/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17652900
it's fucking over
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/stock-futures-fell-fast-enough-to-trigger-a-halt-2020-03-08

who here ez money?

FIRST FOR FUCK TRIPFAGS

I HAVE WORK TOMORROW AND I CAN'T SLEEP. IT'S ALREADY 1 AM

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

https://youtu.be/88s-CBUBEa0

how can one with no investments yet profit from this?

Imagine believing that a pandemic is good for the economy and stocks

>>17652937
Save your money until April and start averaging in

>>17652900
Anyone else have opk calls?

>>17652933
Same, hopefully Mr. Noseberg doesn't ask me to do anything challenging

>bulls considering suicide
>bears enjoying every moment of it
what will the world look like in 5 years?

>BUY GUNS BULLETS AND WATER

>>17652937
buying food, water, guns, ammuntion, gold, silver, iodine and toilet paper in that order.

>>17652940
>I bought SSO and DBPG. Wut do?
The present meltdown is over a virus. A pretty nasty one admittedly but still, a virus. Zoom out to 2008. The entire economy in complete meltdown, huge investment banks Bear Sterns and Lehman obliterated. Families losing their homes, unemployment skyrocketing, a bearmarket that lasted years. And yet SSO and DBPG came through and best the market by 2x rewarding its holders. It did it then and it'll do it now. You don't even need to have faith, just zoom out, look at the chart, compare the circumstances and relax. If things get significantly "worse", see it for the gift it is and buy more. Imagine if you had bought DBPG at the bottom of the Great Financial Crisis. You would be rich as fuck right now. Maybe this is our do-over. If you sell or quit buying you will regret. That much I know for sure.

>>17652937
If you don't have an account with a broker yet, that's the first step. In this crisis, it will take about 3 days before you get to start playing.

will gold go up at least, or will it be like the corona crash a week ago where everyting went down

what are some good related books. Not looking for "get rich quick" or "investment strategy" but more like stories and history stuff.

especially about economics before 1900

>>17652953

APRIL'S GOING TO BE TOO LATE

YOU JUST WANT THE GOOD STOCK FOR YOURSELF

>>17652922
baste

>>17653001
Impossible to say
Even after 9/11 anyone know how long the spike lasted?

>>17652933
I'm temporarily unemeployed and have loaded up on coffee. Will be staying up all night and into the morning to watch it all burn.

>>17652937
keep saving til summer and put it into any brand thats gotten BTFO by then

Disney, Any Airline, Sport/Entertainment stock, and short the shit out of any phama company thats gained 200+ % in the hysteria

>>17652984
>>17652940

Thanks. I wont sell but will quit buying. At least until we drop another 5-10%

>>17653009
Mein Kampf

>>17653009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTPHPL4j-Hw&list=PLu7X6TYzMkTHP0tds-SA_3J3pUYGEZYmY

This is one of the GOATs if you haven't read it yet.

>>17653027
Fair enough

>>17652922
Ill bend you over let me know when

>>17652993
i have a robinhood account set up, but i guess that doesnt mean much as if things get crazy they wont allow you to sell or buy anyways

>>17652900
Every leg down in the deflation of this massive bubble is like a sigh of relief.

>>17653001
Sudden spikes in volatility = institutional funds have to sell something to maintain their margins and remain solvent. That's what happened 2 weeks ago and it looks like it will happen now.

My maple bucks are going to lose so much value due to the oil drop. It's going to fuck up my commissioning of hentai.

>>17652984
Imagine carrying confirmation bias across from irrational stocks to the cold hard reality of social unrest and negative trade impacts to 90% of all businesses in the world.

"Hurr, just look at the charts" yeah alright, go back to the great depression and multiply by the Spanish flu. If you have just the right amount of unhealthy trading tunnel vision you might be able to make out a trend you can lose all your money on.

>>17652900
I just received my first credit card yesterday. What should I do with it?

Oof. INO to go up another 45%.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how bad are you personally expecting it to be when the markets open and why?

>>17652984
You're assuming this doesn't pop then pension bubble or have any other knock-on effects in distressed debt. If BBBs start getting downgraded because of lack of consume demand over the virus, things can spiral out of control very quickly. The Fed has to go full, all out print mode to keep ahead of the repocalyspe.

BrightGene has crashed in Shanghai. I don't think $GILD will make it, bros. Similar pharmaceuticals stocks down in Japan. I don't think I'm going to make it. Fuck.

>>17653079
Use it for everyday purchases for 2% cash back and pay the full balance every month.

>>17653079
Spend around 30% of your line per month and always pay it off.

>>17653090
This bad

>>17653079
Buy whores and cocaine

>>17653090
5
Daddy Fed will either cut rates or start pumping the shit out of things

>>17653079
Max it out with a cash advance & put it all on spy

>>17653025
thank you for your reply brother.

>>17653079
max it out and only pay off the minimums

Thanks to the person who said I would be glad I sold all my ETSY and went all cash.

Have one of my favorite pics.

>>17653062
Don't use Robinhood. It's run by exit scamming pajeets. Use TDA, Fidelity or Schwab. None of them charge commission fees anymore.

>>17653090
If you had asked the same question about oil before the weekend and someone said a "10", they'd still be wrong because what's happening right now is somewhere around a 20. It's unprecedented. No one knows what the fuck is going to happen.

>>17653027
stop listening to "just a flu bro" retards
there is a bubble so fragile that a flu will pop it
that's what you're up against. it's not the virus, this entire market is a mass delusion

I need some actual advice.

I bought SPY puts on Friday right before close. Is there any way to gauge how much these will be worth at open? I want to set a limit sell before going to sleep because I think SPY will have a bump up at some point on Monday, but I'm not sure where to put it right now.

>>17653090
Bloodbath with breakers being hit on all indexes

Suddenly feeling pretty bad about going all in on gold miners

>>17653116
the interface is so comfy tho

>>17653090
I have three oil companies in my portfolio, so the damage is probably already done.

>>17653090
Some stocks on the ASX went down 30% today. I'd imagine most of your stocks are gunna be hit 15-20+%

>>17653136
>I bought SPY puts on Friday
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT YOU PIECE OF SHIT

So if this actually carries on through the whole week and maybe even next week, I wouldn't be surprised if we get new regulations on derivatives trading. Who knows, maybe it's just today right guys? Maybe the 10Y won't go below 0.4%? Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Can someone give me some of those Kino stock/trading/finance/economic YouTubes
maybe about 2008?

it cant actually be this easy can it?

I made a 2k put on airlines
Am I going to lose money because of low oil prices or make money off of black Monday? Please I can’t sleep

Any idea where to short fucking stocks for non USA citizen? Any decent broker? ._.

>>17652984
2008-2009 crisis did not include refugee crisis. look up what's going on at Greek-Turk border. yuropeons are absolutely sick of immigrants, and so are americunts and aussies. it's fucking habbening. this whole virus shit is habbening because there's too many chinks everywhere.

>>17653104
Both will be happening by the end of the week.

Fed has been pumping via the repo market for months now. I suspect a 75bps drop this week. It will STILL be a hellion of a week. Average people are scared and are cancelling most of everything until this blows over. This is causing a feedback loop of pessimism

>>17652937
Never listen to anyone who uses the phrase "average in." Those people do not understand stocks. Save your money until the bleeding stops. Dont go in at the first sign of increase. Its better to belate and leave some earnings on the table than to be early and be completely fucking wrong. Look for quality businesses that were affected by the crash but are still good businesses and put as much money as you can afford into those stocka. You could be setting yourself up for life

S&P500 and NASDAQ FUTURES HALTED AGAIN
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>S&P500 and NASDAQ FUTURES HALTED AGAIN

>>17653150
>PRETTY COLORS EASY TO USE NO EFFORT FOR ME GRUG ZOOMER BRAIN

You're never going to make it lad.

>>17653174
Marry me, you’ll get citizenship.

>>17653150
Its not worth it. If you're not a complete retard you can learn how to use any UI.

>it is that easy

Never been a better time to get into SCI. Just sayin

>>17653171
I expect heavy support at 2750, but if momentum is high enough, it might just power through. We'll see.

>>17653172
honestly probably gonna make money as absolutely everyone is more just going to be reacting to the whole market tanking from various sources.
they'll dump absolutely anything with even the smallest exposure to coronachan, including airlines, and anything with a red candle on it, including airlines.
you'll be fine.

>>17653162
The 10Y and 30Y are the craziest fucking things I have seen in 10+ years of investing.

>DAX Futures pushing 10k

I don't know much about index funds, are they really that difference? I have some in SPY and some in VOO. I want to ask for recommendations but I don't know if it matters.

>>17653197
Have you seen the charts and options interface on both the schwab site and mobile app?

In Australia, all diagnostics and respiratory care stocks rose. I hope this is good news for $GILD.

>>17653231
The patrician choice is TD Ameritrade lad. You should make the switch.

>>17652900
SHOULD I BUY 3X BEAR ETFs TOMORROW IN PREMARKET?

TELL ME YES OR NO.

I WANT TO MAKE A LOT OF FUCKING MONEY TOMORROW.

DO
I
BUY
3X
BEAR
MARKET
ETFS?

>>17653225
>10+ years of investing
oh so you've only been investing in the longest and biggest bull run in history? thank you for exposing yourself so fully

>>17653216
We are going to AT LEAST 2700

Guys, check vixcentral
We're going up

>>17653225
what would be normal, healthy 10Y, 20Y and 30Y yields?

>>17653251
I may open it tomorrow. But I don’t live the TOS app. Should probs check out Etrade too.

>>17653161
Don't blame me fren. I'm still mostly in stocks, I was just trying to hedge my investments

>>17653259
>actually going for 50
incredible, yesterday that was but a theoretical

>>17653188
thank you for your wisdom

>>17653153
>>17653153
>>17653153
Be very, very careful with your money anons.

>>17653221
>>17653258
Dow to 24000

>>17652900
So, rate cut this week you think? Maybe a good time to refinance my student loans again?

>>17652915
you are like little babby

>>17653136
Hold em. This market is dropping and dripping fast over the next month

>>17653254
A million times no. We haven't even hit the bottom yet.

>>17653255
Do you have a link to this piece?

>>17653254
yes but be prepared to hold them through a bounce before we drill

>>17653216
>>17653171
>all we had to do was draw a line

>>17653222
Alright that makes sense.
Thanks, good night anon.

>>17653113
nice pic I like it

>>17653296

>>17652915
I ez money, but GME is probably fucked now, they were lottos anyways

VIX could easily hit 60 this week. It's touched 50 a few times after 2009. We're going to start hearing stories of people getting liquidated for billions and getting dragged out of trading pits. Maybe I'm wrong though and things go back to normal :)

Help be brainstorm anons. What events could be the bottom? The bottom will occur long before the virus has run its course and probably before the virus reaches its peak.

Some events that I think might bring about a bottom:
>cancellation of the olympics
>737 max fix rejected
>trump gets coronavirus
>closure of disneyland parks

>>17653073
What you're saying is orthogonal to what I wrote. I'm saying the price will in the future be higher than it is today so buy DBPG or SSO and ride the gains. Doesn't matter if Coronavirus is worse than the Great Depression it still won't last forever. I don't think it will be anywhere near that bad but if it is there's still not a good reason to just throw your hands up. You seem to think this is the end of financial history. It isn't.
>>17653095
And if they do? Do the best you can cuz if everything goes completely to hell it won't matter anyway.
>>17653179
If things are that bad then eventually they should get better right? Better to be in position during the bad times so you can best take advantage of the good times.

The bottom line is this. In the long term the market will be higher than it is right now. In the short/medium term the price will go up and down. When it's down, buy more. This has worked for 200 years and if it stops working now there isn't a damn thing you can do about it anyway so you might as well at least try to make something out of present circumstances.

>>17653340
This is going to erase all of the gains made in the last 4 years. The same gains that Trump credits himself with creating. Trumps legacy is literally being erased.

>>17653352
world war 3, the middle east, europe, and USA vs China and russia

>>17653107
Give me a QRD on SPY. I know fuckall about stocks

>ASX DOWN 8%
>ASX DOWN 8%
>ASX DOWN 8%

>>17653352
Bernie Sanders wins the nomination and a stock certificate is as good as toilet paper.

>>17653352
>Some events that I think might bring about a bottom:
I man up and buy puts

>>17653216
Is it even possible for the DOW to drop to 750?

>>17653255
Not my fault this bullrun has lasted so long.
Ive been in 90% cash assets for a year now. Lost everything in 2009 btw so I understand fully what is coming.
>>17653263
Depends how far we look back.

3.5, 4 and 4.5 percent seem ok to me but it depends on inflation. Currently real returns are all waaaay negative on bonds

>>17653352
If it wasn't for the virus and this was a generic sell off tomorrow would be the bottom. OPEC and Russia price war is arguably the driving factor for the futures sell off right now on top of all the virus anxiety.
My opinion is that the bottom will be either after a major US city is quarantined or when US confirmed cases per day reaches its maximum.

>>17653394
no but 24000 is probable and 22000 is possible and would be the absolute bottom

>>17653371
Nobody is on Chinas side my dude. Russia's "alliance" is purely strategic.

>>17653371
Okay I was looking for events that have >0% chance of actually happening

>Sony down 7,2%
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HELP ME ABESAN!!!

>>17653340
Shit... I’m on the wrong side of this trade. She’s do I DCA down on svxy?>>17653235
>respiratory Care stocks

QUICK SOMEONE
DO WE HAVE ANY OF THISE IN THE US

I'm singin' in the rain
Just singin' in the rain
What a glorious feeling
And I'm happy again.
I'm laughing at clouds
So dark, up above
The sun's in my heart
And I'm ready for love.

Let the stormy clouds chase.
Everyone from the place
Come on with the rain
I have a smile on my face.
I'll walk down the lane
With a happy refrain
Just singin', singin' in the rain.

Dancing in the rain.
I'm happy again.
I'm singin' and dancin' in the rain.
Dancin' and singin' in the rain.

>>17653384
Yes, Bernie winning the dem nomination is a possibility. Fuck I don’t think the market could take that right now

I will go to the supermarket when they open in 28 minutes. They have already introduced rationing and announced it on national TV news.

This is literally the end of the world

>>17653440
MMM

First indices in Europe open in 1 bong 27 bings, people's fear is palpable right now :D

So whats the game plan for tomorrow? Do we just sit on the cash that we have or buy overused ETFs and stocks in the premarket? Also does anyone have an idea how to play the recent oil fiasco with saudis Arabia and the fact that europe might get wrecked by oil prices, deutche banks collapse, and migrants infected with coronavirus.

>>17653409
>absolute bottom
you're in for a wild ride

Threadly.

Remdesivir needs to be given very early in an infection for real efficacy. Gilead might moon, depending on how much they bullshit their findings, but no Boomer will be saved. Day of the Pillow is still on. This is true of ALL antivirals, not just Gilead's.

Regeneron is developing monoclonal antibody therapy, not antiviral. Should be more effective, but given Corona-chan's incubation period it might not be all that effective in the cohorts it will actually be used on (hospitalizations). Should also take ~6m before it's ready to test. Fingers crossed it either won't work in advanced cases or it won't be ready during next year's cold and flu season, which is when we should see peak boomercide

>>17653449
No it fucking isn’t
If it were just a mask company I might be interested. This is going to obliterate them.

>>17653444
>Trips
>MmmmmmmmuuuuuuuHmmmmmmm(((f jws))) id

Could I BE more based?!
>no

So what do I invest in once everything crashes? I've never invested in stocks

>>17653462
Bring it on I have 20 acres and a cabin in the woods 100% willing to take me and my gf and become amish lmao

>>17653379
Is this bad for New Zealand or should we celebrate the Aussies getting fucked?

>>17653371
as much as russia and the west hate each other, Russia would become allies with the west before becoming allies with china in a war

The bottom is when they limit shorts selling

>>17653404
NYC quarantine would do it. I just don’t see the US gov going full Wuhan style though

>>17653456
damn I wanna stay up but I also wanna sleep

>>17653457
cash cash
felling longish on oil longterm, it might get fucked more but it probably won't be under 28 for very long

>>17653457
Short VIX at 60 and pray to God because stocks won't matter if it goes above that

You guys just don't get it. 99% of the listed companies are about to declare bankruptcy.

THERE IS NO BOTTOM

I have SPY 290P Mar 20
SPY 290P Mar 31
SPY 302P Jul 17

SPY 290C Mar 20
SPY 302C Jul 17

Should I sell all puts and Mar 20 call at open? Hold the long dated Jul calls?

>>17653489
should we just have a china vs world war?

>>17653481
KO

>>17653457
I liq my puts when SPY hits 270. Rebuy on Fri

NO BALLS

Hi I mostly trade crypto currency on coinbase.com (I use coinbase PRO, to avoid fees lol)

/smg/ how bad is it? My linkies are still pretty stinky. I mean, down a touch from ATH but we're in good shape. What are stonks in for? I don't pay attention to Boomer shit. Thanks.

>>17653477
just buy MMM, sweet cheeks

>>17653476
Regardless of how long it takes for regn drug to hit the market is it likely to get pumped especially by Trump?

>>17653500
VIX spreads are fucking insane, they are so hard to buy and sell at a reasonable price.

>>17653502
KO, MCD, LMT, MMM will not lmao

>>17653508
this

>>17653352
Bernie winning will bring it waaay down
Depending on death count for this virus but if it ends up at 30 million+ that would bring it way down.
Russia invades SA with syria and takes control of nearly all the planets oil could cause a major collapse
North korea nuking anything
war between india and pakistan could cause a bottoming out too
collapse of the EU
EBOLA spreading to china/india
announcement of aliens

ect

>>17653476
Also reminder that a lot of good people are gonna die because of this and if the economic fallout is as bad as they say, a lot of good women are gonna be forced to do some pretty vile things

>>17653516
pixel coins will do nothing once people need every cent for rice and beans

>>17653447
>not having a stockpile of food and water

>>17652900

why are you people talking about bottoms?

us is not testing people for all we know it can be a italy situation

italy is out of control btw, the amount of people going there and bringing corona to other countries is ridiculous

in brazil there s 20 ish people with it and ALL of them stayed in italy

bottom will be us outbreak

I have a lot of puts.
I'm up 10k today.
I'm probably going to be up 10k every day for the next 3 weeks

>>17653446
Biden isn't really running on an economic message so this could fuck him hard. He's going on about civility and decency, but when the chips are down everyone is worried about benefits and healthcare.

>>17653516
Quick followup, what does pic related mean?

What are some companies that provide conference call services?

>>17653447
Where are you from

>>17653447
Where?

>>17653526
These are a few of the only stocks I am not selling.

>>17653481
Ko JNJ cost pep MSFT AMZN aapl BRKA CLX

>>17653498
>damn I wanna stay up but I also wanna sleep
I'm luckily situated in EU, currently enjoying a nice cuppa coffee, reading pre-market and watching analysts freak out lol

>>17653508
>>17653528
I dont know what KO is

>>17653440
howbout KMB

>>17653516
>i don't pay attention to boomer shit
you hold crypto while stonks are in record volatility.
you're a boomer unironically.

I'm ready for a crab decade.

>>17653565
I’m selling MCD after this starbucks fiasco

No food and drink establishment is safe.

>>17653575

Anyone in cryptos needs to get out. Now.

I might go for a cruise guys
>the prices are looking good

>>17653563

Reads like UK.

>>17653598
why would cryptos crash?

>>17653598
Bullish

>>17653575
Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://nhentai.net/tag/inflation/
if youre that new you need to start here

>>17653540
hot

>>17653553
we're all tops here, so we spend lots of time thinking about bottoms

>>17653598

>>17653598
>whales creating panic
Uhhh no. I learned my lesson.

>>17653601

so this is the famous when people sell, buy? might go as well

>>17653598
I legged it a week ago cos I saw no reason why crypto would be doing any good than the stock market.

Good news: gas is gonna be super cheap
Bad news: we won't be able to afford cars

what will div boomer do when dividends start getting slashed

>>17653613
Margin calls

>>17653628
Your gay ass bitcorn "safe haven" is dropping like a brick same as spy500

GIMME SOME OF THOSE KINO YOUTUBES YOU FUCKS ARE ALWAYS POSTING

GFC
DALIO
MUNGER
GRAHAM
MALKIEL

SOMETHING TO PASS THE TIME ON THIS LONG ASS DRIVE

>>17653581
Don’t know they’re not on my radar.

>>17653552

I already prepared weeks ago, this is my final opportunity before stampede of panic buying this afternoon

>>17653562
>>17653563

UK

>>17653540
Feminism is only feasible during peacetime. Any other time, they will be reduced to their natural role: cum receptacles for strong men, bearer of children and spoils of war.

>S&P/ASX 200 is now frozen

>Since S&P is circuit breaker'd for any trades that go lower, it just stays fucking glued to the floor
>minimal excursions back up to the -4.5% range, as would be expected if it was regular trading with a clip applied
>just stays glued to the minimum possible price

I'm under the impression that greater losses are expected for mid-caps than large-caps since the russell 2000 is particularly inactive, but the Boomer DJIA is still wandering around at a smaller loss

Also, what's this fucking guy on about?
>>17653420
>ITS ACCELERATING >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>17653506
Lol if your paying attention to geopolitics at all it will be the world vs America. China works with other countries, america makes demands and threatens when they dont get what they want. Trumps eu trade war has forced the eu into russia and chinas arms and gotten them forming an eu army as nato dies.

>>17653666
a combination of dalio's and grahams investing philosophies brought me to this portfolio. I am up on the month, quarter, year, week
tomorrow I will be green too.

>>17653502
That's dumb and ur dumb. Lots of companies have survived through the 70's shit, 87, dot com, 08 etc. They will survive this.

>>17653657
So is silver. Store of value lmao.

>>17653655
I have a low appetite for risk. do people actually buy crypto on margin? jesus christ

>>17652900
I AM 100% IN CASH RIGHT NOW... WHAT DO I BUY TO MAKE THE MOST MONEY THIS WEEK? GOLD? BEAR FUNDS? TELL ME, O SAGES OF /biz/.

>>17653710
Ok
Give me the YouTubes

>>17653686

It's coming this week for sure. As soon as the boomers get wind of the stock market crash and the +200 cases. Post 4pm when they finish work.

>>17653598
I'm glad people finally understand that crypto will always be seen as a high-risk investment and it will behave accordingly. People is getting really risk-adverse right now. Thus, crypto is shitting the bed.

>>17653575
Coca Cola Company of caffeinated sugar water.

>>17653657
they are raising funds to invest in other assets.

>>17653666
in addition to >>17653710
https://m1.finance/H7pdR0rDP95s

>>17653718
only retards buy silver, gold only

>>17653529
you realize Ven has more oil than SA right?

They keep saying Italy is getting fucking desrtroyed economically. What does that mean for a first worlder american like me?

>>17653724
calls on GLD
puts on SPY

>>17653757
it means if you short them you make money

>>17653733

I have been persuading boomers to prepare for weeks. I even offered my family free tinned food last week but they refused because "prepping is stupid" and "the government wont let the supermarkets run out of things"

>>17653724
this might be controversial but have you considered buying the SP500?

>>17653724
there are several companies with ex dividend dates this week. buy one of those

>>17653136
what the fuck
have you looked at futures
you fool you may be rich you absolute idiot

>>17653757
Mama mia, pasta $20 a box!

>>17653724
I think you should wait and see for a little while. Jumping in blind right now, on anything, is a good way to get blown out as things jerk back and forth all crazy.

>>17653757
It doesn't matter if Italy goes under, we already know how to make pizza.

How strong is the guarantee for boomer pensions? Say the market gets slaughtered worse than 2008. Whoever pays the pensions out, is it a realistic scenario for them to say "sorry, there's just no way, we're cutting back/outright canceling everything"?

>>17653719
He's saying people will sell crypto to meet stock and futures margin calls

>>17653757
it just means "don't go on vacation to Italy for the next few months"
invest in American pasta companies (KHC, etc.)

why

>>17653757
Get ready to go to war with the first guy to copy Mussolini and make Italy the world power it is meant to be, fascism is the only way Italy is a strong horse but only under the firm reins of a Caesar not a Prime Ministers loose yoke.

>>17653446
Bernie isn't winning shit lmao

>>17653808
i am unironically hoping that corona-chan genocides all of the boomers

>>17653765
I bought puts

Italy only down 3.5% right now. Meanwhile my Sony and Nintendo position…

>>17653802
This. We’re just getting started. If you really have the urge to buy tomorrow either go outside or buy slowly.

>>17653808
They have done that in Dallas. What most unionized gov workers don't understand is their govenments have unfunded pension liabilities which means they are one bad revenue year away from being out of luck.

someone please convince me to sell my puts tomorrow

>>17653830
Market has to do this from time to time. Its an enduring truth of history. Fortunately the amount of money you can make on normally very slow moving stuff is huge when the recovery comes around. Opportunity of a decade.

>>17653808
Expect pension funds to be on the sell side in stocks, buy side on puts and long in national debt. Many Bill Bobs, Cletuses and Janices will see their pension value go down drastically though lol

>>17653745
yes but socialism is a worse disease than Islamism

>>17653808
I wish. The govt would rather bankrupt themselves 10x than let the old farts lose their pensions. Just look at what's happening in Illinois due to the massive pension deficit they are running.

>>17653846
Why would you not sell those off? Are you retarded?

its ok
everyone just took profits
were not going any lower

>>17653780

If you'd told normies a month ago things would be like this they wouldn't have believed you. This makes hard deal deal brexit look like childsplay.

How affected will a pension fund be? My dad died yesterday and he hadnt touched his pension but it was close to maturity anyway. Surely it would have all been moved to bonds and low risk assets by now?

>>17653719
No, not margin on crypto. Margin on stocks and commodities. They will sell EVERYTHING to cover the margin

>>17653254
I have orders in place for SQQQ once trading resumes, already holding positions in SH and PSQ, like the other anon said I'm ready to hold through a bounce too

>>17653782
>>17653783
>>17653802
*whispers into headset*
Damn... These guys are good.
*scribbles notes on paper*

BrightGene in Shanghai has swung from losing 10% of its value to gaining 2% perhaps that's good news for my $GILD calls. Once the Jews review how well coronavirus-related stocks performed in ASX and SSE they'll understand not to dump $GILD.

I hope it jumps as a COVID-2019 safe haven.

>>17653830
because the beginning of 2020 was fucking insane. Valuations totally out of control. A fucking space company that doesn’t even get people to LEO mooning. Startup mattress companies ringing the opening bell. We were due.

>>17653887
I didn’t want to buy high sell low!

I let some anon talk me out of it... something about not trying to time it selling at a loss if I’ll just buy back in higher later... I might be a retard

r8 my fanfiction

>market continues to tank going into election
>orange man loses because of this
>orange cult starts rioting and threatens secession, leading to civil war 2
>while the us is weakened, russia or china attack to secure dominance
>starts world war 3
>meanwhile corona continues to kill and mutate and ultimately trims 80% of the population
>all the zombie/post apocalyptic fiction you've enjoyed becomes reality

>>17653904
Oh okay that makes more sense

>>17653900
Lmao no, many pension funds run very risky strats

>>17653834
Italians aren't Romans
Mussolini couldn't make them Romans
They are genetically inferior, it doesn't matter who their leader is
All they have is a bunch of art and buildings from the glory days when the people who lived in Italy were genetically superior. They're children living in the house of other parents

>>17653920
>Startup mattress companies ringing the opening bell

My question is how the FUCK do mattress companies always make so much money. Look up how many mattress firms are near you

>>17653941

He was literally a few months from drawing down on it though

>>17653910
>gentleman pepe in a fucking hazmat suit
What a perfect archetype for /biz/ in the modern era, LMAO

>mfw i have no more money to buy shorts unless i sell long term dividend friends

>doesnt matter, i'll probably oversleep tomorrow since i dont "need" to be awake until 1pm

Should I DCA into intel? It seems criminally undervalued at a PE of 11 while it has double digit growth and Jim Keller working there now.

>>17653938
This will help orange man

He has been saying for like 5 years now that china is fuckstarting the US because they make everything, This collpase will work into his populist movement more than anything previous

I really hoping for a world wide societal collapse after this is all said and done. We need a culling. We need to make the Georgia Guidestones a reality. Crypto NEETs need to be wiped out. All hail SATAN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvdBrF5qaww

post yfw Dow is actually up 1200+ by eod

>>17653992
Intel is fucked for the next few years. They just said their 10nm is going to be worse than their 22nm process and they wont have 7nm for a few years. TSMC is moving to 5nm soon...
Monolithic dies is not the way of the future.

>>17653970
It’s not because they make a lot of money

There was a planet money episode about it, check it out.

>>17653992
dios
mio
those tits

>>17653352
>events that cause bottom
Government takes wuhan level action
Or
Coronavirus causes mass hospitalization and the collapse of the medical system for 1-2 months

>>17654017
IT'S ALL SO TIRESOME

>>17654013
>mfw the older I get, the more I know this feel.

>>17654017
no one is this dumb right?

>>17654017
just as planned

>>17653992
these tits are fake right? Can i buy my gf tits like this off of spy puts?

>>17654026
Fake as fuck
Stapled to her ribcage

Aesthetic

>>17652900
Should i start investing in silver now or is this just the beginning of the crash?

>>17653617
I've taken macro/micro I've just never dabbled in stocks

>>17654048
so I can buy my gf tits like this?

>>17654026
I was banging a chick that was built just like this a few months back. Was a total babe but had to take care of her sick mother and could not give me the undivided attention I require. Had to call it quits. A damn shame to be honest.

>>17654057
watch shkreli finance videos

>>17654055
>being late to the party everythime
never change /biz/

>>17654060
should have married her and poisoned the mother. you get to be her rock and you get the inheritence

>>17654019
That may be true but even if AMD’s processors were a thousand times faster they can’t replace intels marketshare simply because they cannot manufacture them fast enough. And still intel’s 10000 series seems like it will be competitive with AMD. I’m hoping management is less retarded now that they’re hiring Jim Keller, but really I have no idea.

>>17654026
smoothbrained

>>17654043
you can just buy a new gf if you do it right

>>17654079
or just marry the mother, makes the sex with his old gf kinkier, and inheritance doesnt get split between you and her anymore, its all yours

>>17654079
Given how loyal she was to her her family, she would have made great wife material. Would have honestly thought about marrying if things continued to grow so well. If she comes crawling back, I think it means that her mom died.

>>17654102
Dios mio that exogenous male androgynizing hormone.

>>17653090
This is going to be armageddon, all actual human trading and decision making is in giga-panic.

>>17654130

>>17654005
if your sights are set any lower than full fledged luciferian illuminati 1488 super villain than i really don't know what to say

>>17654102
>inheritance doesnt get split between you and her anymore, its all yours

Based

nikkei actually closed at the higher end of its range today
only down -5.38% lmao

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/anxiety-aging-congress-spreads-along-coronavirus-n1152851

Oh nonononononono

>>17653568
Would it be best to pick one of these and buy a few shares, or various shares of multiple?

>>17654143
Yes.

Should I buy all of my SOXS back on the open? There is no way stocks are gonna close higher than the open, right?

>>17654102
this is peak female for me, granted i am over 6 foot and I work out
everyone has their ideals

>>17654162
Kinda move ud make to buy last second to prep for the rebound later in bigger markets. Maximize profits.

bull strong

>>17654173
I dunno I get greedy and overdiversify

The question was after this all plays out though

>>17654062
Thx.

>>17652922
Based

>>17654192
my favorite kind of women is one with my dick inside of her

tomorrow should be fun

>>17654173

>>17654192
A girl with a big bulge is your peak?

It's over for the Canadian dollar. I'm fucked.

>>17654062
Nigga I keep asking for finance YouTube videos.

I know some of you post some that I always forget about

>>17654203
I live on a very limited budget from VA pension, expendable income every month is around 1200.

>>17654214
(((CNBC)))

>>17654231
she needs the padding for the pounding I would give her lmao

>>17654170
congress being sick/dying is bullish actually

>>17654234
institute of trading (their podcast and content is very good and from real pros not snakeoils)
skhreli
otherwise watch long interviews of best people

>>17653172
Anon futures keep being halted because it's dropping so fast, I think you're going to make some skrilla tomorrow

>>17654102
I'm telling myself I'll remember the name carriejune Anne bowlby tomorrow but I know I won't

>>17654170
>>17654143
>>17654254

I am now on the side of the global elite. The guys who give orders to the CEO and politician cattle class. HAIL SATAN

guys tlt trading at 177 pre market
holy fuck I am actually going to be green tomorrow.

>>17654280
if the chinks take Ted from us, I don't know what I'll do

So I know everyone's just like 'wait and buy the bottom' but shouldn't I be saving up in case I lose my job? Once I've lost it how will I have the money to invest? The job market is going to be absolute trash. Will they at least fire all the foreign workers and send them back or will I be fist fighting them for a chance to work at McDonald's next month?

>>17654230
I'm on a limited budget of around 1200 a month for expendable income. Are portfolios even applicable or do I need to save some $$$ first?

>>17654213
1-3 ONLY

>>17654284
But why

>market crashing and halting before even opening

jesus fucking christ

FUCKING

BIBLICAL

>>17654317
will it keep crashing more or this is the lowest point?

>wake up
>futures worsened
brokers will definitely take a shit won't they?

>>17654310
2, 4, 8, 11, 13, 14, and 15

>>17654038
The only dumb people here are the one’s who don’t think Dow hits 27800 by the end of this week and 31K by end Q2

>>17654306
You don't have to be diversified intantly, you can just build it over time

>>17654231
>Not going all in on fat puss gfs
Ngmi

>>17654317

>Saudi Arabia
>i'm killing this market with no survivors

>oil and virus
holy fuck i may actually make money

>>17653009
Reminiscings of a Stock Operator is a fucking awesome book.

It's both a story, history, and shows how a real life trader made money in the market of old.

Every great trader has read it.

>>17654385
PLANES AREN'T THE ONLY THINGS THEY LOVE CRASHING.

>>17654297
Actually people are saying BUY in whenever you can as consistently as you can
The reason being timing the market won't exceed the money lost from having your money in cash

>>17654392
is silver going down even more or should i go for it frens?

>>17654385
economic warfare is based, bet there is some crazy behind the scenes behind it related to Iran, Syria, and other events.

>>17654419
silver is a fucking literal meme.

Daily reminder it's just numbers on a screen.

Numbers that can buy food. And porn.

>>17654426
in a race to the bottom, only one can remain

>>17654254
this
"Senators are pics and should be slaughtered as such"-ancient (imperial) roman proverb


>>17654280
Faith in Jesus is the only winning play

>>17654310
no, 6, 9, or 16 are top

1-3 is pedo tier, pelvis bones too frail to last a proper fuck

>>17654339
really 4-16 are mostly good, well not so much 13 and 14

that 19 is cute face, 16 is primo tho, especially if you start working out together and she gradually morphs into a 6 (and you'd get to banging half the chart along the way :D )

its all about the hips, and thighs...

>>17652900
Thread theme

>>17654314
because people are buying bonds?
come on anon read a fucking book

>>17654443
well idk where to invest to with this crash and btc looks more of a meme to me personally

>>17654461
Fuck forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcp2W1-SFt4

>>17654471
SOXS
SOXS
SOXS

Come make money with me anon

>>17654471
shitcoins will crash this week or very soon
just take out your money for now

>>17654477
Check'd and kek'd

>>17654416
Because the inevitable QE mixed with inflation will devalue cash at a rate greater than the potential crash?

>>17654214
Wuhan closing some emergency healthcare centres is something to keep an eye on. If China is starting to see plateau it should provide more accurate timelines for other countries to work from. That's not going to help the markets right now but it's important to monitor.

so ..do I sell off my mutual fund or ride this out? things are looking spicy and i'm getting worried. this is my livelihood here.

I hate central banks

Lean hogs holding the line.

>>17654486
options are zero sum, but investing itself is not

>>17653698
Europoors are just upset they invited in the shitskins and couldnt soak up gibs from the US anymore

>>17654419
You won't get filthy rich off silver probably but it's a safe place to put some $$$. I've only recently started buying some and am now looking at stocks. I look at the silver like a physical savings account

>>17654485
explain

>>17654456
that looks like a dude in drag
you flaming faggot

>>17654477
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypHZ_iKBcoo&t=1062s

This version is way better, it loops properly

>>17654332
>this is the lowest point?

lmao

>>17654499
>this is my livelihood here
holding a mutual fund is your livelihood?
then you should be holding it

Any goys here like money? Buy IBIO.

IBIO is partnered with CC Pharming as of now but can partner with anyone who creates a vaccine. Why would a biopharma partner with IBIO? Because they can pump out a large amount of vaccines fast, for a whole world scale deployment. IBIO has been used by DARPA in the past and they are set up to produce vaccinations for a pandemic.

nanoviricides vs moderna

what should I go all in on lads

>>17654499
he trusts his livelihood to someone else
lmao ngmi

>>17654522
It is the opposite of SOXL, it makes money when markets go down.

If you think the markets will continue to decline, buy. I'm all in on it after seeing futures. Markets are going DOWN this week.

Sell when it stabilizes and then buy the bottom.

>>17654232
Pfft. Zoom out.

>>17654536
and where do they get their supply from?
No product no money

>>17654551
MRNA because it's a Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation fronted business.

I regret not going all in on friday, literally life changing FUCK

inb4 coachella is cancelled tomorrow

What will the "inFluencers" do now? Get the WuFlu and stay at home?

>>17654501
Goddamn right. The piggus will save us all.

>>17654608
what would have you invested in

>>17654610
bound to happen
teen girls won't risk the panic

>tfw 4000 shares of INO at 12 bucks

>>17654650
>tfw 3 shares at 4.50

sucks being big brain yet broke

>>17654649
so this is just that broker yes?
tda won't be affected?

fuck me, does TDAmeritrade site have a dark mode?
It's too early in the morning

BUY SPY 260 PUTS 6 WEEKS OUT

>>17654676
use flux nibba

>>17654675
CBOE is the options exchange genius..

>>17654650
>>17654656
INO has been making moves and could easily be the one to create us a vaccine. Their history is looking good for COVID-19 investment and their stock to keep climbing

goodnight anons
I have a feeling things wont look so good when I get up

>>17654676
>not having a dark mode extension for your browser

>>17654735
>>17654735
>>17654735


NEW!!!

>>17654735
>>17654735
>>17654735

>>17654676
>>17654690
>>17654725
>not using Thinkorswim

>>17653520
Probably. But all the Corona-chan drugs will probably cause stock pumps, remember tamiflu, completely worthless unless taken before symptoms, but still made over a $billion

>>17654997
I do not really remember
Should I look it up?

>>17652900