/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17977415
And 1-8 million will die. Come December I’m going to have me a giggle at all the clips from people partying in Florida and shit.

>>17977415
700 people died in Italy today. Can’t wait till Trump announces that number of US deaths in 24hrs. We’re nowhere near the bottom

>>17977415
Becuz in the US, they didn't test shit.
They lack the testing kits, medical equipment and hospitals are all overwhelmed.
A fuckton of nurses and doctors are already infected and some have already died.
Some nurses and doctors are already jumping ship and saying fuck this.

There was a testing lag in the US for months and they're only just starting to get real testing in. European countries mostly have restrictions on who gets to be tested (Italy is still restricted only to severe cases for instance), or otherwise lack testing kits, putting something of a ceiling on how many cases they can report. Truthfully we're all probably roughly in the same boat, and lower numbers percentage-wise are either from active coverups or a simple lack of testing equipment.

>>17977516
If I was in the medical profession I’d give serious consideration to just ghosting. Front line folks get my utmost admiration.

>>17977415
Firstly the numbers coming from China is BULLSHIT.

Every infected individual infects 2.5 others who then infect another 2.5 and so on and so fourth, also take into consideration you can show no symptoms but still be infectious for over a week.

>>17977554
Nobody mentioned Chinkland, you goddamn Schizo

>>17977415
>Something is seriously wrong with the spread in the US. The number of cases has x10 every 8 days.

Have you looked out the window? Nobody until like two days ago was taking this seriously and was still going out to meet up with groups of people in public

Someone post those speculative data of ~8mil customers dropping off a single Chinese phone company's customer rolls from December to February. And consider that the middle of a national quarantine is an odd time to switch your phone plan.

>>17977592
anon literally said "more rapid than the spread rate in east asia"

but everybody knows China is fudging their numbers

>>17977681
We still have a live thread about that, here is it >>17967951

>>17977681
>>17967951
Ongoing thread. Spoopy stuff

>>17977415
>The number of cases grows proportional to the number of tests manufactured, shipped, and administered.
Everyone already has it and it's not a big deal.

>>17977415
A linear graph suggests there's a bottleneck with the amount of tests the US can perform. In other words there are more cases than tests available.

>>17977415
Normies just finding out about exponential growth

a month ago it was in china
a week ago it was in your city
yesterday your neighbour has it
today you have it

>>17977415
21 March
a bit late
but finally you are awake
next stop: Denial
you should hurry up and fast forward to Acceptance if you want to make it

>>17977547

My gf is a nurse and I shit you not, the hospital sent an email to everyone that they were suspending vacation days because they were so understaffed from so many quits. I'm trying to convince her to just quit and not go in Monday.

>>17978426
My sister works in a hospital laboratory, about 2/3rd's her department has been pulled to do emergency COVID testing and she herself is in quarantine because she was on a plane(she has been sick the past week too, waiting on test results, but she says it's like a normal cold)

>>17977800
Arizona numbers are absolutely a scam. People could not/cannot get tested. Real retard shit.

>>17977687
this may be surprising but China isn't the only country in East Asia

>>17977516
They don't event have equipment like face masks to protect themselves because everyone bought them all up.

>>17978461
it's the same story everywhere. i've heard of at least 5 people that may have it, but everyone that tried to get tested couldn't and was told to go to the hospital if they had trouble breathing.

>>17977415
This is my model , that can be worst case scenario if this pandemic burn trought whole population

>>17980101
Data for USA

>>17980047
Not even remotely true. Why do people say stupid shit like this?

Hospital's mask and glove supply chain is completely separate from home depot and Amazon's.

>>17977547
>>17978426
Fucking cowards. When you choose to be a doctor or nurse as a profession you’re making a commitment to help others. Quitting and running away from your duties when things get serious is pathetic. Who is going to man the hospitals and care for the sick if every doctor and nurse decides to high tail it home and try to save their own asses? They’re responsible for the lives of potentially every person in the country. If they all quit then many many people will die

>>17977415
Coronavirus is fucking nothing. I had it in January. These exponential charts are retarded. It's just about testing. The thing has been here for months and tens of millions of people have already recovered from it.

>>17980233
This. Unfortunately it happened during the Black Plague and it’ll happen every other pandemic too.

>>17980047
Wrong. The panic buying of masks actually helped medical professionals because it stimulated higher production and created surpluses. Now that people have learned masks won’t 100% definitely save you, they all stopped buying at once and the price plummeted, meaning that there are now actually shortages.

>>17980233
>system actively tries to make your live as shit as possible.
>still try your hardest
>crisis happens
>instead of help from goverment you actually get shit on more
i would quit on the spot

>>17977415
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jfx7PnMtCeY

>>17980233
lol this, imagine soldiers during war quitting and going home because they might get blown up, in fact chances are they will, this shit is like 2% mortality rate, which is high but still nowhere near as high as war. in other words, women and sissies are weak as fuck

>>17977415

>>17977516
>>17980047
>>17977547
>Some nurses and doctors are already jumping ship and saying fuck this.
My Grandfather didn't have any choice; He is 75 years old and in his words "without any way to test for the virus, the situation has become untenable". The other doctors have given him a leave of absense so he has bunkered down with Grandma now.

>>17981251
Thats because they didnt have a choice in world war 1 and 2. All the others that went in voluntarily is a different matter. Albeit nowadays a draft would very likely fail cause most would probably go into hiding.

>>17977415
Yeah, and then a billion on April 8th, and then a trillion by May
By Christmas there'll be an infected American for every Hydrogen atom in the universe

>>17981264
might be right, but i think its mostly because they believed in their country back then.

i for example would never fight in a war for my country, as it is a satanic shithole and I will not kill or be killed for a politicians profit.

I will gladly die for God though. 100%

>>17977415
US has 3rd world-tier infrastructure and undisciplined population. They are going to get fucked hard.

>>17980243
No shit. I fully expect to be ordered to wear a dress tomorrow here in clown world

>>17980233
nope die on your own.
we are not slaves.
its every man for himself.
fuck you and you’re false morals.

>>17981487
You became a dr for the wrong reason then

>>17978426
How dare you, does the Hippocratic oath mean nothing to you?

>>17980149
CDC is literally asking doctors and nurses to use scarves and bandanas you goddamn mouthbreather

>>17981293
The orange Dotard kept telling them that it's just the sniffles and they acted accordingly.
The US is ogre.

>>17980233
>Be Doctor or nurse
>Masks run out
>Hazmat suits run out
>Zero fucking protection
>Every ventilator is used up
>Fucking Quarantine protocols are not followed
>Disease contagious as fuck and death rate rising by the min

I can think of why they would not want to report to work to save your entitled ass.

>>17981251
>>17981264
Guess you forgot about the mountains of draft dodgers

>>17977516
>Becuz in the US, they didn't test shit.
>They lack the testing kits
It's the same everywhere. Stop drinking the MSM kool-aid.

Here in western Europe only the severe cases are tested due to the shortage of tests.

>>17980233
this is because 95% of nurses are women and probably around 40% of doctors are women. women have zero concept of honor or sacrifice. they will cut and run as soon as they sense danger. meanwhile, in italy, old ass 80 year old male doctors are coming out of retirement to help. females are truly worthless.

>>17977554
Are the numbers from Japan and Korea bullshit too?
Because the curve there has flattened hard as well.

>>17977516

Even if they test you it aint bringing you shit since there is no medication.
They will only put you in quarantine you and look once a day if you are alive.
I'd rather stay at home with symptoms than to go test myself and get probably infected with the right virus.

>>17981642
your country's fault then, here in Germany we were at 160k test/week just last week

>>17977554
>>17977592
I don't buy that the chinkerinos are free of the virus at all..

>>17982984
Congratulations.
Meanwhile in the rest of the world, lack of testing is the norm.

>>17983029
exactly, your country's fault.

>>17980233
>When you choose to be a doctor or nurse as a profession you’re making a commitment to help others.

>he things people get into med school or become a nurse to help people
kek, do you realize most people go there to achieve higher status and income? If doctor was a low paying profession no one would become one.

>>17983038
My country ordered a ton of test kits (and masks for instance), but they're not being manufactured in my country so we're pretty much on a waiting list.

I think a massive pay raise for health personnel would be in order. When they signed their contract there was no mention of immediate danger of death, so now that what they have to provide and sacrifice has increased, the compensation should too.

>>17983178
>health personnel
>When they signed their contract there was no mention of immediate danger of death
Bro.

>>17983178
>there was no mention of immediate danger of death
This board is so underage and fucking retarded

>>17983194
>>17983237
Could you expand on that? I'm a doctor and in my work contract the word death is not mentioned. I would not do any job where I have a non-negligible risk of dying. I get ~70€ monthly as compensation for the risk of infection.

Special police units get more pay than do regular police partly because their job is more dangerous. The jobs of doctors and nurses are now more dangerous than previously.

>>17983273
>I'm a doctor and in my work contract the word death is not mentioned.
> I would not do any job where I have a non-negligible risk of dying.
ok this is satire

>>17977415
And people think we are in a bull market

>>17983283
It is not. I won't die for strangers.

>>17983298
k

>>17983301
Could you just make explicit what it is that you want to say?

>>17983314
Start with pic related.

>>17977415
Tfw European deaths surpass chinese

>>17983319
Explicit would be something like "your risk of dying is low because you are supposedly young", but I can only guess that you meant that.

The statistic you posted does not make any statement about my risk of infection or death. Google the difference between a prospective study and a cross-sectional study, and about how findings from a study apply only to the population it was conducted in.

>>17983333
Why are you so angry?
If you don't want to be a doctor anymore because of corona, just stop and go home.

>>17980101
This is my model. Prove me wrong.

>>17977554
>>17983022

They're not free, but what China did once they realized the Chinese new year was around the corner was to completely isolate the epicenter (Wuhan). They put in place harsher quarantine rules than many others and so yeah - they probably DID cull the spread. However, their society is still in semi-lockdown and they're going to have to make a decision on whether to keep it that way for years, or open up and risk the infection spreading again.

https://archive.is/6HdUi https://archive.is/IwfyV https://archive.is/cC8Sj

ALL PROOF OF CLAIMS IN MSM ARTICLES

>50% OF GLOBAL N95 MASK PRODUCTION LOCATED IN CHINA

>IN JANUARY CHINA NATIONALIZED THE PRODUCTION FACILITIES OF 3M AND BRISTOL MYER ALONG WITH EXPORT BAN ON N95'S

>IN THE 2 WEEKS FOLLOWING HUBEI LOCKDOWN CHNA BOUGHT OUT GLOBAL N95 SUPPLY TO TUNE OF 56M

>IN THE 24 HOUR PERIOD OF JANUARY 30TH 20 MILLION ALONE WERE ORDERED

>CHINESE NATIONALS ACROSS EUROPE, NORTH AMERICA, AND OCEANIA BOUGHT OUT RETAIL LOCATION AND SHIPPED BACK TO CHINA

>CRITICAL SHORTAGE OF N95 MASKS ACROSS THE REST OF WORLD OUTSIDE ASIA SURGE CAPACITY IS CRIPPLED AS MEDICAL WORKERS DONT EVEN HAVE REMOTELY CLOSE TO ENOUGH

>SWEEPING AND COMPLETE CHINESE TACTICAL VICTORY THEY CAN NOT BE CALLED OUT YET BECAUSE THEY CAN AND HAVE THREATENED TO PULL ALL MEDICAL EXPORTS TO THE UNITED STATES INCLUDING 80% OF GENERIC DRUGS

>>17980101
why is it gauss shaped, seems artificial

>>17982984
source?

dont believe that, and im german

>>17981642
Retarded trump apologist.
Everyone should be testing more, but for the past two months the US has been lagging behind other countries by an order of magnitude or two, and various states are doing like 100 tests a day still.
Very few major countries fucked up this badly, maybe Turkey and such.

>>17983352

China imports like 50% of it's food. It is not self-sufficient. There is no way they can hardball anyone in a situation like this, because the rest of the world could cause famine in their country within a month if they wanted to.

>>17977415
It's just a flu, bro. ;)

>>17978426
Hope you and your gf get the rope you absolute fuck

>>17977415
>same /biz/ that fell for a prostitute larp is full of happooners
imagine my surprise

>>17983401
They already fucked the entirety of the non asian world, I dont think you even remotely understand how critical having the N95 masks is for medical workers nor how severe the current shortage is. The CDC has issued guidelines to reuse masks a long as possible (n doctors are going 1 week or more with a disposable mask IF they even have one), next they recommend medical staff to craft their own, and as a last resort to use a damp piece of clothing. Every single doctor and nurse that goes down to the illness is lost treatment capacity, as you see in italy they are already practicing triage as of a week ago, now they have thousands of medicals staff coming down with the illness their exponential growth will only be accelerating.

>>17983401
Ya, about that
https://nationalpost.com/pmn/health-pmn/brazils-bolsonaro-says-he-could-turn-to-chinas-xi-for-medical-equipment
>Brazil’s President Jair Bolsonaro said on Friday he might contact Chinese President Xi Jinping about acquiring medical equipment to contain the coronavirus pandemic, either buying or receiving on loan or through donation.
>Backing away from a diplomatic spat set off by his son blaming China for the health crisis, Bolsonaro said China and Brazil are countries that have the same mutual economic interests, as his health minister warned that the Brazilian health system only has the capacity to deal with the crisis for 30 days. (Reporting by Anthony Boadle Editing by Chris Reese)

>>17983390
>Everyone should be testing more
Most aren't.

>for the past two months the US has been lagging behind other countries by an order of magnitude or two
Trump was one of the first western leaders to call for a Travel ban.
The EU even "condemned" him for it, pic related.
But then a week later the EU started implementing travel bans themselves.

Trump was faster to respond than the EU.
But stay seething though.

>>17977800
The graph is on a logarithmic scale

>>17981253
yeah but think about those poor spring break bros down in florida
can't stop the beer pong for some chinese virus bro

>>17977649
This. I have been telling people since January we aren’t acting fast enough. 2 months later my most intelligent friends texted saying I was right, but plenty others are still busy doing dumb shit like going to Disneyworld or vacationing in Miami going to the Beach or going out to the Hamptons to party with everyone out there right now.

The problem is not necessarily the stupidity of people in the US. People are stupid everywhere. The problem is that the leaders of our country and states are still acting like everything is relatively fine, trying to wait until the last moment to make serious changes, whereas by doing that they are making the changes too late to be effective. Look at Cuomo: 3 days ago he said he’d never quarantine NYC or force people to stay at home. I said then he’d eat his words and yesterday he did. The problem is he should have done that a month ago. So we are now 4 weeks later to react than appropriate and probably 3 weeks later than the equivalent of what CHINA was doing. Given the REPORTED cases in China (if you can believe that number), this means NYC will likely reach infections in the hundreds of thousands to low millions — now unavoidable.

Where I live, Nashville, they still have the tourist block open and it’s still full with retards getting drunk and infecting each other every day

>>17983640

You are not wrong, but you also sound extremely egotistical. Did we really need to know how right you were? The point could have been made without that lol

>>17983527
>my farrow amricans.

How much malpractice, do you think? I'm thinking a lot. Bound to be making mistakes with that kind of workload.

>>17983386
Source: dude trust me lmao

>>17983527
As i remember the "condemnation" from EU, it was because the decision was made unilateral i.e. the EU was a upset because didn't called them and asked their opinion the travel ban.

The EU is far more retarded than anyone can truly try and comprehend, a tesseract of retardation.
A bunch of has-been politicians, believing they have any real powers or authority.

>>17983640
People straight up buy cops off with hookers where I live. Last night I saw a cop car parked by an apartment complex, a civilian lookout up top in a window. One guy in the cop car. Other one was up getting his turn. Guy in the car saw me looking and took off for a bit. Came back 5 minutes later.

So, while all of that was going on, there was a drunken street race going on on the main street. Full cars, people hanging out windows. Bottles go flying. Screaming. Big clusterfuck virus fest.

TL;DR People just don't give a shit.

>>17983715
The individual nations of the EU themselves only started implementing travel bans days after Trump.
The point was that Trump was early in taking protective measures against corona, not late like the MSM want us to believe.

Didn't see there was a post about this already, >>17983771

>>17983527
>Most aren't.
Do you even understand your own language you retarded mutt? I said everyone should be testing more. Obviously they aren't, otherwise I wouldn't be recommending that.

>muh travel ban
The topic was testing.

>>17984503
You can't blame Trump for lack of testing, when most countries in the world don't test enough.

And you can't say Trump lagged behind other countries in his response to corona, when he was ahead of most countries in his response to corona.

Stay seething.

>>17984584
>You can't blame Trump for lack of testing, when most countries in the world don't test enough.
Yes I can blame the US (not even Trump specifically, but get off his cock) for lack of testing if they're doing less tests by one or two orders of magnitude. Just like I can praise SK for being far ahead of the pack (even if they should continue to test and test more.) The entire caveat was about that.

>And you can't say Trump lagged behind other countries in his response to corona, when he was ahead of most countries in his response to corona.
I was only talking about testing. The post I replied to was about testing. The thread is about testing.

>>17981251
>this shit is like 2% mortality rate, which is high but still nowhere near as high as war
Total US wartime casualties for ww2 was 400 thousand. At a 2% fatality rate this will kill millions.

>>17984616
>Yes I can blame the US (not even Trump specifically, but get off his cock) for lack of testing if they're doing less tests by one or two orders of magnitude
But they aren't.
In the vast majority of countries, only severe cases are being tested.
The US is way ahead of most European countries with the drive-thru testing facilities.

>I was only talking about testing.
You said the US was lagging behind, which is blatantly false.
Nearly ALL countries in the world only test severe cases.

And it's certainly not true in any general sense, see the travel ban.

>>17981660
I don't agree. Women when put into appropriate position, like caring for others, which nursing is, willl prove to be reliable for the most part. Just think of WW2 hospitals.

>>17984584
>Outright says he wanted to keep infected people on the cruiseliner and didn't want to do more testing because 'it would make the numbers go up'
>Said we would have this settled within a few weeks and the US wouldn't get it bad
>His administration disbanded the pandemic response group
>Likely knew about the US' severe lacking in a potential response to a flu-like pandemic as now known from leaks about research done into it
>Called the freakout over the virus a hoax
Yeah you can blame him a little bit

>>17984674
>In the vast majority of countries, only severe cases are being tested.
An absurd claim.The US has done less tests so far than Australia (population: 25 millions, just 1k cases vs 20k cases for the US) and less than Canada (pop: 40 millions.)
France, which is one of the European countries lagging behind the rest because they mostly just test severe cases, still has more tests done per capita than the US (despite having roughly half as many confirmed cases.) The fact that France has less confirmed cases than the US despite doing more tests per capita and focusing on severe cases is in fact the clearest proof that the US totally dropped the ball on this.
>The US is way ahead of most European countries with the drive-thru testing facilities.
When did they start doing drive-thru testing facilities and how many tests have those performed? South Korea started in early february.

>>17977415

>>17984783
Pretty much all public authorities made statements mitigating the impact.

Remember that press conference with the Italian minister and the WHO delegate by his side, saying they confined the virus after 6 deaths in Italy?

>>17984788
>The US has done less tests so far than Australia (population: 25 millions, just 1k cases vs 20k cases for the US) and less than Canada (pop: 40 millions.)
>France, which is one of the European countries lagging behind the rest because they mostly just test severe cases, still has more tests done per capita than the US
lmao source pls

>South Korea started in early february.
South Korea was the first to be hit after China.

>>17983792
US testing capacity is still far behind what we need to effectively contain new cases and stop unnecessary spreading. Until that happens, Trump is and was too late.

>>17984844
Almost every country is only testing severe cases.

Almost no country is using testing as a means to contain new cases and stop unnecessary spreading.

>>17984823
>source pls
The gap would have been even starker a week or two ago, before the US finally started doing dozens of thousands of tests a week.

And you failed to explain how France could have less confirmed cases than the US if they "only" test severe cases and do more tests per capita.

>>17984876
where china number?

>>17984975
It seems China doesn't share that number, nor should you trust them if they do.

>>17977554
Diamond princess is the only sample that matters

>>17984876
Let's compare to the EU:

Germany: 12% of those tested were positive
France: 34% of those tested were positive
UK: 6% of those tested were positive
Belgium: 15% of those tested were positive
Austria: 17% of those tested were positive

And now the US: 19% of those tested were positive

Seems like the US is very much in the middle of what the EU is doing in terms of testing "redundance".

Stay seething, and stay consuming CNN and Twitter checkmarks.

>>17984999
checked. chicom fucks.

>>17977415
Imagine being an american where if you were to get tested for corona virus you would have to pay atleast 1000$ USD out of your own pocket. I think people would rather die than spend money on a test

>>17983449
>>17983498

So? What does this have to do with what I said?

>>17983319
I wonder if there's a chart for this but for people who have been hospitalized due to pneumonia. It could give a bit of perspective on how many people would die if there was no healthcare, just curious.

>>17985281
their curent leverage over us is vastly greater than any short term leverage other than military action we have

>>17985283
>I wonder if there's a chart for this but for people who have been hospitalized due to pneumonia.
It would make the corona hospitalization chart look like a speck of dust.
Elderly people get pneumonia from looking at a picture of snow.

>>17977415
When it is all said and done, the mortality rate for this illness will be >1%. We simply do not have the mathematical data to confirm some of the numbers being thrown around right now. John Ioannidis explains this. https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/
People need to understand that what the medical professionals did when they quarantined the Diamond Princess cruise ship was incredibly stupid and dangerous. It dramatically increased the contagion risk and STILL the mortality rate was 1% in what was mostly an older population.

at this point it's safe to assume that the official number of cases represent 10% of all cases on the low end, and 1% on the high end. essentially there could be 2-million people with it already in the US alone. If that's true then this is truly a meme virus since 300 deaths out of 2 million, or shit even half that, is like below seasonal flu territory.

>>17984695
I do agree. I am a surgeon and many of my colleagues(majority of whom are female) openly stated they won't be coming to work when this gets bad. Let that sink in. What are you gonna do, tell them they'll never find work afterwards? We already have a severe shortage of medical staff in Europe. WWII nurses weren't facing caring for people who can easily infect them, killing or maiming the unfortunate.

>>17985495
>at this point it's safe to assume that the official number of cases represent 10% of all cases on the low end, and 1% on the high end. essentially there could be 2-million people with it already in the US alone. If that's true then this is truly a meme virus since 300 deaths out of 2 million, or shit even half that, is like below seasonal flu territory.
where do you get these numbers or are you just hope-coping?

>>17977516
They stopped testing everywhere.
China, europe, us. It spreads to fast and its pointless to test. You really just need to assume that everyone you come in contact with has it already.

>>17985531

Every epidemiologist has their own theory, but the early estimated 2% mortality rate was based solely around "confirmed cases", whereas the number of actual cases is known to be much, much higher. Most people show very mild symptoms, and are either not tested because it is not deemed necessary or do not even recognize themselves that they have the virus.

The mortality rate has even been theorized to be as low as 0.1%, but it's certainly lower than 2% - that's for sure.

>>17977415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg

here you go, since you are clearly retarded.

>>17985531
Around 20,000 people in the US have been confirmed to have it. there are almost 300 people that have died from it here. The info is readily available online.

>>17985018
And what does that sample say?

>>17977415
>This would be much more rapidly than the spread rate in Europe, and significantly more rapid than the spread rate in east asia.
why?
because amerimutts are fucking retarded

>>17983386
>>17983705
"In der vergangenen Woche wurden laut KBV allein im ambulanten Bereich mehr als 100.000 Corona-Tests durchgeführt."

https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronavirus-testet-deutschland-zu-wenig-im-vergleich-zu-suedkorea-a-4fb86f9e-1a5f-4434-b05f-7fad3dda34f4-amp

>>17983075
It is a high paying job partially because you have to deal with diseases and sick people all the time, putting yourself at risk. That's the idea.

>>17981691
Massive cultural disparity. Like you've certainly heard the division of Eastern and Western philosophy, right? That exists for a reason. They were already wearing masks for sniffles to prevent transmission before any of this hit, it's just regular. They also carry personal hand sanitizer, apparently.

This as opposed to the tough guys in FL right now spring breaking that are going to drag this shit all over the country. And they're probably the best vector for it since it's teachers and students and their family units. From K-college.

>>17985632
There is a significant lag between first symptoms and death. Indeed the elderly and immunocompromised die quick, but the younger and more fit patients die after weeks on the vents.

>>17981642
cope, trump tranny

>>17985597
>Massive cultural disparity. Like you've certainly heard the division of Eastern and Western philosophy, right? That exists for a reason. They were already wearing masks for sniffles to prevent transmission before any of this hit, it's just regular. They also carry personal hand sanitizer, apparently.
They are still just guessing. Unless they test every person at any given time, it's a guess. The closest we have to an idea is S. Korea with their massive testing campaign. Moreover, the CFR goes up as the hospitals get clogged, not to mention the number of treatable non-covid cases that die, because there isn't anyone to treat them. You want me to clip your aneurysm? sorry buddy, I got 100 vented veggies I gotta watch over.

>>17985485
mortality rate is contingent in this case on how contagious the virus is. this virus is very contagious, so even with a low mortality rate, many people are going to die because many more people (60-70% of each nations population) are going to contract it

>>17986029
I apologise for the green text, something goofed.

>>17980047
Aren't those mask for your snot and saliva not getting into the patient while operating? It's not supposed to protect you but others.
So at best it serve as a limited protection for the public if you were walking around infected with a face mask.

>>17981487
>A doctor
>Anime image
Yea, okay buddy

>>17983390

Don't worry about cornoa, your anger is already eating away at you.

>>17977415
combine Pic Related
and >>17985722
I don't say this lightly, but, I don't think Murica is looking great here, all things considered. Asia, you can lock shit down and test the fuck out of anything that moves, no-one ranting 'muh constitution' and starting shooting you/them/everything that moves. An over-armed 'freedum luvvin' populace is not the best of prerequisites in which to fight pandemics

>>17986532
>over-armed
GET

>>17977490
>imagine thinking we will be around in december

>>17977415
Many Americans cant into middle school tier math, so reports of exponential growth sounds like literal fake news to them. They are incapable of thinking about the future, hence everyone also getting fucked over for not having savings.
The dumbest among us are about to get fuckin mollywhopped all because they refused to pay attention in math class and because they refuse to listen to the people on both sides of the aisle telling them to stay the fuck inside. It's depressingly hilarious. The worst part after this is that catching corona and beating it will also probably dock you down as having a 'preexisting condition' once your lungs and ACE2 receptors get fucked up. Insurance will likely skyrocket your rates or leave you to die if/when round 2 starts.

This shit is like watching a huge segment of the population act like the screaming child in the babadook that refused to listen.

>>17986585
You could have just stopped at 1 (one..) firearm for every man, woman and and child. BUT, no..

>>17983038
Your country fucked up industry in the rich EU to dominate the market.
In the last 5 years we closed like 8 factories that could have been converted and our bio research has been fucked by Germany labs.
This kind of thinking led Europe to two World Wars and guess which one you won ?
So praise your steel god that EU doesnt fall because if it does it's going to come back hard at you hard for what you did since 40 years.

t. French guy

>>17986532
I think this has more to do with where densely populated areas are not the temperature. Like obviously there aren't many cases in northern Russia or Antarctica cause no one lives there so obviously it can't spread

Muuuh sozialized health Care is COMMMMUNIIIISM

>>17983640
Wrong. People in the US are significantly dumber and most importantly, way more ignorant than people in europe and asia

>>17985499
it's modern day women raised by the jews, the media, public schools, party colleges that are unreliable and degenerate

>>17977415
>The number of cases has x10 every 8 days
That sounds about right to me. I looked at the numbers on Wikipedia about a week ago and they ranged from about +25% per day to +50% per day. It also said the average time without symptoms was about 5 days, so the actual infected is probably like 5 to 8 days ahead of that.

>>17986034
I understand that, and millions could still die worldwide even if the mortality rate is 1%, but is worth shutting down the entire planet and launching ourselves into the next Great Depression??? Worst case scenario we have another Spanish Flu on our hands. Life went on then, and it should go on now.