/biz/ - Business & Finance

No, we must learn to speak bat now and our new overlords will take care of us.

chinese hate niggers

>>18032039
go spend a month in china and get back to us

>>18032090
>>18032161
As a black male chinese people love me . They tend to be extremely happy and surprise that I can speak there language. I also have an chinese girlfriend

Is the language difficult to learn?

Chinese are extremely racist against blacks, much more than amerimutts or eurocucks.

>>18032039
How do you feel about poor quality steel?

>>18032039
Any language helps, Chinese is a good option given that more than a billion people speak. It can also help you to fuck qt Chinese women

There is no universally useful "business language" (outside of maybe english) because what foreign language is useful to you differs widely based on your personal industry and circumstances. Do you have or plan to make business in China and are you personally in a position within your enterprise to be the one conducting negotiations/visiting sites/etc.? Because if not, it doesn't really matter if you know any language, chinese or not.
Like, I used to work for an engineering company in Germany that sold industrial washing/cleaning systems for factories and while we did have some business in China, our biggest foreign markets were Russia and Turkey. Just because that's how our specific business turned out.

And on a bit of a side note, learning a language for your job is awful. Learn a language because you want to, because there's something you want to experience in that language in your free time. Having a personal investment and something to look forward too is a great help for learning as well.

>>18032403
My friend speaks Mandarin and visits China, he gets no direct racism as such, they just think he's a rapper...but he's a project manager really.

>>18032039
Understanding the language of the undisputed top rival to the US is not a bad hedge, anon.
Then again, it is a hard language to learn unless you spend significant time in China and, let's be honest, living in China sucks if you do it for long enough. It can be fun for a while but when you want to "settle down" and actually be a functional member of society with a wife and kids, you are much better off in the West. All Chinese understand this which is why so many of them buy properties stateside so that their kids can go to US public schools.

>>18032775
It's very competitive and cut-throat in the East if you want to get ahead. If you don't, you can get by managing a noodle shop in the country just chatting up random people all day (which none of the younger folks want)
There's a reason the suicide rate is so high in the East, but let's be fair, it's rising rapidly in the West as well. Going to school from 7:30 to 4pm, followed by after school programs until 10pm sucks a big one.

>>18032304
>>18032039
nigger

>>18032304
Nice joke, Chinese people are incredibly racist.

>>18032304
Based Laoshu. For some reason there are a lot of blacks who take the multilingual pill.

>>18032337
It's a tonal language which is extremely difficult for Americans/English speakers to learn. Most other languages you were already raised to know the difference between "a" "à" "á" and "â", but it can still be learned.

>>18032039
It's ok if you do import and website selling. With a shitty WP Woocommerce site you can sell shit 10x cheaper, buy in shenzen sell in LA. Works with good advertising.

>>18033164
>Nice joke, Chinese people are incredibly racist

>>18033707
Can you explain more?

>>18033164
unprecedented cope

>>18032039
There’s absolutely no point in even trying to learn. If you have no way of truly immersing yourself in the language (which would take at least a decade), then it’s a complete waste of time. You’re better off learning another language, or learning to program.

>>18032337
It is among the most difficult languages to learn, along with Arabic.

>>18032039
Are you done with Japanese already language learning black man?

I learned and moved to Taiwan. It's pretty comfy.
Mandarin is useless for business though. You will never be better than a western-born chink. Learn Japanese instead, it's easier too.

>>18035617
But Japanese have no influence but cringey worrgy anime and a dying culture

>>18032065
If you still the the virus was transmitted through a bat you're a dumbass

>>18032039
>That one thread where the guy begged everyone to learn something other then Chinese because he was about to kill himself from his Company assigning him as its Chinese liaison and his interactions with the Chinese were a special kind of hell

>>18032039
Learning chinese culture and business structure>>>>>>>>>>>>learning mandarin

>>18032337
Yes. Expect to practice for 8-10 years before being able to communicate proficiently

>>18037096

Bump a ru

>>18033164
i have lots of asian friends from all over and speak the primary asian languages and can confirm not a single asian ive met hasnt been racist. they are all racist and for the large part open about it.

Does anyone have the copy pasta about the guy begging you not to learn Chinese because they fuck you over at every opportunity they get?

He was buying steel off them and basically received scrap pig metal with no recourse to the ordered product

>>18039281
I have lots of asian friends from all over and speak a primary asian languages and I can confirm not a single asian I have met has been racist. they are all not racist and for the large part detest racist about it.

>>18032304
They "love" you as a circus animal type thing.

>>18039852
WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY DO ONCE YOU LEAVE? LMAO STUPID NAIVE KEK THINKING BUGMEN CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOUR PEOPLE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS

>>18032039
Chinese is incredibly hard to learn.
Unless you want to move to China, I don't think it's worth it.
The majority of the world is learning English as a 2nd language.
So, business wise, you're covered with English.
Also, learning a language is a multi-year commitment.
If you're American, I don't think there's any point in learning any language other than Spanish.

>>18039557
The trick is to learn Chinese but never let anyone know you understand it. Trust me on this one.

>>18039990
How true is this ? I know chinese I was thinking of putting it on my resume

>>18037292
>Learning chinese culture and business structure>>>>>>>>>>>>learning mandarin
This is the right answer

>>18039990
>The trick is to learn Chinese but never let anyone know you understand it.
This is a close second

>>18040638
No, the point is you don't tell the chinamen that you know chinese, so you can understand what they're saying about you behind your back. You can tell your employer (as long as they understand a covert operative is valuable)

>>18033100
hey! that was mean :(

>>18032337
Its difficult because there's really three parts to it:
Reading it. Words sometimes reveal how to speak them based on their radicals, sometimes they don't. Its kind of a crapshoot. You can sometimes know what a word means by the parts its made out of. Sometimes you can't.
Writing it: Really we're talking about typing it in this day and age. This means you either need to learn Pinyin and use the relatively inferior pinyin to type, or learn bopomofo (zhuyin) and do it that way. This is definitely the superior way to type it, but requires learning those a small set of character keys that make up the various intonations of Mandarin.
Speaking it: Learning to speak it is honestly the "easiest" part. Parts of Mandarin are almost caveman like in that there are no articles. The hardest part for some people is learning the tones. Tone matters and can transform a word into another word. Most of the time, thanks to context, its not a problem, but it can get you sometimes.
I've been learning Mandarin for about 3 years now and I've made solid inroads. I can read enough bits and pieces of more simple writing to understand the gist of things, and when I'm writing things myself with my set of characters I know, I can write full sentences on a variety of subjects. I can speak it okay, but still have to stop at times to look a word up.
The most important thing to ANY language is immersion of some sort. Watching Mandarin spoken videos is a great way to get some of that, but I still find myself relying on subtitles. If you want a real challenge, get yourself a Mandarin dubbed (with Mandarin subs) TV show (anime, kids show, doesn't matter) and watch that. If you find yourself not understanding, pause it and look the characters up.
No shit, I used Japanese childrens shows dubbed into Mandarin for this. A good example is Shima Shima Tora no Shimajirō:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBeFdmuUC4E
This is because they're going to speak more simply, so its easier for a new speaker.

>>18033745
Yoyo whats this niggas youtube channel again? I remember finding him years ago, he know like 50 languages.

>>18032304
dear hei gwei, pls don't take our women and make some gwai wu babies.
regards,
chinaman

>>18032039
I wasted three years learning Chinese.
want to shoot myself in the head

>>18041730
https://m.youtube.com/user/laoshu505000

>>18032039
Chinese is a shit language sont learn it

>>18041662
Thanks anon, informative.

>>18032304
they like you because you speak their language, if you were just another porch monkey they WILL be extremely racist against you

Does anyone have the screen cap of anon posting about how no one should learn Chinese and then telling a bunch of stories about Chinese being turbo Jews while he was out facilitating steel purchases in China?

>>18032039
I learned Chinese. I did it because I was interested in it and wanted to. I lived there for a while too as a consequence of it, and I met a lot of people who claimed that they were learning it for business reasons. But it turns out, none of the people said this learned Chinese at all. You see, When you're a white person in China, you never have to speak Chinese. You can just point at shit and say "zhege" and rely on your english speaking sexpat bubble's coterie of chinese girlfriends to translate everything important for you.

If you do not want to learn Chinese because you do not like it, and you are not willing to engage with and embrace the culture and especially if you feel that you as a white westerner are superior to Chinese people, then the only outcome of trying to learn Chinese for business is that you will become a bitter, pathetic and obsessed sexpat (and a failure at the language).

>>18043684
I don't have the screencap, but I remember that.

>>18032535
English is clearly the universal business language.

>>18043684
Yeah I'm sure everyone does. I know that guy btw. He was trying to jew them by buying grey-market steel and kept getting fucked because he wasn't good at it. To survive in the cutthroat world of Chinese grey-market resellers you have to move through China like a fish through water. He couldn't, and he drowned.

>>18043717
oh here it is

>>18043739
I don't know man that sounds like a very Chinesey thing to say.

>>18043717
Bless you

>>18043739
There is something uncanny about the way Chinks type. It just feels slightly off when I read posts like this.