/biz/ - Business & Finance

I don't respect women, bros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_-U9jmvOb4

OIL IS A MEME

Which cheap, high reward stocks should I go all in on?

>>18117837
You shouldn't. They don't deserve it.

>>18117823
>Pre market and live data
>catgirl hentai
Now that's what I call priced in.

Reminder that this shit is going to crash so fucking hard

>>18117853
alpha investments is the best investor on youtube

>>18117853

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQnOYZ_Glt8

>>18117823
First for GOROmos.

>>18117878
Rudy is great.

Are we still accumulating REFR?

I am thinking about starting a weekly general to try and teach you retards about the basics of economics, financing, and trading. The amount of retards here that can't even read graphs is astounding. Thoughts on this?

Will not start an argument about women in this thread, lads.

Don't give into their mental torture. Escape from them, if even for a brief moment.

Good luck.

>>18117837
we know dude, you've been literally posting the same fucking shit in every single one of these threads.

>>18117875
My S&P 240p for 4/1 really hopes so.

I can no longer tell if i should go all in on call options a few months out or put options a few months out. What are yall doing? What information do you look for to make such decisions.

>>18117897
I'm interested.

>>18117897
Go for it man. Drop a memecoin address for donations and put actually good advice. Pastebin that shit and lobby the worthless mods to put it in the sticky when you have a lot of content.

>>18117894
Got about 3gs, prolly get some more

You guys are scaring me. Is the US actually going to collapse?

Someone please tell me what to do, I tripled my investment on a call and now I don't know what to do. I want to buy UVXY puts. Tell me it's stupid.

>>18117907
i'm holding 4/3, we didn't go far out enough. probably will get pumped till end of april

How do you fuck up this bad

>>18117897
Yeah do it, we’ll come in there and shitpost

>>18117853
>if I had to predict I'm gonna go ahead and guess that the stock market is probably overdue for a dead cat bounce
I wish he posted this a couple days ago

>>18117935
No, but invest in international stocks just in case

>>18117913
Call, also, by that logic, just buying shares is also smart.

>>18117935
It did decades ago.

>>18117935
Our money is witnessing some pretty severe short term inflation. Prices up 10-15% on average. Saw individual rolls of toilet paper being sold for a buck and a half a pop. Collapse? Probably not, but we've got some humps yet to go.

>>18117928
What's your average buy in?

>>18117913
I'm just buying stocks like a normal person you fucking lunatics. Wait till the market isn't so fucking volatile.

>>18117897
newfag general? /nfg/?

>>18117897
Can you do one about women too, or are you not qualified because you are a virgin incel faggot.

>>18117946
make a legit move then government manipulates market while you're on vacation not keeping an eye

>>18117935
Its gonna slowly turn into Brazil at this rate, give it 30-40 years

My plan to beat the meme market:
>big green friday -> liquidate short positions and trust in J-Pows to pump the market indefinitely, in fiat we trust
>crab friday or small red friday -> hold short positions until monday to confirm new dip
>bloodbath friday -> take my gains and sit in cash

>>18117946
Options

That person would've lost less had they just bought stocks only and didn't sell. If they bought back in 2015 they'd likely be in the positive.

>>18117971
about $10 a gram, if anyone fucking tries to charge more than that it better be medical.

>>18117946
I would probably seriously consider killing myself if I fucked up this badly. I can only hope that isn't everything they have

>>18117897
Definitely would be interested.

>>18117965
You're right, but I still refuse to believe it.

>>18117881
fucking LULZ

Fasten your seat belts bois

>>18117853
SHORT GUSH

>>18117946
Man I thought that said $250 the first time, holy fuck this nigger took a warm bath with a knife and a toaster after this

>>18117913
There is no fucking way we're digging out of this via printing. Either the dollar will become worthless or the market will continue to go down. What the fed did is a medium term pump to get their best friends positioned for the next cycle.

>>18118045
Noob question why does it say GUSH was at $5,000 a share last year

>>18118063
That's retroactively calculated based on a few reverse splits. It was never actually that valuable.

>>18117853
BASED RUDY

>>18117881
>Wankel engine just to finish the meme

>>18118063
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/reversesplit.asp

>>18117935
Depending on the timing of events it might very well be. Debt cascading could catch everyone out in the open since the financial system is so interlocked.

Finally, the speed of these generals has gone down....

I made 2 dollars. Am I going to make it?

>>18118140
They speed up and down in accordance with market volatility.

>>18118145
of course, anon

>>18118145
We're all going to make it if we follow your example, my little wolf of /biz/

>>18118140
This thread is still going so fast that nobody will notice that I love traps but am not gay. Just imagine pounding her prostate and hearing her gasps of pleasure, then cuddling afterwards. Completely straight

>>18118167
youre gay

>>18118153
How do I short /smg/?

>>18117897
Will you use the word retard in every sentence? Could be fun.

What are your qualifications again? Are you over 18?

DO I BUY
OR DO I SELL

>>18118175
Im an heterosexual with an acquired taste

>>18118167
thats a woman

Real talk, the airline industry is still going to go under despite the bailout isn't it?

>>18118145
Wait a minute... are they US dollars?

>>18117913
Yeah, I’m thinking short volatility when anons are thinking it’s a good idea to strangle the market with Vix at 50

>>18118160
>>18118159
happy
>>18118203
yes

>>18117897
>trading
maybe you shouldn't

>>18118153
I think this general will default when /pol/ leaves, causing the rate of exponential tendie posts to slow to a point wherebiz will default.
I want to write a collatoralized debt obligation on tranches bonded with posts.

But yeah, prior to the pol invasion a single thread would last a day or two.
Longer if it was the weekend.

The stomach of the economy is split wide open with it guts pouring out onto the floor. I work in a suburb of Dallas, and my job is still essential, so I'm still going in. There's a great pub about five minutes from my office that's closed but still doing takeout. Owner had a special where you got to choose two types of barbecue (brisket, sausage, or pulled pork), two sides, and a salad for $22.00. I wish you could have seen the amount of barbecue this guy was giving out. Several pounds, easily four or five meals if you aren't a fat ass. The look in his eyes was a knife in the heart. He's just trying to make something, anything, to help cover the cost of rent, but even with those proceeds, he's still convinced the place is going to shutter. Yes, he's still "employed," but he's on the knife's edge just like tens of millions of other people. These dumbfucks are obsessed with "money printer go brrrr" and a line on a stock chart that has absolutely no fucking bearing on reality. I seriously don't see how this doesn't end in mass violence and bloodshed.

>>18118167
That is not a cute picture

>>18118192
fair enough :)

>>18117897
As a fewllow retard who at least understands intermediate economics I fully support this. I'm tired of people using the bubble argument and not realizing why it's a terrible analogy

>>18118201
https://youtu.be/qcO19O1RRyM?t=46

>>18118201
anon...

>>18118230
thing is his capital will get wasted and someone else will come in
There will be places to eat open in that city
They will get tons of business on the rebound

A bbq joint doesn't drive the economy
It's like a connecting pipe in a web of connecting pipes. The caps get sealed and the whole thing keeps pumping.

It's the pumps that matter.

>>18118230
no were going into an epic bullrun anon. just keep buying the dip

>>18118233
can't wait for loli weeb fat fucks day of the rope, stop normalizing pedo shit in my STOCK MARKET GENERAL YOU FAT NIGGER

>>18118230
priced in, rent is still due end of the month ;^)

>>18118202
Airlines will be viewed as essential. The worst case scenario is mergers. Delta cannot survive this without biblical amounts of bailout money.

>>18118256
>>>/pol/
This is not your thread.

>>18117823
STIMULUS HITS SNAG IN HOUSE!

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/489793-house-leadership-advises-members-to-return-to-washington-as-massie-weighs-roll

We red tomorrow!!!!

>>18118256
:(

>>18118256
>stop normalizing pedo shit
No

>>18118256

>>18118256
only problem with that image is that they have dicks

Buy the bull goym

>on queue with ameritrade
>2 hour wait time
>30 minutes in and it hangs up randomly
This sucks

>>18118296
noticed this earlier kek

mmmm what guro should me touch self to tonight guys

am think ayaswan

>>18118256
>dotr
Look I hate that shit as much as you do, but that meme for seething poltards is dumb as fuck. Closest thing we’ve gotten to a happening is like LA riots and now the boomer remover. This world is stronger than some of you fags wish it were.

>>18118275
This is Kentucky Representative Thomas Massie. He is the reason you won't get Trumpbux. Say something nice about him!

>>18118275
>Massie
I can't believe my ass is going to get saved by a fucking libertarian

>>18117853
I like his financial analysis, I hate that he's the reason MTG cards were and still are so expensive.
CCG speculators are cancer, the fact this guy is both a CCG speculator AND a landlord makes him really fucking scummy

>>18118296
>some analysts say it’s going up
>some say it’s going down
Just another Thursday, why’d you even post that? Just a dumb clickbait headline.

What if this is actually just a dead cat bounce? If so I hope bullcucks made their money and got out so bears can have their time in the sun.

>>18118307
why were u on queue

>>18118312
>ayaswan
Wowwww that’s some shit. Lots of brainfucking and whatever the hell the female equivalent to cbt is.

>>18118296
oh so that's why futures are -2%

>>18118230
I wish there was a good barbecue place near me.

Anyway, are there any publicly traded megachurches? I've got a feeling faith is going to be a valuable commodity in the coming months.

>>18118275
I never thought I'd say this but thank god for libertarians

Alright so I’m new to investing, and I want to be conservative and buy some stuff to hold long. Do you guys see another dip over the next week for some cheapies?

>>18117881
>>18118034
>>18118078
you guys are fucking weird.. viewing women as objects and of all.. cars.. how dare you!!

>>18118322
He’ll cave in at the darkest moment to make sure there’s maximum pain for all the shorts who will get margin called and cover rally us to ATH’s.

SDOW bagholders, the future is grim for us.

>>18118363
Hold on let me check my crystal ball.

>>18118346
need to make sure my account doesn't get suspended for 90 days for too many round trips

How do I get x40000?

>>18118167
>her prostate

>this whole time I thought being a pattern day trader meant selling three securities within four business days
>actually means buying and selling of the same securities in the same day three times within four business days
Fuck do I feel stupid.

>>18118267
I know for a fact that Delta Cargo spent $2.1 Million on some scam vaporware from the startup I worked at. This startup was banking on Delta being the account that got them to Series C.

Not looking too good now. $40m in VC down the drain. I was making $80k a year to do virtual software demos...the good times are definitely over.

>>18118275
priced in

I don't give a fuck about stocks nor do I own any

I'm just here to laugh at Bearfags and Bullkeks whenever one of them loses a day

>>18118349
kek yeah he has good grasp on anatomy and fear. though kinda feel he no understand pain enough.

still feel like watching people be torn to shreads

>>18118383
You can't check how many round trips you did on your account?

>>18117897
I am the wolf of Wall Street

>>18118363
Honestly a lot of stocks right now are at a discount, might as well grab some while you can. WEN in particular actually looks pretty good and should recover over time. But as with any company, do your due diligence and don't blindly follow advice especially on /biz/ ... I fell for the SQQQ meme and its burning me right now unless tomorrow turns red.

Expect there to be dips in the future followed by large gains in the market as the economy plummets, but if you can hold, you're gold.

>>18118363
No one is sure what the fuck is going on right now. We could be recovering, or we could be in the bulltrap. Flip a fucking coin. If you're good with holding long just buy some too big to fail companies and wait years until you have a profit you like. Don't kick yourself for not buying at the bottom, just be glad you didn't buy at the top.

>>18118419
...dave ramsey? is that you?

>VIX futures 8.88%

>>18117823
Whats this pattern called?

>>18117823
Stupid faggots actually think this rally will continue.
I'm ready to eat bull balls with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

>>18117975
I can give you advice on women. What do you want to know?

>>18118417
I can, and it exceeded the amount. I just want to make sure it doesn't get suspended tomorrow or something since it warned me about it

>>18118432
The JUST

>>18118428
We're a long ways from 84.00

>>18118432
crashing this plane
with no survivors

>>18118367
how could we not, girls do a decent job objectifying themselves

Is the key to making insanely easy gains just to have enough in your portfolio to be a day trader? It seems like you'd make easy money just buying in on whatever is currently on a pump and then dumping as soon as the pump ends.

>>18118423
Seconding WEN. I managed to get a good buy on it today and I plan on holding it for a while.

>>18118315
dotr? the fuck are you trying to say

>>18118506
That’s the key to losing all of your money very easily.

>>18118506
You and literally every beginning day trader thinks this. You will get duped big time by one of the big boys inevitably.

>>18118322
ill make a lot more than 1200 if we red tomorrow

>>18118521
Day of the rake bro he’s just using an acronym to what he was responding to. Cmon get with it

>>18118506
shhh anon don't tell this secret out loud, if more people learn to do it, we won't be able to make money like this anymore

>>18117913
I bought long dated calls but I am a bit concerned about their overall performance. I did start buying some stocks as well. Lost some money on puts, made some money on puts. I want to cry.

why Australia is down ?

>>18118590
>everyone unemployed
>businesses with no revenue
>people dying everywhere
Why the fuck should it be up???

>>18117970
We're looking at severe long term inflation. Wealth flows up and QE going to the big players accelerates buying power loss and minimizing of economic mobility for those on the lower rungs. I don't know if the Fed and the government doesn't actually understand this but I'm pretty sure Jerome Powell went to an Ivy League school. How you could not model the effects of QE and think it was good long term is beyond me. It only took me a few months of on and off consideration. How long has QE been going on? Do these people just wing it and say, 'oh, well we didn't die, guess it worked, time to do it again'. Like seriously.

>>18118447
You might already be suspended from using your margin account to open any new position. You should be able to close preexisting ones though.

>>18118599
In the US NuMarket those are all bull signals

>>18118167
female

>>18118599
Don't forget Australia is also on fire.

>>18118605
its a feature, not a bug.

crash the USA with no survivors, open the borders, take the guns, etc.

in 50 years this country will be a hellscape

>>18118063
Lots of reverse splits.

Lets say you had 1 share at 5000 and they split. Now you have 2 shares at 2500 each. They do this a bunch of times.

>>18118605
If all you have is a hammer, everything begins to look like a nail

>>18118599
That's exactly the reason it should be up retard. Look at what's happening here and apply that simply logic elsewhere.

>>18117935
As long as OPEC only allows oil purchases to be in dollars, it can get really bad for the people at the bottom but will hold.
If OPEC starts taking Euros or Yuan, expect war.

>>18117787
I must be really retarded. If I open sell, how would I close it? Isn't that up to the person who bought from me? At least I understand Buying and transfer of the contract now.

>>18118599
don't forget the venomous spiders, snakes, sharks, crocs, ay crikey, and the bush fire-eedooos waltsin matilda, waltsin matilda lalala

tick tock

This $2T bailout was fucking retarded. Imagine blowing your load this early. Who gives a fuck if the market actually drops 70%. The only people who do are the mega corporations loaded up in debt who were expecting a bailout. Fuck them. I want my cheap stocks and I want the government to stop bailing out shitty companies that only know how to buy back their own stocks. All that the government is doing is devaluing our money while trying to temporarily save the stock market REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>18118612
ya, that's what im afraid of. It said I could call to get it opened up again but I can only do it a set number of times. I wont be so retarded next time around

my GME calls
:)

>>18118669
>+110%
:)

>>18118466
That's already what the entire stock market is called

>>18118658
yeah I feel ya man, all of this plus there’s a student loan, auto, and housing bubble simultaneously

>>18118669
Nice one, I was making some good money there last week too. I was hoping it'd dip back under 4 so I could scoop up some cheap shares. Flipped it twice for a 50 cent margin on 2k shares from 3.70 so I'm not too upset.

So what does the Direxion reverse split mean for us?

>>18118432
the "we lost him doctor"

>>18118658
they are checking the barometer with this move, create a story about a fucker going against the machine, use AI to sift through messages, see if the public responds positively or negatively, take moves according to the response. Win reelection.

stimulus failing has unironically been priced in
we can't even hit -2%

>>18118681
i got some strikes already up 500% with an average of 200%. good thing vol is high across the board too.

>>18118700
>when the Hand of Reggie blesses thee

>>18118506
You can 'day trade' under 25k in a purely cash account. Doing it right now.

>>18118628
I fear you may be right. What to do, what to do.

>>18118630
Good point.

>>18118728
I only managed to grab some $4 calls at .40 each.

>>18118728
When everyone and their grandma started bashing them it was a big bvll sign.

>>18118723
There is no pricing in or pricing out—there is massive market manipulation for now until there isn’t anymore

>>18118752
I'm trying to get to rural Idaho next year. Build a cabin or fix up a house that I can leave to my future kids

I really hope tomorrow is red, anons. I really need to break even.

Stimulus bill getting delayed would just be another bull signal. It just means that the market is going to rocket slightly later so keep buying into the bull for when it happens. That's just how the market works, everything is priced in.

>>18118757
you gotta be greedier with those otm strikes 1sd or so out. try to get them for less than five cents only. if you can't get them then fuck them. they aren't worth your time and the market makers shouldn't have been dicks.

>VIX +10%

>>18118797
Sounds pretty chill.

I've been considering just going inna woods since I don't have a lot of capital saved up right now. Have an AR, a glock, a Prius. I've slept in cars before. It probably won't happen though. I'll likely be pulling in a lot of cash this year regardless of how downcast I might be.

>>18118818
>It just means that the market is going to rocket slightly later
You're implying the stimulus bill isn't priced in

>>18118817
Look at the SPY after hours sell off and futures altogether. Looks like profits got taken. I'm guessing red into green EOD.

>>18118833
What exactly does a change in VIX imply? Are markets expected to be more volatile come opening time?

>>18118842
The stimulus bill is priced in passing and priced in if it's delayed and priced in if it doesn't work and priced in if it doesn't pass.

>>18118833
The vix was at 51 yesterday

>>18118861
That's why it keeps going up and down all the time. They're just cycling priced ins.

>>18118860
it means everybody’s buying puts

Silverchads REPORT IN
>>18118605
It's not about effective solutions, it's about looking like you're doing something so the public likes you. And if the heads of central banks and governments didn't have absolute faith in the efficacy of BRRRRRRRR they would never have reached those positions of power. They've got an explanation with a hundred formulas, papers and simulations behind just about anything they do. Sure a five year old could find problems with their policies, but who cares when a dozen PhDs said they're saving the world?

>>18118833
I don't even know if that'll beat the decay from the crabbing, but I'll definitely be taking a loss tomorrow...

NEVER will I bother fucking with a 3X levered inverse ETF EVER again.

>>18118605
we will not escape the deflationary effects of this crisis. the only things people are buying are food, toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and bleach wipes.

"severe" inflation, unlikely.

>>18118241
>terrible analogy
gee, maybe it's because you went to a public university and learned econ from a keynesian hack like every other npc

>>18118691
It is going to be spectacular watching this pop those bubbles on top of everything else that is happening. Babylon is burning but they can't hear the sirens over the BRRRRRR of the printers.

>>18118882
You can buy puts out of market hours?

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>18118890
Yeah fuck that, if I'm going to lose money I might as well buy options.

>>18118890
>NEVER will I bother fucking with a 3X levered inverse ETF EVER again.
I'll drink to that. What are you sitting on? I'm fervently praying that SQQQ goes back to $22 / $23 so I can get out.

>>18118902
Yep, it’s loud...can’t see it right in front of them

>>18118860
>>18118868
>>18118890
>>18118882
These are VIX futures, not regular VIX. It means people expect tomorrow to be crazy.

>lost about 5k trying to time this bull trap
God fucking dammit

Herro whyte boi i take your money for the CCP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWAaSqJXa8w

>>18117935
If it does who cares nobody will be ready not even the fudds with MUH 10k bullets and 15 year expired MRE’s

>>18118890
everyone is covering their short positions; soros, dalio, ackman etc

>>18118937
I know, the VIX futures were at 51 yesterday.
We had vix highs breaking records three days in a row 2 weeks ago. 82-83-84 respectively. I understand it is high but given the climate this is rather tame.

NGL, I'm seeing some signs of contraction. So I'm poised to do some in and out quick put buy and sells. I'll use up the round trip allocation once in order to take what I can. Fuck holding bags at the end of the day.
But this is the big part: I'm not, under any circumstances, playing a long put game.

>>18118938
literally me

>>18118934
its gonna be real fucking funny if that $2T stimulus and all this brrr money was just to pump the dead cat bounce and leave the future generation with unpayable debts before spy retraces to 60

>>18117942
Hate to disappoint you, but shorting volatility is based and redpilled. Get a far away expiration.

>>18119005
haha wow so funny

So who's gonna star in the Big Short style movie about this crash?

>>18118322
looking sharp trumpbux killer. can i sell you some sqqqqq? :?

>>18118638
A good war could be just what we need, unironically. There would literally be no other option at that point.

>>18119021
bobo

>>18119005
seems like the 2008-2009 monies did well. What makes you think this is any different?

>>18118938
>>18118979
>only 5k
Maybe it will turn around next week?

>>18119021
me but it is gonna be a tragic comedy

>>18118432
Bear life.

>>18119021
Ryan Gosling

>>18118411
What did you go with?

>fear

what about the stock market though
tell me about it

what kinds of financial instruments are the cute girls buying

Redpill me on uso

>>18119079
gamble with x15 to x20 leverage with ctfs against indexes
300%+ returns if ur lucky
entire deposit deleted if ur unlucky

I thought we were done with this red shit. That’s what you guys told me! I went all in on SPXL at the close because you said we have all time highs soon.

>>18119043
It's so much bigger and honestly so many of those jobs are going to be nuked. There wont be a bar for these people to go back to. Half of the people I know are in dire financial near ruin right now because they made $200 in tips each night and spend $100 after each shift, basically with other people doing the same thing.

I got laid off from my software sales job, finally got hired as a trucker after 3 months of searching and the plant is closed. Shit is real. If people aren't spending, there's no earnings.

Unless the market completely decouples from any sort of reality and fundamentals are thrown away while ETFs act as horses at the track.

I don't know what is going to happen but it doesn't feel too good on my end and I feel stupid as fuck for being complacent and not making a better effort to get off grid.

>>18119066
You guys think oil is gonna drop tomorrow also?

>XON, UWT, WTI?

>>18119043
It took nearly 6 years for that to help and that is so long its difficult to judge what effect it had directly.
Can it be done in 2 weeks? I doubt that.

>>18118937
So crazy that small caps are down only 2.5%...
I’m guessing it’ll be flat by open.

Then this:
>>18118369

>>18119100
oily
risky
oil probably going down once storage fills up

>>18119107
what if I don't want to gamble....

What's your predictions on today's candlestick pattern?

>>18119133
then do fuck all nothing until this market stop beings a gamble smartass
wait for the true bottom that comes next month

>>18119124
Yes. I am going to short GUSH to 0.

All futures are trending lower and the HSI is about frozen at .5%.
After the weird transactions I'm gonna keep things staged overnight to make a quick in and out attack on some options in the morning.

Also, oddly enough the dollar is down against the CHF and the GBP. It's weakened against the Yen, down 3 yen from 111 to 108.
Wonder what the inflation rate is now at...

Why are the futures down ?

>>18119141

>>18119033
you're god damn right I will

>>18118385
Hnng-

>>18119130
small caps are the source of the large caps earnings
who do you think buys things from AMZN ro buys advertising on GOOGL or FB or has their employees using MSFT office
the we've been shitting on the small caps and buying the megacaps for years
but the megacaps can't exist without the rest of the economy paying them....


>>18119146
post a picture of your feeet so I can decide if ur smart or not....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onz5EpCRPoI

>>18119159
nobody has any idea

>>18119159
trumps YUGE package is priced in

>>18119159
Still too soon to say, but, it is looking like the bulltrap meme is turning out to be true.

>>18119159
More muted reaction. Plus there were a number of odd transactions earlier in the night. With a 1 time volume at 8pm EDT of 2.5 mill hitting all three indexes at the same time. Plus the dollar is doing worse than usual against the major currencies.
We may be seeing signs of a contraction event. Hard to say. We will have to wait until the markets open at 0930am to see.

Speaking of, I should probably get some sleep. If tomorrow is going to be red I want to be perfectly poised to take advantage of it.

>>18119021
it's gonna be a smart and quirky comedy with powerful leads like Michael Fassbender and Edward Norton, but paired with fun sidekicks like Lizzo and that not funny asian girl comedian

>>18119195
night, anon

>>18119156
>oddly enough
>feds literally handing out money like candy on halloween
>literally traded billions of dollars to other central banks around the globe
I think people forget that the feds are a global institution and control global monetary policy. In the past 2 weeks they literally announced trading currency with a ton of banks.

Actually, if someone could go through and do some data collects on volume throughout the night plus a few select posts (Try to keep it ones that seem to make comments on odd things happening on the markets rather than AAAA OOOOO EEEE IIIII UUUUU) we could probably do some data analysis post closure tomorrow afternoon.

>>18119199
I want more Eddy Norton movies...
he was so good in Grand Hotel Budapest and 25th hour.....

>>18119159
Tbh, futures were red all last 3 days and changed right before the market opening to green and then into ridicolous plus...will most likely be the same today.

>>18119188
Bull traps should span weeks or months. I think we are in one but it'd be crazy to accelerate the market cycle like that to days. But infinite QE so who knows
I don't think a mass sell off will happen until its deemed that commodities are a safer haven for liquidity than stocks. I'd expect gold, silver, etc. to shoot up sharply before that happens.

REIT collapse when, half these fags can't make their margin calls.

god i hate new yorkers and am glad that shithole of a city is on fire right now

>>18119214
Well that's just it. Those are done through treasury moves and bond action rather than the open market. Usually it's bond movement, changes in yield, and so on. This was more like a firm going in and mass selling fucking everything they could. Last I checked, and I could be wrong, the FED doesn't actually buy up any stock.

>>18119195
Reeeaaalllyyy... a massive buy order?
Any got any data on this?

>>18119234
Gold was up today from my understanding.

>>18119244
buy them on the cheap
they're gonna get bailed out and pay 20% yield on cost

At last I truly see, it's all become so clear @_@
>>18118411
reluctant have you red tha Junko Furata doujin?

>>18119256
you’re correct, they haven’t. They said they’ll be buying ETFs, but only those loaded with bonds. But They’re also buying private debt (corporate bonds), which is basically direct lending as far as I can reason it.

What makes you think this was a massive sale? I thought you meant buy.

>>18119244
>can’t make their margin calls
You mean mortgages?

there is no way this bill doesn't pass. whoever is responsible for holding it up would not be reelected and we all know how much that matters to politicians

>>18119286
sunny d is that u
i have something for u

>>18119316
yaya!

>>18119301
Supposedly a bunch of REITs are in margin calls, but the banks had agreed not to actually do anything about it so as to keep the market afloat, but yesterday the Royal Bank of Canada decided to start acting on them

>>18118738
What broker?

>>18119318
consider this for after we have all watched "Black Sheep" together:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g03-RXbPj8E

its fun :D

>>18117823
>i cant believe it's not butter
i cant believe we're actually getting bannerlord in 4 days

>>18119021
>It's just 90 minutes of me crying that I didn't sell TVIX and UVXY on March 18th

Dear God I hope I didn't miss the bottom this a painful crab.

>>18119325
Hummmmmm
Well. That shouldn’t be effecting they mREITs in the US that are getting JUSTed.
Would be real nice though if I could not lost money on my EWC put. Damn Canadian Banks...

>>18119325
>>18119355
Oil is fucked. REITs are fucked. Banks going to margin call them to save themselves.

>>18119252
why did I read that in his voice

>>18119311
implying the voter base will remember that in a few months during all the chaos.
Dubs and it passes. Singles and the house holds it up. Trips and the US actually takes the virus seriously.

>>18119376
the only thing not fucked is qqq desu

>>18118275
Any bad news= money brrrrrrr
Good news = money brrrrrr

>>18119029
Trump needs to cancel all American debt owned by the Chinese as reparations for this virus

>>18119376
I'm new to this whole thing, how do REITs get raped by these margin calls now that the Fed has agreed to help them?

>>18119399
Well, that will spark the war at least.

Just how long can Jerome's fart fuel the market?

>>18119402
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/reit.asp
Basically they take out massive loans, buys income generating stuff, then distributes that income to shareholders. This is why they generally don't grow but have high dividends.

>>18119423
for as long as he is fed chair

>>18118738
You can't pattern day trade unless you have 25k in equities too much risk for SEC

>>18119331
I dunno about this "Wes Anderson" guy, I think if we're gonna watch any of his movies it'll be Bottle Rocket (1996) or Rushmore (1998)

>>18119411
there's not going to be a war, literally the entire world is against them. They have no allies, and I don't think they can rely on their stolen murican weaponry to get out of this one.

>>18119347
the crab is larger than you can imagine

>>18119376
REITs will be bailed out
call it collateral if you're mad, or necessity if you aren't

>>18119451
Life Aquatic is numero uno, but GHB is numero dos
LIfe Aquatic is so good, I'm going to watch it right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHo26IhDxx0

Would you guys buy Carnival Cruise or Norwegian Cruise?

>>18119411
Wonder if that’s why defense stocks are doing well, or are people just buying up shit they think can’t possibly fail

>>18119453
it's over. they are trying to make reality out of lies printed in WSJ. nobody except for biz bulls honestly believes that it's over.

>>18119481
nah
there are about a million other stocks
find the juicy

>>18119442
That only applies to margin accounts. Cash accounts are using your own cash on hand so you can make round trips without limitations.

>>18119453
>Two days from now
>"SHORTEST BULL MARKET EVER!"
I HATE THE TIME WE LIVE IN
HOW CAN WE TRADE ANYTHING IF EVERYTHING IS FUCKED?
CANT EVEN DO PROPER OPTION PLAYS BECAUSE VOLA IS HIGH

>>18119492
Okay what would you suggest?

>>18119483
If there is one thing that is always a safe bet, it is American imperialism and our ability to create new and groundbreaking ways to kill someone as efficiently as possible.

>>18119159
futures constantly red all week and the going hard green during trading hours because the market is on fucking life support

>>18119453
>Its real
Ok, this is literally the most bearish signal ever.

>>18119505
hold cash for about 3-4 days, and then ask again

>>18119376
if banks start margin calling reits it's all going to come crashing down. commercial mortgages are already on the brink of collapse

>>18119510
as we speak, futures already nearing green

>>18119521
So you think we haven’t bottomed yet?

>>18119494
O true didn't know that

>>18119483
I think it’s more like they were wayyy oversold and are solid blue chips

Perhaps also the attitude on trumps reelection odds from 100%, to 10%, and now back to somewhere in between. Does predictit show the changes over time?

>>18119529
we just bounced hard, so sell pressure is gathering again

>>18119510
unbelievable really

>>18119521
Yeah I wanted to buy some cheapies for the long haul, I’m new to it all. I think it’ll dip again

>>18119529
We haven't begun to fill the full brunt of the economic shutdown. Plus factor in that officially the oil war starts next week means that this is gonna dip again.

>>18119524
Banks do not give a shit lmao, they will fuck EVERYONE. Just like every other time.

>>18118432
The digital to analog converter.

Also, someone yesterday was asking if their is a tag for droopy eyes:
tareme

>>18119538
So hold hard or sell?

>>18119528
>>18119541
It's scary as fuck because despite the memes the money printer can only brrrrr so much before it comes crashing down. hopefully we don't all end up in the soup kitchen line after this shit is done. April is going to be a fucking crazy month.

>>18119556
This is why I invest into banks.

What happens to all the extra electricity produced by hydroelectric dams and nuclear plants and solar plants and shit like that in extended periods of low demand

>>18119569
just relax and enjoy the ride

>>18119556
Yeah the housing/auto market is gonna fucking implode soon

>Wake up in Europe
>Everything is closed and shut down till mid/end of April probably
>US has not even started to shut down
Just saying

>>18119524
Leaf bank already called REITs.

>>18119579
hydro and nukes can throttle down, idk about solar but if you just unplug the panels I guess nothing happens?

>>18119301
I might have misspoken and said buy instead of sell. But around 801pm a lot of people noticed about 2.5 million volume on all three futures plus SPY at the same time. Anyways here's a screenshot made when it was happening.

>>18119583
It’s my first ride. I’ve been contributing to a pension, and voluntarily a 457 (b) also via work. So this is my first foray into trading individual stocks because sitting inside all day between work days has been dreadful.

>>18119453
Crazy. I can't believe they printed that. Usually biz news will do optimistic stuff like 'market is doing great and here are some stocks still on discount!'. Not bear market over, official, done deal, golden bull forever.

>>18119604
Which people? Fintwit or some room for futures traders or something?
That is interesting. I’m so damn done with my shitty schwab interface. Damn it.

>>18118605

As long as most oil is traded in USD, I don't see this being an issue. Fall of the empire will be if the petro dollar continues to decline.

Futures are about to be green

>>18117946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQY32VGnRK4

>>18119598
sauce

>nikkei up 5
>ausfagx down 7
what does this mean

>>18119597
This is America.
We would rather kill the sick poor and elderly rather than exercise some basic shut downs.

How have the European markets been handling this?

>>18119617
They’re just using the textbook definition of bull and bear markets. It’s not a projection of future market behavior or anything like that.

>>18119647
Europes markets just follow the US
Complete panicking btw.

>>18119647
We also didn’t have outbreaks as quickly as... say... Italy and iran, big belt & road sites important to China.

>>18119641
RBC did that.
https://business.financialpost.com/news/fp-street/royal-bank-of-canada-sued-by-reit-over-cmbs-margin-calls

>>18119650
They're certainly implying it with that headline.

>>18119631
I wish I could say which one did it. All I know is that at 2.9 million shares were mass sold at once. Which means someone unloaded a position rapidly.
I don't know who it was or which firm they represented. Just that the transaction happened. thinkorswim does NOT give that kind of information.

>>18119609
the world is a big place
as long as you
1) relax
2) keep your brain turned on
3) buy stocks

you will be better off than 95% of people
it really is that simple. most people try to get "clever" and fuck up a good thing

Noob here, would it be dumb to buy into one of major cruise lines (e.g. Royal Caribbean, Carnival, etc.) anticipating they will return to their previous highs in a year or two? I feel like the time to buy would’ve probably been a couple days ago, but it seems like there is still a chance to triple an investment.

>>18119659
European market should shit their beds really bad, but as you say, everything is connected and nobody cares

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>>18119479
As far as I'm concerned, Chinese state media stating over and over that the virus was a biological attack by the US military intentionally spread to Wuhan is 1cm short of a formal declaration of war. It's amazing that people aren't talking about that more. It's hard to imagine a better Casus Belli than a biological attack of the sort (a nuke i guess).

Xi probably asked Trump for permission to spread that rumor in order to keep people obedient to the government in China, and Trump must have said it's OK. Otherwise, things would not be this calm.

I... I can’t do this anymore anons. I’ve lost everything. My wife left me.

>>18119680
Don't buy a fucking thing because we're about to crash again my friend

>>18119680
Why would you invest in cruise lines instead of airlines?

>>18119670
I get it. Hopefully I enjoy this. Put $1,000 in an account and bought one share each in about 20 options. Some things I use daily , some research lead me to.

>>18119659
I wondered. Didn't really see anything out of the Eurozone. But then, I'm only just starting to hear about China again after a spell on the news wires. But I wondered if the same kind of bullshit was happening politically with people freaking out over businesses being closed and absolute retards trying to reopen before the virus peaks.

>>18119481
i bought norwegian a few dollars ago

>>18119687
The funny thing is the moral of that book is that immigrants are good because they make different kinds of food.

>>18119691
i hope this isn't real, how much fucking leverage have you used? dear fucking god

>>18119638
Woodn't be surprised to see us hit like 2610 then vacillate around 2575 for the rest of the night

>>18119645
it means the beaches are closed now cunt and we have nothing to fucking live for.

>>18119691
Based.
>>18119668
meant which people noticed it and were speculating

>>18119691
This can't be real

>>18119498
Maybe you could just sell naked options like everyone else, you moron.

>>18119680
I made thirty bucks off of CCL today.

>>18119737
My bad. Just other discussion sites. Hell even r/investing and r/wallstreetbets were discussing it. It's certainly anomalous as each time block during off hours trading has like 20 to 200 volume during that time. So 2.9 million stands out like a light

>>18119691
was the rush of placing those bets fun though? If I was a gambling addict, it's better to play the market than the casinos I guess.

>>18119680
>in a year or two
Just because something's getting a bailout doesn't mean it's going to survive. They can easily burn through the money and beg for another bailout where government takes equity and stocks go to 0.

>>18119691
You can pinpoint the time he got into YOLO r/wsb option stuff. That drop is magnificent

>>18119764
you only have to pay taxes on big wins at the casino, everything else is tax free baby

>>18119744
I literally can not do that as most/pretty much all brokers in Europe do not really allow that

CONSIDER

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>>18119767
I just don’t see that happening for anything except Delta, people are gonna travel and shit after this

>>18119762
Ah i see
Was looking for places that weren’t here or reddrt or Bogleheads to talk about all this.

Could it have anything to do with all that rebalancing that went on today perhaps?

>>18119797
Many wealthy and informed boomers are very scared. This has really woken them up to the contagion disaster of a cruise ship. I expect the demand for cruising to take a maaaaaajor hit, and I don’t know that the next generation are going to have the same desire to blow money on cruises. Hell, if this doesn’t get solved I might not go myself, I don’t want that lung damage.

>>18119680
Or they could go to zero. Yes, even if they got bailed out. Remember GM?

>>18119691
>My wife left me
Women, always faithful in good times

>>18119021
>So who's gonna star in the Big Short style movie about this crash?
Those guys only got their own movie because they were Jewish. Every character in that movie was a Jew, and normies don't even realize it.

>>18119976
You mean every hollywood movie ever?

>>18119985
yes but ask Cletus down the street if he realizes that half of all people he sees on the TV are Jews and he'll say it's a conspiracy theory that Jews control Hollywood if his NPC ass even knows what you are talking about to begin with.

>>18119579
Jayjay needs the juice for the brrrrrr machines

>>18117878
Don't be a Timmy

>>18119768
You can tell he was making small bets and losing as the shallow dip occurs. Then he started winning those small bets, levered up, and lost big. He kept thinking he could win it back, and had several successful plays followed by drops to new lows.