/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17632277
>vaping some dank weed
>watching hunter x hunter in one monitor
>looking at charts in ToS in my other monitor

maximum comfy achieved.

fuck tripfags btw

>>17632309
>ate a week cookie
>watching madoka
>shitposting on 4chin

right there with ya

>bro its going to crash monday
reminder bond markets are pricing in a 75 bps cut during the fed meeting in a couple of weeks

>>17632333
*weed cookie

Monday will be fun

Remember kids:
Drink water, take your vitamins, and buy TLT, TVIX, SQQQ, and SPXU.

>mfw monday bounce back to pre-coronavirus levels

Gonna be a good day, bullbros.

>bullposting has become entirely ironic now
wew lad

>>17632379
every day is fun, when you're a day trader :^)

>coronavirus cases in NY state up to 89
On the one hand oh fugg
On the other hand good odds uni will close soon so nice break incoming. Stanford completely stopped all non online classes

corona cases are only going to increase the next week or so.. more blood to come

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/07/coronavirus-live-updates-pope-cancels-large-public-appearances-as-cases-surge-in-europe.html

>>17632437
Oh yeah as the pandemic continues to accelerate, I'm sure

>>17632431
Yes bugman. Buy TVIX when the vix is 36

>>17632473
I'm not much into technicals anymore. DIX is daily and sentiment news is mostly daily too. I wish I could quantify supply and demand more continuously.

>>17632520
>uni
when did americans start saying this?

>>17632541
University and college are both used, though I used it since I go to one of the SUNY universities.

>buy the dip

>not living with your parents to keep your expenses at literally 0
>not saving literally every penny you make to buy the bottom
>not selling your possessions to get more cash in hand
not gonna make it

FTSE set up to crash and burn in the next week or two. UK could reach ~1000 cases by Thu/Fri, if Italy's numbers are anything to go by. I assume we have higher pop. density than Italy as well, so the numbers could go up even quicker. NHS is not prepared to a huge influx of patients either and they had an order for 1mil masks turned down bc France kept them for themselves lel
govt seems to be trying the 'keep calm and carry on.. but also wash your hands' strategy so far

>>17632562
I’m really glad they fixed the grammar
But you really should buy the fucking dip, incel

thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZPQdZLyHYE

buy IBIO

>>17632580
As a matter of irrefutable fact, the bottom of the market will be reached when coronavirus is at its worst. Is coronavirus at its worst? No. Therefore, the market will go lower.

When this starts impacting earnings the real rape will occur. We're just getting a taste.

>>17632539
kek

>>17632539
>He doesn't know were already at 41
>He doesn't know we are going to 60

>>17632580
Live with my parents while working, everytime they ask for money I pretend they didn't hear it kek. I'm a piece of shit but they have 3 houses each worth about $300k each so I dont have any sympathy.

Has anyone seen soxl shill lately?

>>17632675

Shills have been coronavirus'd

>>17632580
The only question is when is the bottom?

I'm sorry, but did the markets already crash? Oh, that's right. The fed hasn't even made a decision yet. In fact, it's only cut 50 basis points. Does not having a fed chair who cares about your economy count as crashing? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you buy puts when we had the largest point gain in history this week?

>>17632712
>only 50pb

>>17632712
>>17632726
I don't even know anymore what to think. Is this worrisome?

>Not Buying SNSS

I'm a brainlet when it comes to bond markets, is there any major risks with 20yr treasury bonds (TLT) crashing if the fed cuts rates even more? Anything else I should take into account?
As a token of gratitude, take this Sharpe optimized portfolio some smart anon came up with like a year ago.

>>17632743
SNSS anon, do you mind if I crash at your place until SNSS moons and I can afford food and a roof again? I can't sell so early, but I can't pay my bills.

>>17632743
Are you gay? You can be a 150 IQ faggot and still be AIDS riddled and delusional

>>17632734
>Is an emergency 50 bp cut worrisome?
Yes.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-02/a-brief-history-of-the-federal-reserve-s-emergency-rate-shifts

>>17632793
>10 months between first emergency cut and the collapse in 2008
this thing is going to last the whole year isn't it

God bless the anon that showed me cacavocacococo capital. These are fantastic!

>>17632793
imagine shorting goldman sachs last monthg when it was at 250 lol its gonna tank down to 100

>>17632829
Glad to add another kokopelli fan to the club. But try not to post too much about it, I don’t want any of the retards to start spamming him. And lately we have more retards than ever. Cute rat showed me the light so he deserves the credit.

>>17632321
Based

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE IT'S HAPPENING SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL! THIS IS NOT A FUCKING DRILL CASES ARE GROWING EXPONENTIALLY IN THE US WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL AND MOVE INNA WOODS ASAP TO SURVIVE DO IT!

>>17632881

Not that anyone cares https://www.freightwaves.com/news/china-cargo-flows-rapidly-return-to-pre-coronavirus-levels

What's the outlook for monday?

>>17632949
It's over man who cares?

>>17632941
>march 3
>The caveat is that this was to be expected as Chinese port workers and truckers returned after an extended Chinese New Year (CNY) holiday. Inbound and outbound cargo delayed during the post-CNY period was already en route or contracted for transport.

Fake news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_N-3270JbA
>DONT SELL
>YOURE NOT RATIONAL
>OTHER PANDEMICS DID NOTHING
>ONLY A SMALL QUARTERLY LOSS
>IN TEN YEARS YOULL BE FINE
>ITS ALREADY PRICED IN
Imagine being this desperate.

>>17632949
since im a retard hopefully green open then deep red

>saudi arabian civil war imminent
fuck, is the economy actually gonna crash?

>>17632743
I bought 1700 shares. When will I make it?

>>17632984
Actually bigger than the chink flu if they aren't bluffing. Russia is already going to keep producing. Very unlikely but if it happens 1/3 of US oil and gas upstream will go out of business

>>17632580

>not living with your parents to keep your expenses at literally 0

Why do people shit on this? I have a full time job and live with my parents. Luckily for me, they want me to. I never would have been able to save a single penny if I had moved out.

>>17632967
>watching a millennial fuckboi who has never seen a bear market
whats wrong you? Are you retarded?

>>17632967
>Donald trump and Jewish US economic advisor both say to buy

I dunno

That white guy you're posting looks pretty finance chad as well.

>tfw DCfag

It's over, bros, it's fucking over.

>>17632334
Target 0.25 then? Madness. May as well chop it straight to zero.

>>17633050
>>17633058
>I'm an investment analyst for an independent investment management company in Ottawa. I am a Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) charter holder, and I have a Bachelors degree in Finance. I'm a huge finance nerd and am passionate about the field - I think people lack the resources they need to make educated financial decisions, and hopefully this channel helps with that!

>>17632949

With deaths and cases doubling in the US with no signs of slowing down its hard to think it will be anything but another slaughter of red.

Which is great for me and my puts.

>>17632829
wtf is that

>>17632754
bond funds like TLT hold existing bonds (bonds that have already been issued in the past, with rates determined at the time of issue)

so when rates go down, the existing bonds (with higher rates) instantly become more valuable. (also, if the fed is cutting rates, it means the economy might have some turbulence, so demand for bonds can rise).


Bond funds go down when the fed raises rates significantly, because the demand for the existing bonds with locked in rates is lowered. (also, if the fed is raising rates, the economy is probably doing OK, so people will probably be moving money from bonds into stocks, so the demand for existing and new bonds might decrease).

>>17632984
ah shit. oil keeps going down boys. BUY PUTS ON OIL REFINERIES

>>17633072
some retard with no experience but went to (((college))) ok bro

>>17632453
If things were going to V reversal it would have happened already, Friday would not have been -4% at its lowest, power hour retrace notwithstanding.

i don't want to sell my Uber at the bottom but I can't see things getting any better for them with the virus spreading like it is.

The only upside is it may put some of the smaller players out of business in the food delivery business and help Uber Eats speed up profitability.

>>17633077
I think, personally, that it will be a red day but only slightly. Almost neutral.

>>17632984
>OIL BECOMES CHEAPER THAN MILK

>>17633102
Careful, this is pressure for automated trucking which Uber has its hands in and could be a mere couple of months away if human resource becomes sufficiently expensive

>>17633102
nobody is going to get in an Uber now. People are being warned to stay indoors. at this point just ride it out. or sell and buy puts

>>17633093
If a person has loads of muscles, popping veins, and a high forehead, they're anything but retarded.

If anything this guy looks like a bit of a snake to me, but I can see that he's a good financial advisor because of it.

Capitalism is weak to viral outbreak sense wagies cannot stay home without missing mr shekels payment deadline.

>>17632630
>When Gotham is in ashes, you have my permission to buy t. Corona-chan

>>17633072
Do what I do, sleep naked. If my balls are dropping then I know the day will be bear. If my balls are bunched up I know the day will be green and I get ready to day trade. Learn to think with your nuts not let nuts tell you what to think

>>17632734
>>17632734
The Fed cut twice their normal rate outside of their meeting, at best they can do that 2.5 more times before NIRP. The bump lasted two trading days.
At this point even if you assume each cut is 2x as effective, they've got about a month worth of green candles they can print before the bubble pops.
I don't even know if SQQQ is a good call at this point because they might just literally print money and buy stocks until they get a Venezuelan exchange type scenario. What I do know is they will either let the market tank or fuck up the dollar trying to save it.

>>17633135
Lmfao 10/10

>>17633102
Buy more nigga wtf. Uber and Lyft aren't even at the beginning of their success. Lyft recorded record rides this week because people were opting to use it instead of public transportation. Anon, the autonomous fleets are coming in 5+ years, this market and covid 19 will be long forgotten. Profitability for both companies is coming in the next 2-3 years.

>>17632984
>>17633024
>>17633089
BUY DRIP
GUSH ALREADY $5

>>17632984
this might be a perfect storm

Wew I should have sold my last share of cvx...

>>17633050
He is. like the attention whoring tripfags, don’t give the happeningfags their (you)s

>17633089

>>17632984
This is bad but oil can get messier. Things go from bad to dire when key oil people start winding up "accidentally" deceased.

I'm not joking. If/when tensions get high enough with oil that sort of thing has a history of happening. And then, of course, port blockades, war.

>>17633167
I knew it was a good buy on Friday, hell yeah

>>17633141
I'm pretty bullish on Uber but I don't know if I'm going to buy more yet.

It's my second largest position with 150 shares.

I'd like to get more but want to wait and see if it goes back to $25.

>>17632949
all signs point to red/red so it'll probably be green/green

>>17633135
Sounds pretty comfy to me

>>17633141
>Profitability for both companies is coming in the next 2-3 years.
do you have some kind of source on that?
I thought both companies were losing huge amounts of money with no clear road to profitability?

>>17633173
who is dying? Russians, Saudis, Iranians?
they're trying to squeeze US profitability away, so that they can sell us oil for higher prices, not put bullets in us

>CPAC chairman Matt Schlapp tells me he interacted with attendee who has tested positive for coronavirus. While the timeline is unknown, Schlapp shook Trump's hand on stage the last day of the conference.
holy shit lmao
goodbye monday

>>17633102
Uber/Lyft might not be hurt that much by this. Less rides will probably mean they bleed less money, so their only cost will be RnD and infrastructure.

>>17633141

I'm actually a little afraid of the fact that I use Uber really commonly to commute. I'm likely to be sitting in the same seat some sick airport pickup was just an hour ago.

>>17632967
>unironically uses sunk cost fallacy to justify staying in the market through a pandemic
jesus christ i hope this isn't who you take your advice from

>>17632537

The great sniffles pandemic OOOOoooOOOooooo

I do hope Saudia Arabia gets invaded

>>17633185
yeah I thought uber/lyft were built to hemorrhage cash. Aren't they just jockeying for market share that will become valuable once autonomous vehicles take off?

Wouldn't more people using it just dig them deeper into the hole?

>>17633173
Just to be clear here, i was the anon who was long term bullish on oil up until Friday. When Russia pulled out i immediately realized a 20% loss. OPEC negotiations failing completely was worst case scenario. Now there's going to be a price war and it'll be a race to the bottom. The only reason to hesitate about shorting here is the potential for military involvement. If it comes to blockades and combat, the price will become highly unstable and impossible to trade in a risk managed way outside of day trade time frame.

Gallon of milk is slightly more expensive than gas right now. Some stations in houston are at $1.90/gallon.

>>17633193
>they're trying to squeeze US profitability away,
Yes and how long do you imagine that will be tolerated?

>>17633058
>Not doing the opposite of what Jews & Zion Don say
Never gonna make it

>>17633141
>Not realizing Tesla is going to corner the market on autonomous cars and trucks.
Tesla will have huge automated underground parking garages (built by The Boring company of course) in cities which will house Tesla cars that will be automatically drive to locations on demand and then return, all for PENNIES.

>>17633185


https://www.wsj.com/articles/lyfts-toll-road-to-profitability-11581531665

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3548245-lyft-maintains-q1-outlook-despite-coronavirus

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3548601-jpmorgan-calls-lyft-compelling-after-coronavirus-comments

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-results/uber-sees-profit-by-end-of-2020-but-still-expects-full-year-loss-idUSKBN2002UQ

>>17633220
They're making like a billion a quarter on their rideshare but have massive one time costs associated with their IPO, and massive losses on Uber Eats as they are competing for market share. They're also spending billions on stuff like autonomous vehicles and other start ups like Uber Freight.

The they'll never be profitable meme is just by dumb boomers buying shit like Disney and Exxon Mobile cuz muh dividend.

>>17633255
oops meant to reply to
>>17633193

>>17633255
Another thing that kind of scares me is it seems Lyft is starting to get a lot more momentum in the U.S when I thought it was a forgone conclusion that they'd never catch Uber.

>>17633238
until our production folds or is subsidized?
it's tough beans for the Russians and Saudis if they don't want to cut, but that's just where we are now. I don't see and targets on the table for this one, we're all just going to have to fight through it together. Eventually, someone will blink (or they won't :^)

>>17633264
I hate boomers. Their auto self destruction is sweet, delicious gloriousness.

>>17633282
Duopolies are generally good for investors

>>17633173
so buy when? im looking at XOM its at an all time low and dropping who knows how much more

>>17633284
Saudis wanted to cut really bad. This also increases tensions between them and the ruskies.

>>17633206
what's your other option? public transport?

>>17633295
When it's stupid low or demand increases enough to stabilize things. By stupid low i mean under $30. Every oil producing country will be running at a loss if it goes to $20 range.

*cough cough cough*

>>17633213
Whatever, don't cry to me when new york gets shut down within the next two weeks over "the great sniffles"

>>17633345
it's just a flu bro

>>17633264
>>17633287

>shitting on blue chip dividend stocks

Have fun cutting open the golden goose simpletons. Buy staple divvies while they’re cheap or you are a fucking retard

https://twitter.com/ColeMillerTV/status/1236398655906516992
GUYSSS??
GUUUUUUYSSSSSS??????????????
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>17633087
Thank you dear fren, may your upcoming week be profitable.

>>17633243
I unironically believe tesla will come up on top if this downturn turns into a recession, when money is tight people are going to start looking at electric, not to mention companies like ford and gm are practically zombies already.

>>17633345

Weak faggot, I’ll see you on the other side of my gains while you hide under your blankie from the big bad cold

>>17633243
yeah OK but not any time soon, it should return to around 200-300 per share in the meantime and you know it

>>17633385
>old people homes

>>17633402
>When will TSLA bears learn?

>>17633385
>Seattle Sounders FC’s match versus Columbus Crew SC on Saturday, March 7 is scheduled to take place as planned at CenturyLink Field

ah yes let's gather 40k people in the middle of a virus outbreak, less than 20 miles from the main source of the outbreak in the area

>>17633219
If that happens how do we profit from it? also checked

>>17633385
50% is a lot higher than the 11-15% fatality rate estimated for 70-80+

thoughts on tesla?

>>17633467
BUY YOU FOOL!

I got GIS and LH calls. I expect all the other shit to tank for the most part.

>>17633454
you'll notice they considered themselves an "acute care facility" which means the old people there already had serious shit going on and required staying in a specialized nursing home to recuperate. poor fucks had no chance

>>17633454
"acute care facility" meaning the people there are (/were) recovering from severe illnesses. so that place is just about as 'at risk' as you could get

>>17633452
oil and gold

not too familiar with arms dealers

>>17632277
>>17632309
>>17632333
>Dab pen
>Friendzone playing
>Reading Corona Fud

I needed this comfy feeling to recover from 4 heart attacks last week

>>17633496
Yep

>>17632829
>>17632881
let me into your secret club. are you talking about a stock in an investment company?

>>17633452
War in the middle east is instant long on oil scenario.

>>17633419
>>17633454
>>17633486
>>17633496
>>17633541
Your boomer parents might not know whats going on so make sure to help them stay safe.

>>17633452
Also defense like Lockheed Martin.

>>17633480
I don't know. Tesla seems kind of retarded

>>17633549
I know. My step dad is in nursing home due to MS. He nearly died from pneumonia a few years ago.

>>17633141
I thought you had better judgement than this... when good shit is on sale, why buy totally speculative shit?

>>17633058
Glad we're back to posting cute girls who would make good pets! All this sissy porn stuff has me worried for the sanity and self-esteem of /smg/

>>17633385
Holy shit...
what's that senior care REIT that's not been doing so well lately called?

>>17633544
it's all a secritt

>>17633581
It's the only 2 speculative stocks I have in my poopfolio. I've been buying BAC and DIS on the drop as well.

why is the CDC reporting 164 cases in the US lmao

Guys, this kung flu is fucking everything up. Fuck china.

>>17633549
We can only try, I kept trying to warn them in two weeks in advanced but they just go its just the flu bro and they live in LA. How does one get it through to them the gravity of the situtaiton or is it to late?

>>17633394
How do you figure? Teslas are expensive and gas is cheap right now. A Tesla is not going to pay for itself and people won't have the money to buy a luxury car.

Would like to know your thoughts.

>>17633394
A recession could fuck tesla up lol. People don't buy new luxury cars in a recession.

>>17633394
>I unironically believe tesla will come up on top if this downturn turns into a recession, when money is tight people are going to start looking at electric
how can you even be this disconnected from reality? acid trips?

>The White House overruled health officials who wanted to recommend that elderly and physically fragile Americans be advised not to fly on commercial airlines because of the new coronavirus,
lmao
gonna let these retards spread it nationwide because DONTPANIC.jpg

>>17632754
Bonds are probably still a good play, but dangerous to hold long term.

QE/NIRP will not be able to pull us out of this one. Eventually they will have to use a combination of helicopter money and devaluing the dollar, which will make bond yields moon and make packaged bonds blood red.

>>17632967
>disease outbreaks haven't been a big stock mover in the past
well sure but corona isn't exactly on the same level as disease outbreaks in the past 20 years

let's look at SARS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome
8,098 cases and 774 deaths in 29 countries

meanwhile corona is at 105836 cases and 3558 deaths in 99 countries.
and it's only just started to spread outside asia.

BullBros... this could really be SHTF time.

From what I understand, the oilpatch companies are levered up like hell. Now the Saudi's are giving the Russians what they "want," and forcing a glut of oil onto the market. This could cause a wave of defaults.

That is, assuming they follow through with it.

A wave of urges to long, short, and neither are surging through me. I can't believe the vix could go even higher. But...

>>17633629
it's SP still amazes me

>>17633655
Liberals in January
>IT'S JUST THE FLU BRO
Liberals in March
>WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE AND IT'S DRUMPFS FAULT!!!

best puts for monday?

>>17633432
We /rainbowsix/ now

Man, on the one hand I'm furious the government would rather down play this than have the market fall, but I'm also ecstatic that the day of the pillow has finally arrived

You get what you fucking deserve, boomers

>>17633654
traditionally, recessions are associated with oil shocks, so it could be an idea from the pre-Permian shale revolution playbook.

>>17633238
>Yes and how long do you imagine that will be tolerated?
Are you implying the US would ever stand up to Saudi Arabia?
That'd be the day.

>>17633593
Really? I was tempted to buy BAC but I'm not sure how to do financials with yields like they are. DIS is one I crashed out of, and kept one share to keep it on my radar and because I'm retarded.

>>17633655
if someone is either elderly or physical fragile AND dumb enough to get on an airline now when there's a highly contagious disease that excels at killing the elderly and physically fragile they're doing us all a favor by saving us the SS or Medicare dollars

let the boomer purge of 2020 begin. i want to start off this decade boomer free.

>>17633614
>>17633629
>cars
This is the big mistake. They aren't a car company, they are an innovation company. Tesla is revealing a new revolutionary battery in April. Not to mention they are way ahead in self driving because they get real data from every car on the road. But what will explode their business is autonomous semis which they hinted last quarter, but will soon become a reality. Soon, every other truck on the road will be a Tesla Auto-Semi.

>>17633691
yeah, recessions are also associated with, ya know, whatchamacallit, "low consumer spending" I think it is?

>>17633683
>stuck in the us vs. them, Libs vs. Cons duality paradigm
NGMI unless you evolve

>>17633691
>>17633593
Oh I meant to add, I'm waiting to buy back into DIS until they announce park closures and the stock (possibly) takes another leg down. However... I am currently questioning my bullish bias.

>>17633683
kek

>>17633671
>only started to spread
Didn't they already know about it late last year, who knows how far it had spread before getting shilled by MSM

>>17633683
>you can't criticize the government incompetence on coronachan because that'd be criticizing Trump and make you a dirty liberal
top kek
perhaps I don't want to get fucked by this virus thanks to my shitty immune system?
>>17633699
you forget over half the country are outright retards

>>17633703
not to mention their solar pannel roofing is finally looking promising from their solar city purchase that almost bankrupt them

i want to fomo in so bad please crash back down to $400

>>17633714
I'm not in the game of trying to time things anymore, I'm just putting in as much cash as I lose, as we go down.

make money

>>17633717
only started to spread outside of asia for reals, i mean

>America, Saudi Arabia and Russia waging a three front oil war
I live in Canada guys. Pray for me. Maybe I should just hop the border and work on a farm for cash in the Midwest for a while

>>17633588
i'm cool, you can tell me

Does Trump really have a Tesla time machine?

He used the trade war as a way for the US to be less dependent on Chinese trade. 4D chess indeed.

>>17632712
This had better be bait.

>>17633764
canada relies on oil prices as mush as usa does.

>>17633135

>>17633703
Self driving semis sounds like a great start to a 21st century wave of bandits. The self driving semi will not want to cause a crash so you can coordinate multiple cars to pull it over, then take the goods on the inside. That's going to be some juicy news story in a few years.

>>17633703
Tesla is not a start up lol. It can pretend to be whatever it wants to be for marketing shtick, but its an automobile manufacturing company.

>>17633764
>its more profitable for Canada to sell sand than to extract the oil

>>17633808
>truck bandits
Do you live in Uganda? Stop watching so many movies.

>>17633817
Ok boomer.

>>17633764
>Maybe I should just hop the border and work on a farm for cash in the Midwest for a while
not a bad idea dude. manual labor is the only profession that makes sense in this fucking clown world. You can physically see and feel the work you do, be compensated with cash in hand, and then think to yourself, "Ah, this all feels right." Maybe you'll get lucky and meet a cool farmer with a hot daughter you can ask to marry.

>>17633808
It never amazes me how dumb people are. You think Tesla is going to be able to come up with a self driving, autonomous semi truck but not come up with a cheap way to safeguard the product?

The real story is gonna be the millions of trailer trash, subhuman truck drivers that will be out of work and barely qualified to work at a McDonalds.

>>17633820
I'm legitimately afraid. How hard would it be to drive into Alaska? Alberta will collapse into civil unrest. Ontario will lose what is left of our industry. Quebec will chino out and demand separation. Maritimes will just continue to get drunk and ask for bennies. BC will sell what is left of its soul to their Chinese overlords

>>17633746
That's cool, it's the smart thing to do if you make decent money and don't have to worry about losing your job.

>>17633739
That first point, I'm not sure if it's a ton of retards or just that one same guy, but if you say one bad thing about trump he spams you with "it was her turn" type nonsense. Fucking retards on here lately.

>>17633713
I/we continue to have no stance on Tesla, and don't give a shit about it. Why buy/short Tesla or other autos when LMT is on sale?

>>17633834
You want to know why 90% of mergers fail? You want to know why big corps buy up any promising start-ups? Tesla can meme whatever it wants about muh innovation. There's a reason Apple isn't in biotech

>>17633841
I was going to do that out west but after the past few weeks it is clear Canada is going to suffer. Divine punishment for our sins. Maybe taking a leap of faith and jumping the border to do honest work in a forgotten but honest community will restore the gods favour. Fucking scared man. I'm going to bring my guns with me just in case

>>17633844
How strong are trucking unions? I can't imagine they drive Teslas until the trucks are good enough to drive themselves

>>17633846
The collapse in oil prices will not be the collapse of civilization. Once the over-levered shittier companies die off, they'll be gobbled by the bigger players who can afford to wait for russia and saud to settle their spat and get their price-fixing oil cartel back to business.

>>17633239
Lmao Seethe harder gentile

>>17633891
There has never been a union strong enough to stop automation. They can delay it, but it is inevitable.

How would one start into researching stocks?
When looking at stocks on broker/tradeing sites i only get very basic information about the course and maybe some small text in which whoever describes the company
Is there a nice graphical tool to compare stuff like earnings, expenses, asset growth, share price growth and debt?

>>17633891
>>17633914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKLIivrA3g0

>>17633877
What the fuck are you going on about? Tesla is making self driving systems, the most advanced batteries, the best electric motors, and a new generation of automated factories. You're such a fucking boomer, you can't even see whats in front of your face. Nobody is forcing you to invest in TSLA anyway, its literally your loss.

>>17633611
Same situation here. My folks only trust conservative media so until trump says it’s a problem, it isn’t. Let me know if you figure out a way to get through to them.

I unironically think solar panels are based and a very free market libertarian thing because you no longer have to rely on some multi billion dollar utility conglomerate with an effective monopoly and government subsidies. We're maybe 10 to 20 years from them being actually competitive instead of a green energy meme. Right now if I want to build an off-the-grid house a diesel generator with maybe 20-30% of your peak load on solar is the most effective solution.

>>17633764
>>17633795
I believe Canada's average profit point is a bit higher than US because we have those juicy Permian Basin deposits. Canada has oil sands: Icky, needs more processing, has to be pumped through lines that Indians keep poo-poo'ing on, very sour (lots of sulphur).

>>17633896
You don't seem to understand just how bad the situation is in our oil patch. Canada never really recovered from 2015. Our oil patch saw so many bankruptcies of small and even big guys. Tons of big guys took on huge massive debt to survive with tons of layoffs. The unemployment for young men like me is 20%. 20% is fucking recession levels. We stopped building pipelines because natives and lefties chimp out. They just finished blockading the network of railways across the country for 3 weeks causing billions in economic damage across the country. I need to get out and pray I can find some good soul willing to take me on for room and board.

>>17633947
The unemployment rate for young men in Canada is 20% Shit. I guess I can’t move there, get a job and scoop up qts. Good luck.

>>17633914
Tesla has bottom lines to meet before then

My company makes pipeline equipment for oil & gas.

>>17633975
That's just Alberta. Those poor souls work so fucking hard and keep getting shit on by our feds. They really got fucked over in 2015, but nobody really acknowledges it

>>17633141
Uber will always be a shit company. it's drivers always whine and complain, the alternative to being schedule C is being a cab driver, which is what uber isnt.

>>17633947
>>17633975
>>17633998
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/men-male-youth-unemployment-jobs-alberta-1.5389303
Fuck dude thats rough. How the fuck was Trudeau re-elected? Its rigged as bad as California isnt it?

>>17633946
>>17633947
>>17633975
>>17633998

At least you guys have diversity, right leaf-bros?

Focus on what really matters :)

>>17634012
Good I hope their drivers keep complaining, it only pushes them towards automation.

>>17633989
>bottom lines
OMEGA BOOMER

>>17633568
I think tesla is just so massively overhyped the share value just has to be overvalued as fuck
Whats cool about tesla is that they push production into full automation, a concept boomers and boomer led companies dont seem to understand

>>17633332
what an incredible bargain that would be, the earth literally stops turning without petroleum

>>17634013
Our parliamentary system gives FUCKHUGE electoral districts to high population urban areas. The situation is Canada is directly controlled by the Greater Toronto Area, Greater Montreal, and Greater Vancouver. And because they have such political power, they get most of the provincial and federal subsidies as well. Encouraging more people to move to these three cities. Guess where the majority of immigrants get out in? You guessed it, these three cities.

>>17633691
>>17633394
When money is tight people go for used cars

>>17634019
keep it long but more players might arrive by that time

>>17634026
>overvalued as fuck
STOP. People have been saying this for nearly a decade. I made the same mistake and about around 300 and got cold feet at 240 because of all the stupid boomers screaming its going bankrupt. Now look what happened. Its bankrupted literal millionaires. Just. Buy.

>>17633421
dude is whining about how Corona is lame instead of using his big brain to solve it and make money IMHO

>>17633930
Lmao settle down autist. I'm merely pointing out its an automobile manufacturing company, which it is as you just pointed out (for some reason LOL?) Mega corporations stick to things they are good at. Tesla can pretend its whatever it wants to be. It's not a start-up any more. It will not be able to be as agile as it once was. Sooner or later it's going to figure out if its identity is in automobiles, batterys, underground transport systems (Lmao), or whatever

>>17634020
Everything okay at home friend? :)

Used to have manlove for Elon, but now he seems like self-righteous a faggot.
>All hands meeting 1 a.m. on a Sunday
Don't care how driven or motivated workers are, burning them out is a waste of talent. I've had jobs with mandatory 60 hour work weeks, after hour 50 people turn into zombies. Niggas got family and shit

>>17633713
>people aren’t spending

>>17633891
I used to do tax returns for tons of truckers, I never saw ONE unionized one, but im from a non union area, that being said, marauders will destroy robots

>>17634057
Bruh Musk is the modern day PT Barnum, he's all bark no bite.

>>17633713
short term spending yes but what about chink supply chains

>>17633930
> using a Tesla
> it using Uber Tesla

You hate money hub

>>17634091
hes made top notch cars, people rave about them, id grant him more than PT barnum status but boomers have a point in profitability for short term stock value

>>17633946
>I unironically think solar panels are based and a very free market libertarian thing because you no longer have to rely on some multi billion dollar utility conglomerate with an effective monopoly and government subsidies.
Based
>We're maybe 10 to 20 years from them being actually competitive instead of a green energy meme.
Solar panels excell in certain situations, this is especially off grid useage in desolate regions
Bringing diesel is annoying, a one time setup of a solar rig not so much
Also green energy isnt a meme boomer
>>17634052
How do i best look at their earnings/debt?

>>17633975
>Canadian
>qts

Lmao

So I've heard the judge handling the JEDI contract issue between Microsoft & Amazon is confident that Amazon will win out.
Any MSFT holders worried?

>>17634075
USS College Fund

Is their any way to invest into hightech freightsailers?

>>17634144
>holding

I did get calls early in the week because of a judgment error, but no, I'm not fucking holding shares. I'll take the loss and not bet on a mainstay again just because it's a mainstay.

>>17634133
What's wrong with hafus?
>>17634144
y-yes
I'm not sure what a victory would even do, it's not like they'll end up with the contract. I guess they could get a gov't payout though.

I've really been hoping to see AMZN in the 1700's again so I can nab a share.

>>17634133
There are but they are soulless cunts. They go through the motions and sell you a false bag of goods. If you even give her a hint that you are going through hard times she will drop you for the next guy who buys her a drink

>>17634088
Interesting. It will be a battle but appears inevitable

>>17634091
>Musk is a fraud
Why do people say this? I've seen him talk and present, hes a fucking autistic nerd. He's obviously is getting results in batteries, cars, boring, and rockets.

>>17634127
>Earnings
Exploding, 500k cybertruck orders, Model Y coming out early, new factories almost finished.

>Debt
Tesla: $13 billion ($7 billion cash on hand)
Chrysler: $26 billion ($17 billion)
GM: $94 billion ($20 billion)
Ford: $155 billion ($37 billion)
This is after they were bailed out too.

>>17634127
Have you actually tried living off of solar panels alone? I have. Getting enough capacity to run an a/c unit costs about $10k. And that's just a/c. What if I want to run a microwave, or a computer, or hot water heater? I can buy a small diesel generator for $5k and a 200 gallon tank mounted on a truck to give me enough diesel to last 6 months. Instead of being at the mercy of the weather, getting a baseload of solar could potentially extend that tank to 9-12 months.

Is this priced in lads?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51787238

>>17634169
Pretty sure that's all women, especially intelligent ones.

>>17634169
did you guys fix the thing with the natives and the trains yet?

>>17634188
the CYBERTRUCK is the final nail in the coffin of all non-CYBERTRUCK automotive manufacturers

>>17634199
Italy's prime minister has said at least 16 million people are in mandatory quarantine in Lombardy region and also in 14 provinces.

The lock-down will last until early April.

The dramatic escalation in the country's efforts to contain the new coronavirus will close gyms, pools, museums and ski resorts.

Italy is Europe's worst-hit country and reported a steep rise in virus infections on Saturday.

The new measures, which also apply to financial centre Milan and tourist hotspot Venice will last until 3 April.

The death toll in Italy has passed 230, with officials reporting more than 50 deaths in 24 hours. The number of confirmed cases jumped by more than 1,200 to 5,883 on Saturday.

The whole northern region of Lombardy, home to 10 million people and Italy's financial centre Milan, will be closed off except to emergency access, and 14 provinces including Venice, Parma and Modena will be subject to the same measures - affecting a total of around 16 million people.

Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said the provinces affected were Modena, Parma, Piacenza, Reggio Emilia, Rimini, Pesaro and Urbino, Alessandria, Asti, Novara, Verbano Cusio Ossola, Vercelli, Padua, Treviso and Venice.

Until now only around 50,000 people in northern Italy had been affected by quarantine measures.

For you guys defending Tesla and Musk, like this is your Festung Europa, whats your take on Nikola motors going public?

>>17634188
>Exploding, 500k cybertruck orders
***500k $100 dollar initial deposits. Not orders. No one except divorced single dads is buying that shit lmao

>>17634207
It's ongoing but the big ones are over. The government will give them more money to not do it again. The chiefs will keep it for themselves and then they will chump out again. The cycle continues my friend

So I'm going to buy a bunch of carnival cruiseline on monday.

Good idea? Are you Jealous?

>>17634217
Doesn't matter the quarantine isn't going to work if you have a bunch of possibly infected spaghetti eating fucks escaping the quarantined provinces. Already people who might have been infected were getting on trains to go to neighboring provinces that weren't infected.

China is already rebounding from cv. Let’s just start at dec to March is 3 mths. So for the west, say 3 mths from now is June and we should be recovering, but i don’t think it will even take that long. May is the latest.

>>17634223
I have $5k VTIQ with a cost basis of $12.50 only because this is a reverse merger SPAC, which pretty much guarantees meme speculation stock that zoomers will fall in love with (aka SPCE). I have little care about the actual technology and am okay with losing 50% of it because I know this could potentially 10x for no reason other than meme bullshit.

>>17634081
gotta get all their money out of them before they die

GG

>>17634237
It's still too high. Let a few more boomers get sick on those floating petri dishes and watch it go down to 15 and then get in.

>>17634241
bro, its effectively barring productive labor/spending to 16 MILLION people. It does matter

>>17634217
Isn't Italy's economy all based on tourism? They make some stuff, but anything that they make in Italy someone else can make pretty easily.
I see how this Coronavirus will gut their economy, but I don't think it will hurt the US too much.
Call me back when Germany shuts down

>>17634234
have you considered becoming an Indian chief? you get to ride around on a horse with your face painted and your hair all long and flowing, fucking only the finest native bitches and eating fresh game

>>17633087
So you would say US treasury bond prices will only increase in demand over the next few months?

Also, what do you think about corporate bonds? Increase only?
>also to you and the rest of the lads reading this: what hasn't popped yet, especially in regards to puts/high IV, that will go down if market loses another 10% whilist people are screaming about the virus in a few weeks from now? We need to think smart. We're a relatively small group on here, fairly isolated, your secrets are safe. I'm somewhat of a brainlet when it comes to stocks, but I'm thinking of shorting the obvious: casino/resorts, hotels, restaurant chains. ...maybe even financial institutions? Short FAS? Basically, wondering what is left that seems solid, has a low cost of shorting but max gains.

>>17634188
interesting about their meme debt, at zero interest I hope

think that marks the right vix ear. gbr coming soon

>>17634250
Trusting the CCP's numbers is the stupidest thing you can do. They probably haven't contained it given the fact that pollution associated with their heavy industries haven't increased and the WHO is literally sucking their dick.

>>17634263

Okay.

Also, I got snapchat stock for free, should I dump that shit as everyone moves on to instagram or will it make a comeback when zoomers all have to stay home sick?

>>17634268
I'm Scottish. The only colour I'm painting my face is blue.

Half hour to movie night! Tonite's feature is Memento (2000)!
>>17634250
Ess and Pee 3400 and VIX to 5 by fourth of July

>>17634188
compare that cash level to market value for all those companies now please

>>17634268
For all we know all those Italians could be fleeing to Germany as we speak. Also don't forget Deutsche bank might get wrecked next week and signal the death of the German economy.

>>17634188
Earnings and such would be nice in a graphic timeline but sounds nice
>>17634197
>Getting enough capacity to run an a/c unit
Fucking boomer
You dont run an ac when living on solars
>you dont run an ac in general
>What if I want to run a microwave
Running a microwave at 800W for 5 minutes needs 100Wp pv for an hour
Lightening is irrelevant with LED's
>or hot water heater?
Same as with microwave
>a computer
Energy efficient tower built should use around 400W, laptop less
>if its too hot a fan is like 30W

>>17634257
But do people even know that this is going to happen or is this a niche stock? Like everyone knows who the hell Richard Branson is, but I doubt it is the same for VTIQ, like VRT.

>Germany cucked by Italy for the third time in history

>>17634268
>The EU doesn't impact US economy
delusional bull

They are making me laugh my ass off by saying that masks are ineffective and healthcare workers need masks in the same breath!

>inb4 healthcare workers need mask training and masks that properly fit.

Guys here is the mask training I received from a big hospital chain in Pittsburgh (UPMC). You get two masks to choose from small and large, then you put one on. They put a plastic head thing on you and spray this liquid. They say can you taste the liquid? No, then the mask fits. It doesn't then try the other size! Totally ridiculous. The stuff they spray smells so sickening sweet, that I can't tell if I can taste it or not and I'm telling you no one else can either.

>76 NY cases
OH NO NO NO THEY SAID THIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN

>>17632824
no one knows. But, imagine this: virus hits US worse than China, due to our freedom and lack of organized/authoritarian government. Many people stay home from work, due to work policies AND due to schools canceled. Many people with student loans and car loans laid off from 1. various normal white collar jobs 2. food prep/service 3. casino/resorts/hospitality etc 4. Mass transit.
>Many [car--student--mortgage--business] loans not getting paid, crunching the banks
>Interest rates dropping, further crunching the banks
>value of many assets dropping [at least in perception]. etc etc.
SO ANONS, what do we short? And then what do we buy/call DURING "peak fear"? (and when is "peak fear" estimate? ...Ideally it will be just before the apex of the number of virus cases, imho. Virus panic and fear of unknown economic effects may be greater than the actual economic effects. Timing is everything. Kindly please put forth your best thoughts, so we may all be better off in this smg.

>>17634328
Retail investors don't know. Its market cap is so low that it gets insta banned on wallstreetbets. As soon as the ticker turns to NKLA you'll see the zoomers slowly start flocking.

>>17634324
Yeah, just die from heat stroke because being 100% solar is the best thing ever. Even in Alaska a bad summer can get to 90+ Fahrenheit. Stop LARPing please

>>17634272
no one knows
certainly the market tends to think the fed will continue easing
if they don't, a lot of people who were buying bonds on Friday will get a little bit bogged. But they won't get absolutely crushed, they'll just be holding lots of bonds that lose to inflation by a bit.

>>17634287
are you in Scotland right now? are you going to revolt against the Windsors and take back the northlands?

>>17634341
delusional bulls cope in interesting ways. All the sane bulls have converted already

>Entire world and it's leaders sperging out and quarantining huge populations of people at a time
>interest rates and QE already been pumped in to the economy
JUST. THE. FLU. BRO.

>>17634335
The only things that we (the US) buy from Italy are souvenirs, pasta, wine, and Ferraris. AFAIK.
If we buy anything else from Italy, let me know

>>17634223
>>17634257
>Nikola motors
Can it be anymore an obvious scam?
>Nikola <---> Tesla
>Electric trucks
>Batteries
>These 2 clowns
You cannot be serious.

>>17634324
You can just use Google you know. They posted POSITIVE last two quarters.
https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/tsla/earnings

>>17634298
>TSLA has the lowest debt to market ratio
Ok... what was the point of that?

>>17634268
Yeah just wait until a major supplier to the US economy shuts down. THEN you can start to worry, until then it's a nothing burger.

>>17634382
I don't even care if Nikola is a scam. I've made a lot of money speculating on shitcoin scams. This is the same game. It's a speculation, not investment.

>>17634368
>b-b-but democracy is the b-best government bruh

what sector do you boys reckon will dump the hardest, and in a years time pump the hardest once all of this shit has blown over?

>>17634357
>Yeah, just die from heat stroke
Ok boomer
>being 100% solar is the best thing ever.
The best thing is being 100% geothermal but sadly that only works in few regions
Wind and water energy are nice too, the stonks even had nice returns last year :^)

>>17634259
this genuinely made me bellylaugh. i won't spoil it for everyone else...

>>17634368
Ya know the spanish flu is a flu strain too ;^).
>>17634375
>spoonfeed me all the trade we do with italy
lazy nigger kys

U.S. exports to Italy are concentrated in high-value sectors such as pharmaceutical products (17%), machinery (12%), and aircraft (7%)
http://www.worldstopexports.com/italys-top-import-partners/

Below is a list showcasing 15 of Italy’s top trading partners, countries that imported the most Italian shipments by dollar value during 2018. Also shown is each import country’s percentage of total Italian exports.

Germany: US$68.7 billion (12.6% of total Italian exports)
France: $57.2 billion (10.5%)
United States: $50.1 billion (9.2%)

>>17634408
>JUST BUILD A GEOTHERMAL PLANT LOL
Okay, now I know you're some autistic retard still in college pretending he's solved all the worlds problems. You don't practice a single word that you've typed today. Go fuck yourself.

>>17634400
can't wait for my FEMA camp free housing bros

>>17634359
>You have to live in Scotland to be Scottish
I'll take R1b-M269 for $1000 Alex

>>17634382
>Nikola Motors CEO


>>17634398
I suppose that counts as a plan.

>>17634418
>lazy nigger
>here lemme help you anyway
i love this site

>>17634430
Its not feasible for offgrid use ffs, these things power small citys

>>17634435
you're Canadian lad
have you eaten more or less Poutine or Haggis in the past year
think about it

You need to activate the berserker gene and assume leadership of one of the native tribes through force and dominance. It's the only way to truly prove your Scottish heritage. I believe in you

>>17634438
those side mirrors look uhhhh.... how do I say it?
definitely isn't a cybertruck. I would bet that they have fewer than 500k pre-orders.

>>17634401
Anything luxury will dump hard, eg fashion brands, perfume, etc. Medical will pump short term obviously, military/police small arm stuff will as well, prepper companies too. Plastics might be a good idea too. Long term nothing will pump, they will just be hit less hard. Expect tech companies to basically die long term as they are luxury brands when you really look at them.

Robotics and AI might be good really long term investments. Can be used for medical purposes and the research won't slow down much during a pandemic (especially AI). Might be what is needed to bounce the economy back after the shitstorm that is about to come.

Movie night movie night! Get in here! Tonite's feature is Memento (2000)!

>>17634466
I think thats just a 3D model. As far as I can tell, none of their shit is real, only these prototype semis. Just go to their website, everything is a 3D model while Tesla actually literally already built all of this.

Remember, everyone: DST begins tonight. Don't forget we lose an hour. Make sure to get to bed early and get to church on time.

>>17634375
La Marzocco still makes their espresso machines by hand in Florence. I have a 3 group head Linea from 1993, it's a tank.

>>17634289
>mfw gonna have to hodl svxy til July
oh no but then I can't buy all the cheapies...
Enjoy movie!

>>17634375
Watches, cheese, olive oil.

>>17634033
Correct, and the extra double funny part of this is Trudy himself campaigned on a promise to change that situation for his first term. He then promptly welshed on it, no apology, blew it off like yeah I'm not gonna tho.

>>17634337
>A fellow yinzer. Thats a rare sight.

>https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/putin-dumps-mbs-breaks-opec-oil-alliance-initiates-war-us-shale
What the fuck is with 2020? It's like the fucking end times this year.

>>17634349
Short SPY, long leverage on gold and bonds.

Wait for helicopter money to start.

Short bonds and buy Bitcoin before inflation hits 10% a year.

>>17634572
it was only two months ago that we had just won the US-Iranian war and markets were perpetually at ATH
what happened bros...

>>17634575
Bitcoin is going to explode this year.

>>17634572
Yeah cheap gas oh no we're ruined.

How dumb are these third world shitters? Didn't they learn anything from last time?

The cheaper you make gas the more efficient and advanced US companies will become. And even if the small players go out of business you think Exxon or BP won't be buying up these shale reserves if oil ever hits $60+ a gallon again?

>>17634600
Lol Bitcoin's down about 15% since this mess started in line with the S&P.

Muh store of value.

>>17634612
All those defaulting oil companies are not going to be good for stability, the economy, employment, the financial system, etc.

>>17634621
People don't understand the wealth effect, and what "risk-off" means.

>>17634600
>checked.
Maybe. I think it's going to crab this year, but in doing so will outperform other asset classes and trigger mass FOMO into 2021 and beyond. I'm holding onto my BTV position, as well as pic related.

Biggest positions currently are crypto, bond ETFs, leveraged gold ETFs, and inverse Index ETFs. Will hold these positions for 6-12 months until it's obvious that devaluing the dollar is the only solution. Bond ETFs will be the first to be cut.

>>17634612
>all this random projection
I'm not taking a side here dumbass, I'm just marveling at how much shit is going down this year. We literally have Greece/Turkey about to duke it out, oil wars starting again, possible global economic recession, hordes of locust, plague hitting farms, and the wu flu. I want off this wild ride.

Alright.

Since shorting the US is suicidal, who is still shortable/putable?

I’ve got a good feeling about my Italy puts, but I took on a bit too much risk with my Marriott call credit spread.

Any South America, europe, Asian, countries that haven’t been sold into the floor? Or companies? Maybe Canada?

>>17634357
Wait i translated stupid Fahrenheit into Celsius and your talking about temperatures above 32°C giving you a heatstroke?
Nigga thats nothing, just a normal summer day
Anything above 37°C, or 98°F for you gets annoying

Saudi increases production, and since it can pump at a profit as low as $15, every single other producer globally feels the squeeze. Including non-OPEC. But this is about intimidation of the OPEC+ cartel. This is about Putin once again trying and failing to punch above his weight class. This is about re-establishing pre-eminence.

>>17634777
>I’ve got a good feeling about my Italy puts
same here, also nice lucky trips

>>17634777
Shorting the US is profitable, I made 15% in the last few weeks.

Just never short China. The US has to use the Fed to fake their stock numbers. China can just blatantly lie about theirs.

>>17634259
nice

HOW DO I GET AS MUCH EXPOSURE AS POSSIBLE TO SPACEX THANK YOU I HAVE AUTISM

>>17633126

>>17634838
Spacex is a private company

>>17634848
I am aware of this, what public stock has the biggest stake in it?

>>17634817
Yeah, and now that it’s down 10+% and the vix is at 52-week highs, it’s a much different game. And if sudden good new arrives about the antiviral treatment trials, we could explode higher. Those are mostly US companies, and will prioritize treatment in the US.

>>17634817
>15% in a few weeks
>not 100%+ in a day

>>17634852
only GOOG or GOOGL as far as I know

>>17634217
how do i make money off this?

>>17634401
Casinos were hammered during the 2008 financial crisis. Discretionary spending goes out the window in economic downturns. This will be compounded by the fact no one wants to eat at buffets and sit next to strangers during a pandemic.
Friday was a bad day for them.
>Coronavirus case sends Nevada casino stocks plummeting
https://calvinayre.com/2020/03/06/casino/coronavirus-case-sends-nevada-casino-stocks-plummeting/
Sorry about crappy source.

>>17634868
Yeah I'm completely pulled out. Too much uncertainty now.

>>17634575
I agree, although do you really think inflation will hit 10%? Moroever, why wait until it hits 10%, why not work that market revival at 8% inflation? Even more beyond that, why use inflation as the trigger? Might it not be better to use consumer sentiment, or market crabbing at lows as the sign?

>>17634936
Safest way is to wait out the whole thing and go long once Corona is settled down and numbers are in decline in all economically important countries. You could buy inverse etfs or puts on the Italian exchange but that's more difficult and I don't recommend if you're not already very comfortable trading.

>>17634287

>>17633332
Can't SA produce oil and still make a [small] profit north of $25/b?

>>17634967
Scared money don't make money.

>>17634359
A part of me things the fed will buy corporate bonds, to avoid 0 or negative rates, and to kill 2 birds with one stone (stock market stability). If my hunch is right, what bonds would a guy go long on?

NEW NEW NEW NEW

>>17635013

>>17635013


>>17635013

>>17635013
>>17635013
>>17635013

>>17634884
>less than 10% stake
So no, buying GOOG won't get you in on SpaceX

>>17633225
Know any oil companies that might call it quits in the coming months?

>>17634600
It probably will or a few years from now. But Bitcoin is based on speculation, TA (because it's mainly traded by algos and algos controlling a 24/7 market makes it almost a pure TA market) and big boys with massive wallets which is why it's not a completely pure TA market.. but what is. Either way, Bitcoin is not sustainable at high prices and is definitely not healthy considering what it's suppose to be and the fact that it took people days to withdraw money when it was at 18-20k. But when (yes when) it pushes for new highs, you're gonna see something like Tesla but much faster and way more aggressive because the big boys won't just sit around at unsustainable prices, they will sell and withdraw it by buying into XRP.
Bitcoin is not some kind of recession proof safety heaven that you can buy and sit on during a recession, it's a living market of its own that will do its own thing and that includes tanking if a recession happens because people will pull out their money from it.

>>17634966
I said take action BEFORE inflation hits.

Your triggers for consumer sentiment or crabbing lows match mine, but what I'll really be looking for is helicopter money, serious talk of a UBI, or normalizing the yield curve (devaluing the dollar).

I think inflation will hit 10% and then quickly pass it. MMT is becoming mainstream on the left and the right because politicians can give their constituents whatever they ask for and the externalities are far enough removed that the voters can't put 2 and 2 together.

>>17634993

>>17635047
Do you think it will get to helicopter money in this crises? (I don't, not for the plebs, and especially not if Trump is in office. Maybe money for airlines and various businesses, but for the people...I'd give that a 25% probability with Trump. Do you care to explain further your reasoning?

>>17635060
holy shit..did not know it was so cheap to take oil from shale (and there's a shitload of shale in north america). That chart correct for sure? --even taking into account delivery to market? I would think if so, oil should just stay around $30.

>>17634777
lucky numbers... But..I'm shorting Marriott.

>>17635099
>even taking into account delivery to market?
Yes. It includes transportation averages. Rystad Energy ucube is a credible source.

>>17635204
OMG... if the virus reduces demand enough, we could literally see oil futures go into the teens for a very short time. fucking crazy

>>17634562
>>A fellow yinzer. Thats a rare sight.
It actually isn't. There are a lot of people from Pittsburgh on here. Likely because of all the universities.

>>17633907
>p-pls buy my bags, goy!
'no'