/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18051826
Tips should be built into the price like in europe. Americans just like getting raped with extra fees like they're playing some sort of trivia game with their bank accounts, except all the questions are "Ok now what's the real price?"

Tipping is one of the most retarded system known to man.

People like "Erica" are ungrateful as fuck and shouldn't be a waitress.

I'm Mexican. I never understood why Americans do this. It's like paying a tip is obligatory or you get the stink eye from everyone.

Lmao Americans and their tips and oh expensive colleges. Oh mama mia

Boycott the mutt restaurant industry.

>>18051879
Tips should be considered an insult, like in Japan

>>18051953

I said it in another thread, entitlement is like a staircase. Once upon a time a tip was a nice thing to do for good service, then it became the expectation: next step up. You keep doing more and more for people and they expect that, and want more. Now people want to pay tips at literal fast food joints and coffee shops for pouring me a cup, it's fucking stupid. I refuse.

Bunch of broke niggers ITT

I miss my paypigs... all faggots who have a problem with tipping are europoor commies.

Why are people so fucking dumb. If I buy a more expensive meal, the waitress didn’t work any harder bringing that to me than she would something cheaper.

Cost of meal does not equal what fucking tip you get.

>>18051826
I fucking hate these faggots and their entitlement so much it's the business' job to pay their poorfag asses not mine

According to this, 15 bucks (roughly) for literally 30 minutes of "work" (refilling your drink, writing notes on for the chef/line cooks). 30 bucks a hour for that. Failing to find the justification for it all.

>>18051826
My God what an entitled dumb idiot. Here in Poo-rope if you get 0.10 cents you already have to be thankful.

Do I have to pay tips at McDonald’s in USA?

do they spit in food when u dont tip them?

>>18051826
Wait staff are pieces of shits that can’t sell cars. If you wanna work for commission you’ve gotta earn that commission. (((Restaurant owners))) reek the profits while their stupid customers cover their payroll. An honest restaurant covers a shitty employee by paying the difference they don’t earn with minimum wage. Just a bunch of crap. Save your money OP and eat at home

>>18051826
>someone generously gives you $15 free dollars on top of your wage for bringing them a plate of food
Yeah fuck them.

It's amusing to walk into a restaurant and look at the type of 'people' that frequent them. Many obese, entitled sacks of cells that not only won't grow their own food or cook it but are too lazy to walk it to their own table. These utterly boring, adipose laden, should-have-been-aborteds need the 'experience' of someone paying attention to them and treating them like the pampered little shits they delude themselves into thinking they are.

Coronachan destroy them all.

>>18052287
Do I have to pay tips at McDonald’s and other fas5 food joints?
I like fast food

Lol for all seething no-tippers...
>tipping is the price you pay to not be a nigger.

>>18052318
>>18052183
No tips at fast food places typically

I've heard that legally an employer must pay a worker minimum wage if they don't make enough tips to make up for their hourly wages.

So honestly it's just another case of businesses being cheap and Americans paying for it because they enjoy being milked.

>>18052338
What about Asian places that sell noodles?

>>18051826
>MUH TUITION!!
why are women even in school? They have historically produced nothing of value compared to men. Why do they think they can do what men can? Hope this virus is the really deal so this gay Jew clown world can come crumbling down and these roasties can get a dose of reality.

>>18051826
>$15 for maybe 20min work spread over two hours
>Likely waited five other tables in that time
This bitch is making $40/hr easy during slam time.

>>18051826
Percentage tipping is the dumbest fucking scam on the planet. Why should I pay you $30+ to walk the food to my table and act like a dumb bitch? Any tip over $5 is immensely generous. You're working like 5-10 tables per hour, you're making decent money for a low-skill job. Plus your boss pays you something as well so shove it

ITT: seething poor faggots.

Maybe mega corps should pay their workers more.

But when you ask them if they are up for higher wages and no tipping they immediately recoil like a frightened kike.
Most young female (and a lot of male) waiters actually earn good money with their tips, way more than their brethren in retail. So fuck them and fuck tipping.

>>18053019

They will frequently get sad paypigs who deal out a 100% tip for their attention and time. Waitressing/serving/bartending is a form of lite whoring. My ex was a waitress and her stories were uncomfortable.

>>18051826
I always make sure to tip $0.01, tipping zero they might think you just forgot to tip, tipping a penny they know I did it on purpose.

>>18053062
>My ex was a waitress and her stories were uncomfortable.
Do tell anon, we could use some rage material ITT

>>18053019
>retail
Fucking gross. Why would I work harder for less money? Waiting is incredibly based. If you can’t get a job waiting tables it’s because you’re sexually unattractive. The whole tipping thing is a non -issue now though we’re all gonna be on a breadline soon.

>>18053099

Lots of sad old guys who came in just to pretend like they were having a flirty conversation with a woman, then drop her a big $50 tip. The guys who come in just to hang out and leave a lot of money are called "regulars", it's like an absurd escort service, and I basically had to live in constant doubt about whether she'd have the self control to say no if some lawyer came in and gave her $300 for more. One of her coworkers fucked some trashy dude in the bathroom one late night so I at least knew her influences were terrible.

Just not fun. If your gf is an attractive bartender she's going to be battered with propositions all night, just know that.

>be American
>finally get a job
>earn like 50 cents an hour because the minimum wage is so low
>rent eats up all my money
>need to survive on tips to get by in this broken system
>retards buying digital coins shitpost about me online

Feels good being a yuropoor

>>18051953
It is actually illegal to make you pay any kind of tip.

>>18052287
Cry poorfag

>tfw never tip
Fuck waiters expecting handouts

Don't like it? Move to any country that don't expect you to pay it. Just don't be surprised if such country is a shithole.

>>18051920
Most wait staff expect 25% minimum, for doing the bare minimum.

>>18051879
tips aren't "built into" the price in europe, what are you talking about

>>18051826
Fuck these retarded entitled cunts. As if bringing you food is hard or a comendable skill.

>>18053529
Tips as in untaxed free money should be illegal

>>18052220
Personally I’ve never seen this. I’m sure it goes on but you’d have to be a real fucked up individual to do something like that. people don’t want to lose their jobs.

Other disgusting shit goes on in restaurants though mainly due to mexicans not understanding correct food handling procedures...

>>18053628
>the entirety of Europe is a shithole

>>18052539
They are in school cause muh feminism. That is the only reason.

>>18053191
Depends on the place IMO, I know of a busy restaurant that probably does around 30-50 orders during rush hour. I know I would prefer retail in a chill environment rather than having to deal with more customers because a lot of them are assholes in restaurants.

tipping is the way restaurants get away with fucking over their staff with low ass wages while making the waitresses suck dick for pennies.
there's a reason that the US hasn't put a stop to it.

>>18051826

The current system of tipping is dumb. Tips should not be mandatory or expected. You should not be required to get a handout from customers for doing your job just to make ends meet. Employers should be responsible for compensating their employees fairly. If employers are unable to hire employees capable of doing their job at a reasonable cost, they should not be in business.

>>18051826
i have entirely stopped tipping because the avg $5 tip goes a long way with various cryptos.
fuck these wage cucks. they will be replaced by literal robots before 2030 rolls around.

>>18054415
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage
tipped employees always make at least minimum wage
doesn't mean the system isn't bullshit but by no means are tips ever mandatory

>>18053610
>mfw i steal tips left on others tables on my way out
fuck them & thanks for the free meal

>>18053836
one admit it he did if some one rude was to him lmfao

>>18053091
most based post ITT

>>18052521
Good rule if thumb, if it has a drive thru window, dont tip, if it doesnt, tip. There are some exceptions, but if you're uncertain you can just briefly ask another customer something like, "I'm not from around here, do I tip my server at this place?" You'll be fine if they arent assholes.

>>18054659
Based if true

>>18052329
found the poor wagie

>>18051993
It is in north africa too, burgers are weird

>>18051879
It's not built into the price whatever that mean

>>18053767
But in USA apparently servers earn below minimum wage because tips are treated as part of their pay, which is ridiculous.

>>18055330

I only tip if there's been some extraordinary service beyond simply making the product I paid for. Like a delivery or waiting on me for an hour. That's it.

>>18051826
This thread confirms /biz/ is full of Pajeets
They want free service and loathe tipping

>>18056062

>It's not built into the price

Yep, the server's wage just appears out of thin air. Not like the owner would increase the price of a product to compensate for labor costs.

People dont tip me in my job, why should I tip you in yours?

>>18053628
Boomers are so pathetic?

>>18054536

mandatory in the sense that it is socially unacceptable not to tip because servers/waiters/etc rely on them instead of being paid a living wage.

>>18057246
true, but they only rely on them because they live well beyond a regular minimum wage worker's means and expect that lifestyle to be the norm

Here’s a tip: get a real fucking job, faggot.

>>18051879
Every place that tries this ends up shutting down. Even though they would be paying the same price as a cheaper place with tipping, Americans for some reason just see the higher price tag and just go somewhere else. It's pretty retarded.

>>18051826
What's so pathetic about these simps is they ACTUALLY THINK they can get laid. BAKA.

>>18053019
I would make over $800 a night on weekends or big events when I was still bartending. Good times.

>>18056103
Not everywhere. Here in Denver I make $12 an hour plus tips as a bartender.

>>18054659
A true chad

Imagine getting mad at the customer because your employer wont pay your fucking wages HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>18052395
Should waiting be a minimum wage job? Have you ever tried waiting?

>>18057246

If someone goes above and beyond or gives excellent/speedy service, I see no problem with rewarding them for their service/effort, but it's gotten to the point where you're expected to tip or donate to some charity at every transaction. These greedy fucks are just trying to extract every penny out of you that they can. They have the ability to pay their employees and donate to charities to help, but they won't unless they benefit in some way that makes it worth their while. They have the nerve to shove that shit in your face though and expect you to pony up the dough and tug at your heartstrings and try to manipulate you into playing along even though most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and can't afford additional expenses- and if you don't you're the bad guy and an asshole, but somehow they all get a pass. Fuck that. Customers should not be responsible for raising money for employees and charities. If you can't afford to pay your employees, why the fuck would I trust you to help manage collecting money for a charity? It's all bullshit to make you feel bad for not giving them money. I'd rather donate to a local charity or volunteer my own time knowing it's going to be useful than be siphoned off into some asshole's bank account.

>>18052287
*pours some water on the hot fajita plate to make it sizzle so you feel special*

>>18057669
Do you have enough canned away for however long this shit will go down? Pretty sure big weekends and events are long fucking gone for the next quarter.

>>18053628
Maybe just pay them a living wage instead of morally obligating customers to hand out money to them for doing their job. It's the employers job to pay them

>>18057669
Damn that's crazy. What kind of place was it and do people still tip?

Tfw the wendys drive thru asks for tip. What is the world coming to? These faggots do nothing but complete their job, but are entitled to a tip? There is no customer service experience at all, i have not even tried the product as of payment, but I should pay them more?

>went on holiday to burgerland a few years back
>didn't tip a single person

The seethe was hilarious and they could spit in my food because i always paid after the meal.

>>18052181
Listen, you low IQ FUCK.
They're not "entitled".
They're SELF-ENTITLED.
If you're saying they're entitled, you're AGREEING with them. You're saying that they, in fact, ARE entitled to being tipped more than 8%.
Get it now? Good.
Don't let me see you make this clownish mistake on my board again.

>>18053767
they are if you go to classier places with nice food instead of a pub

>>18051826
It's really weird how you fuckheads are blaming the waiters and not the restaurants for paying borderline illegal wages and expecting it to be made up with tips. The system of tipping is retarded but that doesn't mean you have to be too

Tipping is stupid.

In my state, you can be paid as low as $3.63 for tip-able income. Assuming this is for a table of 4 people, taking 1-2 hours, she's trying to make $22 an hour. Judging by the white bitch hand-writing, she's probably busy refilling wine glasses and dealing with cunts who think she's slow before she even started. Cunts like the people in this thread.

>>18059788
Why should I have to be part of a retarded system, you stupid piece of shit?

>>18051826
Ah great, another American who is perfectly fine with paying waiters a poverty wage while the boss buys another Range Rover. It's fucking embarassing that you Americans rely on tips, you should be ashamed that the situation has gotten to this point

>>18057451

>true, but they only rely on them because they live well beyond a regular minimum wage worker's means and expect that lifestyle to be the norm.

That's because the cost of living exceeds what minimum wage pays.

>>18057520

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>>18051826
I laugh at you fucking burgers being so entitled to tips when you're already paid more than the average Australian worker both by default and by virtue of your far stronger dollar.

Weaklings, all of you.

>>18057520
Unequivocally based and redpilled

>>18057520
Hello, based department? Yes, I'll hold.

>>18051879
it literally gives the customer more power though and provides better service

>>18060686
Imagine believing this. American table staff are some of the most rude and worst I have ever encountered.

I'm not paying extra just because you served me like a normal human being
If anything I'd tip for the chef for taking care of my food being good because that actually takes skill
I don't understand why the tip goes to the one who did the least amount of work

>>18051826
Better have the same fucking thread a billion times!!

>>18060871
I agree, we could add another shitcoin thread instead!

>>18051826
waiters are niggers. i waited tables for 2 months. worst job ive ever had.

>>18057736
Should a job that requires such minimal skills and abilities that a teenage girl can be ultra-sucessful at it just by looking hot be minimum wage? Yes, yes it should.

>>18051826
Tipping is some crazy shit. Even the most leftist, communist american will defend tipping with teeth and nails. You'd imagine at least them would prefer fair wages.

>>18060686
It just transfers anger at the low pay from the employer to the customer

>>18060704
I could count on one hand how many bad experiences I've had at restaurants with waiters over here but I'm not a nigger, but neither have I been to Europe

I'm assuming you have some metric or personal experience from which you could illuminate us all on? What makes servers here in the US worse than where you live? Do they give out blowjobs afterwards over there? If you went to a tourist trap the waiters are probably insufferable or mediocre but it's like that anywhere you get hundreds of people a day in one restaurant