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Is it dead cat or it is really over?

NONONONONONONO MY FUCKING PUTS

>>17957208
Unironically the last bounce til the crash.

MOOOOOOOOOOOO
I hope you like milk...
CUZ ITS THE GOLDEN MOOMOO RUNNNNN!!!!

>>17957213
Hold strong brother bear. We will return on Monday.

Oh it dumping bags time :^) :^)

>>17957220
the milkshakes bring all the bulls to the yard....

Glad I hedged my FNGD with a little bit of FNGU. I’ll flip it into more FNGD at the end of the day.

why is tradingview not working ? got any suggestion for another platform?

>>17957208
monday is gonna be fucked

>>17957226
*bonk*

>>17957226
Hope so. I have a SPY $233 3/20

Europe popping off right now in greentown

Buy SQQQ on open or buy SQQQ on close

>>17957272
Well that expires today, so whatever happens on Monday is irrelevant.

>>17957036
"Vlad" is a pet name for Vladislav, not Vladimir. The correct Russian hypocorism for Vladimir is "Vova" or "Volodya".

>>17957226

Forgot about the quad witch shit and bought puts during the Thursday pumping session fuck should have waited. At least I had the sense to hedge.

What are some good stocks that I should look to hold for the long term? This is assuming that this is the bottom.

>>17957339
nigga it's witching hours right now.
If you want bottom wait at least for monday

DID YOU BUY THE DIP FAGGOT ?

>>17957305
jesus which brainlet made this?

>>17957339
>This is assuming that this is the bottom.

>>17957339
You're aware the entire world is literally just now strutting down, and you think this is the bottom? Anon...I

Oh no someone set up a bear bunker

Is Microsoft the boring but sure stock?
It's YTD percentage is not even hit that much.

Lmao @ this retarded bull trap, we dumping mid day.

>>17957241
Shake milk!
Bull run!!

Bring back Deans!! Where’s the bailout for Dean’s Foods!!??! All those poor unemployed milk maids!!!!

>2MIL extra unemployed in the USA


Jesus this is going to take 20 years to recover from

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
THE BOTTOM IS IN AND I DID BUY YET
10% OF GAINS ETERNALLY MISSED
I DIDN'T BUY THE DIP OF THE LIFETIME

>>17957365
Not rds. That sounds unamerican. We’re not fond of royalty, and we’re not Dutch.

But I did buy many dippies.

MY BX4 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M DOWN 2000€ FUUUUUUUUUUUCK. Should I sell now or continue holding? It's a short etf on the cac40. The markets are still going to crash right?

>>17957429
but im a eurofag, then again i wouldnt mind buying XOM dip either, but now i do feel a greediness which makes me think i should collect profits

>>17957440
Sell mid day after a small dump. We dump hard on monday doe

>>17957424
as soon as restaurants and bars open back up, won't all those people get their jobs back?

>>17957418
Deans still has all their products in my grocery store, so I think they're fine
I think the cows are probably doing well too. Munching on tasty grass and enjoying the warmer weather :D

AAAHAHAHAHAHAH
THE BREXIT SAGA
ITS NEVER GOING TO END!!!

>the EU’s chief brexit negotiator said he tested positive for COVID-19

what fucking cruel joke is this

>>17957477
yeah we been knowing that hentaifag

Can anyone recommend any good games to download of the Google play store

>>17957489
what was the premium you paid anon jesus christ

>>17957502
fallout

>>17957274
Yeah, that green town is likely to be pushing up daisies soon.

>>17957339
VZ COST TWTR

>>17957424
Just wait until the mass layoffs in the Permian

>>17957502
thinkorswim app

>>17957470
Mooooo! Is DF coming back :o
Linking how futies lookin :)

>>17957546
Already starting. Seems like it will reach its final drop by May. Bunch of rigs immediately dumped this week while a lot will wind down by May.

>>17957546
LMAO what

bullish on the cambrian btw

Its not the bottom yet my negroes. Epidemic is far from over and the full economuc fallout is yet to manifest. This rally is wishful thinking.

get out of the investing.com comments fuckers

Short the peak today bros, thank me later

>>17957197

10 DAYS REMAINING
DON'T FORGET YOUR RIFLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nILJHMC6cYI

CALI ON SHUTDOWN WHY IS IT GREEN

>>17957627
the greener the friday
the redder the monday
tomorrow is prime puts

We're back baby and going right to the top

So you look at a stock at 400 usd
There is a dip and you buy at 200 usd
The virus hits and it goes down harder. 150 usd currently.
Would it be wise to sell it now, considering it might go as low as 75 usd? At that moment you could buy in at 75 2 times the stock (knowing it will recover in the long run)?

>>17957627
Shutting down the entire nation is incredibly bullish bros

>>17957591
Anon this meme is literally everywhere. It's on instagram and all over twitter.

>>17957627
people are realizing it's just a flu

>>17957591

>>17957627
Turns out shutting cali down was actually what everyone wanted. Keep them locked in there and save the rest of us the trouble.

Bullish on the recovery of utter civilizational collapse tbf bros

>>17957657
Holy shit. Really?
Am I wrong in thinking it started here in my humble homeboard?
>>17957651
>the nation of California
I kind of wish.
>>17957470
Basted deeeeans!!
Glad to hear the girls are doing fine. And no one is derprived of those fine products.

>>17957610
banger
>>17957657
gwim! You holding up okay?

>>17957643
>can you make a lot of money if you always guess correctly what a stock is going to do?
yes, but not by just buying/selling at the right time. if you know what the stock is going to do just buy/sell the correct options make millions of dollars

>>17957747
of course the meme started here silly, it was swiftly spread to twitter (by scumbags like myself), picked up by reddit, reposted to instagram all blurry, then found its way onto mainstream twitter. Brrrrrrrr is known by a bunch of people who don't even know what a wojak is, I guarantee it

>>17957570
Bullish as fuck for Natty Gas futures... as its near those multi decade lows... please dump it tomorrow I want to buy! Maybe.

>>17957771
1,5 was the bottom i suppose for this year, was thinking of buying myself but chickened out

futures were limit down yesterday, but the day was green
futures are near limit up today, but the day will be ???

do futures even predict the trading day or is it just a meme?

>>17957792
coin toss

>>17957792
They're an interesting way to guage sentiment. I'm sure if you looked at them on a large scale a significant, likely majority of days with green futures ended green. You have to remember VIX is still at 70, these are not normal days.

Previous friday also seen a massive gain and then even bigger loss on monday. I think ill short the peak today and hope that they dont find cure/vaccine during weekend

>>17957750
Yeah I'm gucci
>>17957747
Yeah I believe it started here.

>>17957792
Consulting entrails and tarot cards is better than futures at this point.

I TOLD YOU NIGGAS YESTERDAY WE GREEN TODAY
LETS MAKE MONEY BULLCHADS!

>made 9k on virtual portfolio with a single buy position on silver x10 leverage last night
>Didnt have the balls to do it for real even though all the signs of excessive demand were there.
Brb cutting my dick off

WHAT OTHER QUALITY STOCK TO BUY FOR CHEAP NOW? ALREADY BOUGHT SHELL

>mfw I get to pick up cheap ass DOW short ETF today
Thanks bulltards.

>>17957755
my broker doesn't offer options or puts.
It literally is all about buying stocks cheap and selling them higher

Fucked myself buying a ton of TVIX at a high yesterday. Should I DCA today and wait for the drop on Monday (there will be a drop on Monday, right?) or just cut my losses?

HOLY FUCK

>there are uniroincally people in this thread who think that this is the bottom
oh man once emergency wards hit max capacity you're going to see things you would have only ever seen in your nightmares bullcucks

>IT'S THE RECOVERY!!! BUY!!1!!1!

>>17957893
imagine buying a call today
someone will unironically do this

Today is going to be fucking brutal, I'm thinking the dow will break 18K, maybe even 17K.
Bobo is going to maul the shit out of the market, screencap this post and get out while you still can.

How the fuck are we up

im balls deep in leveraged DAX bear certs since yesterday, couldnt have timed my entry worse


gonna hold anyway, its going down eventually

>>17957921
Or you're gonna get liquidated first,kek

>futures are green

Sitting in Europe here. should i wait for todays opening or even monday to buy some cheap stoxx?

>>17957931
cant with those certs, can go down to zero though, but that would mean 15%+ on the dax so yeah no

>>17957919
quadruple witching
look it up
never knew

>>17957921
this >>17957931
today is the day when people will get liquidated if they do not close their positions, the (((big guys))) won't miss out on this opportunity

I DIDN'T BUY THE DIP OF THE CENTURY

>My BA nicely up pre-market.
>My MSFT nicely up pre-market.
Something fucky is going on. Probably won't last till opening.

Today will be anyone's guess. I imagine it will be green so it'll leave a nice entry for puts

>>17957949
shorting is forbidden eurofag, buy now,
t. fellow eurofag

Any swede here who could tell me about Saab?
Is it a good stock to buy?

I'm pissed because some dividends are being paid next week and I have them automatically reinvest but I was hoping for a low low so I could get more shares.

>>17957962
Interesting. Monday is going to be hell isn't it?

How low does spy have to get to for this to be a "depression"?

>>17958007
friday for the bulls
monday for the bears
tuesday is for the crabs

>"Monaco's Prince Albert II tests positive for coronavirus"

everythings under control!

>>17958012
I give it 3 months. 1 month for corps to run out of money, 2nd month for people to run out of money, 3rd month for it to hit the economy.

>>17957990
Not on the derivatives tho?

Just got laid off from my job lol

>>17957980
I was thinking the same

>>17958023
This is like 3 days old news? Are you bears even trying. We're pricing in the future now. And it is green.

>>17958030
Absolutely bullish, now you should buy stocks, this is good news, market is so good that CEOs don't want to waste your time knowing that there's bigger gains to be made on stonks.

>>17958023
just a flu la

he'll shake it off.

Hoping that soros and all those 110 year old trillionaires wont catch it desu

>>17958007
it said that usually witching shouldn't be so volatile
but I guess everything is upside down
it's truly a clown market
so yes, Monday won't be nice

Oh nononono my puts I'm going to lose it all while shorting a bear market how is this even possible AAAAAAAAA

>>17957993
Non Swede living in Sweden, unfortunately, dont buy that shit, stay away from car manufacturers , also try to avoid Euro companies for now, most of em are zombies

>>17957990
>shorting
Im a holder, just want it cheap.
it bounced up so it's not as cheap as yesterday.
Cheap Monday coming or not?

>>17958030
based

Invest in the stock market

>>17958027
short selling was fully forbidden including derrivatives i think, saxobank sent me notifications that positions would be closed because of that, fuckin cunts

>>17958030
embrace it, you don't need to suck your boss' cock anymore

>>17958043
based and bullpilled

how can i as a EURO short the Dow jones?

>>17958054
My man it is not manufacturing cars. They're manufacturing weaponsystems and aeroplanes.

>>17958030
DRUMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

>>17958057
not a wizard bro, but how much more do you want it to drop ? especially if you are a hodler , just DCA

>>17958081
Buy inverse ETFs. There's no other way because US doesn't do KIIDs and EU demands them.

DAX +5% WE BACK BULLS

>>17958081
saxo bank, interactive brokers, dont do it though

>>17958085
thought they brought back 2 models, but yeah you are right, still wouldnt buy

Only thing pumping are the number of new cases

steady +10%, should have made an etfs from it

>>17958105
why not?

the market is gonna crash monday right

>>17957872
dw fren
it will risen more, just go balls deep now

All I want is a morning dump then the faggots can pump all they want until EOD
Is that too much to ask

>>17958116
it may, it may not, nobody knows, if i knew i would definetily not be sitting on a chinese monkey eating forum, but then again, we are at 2008 levels almost, how much lower do you expect it to go ? is it worth it ? for me its not

>>17958116
yes, it's fairly obvious that we will fall another 3-4k points over the next few weeks

>>17958134
Don't even think about questioning where the bottom is until the medical crisis hits, stocks are going to plummet once that happens

>>17958189
im seriously considering buying puts on brent right now

DOW's already flatlining.

I went all in on puts because everyone here said today would be a bloodbath. Why did you lie to me?

>>17957380

>>17958204
>futures at 800+
?

>>17958244
Me too anon. But my puts all expire the earliest April 3rd. So ill wait it out today and reap the gains next week.
>>17958249
Thanks saved.

>>17958244

Today’s a pump. Monday’s the bloody dump. Dubs say so and fuck Trump.

>>17958204

the fuck you talking about you dumb bobo

>>17958189
>Medical crisis
Do you think that we'll have a big one? They're literally building army hospitals and setting up ships in NY to deal with it in advance

>>17958244
>everyone here said
there's your problem
I went with puts on inverse etfs yesterday
We're not out of the woods, but today I eat bobo's lunch

>>17958278
we aren't even testing it like they did in korea, do you really expect that the US somehow does not have an exponential curve?

love seeing all these newfags get blown up over 1 green day lmao

>>17958054
Saab is looking quite interesting, i think they face far less risk of going out of business then a lot of Swedish Large Cap companies.. Have not read their balance sheets but I would consider buying it after Q1.
>t. Swefag

>>17958302
have many friends buying ICA for fucks sake thinking they will be rich, anyways i prefer trading Nasdaq and commodities only, i you lads have telegram accounts and wanna share ideas on day trading lets talk, currently i want to short brent like crazy

>>17958293
With or without testing you get an s-curve anyway. I don't think that scientists are dumb enough to go off the official numbers, they're probably projecting what we need and preparing accordingly. Whether or not our prep is good enough is a different story though, apparently NY hospitals are 2wks away from using up all supplies

https://www.ft.com/content/711c5df2-695e-11ea-800d-da70cff6e4d3
what sound does the EU money printer make?
it can't be BRRR. America always does the opposite what the EU does.
Perhaps BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ?

>>17958293
I do hope that the psychological impact of seeing the boomers generation leads to mass selloffs among the boomers though

DOUBLE BOTTOM IN JUNE AND BACK TO THE MOON

>DOUBLE BOTTOM IN JUNE AND BACK TO THE MOON

DOUBLE BOTTOM IN JUNE AND BACK TO THE MOON

>DOUBLE BOTTOM IN JUNE AND BACK TO THE MOON

NEVER EVER FUCKING DOUBT ME AGAIN

>>17958296
>THIS IS THE NEW BOTTOM
Who can blame them? Probably their first rodeo, ppl are getting burned left and right.

>>17958356
Wtf is happening, shit is just now starting to hit the fan, why the fuck is it pumping?

How volatile will today be? Will I have the chance to exit SQQQ above 25 then rebuy at close? Or will it be green all day?

>>17958030
Unemployment checks + avoiding beer flu is a win

I want my 1,200 or more neetbux to stimulate the economy with. They better hurry up and come to an agreement while we still have an economy.

Also reminder not to get caught in the bull trap.

>>17958372
If only they knew how bad things really are.

>>17958409
I know how bad things are, I HELD MY PUTS EXPIRING TOMORROW

UK SOON IN LOCKDOWN

>>17958325
short brent?

explain your rationale please

>>17958372
nothing goes straight down in a line, this is a relief pump.

mostly because of options running out today and a witchingday.

>>17958414
Oof. Shouldn't bet on a quad witch

>>17958418
oversupply, saudis are pumping the market, russkies also want to see the shale lads go broke, the demand is dead, nobody is flying, people are hoarding on oil making the warehousing prices skyrocket, and if the demand doesnt pick up nobody will want it any longer, then again, i might be wrong

Plenty of people are saying there will be a big dump on Monday.
Are they solely meaning on US market or also for European and Asian market?

>>17958427
how did you know it was a quad witch?

>>17958441
US and european market mostly move together

>>17958448
>The spooky-sounding term occurs on the third Friday of the month of every quarter, in March, June, September, and December, and refers to the simultaneous expiration of single-stock options and futures and index options and futures.

>>17958423
Believe me I know options expire today, I refuse to even look at my brokerage account, I know it’s red as fuck.

And the thing is the calamity going on should be so overwhelming to the market that there won’t be things like “relief pumps”. Judging by how retarded most of this thread is saying “buy the dip”, assures me that is has far more room to fall.

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>17957589
>using Internetball's polandball renditions unironically

LMAO i got the virus already


just chilling and reading

>>17958472
so you just remember those days?

>>17958517
I think I did too, I had a sore throat for like 10 days

>>17958537
do you trade without doing any research?
literally every news organization has one article about today, even redditors figured it out, you can't be this much of a brainlet r-right?

>>17958565
it's his first week in the stock market pls no bully

>>17958565
i do tons of research, but i don't look at reddit or news. what news do you recommend.

>>17958485
>"should be"
In all seriousness of course there's still room to fall, but you have to understand there are relief pumps through all crises and crashes in history.
>>17958537
yes? They're pretty important

>>17958517
>>17958557
Pretty sure I had it back in February/January when we weren't even testing for the shit. Compared to other infectious viruses Corona is pussy shit.

>>17958492
I've been telling you this for a while now.
If we don't have a vaccine(and it will take at least 18 months to develop it and vaccinate everyone) as soon as we stop the distancing the virus explodes right back up.

>>17958557
lot of people at my work are getting sore throats

>>17958664
>tfw slightly sore throat but no coughing or sneezing or running nose

stress levels are increasing

>>17957967
Look at how stubborn the bears are in their belief the market only goes down, buy dips now.

>>17958664
Same, we all started getting it at work. This shit is out of control, the hospitals are going to be overwhelmed next week I think

>>17958680
when markets crash this much, they tend to crash all the way. there are plenty of historical examples corroborating this.

>>17958674
Those of us in our 20’s might just get a sore throat though

>>17958485
>Believe me I know options expire today, I refuse to even look at my brokerage account, I know it’s red as fuck.
Same here brother. We will have our day on Monday.

>>17958694
jfc the world isn't ending shit will be fine in a month. enjoy today's giant green dildo up your ass

wheres the dumb faggot who said i was dreaming when i said SPY going $250 today

Is this going to pump all the way till the options expire at end of day?

oil dumping again, anticipating the Nasdaq at 6666 next week

Dammit did I buy sqqq a day too early?

>>17958737
i didnt say the world was ending, i said the market was crashing. it's happened many times in the past, why can't it happen again? i'm in cash btw.

>>17958737
Oh nonono look at this dude

>>17958774
I'm sick of all these faggots "the world is ending!!!"

The markets already dropped 30% the VIX went fucking nuts and now we rally and rape all of you.

See you morons next crash.

>>17958741
crying

>>17958801
Oooh oh oh nnoooooo he really just

>>17957502
retroarch and an nes/snes romset. All mobile games are gacha trash

>>17958674
i had a tight chest and the urge to cough last night but i think it could just be anxiety from reading about this shit for like 14 hours a day.
Either that or I have a REALLY mild case, like milder than a common cold. i really hope this is it but i doubt it.

>>17958801
good lord you are actually a delusional "muh bulls vs bears" tribalist

>>17958801
I hope you are buying on margin

its just a flu

should i short SPY on opening or wait till end of day :/

>>17958829
No I'm a fucking trader who was short at the top and now I'm long at the bottom.

But whoever is bearish, right now, is a fucking moron and enjoy the next few weeks in the market.

Any bad news for germany today? DAX is unreasonably high and I'm ready to short it with $20k

>>17958858
what you are is an imbecile. you are convinced markets do not and cannot crash.

>>17958819
wtf i have same, this cant be happening

>>17958801
>See you morons next crash.
Monday? yeah, the day after quadruple witching, what could go wrong...

>>17958871
what the fuck do you think this is?!!?!?!

>>17958860
big poomp all round today then tumbling down monday

thing is i'm holding bags on this poomp and i'm not sure whether to hold until monday or try and drop them at some point today to load up when it goes higher

>>17958858
>it's just a correction bro, after this we're on our way to 30k, just gotta ignore the mass layoffs and the huge numbers of CEOs stepping down, don't even worry about the upcoming disaster when the emergency rooms fill up and we run out of ventilators, it's all uphill from here

>>17958674
>>17958664
i had a virus back in end of december. started with a really painful sore throat that lasted many days, after a few days of sore throat then body aches and major fatigue set in, and heavy chest that felt wet when breathing, had to sleep sititng upright because felt like i wasnt getting enough air lying down. i felt out of breath walking the dog around the block, literally had to stop after 5 minutes because it felt like i wasnt getting enough air. i went to urgent care and the doctor had me blow an asthma device and i was pretty low capacity for my size and weight. after listening to my lungs and chest with his stethoscope he said i had bronchitis and gave me albuterol inhaler and sent me home. then i started having deep lung hacking cough, coughing up chunks of grey green mucus. kept taking hot showers and drinking hot tea every couple hours along with mucinex to help hack chunks. shit sucked, i think from start to finish it took over a month to feel 100% back to normal and lingering cough to go away. i could definitely see how someone could get hospitalized for it, especially if they are out of shape or have crappy lungs. i have 12%bf and am fairly fit and exercise and eat decently healthy. when the sore throat first started i could feel the sickness coming on, that feeling of your body feels weird, so i went out and got a bunch of zicam, zinc lozenges, airborne, and sambucol. i used all that stuff in high amounts and i credit them with helping keep the shit on the milder side. i think it could have been a lot worse if i wasnt doing that stuff along with the hot tea with honey every hour i think it would have been way worse. the whole time i thought it was the flu but now i think it was corona. im in northern california

>>17958895
antigravity cat bounce

>>17958895
>what is a bubble
oh you sweet summer child

Ummm guys I just woke up what the fuck why is it green?

>>17958537
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/quadruplewitching.asp

>>17958926
dead cat bounce

>>17958895
it is the vix dropping for one day. one fucking day. recession cancelled!

>>17958921
That's what a crash looks like. We're here. Ride it back up now.

>>17958905
No you see it's price in. Everything is always already price in, forever

Don't go spending your Govt checks just yet!. They're still debating it. Yes it is tempting as hell to blow $1200 (2400 married) but till the money is there in the account don't do it yet. They may do a last moment screw job you know.

>>17958897
I really doubt it can keep pumping above 5% today so can probably go in with this short already now

>>17958926
we're in for a
VOLUMINOUS
day of brrrrrrr

>>17958939
Yes 2 reversal candles at VIX 80 is probably going to reverse hard. See you at VIX 25 in a week or so.

>>17958955
your problem is that you think technical analysis applies in ever-shifting market conditions. TA is what you do when everything is quiet in the world. what you should be doing is researching historical context.
>what is the long term debt cycle
you should start here little trader

>>17958879
do you feel like you cant take a full, deep breath as you would normally be able to?

How does a crab make money. What does a crab have to be smug about?

>>17958946
>>17958937


This should absolutely can't be over.... we haven't even seen the full amount of people in the hospital yet

>>17958972
yes

>>17958577
>i don't look at reddit or news.
in general it's a good attitude
if a chart is going in some direction, follow that direction; the problem with the corona thing is that everything is unprecedented; we are trapped in a "no man's land" during a nuclear war: everything is radioactive ffs

Rejoice and be saved by Him and his fat divvy today! $32 something is all it takes to bag oh fat divvy @ 0.52 x 4 w/6+% yield.

>>17958978
crabs don't care about economy
they snib snab and eat fish and other small organisms.
They have no need for money

>states being told to delay their unemployment numbers
>unemployment claims expected to jump to 2m+

feelin bullish rn

>>17958987
we're done for, lad

>>17958987
>>17958972
>>17958879
>>17958819
The younger you are the more mild the symptoms, breh you got it, if you got fever its pretty much confirmed

>>17958955
>See you at VIX 25 in a week or so
even cramer isn't this delusional

>>17958971
I'll take my chances with TA, good luck anon.

>Virus causes an additional ailment in up to 30% of people, which has its own ~30% mortality rate and leaves lasting lung damage for up to 15 years
>70% of the population predicted to contract Covid-19 in many places
The crash hasn’t even begun

>>17958987
It's anxiety anon, take a deep breath and hold it for 10 seconds or as long as you can. If you're really getting hypoxia then you won't be able to manage.

VIX going down to 50 from 80 for 2 days doesn't mean it's a reason to stop panicking lol that's still ridiculously high average and it's been above 50 for over a week now

>>17959048
i can’t believe people actually believe that 70% of people will get the virus. even the most contagious illnesses would struggle with getting those numbers

>>17959039
VIX 40 today if I'm lucky.

I'm starting to get slightly worried that i missed the dip of a lifetime. Reassure me

Oil prices are too low

>>17959072
well, this is one of the most contagious illnesses.

>>17959080
I had FOMO on 2 different instances and I lost money on them.

Today will be ours, fellow Bobochads.

>>17959080
market was up not even 2% yesterday. assuming this is a bottom (which it's not), are you really concerned about missing 2%? we've had wild up and down swings of over 5% all week. you weren't concerned then?

>>17959063
can you calculate where the VIX will be after the Nasdaq hits 6666 in the middle of next week?

>>17959080
the dip has only just started

>>17959080
It's not going to go down more than 10% from here (already -30%) so you can easily average out your buys losses over a long period

>>17959080
it’s ok bro, the market was down only 30% and this only happens once every 10+ years. the stock market isn’t typically known to go back to previous highs after a crash either so don’t worry.

>>17959080
>>17959096
>>17959102
>>17959104
>>17959105
>>17959110
I bought the dip at 2900
FUCK!!

>>17958984
that's what i've been trying to say, but bullcucks are so delusional that they need to lie to themselves about "buying the dip" because their hubris makes them think they're gonna be millionaries in a few weeks
The jokes on them though, bear gang will be sitting pretty and smug next week

reckon its worth buying a few far otm vix june puts?

>>17957921
This picture makes me feel awful
Pls no post it

>>17959080
Wait until the national guard and army enter into NYC. You didn't miss anything yet

>>17959080
see
>>17958984

Why did it went up today? Some countries are experiencing lockdowns because of what's happening.

so what can i buy puts on vix now or what?

tsla puts at this point ?

>>17959099
When are you buying, bobro? I'm thinking just before local close so I can maximize gains.

>>17959166
never underestimate the stupidity of the erect, stampeding bull. reality always comes crashing down on them eventually, but you need to give them enough time to turn flaccid.

>>17959166
it's the witching hour

spy premarket dropping

>>17959166
the market is getting ready for good news about a possible medical solution. not saying it’s definite, but it is being accounted for right now

>>17959175
>Buying?
Oh I'm just here to see the pinkies.

>>17958517
>>17958557
>>17958664
>>17958674
>Fat asian fuck with a mask came into my work
>Took off his mask to talk to me
>This piece of shit spat while he talked and I felt a drop hit my lip
>Immediately used hand sanitizer on my face
>Couple days later and feel fine
I was definitely worried. Seriously, fuck faggots who can't talk without spitting

>>17958941
Hey fucking retard. No it’s not “in the price” or else the stock market would be the same every day.
You conflating two different things
>peoples expectations about an event and the probability of that happening
>people response IF the event occurs
The first formula is going to be a probability equation of taking into account a partial effect of an event happening, in this case, a wuhan/north Italy event, but also priced in is the probability that it doesn’t happen so something like
1/2*prob(wuhan in US) + 1/2*prob(no wuhan in US)
This is were we are now. Hence why it’s not priced in retard.
The value of the stocks with adapt to the changing probability numbers.
If an wuhan/Italian event does happen, the stocks will now reflect the full valuation that it does happen.

This is what your conflating;
>probability of something happening
>something happening
Right now we are experiencing investors thoughts on what will happen with the Virus, not the actual events, becuase they haven’t happened yet

>>17959208
incubation time is 2 weeks fella


you're done for

F

I hope Trump signs the chart again today

>>17959213
that's a really long way of saying
"i'm delusional"

SPY dropping furter

>CNBC broadcaster just showed her feet on cam
holy shit CNBC is based

>>17959233
Take him to the infirmary.

>>17957197
>girl on cnbc just showed her feet

>>17959244
IT'S HAPPENING

>>17959256
>>17959251
POST THE CLIP!

>>17959228
I might be, I'll find out eventually. I'm seriously fucking annoyed about this whole thing though. I don't get to quarantine because my work has been deemed an "essential" place. We're just a fucking shipping store with mailboxes. The mailbox renters even have keys to the front door, so if they actually gave a shit about minimizing risk they would only have one employee come in each day to sort any incoming mail, and then send them home

>>17959268
line must go up lad!

BEAR GANG

>>17959256
link pls

Anyone have a free CNBC link? The one I have is super chobby audio for some reason?

>>17959267
>>17959318
I didn't record it but I'll see if they upload the conversation anywhere.

BOTTOM IN?!??

>>17959329
Thank you!

>>17959090
Saudi and Russians spend 7$ to extract
deal with it

>>17959105
>It's not going to go down more than 10% from here
set max on a Nasdaq chart

>>17959352
absolutely based

>>17959336
Are you smoking something?

>Altria CEO Howard Willard contracts coronavirus, steps aside
smoking business is kill

they are drawing a hand with a raised middle finger on the natural gas chart

>>17959352
>>17959372

https://www.ccn.com/this-is-how-oil-prices-can-crash-below-0-yes-really/

This would create a 20 million barrel-per-day surplus of oil in the market that would rapidly exceed storage capacity, forcing oil producers to pay customers to buy the commodity.

WTF ITS OVER

>>17959352
There is no possible way Russia pays the the same as the Saudis to extract oil, they probably pay twice as much with their oil sands. It costs US frackers about 20$ to pull from a barrel from our oil sands.

>>17959393
lmao

>>17959352
Just because it costs 7 bucks DOESNT MEAN anything, they planned their budget basis 50+ and russkies basis 35-40, they are bleeding profits like a mofo, and we havent even seen venezualian oil and iranian oil step in the game yet, nigerians also announced today they increase the outputs, so in total im pretty bearish as well

I need a CNBC link please. Mine is chobby af.
>I need a CNBC link please. Mine is chobby af.
I need a CNBC link please. Mine is chobby af.

>>17959375
The market is whacky, a bottom put in wouldn’t be too crazy. I’ve been saying and still hold to it, that eventually the market will start going up with bad virus news. We’ve seen it been this irrational before. It would be chalked up to “being closer to the end”. I bought a variety pack of SPY calls yesterday that should print, but that said probably not gonna hold over the weekend.

>>17959080
Everyone but weedbrah kept telling you to buy

But you had to listen to the cortisol ridden fuck

so what am i not seeing right now?
the dow futures went up like hell, now drop again (market is not open yet)
was that the witch hour shit? are we done?
i fucking panic sold my option that went from 1,20€ to 0,20€ in an instant on market opening in yrop
i thought the dow would hit like 21.5 or something today...

>>17958978
Use your day trades wisely on options

Just watch the news and buy on breaking news

You won't make as much as the hardcore boiz do who email companies constantly but you'll make more than the bizraelis that always miss the boat

What the flying f? My local trading account say they cannot deal with locally traded S&P inverse ETF because of exchange rule, what's the point of having a locally traded ETF then?

SOMEONE GIVE ME A FUCKING CNBC LINK
>SOMEONE GIVE ME A FUCKING CNBC LINK
SOMEONE GIVE ME A FUCKING CNBC LINK
>SOMEONE GIVE ME A FUCKING CNBC LINK
SOMEONE GIVE ME A FUCKING CNBC LINKSOMEONE GIVE ME A FUCKING CNBC LINK

Where my diamond handed bears at? Stay strong and don't look at the charts today.

>>17959436
the witching hasn't even begun yet

>>17959408
I've seen it several times
a spectacular one was for Banca Carige in Italy before it went near zero
let me search for it

>>17959457
oh no, I believe it
oil is so fucked nothing would surprise me at this point

>>17959451
I've been in all morning averaging down my ftse inverses. I'm not going anywhere

>>17959454
this quadruple expiration only really hits when the US market opens, right?

SPY 222p 3/27

Thank me l8r

alright boys, just got back from the illuminati conference call. here's the current hopium strat:

>race to develop fast, cheap test to check if you've developed immunity to the virus
>mass deployment
>EVERYONE gets a test
>if positive test, issued clearance to return to work
>ETA: 3 months
>return to normal: 5 months

this is predicated on no reinfection

paper: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.17.20037713v1

>>17959488
you're gonna lose all your money

I'm anticipating everything going tits up but I'm an "essential employee" so before this wagey goes back in his cagey I put buys at the following limits.
Gush .38
UWT .21
Uber 16.00
Lyft 15.00
EAT 7.00
WEN 7.50
SPY 239.00

>>17959501
Stay poor jerome

>>17959336
>Anon-san, are you seliousry considering buying into the burr? I know you can do better than this... The maket was showing signs or lecession or a rong time

>>17959532
not enough diversification
more diversity
more strength
diversity is a portfolio's greatest strength

>>17958814
Also GBA games

>>17959559
his stocks are too white to be honest

>>17959532
uwt is liquidating april 3rd with dwt. its dead.

>>17957502
kingdom rush

>>17959476
yup we're finally gonna break this crab market

How low do you think will silver and oil go?
I'm thinking silver is going to hit around $8 at lowest and then up.
Oil will touch $10 at lowest.

>people thinking this is the bottom and we're back
oh no no no

>>17959559
kekd pretty hard

>>17959613
im itching to buy a put on WTI

>>17959611
I am really starting to enjoy that crab mascot.
Please post more if you can. It's based

>>17959559
>Imagine namefaging on an anonymous board
>Imagine namefaging on an anonymous board with IDs
>>17959559
>diversity is a portfolio's greatest strength
Wait, is this where the globalist get that phrase from? Lol we're worse than cattle
We're stonks.

Another bull trap, huh?

Man, you guys really have been spoiled these last 5 years.

>>17959654
he's a very good boy :)

Well I do hope were back, but one day of green, on a Friday, after a mostly red week. This just seems awfully familiar to last week if you ask me.

>>17959596
Thanks.

>>17959457
>>17959472
it was in April 2014
perfectly drawn, but I can't select a detailed version sorry, only 1 week type of chart; even Investing and Yahoo Finance have missing data on that stock, for "some reason" lmao

If enough people or big money bought or sold an ETF, does that move the ETF share price or does only the underlying stocks move the ETF share price?

>>17959660
His portfolio needs more NKE.

>>17959706
yes

yikes!

>>17959706
ETFs are essentially stocks but based on index price, if no one wants to part with their stock cheap then guess what happens to its price.

>>17959741
Yes to which one?

>>17959747
Literally nobody cares, it's for the best normies stay the fuck out of this board. WSB is for them instead.

>>17959706
of course they go hand in hand, but some ETFs are based on futures or swaps, others are "edged" against currencies; look at what's inside

>>17959687
np. not sure what to do with my shares. 200@.22 should be okay for the payout but im thinking they'll screw everyone somehow.

First

Is it really bad to hold leveraged ETFs like SQQQ over the weekend?

>>17959815
sell them?

tfw got beartrapped

>>17959860
IIRC no as long as monday will fucking crash, which it almost certainly will aside from BRRRRRRR fuckery.

>>17959903
with the gains we're seeing today, it feels like monday will have to drop over 10% otherwise we just return to the same levels we had wed/thur

>>17959911
I want a triple circuit breaker monday.
Not for financial gain, but just because it'd make me chuckle.

am analyst firm said that the Italian GDP will drop 8% in the first semester:

https://it.reuters.com/article/idITL8N2BD1Y6

(I don't know if they are reliable)

>>17959759
>>17959810
So me buying or selling shares of an ETF has no effect on the share price, right? I’m only trading the performance of all the underlyings within the ETF and I have no effect on that performance, unless I am trading one of the underlyings but not if I’m trading the ETF?

>>17959928
I don't care about trading
I lost my job because of how poorly the economy is going
and I probably won't be able to get a new job for another month
but god damn do i love seeing all red faces posted here when line goes down

https://ourworldofpixels.com/bant
go to -3750 -12336

>>17959951
You have indirect effect on the ETF itself but not on the index. Keep in mind you're buying shares of the ETF from other people or institutions.

Never bought options before.
What should I buy calls in?
Done with investments.

DO I UPRO OR TVIX??????

>>17959944
for sure in the coming weeks there will be all sorts of fake news about fudged macro data left and right, up and down

TRUST NO ONE

Is the VIX done, any chance of it going back up? Last few times it looks like after it peaks it just slowly declines?

>>17959994
Nigger once the pink boomer wojaks start on monday VIX will fucking moon as the clueless WSBlets go BUY BUY BUY NO SELL SELL SELL.

>>17959968
>https://ourworldofpixels.com/bant

A+

>>17959979
VIX

>>17959968
based

>>17959975
Ah ok thanks. I understand it better. This was bothering me to think about and not knowing exactly what is going on with an ETF but I been trading them.

haha weeee

>>17959975
>you're buying shares of the ETF from other people or institutions.
ETFs have a market cap
a small ETF will be forced to sell its content if you drop a large selling order on it when the book is light

SOMEONE FUCKING HELP ME KEEP MY COOL

WHEN WILL THE DOW PUMP COME? I WANT CHEAP ETFS

>>17959450
Live news now cnbc

Literally Google it

>finance.yahoo.com top story "The economic data is unambiguously awful and will get much worse: Morning Brief"
>s&p futures are hard green
Nani the fuck?

>>17960061
Absolutely bullish, total collapse, return of slavery and Mad Max gangs roaming the land are priced in.

>>17959436
>>17959454
>>17959476
when does this stuff hits already? wtf

dump or pump when it opens?

>>17957197
Its over. We made it. Say "thank you Donald".

UVXY vs TVIX, any reason to pick one of the other in the current situation?

>>17959994
there could be a double top, but time works against this; VIX it's basically a 10x leveraged thing; and that leverage costs a ton every day

>>17960061
triple witching hour

>>17960061
the market moves before the headlines. why do half of you retards think investors would wait for the obvious to land in print before taking action

>>17960087
Thank you Donald for cheap ass shorts.

>>17960093
Why the fuck would you long vol now?

>>17960073
Seriously. S&P is now strictly ammo, battle cars, and guzzleline

>>17960093
Your capital and leverage nigger, they're functionally same.

>>17960073
I'm gonna take my gang public
invest early cause we're gonna moon

>>17960051
It's going to be a few weeks before bottom is hit. Dont try to time it. Just buy some on the way down and on the way up.

>>17960093
Leverage, share price, risk tolerance, probability of direction

>>17959596
how about USO

>>17960098
Well since you're obviously an institutional investor what's the big Intel?

>why would I tell you?
Because obviously you're so big you're part of a high frequency trading firm and will be buying all our tiny trades directly from TDA, Robinhood, etc via order flow anyway

>>17960164
i'm a nobody and i could have told you that the data was going to be bad. you knew it too. here's an insider tip: earnings are going to be awful for the next couple of quarters, but in some cases you're going to see stocks shoot up regardless, because they'll be less bad than people thought.

>>17960051
It's being pumped right now.

Reminder that in 2008 majority of investment firms just plain fucked their customers in the ass with no lube and they felt good about it. These people have literally no fucking idea what they're doing, all they can do is stare at algos and wonder why the fuck they're not working, because after all, they paid some chump a small fortune to make them.

oil is red again

>>17960185
In other words you have no idea
At least triple witching hour accounts for the volume

>>17960196
There's also been studies that the average home gamer is about as good as the average institutional investor

>>17960061
were dropping right now

>>17960196
banks tend to sell managed funds were they have a cut of the entry fees; they couldn't care less if you lose money on junk products

>>17960242
it's gonna be entertaining seeing this upcoming volume during the White House conference

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wheres the new bread

>this chick on CNBC keeps drilling people about their feet
>"So do you got socks on?"
>"So no socks on?"
wtf is her problem lmao

>>17960241
If true it doesn't surprise me at all. If you spend a lot of time growing up learning rules for different game genres and get addicted to it, then you've already broken yourself in for the stock market.

>>17960281
>foot fetish
she has patrician tastes

>>17959994
>Is the VIX done, any chance of it going back up?
You could've asked this same question every time it dipped for the last three weeks and look what it did, lol. Trading volume of TVIX is dropping, though, which is a signal that this pump is getting long in the tooth.

>>17960327
>>17960281
pics?

>>17960456
she showed her feet on cam earlier this morning
they cut it from their upload on youtube though
sorry, based coombro

>>17960470
It's times like these, that I wish for a timemachine

Leaf here, I want to get in on this wild ride. What brokers does /biz/ recommend? The ones listed in the OP don't allow maplefags to trade.