/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for misato

>>17693733
fucking burn

how am i getting rich anon
just dropped 800 bux in stonks and made approx 30 bux
am i buying shale oil companies tomorrow or what

>>17693733
Won't buy shit untill I see closed cities in the US.

>>17693812
Won't go long until vaccination

>>17693757
/ss/ is nice

So Red tomorrow huh?

The bull has been prepped lads

>>17693837
Vaccination will take at least a year to develope.

10th for SNSS $55 EOM

first for relief rally

>DAX futures at 5%
Bearbros... I'm getting nervous

Fuck tripfags btw

/ss/ bros

SNSS CALLING EARNINGS NOW

wish i had money at a time like this

17th for relief rally

>>17693588
>pumping
>still trading at a loss for today

>>17693966
you mean what they did yesterday only to close down 1.5%?

Is Robinhood really that bad? Surely it's FDIC protected right?

>>17694025
Wouldn't surprise me if they fucked up their insurance as well
>woops we lost all your guys' money and it turns out we were ignoring our mail so yeah heres a number you can call maybe you can convince them for us to get your money back

bearbros looks like I'm ruined

>>17693733
TVIX HODLERS AND OTHER SHORT SELLERS. GIVE YOUR STRENGTH! TOMORROW WE BRING DOWN THE MARKET!

is this ending any time soon

>At lunch with Trump today, Sen. Richard Shelby, the Senate appropriations chairman, said GOP senators asked Trump about how the package would be paid for and the cost of the package -- and says they didn't get an answer.
lol
this is going to be a shitshow

>>17694134
the bull has been prepped and crab is to be activated tomorrow

INO is going back up!

I bought spy $269p for 3/20 in the middle of the pump at $284. I'm already down 20%. This is going back down right? What good news can make this market rally further? I even read that some experts believe there will be violent swings for a while but then again nobody really knows what they're talking about. Anyways how'd you guys do today? I was cash gang until the pump

where is AYTU anon?

>>17691100
>https://twitter.com/DeItaOne/status/1237432522448961536?s=20
OHHHHH FUCK
Calling TDA tonight. Gonna see if I like them better than Schwab.

>>17694025
I know that matters for cash, but I don't know about stocks and options. If I remember right, people who invested with Lehmann never got their investments back.

Can one of the 2008 obsessives verify?

>>17694324
Impossible to say, which is why leverage is dangerous. I just use SH if I want to short or hedge...

Is this the beginning of the eternal bull market?

>>17694324

I'm on the hook for $278 on 3/30. Todays rally is because of FED pumping. Hopefully it acts like last week and tanks hard anyways. There's nothing to be bullish about at all, with multiple States declaring states of emergency and with places starting to do massive population quarantines.

There's absolutely no reason for this market to go up. So of course it probably will.

Anyone else buy $dow at the low today? Best pickup i have made in my short time buying stonks

>>17694418
Sorry, but it's over. The bullrun has resumed. Nothingburger confirmed.
I hope you're ready! Today was the first rally of many to bring us all the way back to 30k!

REMINDER: The wider markets are now where crypto was in early 2018. The behavior, psychology and memes are identical

Unless you are a complete newfag or boomer nocoiner, you should know what to do

ETERNAL CLOWN MARKET

>>17694506
are you talking about before or after the cypto crash

>>17693733
Post her name please

>>17694476
Exactly

We already priced it in. Only up now

>>17694522
During, we are living the very moment right now

lol exactly 25001

excellent pump, feds

Lotta zerohedge loons here now. The market is free and fair.

>The market is free and fair
Which is why complanies like TTI can offshore everything, make truely awful products, and still be hugely valuable, right? No, billionaires and tribalists look out for their own. There is a super large amount of market manipulation going on right now.

hope you bulls are ready to see some serious red tomorrow.

>>17693990
boosted it to 1.02 for 5 mins. Wow.

>>17694698
>red
>the color of an aroused bull's penis
hmmmmm
well either way

did way too much trimming so i wouldn't mind seeing some bloody streets

How do we know when enough margin calls have been issued to be done with this stage of consolidation?

reminder that germans arent dying because they are white and italian deaths are proof that sh*talians are not white

hey guys i'm new to this whole stocks thing.

what is a "crab market"

>>17694767
do u no how crab walks

>>17694790
with its legs!

There is no creature so pathetic as the happeningfag.

Buying 5 calls at 75$ for 4/17 on FIVN, bros. Wish me luck.

Bought back my VIACA cause I was tempted by the cheap price and that Divvy/Yield.

>>17694790
i know how they itch!

>shills say corona is nothing
>it explodes now
>shills now say market is genuine and unmanipulated
Always do the opposite of what they say.

Red day tomorrow bois

after this, demand for hand sanitizer will remain high as people remember that time it was completely sold out...

who makes lots of this shit? P&G? JNJ?
who owns purell?

>>17694872
>who owns purell?
gojo, it's (((privately owned)))

>>17694506
people that havent seen a bear market (aka 95% of nocoiners on this board too young to remember 2008) cant understand the psychology and think crashes are short, ephemeral things rather than sustained downturns

Anyone here using Simply Wall St? Is it any good?

>>17693733
Post her feet right fucking now

>>17694272
>bought at 5.73
Ayyyy

>>17694908
WALL STREET POZZED
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-barclays-idUSKBN20X2PV

i'm sick of smg being contained to generals, we're the only interesting shit happening
smg should be /biz/, fuck the crypto scammer monopoly on board space

>>17694908
Its a cartoon & your fetish sucks. Kys

>>17694164

This is true of literally every bernie policy. Politicians don't give it away too early so that the other side doesn't sabotage. Go home brainlet.

Any of you anons who aren't living in cities that haven't been touched yet by the Coronavirus panic do you intend to become a black-market supplier? Im' in pittsburgh and the panic hasn't kicked in toilet paper and hand sanitizer are still stocked and I may be inclined to buy some extra bottles or rolls to sell on campus after break when the inevitable corona panic sets in.
Do you have any good price points or other items to stock up on to sell for a first time black marketeer who needs to refund his stock account?

>>17693733
I just bought my first option.. a GLD call because I think it will go up. They expire on the 20th and the "strike price" is around 160. Is this retarded? What do I do next?

>>17694926
Didn't mean to reply. My bad.

>>17694933
Bruh if we tried to go to main biz the cancerous crypto kiddies would ruin all the threads

>>17694899
Worse yet, people are completely unequipped to handle the emotions that such huge swings at the beginning bring

You can see it all around now (filtering out the shitposting)

>>17694941
>Its a cartoon & your fetish sucks. Kys

bearbros i dont feel so good...

>>17694948
I thought you meant GILD and was gonna call you retarded but honestly GLD is also retarded.

>new york containment zone centered around a synagogue
lol

>>17694843
>VIACA
want to redpill me on VIACA anon

Ok so I loaded my E-trade page at work. Was on my lunch break so no one gives a shit. It loaded fine. I use firefox at work also. So I get home and load E-trade. Still fucked. Again. Same browser. Both same versions. Was able to work around the fuckary but still.. It displays a blank screen with some little thing called Sharescreen in the corner. I click the Question mark icon it brings up the help section. I click the Faqs option, At this point a new window displays everything at the top properly, all tabs and your account logoff option. So I dunno.

>tfw just found out about MAGA stock
>is an index that tracks companies that are supportive of Republican candidates
>it has options trading
>corona virus + election year
How has nobody here mentioned this stock before? This is going to be EASY money.

>>17694977
>>17694899
I'm still thinking the bottom is 30-50 days out once the virus is fully spread and effecting everyone's normal day

>>17694989
so what's not retarded?

>>17693837
bullshit, whats your source?

>>17695000
This is just as dumb as the E.S.G. investors.

>>17694948

No no anon, that is not how this works.

You don't ask for advice when you lack experience, you state your trade and defend it rabidly calling others who disagree gay and retarded, regardless of whether you know what you are doing or not.

Then whoever is right screencaps the other.

>>17694134
the fucking volatility the last two weeks feel worse than when I was trying to make money on penny stocks

>>17694998
i use firefox w/ etrade no problem. you probably have some plugin like noscript fucking with it

>>17694998
they suck

i use them and haven't been able to get funds into my acct, had to sell to avoid a random margin limit expectation

customer support was on hold for over an hour today and hung up, chat support has been down all day

>>17694995
Well I'm hanging on to it cause hell the 52w high is almost 54 dollars. I figure I can wait and collect a divvy till the price goes back up.

>>17695002
The bottom is nowhere near that close. What part of slow, sustained downtrend don't you understand?

It'll be slowwww Chinese water torture with long periods of sideways and some relief rallies

When the actual bottom comes, people will be in such a lull that they won't be ready for it and the violent dumps

>>17695031
You think so?

>>17695055
you wont buy the bottom and you'll miss the recovery, then cry about it for the next 5 years. you permabears are so predictable

>>17694476
The amount of delusion in this general never falls to amaze me

>>17695034
>worse
It's the most fun I've had in years

HURRRR DUUURRRRRR DURRRRRR

Kek look at prnt etf max time view

Trump is going to requisition 500 million barrels of crude for the Strategic Petroleum Reserve from domestic oil producers. Feel free to screen cap this.

>>17695055
>t. my ass

It will be sharper and more painful than that and you know it.

>>17695032
fuck I knew I was doing shit wrong.. you faggots are gonna neck soon when my calls RIP. cap this

>>17695110
Pretty much, you're being a sheep with a different shepherd.

But it looks like this isn't just SPY so maybe it'll be an interesting list. I like that it's got LLY... I trimmed today on that pump, hoping for another dip but... I think we may keep pumping after how oversold we were.

>>17695055
>What part of slow, sustained downtrend don't you understand?
mostly the "slow, sustained" part, also the "trend" part. I don't think the market understands either.
Have you not been watching the lines? they've been making wild moves.

>bought CHX
Well, this can only go well.

ok this sucks. Tried to load e-trade in chrome and IE 11. No mater which browser it displays the same blank page with the screenshare thing on it. Last week it loaded fine in Firefox so I dunno. Like I said before. At work in firefox it loads fine. Just my home computer is fucked. Maybe I need to flush the cache or someshit I don't know. Shit

>>17694790
...sideways?

What the fuck is Kudlow's old ass doing up there?

Oh. He's there to pump the market and try to encourage the consumer.
>Employment numbers
wewwwww

>>17695310
bingo
on his legs

>>17694164
Doesn't not make it a shitshow. Bernie isn't the president. Trump is.


>>17694164
Liquidate all that excess that the armed forces keep saying they don't need or want.

>>17693733
Markets are so fucking funny right now, the only reason they pump is because of the FED then they get retards to by into the pump and then drop their bags on you.

Oh no bullbros, we got too cocky

Seasonality of coronavirus family examples

The boomers finally looked at the news lmao

SOW THE WIND, REAP THE WHIRLWIND

ATTENTION ALL ROBINHOOD USERS
>ATTENTION ALL ROBINHOOD USERS
ATTENTION ALL ROBINHOOD USERS
>ATTENTION ALL ROBINHOOD USERS
ATTENTION ALL ROBINHOOD USERS
>ATTENTION ALL ROBINHOOD USERS
ATTENTION ALL ROBINHOOD USERS
>ATTENTION ALL ROBINHOOD USERS
ATTENTION ALL ROBINHOOD USERS
>ATTENTION ALL ROBINHOOD USERS

Get the fuck out of Robinhood now, they are going bankrupt. Go make an account on another broker and ask them to help transfer your assets. If you can't transfer, liquidate everything and withdraw your money ASAP.

>>17695616
NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>17695616
>SOW THE WIND, REAP THE SQQQ

>>17695644
>tfw loaded up before market close

>>17695606
Except that is just positive tests for a small subset of corona viruses that arent covid 2019. You can't fool me into investing after the dow shed 3k in weeks.

>>17695606
>implying boomers have foresight
They literally only care about their own immediate peril.

>INO dumps like crazy
>INO shills vanish
God damnit, some times I wish 4chan had perma ID's or at least annual ID's all across the website. So no matter where they ran we could run after just to laugh at them.. sad

>>17695665
>>17695644
ah yes, leverage.
That always goes well...

>>17695681
>talking about points instead of percentages
literally meaningless though?

>>17695623
Today's the day, I'll finally make the call today. Probably.

>>17695616
>>17695644
tell me its gunna fall tomorrow frens bought most of that just before mkt close

https://www.investing.com/news/politics/coronavirus-fears-prompt-biden-sanders-to-cancel-campaign-rallies-2106606

>Coronavirus fears prompt Biden, Sanders to cancel campaign rallies

BIDEN CAN NOT SAVE YOU

FUTURES TANKING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>17695783
The bears are back in town

How will Spring Break in the states factor into this?

Roasties getting the Ronis?

>>17693733

Threadly Reminder.

>>17695783
The expected retracement for traders is NQ to ~8135 and ES to ~2800, if we break that without strong buys then that's "futures tanking".. but for now it's just regular boring shit happening

>>17693733
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-barclays-idUSKBN20X2PV?taid=5e680707e318b900014a1f0e&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

>>17695731
Could only afford 41 shares of SQQQ myself :(
Your gains are coming anon the fed can't stop it forever

>>17695126
underrated

>>17694943
Bernie explained how he would pay for his policies, it just so happens that it wouldn't work they way he thinks it would.
But I do like the instant deflection to a democrat who isn't even going to win the primary.

>>17695623
Generally uninformed trader here. So if they go bankrupt what exactly happens to the assets you have on there? It all just goes poof and is unrecoverable?
I ask because of the 3 days it takes after selling before you can withdraw.

SANDERS HAS CORONAVIRUS

>>17695891
>Bernie explained how he would pay for his policies
No he fucking didn't kek'd. He basically did a "oh you'll see" when he promised some more free shit last week or whenever it was

>>17695909
If he does hes 100% fucked

>>17695909

>>17695905
>So if they go bankrupt what exactly happens to the assets you have on there?
they get returned to you in the case of cash, otherwise holdings (stocks, ETFs, etc.) would be transferred to another broker for you. it's not the first time a broker has closed shop

>>17695919
????????

He's said MULTIPLE times how he'll pay for medicare for all.

tax on wall street speculative spending
increase taxes on the RICH ONLY. 95% of people would only see a 1% rise in taxes, rich would get a massive tax (up to 52%)
cut military defense spending

Under bernie's plan we would spend HALF as much as we do now for healthcare

Why is Bitcoin so closely correlated with stonks?

>>17695979
The majority of stocks are paid for with bitcoin

>>17695905
This >>17695967
But it might be locked up for a long time, you wont be able to even look at your holdings.

Could corona please kill the banking industry and save my puts thanks

>>17693935
8 months or less screen cap this and your a faggot

>>17695973
Medicare for all is not the only free shit he has promised voters you dingus. Outside of that though, that's my point.. he can't promise to pay for something that won't even work. His plans on how to pay for shit won't even remotely gather as much money as he says it will which makes the argument invalid.
So it's basically "oh you'll see" comment because he refuses to answer the critics that tells him it won't work. Even fucking Europe themselves (that he used as an example btw) shut him down with his idea to tax wall street, kek'd.

>>17695973

t. retard who believes the commie snake oil salesman. Even Ted Cruz raped Bernie over his podium on the subject on financing his Medicare scam.

Pay your student loans faggot

seriously though, how does germany only have a .1% death rate on coronavirus?

>DAX already -2%
this market is so fucking retarded jesus christ

>sanders gets elected
>all the rich move
EVERY
TIME

So now that tangible effects are being seen in the USA with universities across the country shutting down and wuhan 2.0 cropping up in NYC, how many of you are still considering buying the 'dip'

>>17695623
if they go insolvent Goldman Sachs will literally buy them out, they've been trying for years

>>17693733
I was offline all day. We /bull/ now? Or dead cat bounce?

>>17696135
Name 3 times

>>17696103
t. inbred trumptard who can't do basic math.

how can you call bernie a snakepoil salesman? honestly? he has a verifiable record.

let me pose you a simple question:

Candidate A:
1994: I support gay marriage
2020: I support gay marriage

Candidate B:
2008: I want to boost social security
2020: we're gonna rape your social security to pay for debt

which is more trustworthy?

>>17695973
>tax on wall street speculative spending
okay, don't choke on his cock now, that may be how he phrased it, but it would be a tax on every trade, which would work at current trading volume
the only problem is, so much trading is done by algorithm nowadays that the margin of profit shrinking by even that small amount, would lower the amount of robo-trades, lowering the amount of taxes collected and thus making the system bust
I find the rhetoric of both pro and anti-bernie fags irritating, but anyone who brings him up in an unrelated discussion is undoubtedly the biggest faggots of them all

oh look, it was another bull trap as expected, and all the retarded boomers actually tried to "buy the dip" again LOL!

>>17696164
based disabled and gay gibs me dat loser

>>17696174

>>17695835
but we were there last week?

>>17696174
Where can I see this information. Where is this currently active other than not the USA?

>>17694790
Fuckin lold.

>>17696211
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures

The URL is in the OP.

>>17696230
Facepalm* Thanks m8

>>17695973
>tax on wall street speculative spending
>increase taxes on the RICH ONLY
>95% of people would only see a 1% rise in taxes
>cut military defense spending
You seriously believe this heaping bullshit? You are the definition of a useful idiot.

>>17695835
fixed

>crab day until feds pump
>futures in closing hours tank
>dip day
>futures go up a little bit
>crab day until feds pump
>futures in closing hours tank
I'm starting to see a pattern.

>>17696174
>numbers this early meaning anything
4:30 eastern is when they actually show anything of value. There’s primaries happening tonight too so people are afraid of Bernie winning. If Biden does well and Trump turnout is good markets will continue to rally tomorrow.

>>17696242
why would i not? There is 0 evidence on why i should not believe it, compared with MOUNTAINS of evidence as to why literally every other politician's plans are trash.

give me trumps plan with a breakdown in how to pay for it

give me biden's plan to break it down.

you can't, cuz everyone else's is trash.

>>17696161
france
sweden
germany

>>17696245
agreed

>>17696263
vermont
california
new york

>>17696263
Those are countries, not people.

>>17696298
Yes, where people are located. Good job on figuring this out anon, you did great today!

>>17696260
>There is 0 evidence on why i should not believe it
We literally told you why. Is this the brainlet hour or what? What's going on?

Uh oh stonky!

>>17696298
>moving goalposts
Irving Gould
Jim Rogers
Eduardo Saverin
And companies already use tax havens and get away with as it is. What is Sander's solution for Apple or Amazon holding their assets in Ireland, Switzerland or wherever the fuck.

>>17696333
You haven't proved a thing until you specify people or citation in rich flight from those countries as a result of taxation.

>>17695032
>>17695248
kek my sides

>>17695623
wow you are a huge fucking nigger. go back china man im not using your bs webul

>>17696354
I didn't see this gay ass banana in years and I didn't miss it either, delet

>>17696396
td
schwab
Literally anything
Kys kike
I know this is bait

>>17696164
found the boomer
you think we give a fuck about your SS boomer?
your SS isn't even paid for, I wont have it because you boomer fucks wont die and elected Bush 2 times. fuck you.

>>17696376
If you want to see a modern example from state to state look up Calkfornia flight to Texas. Its happening to people and businesses moving operations to a more business friendly area.

>>17696396
>RH shill
Get fucked, bitch.

>>17696421
keeping robinhood and screencapping so you can remember how much of a dumbfuck you are

>>17695623
As long as it happens after my INO and AMD shares moon I’m okay with that. Recommendations?

Don't think, just buy.
Just buy.
Buy.

>>17696479
baggie you forgot your trip

my little brother just told me to short guacamole futures

Just watched the big short anons
Is this one going to be just as bad?

>>17696450
whos the shill
>ROBINHOOD GOING BANKRUPT
no source just spastic zoomer texting
whos the fucking shill? lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll>>17695623

>>17696450
td and swab would LOVE RH to go under, fuck off literally you shilling. im not paying a broker to trade when I can do it free. RH outage didn't affect me because im not a fucking moron when I trade.

This is a sign you cant lose if you dont sell im going camping for 2 months

>>17696485
Trip users were the ones calling for the next recession last night. Bears on this board were either /pol/ happening posters or are people who will never make it and want to drag everyone else down with them.
Bull market 2020-2025

>>17696164
t. I'M GAY

Which pharma is heavily sunk into HRT therapy? I'm going to place puts on them, demand gunna go way down after TranSanders transcend their mortal coil via the rope after tn's loss to Bidenchan.

>>17696526
delusional zoomer sperg

>>17696376
HOW ABOUT YOU READ ABOUT WHY EUROPEAN COUNTRIES ABOLISHED THEIR WEALTH TAX YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID
I'm from Sweden and when our government introduced the wealth tax they raised a couple of hundred millions through taxes but lost over a hundred billion from lost capital because the rich simply moved away, because it's not hard for them to move away which a brainlet like you seem to have a hard time understanding. Do you know what happened after? The government made loop holes which made the rich come back. The funny part about this is the fact that Bernie loves to use Scandinavia as an example because he knows his supporters are too dumb and blind to look into these things and we have a perfect example right here with you posting your garbage.

I mean holy fuck, can't you just do some sort of research yourself for once? Or are you afraid that the research might skew your view of the beloved comrade Sanders?

Stonks doin' good enough for me :^)

>>17696491
maybe

if the government does nothing, yes

we have almost hit 0.78 retracement do you guys think we are going to 0.6?

>>17696566

It's funny that the sanders crew want the corona meme to be real and oil to floor. Scandinavian socialist utopias will collapse like dominos, invalidating the theory once and for all. Finally, we will have the 100% failure rate that idiotic theory deserves. Can't wait.

>>17696597
oh shit I just realized it took 16 years to return from 2001 crash.
Future does not look good
IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD

>>17696597
Hm, that makes the last couple weeks look like nothing

>>17696657
>>17696672
We retraced to .5 on the dot the last two crashes

>>17696597
Good god, that's all it has gone down so far? That's fucking nothing, jesus christ this is only beginning

>>17696486
how?

>>17696597
>>17696719
What the hell is retracement?

>>17696753
You ever retrace your steps to get back to where you were in your past?

>>17696753
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_retracement

>>17696753
when you trace over a picture that's been traced from another picture

>>17696627
You mean Norway? Not all scandinavian countries are full of oil dude. Cope more.

>>17696245
Just tell me what to fucking buy nigger

>>17696786
>fibonacci retracement really doesn't even exist and is not based in any kind of logic
>but because some dude theorized it might be true, traders set their stops at fib intervals, thereby making fibonacci retracement true post-hoc
Stock trading is so fucking gay.

Oh I forgot I had to post this

>>17696918
>making things true because we believe them to be true
It's tight as fuck boi, WAAAAAGH now

>>17693733
the SNSS dump tomorrow is going to ge glorious. i will definitely be buying it, then selling it as soon as it reaches $1 again. i will make more money in those few days then SNSS Anon ever will when he inevitably sells at .10 before the company goes tits up.

>>17696918
I mean you couldn't draw the support lines better if you tried. Fib ratio's is what the algo's use hence what the market does.

>>17696853
Thank you, anon
Buy INO when it drops to 6 again

>>17696991
haha how do I delete posts

>>17694986
why not it still overvalued, im looking for undervalued stonks that shouldn't be

>>17696121
Wait 2 weeks

>>17696991
>>17697004
Fuck off nigger

>>17696918
its actually based. i didnt get it until i did DMT (the frog kind) and you understand that everything: how organs work, how markets work, how plants grow, literally everything is the same math equation. algos would be trading the exact same way regardless. the physical world manifests itself according to the equation, not vice versa. its the same reason you will think of a random word you have not thought of in years, then you will see/hear it in several places in a short time.

Biden just became the Democratic nominee. Screenshot this.

>>17697056
this is one of my favorite pictures ever from the internet and i was pleased to find out it was just a random creation (someone on deviantart or some shit). i dont know why but it makes it better that way

>>17697084
Damn, I thought #Sandersurge which Twitter had trending for the past 4 hours. Kek'd

>>17696245
>>17695835
This chart is 11 years old. Did you go back in time?

>>17697020
Overvalued in what, cash? Cash is trash. Dow to 90k EOY

Fuck me man, they front ran the good level.. no new entries for me. Feels bad man

>>17697137
might be an edit, i have this one on my disk.
ride instead of life. don't know which one is the original.

>>17694506
I have a question which, after one thinks about it enough, may lead him to choices which can preserve or generate great wealth.
>it's always bothered me
Why is the "velocity of money" so low and keeps going down? I believe it is due to "free money", the printing by the fed, that has ended up in stocks and benefits the uber wealthy, including corporations. The lower middle class and under uses money primarily for day-to-day purchases, and a few times in their lives for houses or vehicles. The wealthy use it for stocks, where it sits most of the time, only to be shuffled around to bonds during downturns. Remember the 90's? A fairly innocent time, when times felt "good". Why? /velocity of money was high, that's why. People were more benevolent. This all leads to the pinch we're in, and the contortions one must go through to survive this; even somewhat the rich (cont)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2V

>>17697303
>https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2V
scroll down to the other resources, click
>FRED Blog
>A plodding dollar: The recent decrease in the velocity of money
read. it's an old article but the definition hasn't changed

>>17697303
(cont.) The governments of the world will print money like crazy...world-wide recession, with a fair amount of inflation. Banks own government, so they will make sure they cannot lose. Bonds lose to low demand at some point. Stocks take initial hit, but the wealthy have enough money to weather the "storm" for however long it will take before new all-time highs are reached (due to inflation). The best way to preserve wealth is to COUNT ON THE DOLLAR BEING DIMINISHED, though not relative to other currencies (as they will all be diminished, likely including gold). So it seems to me that the guy that wins is the one who can hold the most low-interest debt while charging others a higher interest rate. Either that or purchase the stocks of companies you know will be around in 10 or 15 years and still producing product/service that is in same or increased demand. So anons, what to buy in this downturn? Or what to buy that only accrues in value, whether there is a down-turn or whether Trump and the Fed prevent

https://youtu.be/3eYyAiDhYkA
This vid helps break down some of it, but you must ignore actual numbers. In this world, all things things should be looked at more as ratios or percentages, not dollar figures. (Ie, debt in dollars is moot unless earnings in dollars is known.)
https://youtu.be/3eYyAiDhYkA

>>17697475
You have a good point [as illustrated by pic] (although I think my proposition still holds a certain amount of merit)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/W986RC1Q027SBEA

>>17697475
>>17697598
...then again, note the contrast between the combined savings rate (in dollars), and rate of personal (pic)

HEEEEEERE WE GO AGAIN

>>17696765
>>17696786
>>17696792
oh, so psuedoscience. Gotcha

>>17697691
BUT WE PRINTED MORE FAKE MONEY ??? HOW CAN THIS BE ?????

>>17697716
kek, I love these threads, they're funnier than any oh the ones on /b/, and I'm learning how to lose money

(Market better tank tommorow)

>>17697716
If it’s fake then it won’t devalue the dollar. Nice.

Maybe that’s why we haven’t seen all that hyperinflation yet? They’re just printing fake money.

Will I make dosh tmrw?

>UK Health minister Nadine Dorries tests positive to coronavirus

Accumulate as many Disney puts as you can.

Park shutdown is imminent

>>17694833
Good luck!

FINE FINE FINE I'M A BEAR NOW I'M A BEAR PLEASE JUST LET ME MAKE SOME MONEY I'VE LOST SO MUCH ALREADY

why do you fucks have 3 threads running every time

Can Trump please stop printing money? I'm going to have to convert my cash position to something hedged against inflation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQzdAsjWGPg

>>17693733
Go all in on SPY and DISNEY Puts.

>>17697788
I'm usually a bull too anon, but the writings on the walls

>>17696957
>Being a faggot
>Advertising it
You won't make shit

>>17697762
Are you that same guy always talking about taleb?

You said his book was good but we may have different taste. What are your other favorite books and authors?

>>17697756
>>17697743
Painfully true. Not only is he outmatched, he thinks his words speak louder than his actions.

>>17697824
>it’s clear
Lmao total speculation based on wishes and dreams. It could short squeeze but there’s no other real reason to believe it has a future. The business model is out of date and they will have to take major risks if they want to turn it around.

BERNIE LOST MICHIGAN
BULL MARKET

>>17697825
Im pretty deep in SPY and QQQ puts.
Going to pick up dis, fun, six, and seas puts tomorrow. They will crash hard when they close all parks.

My job sent an all employee email that their 401k's can only be changed once a year and only the last day of November. That employees should stop calling the investment firm handling the 401ks since there is nothing htey can do. I laughed out loud when they finished the email with "You're Welcome".

>>17697825
I can only afford 90$ and under DIS puts
any other affordable puts to recommend for my poorfag ass?
DIS is defeintly hapapening because shareholders meeting tomorrow

>>17697847
This is the first time I mentioned Taleb in /smg/ his books are flawed and so is his investment philosophy, but he coined the term black swan in finance circles.

>>17697801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka-RFR-fgfQ&feature=youtu.be&t=10

>>17697847
>The business model is out of date
I already said they are going to change their business model and we will hear about it April 7. But please, buy more puts.

>>17697848
Top kek, the only states Bernie won were pretty much the states with the most hispanics.. now that's pretty damn sad

>>17697848
pls no i bought $20k of sqqq at close

>>17697855
401ks can be rolled over to a self directed IRA every year with no penalty. So there absolutely is something you can do (I did this January). Lots of misinformation from HR and accounting/finance Staceys at office jobs. You can look up this info on investopedia.

>>17697858
Honestly, look into FORD. Puts are super cheap right now and supply chain shock is killing them. Just try to stay close to the money. I'd recommend going for $5.50 puts for at least 2-3 weeks out. It's what I loaded up on.

>>17697913
Ah F, GM, and FCAU stock as well
thinking April.
Hopefully no Gov intervention

When gold price increases this fast, that always means bad news right?
From 1200 to 1700+ in just a year?

Jesus... all these redditors in my thread... options gambling against the US stock market while the Don of the Dow is in office, and the Fed is determined to keep it from tanking.

>>17697885
I believe they wanted to make their stores into a social space, like a cafe type thing. This would be a very bad time for that...
if it squeezes, well I wouldn't hate an opportunity to open a short position.

>>17697936
>Hopefully no Gov intervention
serious? Just make sure you all flip your puts quickly. When you say options are "cheap" I hope you're not just looking at the price of the option.

We expecting a biden bump

https://imgur.com/a/M0Tejqs

DIS FUCKING PUTS TOMORROW

>>17697965
we're getting it right now, not enough to push futures green

biden is priced in lads, going from p=0.8 to p=0.95 is probably a 0.5% candle in futures

>>17697970
lmao who the fuck does this, even as a kid this kind of shit never occurred to me

>>17697955
>that always means bad news right?
it's mostly speculation that central bankers will inflate currencies to help fight the deflationary vortex. it's a bet that they'll go too far.

>>17695623
>Get the fuck out of Robinhood now
>now
KEK it was too late to get out a week ago

>>17697965
They did a small pump last super tuesday that put Biden in the lead, since then it was pretty much obvious he will ass fuck Sanders so there won't be any more pumps from him winning stuff

>>17697970
I like how the stereotype is just fucking perfect spot on

>Biden wins MI

>>17697222
It's the same guy who made the "maybe this world is another planets hell" with a picture of a dingy Chinese apartment building put through a vhs filter. Cant remember the name. Easy to find if you reverse image search though.

>retards attributing any positive market activity to Biden
Bulls are so fucking desperate lmao

Crude oil price crash timing is ridiculous. Obvious that the (((Bogs))) phoned the Saudis. If that didn't happen, stocks would've been back to normal right now. Somebody's gotta pay for this shitshow!

>>17698020

>>17698048
Imagine being simultaneously white and so god damn stupid you think non-whites want you to share in any kind of prosperity. They fucking hate you.

>>17698044
It's simpler than that anon. MBS and Putin saw an opportunity to put 50% of US O&G out of business. Coincidentally MBS killing off any challengers to his throne and Putin just reset the number of terms he can serve. He wants to beat Stalin's record of 30 years.

Should have doubled down on puts today, it's gonna be a red week if this is all Trump has in mind to stop corona

>>17698089
The only reason today was even green was because people were apparently hopped up on "stimulus hopes" that failed to materialize. Like every financial news outlet was just headlining "STIMULUS HOPES BOOST MARKET" like what fucking stimulus? Where? When? There isn't any? Oh.

>>17698089
You mean the market won't create perfect U's every day with huge starts and equally large drops until the last two hours of the day with a huge rise.

I glad I went UPRO today

When do you guys think that NYC goes under full quarantine like Milan and Venice? Cumo was already deploying the National guard in the state. Also if that happens how much of a haircut are we further expecting?

>>17696954
what language is that?

>>17698146
Probably this weekend. Load up your puts by then.

>>17698146
If NY is actually shut down we will see the worst day in US market history.

>>17698146
Depends, if the Democrats cockblock Trump expect at least -5% and/or consecutive red days until news dictates otherwise

>>17698162
If only options weren't so god damn expensive now

>>17698162
If a put is to be executed Monday, do i sell it Friday?

>>17698162
Any recommendations, I have an options account but never have used it and am afraid to fuck it up.

Also any other stocks or etfs to keep an eye on if this bear market keeps going. At this rate the economy isn't experiencing a 1 2 punch its getting curbstomped by the Wuhflu, man fuck china.

>>17698169
I'm hoping they block all the stimulus plans. I want the Dow to dip below 20k.

>>17698170
Then just buy inverse ETFs

>>17698184
Options execute at the end of the day after close (so Monday close). You should read Investopedia bruh.

What's the difference between pink salt and regular salt?

>>17698194
>Options execute at the end of the day after close (so Monday close). You should read Investopedia bruh.

I think he's asking whether he can still sell before Monday close. The answer is implied in your comment, but not explicitly stated.

>>17698089
Payroll tax cuts are an incentive for people to work more, which only makes spread of the virus worse. The exact opposite is needed, paid sick leave which would incentivize people to stay home when they're sick instead of toughing it out like most burgers tend to do because everyone lives paycheck to paycheck.

I don't think most people realize how badly this plan is gonna blow up

>>17698200
Pink salt is more expensive and probably has more minerals in it than just sodium chloride

>>17698200
Pink is for pussies

>>17698194
Certain options trade into 4:15 like SPY

>>17698200
Almost nothing really.

>>17698215
giving people payroll cuts seems contradictory to what he said he was going to do, which was give people paid time off if they're sick. I really don't think he has any kind of coherent plan, Trump just needed to say something.

>>17698191
I just buy inverse ETFs like SQQQ and SPXU. Theres a ton though, you should look them up.


>>17698200
Pink salt has extra minerals which give the color and is only found in specific locations, no real health difference, just a minor look and taste.

>>17698113
Well. Australia and Japan for one. But Cramer called the moves accurately again today, and said the algos were basically just buying because the yield on the 10year and the price of oil both rallied even if it was just a dead cat bounce.

Why don’t bears get it that markets don’t really move in straight lines? And so many people have been dying for a pullback so they can invest. Everyone knows the market always comes back eventually, so they buy the dip.

>>17698170
Just buy SH if you want to speculate on the market continuing to fall.

Is there something bad about SH that I’m not getting?

>>17698146
>>17698162
>>17698166
We’ve been talking about it for at least a week, you think the market will be shocked by it? There’s a danger of a “short-sell the rumor, buyback the news” situation.

>>17698169
Stimulus doesn't matter. Fed doesn't matter. If the people are not physically exiting their homes and going from Point A (the house) to Point B (the store), the whole house comes crashing down.

The U.S. government revenues are 30% of annual GDP and what is actually available for it to spend on a whim (without printing money) is a fraction of that. We're entering the slide as people realize (a) we're not growing this year and (b) there may actually be economic shrinkage in 2020.

>>17697848
Nice. No effect on futures this evening but that's good for months to come.

>>17698236
>But Cramer called the moves accurately again today

What did he say, exactly? He seems wildly off most of the time. For example his "now is the time to buy" shit last week.

>>17698200
pink salt should be sodium nitrite, used to cure meats. it isn't anymore though. now its just himalayan or some bullshit.

>>17698215
I can't imagine payroll tax cuts doing much of anything for the economy even outside of a crisis scenario.

Honestly how the fuck can biden be winning. America makes no sense

>>17698245
I agree fundamentally it doesn't matter, but the market is looking for any excuse to buy right now.

>>17698215
>Payroll tax cuts are an incentive for people to work more
>most burgers live paycheck to paycheck.

the government isn't here to deal with private employers and how much sick leave they give their employees. The government isn't here to pay for your medical care, your housing or your face mask. What the government can do, is lower the rate it taxes you to help you keep more in your pocket during a crises. I don't get why this is so hard for you to understand.

You guys remember when /smg/ had stock picks instead of 99% doomer posting? Buy Cracker Barrel CBRL

https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>17698200
Himalayan "pink" salt is a fucking retarded meme.

NYC's population density is 400% that of Wuhan.

>>17698236
>And so many people have been dying for a pullback so they can invest.
Obviously, but people are starting to think that we are beyond a mere pullback now, the word "recession" is not too uncommon to hear lately. If people think we are going to retrace to 2015 there is not going to be much buying.

>>17698264
>winning
Winning what?

>>17698284
NYC is amazing, you can hear every language in the world being spoken except English

Futures are sliding again. Some y'all fell for the bull trap lmao.

>>17698279
lmao nice futures bro

>>17698200
Nothing, except the color. It's like asking what's the difference between white rice and red rice when there's nothing unique between the two.

>>17698264
Bernie Sanders' platform is very disturbing to a lot of people. US is not a pro-socialist country. The things he's suggesting run counter to hundreds of years of american politics. The extreme left trying to force it via media saturation will have limited success pushing it with their propaganda. Lots of people in the US are old enough to have seen some of what happened in the USSR, and anyone of any age paying attention to China and North Korea can see communism is not a road you wanna be heading travelling on if you value your way of life.

>>17698277
Went there last week. Eggs were cold; waitress was black. I made a manager watch me sell all my shares on my phone.

>>17698264
That’s American Dems voting. Trump will win both the popular vote and electoral college against Biden. The only difference w/ Sanders would’ve been that Trump only wins the electoral college in 2020

>>17698230
>>17698260
i dont think anyone believes it's a big deal, but it does send a signal to the markets that the government is willing to step in to help. of course they'll use their slingshots at first, but perhaps it will make people believe the bazooka will come out if need be.

>>17698320
>I made a manager watch me sell all my shares on my phone.

>>17698279
>Brazilian Futures up 7.5%

Based Bolsonaro

>>17698320
>I made a manager watch me sell all my shares on my phone.

>>17698314
>maybe we should have universal healthcare like the rest of the developed and semi-developed world
Yeah that's such a fucking radical communist proposal. Americans are absolutely fucking braindead.

Plotting the number of cases in Italy against othwr countries,
Germany/Frabce/Spain now = Italy 9 days ago
United States now = Italy 11 days ago
United Kingdom/Switzerland/Netherlands now = Italy 13 days ago.

>>17698347
I don't feel like paying for the healthcare of obese people, niggers, and obese niggers.

Fuck all of the trash.

>>17698347
Social healthcare is the least of Bernie's platform. Obama ran on it and won. It's not about that.

>>17698277
>You guys remember when /smg/ had stock picks instead of 99% doomer posting?
Lots of newfags this year. 2018 is the best year for /smg/

>>17698347
Universal healthcare is slavery to the state. We are not like the europoors as long as there is blood in our veins and air in our lungs we are still freemen. Till we are overrun by the tacos.

>>17698367
Exactly. Anyone promoting paying more taxes so degenerates and illegals can get free healthcare has to be beyond retarded

>>17698347
The reason why socialized healthcare wouldn't work well in the US is mostly because what >>17698367 said.

>>17698347
foreigners dont understand that we have medicaid for the poors and subsidies for others who are slightly above poor. where are you from anyways

>Soon...

corona shit has me scared, i've got about $7k in the markets now and i think i'm pulling everything out tomorrow. how retarded of an idea is that?

How did Bernie think he could win? Imagine going up to poor black people and telling them 'vote for me so middle-class whites can get free college'.

>>17698347
>insane tax increases and profligate welfare for the undeserving

You're braindead. Luckily, voters aren't, and Bernie is done. Tonight is effectively the end of his career.

>>17698314
How come people in the United States think Sander's plan is socialist? In my eyes his plans are simply making a country capable of performing the most basic function

>>17698351
Germany, France and Spain have similiar numbers to Italy but they have been hiding them by doing less testing, when shit hits the fan expect them to shut down all at once.

Rate

>>17698403
Those Europeans also forget that the only reason why they can afford their welfare systems is because we basically also pay for their defense budget too given the deployment of troops and equipment to those countries.

>>17698415
depends on what you have. 7k in bluechips, just leave them and average down every 5% drop. 7k in trash? pull out now.

>>17698428

Should've bought the $0 puts.

>>17698252
Well he didn’t say the close would be higher than the open...

I wonder if the 10-year or oil price had similar moves today?

Also he said START buying, SLOWLY and I did. Pretty satisfied with my new SCHX, VIG, and ABBV positions. But it wasn’t the bottom, no sir.

>>17698338
they even got corona-chan there yet?

>>17698217
>>17698219
>>17698228
>>17698234
>>17698279
>>17698312

I wish you guys were as helpful with investing as you are with minuscule dumb bullshit

>>17698424
Their rate of growth aren't that much different from Italy. It took Italy 8 days to grow from above 100 to just short of 2000 cases, for Spain it's 9 days, for Germany it's 10 days and France 11 days.

>>17698351
why specifically did Italy get his so hard compared to other countries though, and so early too?

>>17698445
NEW THREAD

>>17698422
enjoy making half of what US citizens make for their profession

>>17698320
Best post

>>17698432
mostly safe shit like apple and amazon

>>17698469
We are full of chinks

>>17698469
Probably because some super spreaders who have been to Milan. I briefly recall a Chinese tourist from Wuham travelled to Italy despite being and only get diagnosed at Slovenia or Slovakia, that could be a potential source of infection

>>17698488
you're fine with aapl and amzn

Why are people buying at these prices if NYC is guaranteed to explode from COVID-19, and markets will crash when it does? Are they stupid?

>>17698596
Because its complicated.

>>17698596
Probably being priced in already
And if you don’t watch the markets regularly, buying into a 15% crash is a good bet if you’re concerned about getting money into the market and leaving it there for the next 10+ years

>>17698664
no one wants to admit defeat, they all addicted to this game and its gonna get real bad, If dow reaches 18,000 and bataids is semi contained.. good testing/treatment we can start to recover

>>17696448
Rich people are not moving away from one of the most sublime climates and beautiful places on earth to go live in a disgusting sweaty armpit

>>17698272
And having slightly more in your pocket isn't going to do jack shit. People who are actually at risk and can't afford vacations will literally get maybe $1000 a year from a payroll cut. And the government already pays for the medical care of people too poor to stop working. Literally the stupidest solution to a crisis possible, especially since how fucking retarded people are during a crisis and won't ever spend their money properly anyways (if they even save it).