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I don’t respect women, bros

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so, is it really the time to buy calls on SPY ? at this point whats the argument for puts? they print whatever they want, might as well send SPY back to 400 and say how organically this market is working

>>18109030
Based

Bears really are on suicide watch, huh

We're getting bail out tomorrow. I'm taking my stimulus money and putting it all into a 10 year CD.

can someone explain why the fuck is it going up?

big ass cities are on lockdown, general populace is paranoid about catching a disease, unemployment is way up, less personal spending... by every sensible account this shit should be dropping hard.

>U.S. govt. starts to bail out multiple companies
>tfw the U.S. will eventually nationalize industry of all sorts to prevent something like this from happening ever again

w-what if WE are becoming the commies ;_;

>>18109030
fpbp

>>18109071
Welcome to the fed playground

>>18109071
Fed has unlimited money. Never bet against the Fed.

Expect a punishing dive on April 1st

WE DID IT BROS

Jerome is literally going to print the market back to 30,000 with absolutely no real economy supporting it

>>18109024
Can someone explain me what is the competition between bears vs bulls??

>>18109078
Then that would be based

>>18109078
Communist America vs Capitalist China? I'd pay to watch that.

Does really one single fucker believe that this ends april 1 ? I mean this is the dumbest statement trump ever dropped.

literally just 2008 all over again with exit scamming investors and index companies getting pumped before the real crash happens, where only your average poor person gets affected while rich become richer

good luck timing the peak and real crash

>>18109071
Supply and demand is fucked because of infinite QE

>>18109057
we have 4000 deaths a day from car accidents, who cares lmao

>>18109071
No

>>18109064
Stupid bears are. We go up for 8 hours and they try to time a 5 minute drop that might or might not happen to make their money instead of getting and securing the gains from the pump.

>>18109057
say. it. with. me.
BULL-ISH

>>18109071 PRICED IN !
Mass graves: bullish
Insolvent cities: bullish
Air traffic halt: bullish
Global trade war: bullish
Incel supremacy: bullish
TRUMP 2020
DOW 50,000 by 5/1

>>18109057
French numbers aren't true.

USA is so #1 that even when we're loudly dying we cant stop winning
U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A

>>18109119
lol .. april fools bro.. it was just a prank

>>18109098
even higher, thanks to the government stimulus package that's coming.

nhentai tag of the day:
infantilization

>>18109102
if you're bearish on something you think it's going to go down
if you're bullish on something you think it's going to go up

so of course 4chan turns that into pepes, frogs, and red team / green team spam

>>18109071
babby's first market. kys tourist

>>18109071
big guys are exit scamming before they dump it, just look at volume today

>>18109094
Biz media is being irresponsible with headlines like that. Even from technical perspective this is not a confirmed reversal. I would have gone long around noon today if it was, at least in so far as my TA is concerned.

>two weeks ago I was memeing that "lol buy Clorox because all the Essential oil Karens will be dropping their hippie bullshit and be so mentally scared they go back to big boy bleach for the rest of their lives"
>Proven absolutely right, but didn't take my own advice
Why am I like this?

lmao if all the downside signals are "priced in" how come the stimulus and QE aren't "priced in" preemptively? Policies are by far easier to predict than the virus and real economy and yet the market has not priced in all those signals?

>>18109130
This post is priced in.

>>18109071
trump won at the game of stonks

>>18109124
Worldwide. Coronavirus also killed 4000 world-wide today. Car accident stats don't change much but daily coronavirus deaths are still going up.

what country has the highest percentage of its population afflicted with bat aids

>>18109167
Thanks for the explanation! Do you think this will go down?

>>18109132
Why?

>>18109156
Very nice.

>>18109154
Me chinese. Me play joke. Me spread virus make you broke.

>>18109071
What makes you think the stock market has anything to do with the real world economy?

so what did we learn today? that the market is irrational? that everything was already "priced in", and /biz/ didn't understand this?

when you read /biz/ long enough you can see the movie idiocracy become reality so very clearly it's insane

>>18109176
Dude, i told everyone I know to sell on the big green day before the crash and I held all the way like some brain dead retard. Doctors shouldnt be in charge of treating themselves.

>>18109071
Boomer retards exit scamming the world to make their grandaughter buy a $25 gallon of milk while they grind away all these inflation gains in the last six months of their life hooked up to tubes on a hospital bed leaving their kids with nothing but a reverse mortgage to pay off and some memorabilia from the cruises they took with their fifth wife.
IM FUCKING HOLDING

>>18109189
>Worldwide
yeah you right, still dont care, still buying stocks

>>18109198
To absolutely nobody's surprise San Marino and the Vatican with 200 and 4 cases respectively.

>>18109198
Purchase and stock pile bat meat.
>>18109176
Also, still thinking of buying for that fat Divvy

>>18109198
Highest few are Vatican, San Marino, Iceland and Switzerland

>>18109202
I think it SHOULD go down but Fed fuckery is inflating what should have been a normal relief rally into a new coronabubble and idk when it pops

>>18109208
5000 thousand test daily, this is a fucking joke... And no material...

>>18109119
Didnt he say Easter? That's like april 12th I think. Still wont be better by then anyway.

let me explain why >>18109130

the economy is backed by people, decrease the supply of people, and the value of remaining people goes up. it's really that easy.

AHHHHHHHHH I SHOULDVE NEVER GONE ON /BIZ/

>>18109225
Hey retard, where are people buying 25 dollar milk you fuckhead? In imaginary doomer bear land?

These after hours moves up mean green tomorrow right ?

Lol, how is the fed allowed to do that? Isnt it just blatant market manipulation?

>>18109030

>>18109071
jerome's magic infinite pump, and fed is buying. don't believe it.
the big short 2 comes out in a few years.

should i capitulate on my puts ? should i join the fed circus?

BIG MONEY TO BE MADE IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS

I WANNA SEE YOU FAGS BECOME MILLIONAIRES

As soon as I buy a call I know the DJI futures are gonna tank red.

>>18109215
Today shows that the market IS rational

>>18109264
lol this one talks gay

How is India not above Iran or China levels of dead?

Are there better (free) screeners than the ones included in the OP? Finviz is so far off of real-time and tradingview is heavily paywalled.

>>18109225
>copebear pretending he's Michael Burry
You're nothing, you're a halfwit FOMO retard about to lose all his money.

>>18109225
that's why you should invest your money fren. there is still time to buy! :)

>Paul Tudor Jones: worse case scenario is 1 million cases
holy fuck, bulls are retarded

>>18109071
>can someone explain why the fuck is it going up?
Human psychology. We are entering the "defiant optimism" phase where reality denial is exercised to avoid fatigue. Everyone is sick of looking at the numbers going down so they are forcing them up, despite the fact that the economic impact hasn't even arrived yet. There might be another dive, there might not. What you can expect eventually is a slow failing climb as reality sets in and the bad news keeps trickling in over the next 12 months. We cannot just start back up again in a few months. Massive damage has occurred, the supply disruption hasn't hit hard yet, and earnings are going to be fucked for at least a few years while consumers and businesses recover. The bottom comes in 2021! Take a nap if you don't want to day trade in a slow-bouncing crab market

>>18109262
of course its green tomorrow the corona meme is over

>>18109275
please explain how

>>18109124

>>18109252
who would have thought that taking investment advice from anonymous children would be a bad idea

>>18109245
I saw that the FED proceed to "backup" the entire market just by BRRRin the shit out of it... I'm no expert but like you i think that will go down.

>>18109215
that infinite QE is literally coke for the market and, just like coke, an infinite QE addiction would destroy America

I'm shifting from short term bear long term bull into the reverse, these Fed pumps are super powerful but absolutely cancerous

what came in the fed balance sheet today?

Would you trust Ford with your life? Buy the Ford respirator today !

>>18109282
Infected later and I don't think they are testing as many people.

>>18109222
my lizard brain gut is always right and i never listen and i overthink

>>18109264
Just because there are now more bears than bulls doesn't mean the market will go down. It will go up to take the most money from the most people. And one day it will drop for no reason.

>>18109246
Well, all countries count cases differently. I heard there are about 40k mild cases not counted in France and about 40k classified as "asymptomatic infected" in China due to the wide-spread usage of fast antibody tests (even if you're cured you still test positive for antibodies)

>>18109213
still holding GME?

>>18109291
>There might be another dive, there might not.
Spring earnings season starts in a week and a half.

>>18109282
>don't test so no ones infected
Easy.

>>18109252
MSNBC and finance.yahoo have been saying a combination of "the worst us yet to come" or "motley fool issues rare triple double double buy it goyim alert [ad]"
Everyone was caught off guard

What happens if I buy some -3x etfs and hold them for a longer period? I know they are meant for short term but what is the issue with holding for a few days?

>>18109289
1 million cases isn’t a lot in a free society. We’re doing the best that we can without completely stripping the rights of American citizens.

I hate this shitty market
Tomorrow better be blood fucking red or I might actually kill myself

>>18109264
pump and dump is illegal. I too don't understand this bullshittery

>>18109321
It won't drop. They will just keep pumping. Complete world is on lockdown, but the markets have 3 (massive) green days in a row?

>>18109334
What makes you think people aren't expecting shit earnings by now?

I think this crisis will accelerate AI and Automation research. Robots can't get sick. What do I buy?

>>18109350
Bye bye bobo!

>>18109282
Southeast Asia and South Asia didn't get hit hard until after the European countries. They contained the initial spread from China pretty well. Countries like Indonesia are starting to get 10% death rate now so they'll blow up soon and India is probably not that far behind

>>18109355
It translates to everyone being sick of your shortselling FOMO Fudder nigger ass and we're going to pump until you get margin called like you deserve.

>>18109325
Yeah so you see the problem. Doctors start to die too. I don't expect any solution in the near future... Expect more crypto communism bullshit

>>18109350
futures imply another green day with +2% minimum

>>18109307
https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h41/current/h41.htm

THEY LITERALLY BROUGHT EVERYTHING.

>>18109291
amen

/biz/ is fun and all but I feel brain rot setting in. sure i'll keep looking at the news, but the plan is to buy your SQQQ NOW, hold it, and as things keep dropping sell off your SQQQ then swing to VTSAX or something. comfy

>>18109356
This upcoming batch of earnings will show exactly what impact January through mid-March had on revenue. Some companies will be surprise beats and pump hard, others will tank to fresh lows. Choose carefully or stay in cash.

>>18109326
I wish, I sold all my calls for other shit. My speculative position is the TLT puts right now. Yields will go back up and I'll make a few extra shekels. Got May first expirations too. It's going to be easy money.

>>18109344
read the prospectus

>>18109355
Yes and when Trump gets an impromptu press conference extends the lockdown because NYC won't be any less on fire it will go down because everyone prices in Trump's craziness that he will open up the country.

Some of you guys are going to miss the biggest run in the history of capitalism

>>18109135
top fucking kek

>>18109355
AMC has been slowly bleeding to death for the last 5 years and has a 10% growth in one day during what must historically be THE worst time ever to be a business that needs people packed closely together. This market is pure chaos and makes zero sense. AMC should be filing for bankruptcy, not having historic gains.

>>18109291
chart is outdated

>>18109334 PRICED IN !
Losses: BULLISH
Earnings surprises downside: BULLISH
Dividend Halts: VERY BULLISH
SSL up 50% today before profits taken.
P E R M A B U L L V SHAPE

i'm just going to go take a nap
forever

>>18109372
This is your future bearcuck

>>18109344
pumping and volatility are your enemy with things like SQQQ and SDOW. Only straight down bear style will make u big 1000000000+%gains
if you hold till the pumping stops, and then hold till the dumping starts... at some point in that dumping you can double triple quadruple what u put in.

I love seeing this, this is so fucking nuts it's great.
Never has the situation been so utterly fucked and never has the market been this disconnected from reality.
Hell it's even disconnected from oil, which is something it used to follow just few days ago.
The amount of people getting absolutely raped by the market is going to cause a never seen before tsunami of pink wojaks.
Idiots in the media saying this is a reversal and so many skittish bears fomoing into this, is going to cause legendary asspain during the next move down.

THE US IS FIRST AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

WHAT WILL DRUMPF SAY TO THIS

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>>18109384
They really did. >>18108750 Everything saw a huge spike in volume. Every sector. Every company.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>18109389
yeah makes sense except yields won't' go up for a few years

>>18109387
Kek no it won't you dumb faggot, if anything it will rally people more into a bull market. You think like a rational queer because we know your portfolio is sitting on a big red candle right now for being a dumb bear. Oooff!

I don't see anything wrong with this personally.

>>18109358
Data scientist here and I can tell you this is not going to happen, for AI to work you need representable data which you will not get during a crisis. Predictive modeling doesn't work for Black Swans. Just invest in food or masks.

>>18109291
There is literally nothing bad that can happen. The GDP shrink we will see is already priced in. Americans will literally work their fingers to the bone after they are allowed to start working again. We are going to see 30k EOY.
If you can’t see this, you literally have no idea how fucking industrious Americans are. We will outwork, outproduce, and outpace every country and we’ll brag about it all the way to the bank.

>tfw holding sqqq and spy puts

>>18109024
Anons, how do you judge which stocks to buy if real world numbers no longer affect it and EVERYTHING is propped up by the Ominssiah(QE)?

>>18109428
Imagine being this much of a retard and not realizing you are getting roasted for being a dumb greedy bear.

>>18109428
The good thing should be to buy things right now? Or to sit back and cry?

>>18109358
An education in robotics engineering.

>>18109390
okay so does this effect me much if I only hold them for a week or so?

>>18109401
Name?

>>18109264
source: dude just trust me

jesus christo

>>18109463
I'm bearish. I have some indexes and funds from last week that i'm hedging with inverse etfs from today.

>>18109443
less overhead is bullish

>>18109442
Sauce

>>18109461
>imagine being a bull
>entire world in lockdown
>people dropping dead everywhere
>health system overrun
Yes, I am going long!!!

>>18109389
how far you think it will drop?

>>18109486
Did you see today's last minute pump?

>>18109442
>we know your portfolio is sitting on a big red candle right now for being a dumb bear. Oooff!
I haven't shorted this crash at all to date. Only went long on oil for a bit. I'm all cash waiting for better clarification on my TA. I don't care which direction things go.

>>18109487
This means we are in recovery right?

Hello everybody, I'll be your technical analyst for the day!
I'm getting very bearish signals, the market might not be verifying it but just keep holding those puts, you won't regret it!

if the government can make the stocks go whatever way the want, regardless of whats happening in real world then - whats the point of it all?

>>18109503
Yeah, I'm thinking we're back.

>>18109456
Do you love losing money because right now you would be better off paying an Asian mistress with cute feet that you can call Mistress Corona while she gives you your money's worth in the finest of cock and ball torture. Trust me, this will make a much better investment speaking from experience as an ex bear.

>>18108729
Is there a public list of which equities soxl is based on? 3x isn't enough leverage for me. I'd like to buy leaps on the underlying companies.

I'd buy leaps on soxl but it seems like whenever I have bought calls on a triple leveraged ETF, the gains didn't compare to what I'd expect from just buying options on the unleveraged security.

E.g., spxs calls didn't seem to work as well for me as spy puts and I don't know why but I'm avoiding options on triple leveraged ETFs for now.

>>18109389
Yields will skyrocket, but when do you think the Fed will stop their asset purchases? QE Infinity may last for a long time.

>>18109518
It means everyone is basically becoming an employee of the Fed

>>18109525
Nope, coming back is already priced in

>>18109518
It means that nobody but the Federal Reserve knows where the market is going to go at this point. Anybody who tries to tell you otherwise is lying or talking out of their ass.

GALT, LCI, and SAVA!

>U.S. Dollar Tanks As Traders Worry About More Job Losses
>The U.S. dollar traded lower against all of the major currencies today after jobless claims topped 3.2 million. We’ve never seen weekly jobless claims at these levels before. They are more than four times greater than the prior high set in October 1982 and double the 1.5-million forecast.

>Market pumps fifth day in a row

>>18109530
Disgusting feet.
Try this
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5af001a672a1c

Uhhhh can someone hook me up with some memedicators and meme lines? SURELY we must be oversold by now... right?

>>18109503
Yeah, could've been FOMO, or bears shorting SPY getting margin called.

>>18109487
what's your point?

>>18109530
Sounds like a decent investment
Where did you find yours?

>>18109532
It's literally in the OP.

>>18109446
He meant money flowing into automation by big business will increase (I think it's already at max)

>>18109551
>watching porn

>>18109456

lmao i read one guy dropped 10k on sqqq

rofl

Bull trap.

>>18109487
What am I looking at

Eventually it'll pump to 29,500 again, whilst half of the country is unemployed and 2/3 of the worlds population is on lockdown

>>18109522
The point is all those times we made fun of commie China for fixing the price of stocks are now extra fun.

>>18109501
Imagine thinking this isn't already PRICED IN!
>it's not too late for bears to get returns on their money by booking an hr appointment with Mistress Corona

>>18109502
I'm waiting for it to fall 6% and taking my winners and moving onto the next trade.

if the fed unofficially took over the market, doesn't that mean the technical analysis rules get thrown out of the window?

>>18109547
It's simply inflation.

Anybody holds Dragerwerk(DRW3)?

"Drägerwerk AG is a German company based in Lübeck[2] which makes breathing and protection equipment, gas detection and analysis systems, and noninvasive patient monitoring technologies.[3] Customers include hospitals, fire departments and diving companies."

Up 12% today. Seems like one of those companies that make crazy amounts of money in times like this, considering buying tomorrow what do you guys think?

>>18109568
I can't be the only one that thinks this is absolutely based.

on one hand i dont mind if it goes up indefinitely but i wish it would go down so i could buy even more i still have like 30% of the money i reserved waiting for cheap stuff.

>>18109564
Return to mean

I respect bros, women

>>18109582
Drager makes a ton of SCBA and related equipments for firefighting and mining in addition to their healthcare ventilators. If I wouldn't get raped by foreign fees, I would have bought them years ago.

>>18109564
return to the mean

>still time for the US to beat the number of new cases in a day (currently 14k, China)

>>18109582
Didnt some German anon say they got a government contract for respirators last week?

>>18109564
what does the mean look like right now?

I'm guessing the fed can't keep this up for a month and a half without faltering but who knows. Captain's gotta go down with his ship y'know?

>>18109554
>Sounds like a decent investment
Where did you find yours?
Fetlife, it's like the Myspace for bdsm but filled with a lot more betas pretending their doms and financial dominatrix mistresses which is a fancy way of saying slaeneesh chaos prostitute.

>>18109547
Want to know why? Because you have companies trading at early 2000s prices while you retards are focused on broad indices. Real investors are seeing individual stocks bottoming out and are buying back in now, retail retards like you are obsessed with following unpredictable indices on leveraged funds.

Oil Chads fall in.

Anons i cant control my anxiety! Im scared asf about losing my money even though i know this is the easiest way for me to make money if I make the right plays and dont act recklessly. Yet here i sit nervous, shaking, and stomach making noises at random which has resulted in bloody poops in the past (does this when i have huge anxiety and or stress). Need to calm this anxiety.

>>18109605
not going to happen, we've been practicing social distancing and using the task force's 15 days to slow the spread guidelines.

>>18109633
>Real investors are seeing individual stocks bottoming out and are buying back in now
Trading volumes does not agree with this

>>18109593
>>18109603
Not even close

>>18109635
>tfw going long on Suncor and Exxon

>>18109635
US is threatening to sanction Saudi Arabia. There's no future for oil

>>18109640
you're about 400 cases away from the record if youre to beat it today

>>18109638
what the heck get a prescription for some beta blockers or something

>>18109638
You're positions sizes are too large. You need to start with amounts you feel comfortable with and slowly move up as you gain more experience.

>>18109638
Just calm down anon.

>>18109633
>Real investors are seeing individual stocks bottoming out

>>18109635
Here, here.

>>18109633
Which decent equities are trading at early 2000’s prices?!

>China 81k
I will never not be mad at this bullshit.

>>18109647
I don’t take analysis from phonefags seriously

>what a fucking ride this has been
>you were here to witness history
>and the worst isn't over yet

>>18109638
*Swing low, sweet chariot *

>>18109582
they make gas stuff
Fun story, when the first ascent of Everest happened, the British had brought along O2 equipment made by British companies and also some made by Draeger. For the ascent climb, they ended up using the Draeger equipment because it was less likely to fail in the freezing temps
https://www.draeger.com/Corporate/Content/the_history_of_draeger_1.pdf

>>18109651
That would be exactly why it would go up

>>18109627
>slaeneesh chaos prostitute
this some sort of warhammer thing?

>>18109635
>mfw HAL and XOM

>>18109668
>TA
I don't take you seriously

>>18109638
Please talk to a doctor about your bloody poops. TotalBiscuit died that way.

>>18109606
Did a quick google search:
"The Drägerwerk share remains one of the most sought-after shares on the German price list in the midst of the Corona crisis. Because the company manufactures important ventilators, most recently the federal government placed a large order with the Lübeckers. Hauck & Aufhäuser is reacting in the form of an upgrade."

so i think so

>>18109642
>>18109605
If you think about it.. people with jobs that are "essential" are the ones at risk going out and about.. meaning non essential people won't get infected.. how will this really play out? i mean.. if all the essential people get exposed then what? we're going to rely on the non essential people to carry this society? I say shut it all down.. pools closed

>>18109672
for selfish gains i hope ur right.

>>18109672
Worst is over

also,
WHERE is DRUMPF conference???!

>>18109443
Absolutely based

FUCK landlords
During the 2008 crisis our landlord refused to lower our rates, our business went under, and that lot has been empty for more than a decade
He owned a dozen properties so he didn't care if ours went under, guy wasn't even a jew he was a blonde headed fuck, I hope he blew his brains out but he probably just cashed out on the properties

>>18109672
>the worst isn't over yet
I hope so but it seems increasingly unlikely. We might have missed the dip of a lifetime because of the Fed's interference this week.

I am beginning to think that the VI is basically a shitpost index. The higher it has gone the more transplants from other boards that come here to larp and force memes.

>he bought?

>>18109651
Wouldn't that be good for US oil companies?

>>18109678
>this some sort of warhammer thing?
Don't you know what time line you are living in?

>>18109539
> nobody but the Federal Reserve knows where the market is going to go at this point
lol did you forget Ackman recently making 2.6b from 27m right at the bottom?
niggas know

>>18109642
Today's volume is completely within the range of volume we've been seeing across the entire month of March.

>>18109703
Not listening to that orange retard anymore

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-balance-sheet-tops-5-210852141.html
This fucking shit should be motherfucking illegal.

>>18109572
"Priced in" literally just means "I have no argument" now, you niggers have removed any meaning it once had, not that anyone on /biz/ could even tell you how to calculate it

>>18109564
The bubble theory doesn't work for this situation in the way you think.

>>18109712
it won't be red tomorrow. if this is gonna dump, it will be on tuesday. more people baited in on a friday and over a weekend. then squeeze shorts out on another pump monday. then dump on tuesday for big gains

>>18109633
Nobody bought back so far except buybacks via short term loans and bail outs of companies.

But hey as long as you are happy. :)

>>18109701
>>18109709

Go look at the updated covid numbers. We have zero chance of slowing.

>>18109737
the arguments have been priced in, retard

>>18109693
>The White House is working to release federal social distancing guidelines that may advise some regions to loosen restrictions, President Donald Trump wrote in a letter to the governors of all 50 US states.

It's only going to get worse for you. all the non-essentials will be back at work soon, so everyone will have it. i seriously worry for you guys long term. i genuinely think most of the world will have seen the worst of it while you're still getting worse and worse. remember that trump chose economic dick swinging over your health (and lives) when november comes around :)

I just started investing last week with a $200 portfolio, the most I could afford. I had to wait a week for e-trade to clear my funds for some dumb reason.
I had to pay a brokerage fee of $7 on one of my trades for reasons unknown to me, it was a different sort of stock I guess.
Anyways, despite that my portfolio is now worth $237 for basically no risk, but all I feel is anger because DIS is recovering so fast, my other stock is creeping up too fast, and I won't have investable funds until next week because muh biweekly paycheck bullshit, and then probably another week to clear those.
Still, I'm hoping the market will stay a little bearish until the pandemic's actually over....r-right guys?

>>18109735
haha money printer go brrr

>>18109693
what if donald drumpf engineered the virus to finally drain the swamp once and for all

>>18109735
HOLY SHIT

>>18109751
Real life has nothing to do with the stock market.

>>18109751
Testing is increasing, not infection rate

>>18109727
Not sure, probably the worst one.
Does it have something to Do with vidya or tabletop?

>>18109737
its a good thing. It will stop newfags from thinking they can get rich by yoloing into options or picking muh favorite stock "just needs to go lower, 20% drop isnt low enough"

>3 billion people locked down not working
>market recovers at heroic pace

So this means those people were never needed in the first place right?

if it goes up tomorrow again then I open short before market closure, I mean the FED can't just pump SP500 to 3300 with global recession in full force, or can it

Burry Tier:
>Quadruple Leveraged OTM puts picked up in early january which expire in jan 2021
High Tier:
>ITM puts which expire in september
OK Tier:
>OTM puts which expire in july
>Break Even Tier
OTM puts which expire before may
>Oof Tier:
OTM puts which expire before april 8th
>$ROPE Tier:
All calls not closed in the next two weeks

>>18109775
OH WOW BECAUSE BOTH CAN'T BE INCREASING RIGHT

>>18109735
they bought the dip
they can sell back the assets that they bought for a profit
just like what happened in 2008
you can get as mad as you want lol

>>18109057

>>18109751
2 million confirmed infections would equal severity of annual flu in usa

lol we're going so fucking red on monday

>>18109757
Italy's average age of corona death is 80 fucking years old, the only people in danger haven't even been working for 20 years.

>>18109737
STOP PLAYIN! I did throw you bears arguments all last week why this week would be green but you guys called me retarded. Who knows how long this pump will go for but I'll tell you what fucker, I got mine and that's all I care about. I don't have to explain shit. If you guys are dumb that's on your parents and the public schools you went to.

>>18109564
Bulltrap prevented by a bailout.

>>18109783
no, fast food, coffee, and smart phones are not needed

>>18109786
that is literally the multi-trillion dollar question.

>>18109612
Like the light blue thick line.

>bears complaining because they once again convinced themselves we were nowhere near the bottom
Classic.

Burry Tier:
>Quadruple Leveraged OTM puts picked up in early january which expire in jan 2021
High Tier:
>ITM puts which expire in september
OK Tier:
>OTM puts which expire in july
Break Even Tier
>OTM puts which expire before may
Oof Tier:
>OTM puts which expire before april 8th
$ROPE Tier:
>All calls not closed in the next two weeks

>>18109786
The market taking off life a rocket when literally all market indicators are bad to awful means that the Fed has removed any coupling whatsoever between the market and the economy.
It is just a lottery or, more probably, just a ponzi scheme at that point.

>>18109783

>no paychecks for the lower parts of society
>all of these people are consumers
>consumers have no money
>why is no one buying our goods
>why is our revenue down

>>18109767
maybe china was in on it

What oil stock should I buy? Serious request for advice please.

>>18109803
No we arent. Fed will just keep pumping. How else are trumps hotels going to survive. Or how else is trump going to win the reelection?

>>18109811
prevented or delayed

>>18109803
nope

>>18109554
>oversold
Overbought? Not really.

>>18109797
So US government comes up with all those retarded rules for individual investors, but has essentially unlimited margin and debt ceiling to buy stocks?

What stops the fed from just printing enough money to buy the entire economy and turn US into a corpo-feudal state?

>>18109454
>this guy still thinks we live in a white Protestant country
America is a big pie of white jewish and Asian taxes fought over by the third world, the recovery will take 10 years and money will be worthless at the end of it

>>18109651
>There's no future for oil
We'll I guess there's no future for, cars, plains, electricity, central heating and basically our entire modern infrastructure....... Soon people will be giving away oil for free!!! And then when the price of oil goes negative, then the gas station will pay YOU to fill up on gas!!!!!!
You guys need to get your heads out of your asses and buy oil. Do you see how delusional you are?

>>18109838
Any big names. Avoid smaller companies.

>>18109849
>What stops the fed from just printing enough money to buy the entire economy and turn US into a corpo-feudal state?
That was literally what they announced before Monday

>>18109811
bull traps are a myth
as long as you always buy the right stocks at the right prices, the timing is inconsequential

>>18109786
lol they can and they will. Everyone is fully aware of it and I am pretty sure how trump will tweet how there are new all time highs with the entire world on lockdown

>>18109838
easy oil

some company that does not do too much fracking or any activity which relies on the price of oil being consistently high

1-3 re3 demo
5-7 ff7r demo
4,8,9,0 bloodstained

>>18109834
>consumers have no money
So same as before the virus?

>>18109858
The media is trying to convince people to miss out on the chance of a lifetime. Millionaires will be made during the oil rebound and they don't want anybody to participate in it.

It will go back down...it has to....

>>18109635
I sold earlier today. No momentum.

>>18109651
>US is threatening to sanction Saudi Arabia. There's no future for oil
Bobos are so fucking dumb.

>>18109802
But with a flu, we know what to expect and how to combat it.
We don't know shit about Wuhan Virus

>>18109777
Come on Anon, you know the answer to this. It's the worst of both. The best is to be prepared for anything at this point.

Anyone else scroll back to 2008-2009 to compare price movement to today? Those daily candles look like a sunday picnic

>>18109881
There's this thing called credit cards

>>18109881

Ok you're simply too stupid to have this conversation.

Why is GME popping off AH? what good news has been released?

>>18109809
>Based upon available information to date, those at high-risk for severe illness from COVID-19 include:
>People of any age with severe obesity (body mass index [BMI] >40) or certain underlying medical conditions, particularly if not well controlled, such as those with diabetes, renal failure, or liver disease might also be at risk
>The prevalence of obesity [in the US] was 42.4% in 2017~2018.
you're fucked. it's easier if you just accept it.

>>18109847
oops yeah overbought

Well shit. I don't know what the fuck to do with all these short positions and cash.

>>18109880
I wonder if this shit will work on my puter

>>18109775
Thanks for your clairvoyance

>bull market

>>18109558
Indeed I understand that but for what are you going to use if there is sporadic production. You can't build an AI to predict the future right now, which is exactly what they are meant for. Some small models for example for crops will be created but don't expect miracles right now in that field unless you're considering defense.

>>18109865
>buy the right stocks at the right prices, the timing is inconsequential
based retard

>>18109651
>US is threatening to sanction Saudi Arabia.
>There's no future for oil
Anon... those statements are contradictory.

>>18109849
>What stops the fed from just printing enough money to buy the entire economy and turn US into a corpo-feudal state?
The remnants of the Founding Fathers and their Constitution

>>18109839
+

>>18109809
+

>>18109786
What do u think, m8?

>>18109651
CL 40c Jun'20. You will be very rich.

>>18109791
testing != infections you monolithic dong-burdened brapper

>>18109889
if you think the current oversupply will be sold by 4 fuckin irrelevant senators you just prove how dumb bulltards really are

>>18109917
You fucking realize Jew York holds like 50% of America's cases of corona right now?

>>18109902
the worst of both what?
>>18109908
earnings I think

>>18109917
that might be overpreperation for the absolute worst...

>>18109934
you're saying I should buy MORE colgate after this pump??

>>18109849
It isn't in their mandate.
Their mandate is both simple and clear: reasonable employment and monetary supply.

In times like this, their actions might seem confusing if someone doesn't have an understanding of monetary policy or turbulent market mechanics.

The Fed hasn't made any significant equity purchases yet, because buying stocks at this time is not necessary for their mandate. They have purchased other instruments, for specific and correct reasons.
They might not purchase equities, or they might.

>>18109917
>autopsies
LMAO they still think there will be time to do autopsies

>>18109917
>New York
>New York and California have 90% of all cases in the US
Today these people are gonna find out there are 48 other states in the country

The effects of coronavirus on the economy, employment, global trade and travel are roughly equivalent to a nuclear bomb being dropped on Rotterdam or Singapore

>>18109811
maybe the bailout IS the bulltrap? did you ever consider that? NO, you fucking didn't.

>>18109917
More bad news? nice. another +5% tomorrow and on monday then!

>>18109786
>the FED can't just pump SP500 to 3300 with global recession in full force, or can it
they absolutely can if they want to

they can pump this bubble to mars like they're fucking elon musk

>>18109966
LOL. right

>>18109917

Bodies in the street are BULLISH

>>18109944
One well-placed bullet could end the price war in an instant and it will probably come from one of MBS' own men.

>>18109957
>the worst of what
Everything

>>18109957
i thought earnings was april 10th... they must've changed the date. im happy tho! got 30 contracts each for .01

>>18109838
FANG

>>18109963
48 flyover states lol

>>18109297
By being devilishly bullish when you need to be, and selling before the market decides to be a bear.
There are going to be some bit trough to peaks which translates into serious gains if you have a mix of luck and skill.

Manage your risk, Invest, and profit off of suckers before the market turns against you. Bullcucks are perfect for selling out of a bubble at a good price.

Seems like a relief rally but we have no idea if it dumps and then goes into weeks or months of recession.

Given how hard the fed hit the gas I don't know how long it takes to get to peak or if recession time ends as soon as corona does.

If Trump fucks this up bad enough the virus could spread to more than 50% of the population and then mostly burn itself out... Only to come back (more gradually) for the remaining people once social distancing ends.

>>18109966
>More bad news? nice. another +5% tomorrow and on monday then!
>>18109974
>LOL. right

>>18109969
Look how pissy the JPM banksters are acting

Papa Powell is dropping his big steel cojones on the anvil!

>>18109917
>80k cases only 1k deaths

>>18110004
have fun still holding puts tomorrow :)

>>18109963
>>18109948

California and New York account for most of the US GDP and economy retards. New York accounts for most of the US financial market.

DRUMPF CAME OUT

>>18109656
Ehh no i know that stuff can mess with ur mind. Im more so scared i missed the dip and have worthless puts.

>>18109657
Trimmed it a bit on a profitable one that makes up for some loss.

>>18109658
Thanks fren.

>>18109674
Huh?

>>18109689
Doctors already know about it. They just give me useless medication. They want to also do a gi which is pointless as I know others whove had it and all they get is stronger meds at best. Anyways mine is clearly caused by stress and anxiety as it became evident a while back. Seemed to be caused by food at first but that was likely me tricking myself into it being irritable food. Once I realized that i ate junkfood galore...no issues. Hmmm talking about it calmed me down, thanks fren.

>>18110011
>have fun still holding puts tomorrow :)

>>18109963
If the economy was based on the shithole flyover states in the rust belt, the Dow would already have hit zero

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o7nryuJao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o7nryuJao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o7nryuJao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o7nryuJao

>>18109995
>mix of luck and skill.
>luck

Right one thing. Not sustainable over the long run

"Coronavirus vaccine approved by FDA"
>Dow drops 4,400 points in a single session

>>18110004
>I still haven't figured out how the market PRICES THINGS IN
WHY ISN'T THE ECONOMY CRASHING MORE OVER CORONA?!?!?! DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO WORK?????

>>18109990
>>18109908

>>18110028
Without all the shithole flyover states your cities would crumble in under a couple weeks.

>>18109522
>whats the point of it all?
There isn't one.
They might as well push the dow to 85k in a day, because why not?
We're witnessing the end stages of the current economic system in the US.
This unsustainable debt fuckery is dying in front of our eyes and US is taking communist tier action to prop things up.
If they pump the market up to new heights and it's clear the real life has no effect on it, no one is going to have any faith in the market in the future.
More and more people are going to see the facade for what it is and then the dollar is fucking dead.
Why invest in the US if their economy is even more of a paper tiger than China?
It won't go to new heights though, this market will tank to 10k.

>>18109994
We're gonna fly over you while you're in quarantine.
>>18110014
People in those sectors are working remote. The damage being done is to retail workers in every state for the fuck up that is new York and California.
>>18110028
Cope harder coofer.

>>18110020
just try a different pooping position, don't strain
bloody poops are always because you're straining your little butt too hard to get the poops out

>>18110024
you are really dumb if you think it's going to drop tomorrow or next week, have fun losing more money

>>18110038
Work set you free

>>18109987
god damn it I never should've sold or went short this was fucking retarded.

why the fuck is trump reading all the names out lmao

>>18109098
Just remember to short next time the 10 Year Treasury bond yield falls below the 3 month Treasury yield.

i dunno what to think

FUTURES UP, FUTURES UP, FUTURES UP

>>18109995
You really think we'll keep this chaos for the next several months?

I'm trying to predict the stages of a recession/depression: 1. Crash 2. Relief rally 3. Slow decline and figure out how to prep for them before most people do.

Right now we're bull but how to prep for a slow decline? Tbh I don't even know if there will be one if fed overpumped. Maybe we get a slow sideways or slow incline period instead of a slow decline.

In any case, it seems like the great depression and great recession were 1. High volatility dump phase, 2. Sharp relief, 3. Slow period that seemed to have less daily price variance.

I wonder what vix would have been during those low variance days of phase 3. in great depression/recession. Maybe buyint vix puts with dates from 6-12 months out is the right play?

>>18110031
High skill can still yield bad results. You can do everything right and still lose.
80% probability can still fail, even though it was a calculated good decision.

IS HE GONNA MENTION THEY'RE THE FIRST IN CASES?

>>18110069
He's gonna read out all the people that died today from coronavirus

>>18109840
Ah, delayed; correct.
Deff, delayed. Next market crash will be even worse! Give it 5 years.

>>18110014
>California and New York account for most of the US GDP and economy retards.
>New York accounts for most of the US financial market.
They also account for most of the countries debt and have pants on head retarded policies and are known for being corrupt and dead weight. Trust me the rest of America won't miss them.

>pic related this is what bears look like right now over jerking it to Corona

>>18110069
No clue but he sounds just exhausted and out of breath.

>>18110059
>you are really dumb if you think it's going to drop tomorrow or next week, have fun losing more money

>>18110031
It's absolutely consistent if you are making bets with positive expected value and using the Kelly criterion to size your bets so you don't go broke. That's how pro poker players make money.

>>18109564
We're in an inverted bubble right now so flip that puppy upside down then I'll listen

>>18110100

>>18110070
do you have a chart for the 30yr Treasury ?

>>18110024
>>18110100

>bears think a retrace to 2016 is not enough
>bears think 30% right off the ATH is not enough
>bears think an entire month of record-breaking drops is not enough
>bears think unprecedented QE is going to have no effect despite similar measures ending the financial crisis
>bears think 50% of the US population will die to a flu
>bears think an apocalypse hasn't been priced in yet
>bears think their last-minute SPY puts aren't an overdone thesis

>>18110092
*coof*

>>18110126
>>18110126
>>18110126
new

HE'S A WISE GUY. WE MADE SURE HE WOULDN'T BE SO MUCH ANYMORE

TRUMP KILLED HIM CONFIRMED

>>18110118
Seriously, these guys are fucking retarded.

>>18110100
>bear cope this bad

>>18110110
>

>>18110057
It's likely my intestines. The gurgling noises I get when im anxious or stressed seem to come from there. Really annoying that my anxiety and stress can cause something so annoying. Gets bad if I can't manage it well enough where it manifests into an actual physical ailment.

>>18110082
The slow declines can be offset by bailouts and government intervention; Hence V pattern recoveries. These, themselves, cannot last forever, though.

>>18110082
Nobody has any idea what the market is going to do. It's possible the fed just props it up and it is also possible that things get bad, confidence falls, and it dips.
In my opinion it's a higher than normal risk market because it is uncertain. You have the potential to win big or lose big. The winners will obviously say they knew all along what was going to happen but they are just lucky idiots if they think they can predict the future.

>>18110043
thats 30k shares for the price of 30 bucks. pretty neat huh

>>18109454
Nice b8, but nobody is retarded enough to believe this

>>18110072
imagine if we fall under the 10y MA....
boomer retirement cancelled

>>18110167
have you tried microdosing

>>18110105
you can use any criterion you want. The fact remains that over the long term, the average investor would not be well suited to pick stocks

>>18110167
>actual physical ailment
Besides the blood. Intestines get inflammed or something like gastritis. Real annoying as it lasts for over a week. Had it for years and all i get is some useless pills that id have to take for life that dont actually do anything because it doesnt treat the underlying issue, the anxiety and stress.

>>18109849
>>18109960
>reasonable
We're way pas reasonable when the Fed prints 25% of US GDP in a week.

>>18109071
I sold my CCL for a gain. Holding this one long term now with all this shat a happening is risky as hell. One bad thing leaks out, wham, your fucked. Better to make some money at least rather than lose money.

>>18109024
Actually the positive cases in Italy are 62013, you have to exclude the dead ones and the healed

>>18110206
>microdosing
What is that? Drugs?

>>18109347
My small town just got locked down. Criminals are being freed from prison. Cops have been ordered to stand down and raiding parties are being formed. Groceries are out of canned and dry foods. No tp or cleaning products on the shelves. Events unpaid, mortgages suspended, car loan payments missed,credit card payments missed.
>its all priced in, bro.
source?
>trust me

>>18110232
If they didn't keep the bond market / mortgage market / banks moving, then instead everyone would be saying "why didn't the Fed do anything?"

It's very easy to criticize them, especially normies and /pol/ types will gobble it up because they have no understanding of how the financial system works,
The system is still functioning properly because the Fed took the proper actions at the proper times. Could they have achieved the same thing with a few hundred billion dollars less or more? sure.
By the way, the amount currently on their balance sheet (I think that is what you are referring too with the 25% GDP) was not all added in the past week...

>>18110306
Tiny bit of psychoactives.

>>18110091
If the midwest became its own country it would still be the most powerful country in the world.

>>18110306
if you're not staying calm it's fucking with your whole shit
now there could be some dietary reason, or it could all be in your head
regardless, there are plenty of things that you can take to calm you down and keep your mind state right, but you might not have the best of luck at the doctors office.
Just keep your dosage low, and try different things until it feels right

>>18110404
this is true, midwest chads are unstoppable
we need to build a wall and keep the coastal trash out
mountain chads are also OK

12 MINS LADS

His stock price keeps a climbing higher even with the virus shat. His divvy is safe and well covered from getting the ax. He is giving the virus the middle finger. Why don't you just let Him save you now while you still got a chance and let His fat divvy keep you warm and content during your golden retirement years. (Aside; You should've bagged DIS when it shat down to low 80's also)

>>18110342
The only thing this does is give money to the ultra rich bankers who know how to abuse the system with special access and us peons are left with a worthless dollar. All these banks should be restructured and new laws preventing the same shit that we ALREADY DID IN 2008 FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. But no.

This major cucking might just turn around. We've gone up $14 every day since the market started recovering. If this keeps up I'll be at strike in a little over 4 days. Please...

>>18110481
well some of the parts of your post are rather generalized

But conceptually I do agree that there is too much asset price inflation. But that is something that should be countered on the ride back up, not when stocks are crashing and unemployment is spiking.
I think that the Fed is listening to people saying what you're saying, but most of the burden is on federal and state governments to set up the "rules" of the economy in a certain way, to increase competition and things like that.
The fed is supposed to keep the money flowing at as even a rate as they can, and they did a better job in 2020 than in 0809 (so far)

>>18109969
>they can pump this bubble to mars like they're fucking elon musk
At this point would it be fair to not call it a bubble anymore? If the Fed has an unlimited ammo cheat code activated, how can the equities market possibly fail?

Oh well at least my 2400 is on it's way and no mater what at least I'll still have a job and get paid. Shit like this makes me glad I'm a state worker. Private sector, I'd be outta work now sitting on my ass at home dealing with unemployment paperwork shit (yeah I know its all online but still, paperwork is paperwork)

>>18110584
>that should be countered on the ride back up
Yes, SHOULD. But we already did this rodeo in 2008 and they didn't do shit on the way back up and now its got us here, in the same spot, but worse.

What are they going to do? Make foreclosure illegal? Make firing people illegal? Indefinite universal basic income? Free loans forever? Who pays for it? How long will that last? Until every dollar is worthless and every peasant is starving?

Well a bit of bad and good news. Since march 20th to today Ky went from 63 cases to now 248 of the virus. The good news if you will is that just 5 people have died. So still very lucky compared to over states. It's now in the low 70's so hopefully it'll stay that way for a while and maybe stem the virus spread or outright kill it.

>>18110752
>>18110580
>>18110580
>>18110580
USA NUMBA ONE! WOOHOOOOOO! WE BEAT CHINA WE'RE REALLY NUMBA ONE NOW!!!

Whats your oil guys take on XOM, staking it all on the Permian basin?