/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18107915
push it king. the cattle have been fattened and now we take our rightful share

>>18107915
do it then faggot

>>18107915
Fuck you asshole

the reputation you lose now won't be worth the temporary gains

>>18108201
You mad wagie, maybe I’ll raise it $200

>>18107915
You should demand them to pay the next month in advance as well, just for insurance in case the corona situation gets worse

>>18107915
Fuck off, you cancer

Lmao where I'm from you can only legally raise it like 3% a year you stupid douche.

10% is always a good raise, make it 15% if the filthy peasants are becoming uppity.

>>18107915
>he thinks he can raise the rent on the lease agreement
have fun with your vacancies next year, ivan

your gay threads aren't gonna stop the tenant revolution, bro :/

so many people LARPing as landlords recently

>>18108201
>>18108811
>>18109436
>>18109462
If we are going to listen to your ideas and take them seriously, can you please clarify who will be the low skill workers in a new socialist or anarchist system? How does society operate, and to what goal?

Can you fully clarify "each according to his ability, to each according to his need" to us, for example?

Here's a question. What if my "needs" are for you to be available to make a hamburger for me 24 hours a day while I sit at home and trade, not working? Is this accounted for in your system other than some "bash porky" LARP?

How about some intelligent discussion for a change instead of all these cheap bait raids? This isn't /pol/. You purport to be educated in critical theory, sociology, philosophy and so on - so let's hear it?

>>18109488
it's what they do in lieu of not having an actual argument in favor of landlords and getting owned by the "communists"

>>18107915
up it by $400 and salvage all the copper in the walls for maximum gainz

>>18107915
>raising rent on good tenants
>ever

Rent hikes are for fags I want out. Tenants who pay on time and don’t shit up my unit are locked in for as long as I can manage it.

>>18108201
Oh yeah, I really need a fucking 'reputation' to sell a scarce basic necessity. What are you gonna do without me, live in a fucking cave?

>>18109545
>not raising rent by 1900% because a Big Data company is opening up a new campus within three hours commute
never going to make it

>>18109179
just introduce some actors you've paid and let them tour the property and let the current tenant hear that they would be willing to rent it for 2.5 times the current rent. Then your tendies will beg to stay and accept paying double the rent next year's contract

>>18109516
Henry George predicted never-ending real estate bubbles popped up by cheap credit in the year 1879.

Markets will keep destabilizing and collapsing until we head his advice and capture the unearned incremental value of land.

OP even if you're not LARPing you're definitely a faggot. Rooms for rent are going to be decreasing in value, not increasing, because there's going to be less people able to pay the prices as this situation goes on. What the government should have done instead of only giving 1000 bucks to people is offer negative property tax and maybe supplementary subsidies to landlords and property management firms in exchange for suspending collections. That way fixed costs for these businesses and individuals can be taken care of while relieving the people who depend on the rented space, whether it's some useless grievance studies major in a $1000/month studio, a McDonald's worker doing his best not to explode from overtime, the guy who owns and operates the McD franchise that poor sap works at, or the Cheesecake Factory.

Of course you probably didn't think about any of that since you're LARPing.

So me and my fiancee both own our own houses and once married we are gonna build a new one for ourselves and rent out the two other houses. How should I go about figuring out how much rent to charge? My house is 1050 square feet 3 bedroom 1 bathroom.

>>18109516
>who will be the low skill workers in a new socialist or anarchist system?
Everyone who needs low skill work done.

> What if my "needs" are for you to be available to make a hamburger for me 24 hours a day while I sit at home and trade, not working?
That’s fine, you will show up to the farm when you get hungry. And everyone who worked on the farm will ask: Where the fuck where you all day?

>>18110979
it's gonna be dependent entirely on your area. Can you give a ballpark GPS coord?

>>18111121
Winnipeg is all I'm comfortable saying. Not shitty area but not overly great

My renters' contract ends in 6 months and I'm thinking if the economy is still bad and they've treated the place nicely I won't raise rent, just let them move to month to month. Then I'll raise it when they leave. I'd rather have nice renters who pay on time and don't break shit than these rent strike cretins I'm seeing on social media.

I also only rent to government employees so that probably helps, heh.

>>18111162
with such a broad stroke the best I can say is try and find listings for similar offerings in your immediate area and expand your search outwards to get an idea of the market price. You might be able to fiddle with your offering depending on how nice of an upkeep you think you've done on your property but in general people just want to find a place to hole up in for the night so try and be competitive with the surrounding homes/rooms. Specific location is huge though because obviously your house or room is going to look more attractive if it's right next to a shopping center within walking distance or provides good proximity to say, a college or university, or even a bus stop depending on how important public transit is in your locale (which admittedly is very unattractive in current times).

>>18111162
as a disclaimer I'm saying this as a renter in the bay area in California and as a stakeholder in the valley, so things may be totally different where you're at and people might value different things. These are just my observations of the market here. You don't have places like Google or the next quick-to-burnout startup springing up in Winnipeg in all likelyhood.

>>18107915
now that the economy is better (just watch any news station), raising the rent makes sense.

>>18109629
Gilroy please stop. Just be a garlic farm, don't turn into a suburb of Silicon Valley. Also reopen your fucking mall I want to go shopping and everything closer sucks.

>>18111446
Lol no not much of that happening in winnipeg

>>18110979
>>18111162
I started with 10% of what I paid for my house ($120k, so I charged $1200/mo). This was against the advice of my rental management company which wanted something lower to get tenants in faster, but I found tenants immediately anyway. They stayed for two years and I forgot to raise rent at the one year mark, then left. By that time rents in the local area had risen so I bumped it up a notch when friends moved in, to 1250, which was still under prevailing rents, and then when they left I kicked it up to $1400/mo. The house is now valued at like $165k so in theory I could raise the rent more but I'd rather keep my good tenants than max out profit.

If that sounds like a lot, just see what the zestimate on zillow is for rent for your property and go with that.

>>18107915
Enjoy your insurance premiums skyrocketing, on account your properties destroyed. Security deposit? You already lost it after months of getting tenants out.

>>18111658
>120
You overpaid guaranteed

>>18107915
All this fake /leftypol/ posting trying to get people upset is so fucking dumb. No one has ever talked about realestate on here and it just happens to be while they are telling their minions to spam post everywhere about rent strikes.

>>18111065
>That’s fine, you will show up to the farm when you get hungry
Yeah, and that right there is why your system is nothing more than a delusional, power fantasy LARP that will never EVER happen, and nor are we converging towards it. No chance in hell.

Even if we find ourselves in "late capitalism" right now, what comes next is a far cry from anything Marx predicted, and nor is anarchy within the realms of possibility either. Try hypercapitalism.

While you lefties sat around wanking over critical theory for the past century and trying to be subversive, thinking that art, hearts and minds was the answer, the truth is that humanity evolved into something far beyond human, far beyond anything Marx could have saw coming. Your side has no answers anymore. You can't seize the means of production because the labourers are now the production line themselves.

In short, Hegel was wrong, Marx was wrong, and you're not a revolutionary, you're just an NPC in the game.

Now flip the burger.

>>18107915
10% is not enough desu. The crisis is kicking in and we landlords have needs too. With the current situation i advise you to raise it up about 35%, that's a fair amount.
Don't forget you can cut electricity and tape water if the tenants aren't willing to comply, i do it everytime i want to enforce a raise and it always work after few hours.
If they start to whine about muh poor muh unemployment, don't hesitate to tell the man to prostitute his wife/daughters (even to you if they are hot) to pay.
I recently transformed one of my building in a brothel this way and it's doing great!

>>18111848
> Social media companies means capitalism has gone transhuman

I know you're getting off on talking shit on critical theory, but deleuze and guattari wrote about unpaid labor like forty fucking years ago you mong

When this shit collapses it'll be the same old battle -- socialism or barbarism, as per Arendt

>>18107915
you love your building so much? then die with it

>>18112172
>then die with it
nigga you just burned down your pad so you could dab on the landlord
bet your roommates aren't too happy about it either

>>18111942
>>18111942
I actually enjoy a lot of critical theory, particularly D&G in fact, but doesn't mean I'm delusional enough to believe in this false tradition of world-spirit that so much of this is built upon. I only talk shit because you lefties are so fucking delusional and I'm tired of you guys shitting up this board with this forced landlord meme, which is actually irrelevant to the usual culture of this board.

Re: transhumanism, it's much more than just social media, but not going to bother discussing it at length here. And no, it isn't going to look anything like the socialism you want, nor barbarism either.

But why are you even on here, anyway? You know that in crypto you'll find actual "praxis", right? Much more so than anything going on on reddit or leftypol. Look into Monero, or read the BTC whitepaper or something. Start anywhere. DeFi is praxis, raiding /biz/ with an evidently unclear understanding of the people/culture here is nothing but retardation and makes your cause look idiotic. Educate yourself and liberate yourself from childish chapoceldom/breadfaggotry.

>>18107915
If any of your faggot bitch tenants argue, just point to the stock market to prove that we are obviously doing better than ever. Then double their rent.

>>18112276
>picture of man being thrown off the roof of a building
>nigga you just burned down your pad

>>18112172
lmao this is what happens to tenants that don't pay their rent

>>18107915
So I own a house in one area but rent in another. My landlord, didn't charge me rent this month. And I actually got subsidised for my mortgage payment too, however I still charged my tenants full price and wrote In a letter that next month would have a $75 dollar increase for "sanitizing efforts" Hahaha God damn poor cucks, fuck em.
Try not owning the newest consoom and save for once in your life.

>>18111932
How much do you credit for each whore?
Or a portion of their income?

Also, my tennies keep asking to pay the rent by having me fuck their wives and daughters while they watch...do I comp them more or less for watching

You stupid tenantcucks know that when we raise rent we only ensure that we don’t end up with trash like you renting our units, right?
You do know that the quality of human that will respond to our vacancy ads improves as we ask for even more money, don’t you?

so this guy wants you to pay him just because you live somewhere he's claimed?
>Yes, it's outrageous
he might spend some money on taking care of you but most of it is handled by yourself?
>Exactly
and the only reason you comply is because of the threat of being kicked out or sent to prison?
>Yes, it's basically stealing!
that sounds a lot like taxat-
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>had to replace main water line a couple of months ago
>cut concrete, dig up part of the yard
>patch it
>leave dug up yard and concrete
>dont feel like fixing it maybe summer

>>18111932

>>18112279
Not part of the admitted raid, just rolling my eyes at your imagined superiority. Kudos to you I guess; last time I posted instead of lurking was when that escort who used to trigger neets a few years back checked into a 'where are they now' thread.

Look: when you're conversing with someone with a brain, the burden of proof rests on the party who makes a claim. You've claimed that because of the existence of social media and capitalist surveillance companies, many core tenants of leftist thought are somehow invalidated -- this is bonkers on its face, and the only thing funnier than the stupid claim is how quickly you're trying to absolve yourself from having to defend it.

You're flaunting this superiority and making cracks about your intellectual opponents' delusional power fantasies, but on one side there's a theoretical bulwark that predicted much of this nonsense and has a clear vision of how it will end, and on the other is you -- and you wont "bother discussing it at length."

Say something intelligible or fuck off

you know that during recessions rents go down, right?
>but everone needs a place to live!
not necessarily your property
some people move in with roommates, or move to a different city looking for jobs, or move back with their parents
I don't hate landlords but I hate greedy people
hope you guys raising rents crash and burn

>>18112651
>You've claimed that because of the existence of social media and capitalist surveillance companies, many core tenants of leftist thought are somehow invalidated

No, I didn't say anything of the sort, you just assumed my position, erroneously. You've done this because you can't fully conceive of my position, as it's not one that can be easily pinned down.

As I said in the last post, I'm not going to get into an in-depth conversation about transhumanism or what comes after capitalism (which is literally unfolding before our eyes right now, in fact), because I haven't got the time to sit here meandering away on abstract points

Fair enough if you've been here for years, but with this annoying raid going on it's easy to mistake. I'm not flaunting any superiority, but rather just pointing out the delusions in these severely outdated leftist arguments, and precisely why they're delusional. If you want to come at me with idiocy like "the farm", then who really has the clear vision here? This is why people instinctively hate lefties - it's YOUR sides assumed intellectual superiority, while you're so far up your own ass you can't even see how idiotic you all sound, especially to the average pleb who can't even grasp what you have to say because it's so far removed from his immediate reality. You're operating on just as much false consciousness as he is, just of a different variety.

>>18112446
absolutely 100% based.

>>18107915
tenants want to just sit on their ass and smoke weed and play Xbox while living off someone else’s dime. Revolution yeah we’re gonna bern it down baby!

The mass evictions in a couple of months are going to be fucking hilarious. Can't wait for all these twitter commies to get sent out into the streets.
And no, there won't ever be a communist revolution killing all the ebul landlords. That's just a poorfag delusion.

>>18111848
>you go to where they make food to eat
>OMG SEE RIGHT THERE? RIGHT THERE! THATS WHY UR DELUSIONAL UTOPIA WILL NEVER WORK OMG FUCKIN COMMIES ALWAYS ON MY BOARD NEVER EVER PAYING RENT HOLY SHIT PAY RENT. HOLY SHIT IM SO LATE ON MY MORTGAGE PAYMENT PLEASE PAY RENT

go bankrupt

>>18112859
> I'm not going to defend my position (or even pretend I have one) and will continue being a loud prick
It's always a good bit when a Tyson thinks they're an Ayer.

>>18113068
>>18112859
Also, don't play the 'go back to r3ddit' card when you can't read IDs you insufferable newfag

>>18111801
There's a few genuine posts but yeah, it's mostly LARPing and trolls.

>>18109488
boomers trying to own the pinkos

>>18107915

I find it better to raise it $91 or some odd number.
when they query it i give them the old sob story of rates going up and maintenance costs etc. and how ive eaten half the cost of it so their rent doesnt go up as much. they eat that shit up and think im great. stupid cucks

>>18107915
whats going on in here? oh never mind i'll just leave this for you.

>>18109462
So what exactly does this "tenant revolution" involve? Ousting the land lords only to find out that they collectively cannot afford the homes they live in and have to give it to the government? No wait, how about not paying the banks or the government and then the police escort you out?

>>18111932
Based

>>18109488
Not really. This thread only exists because of so many revolution LARPers who just want to seethe.

>>18113207
Fucked replied to the wrong poster that post wasn’t based anon >>18113207 is not based

>>18113216
Of course I’m LARPing. I just made this crap thread to get these morons off my board

>>18113189
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5060/
All it takes is a little imagination anon

>>18113068
>>18113068
My main position is that the chapocels are annoying as fuck and should stick to burger flipping - "the farm" refutes itself in its outdated idiocy that reflects an intellectual tradition that lost where it went wrong (Hegel's world-spirit error).

Any form of socialism we have will NOT look like anything the left advocates. The left, culturally, is so far behind the times now, and this is the point I'm trying to make clear. Capitalism practically died in 2008, and whatever the fuck is happening right now has been the long term solution to that. Digital dollars aren't just a makeshift plan, of course. Right-wing morons/libertarians will call it "socialism" without understanding the socialist tradition, because they'll hear that phrase in right wing media. But you and I both know that it's not socialism in any capacity -- and it's not capitalism either. Late capitalism then is leading to Hypercapitalism, and the left have utterly failed. The rise of Bernie/Corbyn and the like has been nothing but a practical joke unconsciously orchestrated by the machine itself.

If I say anything further about hypercapitalism or transhumanism right now, then I'm going to have to sit here all night back and forth debating it, clarifying my positions etc. but I feel I've given you enough crumbs here to know where about I'm coming from.

>>18109488
Most western nations have eviction freezes in place. Basically rent-seekers are getting bent over and royally fucked right now from banks, because nobody has to pay rent for 2-3 months, and only principle properties count towards mortgage deferrals. Now they're raiding the board and pleading/threatening for us to pay our wagies. So they're LARPing that rent is going up, when in fact is universally going FAR down, just like fuel prices.

Yes, they're that pathetic and desperate to the point of raiding a Taiwanese exotic snake trading forum to plead and threaten us. Sad desu

Friendly reminder that the average Chapo subscriber is a white male aged 18-30 who makes less than $20k per year, according to the sub’s own survey.

>>18113348
I can assure you there's no need for any back-and-forth -- I'm not interested in anything else you have to say

>yfw americans will literally fight landlords (not even a "class" of people) rather than demand free healthcare and erase student debt

>>18113438
Go back to the farm then and flip a burger

>>18113460
Priorities anon. Rent-seekers are the ones who artificially drove real estate into hyper inflation levels and made cost of living unbearable for many. Once the real estate bubble burts and rent-seekers are hung (in minecraft), issues such as healthcare and education will be more affordable and easier to deal with

Do not tempt the pitchforks.

>>18113180
oh that's nice of you to leave us an uncooperative tenant remover

>>18113526
The only thing more dangerous than a well-read idiot is a mixed metaphor

>>18115204
Lol'd