/biz/ - Business & Finance

OP. you can't use american and intellectuals in the same sentence that is simply not possible burgers are dump as fuck.

>dow number go up good

>>18041628
What is your fucking argument OP? They're right. You think otherwise? Why?

so deadly, so dangerous

>>18041628
>we aren't getting out usual fix of w.e. makes us feel relevant in our artificial cogscrew society

>we want to get back to slow suicide and self-debasement for status and ''bread''

last I checked trees give food for free and fish and stuff comes in abundance if you don't hoard and over-breed things

Reads like a bunch of shitcoin shills who longed the top lmao COPEronavirus.

Cool bait bro

Except they're right.
90% of deaths are over age 70. Can't shut down and entire economy and ruin millions of lives because some dead old folks.

>>18041628
>None of the doctors advising on this thing are experts on what makes a society work
This is so rich

>>18041628
>all these retards..

>>18041714
What part of permanent lung damage and month long hospitalization do you not understand?

The correct thing to do is to do all these supresison measures ONLY ON OLD PEOPLE and those who are in contact with them. But boomers are a strong voting base, so you can't bully them.

>>18041714
>Instead of slowing the virus by shutting down the country for a little which (which will indeed fuck up the economy for a little), we'll destroy our healthcare systems, have people dying off all over the place (some of which won't be COVID patients and instead will just be other sick people who can't get proper care) and fuck up the economy anyways

>>18041714
Except they're fucking retarded because the markets crashing doesn't affect 99% of people, because the people that are being laid off right now are getting full pay unemployment for months.

All of these politicians and "intellectuals" are primarily concerned about their own bottom line.
I live in PA and I've spoken to dozens of people who are out of work due to the shutdown and they're all treating it like a fucking vacation.

>>18041628
literally who

>>18041628
>guys, we need to stay quarantined forever and never go outside ever again.
>If you go outside, you are LITERALLY KILLING PEOPLE.

get fucked you fucking faggots. I'll cough all over you and you'll fucking piss your pants.

>guys we need to never work again, or you're literally killing people and you're worse than hitler.
>Drumfpt invented this disease and didn't tell us about it until 2 days ago.
>Dobalb Dwomp l i t e r a l l y keeps lying to us about the disease and it is making me hyperventilate. We MUST stop him by electing bag o' bones Joe and the shadow council that props up his dead body.

2020 is shaping up to be my favorite year. This shit is so fucking hilarious to me.

>>18041714
Yeah bro it's only everyone over 60 and people with heart and lung conditions and smokers and the obese who are at risk. That's like 60% of the population tops, relax

>>18041628
wild how trump supporters were the first to overreact, then once people on the left became concerned, they ripped the hardest 180 degree turn they possibly could to prove to the world that they're rational-minded

which makes me wonder, what scared boris johnson so much that he switched parties and ripped his dick off to join labour before straight up joining the communist party?

>if you go within 10 yards of someone you deserve death.
>I want to literally KILL those spring breakers for going outside when 94 year old's in Italy are dying of corona virus [and cancer]
>how am I going to pay my $2,000 rent when I'm not allowed to go to work? Sorry landlord scum, I will not pay. It's unsafe to go outside and I just spent my last $50 on UberEats'ing a Wendy's combo meal.

you slowly realize why some people want to drag this china flu out as long as they possibly fucking can. They finally can benefit from being the piece of shit they always were.

>>18041784
>>18041811
>>18041863
Anon are you okay?

>>18041696
Now post the death rate without hospitalisation

>>18041751
>>Instead of slowing the virus by shutting down the country for a little which (which will indeed fuck up the economy for a little), we'll destroy our healthcare systems, have people dying off all over the place (some of which won't be COVID patients and instead will just be other sick people who can't get proper care) and fuck up the economy anyways
>>18041868
>Anon are you okay?

I'm thinking you have to go back, Mr. Redditor. *coughs in your direction*

>>18041751
>have people dying off all over the place
>Dude, if we don't shut down the country for 4 months, literally everyone will die, all over the place!

you are so fucking stupid lol

>>18041915
dont tell me there are people that actually like trump still

>>18041628
This kind of reaction would be correct if we had any semblance of a economy worth saving.

>>18041928
>COVID-19 hits people hardest who have comorbidities like obesity, high blood pressure and respiratory issues
Let me tell you about the average US citizen (and it still will be mostly boomers dying off, but that still will not result in the market not shitting itself)

>>18041930
don't like anything about the man

>>18041628
They’re just neoliberal retards.

>>18041949
yes Anon, I've already ceded the point to you that we need to stay inside for 7 months or literally everyone will die.

>>18041930
trump is unironically becoming less popular and newsom/cuomo becoming more popular among trump supporters courtesy of coronachan

These are the same “muh free market” retards who think we have the best healthcare system in the world. What will they say when, following their demands, hospitals are absolutely inundated with coronavirus patients and we’re worse off than Italy?

Putting a quarantine on people 65+ seems like the most logical solution. Theyre already getting a pension, theyre the most at risk for the disease, lots of boomer still work so this will clear up a lot of the job market and increase demand which means higher wages for young people, and doing that will flatten the curve so the healthcare system isnt overwhelmed. This would last only 18 or so or until theres a drug which significantly helps, or a vaccine. WHeres the downside here?

>>18041982
>>18041930

Alright, well if we want to make the Corona virus situation political, which Americans love to do (because they're children), Democrats are running a rag doll with Alzheimer's against the weakest incumbent president in US history. They will lose and it will be funny, and it's all their fault (including everyone that voted for the man with literal dementia). I mean imagine thinking running a man with Alzheimer's for President of the USA is a solid strategic move. It's fucking baffling but it will definitely be funny.

>>18041628
>Kill 5% of the Population for the holy GDP

>>18042045
cope faggot i'm just stating the truth

>>18041628
>American
>Intellectual

Choose one.

>>18042104

Cool, i'm stating the truth as well. Enjoy 4 more years of orange man.

>>18042179
i will dipshit. who the fuck do you think you're talking to?

>>18042274

Señor Dermpf?

>>18041628
well, this will all end well. won't it
Goddammit murica, while you can be generally cretinous over many an issue - gun control comes to mind - rolling the fucking dice on the lives of what could be 5% of your population, JUST for the fucking Dow and the re-election of that fat fucking genocidal orange arsehole?
This is too mad, even for you. You have a choice - and the RIGHT thing to do here isn't even at issue - no, your choice is whether you are gonna sit back and let this happen.

tfw working from home and drinking whiskey all day erryday.
this is the best thing that has happened since sars and swineflu.

>>18042296
it's been fun larping with you comrade

don't forget to buy the dips

>>18041784
Does anyone have this image with the italian pizza dude?

>>18041686
If anyone suggests anything involving work, commerce, the economy it triggers them. They can't imagine that harm can be done if things stop moving for too long.

#Tachyon provider nodes can get bothstaking rewardsandsession rewards.

>>18041628
At this point I'm convinced that the Republicans actively WANT people dead.

200k per life-year (even for old boomers)
1 million deaths (do you really believe this?)
10 years of life lost on average (average age of death is about 80)
= 2 trillion dollars

Cost of shutting down the economy
= way more than 2 trillion

#Tachyon uses multiprotocol adaptive infiltration technology

>>18042012
Right, free healthcare solves overcrowding at hospitals. You are a genius.

>>18041847
That sounds like god sending us an eugenics cleaning tool said like that.

>>18042312
The absolute state of r*ddit

>>18041663
There's a word for that

>>18041628
I mean they're right.

we need to be testing people right now and over the next week. Test everyone. Then lock down people that actually have the thing. Sorry, you go to house arrest while the rest of the country carries on.

what we're doing right now isn't working and isn't sustainable. Half-assed quarantines that nobody follows. Only problem is the president is too stupid to do what needs done. So he'll just let it spread instead.

>>18043308
>muh republicans
If your dog died you'd blame them

>>18043721
The economy isn't sustainable so who cares. Let it die. Quarantine everyone for an entire year. The stock market is gay bullshit.

>>18041628
5 stages.

>>18043727
I mean if their policy consisted of "You are to not give your pet essential medical care and over work it to exhaustion and death" I certainly would.

>>18041733
fear mongering. your welcome to stay rot in your apartment faggot, us adults have work to do

>>18043763
Medical effects that can be observed and measured are not fear mongering. Even Asymptomatic cases demonstrate reduced lung functionality you absolute fucking imbecile.
Jesus fucking christ do the world favor and an hero

>>18043760
Which it isn't and couldn't be

>>18041628
American cuckservatives

>>18043721
That's not practical though. For one there aren't enough tests, and how the hell are they going to ensure that literally everyone has been tested? They could go to every house in the country but what about people who are homeless or indigent? All it takes is for them to miss 1 single person and the whole things starts again. Also the tests aren't 100% accurate and there can be false negatives. Double test? Over 330 million people statistically there will be double false negatives. So you'll need even MORE tests. Triple testing, quadruple testing...

>>18043781
>Asymptomatic cases demonstrate reduced lung functionality you absolute fucking imbecile.
You will provide no source for this.

>>18041628
No one with an IQ above 90 uses "so" as a synonym of "much", "very", or "a lot".

>>18041628
>Joey Salads is an intellectual
fuck off with that much b8

>>18041847
This but unironically.

>>18043808
yeah, you're right. But we could at the very least quarantine anyone that tests positive based on symptoms AND anyone they had close contact with. It's not perfect but it's better than what we're doing. We tried it at the start but the whole "self-isolation" thing is voluntary so a lot of people undoubtedly ignored it.

>>18041628
>society
People are beginning to understand the majority of "jobs" are not needed.

>>18043813
And you would be proven wrong
https://www.jto.org/article/S1556-0864(20)30132-5/pdf
It takes 0 effort to not be a retard.
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/02/studies-profile-lung-changes-asymptomatic-covid-19-viral-loads-patient
https://www.sciencealert.com/even-those-who-recover-from-corona-can-be-left-gasping-for-breath-afterwards
https://www.medicaldevice-network.com/news/coronavirus-ct-scans/

The leeches of society want this to go on so they can feel validated in their slovenly lifestyle.

I despise magapedes, but they’re right on this one. This whole thing was an overblown overreaction, once everything settles the economy will be in ruins. Is that worth it just to save some old farts that are just going to live off SS for years anyways? Fuck no.

>>18044473
>"Fuck the poor. Fuck the ill, fuck your long term health"
Least you're honest about putting money before humanity

>>18042027
Exactly. This whole fiasco is fucking ridiculous. I don't even want the shitty gubment check, just let me return to work ffs...

>>18043721
This isn't even possible you fucking retard...
>test all 330 gorillion goyim!
how the fuck do you honestly expect this to work? makes 0 fucking sense. kys

>>18042312
This is the most reddit post I have ever seen. Redditors are so dramatic and cringe

>>18041930
>no-one likes Trump, no-one will vote for him
Topkek, you fags are going to do it again.

>>18041773
>the people that are being laid off right now are getting full pay unemployment for months

Incorrect. Maybe YOU are.

>>18041847
An 11 year-old with no preexisting medical conditions died of it today in my state.

>>18043721
>Test everyone.

Hey dude, I'm going to tell you how fucked we are.

I know someone who contacted a confirmed covid19 case and spent hours in the same room with them before they knew, she has a fever and cough and they won't test her because her fever isn't high enough. They are still rationing test kits and only using them to confirm people who are seriously ill. We'll never be able to track or even count the virus.

>>18041628
Why are Americans so stupid? The arch fucking tory leading bongland literally put everyone on the dole rather than risk this spreading. This is serious.

>NOOOOOO DUDE DON'T STOP WAGESLAVING FOR 80 YEARS OF YOUR LIFE BECAUSE OF THE VIRUS

>>18041686
The mortality rate of the virus depends on external factors, for instance Italy will probably have a higher mortality rate than Iran, because Italy's population is older than Irans.
Perhaps a bad example, because Iran might have a higher mortality rate than Italy because it's healthcare system is weaker, and a lack of respirators etc. will mean some people will die who otherwise would have been able to survive if the healthcare system was adequate.

The purpose of quarantine is to slow down the spread so hospitals doesn't get overrun, if you chose no quarantine then most people that get the disease will not be able to get medical help, which would pump up the mortality rate.

>>18041696
>doesn't know how many mild/symptomless infections there are

hmm its almost like in countries where they test more, the death rate is lower because.... its not that bad?

>>18041700
Are we really going to pretend that your worthless ass hunts, farms or forages? Don't make me laugh, faggot.

>>18044379
>the retard disappears

What a surprise.

>>18044473
Jews were only 1% of the population. This will kill 4%.

Letting the vulnerable die on purpose because you think they're subhuman/inferior/a waste of money is called eugenics

>>18044815
Yeah I think it may be a bit easier to pull measures like that on a tiny irrelevant island. America is different.

>>18041628
>American
>Intellectual
Pick one>

Lombardy already has COVID-19 neck and neck with all-cause mortality and it's only going to accelerate as the infection continues to grow while the hospitals remain the same.

By what mechanism do Americans think this line is going to taper off? Do they think it's a statistical anomaly or something? A decent chunk of your population is going to die like third worlders. In particular anybody still going to work is getting absolutely fucked by the government which has, itself, closed down a huge amount of its departments for remote working already.

>>18043781
Do you even understand the concept of asymptomatic?

>>18045136

Yes, he does, google sign vs symptom. This is fucking first year medical student shit, I'm starting to think you might not even be a doctor.

>>18041855
trump worshippers have lower IQs than black people.

except for the jews who support him to suck money out of him.

>>18042312
The virgin media hypetool
>vs
>>18042027
The coldminded chad

>>18043551
Because 80 yo people earn money instead of spending it retard

>>18044794
>america ends up drastically undercounting the virus in their statistics
it's funny how literally every criticism against China ends up coming true 7-fold for the US sometime down the line.

If we set the larps aside, it's pretty easy to see just from the numbers alone the emotional damage this will cause. There's a lot of real world situations that the "just get it" meme likes to ignore. This will be a huge net positive long term as it forces said ass hats to recognize how fucked we really were. At the very least we'll be the ventilator generation.

I don't understand why we all don't just get it either. Just drink orange juice pussies.

>>18044379

so a couple of hundred people, many of them old or already with lung problems, developed some pneumonia. panic more you pearl clutching faggot.

>>18041965
Fuck you're stupid. It's not about LITERALLY EVERYONE dying. It's about the 20% of cases who need hospitalisation. If the virus spreads to everyone, 20% of all people will need to be hospitalised all at the same time. That obviously isn't supportable by any healthcare system, so many of those people will go without medical care and die. Almost 20% of people dying. That's 1 in 5, for someone with your IQ.

>>18044507

see you over compassionate idiots always take some bullshit extreme strawman position. it's not "fuck the poor, fuck the ill" you crybaby.

it's "lets not shut down the economy by locking the entire population in their homes for weeks just so some old people can live longer"

maybe just focus efforts on those at extreme risk instead of nanny stating the country into the fucking ground.

personally i think old people should die off more anyway. all this money and technology keeping the eternal boomer, the fat and the retarded ticking over. waste of resources imo, but i can see why faggots would think otherwise.

>>18045326

what fantasy land are you imagining this happening in? this "overwhelm the health system" argument is no justification to fucking close down society.

isolate the old and the vulnerable. let families decide on their own isolation risks. everyone else can GO ABOUT THEIR FUCKING BUSINESS and IN MOST CASES get nothing more than a cough and then COMPLETELY RECOVER.

and of the SMALL PERCENT that it goes bad for, well that's just fucking darwin isn't it. god you hyper concern motherly instinct twats really are the absolute worst.

>>18045357
This post is why you will always be poor(you are an idiot).

>>18045120
it can only be two possible things:
>they are too stupid to understand the disease and how infectious it is, and the impact of having millions of people infected at the same time
>they understand this, but don't care. Probably because they have financial motives.

Stupidity and kikery will tear America apart.

>>18041628

A blue checkmark automatically disqualifies their opinion for me.

>>18041714
%90 of death are over age 70 because doctors choose to save the ones below 70.

>>18041863
i'll descend to your level of retardation and analyze your own arguments:

> don't spread the virus
> don't spread the fucking virus
> if you spread the virus i cant fucking pay my obscene rent and I will have no option but to not pay (since I have no fucking money) and/or literally starve

and you still think people are using this to be lazy? you deserve an olympic medal for gymnastics.

Once this all blows over, seek help

>>18045120
Excess mortality has not gone up dramatically in Europe. Italy's numbers are bogus. This hysteria is bogus. Rationality must win out and these shutdown measures need to end immediately. This is the biggest public policy failure of the 21st century.

>>18045327
>UMMM "fuck the poor" is just a bullshit extreme strawman
>my ACTUAL position is "fuck old people, and they should die"

>>18045357
>isolate the old and the vulnerable
>away from a now overcrowded health system the old and vulnerable are generally dependant on
u r reel smert
Italy is currently at 0.1% off confirmed cases across the population and their health system including temporary facilities is already saturated. This is already after 2 weeks non important industry shut down.
Thank fuck the government officials that do actually have to take the economic fall are still deciding to wind things down instead of listening to neo /pol/ retards with fake numbers full of oversights

>>18045357
I know you're retarded, but I want to help you.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf
>We find that that optimal mitigation policies (combining home isolation of suspect cases, home quarantine of those living in the same household as suspect cases, and social distancing of the elderly and others at most risk of severe disease) might reduce peak healthcare demand by 2/3 and deaths by half.
>However, the resulting mitigated epidemic would still likely result in hundreds of thousands of deaths and health systems (most notably intensive care units) being overwhelmed many times over.
>For countries able to achieve it, this leaves suppression as the preferred policy option.

Also do you think people will just accept that you let their old relatives die because the hospitas are full and they are not important for the economy?

>it's not "fuck the poor, fuck the ill" you crybaby.
>and of the SMALL PERCENT that it goes bad for, well that's just fucking darwin isn't it
At least be consistent

>>18045581
>iTs JuSt FaKeNeWs!

>>18045634
>will still likely result in hundreds of thousands of deaths
Complete bogus. You're peddling fiction. South Korea and Japan have undergone other measures and have not locked down their entire societies. They have met with the most success. Better testing, production of crucial equipment, and an improved health care system are what is required. Plunging us into a depression is probably the dumbest policy prescription I can imagine.

>>18045653
You'll be back to work in the beginning of April. This will be forgotten in the summer. You are a fool falling for hysteria.

>>18041784
look you degenerate kiked up zoomer incell faggot nigger. If i even see a droplet of your disgusting body fluids within a radius of 15 yards around me , i will not hesitate to unload my sawed off into your kneecaps and then pour a bottle of acid on your face , put some gasoline on you and light that shit up. unzip my pants start jacking it and hopefully my gallons of boomercum will extinguish the flames so you can spend the rest of your days in agony looking like a grilled sandwhich and totally humiliated. Don't underestimate boomers we are the end of a cycle , we are ready to go and don't have much more to lose

>>18045659
Only reason South Korea managed to make it work is because they responded early and concise, without underestimating the threat in the beginning. As you mentioned, they had thorough testing and contact tracing.
It's already too late for the USA to take that method.
>>18045669
Added to the collage, Thanks!

>>18045715
Thanks. I'll be back to serve you the crow.

>>18045619
>>18045608

old people die. get over it. stop being so over sensitive, maybe lay off the onions for while.

we should not be shutting down society over this. it can and should be managed in a sensible manner, but not by concern trolling the whole of society into cease all productive activity.

what we do have is a good test run for the police state rollout that's coming.

>>18041628
i hope they get back to work tomorrow. After one month everyone is infected and massive genocide will happen. americucks deserve it

>>18045634

brought to you by the same idiots who peddle whatever climate change agenda they want to get through. some shitty made up graph of completely fictional data points made by some fucking bureaucrat and a few college researchers predicts catastrophe unless society is shut down.

that graph is so shitty it shows you are the retard.

>>18041628
> greatest economy of the history of the world
> collapses due to a minor hickup

>>18045659
South Korea etc came down hard as fuck on this virus from the start instead of kicking and screaming that it's just the flu and allowing it to spread to become the worst scenario which is what we are approaching.

>>18045634
>Also do you think people will just accept that you let their old relatives die because the hospitas are full and they are not important for the economy?

strawman harder

>>18045864
>brought to you by the same idiots who peddle whatever climate change agenda they want to get through
Yeah and those idiots are gonna get their agenda if you retards let the wuflu kill 15% of the Republican voting demographic.

>>18041628
Also look at Chinese stock market after months of a REAL lockdown compared to murica with soft measures hahahahahhahahahahah

>>18045357
except doctors themselves are at risk because they're old. healthcare is already expensive and we don't have enough good doctors to go around and you want less of them with your autistic let everyone die shit. why don't you just start looting and killing people like a nigger then if you don't care about people

>>18041696
Are you stupid? Even your own chart shows a 10 times higher mortality rate than the flu. Not to mention what will happen when ICUs are over capacity.

>>18041628
Are they pretending that if they stop all the quarantines everything will suddenly go back to normal? I doubt people will flood back to restaurants or cinemas and if they get sick they won't be able to work anyways.

>>18041863
>dying of corona virus [and cancer]
THIS

>>18046093
But they won't be, check the average mortality rate and age and then look at the size of the elderly demographic in places like Italy. It's really no surprise in the end it's bad over there.

>>18041628
Good thing it's not up to Trump, but the governors.

>>18046093
>What is risk/age ratio

>>18046277
If I was Californian I'd listen to trump over the governor

>>18046482
What shithole of a state are you from instead?

Assuming every human on earth were to get it, given the mortality rate of about 4% you would have about 380 million people die. This is the rate for people in hospitals mind you, if they get overrun don't be surprised to see that number top one billion.

>>18046493
Not california, which has two kinds of people: faggots and spics

>>18046248
The ICU situation is still a thing, people will die of normal conditions because of all the Covid patient's filling ICU, non emergency surgery have been postponed for months, people with potentially treatable cancers will be waiting months before they get appointments. That's just a few things. This shit is gonna be biblical. If we don't get it under control, hospitals gonna collapse.

>>18046721
Yeah, so we should destroy the economy in the process, there won't be any long term consequences. We did it reddit!

>>18046750
>Hospitals collapse
>Die of tooth infection
>"HEY AT LEAST THE ECONOMY IS BOOMING?!"

>>18041663
holy shit amerimutts btfo forever

>>18046764
>Hospitals go out of business
>millions more die than would have ever died from coronavirus
>At LeAsT We StOpPeD ThE SeAsOnAL fLu

>>18046657
It doesn't have you though, so it's already superior.

>>18046788
So we'll file under FAGGOT

>>18046750
Economy is fucked no matter what you do at this point, retard. The window for minimizing this shit has gone by way back in January-February.

>>18041663
>dump as fuck
Secret XRP thread then

>>18046806
Then fuck the 80 year old flags with HIV who can't handle the sniffles. Not gonna destroy the economy more for their sake

okay, so i've worked out what i think is a reasonable compromise.

since old people are the most affected, but they risk clogging up the hospitals and impacting the rest of society, the right thing to do is to round up everyone over 60 and gas them.

>>18045934
>trusting the Chink market
Yeah no.

>>18046834
Edgy faggots like you are in the minority, sorry to say. Rage all you want, but it's fucked and all the brrrr in the world can't help.

>>18046873
Just bought 100 shares of BA yesterday at $100.02 we'll see who's better off in six months

>open up economy
One month later
>boomers get sick and die on the order of millions
>trump just killed his largest voterbase to create a bulltrap
>uncertainty introduced makes market actually have a real long lasting crash
>larger businesses have stayed closed out of fear of lawsuits
>people who dont want to go outside are not participating in the 'reopened economy' because they aren't sociopaths and they care about their parents/grandparents and their own health
>young people who do go out manage to get sick and cant get hospital access because the hospitals are overrun with boomers
>whoops just remembered obesity is a preexisting condition that leads to higher CFR, and American youth are battling an obesity crisis on top of being juul heads

This is going to be like watching retarded lambs get sent to a slaughter. It's almost as though nobody in charge right now is capable of thinking two steps ahead and that they're all reactionary dumbfucks.

>>18045269
Praying that your entire family gets wiped out.

>>18045680
We younger generations have nothing to lose either, in spite of being healthier with more years left to "enjoy." think about that.

>>18045897
Idk I'm a recent redpilled Republican and I've redpilled a half a dozen 20-something yr olds without really even trying. Just like paying attention to news and speaking logically and neutrally redpilled those hopeful pie in the sky comfort zone seeking weak blue leftist.

>>18046915
New York and Cali are staying closed no matter what orange retard says. It's up to the governors to impose these restrictions, and they won't be willing to cull their constituency.

>>18047028
Sounds totally like shit that really happened, bro.

>>18045551
Don't underestimate the lazy or stupid. They will surprise you.

How much Unification do these faggots hold? I bet it's 0 or less than 1M.

>>18045608
>Hey I don't think old people should die.
What choices do old people really have?
>Hey I think people with lower survival chances will likely not survive so don't worry about it.
Whether old or diabeetus or asthma or cancer. I wish them the best but they might just die(I myself might just die)... And that's ok.

>>18041686
Go watch videos from the hospitals in wuhan from 2 and 1/2 months ago

>>18047136
I wish both parties. the house, the senate, all supreme justices and Trump with his entire cabinet dies instead. And all the glow in the dark CIA niggers too.

>>18047087
I live in the bluest state there is, I'll talk to you without an agenda for a few minutes and you will likely turn red too. It wasn't hard, I wasn't trying to convince anyone of anything.

>>18047156
The Chinese are hysterical drama queens what is your point?

>>18046721
Decentralized hospitals when?

>>18047191
>Hospitals lined with the dying and recently dead people of all age groups
>drama
Same shit will happen here if we let this continue without intervention

>>18041628
And to think this could have been manageable 2 or maybe even a month back.
Yeah it would have hurt regardless but added two more big scoops of shit to this sandwich we are all gonna take a big bite out of now.

>>18047216
>Believing chinese media to be unbiased and not just propaganda
Wew lad, stay in your bunker LMAO

>>18041686
Its a new stage of american social darwinism. They are going to let people die so that Goldman Sachs balance sheet wont look worse.

>>18047249
I believe Italian and Spanish media. And Iranian mass graves satellite photos.

>>18047268
Then you deserve to live in fear

>>18041628
these are the faggots who don't want us getting our trump bucks, so the only thing left to advocate for is pretending the virus isn't a big deal and going back to the status quo like everything is normal. lol

>>18046750
>Let's society just tough out the virus
>2% of people die and 40% get sick
>Still an economic disaster that kills the economy.
What are our goals here?

>>18047268
Maybe I would beleive Spain. Maybe.

>>18047305
Does the economy collapse every flu season? No? Ok we're done with the discussion

>>18046787
this is a dumbfoundingly stupid comment

>Fuck doctors they only know what they know, WHAT ABOUT MY STONKS?

>>18047305
Pretend it is fine and insist this is the bottom
Fuck it, just let them do it anon; We desperately need a purge of the stupid at this point, and sometimes you can only teach a Child by letting him burn himself.

This is actually my first visit to /biz/. Thought there'd be some good rational discussion here. This place is disappointingly lame. People in biz really risking the economy collapse for old dying people? This is scarier than I thought. You guys are way too emotional. Back to /pol

>>18047521
Nice appeal to authority bootlicker
There are a lot of hysterical women and faggots in medicine if you didn't already know that

>>18047597
I hope you know this virus targets high IQ people too.
Who's pretending this is fine? I'm just predefining an outcome we can agree on that we'd all prefer to see.

>>18047632
yeah FUCK WOMEN am i rite xD your medical degree is cute, but go back to teh kitchen, sweetie. we have an ECONOMY to maintain here.

>>18041696
Dont underestimate the amount of smokers and diabetics in America.

If you don't already consider both conservatives and progressives as retards then i don't know what you are doing with your life

>>18047610
Good, go suck each other’s dick off while you play heil Hitler.

Oh, a bunch of Jews, got it

>>18047493
Does every flu season involve a flu that affects your immune system in a similar fashion to aids? Damage nurvous systems? Scar lungs? I hope what I am reading is wrong, but it says they are hospitalizing younger people too(I hope it's just fearmongering lies, but I have to prepare to be wrong).
Regardless... The fact is that THIS flu, is overwhelming hospitals, and THAT, is dangerous, especially when store shelves become empty. HOLY CRACK COCAINE why am I replying to brainlets. Idk. Idk...

>>18047766

Hey, the Nazis didn't chop their dicks off and wanted to make a future for their children. I'd rather have Nazis than the abomination that are modern leftists.

>>18041628
They are literally right, though. Shutting down the economy isn't sustainable. Boomers already fucked up our lives enough, we can't let them keep getting away with it.

>>18041628
What can we say, many Americans admit their people are dumb.

>>18047493
>flu
Why do retards still say this?

Why were the "uncaring" "indifferent to human suffering" "callous" Chinese Communist Party willing to hurt their economy temporarily to stop a virus from killing their people whilst the western capitalists are not?

>>18047175
You should run for office bro

>>18047842
Nazis were closeted big time anon.

>>18042312
dialate

>>18048093
because seething moranons have a china hate boner but are too emotional to realize their own biases

>>18048186

Why are you buying into propaganda? Hurr durr everyone that doesn't like globohomo is gay hurr durrr.

>>18047632
Ok retard. Try learning a trade instead of raging about being laid off as waiter

>>18047493
>IDS JUS A FLUUUUUU
kek

>>18048282
>Believes nazi propaganda
>Bro how could you buy into propaganda

Conservative? More like how much of corporate cock can I conserve in my mouth

>>18041887
this

>>18041696
those percentages are very high. also you're at risk of getting permanent lung damage even if you're young and can survive.

>>18041855
Gtfo commie this board is for people with human souls

>>18042385
Dilate

>>18047087
Kill your self commie you are a non existent NPC

>>18047701
DILATE

>>18045357
>then COMPLETELY RECOVER.

The NBA players who got the virus will never be able to play professionally again.

>>18048543
Get fucked jidf

>>18047816
KILLING OFF ALL THE HIV RIDDLED FAGS? FUCK WHATEVER WILL WE DO

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>>18041696
Isolate everyone over 50
problem solved

>>18047249
Propaganda is supposed to make your country look good, retard.

>>18047249
china tried to downplay it for a month and their recovery took 4 months.

I hope you mutts can downplay even longer so your kikelords can drain their every penny from markets before leaving you to your deaths.

>>18043808
>if one person has the virus it's going to cause the plague again
>tests don't even work anyways

Tests are a brilliant way of containing the virus. As for 'the whole thing starts again', no one said STOP testing.

>>18049391
>>18049391
>>18049391
I'M UP 15K TODAY AFTER CASHING OUT MY INITIAL PLUS 5K IN PROFIT SUCK IT EUROPOORS

>>18041628
There aren‘t any American intellectuals, period.

>>18045934
>chinks dont manipulate numbers on everything they do

Ok Chang

>>18049867
> amerimutts doubling the circulating money supply in a month is free market

>>18041628
American blue checks. The real american intellectuals are more hidden.

>>18045934
>believing any data the Chinese release and that they don't manipulate their markets
only idiot here is you, go torrent some more fag anime

>>18045551
>t. dunning-kruger
corona is real but so's your retardation

>>18041628
This whole "we need to get back to work!" shit is retarded and I hope you all know it

I feel like a lot of anons in this thread need to hear this
If you’re an 80 year old man who would rather have the world economic come to a screeching halt than die of a disease, you’re an evil scumbag who lives only for yourself

>>18050188
this is the correct analysis.

blue checks are media-approved mediocrities.

>>18051153
Guess what fuckface, the economy has been at a halt since 2001. They've just been pumping money into kike scams since then to keep up the illusion of growth.

>>18041663
Doesn't even know the Mexican intellectuals meme

>>18048704
:^)

>>18045208
I forgot the value of someone's life is entirely determined their spending/earning

>>18044915
Cool. What about the mortality rate increase caused by broke and unemployed people not affording medication in the upcoming recession?

>>18042012
Wow, the same fucking Reddit "hospital capacity" argument. Care to explain what happens when millions are broke and unemployed due to hyperinflation and complete obstruction of the food service industry and food supply chains?

What happens to the hospital admittance then?

>>18052091

Life has no value and you know it.
What this is is fear and greed from the ignoble Boomer. The spoiled lecherous beastly generation of lead-poisoned, formula-fed minds raised in ignorance and abundance. The divorces, the offshoring, the sports car. They deserve massive amounts of pain. They fear DEATH because their lives were UNLIVED. They are trying to pull is into the grave with them, the ghoulish babies. They are not our elders. They are not wise. They squandered what they were given and now expect to extract what is left from their children. GIVE UP. YOUR MCMANSION IS MINE. YOUR MUSCLE CAR IS MINE. YOUR BOAT, YOUR CLUBS, YOUR MOWER. ALL WILL BE MINE

>>18045680
I call your bluff because I know you're all talk. ...and I'm not even who you were responding to. You type like a frustrated teenager who hasn't ever even properly defended themself. I know because people who are actually about that shit don't fucking talk like you do. You're a fucking fantasy genre faggot. Go back to your ponies, pussy boy.

Why can't the following be done instead of quarantining everyone:
>Quarantine elderly and those with pre-existing conditions that make them more vulnerable to Corona-chan under threat of fines
>Quarantine people who already have COVID-19 under threat of fines
>Go full retard mode on manufacturing masks and ventilators
>Encourage everyone to wear a mask in public but otherwise go about daily business
>Make delivery costs FREE for elderly and at-risk who are under quarantine (much cheaper than giving out EI to 30% of the population)
>Have medical workers treat people with less severe problems AT HOME
>Only admit those with the most severe issues into the hospital/ICU/etc

>>18052589
There's no way the quarantined wouldn't get infected. It would just be like a little Holocaust situation even if Americans would accept being put in military camps

>>18041982
Cuomo popular with trump voters? Buddy, you’re just wrong there.

>>18045864
>DURR HUR WHAT DO LIBERAL RETARDS IN SOME FANCY COLLEGE KNOW ABOUT SCIENCE AND NUMBERS I BET GRETCHEN HUMBURG IS BEHIND ALL THIS
>THAT GRAPH AINT EVEN GOT NO 3D GRAPHICS ON IT, IT DON'T LOOK NICE YOU'RE RETART

>>18041628
These fucking idiots are going to get hundreds of thousands if not millions killed

>>18052589
But then big pharma wouldn’t make money that way and the gubmint wouldn’t be able to use the situation as a blank cheque to introduce all the draconian big brother forced quarantine surveillance policies they want

>>18045811
Shutting down is the sensible management you utter simp

>>18041716
>merica

>>18041628
Greatest economy in the world and we can't even produce our own plastic gloves for hospitals

Ben Shapiro is the slimiest little rat kike and I don't think there's anyone more deserving of a [redacted] to the [redacted] and a couple of [redacted] up his [redacted] in Minecraft

>>18052589
>>18052667
>There's no way the quarantined wouldn't get infected
There's no way to prevent this from happening no matter what you do. The point is to slow the rate of infection substantially enough to make sure hospitals aren't overloaded. My point is why are we isolating everyone instead of just those at risk? I'm a 30 year old that lives alone in an apartment. What is the justification for putting me under isolation and forcing me to lose my job? If everyone who is at-risk is under isolation but I get to be productive that still does pretty much what putting everyone under isolation would. The vast majority of people who aren't at-risk who get the virus will get through it within a couple of weeks and then be asymptomatic and can't spread it.

>>18045327
You’re a fucking psychopath. I bet when you’re old the first thing you’d do is hole up with a ton of those same resources

>People want to get back to work
Said no one ever.

>>18052762
This. Short sighted retards worry only about their stocks

>>18045120
People literally don't understand exponential growth. In a day or two Trump will be pleading that we need mass quarantine.

>>18052796
Is this mersh from ROTC

>>18045327
Let's watch the people die to prop up the stock market. Sorry guys, looks like your mommy and daddy are just gonna have to take one for the team. America's fake economy and Ponzi scams can't crumble by any means necessary even if it means watching your asthmatic loved one drown in their own fluids.

>>18052801
Because those "at risk" are "at risk of dying even with hospital care", a large proportion of those who are not at risk still need trips to the hospital.

>>18052240
Only an American problem. Sucks to suck

>>18052924
A financial collapse is an American only problem? I actually wish I was as naive as you are, maybe I would be prematurely balding from the blackpill.

>>18051578
The original meme is Polish intellectuals, my newfag friend

>>18052801
>The point is to slow the rate of infection substantially enough to make sure hospitals aren't overloaded
That's a good point.
The amount of outrage they're creating is unfathomable. It will be like occupy wall street except 500x more people and apolitically PISSED workers not a bunch of hippies

>>18052924
>>18052924 #
Collapse of globalist finance is an American only problem? I actually wish I was as naive as you are, maybe I wouldnt be prematurely balding from all the blackpills

> shartellectual

>>18052589
>under threat of fines
>people are ok with this
>in America
Yeah, I'm thinking its over.

We should give the elderly Corona on purpose. Give it to the sickly, the poor, the disabled. Open up everything. Let the bodies pile up in the streets. We will shed the useless burdens and be stronger for it.

>>18045551
the olympics were postponed dumbass

>>18053001
Bernie Sanders is a retard no offense. Watching these two Jews interact is like watching WWE. They're doing a little dance for you

>>18041628
Coronachan is a boomer remover and some tards in here want to stop it for some reason.

>>18041700
Just because your life sucks ass doesnt mean mine does.

>>18041696

The numbers on the right are grossly inflated even.

>>18052906
>a large proportion of those who are not at risk still need trips to the hospital
I'm not saying I don't believe you but I haven't really heard anything to back this up. My point is there is a very large demographic that will mostly *not* require trips to the hospital. The majority of this demographic will not display any outwards symptoms whatsoever which means that even though they are carriers they will have a very small chance of spreading it. These people also coincidentally are the most productive people in society; younger to middle-aged individuals who are healthy and don't have pre-existing conditions. They should be allowed to continue working to keep the system running and to build up herd immunity

>>18053010
Both Canada and the UK are imposing fines if you are out having like a BBQ or a party with a fuck load of people. I'm sure some US states will follow quickly, especially places like California, NY, and Illinois

>>18052589
Miss me with that first point, and the threat of fines shit, and I’m on board

>>18053137
>threat of fines
Barely anyone is actually going to follow the quarantine unless they are incentivized to do so. Never underestimate the rank stupidity of your average joe.

>>18052702
>trump is unironically becoming less popular and newsom/cuomo becoming more popular among trump supporters courtesy of coronachan
>trump is unironically becoming less popular
less popular != less than popular, you fucking retard,
>cuomo becoming more popular
more popular != more than popular

>Cuomo popular with trump voters? Buddy, you’re just wrong there.
not wrong because i never said that you illiterate fuck.

>>18053010
People with guns might acccept it since it's coming from President Grandpa, but if this were under Obama all those LARP militias would be out in the streets executing wal-mart workers because there was a 2-per-customer limit on toilet paper.

>>18041663
burger here its all true

>>18041628
>Work you fools! Can't let the big guy lose money on his investment even though you need to realize by now that most things we buy are not that necessary.

>>18045680
I'm literally going to cough on you and your family.

>>18053192
....God you're not fucking wrong and that worries me.

>>18045326
*coughs at you*
*goes outside*
*walks within 6 feet of you at the supermarket*
*goes to Bass Pro Shop and buys a gun*

you going to cry about it, you fucking queer?

>>18048591
>>18041887
Yep, which is whats sure to happen when this gets out of control. People aren't going to be able to get proper treatment and will end up dying in droves due to lack of available ICUs because of a completely overloaded medical system (the same thing happened during the Spanish Flu too BTW). It also doesn't take into account the fact that as the virus burns through large numbers of the population its more and more likely to mutate into something much more deadly (also happened during the Spanish Flu).

>>18053307
If this shit happens, these neocon and libertarian likes will rue the day

>>18053307
All lies. Delusions concocted by a /pol/-addled mind. The death rate in Italy is majorly inflated. The reporting has been dreadful there, basically listing every fatality as a COVID-19 death with no causality established.

The US has nearly 50k cases and under 600 deaths. It will tackle this crisis and win. We can still practice safety measures while people are working.

>>18041628
normies have entered into the bargaining phase.
first was denial, then anger, now bargaining.
next is depression.
we are a long way from acceptance.

>>18045551
*coughs on you*

>>18053651
go to sleep trump

>>18053097
>feels the need to tell some anon on the internet that his life doesn't suck ass
yeah, i'm gonna have to doubt that one, bud

>>18053651
Under 600? You wont have under 1000 deaths by the end of the week or under 3000 by the end of the month,

>>18053711
Imagine if we actually cancelled the quarantine:
1. Everyone fucking dies in a nightmare
2. We admit money is more important than your life
3. The economy stays fucked because every other country is shut down and we remember the boomers outsourced our manufacturing base to pay for their early retirements and pensions

Lmao

>>18041628
Kikes really don't want their slaves to rest. Who cares if goyim die? We could be making billions right now! It's a financial holocaust!

>>18044413
There is a difference between leeching a subsistence amount of resources and the scale of leeching the investment class engages in. One is a rabbit that eats a few of your garden vegetables. The other extracts 20% of all vegetables grown from millions of gardens. Why listen to the mega parasites?

>>18053963
The first country to openly declare "the economy is worth more than your life citizen" and not have the populace start rioting will not be the last to start opening up.

>>18041696
This is with medical infrastructure NOT completely overwhelmed which if things keep progressing at the same rate, it will be. On top of that, ain't nobody wanting to pay for healthcare in Burgerland the death rate will triple.

>>18042312
They haven't even issued an end date plan to get everything to normalize. They plan on making this a permanent police state otherwise a detailed plan would have been released

>>18045634
this

>>18043781
"Asymptomatic cases have symptoms "

Fucking retard

>>18041855
Broke
>>18046788
Woke
>>18047214
Bespoke

>>18045680
kek

>>18041628
I mean, personally I don't understand why the plan hasn't always been "self quarantine if you are at risk, everyone else goes back to normal living" for a few months.

If only we lived in a capitalist society instead of a communist paradise where there's not enough hospital space and respirators because muh equality.
If there was true capitalism, people would just buy this shit if they needed it, close to zero major businesses would shut down, and all the risk / reward would plainly express itself in the economy. I know this will never happen, because people suck such big balls.
All those spring breakers? Imagine them making a risk / reward assesment if they knew the next bed space and respirator set them back $65,000/day today and maybe still $20,000 a month from now? Because of course industry demand would sky-rocket much more quickly as is always the case when profit motive and freedom are involved. No shutdown of the economy, no market crash, just a certain percentage of pussies would get fired not showing up for work because they allowed themselves to get a pre-existing condition and are now scared, thus eventually strengthening the economy by getting their weak genetic bloodlines out of the workforce. People are so fucking retarded and there's no way to directly bet on this or I would already be in the decamillions.

>>18045811
>>18045357
what a fucking retard , that's glorious.
>Dude China , Japan , Korea , Europe are all overreacting , I know it's just a flu because /pol/ said so.

What happens when 20% of your pop can't work because they are sick and contagious then ? What happens when they can't get proper medical care and die of respiratory failure which is VERY WELL documented all over Europe now. They also go to work to infect everyone else ?
Being 10 times deadlier than the flu isn't even the problem it's that it is 3 time more contagious.

And you'd be the first to run to the hospital when you start coofing your lungs out instead of just diying like a man and making everyone a favour

>>18053183
also cuomo is losing popularity with democrats

to put it in other words, cuomo is gaining popularity with capitalists and losing popularity with socialists.

>>18044765
Yawn not an exception at all, which is why we are talking about it

>end the lockdown
>illegals who can't get healthcare start dying in droves
>peasant niggers start dying in droves
>finally the rest of the actual humans can get jobs again and get this country back on track
>boomer politicians also die
it seems like ending the quarantine and allowing the virus to spread is the best option

USA #1 infected soon

clearly stupid enough to let this get worse

>>18041696
>Source: Chinese Center for Desease Control and Prevention