/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17856939
When are we going to put down this sick bull and lean how to spoon with the bear.

>>17856939
what the fuck is going on???

Don't think just print

>>17856939
I don't think people can sell fast enough to keep up with the fed

>>17856939
PUMP!! FED PUMP!!! FED PUMP IT UP!!!

>>17856939
bet's are off my niggaz... take what you can and RUN

>>17856939
Because they have an infinite number of dollars available to them

Just keep printing more dollarinos, never selling my linkies for your shitfiat.

>>17856981
Billionaires are exiting and fed has to keep the plumbing going until they're done.

But the federal government is different and its debt is different. The government can always pay its bills and spend more on other things at the same time. Remember, it can’t run out of money. The limit for the currency issuer – for the monopolist – is inflation not the debt. So if the debt goes up because the government decides to modernize and repair our crumbling infrastructure. Then future generations will inherit better infrastructure and they’ll also inherit more bonds to hold as safe assets.

>>17856939
Looks like they finally run out of ideas

>>17856981
The end is nigh. Unironically.

>>17856939
THEY WILL PRINT AS MUCH AS NECESSARY FOR THEIR (((FRIENDS))) TO CASH OUT. BROAD DAYLIGHT ROBBERY AND PEOPLE ARE JUST WATCHING AND CELEBRATING LMAO

>>17856939
Cause if they don't the whole machine grinds to a halt and the banks go bust

I thought the banks were leaving the vast majority of the initial 1.5T at the desk? What gives?

>>17857330
NOOOOOOOOOOO NO THE HECKING BANKERINO SCAMERINO NOOOOOOOO HOW ELSE WILL I PROFIT OFF USURY NOOOOOO THE MACHINE NEEDS TO KEEP WORKING THIS IS LIKE ANNUDAH SHOAH

>>17857005
This is a temporary virus, you dumb fuck.

>>17856939

government money laundry

They're trying to avoid the inevitable issuing of helicopter money directly to citizens as that action creates a high risk of uncontrollable inflation. Unfortunately without that increasing the repo funding is about all they can do.

"on brink of second bailout for banks" not this times

>>17857413
american's whole economy is a scam that only works if everyone keep consooming 24/7. if you think this virus will go away in less than 4 months youre retarded

>>17856939
>The FED spent 700 billion (8.5 Trillion today) in the span of several months in the 2008 recession
>Spending 1.5 trillion in a few weeks
>Intrest rates are now 0%
1929 is gonna be eclipsed unironically
Get ready bros

>>17857423
I'm fucking mowing a landing pad.

>>17857470
Very strong fundamentals, sir!
Buy! buy!

>>17857154
Explain to a brainlet who's just here for BRRRRRR and pink wojaks why

>>17856939
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>>17856939
Gotta help the jews or what burgers?

>>17857543
We are dropping faster than in 2008, even faster than during the great depression.
In 2008 the Fed cut rates to 0% and printed $700 billion to end the recession.
In 2020 the fed cut rates to 0% and printed $2.2 trillion and it nothing. There is nothing left to do. You will see double digit % drops starting the end of this week. And there is bottom, because it will snowball.

>>17856981
fed is try to stop a tidal wave with and umbrella

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>>17856981
A robbery is in progress.
People playing with the money of others are taking more. Their justification?
>We're losing your money

Dude trust me.

A whole bunch of nothing from the WH. Time to just sit back and let my positions mature into profit.

>>17857664
>In 2008 the Fed cut rates to 0% and printed $700 billion to end the recession.
OH YEAH REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THAT THING AND ENDED THE RECESSION

>>17857664
QE4 is $700B for now, but of course there will be more waves
the $2.2T are repo operations, not QE, i.e. not printed money

>>17856939
Honestly this is a level of ridiculous I can't even wrap my head around.

>>17857470
*.85 trillion today

Someone is gonna have to upgrade that .gif even further

>>17856939
>Feds have pumped over 2 trillion dollars in the past week alone
literally socialism for the (((rich))) and nothing for the goys

what a great country

>>17857780
this nigga is right lmao

>>17857797
Repo operations are printed money. You don't even know what repo operation are, do you? It means the Fed is printing money do buy dubious assets like securities from banks, because no one else wants them.

>>17857780
2008 never ended bros

>>17856939
They are so desperate. Reeeee I went through my alloted $300 a week in stock purchases already, should've not fomo'd in on monday.

>>17857413
QE is not temporary, they can't get out of it.
FED insisted on "normalizing" interest rate after 2009, they failed.. because everytime they tried the stock market responded very negative to it.
Same with QE, they can't get the money they borrow back, they can't sell what they bought.

The virus is the catalyst that will bring down this house of cards..
Although it may not seem like it right now, being in crypto and precious metals is the single best thing you can have located your money in, once helicopter money is announced (and it will), shit is gonna explode.

>>17857797
no, what you just described is QE
repo operations provide temporary liquidity, and are continuously paid back
sure, it's printed, but it hardly enters circulation (some of it does though, just not even remotely as much as the QE money)
to put it like this, the $700B of QE thus far affects the economy far, far more than the $2.2T of repos, since the QE money literally is what you described, i.e. the central bank printing money to buy assets
brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>>17857922
meant to reply to you, not myself (duh)

>>17857413
Says the increasingly nervous all in on stocks guy

>>17857094
this

spent more time deleting tweet history about economy

>>17858166
Helicopter money, isnt that where they steal consumers funds? Like it happened in Cyprus?

>>17858166
Crypto is crashing with no suvivors and is even more made up than your basic fiat currencies.

OH GOD IM GONNA.... IM GONNA.....
IM GONNA PROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONT

>>17856939
That 1.5 trillion fed pump was a short term loan that has to be paid back.

>>17857689
unironically

>>17858428
It amazes me people are this naive.

>>17858428
What happens when they don't pay back?

>>17858493
he's not naive, the repos literally work like that, although the fact that there are repos at all and that they're continously increasing and permanent obviously means the economy is fucked
QE on the other hand is literally the central bank going brrrrrrrrr and buying a shitton of assets, and they just did $700B of that, and that's only the beginning, so yeah
rip economy

>>17858286
right now people are pulling their speculative investments (like bitcoin)

once shit hits the fan they will realise that crypto is the solution to the upcoming FIAT crysis

>>17858540
of course, that will be the end of the game of musical chairs, but for the time-being it's still wrong to think of that money as having entered the money supply, like is the case with QE money
as soon as the banks collapse and don't pay back, then yeah, that money will essentially have been the same as QE, and the central bank might even do actual QE of that size to bail out the banks again
that would mean literal hyperinflation for the US though, RIP dollar

>>17858564
Repos are how they dump their bullshit junk corporate debt on the general public

>>17857780

>>17858564
Repos and OMOs are pretty normal, it's the sheer size of these that's unusual.

>>17858657
The Dollar will be fine. It's the base unit for international banking and trade, and that is enforced at the barrel of a gun, the US is immune to hyperinflation if that is the arrangement. The cost is that US workers are overpriced internationally and will get slowly hollowed out, but it means safe yet exorbitant profits for US capitalists and guaranteed access to raw materials provided the CIA and military do their jobs.

>>17858428
It will never be paid back bro lmao
That's the chains that they enslave us with, debt that WE have to pay back

>>17858644
No they won't. At most they will spike precious metals through the roof. No one will take a risk on crypto in a bad economy.

>>17859127
that we owe to ourselves WEWEEEE

jews are beyond this circus. they are crashing it at will.

say thank you master now

>>17858644
Wait until normies realize that they can buy PMs with BTC. Check and mate.

>>17856939
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>>17857094
yup

>>17856939
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>>17857530
i kind of want to fuck her

>>17858932
Look at the dollar strength index, the purchasing power of the dollar versus other currencies. It clearly fluctuate quite a lot over the time, at one point a US dollar was worth more than a Euro, at another point it was worth half a Euro.
So the dollar can inflate and deflate versus other currencies.. why would there be a limit to a dollar inflation? would a dollar being worth 1/4 of a Euro be impossible? what about 1/100?

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>>17856939
So that really rich people have a chance to jump ship without losing everything.

im a board tourist, but im glad this is happening. i know next to nothing about markets, but all these charts spiking up to easily in recent years seems unnatural.

>>17856939
BBBRRRRR

>>17856939
MAH DOLLERINOS!!!!!!

>>17856939
Never forget

>>17856939
trump can't lose

>>17859492
He's fast.

>>17860390
>F-for you

>>17860247
I'm genuinely curious how much this will affect his campaign. I thought he didn't have a single chance to lose the upcoming election but if everyone is furious about losing half their 401ks and people are getting fired left and right, its going to be a bloodbath for him, since the economy is literally his biggest win he would have otherwise bragged about.

>>17856939
>thread #800 where some retard doesn’t understand how repo works

I don't know how repo works.
How does it work?

>>17856939
9% up didn't help?

>>17862070
fed prints $ to loan. bank accepts loan and provides collateral. bank pays back loan w/interest at end of repo term.

>>17862070
Its basically refinancing your debts, except its a company and their debts are toxic. That toxic debt become's the governments problem instead.

(((they))) still havent fully cashed out
(((they))) will continue doing so til they fleece every single goy left around