/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17709688
Why has everyone got to have an agenda?
BORING

>>17709688
>muh bernie/biden would have stop the corona stock crash

>>17709721
> claim credit
> Dodge blaim
The buck stops with him

>>17709813
>everyone knows the crash was directly caused by bat soup made in China and haggling over oil between Russia and OPEC
>the president of the United States is to blame

>>17709688
Bernie can still fix this

>>17709813
>blaim

>>17710009
Too bad your party is too retarded to ever give him a chance, kek
I'm gonna be honest. Bernie is the only candidate who I truly believe could potentially beat Trump. You can't beat one extreme without another. And Biden is probably the least 'extreme' candidate they have right now

>he thinks Queen Vagina would have done better

my sides

>>17710221
My boomer parents can’t comprehend this.

>>17709992
I mean, realistically he has done nothing in regards to prevention, literally slower than CHINA to react. So now we are fucked. That’s not his fault?

>>17709688
>cut corporate tax
>cut flow-thru entity tax
>creates greatest bull market seen in decades
>random Chinese virus destroys economy
>plans on cutting payroll tax to help the economy adapt
ok retard

>>17709813
>Blaim

Bernie could have done better if the virus was intended to enter the United states because then people would have healthcare.
The only thing this cheeto Hitler could have done is closed the borders and he didn't even do that.

>>17709992
yep, deserves just as much blame as he took credit during the boom i would say

>>17710287
>realistically he has done nothing in regards to prevention
this is why it's his fault. He didn't want to do shit and downplayed Corona-Chan to keep the market calm and happy. When the market started to freak out a little he forced Jerome to cut rates then pump to keep the market afloat. Trump banked on it would all quickly blow over when literally all the experts and actual countries say otherwise. Now we're going to crash through the fucking floor because his only concern was trying to keep this bloated rotting corpse of an economy standing till after november.

>>17709688
>ThaNx dONalD

As a Eufag this amuses me. I just want to see the stockmarket crash hard. I really don't care who is your president. just crash it , i want my cheapies

>>17710394
Bernie wants to establish completely open borders and give healthcare to illegal aliens you fucking retard

>>17710394
>closed borders to the Chinese in January
Opinion invalid and immediately discarded.

>>17710484
literally none of the candidates ever said open borders. you schizos made that up on your own.

>>17710484
Yeah that's why he'd be able to stop the damage using the healthcare to stop people from dying.
Trump won't even do that and couldn't keep corona out so he's useless.

>>17710502
That didn't work retard. He should have closed all borders. What's the point of being racist towards Chinese when the Italians and Greeks are spreading it too?

Its his fault because he let the CIA release the virus in Wuhan because of the trade war. He didn't understand it would boomerang because he's a boomer who thought biowarfare would be just like a nuke.

>>17710641
i dont think it was biowarfare but if it was it was us.

bill gates charity doing a mock pandemic simulation of covid and american labs having patented it in 2015 is just too much of a coinkydink for me

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Military_World_Games

don’t worry guys he has Ivanka working on the cure right now

>>17710528
https://berniesanders.com/issues/welcoming-and-safe-america-all/

"regardless of immigration status"
"free college"
"free healthcare"

uhuh yeah this totally isn't open borders cuckery

>>17710673
It may have been another animal virus that went wrong and mutated. China has had 4 outbreaks since the tradewar started including the famous pig ebola, the same strain from Georgia/Russia that was used by the CIA to target Russian pork and Cuban hogs in the 1980s.

>>17710609
>It didn’t work
Cases in the US have just now broken 1100, not even confirmed cases. I’m sure you’re panicking about 31 dead Americans too.

>>17710737
Still not the same thing potatoe brain

>>17710221
Bernie was the last hope for this fucking country. Nothing will be done about climate change in the US, nothing will be done about corruption in the government. Other countries are going to modernize their energy infrastructure and the US will be left as a new third world nation.

>>17709813
you shills can't even correctly copy and paste into google translate anymore kek

>>17709688
You were warned

>>17710808
>climate change
>energy infrastructure
Sounds like privatization of science would be an easy way to combat these things as well as viral outbreaks. It’s too bad that’s the exact opposite of what Bernie wants.

>>17710808
Delusional.

The US and China are in an arms race for AI development, a revolution that could be as impactful as the introduction of computers. No other nation/group is even close. These are going to be the global superpowers for the next century.

The EU doesn't even have a military, is breaking apart in real time, and can't even agree on a fucking budget. Anyone who looks to the EU to lead ANYTHING is delusional or straight-up retarded.

>>17710942
Oh and the EU is the only major nation that's trying to "revolutionize its energy infrastructure" in any meaningful sense.

What a joke.

>>17710473
Tbf the US, particularly the West Coast is so intertwined with China on a daily basis that there was 0 chance of prevention. In all honesty California already has it and the actual best thing we can do is just accept it and move on and not panic. It isn't exactly the bubonic plague there really isn't a necessity to shut the world down. If you're a pregnant woman, aids patient, or old person just stay home til April-May that's it. That's all anyone could have done for you anyways.

>>17710473
No one can halt the spread of Corona.

You can spread it without showing any symptoms for multiple days. That's why it spread to Italy, the UK, the EU, China, and essentially everywhere else on earth.

You can blame Trump for his fuck-ups, but this really wasn't his fault.

>>17709688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcEnG7qxnLY

>>17711076
I'm not blaming him for it spreading that was inevitable. I'm blaming him for what comes next. We're gonna go face first into this with zero preparation cause he didn't want to spook the market.

Trump can make China pay for the virus, sort of like the wall right?

>>17711076
see
>>17711128


his blatant lying isn't helping.

imaginary money isn't "the economy"

>>17709721
Clinton would have
And she wouldn't have called it a hoax like a retard

>>17711160
It actually is tho because the calmer people stay the better. Again infection is inevitable but it isn't a death sentence. There is 0 reason for a panic.

>>17711160
>>17711146
I'm not saying he did everything perfectly, but I genuinely can't blame him for his response. He wanted to avoid panic, both for the market as well as for the people.

What should he have done? Thrown the nation into a panicked frenzy over a disease that we really can't stop? Only to have the same outcome we're talking about now? Trump has dropped the ball in the past, but I really don't blame him for the spread of coronavirus.

>>17711192
>Clinton would have
Yeah she would have let chang pound her asshole for a quick buck alright.

>>17709688
Why do people blame economic troubles on the president when he has little to no control over any of it?

>>17711007
>If you're a pregnant woman, aids patient
Not even them actually. Not a single pregant woman has died from it, and most HIV+ people are on drugs to control it, so they in theory still have a functioning immune system assuming their drug supply is secured.

Death camps for leftoids now.

>>17711352
Yeah but if my wife was pregnant I'd still want her to be extra careful. Maybe no woman has died from it but idk if they keep track of miscarriages and shit.

>>17711438
>my wife having a cough will kill my baby
Weak genes

>>17711209
>libertarians now defend the government purposefully lying to people all for the sake of "calming the market"
You people lost the fucking plot in 2016 in a big way.

>>17710808
>Bernie was our last hope
Just admit you got scammed by that boomer kike and move on, tranny. Life is what you make of it

>>17711546
I'm not a libertarian or a Trump supporter but you're dumb as fuck if you think the lie is that corona virus was a.) Preventable after the Chinese let millions out of Wuhan or b.) In any way an existential threat to the human race.

The lie is that the quarantines are for medical purposes.

>>17710528
>>17710794
>Decriminalize illegal border crossing from a criminal offense to a civil one, making it even more likely to go unpunished
>moratorium on (ie stopping) deportations until an analysis of policies and practices is done (so for god knows how long)
>Reinstating and expanding DACA
>breaking up U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP)
>shutting down “cruel and inhumane deportation programs and detention centers” and reuniting separated families
>Offer free LITERALLY FUCKING EVERYTHING
Bernie Cucks:
>He never said the exact phrase "open borders" so it's not open borders
Please. Kill yourselves.

>>17709721
op never said that you retarded migaboomer
go back to /ptg/

>>17711796
What are you then? An apolitical bootlicker? Every ideology on the planet, in theory, agrees government transparency is desirable.

>>17711347
because he's a retard who could have handled this much better
t. voted trump

>>17710808
This is the problem with people. This insane belief in a messiah that's going to come and fix everything and make the utopia happen. Whether it's Bernie, Trump, Obama, or Jesus. It's never going to happen. We are flawed creatures and the world will always be flawed.

>>17710287
>realisticly he has done nothing

He reduced reliance on Chinese imports more than any other President in history. Obama, Bush, Clinton, and pretty much any president since the 70s is to blame here. Trump inherited the mess in China. The Chinese economy has not done well since Trump took office.

>>17710880
This is wrong, but if Biden leads (likely due to healthcare being the biggest issue), the market will tank leading up to the election.

>>17709688
Bernie can fix all of this with 95% taxes on the rich

>>17711943
>its actually biden's fault trump won't release the actual infection numbers all at once
LMFAO

>>17710808
think i got aids just reading this, imagine actually believing in the climate change hoax and that bernout would have fixed everything and on top of that believing USA will become a 3rd world country
>>17711847
>believing that trump is anything but a controlled rothschild frontman
trump just like every other politician puppet do whatever royals want

>>17711833
Ideally I'm an anarcho-mutualist with anarcho-christian sensibilities but I live in the real world and so I'm a bit more pragmatic with my expectations of what is actually going to happen. Transparency also is not like this end all be all goal necessarily either mob panic is a real thing and you do need cooler heads to temper messaging on some instances. It's very overly simplistic to say that everyone should know everything all the time. Society would destroy itself, it's functionally saying that society can and should exist without any lies altogether but that leads to a world of other issues interpersonally and otherwise because humans aren't purely rational actors and emotions have to be accounted for and assuaged as necessary.

>>17709688
I'm more impressed over the fact a Chinaman can simply eat some bat soup and cause a global crash

>>17712098
It was an American bioweapon to attack China that backfired

>>17711352
Most of our drugs are imported from China and they've started banning exports of medical equipment.

>>17712185
>American bioweapon
>Wuhan has the largest virology building in the world
>But it's America, not the Chinese government
Okay buddy

>>17712045
There's mob panic precisely because the government isn't being transparent letting hearsay and speculation run rampant.

>>17712247
CDC and the appropriate government agencies have already told everyone what this is. It's a highly contagious mild-moderate respiratory ailment from the corona family (a family in which we already know a lot about and vaccinate against many strains of). I mean that's it anon that's all there is to it. It really is a flu- tier disease. There is no reason to quarantine. People are panicking because China and Italy panicked.

>>17712553
>CDC and the appropriate government agencies have already told everyone what this is.
https://www.wftv.com/news/health/florida-refusing-release-number-people-tested-state-coronavirus/MOTRIMONLFHHNLKQP7I5VCV64M/

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-claims-covid-19-could-disappear-2020-2

>>17712243
the cpc used kau chim divination to predict the americans would attack wuhan so they built a facility in defense

>>17712604
What's the actual point of releasing the number of cases? How will that assuage fear? All the pertinent facts about what the virus actually is have been released. It probably won't kill you and it will probably infect almost everyone eventually. This is literally all anyone needs to know. If they release the number of cases people will just flip out because hypochondria is one of the most common mental illnesses.

>>17711410
This. Leftists have no right to speak and no right to live.

>>17712676
>What's the actual point of releasing the number of cases?
Because the numbers are complied by government agencies, and they don't own the data, it's by law freely available to anyone in the country.
The issue isn't the data being released, it's the relentless propaganda by the media who are making millions from the additional ad revenue from people glued to the screen or going to websites to see what the kerfluffle is all about.
Corona is a mild flu for most people. Yes, we should be testing and taking measures to deal with it, but the media has blown it so out of proportion, they have everyone thinking it's the new Black Plague. And, have been ginning up the most idiotic, ridiculous excuses to blame this on Trump.
This is how desperate the mentally unhinged left has become. They are willing to tank economies and scare the living shit out of everyone over nothing, because they can't get over Hillary lost. (While their own yet again dryfucked Bernie right in front of them, but they'll vote Dem anyway, because Orange man Bad)
It's crazy times, anons. Strap the fuck in.

>>17712871
Once again >>17711990