/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17945561
Continued

Just give me my freedom dividend

>>17945561
Trumpbux will never happen. To many neocons who want to save money to give to Israel

>>17945561
Can't Trump just tell them to fuck off and force it to happen?

good thing graham doesn't control the weather

They can't stop it
When you take out the senators who had to go full centrist to win there are only 48 "conservative" senators

>>17945653
have you paid attention the last four years? trump is grahams bitch boy.

NOOO I WANT MY NEETBUCKS

>>17945561
The issue is more that Pelosi already blocked the measure.

I fucking hate Lindsay Graham so much

>>17945651
Also they need to give out the Trumpbux to stop the coming riots

>>17945561
because the cure was found, this was all a mass hysteria meme, the news is now just pivoting to using "muh corona" to roll out all the gibs to diversity that they already wanted.

Knew it, just like in Canada although you can still get the truduebux but have to jump through hoops and print a load of shit and send it in. They’ll also tax it I’m sure.

>>17945561
Do only citizens get trumpbux or do permanent residents get it too?

>>17945732
>the cure was found
Ok retard

>1.5 Trillion to banks is fine
>1K to each American (about $327B) is over the line

Based Lindsey, if I wanted more fucking handouts and bail outs I'd vote democrat.

>>17945732
"cure" yeah I dont think im gonna take that cure desu

SO HELP ME GOD LINDSEY IF YOU KEEP ME FROM MY TENDYDUCATS I'LL PERSONALLY CONTRACT BOTH AIDS AND CORONA IN ORDER TO POZ YOU TO DEATH.

The more level headed members of the government realize that once they start UBI it will be impossible to stop and it will cause immediate hyperinflation. It will be the end of FIAT fortunes, saving dollars will be next to impossible.

>>17945820
you're retarded. This isn't UBI, and it also happened before in 2007.

>>17945820
>UBI ruins USD
>Crypto is now the only viable currency
Sounds good to me.

>>17945801
you dont need it if your body isnt already teetering from a legitimate disease retard, at least people took pictures of "muh plastic coffins" for the previous scares.

I paid $35k in taxes last year. These faggots can't give me $1k back??????? This country deserves to collapse

>>17945638
Israel has no right to exist.

>>17945869
umad?

>>17945820
>we can only give trillions of dollars to banks and Israel otherwise it will destroy the economy goyim
[rubs hands in hebrew]

Why won’t these fucking nigger congressmen give me my bux

>>17945561
>>17945587
AHAHAHAHAHA

MIGA cucks swindled once again

>>17945760
>citizens
nope they wont get it
>permanent residents
no, not them either
>residents of Tel Aviv
$38 BILLION (AND RISING)

>>17945760
Only banks and jews get NEETbux. You are going to have to fend for yourself, goy. AHAHAHAHAHA

>Bail out failing banks with constituents' money
>Won't help constituents with their own money
Fuck the GOP.

>>17945895
kek

>>17945561
I'm progressive and I think giving direct payments to the people is fucking stupid, most Americans are braindead meth addicts. It has to be 'locked' into specific payments or something (for example foodstamps), you simply cannot trust the average person with no-strings-attached money.

>>17946102
Who do you think food stamps are for negroid?

>>17945791
>socialized capitalism
fuck this clown world

If the Dems were less fucking autistic, they would be able to parlay with Trump very damn easily.

>>17945561
lindsay graham (faggot name btw) is a traitor to the american people and should be put in jail

>>17945732
hyroxychloroquine has been being used in Italy to treat people with corona through the duration of the crisis.

Italy also has had 427 coronavirus deaths today so far. It is a cure for an individual, but not for a society.

>>17946062
this, they should just give back all the federal wage theft-tax that theyve taken out since jan 1st. for people with real jobs this would be a huge amount. for wagies...not so much

>>17946409

You have an source on that? FDA hasn't approved it, so EU being faster to approve would be surprising.

>>17945561
they can't. the economic situation is so bad right now, giving us trumpbux is literally required to save civilization.

>>17946102
>you simply cannot trust the average person with no-strings-attached money.
no-strings-attached money is spent more wisely than foodstamps
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304387813001715
https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/cfgb---impact-of-cash-transfers-on-food-consumption-may-2013-final-clean.pdf
http://cega.berkeley.edu/assets/cega_events/53/WGAPE_Sp2013_Blattman.pdf
https://works.bepress.com/widerquist/14/

socialsim for the rich and corporations, none for america, this is what the GOP stands for.

Vote Sanders.

>>17946495
shut the fuk up. now is not the time to brag about your gay ass job like a sperg

>>17946563
If Trump authorises gibs and Biden opposes it then he's won reelection.

>>17945791
It's been like that for decades, yet people still continue to support it with open arms and eager hearts.

>>17946655
no they don't, retard

>>17945956
>>17946010
Neither of you answered my question, if cash payments were to hypothetically be made to individuals, would that include only citizens or would it include permanent residents as well? I haven't seen any source specify that.

>>17945892
This unironically. The reason why inflation has stayed so low with record low interest rates is because all the wealth has gone to billionaires who don't spend it. Give it to the common pleb and we will see Weimar inflation.

>>17946604
lol no. Trump is about to cave to the GOP and cancel gibs.

they gonan give 1000$ only to israelis .

>>17946102
>I'm progressive so I'm smart
When will you people learn that progressive Democrats are actually low IQ hivemind sheep

>>17946759
thats still a good thing, destroying the USD is needed so we can go back to old gold back moneys

>>17946765
Why? What a stupid thing to do, he'd be a hero if he handed them out.

>>17945800
he's already basically a Democrat with his gun control

Imagine the fucking backlash if these payments don’t go out.

>>17946576
and isnt the point of this money that its no-strings-attached and is supposed to be spent on whatever to support flailing businesses?

>>17946837
That's why people are saying you can't stop the UBI train once it gets rolling. It's already rolling ,albeit slowly, with no money sent yet, just talk

>>17945561
better it is.
What do you think happens when everybody gets free cash but theres nothing to buy since stores are closed and grocery stores are all empty due to boomer product hording?
Exactly, you get a fucking inflation shock

>>17946837
>muh backlash
kys.

>>17946784
I didn't mean to imply I'm smarter than others (Although I am). I meant that usually progressives would be in favor of stuff like UBI and against Grahams efforts, but I'm not even though I'm a borderline commie.
I just don't support throwing Americans cash cuz they cannot be trusted with it.

>>17945561
They will probably implement it but it will be means-tested and not universal. If you didn't file taxes you might be fucked, which literally leaves out millions of americans who are strapped for cash. Get ready for mass riots/extremely violent civil disobedience unlike anything you have ever seen in two weeks or less.

>>17946897
>there's nothing to buy
except food and rent, retard

>>17946920
Doesn't rule out the fact everyone is now looking at Trump and seeing the current money thing now. As opposed to how normally everyone ignores the fact banks get bailed out all the time. Everyone is at home watching now so yeah.

>>17945895
You mean
>they're bux

This would be bullshit considering news cycles have been stating that it is already a done deal. Back tracking now would be death to his 2020 campaign. They will rake him over the coals.

They'll probably end up just making it temporarily to illegal run aggressive collections on rent, mortgages and credit card debt. If you miss payments they will still hassle the shit out of you but you can fall back on this patchwork of rules when they take you to court. The average guy won't get much at all, bailouts go to the travel industry, energy (banks own their debt), and auto makers.

>>17946997
What's the point of bailing out the airlines if virtually nobody's travelling? Especially if this shit is going to go on for 12-18 months or whatever. They'll just go bankrupt again surely.

>>17946990
Dems blocking this would be the most suicidally stupid political move in all of American history
>"liberal" party blocks UBI during an economic meltdown because orange man bad, and instead proposing bailouts
And since Trump was the guy proposing this in the first place it would be dumb as shit for the Republicans to shoot it down because it would destroy Trump's reelection campaign.

>>17946920
>n-nothing ever happens, bro. t-trust me

>>17945561
Im going to use my trump bux to buy a new gun and ammo

>>17945800
He's the epitome of a snake neocon. 100% corporate welfare to his friends, 0 to everyone else. That might sound based, but I'll give you one even Basededer: I'm personally not getting anything so fuck him.

>>17945561
If i dont get my trumpbux for being a good little boy and staying inside for months on end, i am going apeshit and burning buildings to the ground before wandering into the woods

>>17946925
Most people are good anon. Most people want the best for themselves and their family, poor people even more so. You have to trust, even with no reason. That's called faith and you need a little bit more. Seriously what's the worst that could happen? Poor people will start to collectively fund terrorism with their $1,000, WHILE THEY STARVE?

>>17947045
>Especially if this shit is going to go on for 12-18 months or whatever.
source?

>>17946837
Yes I shudder at the thought of all those angry tweets. Scary

>>17946389
this

>>17947237
https://www.foxnews.com/health/us-coronavirus-crisis-could-last-18-months-or-more-federal-plan-warns-report
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/19/health/us-coronavirus-case-updates-thursday/index.html

Dump everything you have on Trump winning the 2020 election. Currently -110 on Bovada.

If we get Trump bux he wins. If dems block it they will be voted out en masse.

>>17947284
Counterpoint: just tell everyone to go back to work and build some McHospitals for all the boomers who get btfo

>>17945561
Thats cause GRAHAM wants to instate UBI literally

https://www.foxnews.com/media/lindsey-graham-coronavirus-congress-restore-americans-income

>>17945667
thought he was putin's bitch boy? Or was it Ukraine, Israel, and Saudi Arabia?

>>17947311
>Thats cause GRAHAM wants to instate UBI literally
Based graham.

>>17947307
Right but how are they gonna keep Boeing afloat if nobody's travelling, especially if we can't account for other countries' quarantine procedures?

>>17945800
Nice try, funny guy.
We all know it's the Republicans who love to write blank check bailouts, as long as the dirty plebs don't get a piece of it that is.

>>17947311
>UBI

>leaves out those who recently lost their jobs, the unemployed, the homeless and millions of college students*

>>17947238
Anon, its not just going to be angry tweets. People are already losing their jobs. Next comes their homes, and when the virus finally gets to their town. Their loved ones.

People already have had it with the ass backwards bank bailout that did fuckin nothing. If i lose my home and god forbid any of my family because
>Orange man bad, hes not allowed to do something good!!!
Coming from the fuckin democrats. You best believe im gonna be rioting and looting for my cabin in the woods

>>17947325

Give them a contract to build fighterjets

>>17947370
Democratic senator Lindsey Graham

If trump will give us $2000, just image how amazing Bernie as president would be.


Vote for Bernie and all of your wildest dreams will come true.

>>17947325
China/Korea/Japan are getting over their sickness already, it's the West who are quarantining, what would probably be cheaper in the long run at this point is just build CoronaHospitals for the next few years to corral the boomers in while opening the economy back up. Guarantee you that it'll be easier and cheaper than blowing $6 trillion on bailing out literally the entire economy.

>>17946759
>billionaires who don't spend it
What do they do then? Invest in stocks?

>>17947393
Then i got a fucking bullet with her name on it if i dont get my money

>>17947370
One thing that will be interesting is seeing if the leftist wing of the Dems get any stronger, because they fucking hate Pelosi and Schumer more than anyone.

>>17947432
Exactly, stock market has been in a bubble for at least 3 years. The coronavirus was just the catalyst.

>>17947424
>China
Myself and many others dont trust anything coming out of china.
>South Korea
They've been on top of the ball since they had their first reported case
>Same with Japan
>only western countries are quarantining
Yeah because were not small islands. W were an entire continent and a multitude of smaller connected countries on the European side.

>>17947513
Being a fuckhuge continent makes the virus easier to contain, not harder. Space is your friend, close quarters are your enemy
>China is lying
China is literally packing up their hospitals and sending their doctors home, are you saying they're doing this ironically and just letting all the survivors in Wuhan get BTFOd?

>>17947209
>Seriously what's the worst that could happen? Poor people will start to collectively fund terrorism with their $1,000, WHILE THEY STARVE?
The 'worst' thing that could, and will happen, is that many of these people won't spend the $1,000 on what they need and will instead waste it frivolously.
Addicts and idiots will waste it on their addiction or shit like new TVs. All while they fall behind on rent or necessary goods. So yes, people will starve because of their own shortsightedness.

And then they'll end up needing further financial help anyway.

The average American cannot be trusted to act in their own best interest in the best of times, and certainly not in a panicked state. The government has to be the guiding hand

>>17945666
nice digits

>>17947665
Then that's a problem of American education

>>17947665
>The 'worst' thing that could, and will happen, is that many of these people won't spend the $1,000 on what they need and will instead waste it frivolously.
When given UBI gibs people literally always pay rent and groceries with it, in every single test run of the concept ever conducted.

>>17947665
>The government has to be the guiding hand
you're a fucking tool mate

>>17947665
>Addicts and idiots will waste it on their addiction or shit like new TVs
Even the extreme statistical outliers that will buy TVs instead of food are putting money back into the economy you massive fucking retard. This has to be bait jesus fuck

>>17947792
>When given UBI gibs people literally always pay rent and groceries with it, in every single test run of the concept ever conducted.
In other cultures I can see this, absolutely, however find me a study done on Americans, cause I have my doubts

You're a spastic m8

>>17947406
Bernie has passed seven bills in his entire career. Trump is gonna do this NOW (if the GOP doesn't cuck him, at least).

Who the fuck do you think is gonna win the race?

>>17947848
I'm not against giving people money, because as you say, it'll go back into the economy.
I'm against giving people straight cash for them to spend as they want. It's unsustainable. A lot of people WILL waste it, and then they'll end up starving anyway. And because society deems it unacceptable to let people just die in the streets, they'll have to be given even more financial assistance to save them from themselves.

All I'm saying is that it has to be tied to specific payments depending on what the persons needs are. Foodstamps, "mortgage-stamps", etc. The government has to nanny some people.

>>17947665
You’re actually a retard. See this post for proof that every word you’re typing is coming straight out of your ass:
>>17946576

>>17947284
then why did it only take china 8 weeks to recover?

>>17947922
Anybody who's starving won't use money to buy anything except food. That's how immediate physiological needs work. Are you stupid?

>>17947930
Because they took extreme authoritarian measures to suppress the virus that would never fly in the West, therefore it's going to linger in the West for far longer

>>17947930
Because their authoritarian regime can literally weld people into their living quarters

>>17947930
China kicked out every single foreign journalist in the country.

You are truly delusional if you think those chinks are telling the truth about how contained corona is.

>>17947980
>Are you stupid?
Are YOU stupid?
>Anybody who's starving won't use money to buy anything except food. That's how immediate physiological needs work.
You're hilariously naive and sheltered.

>>17947930
The Chinese haven't cured shit. They are relying on herd immunity and hiding the bodies.

>>17948068
Let's see authoritarian government. State control media. Censored internet. Social scores.

fuck out of here with that wishy thinking.

>>17948063
I like how you’ve failed to address actual research in this topic by simply ignoring it, and just spouting what your fantasies about what you think people behave like

>>17948063
>You're hilariously naive and sheltered.
Fast for seven days. Just water. You will learn what happens to everyone when they are hungry. Not some people, EVERYONE. It's also very good for you no memes.
Now fuck off, retard.

>>17946102
These "programs" qualifications are always set up in such a way to prevent you from benefitting them if you aren't a giant shit bag.

>Working at McDicks for minimum wage
>Try to get in foodstamps because I'm flat broke and starving
>Sorry you work too much to qualify ;^)
>Guy at the booth next to me just got out of prison and is trying to collect welfare for his illigitimate kid

Fuck this whole rotten system and give me my trump bucks

>>17948177
>Fast for seven days. You will learn what happens to everyone when they are hungry. Not some people, EVERYONE.
And now do the same with a drug addict going through withdrawals for several days. Hold out a big mac in one hand a crystal meth in the other.

As I said, you're a sheltered retard.

>>17948238
The meth dealer puts the money back into the economy. Seriously, go fast. It's the best advice you have ever been given.

>>17947980
>Anybody who's starving won't use money to buy anything except food
you've definitely not been an addict
food, sleep, friends, family, all nothing when meth is your everything

>>17948238
Le 80 IQ poster

>>17948177
I'm literally on my 6th day of water fasting and I feel fine

>>17945791
they didnt just give it to the banks you fucking retard its liquidity to keep the entire plumbing of the financial system working so the world doesn't implode

jesus fuck learn how the world works before spouting off your ignorant opinion.

>>17948484
sir you are a fat

>>17946102
Take econ 101 cuck boy

>>17947432
They buy their own stock back to bump up prices.

>>17945561
Are Lindsey Graham and Chuck Schumer 2 sides of the same coin?

>>17946102
>most Americans are braindead meth addicts. It has to be 'locked' into specific payments or something (for example foodstamps), you simply cannot trust the average person with no-strings-attached money.
Foodstamps are less trustworthy because the majority of the people who get them simply find away to use it for drugs and menthols.
The average American is a lot more responsible than the average food stamp recipient, but progressives like yourself refuse to admit it.
You want welfare for the most irresponsible in society, but when the people funding everything, keeping the system running, aka the actual working class and middle class need help, you simply disregard them as "meth heads".
Get your head out of the sand.

>>17948238
Yup that’s why the #1 cause of death among junkies is starvation, they just stop buying food, only drugs.
You are a true idiot, the worst kind, who thinks he’s knowledgeable.

>>17947393
>Lindsey Graham
>>17947433
>her

>>17946581
kek someones mad his career field btfo'd him for covid

>>17945872

>>17945820
>muh hyperinflation meme
You do realize this would just be reallocating budgets used for other activities (like shilling for israel), right? Little to no new dollars are actually being printed out

>>17950079
>GOP
>diverting resources away from Israel

>>17947930
It didn’t. The Chinese are lying. I don’t believe even for a second that they have it under control. This is Chernobyl all over again.

>>17945820
t. “muh small government” retard

>>17947930
>He actually trusts those commie motherfuckers
Lol

>>17946102
Yo ims part of the far right ands holds the sames opinion takes an upvote.

>>17945791
Fuck this shit. I’m just about over the edge

>>17948532
Exactly, fat cunts will inherit the world, we've literally been preparing for this our entire lives, attached to each of us is 6 months to a year's worth of food

>>17946102
I would dump it straight into crypto or silver.

>giving bailout money to companies that use it for buying back stock & keeping supply chain overseas = okay
>giving hard hit workers who are now unemployed no money so they're fucked = not okay
i cannot wait for a populist uprising FUCK these people are so goddamn out of touch with reality it's insane

>>17948498
suck my dick

>>17947665
You're entire worldview is projections, delusions, and hatred

>>17947393
>>17947370
>implying there is any difference between Neoliberals and Neocons
Just kill anything with "neo" in it

>>17947322
Fuck Graham he’s a Traitor
https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2020/03/19/sources-graham-uses-the-disease-crisis-to-deliver-green-cards-to-wealthy-chinese/

Seeing /biz/ slobber over a thousand dollars makes you wonder how much money they're actually working with. 10 dollars? 50?

>>17951210
based

>>17952332
Pretty much this

>>17953564

its the principle my dude

>>17953564
I have almost $2.50 my dude.

>>17948498
this

>>17948498
>so the world doesn't implode
WELL WHAT IF I WANT IT TO IMPLODE YOU NIGGER?

>>17946252
>socialism bad

>>17945561
Lindsey Graham the rich asshat he is can catch a fucking bullet, gimme my trumpbux so I can dump et in this bullish market.

>>17946679
they put up with it