154

>>18132074
in a house he owns

if landlording was abolished all those boomer landlords would have to sell their properties at once and crash the price

>> No.18133183

>>18133092
that's the hilarious part anon. you advocate for government control of everything but the banks control the government and they are going to open everything and force your commie ass back to work as well as oppose any moratorium on squatting. Have you seen the current administration.. the president is unironically a lifelong landlord. here you are advocating for government confiscation of private property and calling yourself some kind of freedom fighter. you fuckers are beyond help/

>> No.18133272

>>18133183
I literally never once advocated for government confiscation of property. I advocated for tenant confiscation of property.
I do not believe in owning land that you do not occupy. Whether through co-op owndership of a building or owning the land outright, the person who owns the land MUST live on it, or else it is taken by the person who currently does.
Not once have I advocated for "government control of everything", and as I have said multiple times, I am not a communist.
but of course, you fucking shit for brains morons aren't actually intelligent and don't actually know what you're talking about.

>> No.18133362

>>18130399
explain how something that has to be payed for by the time, labor, and resources of others can be considered a human right

>> No.18133363

>>18133059
Has the lord provided you with a home?
Did his carpenter son build it?
Maybe his son - in - law even did some of the wiring and plumbing as a side gig

>> No.18133369

>>18133272
>I literally never once advocated for government confiscation of property.
>When tens of millions of americans refuse to pay their rent in a few days and the state sides with them
oh fucking nevermind retard.

>> No.18133433

>>18133272
>person who owns the land MUST live on it, or else it is taken by the person who currently does.

This is such an antiquated view. In a world with high speed travel increasing exponentially, why shiouldn't people be able to own multiple homes in multiple countries? Why shouldn't I be able to lock out bums from entering my 2nd, 3rd or 4th house in different countries with high security lock mechanisms?

As always with leftist thought, it never goes beyond base emotion, rooted in fake arbitrary social science theories that explain nothing with logic, only justify emotion with wordplay.

>> No.18133460

>>18130213
100%
This place is getting flooded by leftpol rent rats

>> No.18133524

>>18133369
That's not the state seizing property, it's the tenants seizing property. How stupid are you?
>>18133433
Nothing you just said matters whatsoever. There is nothing "antiquated" about understanding that rent-seeking is antithetical to capitalism. THIS ISN'T LEFTIST THOUGHT YOU FUCKING DUMB FUCK
None of you even know what the fuck you're talking about.

>> No.18133538

>>18133433
>tenant confiscation of property
dude's a fuckin retard, that's called buying it unless you wanna get killed

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>>18130213

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>>18133272
>Mutualism logic
That's right, anon! Every time you're not using your property i have the right to come into your house and use your stuff...
Also, you don't mind if i use your wife too, right anarchobro?

>> No.18133626

>>18133538
No one's killing the tens of millions of tenants who are going to refuse to pay rent. The state will turn on the landlord class because the people refusing to pay or work are overwhelmingly more important. There is nothing you can do about this.
How fucking dumb are you fucking morons?

>> No.18133651

>>18133524
>That's not the state seizing property, it's the tenants seizing property. How stupid are you?
>advocated for the "state" to side with the tenants.
now what does that mean retard? I know you are larping to try to spread your commie drivel but you are exceedingly bad at it.

>> No.18133661

>>18133524
Don't change your argument now, I'm responding directly to your words. You just said the landowner "MUST" live on it. So why must he? Why can I, as a land owner, not own a piece of land or a holiday home on every nation on earth if I so desire and go through all legal channels to do so? If I don't know what I'm talking about as you say, then please enlighten me instead of throwing a petulant hissy fit.

>> No.18133670

>>18133651
It means that the tenants get the property rights and the landlord is shit out of luck.
Tell me where in this situation the government gets the land?

>> No.18133679

>>18133602
Clearly the NEET has a right to wagie's wife while he's at work.

>> No.18133682

>>18133602
kek

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>>18133670
>conveniently avoids the topic of state enforcement

>> No.18133835

>>18133626
>tens of millions of tenants who are going to refuse to pay rent
so is this a guesstimation based on retarded hopefulness?
I know you're trolling but at least make it realistic, say 1 dumbass project area does it instead of 6 million

>> No.18133838

>>18132344
Yes indeed Capitalism is open competition grabbers game of usury who wins or loose.
Usury is a sin, that creates suffer Deep inside people know it in their hearts, that is why we all hate land lords. and by Capitalist competition game we can get together and crew land lords back make then loose, be a winner.

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>>18133670
>the landlord is shit out of luck

>> No.18133878

>>18130213
Landlords are people to and they do some stuff however its really the system that screws over everyone. Why is it most Americans cant pay rent past a few months.
You should want a political paradigm shift not kill muh land lords

>> No.18133924

>>18133838
fuck off kike.

>> No.18133927

>>18133835
Unemployment is projected to hit 30%. You think it won't be millions?

>> No.18133951

>>18130399
>thinking human rights exist
I cant breath

>> No.18133959

>landlords get a taste of a tiny bit of risk
>chimp out

nobody likes you

>> No.18134102

>>18132005
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Rsy2MlHXVE3y/

Yes indeed if one except usury and winning, then except loosing when wind change. Get together and have a plan how to get your land lord to bankrupt. in any case you will all win few month rent. if we do it together the we can eliminate usury in a form of land lording, then we will take away usury by energy hoax . just get already together in Rule of the People (democracy) Popular peoples Congress as highest authority it is we all together. It is doable

>> No.18134126

>>18133878
>the sound of a million tranny baristas crying out in vain.
feelsgoodman

>> No.18134153

>>18134102
the library closes soon commie, and I think you reached the data limit on your iPhone plan. finally some peace.

>> No.18134181

>>18131904 Yes thank you , there is hope for humanity to clean out and free our self from grabbers games of usury

>> No.18134231

>>18134181
>that id tho
>can't even SPELL business
who are these retards?

>> No.18134380

>>18132466
You need to be tortured long time and slowly
grabber it is time for lie and usury in public place hang few. In order to have 1 rich you need a lots of poor and I don't buy that suggested imagination to cover up obvious usury. We all have got 24h a day to exchange in a meaningful way. In order to live in peace in a heart beat of the day we need to club 'Fish heads' 1% psychopaths and will be no gov., no authority, no big owners , now super important people at all.

>> No.18135698

>>18130809
stay mad landlord cuck.
You can come evict me on the other end of these shotguns

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>>18133086

>> No.18136497

>>18130213
All commies get a free helicopter ride

>> No.18136508

Friendly reminder that the average Chapo Trap House subscriber is a NEET or severely underemployed.

According to a subreddit survey:

>Employment
Place your bets..

40% of Chapos are unemployed or employed less than full time.

18.5% claim "employed student", but this could be either full or part time. Given what communists think of capitalism and hard work, the answer is likely part, but it is not possible to say definitively from the answers.

If I make the easy generalization and say that those employed students are all working part time, the previous figure jumps to 58.5% of Chapos being unemployed or employed less than full time.

35.6% are employed full time or self-employed. You may now proceed to speculate about what "self employment" is for a capital-hating communist.

>Finances
Now we get to the good stuff.

43% of Chapos make less than 20K a year. Given the previous stat that places most of them in coastal areas, likely with high costs of living, I would venture an educated guess that most are below the poverty line.

Remember that 30K a year is $15/hour before taxes. With that line in the sand drawn, it means that 44.3% of Chapos are making at or below entry level wages.

A few of them (4.6%) claim to make more than $100K a year. These users should leave immediately, because they'd be first up against the wall when the communist revolution takes hold.

94.7% of Chapos are in some kind of debt with 48.2% of that debt being, unsurprisingly, student loans. 42.2% of Chapos have a debt value below $1K, with 52.5% having more than that.

71.8% describe their material conditions as "comfortable" or "adequate".

>> No.18136547

>>18136508
Friendly reminder that this doesn't mean anything and you're proving yourself a stupid fucking moron for continuing to post it

>> No.18136558

>>18136508
Ok?

>> No.18136560

>>18130614
Of course copyright is antithetical to the notion of private property, ideas can't be property because you can't fucking own them, they're not scarce. You can only implement it through positivist legislation

>> No.18136603

>>18130213
It's tourists, every board has them at time for different reasons. They will go away when the next twitter hashtag event captivates their microsecond attention span.

>> No.18136614

>>18136547
I know you’re a chapo.

>> No.18137216

>>18136547
it explains why as a group you retards would look for any excuse to "liberate" yourself some property because you are all too poor and ineffectual to actually obtain it in the current system.

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526. The argument between socialism and capitalism comes down to this: to those who, when left to their own devices, naturally rise above the mean, and to those who fall below. The former will be proponents of capitalism, the latter of socialism. The former are talented and hard-working, the latter talentless and lazy. And all this is proved by the failure of socialism, and in particular that of communism: its ultimate manifestation — as if a group of habitual losers at the individual level would be able to create, by pooling together all their weaknesses and failures, a winning combination!
But it is plain that, as they lose on the individual level — as individuals — they will ultimately lose on the group level too. The only reason they temporarily succeeded at a few points in history is because they were facing even greater losers: a complacent and degenerate aristocracy.

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>>18136547
chapo faggot go fuck yourself and suck on this hard ass dick poor pussy freak

>> No.18137386

>>18130213
t. Landlord
Your day of reckoning is coming soon you fucking parasite

>> No.18137399

>>18130213
quit LARPing. We all know you ain't killing your mother.

>> No.18137531 [DELETED] 

>>18137386

>"I can't function in soft modern society in a time of affluence."
>Yeah so anyway, when the revolution comes and I'm a 5 star general in the communist army, here's how all of society will work"

If a revolution comes (which it won't because it would require you guys to do something), you'd be too incompetent/cowardly to partake in it. Go take more drugs.

>> No.18138050

>>18130213
this board is infested with disgusting kikes because of the subject matter. Imagine looking down on some renter while the property you "own" is in danger of being repossessed if those damn wagies don't pay you. You are renting from a bank as a landlord, and your property taxes is just rent to the government, you are as pathetic as any tenant.

>> No.18138158 [DELETED] 

>>18137386
>squats on their property until the police remove them and the landlord confiscates all of their property and sues them and has their wages garnished for the next 20 years
that'll show em nancy.

>> No.18138177

>>18136508
Based

>> No.18138226

>>18130213
You realize they all go away if you just insult their weak sensibilities
A few drown in nigger aids cum faggots go a long way

>> No.18138234

>>18137386
>day of reckoning
>>18137386
>squats on landlords property until the police remove them, the landlord confiscates all of their property, sues them and has their wages garnished for the next 20 years
That'll show em' Nancy.

The desperation is palpable. These are underachievers and freeloaders that are scared that they are about to become homeless and unable to pay rent. I get it, but you could have been prepared. Your landlord likely is. If my tenants don't pay, I will cover it myself and hire lawyers to wring anything they earn out of them in perpetuity. You cannot win pleb, I thought you knew this already.

inb4 but muh state will side with me reeeeeeee.
they will not. you are fucked.

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FUCK NIGGERS!

THAT'S RIGHT! FUCK NIGGERS! KIKES TOO! I HATE ALL FORMS OF NIGGER, KIKE, SPIC, AND ARABS TOO!

>> No.18138287

>>18138234
>inb4 but muh state will side with me reeeeeeee.
>they will not. you are fucked.
yes, the unironically will, and you're seriously a moron if you dont see this.
What is the state going to do:
1) attempt to remove literally tens of millions of people, which is logistically not possible (it's literally not physically possible), plung the state into chaos and destroy the nation, or
2) tell landlords they don't get their money
If you genuinely believe landlords are going to win, you're a stupid fucking moron.

>> No.18138328

>>18138287
ok, post here in a week when your commie raid is over.. except your phone will be turned off by then and you will be homeless.

>> No.18138343

>>18130213
>>>/pol/
You have to go back.

>> No.18138344

>>18138328
I own my apartment for the last fucking time. I am at no risk, and I am not a communist.

>> No.18138345

>>18138287
>actually thinks the cops will help him tresspass
you poor desperate pleb. oh well. all you have to look forward to is living in a tent if you can find a place where the police won't remove you.

>> No.18138371

>>18136508
Based

>> No.18138397

>>18138345
I own my apartment, I can't lose this regardless of what happens (the landlords are going to get fucked and I"m going to laugh and be comfy)

>> No.18138408

>>18131918
You realize that property is often sold, right?

...Actually you probably DO think that the world works like Monopoly, and once you buy a property its yours forever.

>> No.18138419

>>18138397
>Magically everyone owns their apartments now

>> No.18138440

>>18138419
>somebody tell him about this thing called property tax

>> No.18138480

>>18138345
>>18138419
You guys are seriously fucking stupid so I will spell it out very clearly for you
We are at a level of unemployment that has never happened. People can't work and the majority of people pay rent. This is a contradiction, people can't pay rent because they aren't working and the state is on panic due to an airborne super virus that turns people's lungs into jelly so they have to put resources into fighting the pandemic.
Meanwhile, stupid fucking landlords are still trying to get money from tenants who literally can't pay. There are TENS of MILLIONS of these tenants who will not pay. Somehow, the stupid fucking landlords think that the police and the state is going to step in and help THEM, which will crash the country and the economy even more and guarantee a second civil war, rather than tell the landlords "you aren't going to get your rent for the next few months and there's nothing to be done".
IF you really don't understand what's happening, you're a dumb fucking moron.

>> No.18138503

>>18138480
don't park your car, if you have one, or pitch your tent in front of any of my properties, or i will have you removed and set them on fire.

>> No.18138544

>>18138503
You have no power and you aren't intimidating.
You can continue to gnash your teeth and shit your diapers and call me broke, but I'm not and nothing I'm writing is wrong.
Landlords are about to get absolutely FUCKED and it's going to be hilarious to watch

>> No.18138584

>>18130213
there's no point in sybilling /biz/ because the 20 of us who know each other already know the true spirit of /biz/ and realize this is an invasion, the funny part is that the unwashed hordes that are sybilling us think they're affecting the minds of more than 20 schizos lmao

>> No.18138769

>>18138544
You retards really think that you're not gonna pay eventually? You might kick it down the road for a few months, but you will pay every single month of rent you own.

>> No.18138810

>>18138544
bro I rent to family and they work for the government so... idk.. have fun fighting your chink landlord or whatever situation you got yourself into.

>> No.18138969

>>18132880
I urge you to research the symbolism of the Fasces, the symbol of Fascism.

>A single rod is easily broken, while the bundle is difficult to break.

This is not something inherent to just Nazism.

>> No.18138983

>>18130257
Imagine thinking post 2016 /pol/ is smart enough for that

>> No.18140515

>"The landlord demands a rent even for unimproved land, and the supposed interest or profit upon the expense of improvement is generally an addition to this original rent. Those improvements, besides, are not always made by the stock of the landlord, but sometimes by that of the tenant. When the lease comes to be renewed, however, the landlord commonly demands the same augmentation of rent as if they had been all made by his own. "
>"Rent, considered as the price paid for the use of land, is naturally the highest which the tenant can afford to pay in the actual circumstances. In adjusting the lease, the landlord endeavours to leave him no greater share of the produce than what is sufficient to keep up the stock"
Who said this?

>> No.18140704

>>18140515
exactly.