/biz/ - Business & Finance

How do I make money from options?

Buy Winn Dixie

Remember that this is the kind of retard giving you financial advice here.

>>17514629
Obligatory reminder that he is a Stocktwits PND shill.

>>17514668
Am I supposed to care?
although you appear to care very much

>>17514629
Based rortard meid

>>17514684
>t. definitely not snsstranny
kek don't yeet me with your melee weapons brah

>>17514637
Even still, the bad news is going to continue for awhile and I don't want to see my long-term portfolio continue to get fucked. Already had 6 mos of gains wiped out


>>17514603
>This sounds easy. It is not.

Why not?

>>17514684
>calling in reinforcements from your PND discord
Pathetic.

consoom VITAMIN C and ZINC to stave off this disease
don't get coronavirus and die; boomers aren't the only ones that will die

I was 100% right too my dad probably is getting the coronavirus lmao
fuck washington and fuck bureaucrats I just want to eat my pizza

CDC and HHS, CCP, WHO and all the others WILL NOT HELP YOU

>>17514691
>>17514700
you see him even when he's not here, you've posted that screenshot multiple times
your obsession with him is fucking weird dude, really fucking weird, get a hold of yourself anon.

>"Most people in the U.S. will have little IMMEDIATE risk of exposure to the virus," Messonnier (CDC) said.
kek they know this is going parabolic

How my Bobros? Hope you held those Friday short positions, never going to get those prices again

Can someone make an /optionsgeneral/

>>17514730
I have a two 3/20 spxs calls

>>17514742
just go to reddit if you want to gamble on options

we're all very serious boomers here. The no fun allowed get off my lawn types.

>>17514742
underaged please leave
you have a million resources on youtube to learn no one is going to cater to you fag

>>17514760
I'm 32...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcXSbCXxGzw

>>17514760
/biz/ and /o/ are the two boards where practically nobody is going to be underage. can't trade stocks if you're under 18

If you have ANY CASH AT ALL. Just buy anything right now. Just put it in stocks now. Fed going to cut rates so your savings account is going to be worthless.

>>17514791
That's why the tranny r*ddit discord that I sit in while daytrading, specifically so I can countertrade them, has 15 year old retards bragging about making le epic trades during math class.

>>17514716
I’ve never even talked about him.

Does he pay you to defend his reputation? Or is it like a you get his back he gets yours kind of thing?

>>17514742
There have been many options generals.

Go to the warosu archives and look for options general in the op or title post. You don’t get to be spoonfed but you can learn a lot by reading.

>>17514817
Yes, he gave me $20 upfront and $40 once i'm done.
But in reality, I am tired of you trannies destroying this general with your discord drama or what ever happened between you all

Was daddy graham right? should we really only have 50% max stocks and the rest bonds for steady gains?
backtest of 50/50, 70/30 and 100
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&timePeriod=4&startYear=2010&firstMonth=1&endYear=2020&lastMonth=12&calendarAligned=true&initialAmount=20000&annualOperation=1&annualAdjustment=1000&inflationAdjusted=true&annualPercentage=0.0&frequency=2&rebalanceType=3&absoluteDeviation=5.0&relativeDeviation=25.0&showYield=true&reinvestDividends=true&benchmark=VFINX&symbol3=BND&allocation3_1=10&allocation3_2=5&symbol4=VCLT&allocation4_1=10&allocation4_2=5&symbol5=TLT&allocation5_1=30&allocation5_2=20&symbol6=UNP&allocation6_1=2.5&allocation6_2=3.5&allocation6_3=5&symbol7=VLO&allocation7_1=2.5&allocation7_2=3.5&allocation7_3=5&symbol9=CAT&allocation9_1=2.5&allocation9_2=3.5&allocation9_3=5&symbol10=CSCO&allocation10_1=2.5&allocation10_2=3.5&allocation10_3=5&symbol11=AAPL&allocation11_1=2.5&allocation11_2=3.5&allocation11_3=5&symbol12=T&allocation12_1=2.5&allocation12_2=3.5&allocation12_3=5&symbol13=KO&allocation13_1=2.5&allocation13_2=3.5&allocation13_3=5&symbol14=LMT&allocation14_1=2.5&allocation14_2=3.5&allocation14_3=5&symbol15=INTC&allocation15_1=2.5&allocation15_2=3.5&allocation15_3=5&symbol16=JPM&allocation16_1=2.5&allocation16_2=3.5&allocation16_3=5&symbol17=NEM&allocation17_1=2.5&allocation17_2=3.5&allocation17_3=5&symbol18=VZ&allocation18_1=2.5&allocation18_2=3.5&allocation18_3=5&symbol19=MSFT&allocation19_1=2.5&allocation19_2=3.5&allocation19_3=5&symbol20=MCD&allocation20_1=2.5&allocation20_2=3.5&allocation20_3=5&symbol21=MRK&allocation21_1=2.5&allocation21_2=3.5&allocation21_3=5&symbol25=SO&allocation25_1=2.5&allocation25_2=3.5&allocation25_3=5&symbol26=NLY&allocation26_1=2.5&allocation26_2=3.5&allocation26_3=5&symbol27=RGLD&allocation27_1=2.5&allocation27_2=3.5&allocation27_3=5&symbol28=GIS&allocation28_1=2.5&allocation28_2=3.5&allocation28_3=5&symbol29=ABR&allocation29_1=2.5&allocation29_2=3.5&allocation29_3=5

pumpers gonna pump on monday, nothing can be done

>>17514668
I don't even understand why this is such a big deal, he was a felon 16 years old.

>>17514841
Interesting, but I don't understand how it's possible for something weighted heavily with bonds to beat the s&p 500. What is going on here?

>>17514641
Why? You got any if

>>17514866
just combining dalio's risk model of 10-20 good uncorrelated stocks / companies and grahams 50/50 bond ratio
so this has double the sharpe and sortino ratio of the Vanguard 500 Index Investor fund similar outcome, higher dividends and a max drawdown of -6.25% vs -16.31% for the people who get squeamish after -10%

>>17514866
here is the pie if you are interested
https://m1.finance/nSyWFAoaU

>>17514657
From 1926 to 27 the dow went up 25%, International Harvester and F.W. Woolworths are a BUY
>>17514862
Many posters here are felons, it's a costly signal for skin in the game (very good thing). Would you trust a soundcloud rapper without a face tattoo?

only people who buy meme stocks will be alive

>>17514918
>>17514896

This is interesting. Very impressive stable gains

>>17514924
>buy DJG
...but how?

>>17514942
You get 1 for every SPCE you own.

>>17514924
APT and SNSS?

>>17514960
I would say those are shill stocks. SPCE is a meme stock since it's like betting on crypto since 99% of it's value is speculation.

>>17514969
Oh well I have tons of that :)

Dead cat bounce on Monday followed by bloody red selling into close.

Super Tuesday will continue to sell off

>>17514629
What cheap short term puts should I buy? have like 50 bucks to play with.

>>17514997
that'll get you about 10 orders of mcnuggets

>>17514985
Based

>>17514997
Just by a low/no fee, no minimum mutual fund or cheap ETF

>>17514935
you can beat the market and have little downside, just need to pick good companies and sometimes less is more.
Here is 10 stocks with the 50/50 ratio alongside dalios all weather portfolio and the general market

https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&timePeriod=4&startYear=2010&firstMonth=1&endYear=2020&lastMonth=12&calendarAligned=true&initialAmount=20000&annualOperation=1&annualAdjustment=1000&inflationAdjusted=true&annualPercentage=0.0&frequency=2&rebalanceType=3&absoluteDeviation=5.0&relativeDeviation=25.0&showYield=false&reinvestDividends=true&benchmark=VFINX&symbol1=VTI&allocation1_2=30&symbol2=IEF&allocation2_2=15&symbol3=BND&allocation3_1=10&allocation3_3=10&symbol4=VCLT&allocation4_1=10&allocation4_3=10&symbol5=TLT&allocation5_1=30&allocation5_2=40&allocation5_3=30&symbol6=UNP&allocation6_1=2.5&allocation6_3=5&symbol7=VLO&allocation7_1=2.5&allocation7_3=5&symbol8=DBC&allocation8_2=7.50&symbol9=CAT&allocation9_1=2.5&symbol10=CSCO&allocation10_1=2.5&symbol11=AAPL&allocation11_1=2.5&allocation11_3=5&symbol12=T&allocation12_1=2.5&allocation12_3=5&symbol13=KO&allocation13_1=2.5&symbol14=LMT&allocation14_1=2.5&allocation14_3=5&symbol15=INTC&allocation15_1=2.5&symbol16=JPM&allocation16_1=2.5&allocation16_3=5&symbol17=NEM&allocation17_1=2.5&symbol18=VZ&allocation18_1=2.5&symbol19=MSFT&allocation19_1=2.5&allocation19_3=5&symbol20=MCD&allocation20_1=2.5&symbol21=MRK&allocation21_1=2.5&symbol22=GLD&allocation22_2=7.50&symbol23=MCD&allocation23_3=5&symbol25=SO&allocation25_1=2.5&allocation25_3=5&symbol26=NLY&allocation26_1=2.5&symbol27=RGLD&allocation27_1=2.5&symbol28=GIS&allocation28_1=2.5&symbol29=ABR&allocation29_1=2.5&allocation29_3=5

>>17515019
>https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1233794239349305344
ok that's pretty lulz worthy. never change china.

actually please change a lot, stop living like in medieval times. start washing your hands with soap and start refrigerating your food.

>>17514841
ewww bonds

>>17514846
Damned right. The audacious greed of bears holding short over the weekend. You had 15% in a single week ON THE INDEX and you're not taking profit? Madness.

Kek

>>17515120
That's cute but also not his fault.

What are you guys expecting monday morning? With the fed pumping it up before close on friday and the coronavirus news over the weekend I'm expecting the market to drill right down to the earth's core

>>17515123
Not entirely but he certainly did everything he could to inflate that bubble

https://northmantrader.com/2019/11/30/unholy-alliance/

>>17515123
By his own standards of the office yes it is.

>>17515133
fed will continue to pump, green

>>17514567
Have you tried The Three Body Problem?

Chinese sci-fi, but very good. Raises great questions about how to handle foreign relations. Like between China and the US.

>>17514546
>>17514512
Oh my god what a happy occurance I’m sorry I missed it

>>17514921
man, no one here served time for robbing a convenience store. Sometimes you can break the law and do some cool shit, but this is some hoodrat garbage shit. Risk vs. reward there is VERY stacked to the downside.

Would you want to trade with or against someone who does that type of thing?

>>17515133
overall flat, over sold stocks will bounce. calm before the storm, on account of super Tuesday

>>17515123

I need to learn how to get all of the credit and none of the blame for the US economy

>>17515167
Biden could do a thing... I wonder if Obummer is gonna still just sit on the sidelines?

Are we sure this retard is not an inner city youth?
Sound like he dindu

>>17514862
Literal niggers rob people at gunpoint and get away with it. You have to be really dumb to even try it and even more retarded to get caught. Would you really want somebody that brain dead moronic to have any say in your finances? Worst of all, he is a tripfag.

>>17515180
Obama aint endorsing biden

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obama-reportedly-warned-biden-about-2020-you-dont-have-to-do-this-joe

>>17515161
Against kekkies. I WOULD like to trade with some William Leonard Pickard type who gives absolutely zero fucks about the law of the land in his pursuit of visions and billions.
Three Body Promblem is Obama's favorite book! My friend who's big into chinar read it, been meaning to ask him bout it

>>17515142
>>17515144
>>17515180
Its literally not his fault and no one could have stopped it. Hes already tough on China too, if anything this gives him an even stronger mandate to tell China to fuck off.

>>17515210
>thinking trump isn't pro china

Got a 1,000 bucks for options trading? Any recommendations for puts or calls in the upcoming months?

Also anyone catch that new plague in ethiopia? Folks are bleeding from the eyes and none of the treatments that they are trying are working. Has corona chan mutated?

>>17515180
market will react to Sanders, not Biden though iMO. Obie is out, if he was going to back Biden he would have by now, and the commie wasn't chosen by the establishment. Trump victory priced in. Market will continue to climb on Trump train, until it doesn't(corona chan, global recession, or some other reason for the violent end to the iron bubble people have been itching for)

>>17515237
That’s just Ebola

>>17515210
Dude all the receipts are in the article.

Tou think he didnt know about all the overnight repos?

Do you not remember all the times he hyped up the china nothing deal phase 1 between 2018 and when it was signed.? They did some blatant market manipulation they way that shit was covered. Everytime there was a bad day "china trade deal imminent" and it shoots back up.

>>17515209
It's very good, torrented the audiobook then ended up buying the whole series on audible because IO enjoyed it that much
>it's obama's favorite book
bizarre! He and I don't have that much in common, only that I was also offered a position as a tenured professor but declined it for better opportunities.

He also really liked Parasite. I should see that.

>>17515198
That was a year ago and leaves a lot of uncertainty, but thank you for reminding me about it. I don't know, if it's between Bernie and Biden, maybe he'll just keep his mouth shut, maybe not.

>>17515241
>Market will not react to Biden
Market currently treats anything that reduces Bernie's chances as good. An election season of Trump vs. Bernie debates and the eventual election is NOT seen as a good thing for the stock market. The possibility that bernie could defy the odds would frighten any responsible manager of large sums of money.
>if he was going to back Biden he would have by now
good point
>commie wasn't chosen by the establishment
which is why obama, who is part of the establishment, may be forced to state his preference in the hopes that it would weigh favor Biden's chances.

>>17515285
Yea he said it a year ago but that article doesnt get written unless obama wanted to distance himself from biden

>>17515267
>repos
who cares
>china deal
If china doesnt want to deal we cant fucking force them, retard. Hes the only candidate that actually campaigned on being tough on China. You just want to see something that isn't there, what you say makes no sense!
>Hes just pretending to do a China deal because reasons!

Well, /smg/ how do you swipe?

ID color = futures later today
last 3 digits are how far +/- the Dow opens monday

>>17515180
>I need to learn how to get all of the credit and none of the blame for the US economy
Trump can be credited with keeping economy in good shape to some degree. He cannot be faulted for chyna bat sneezies.

>>17515167
I dunno that super tuesday is much of a big deal. Even if the bern wins his odds of putting up competive campaign against the president with his recklessly expensive platform are low. There's a reason Biden beat him yesterday.

Made three months worth of profit in two days trading options. I took the week off of work and seeing how well I can do as a day trader this week. Honestly, if I can get to like 25k in a month, I won't have to work for like a year.

Ironically, I only started trading stocks as a way to get money for traveling to different countries (travelling is something I'm passionate about but its expensive) and I made most of my money off of coronavirus, but now I don't want to travel anywhere anytime soon because of coronavirus.

>>17515285
You should read his thesis paper on Yeats, I forget where I found it. As many paranoid spiteful conspiracy theories I promulgate about him, he's one HELL of a writor.
>>17515330
There's a relatively solid case for faultimg Trump for his dovish approach to fed policy, market dip is more based on underlying anxiety of fed lacking tools to deal with it than actual impact on US in my opine :<

>>17515364
>faultimg Trump for his dovish approach to fed policy
Donald doesn't control the Fed, as much as wishes he could.

>>17515330
Inflating a bubble for political points osnt keeping it in good shape.

Repos matter to anyone who doesnt want bubbles inflated.

I dont think i blamed him for the virus but now that you mention it we were one of three countries to evacuate people after a quarantine was declared soooooo

And yea if you actually paid attention to shit you would remember what im talking about with the way the nothing deal was covered

>>17515370
If Trump actually controlled the fed, he would have implemented negative interest rates like Germany. This is actually a policy I don't really agree with, I think the best interest rate would be around the same as inflation. Negative rates I feel are a bad way to strong arm lending and stock buying, we should provide stock buying incentives instead. He did mention a 10k/year stock buying credit against you taxes, which I think would be much better.

>>17515370
He doesn't control them, but he definitely bullied them for lower rates. In public even! And now we're here with not much left 2 cut ;_;

>>17515401
Oh he is so horny for negative rates.

Retard man dont know how bad that would be, not just for america, but the world

>>17515330
I would agree with you if he didn't personally take so much damn credit for the stock market and economy. If you're going to take the good you should have to take the bad. But Teflon Don defies that law of equivalent exchange.

In reality, of course presidents don't deserve nearly as much credit/blame for the economy as they get, as their predecessors and the time in the cycle is much more significant.

When all is said and done, he didn't need to replace Yellen. If he wanted a rising stock market, she would've been a damn good choice.

>>17515364
Obama's paper on Yeats? wha?

>>17515413
>Retard man is so horny for negative rates
kek I don't hate the dotard but that's damn funny.

>>17515194
I mean, him shilling SNSS has already made me money, so there is nothing i can complain about. I believe that a person can change and be the best version of himself that's all.

>>17515379
>Inflating a bubble
Substantiate claim.

>>17515404
Fed still has one 2018 hike they haven't rolled back yet. There is room.

>>17515364
>>17515404
> market dip is more based on underlying anxiety of fed lacking tools to deal with it than actual impact on US in my opine
I'm afraid I must disagree. Trump isn't the one who created "the bubble" and he doesnt directly dictate the fed. The pull back is due to fear and impact of corona virus and the near total shut down of China manufacture, we have yet to feel the ripples which will take months, plus it will badly affect Q2-3 earnings. The rate is around 2.4% now, but Obama had the rate at 0.2 ish nearly his entire presidency, I actually agree with the fed in raising interest rates slightly though.


>>17515425
I think he can take credit, hes made a lot of good deals domestically and with other countries. He wants people t o stop holding cash in banks though. Barely half of people have money in the market and most of that is just through retirement accounts. Theres a lot of money on the table. And he wants those low interest rates so that its easier for businesses to take out loans. And he wants tax cuts on everything. I bet he would cut taxes even more if he thought he could get it passed.

>>17515463
Ctrl f unholy alliance

>>17515480
ur parents are an unholy alliance

anyone else hold docusign? chart looks super bullish and if theyre one of the first movers when it comes to utilising smart contracts in business they will surely be profitable

>>17515515
I mean if your not gonna read the article i posted i dont know why you asked for proof

>>17515465
Gains from tax cuts... boomer exit scam
>laughs in trillion dollar deficit

I guess gains are gains

>>17515425
I can't find the paper now :(
it was on reddit (icky) r/sorceryofthespectacle
>>17515463
I'd like a little more room!
>>17515465
Well yes, I meant anxiety surrounding china numbers too, not US manufacturing or something. Chinar will likely report 0% gdp growth for Q1 this year, pretty bad!

>>17515354
Any material recommendations for options?

>>17515627
>0%
Its going to be negative.

god i need a white woman so bad

>>17514918
>>17514841
Very interesting, thanks bro

Thoughts on these options, /smg/?

SPY $295 Put Exp. Mar 4 @ $6.78/share

SPY $310 Call Exp. April 6 @ $5.51/share

VIXM $23 Put Exp. March 20 @ $0.85/share

VIXM $19 Put Exp. March 20 @ $0.05/share

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/elon-musk-says-the-fighter-jet-era-has-passed.html

B-bros? Why is Elon trying to FUD on my LockheedMarties?

Also, have we gotten word on whether that dog with coronavirus presence "weakly" detected was actually himself infected? I kind of doubt it if we haven't found it in any others...

>>17515102
We took profit, what do you think the "bounce" late Friday was?

If the U.S. starts getting hit hard with the macarony virus, puts on health insurance companies might be a good idea.

>>17515687
Elon Musk buying Lockheed Martin for $420/share CONFIRMED!


>>17515669
>SPY call in April
Too soon
>VIXM puts
You dead, even if market recovers, volatility will remain.

>>17515687

last i've heard it seems they found environmental contamination in the body of the dog but there s no way to say the dog itself was infected

probably nothing

>>17515120
Trump has lost the Mandate of Kek

>>17515729
Dont worry, he will be making plenty of shitposts starting with Super Tuesday!

The global Coronavirus media blitz is spearheaded by the same people you folks around here surround with 6 parantheses. China and US finally agreed they had to stop fraudulently printing money to pump into their own markets (been going on for years now) to avoid massive realized hyperinflation on both sides.

Economic ceasfire, win win. Power consolidation opportunity of current regimes in power.

The biggest market crash in world history will be blamed on this flu, not our fraudulent fed pumping trillions of *poof*ed dollars into the market, creating the gigantic bubble that just started to pop.

Everything you think you know that you think they don't want you to know about this virus, they want you to know.

>China and US locked into battle of who's market make number go big big
>both sides printing and manipulating their currency to pump it right into the market, making numbers grow big big
>neither side blinking, but this will result in catastrophic realized inflation on both sides of it continues
>Trump and Chinese trump meet up, their glow niggers work out the details, and their markets decompress, with neither side fucking the other over (ie pumping their market while the others dumps, attracting investors)
>China regime gonna use opportunity to consolidate power even moreso
>Maybe even current US administration too

The virus isn't as bad as reported, the recovery will be swift, and both regimes will take credit for their part in ensuring our safety.

You got scammed. All of you. Every person on Earth.

>>17515167
>over sold stocks will bounce
No stocks will bounce?

>>17515716
Based

>>17515851
>China and US finally agreed they had to stop fraudulently printing money to pump into their own markets
>Trump and Chinese trump meet up, their glow niggers work out the details, and their markets decompress, with neither side fucking the other over (ie pumping their market while the others dumps, attracting investors)

Never ever in a million years would this happen. Game Theory wise, think about a prisoner's dilemma scenario, and then ask yourself "but what would I do if they were China?" Then ask yourself "what would China do if they knew I knew they were China?"

So if the stock market is actually a real thing, how come intel agencies don't use it to funnel money out of competing countries? Surely the FSB is sitting on a trove of insider info and they could make bank off of Germany and the US. If a bunch of anons could time the corona-virus impact and short the shit out of the market for gigantic profits, why can't a bunch of russian or chinese glowniggers?

>>17515915
Nobody wins if either start printing again, because as soon as US markets are uolo, chinks will be printing again, and vice versa. Don't use the phrase game theory if you cannot undertand basic logic.

>>17515928
?

That's why they would never agree to it. It requires mutual trust. The two parties do not trust eachother, and would rather inflate the bubble forever and risk it popping at any time than have it deflate under their watch.

buy the dip
market will be roaring higher by year end

>>17515926
I am sure they do. Trillions of wealth was lost last week, it is a zero sum game so it went somewhere.

In europe in many countries, the banks&their trading platforms have these certificates/trackers issued by major banks. Usually they have leverage, all the way up to fucking 20x. Naturally I bought $5k of those earlier last week when this meltdown started, now they're worth an absolute fuck ton.
Anyone has any experience in trading with these?
I am worried that the market maker will just stop buying and selling these, does it work like that? Or do they keep selling&buying them regardless even if the market tanks even more? How do they earn money by doing this?

>>17515963
Forgot to add I bought 20x bear against s&p500 for that $5k.

>>17515946
Imagine if the US weren't dealing with slavs and chinks, and they were faced with someone who could deconstruct their algos and then manipulate the market through signals while putting and calling through competing algos. It's an insane house of cards.

In fact, if they were really smart, they would not even look to make money, just to punish the US for its strengths. The more competitors can force the US in a position where it restricts freedom, the more they lower its status on the world stage, especially economically.

>>17515943
No it requires no trust. Both agree to bottom out to a certain price. If either of them betray, the other will instantly know, and they will both be right back where they started nobody wins by betraying

Dumb fucking nigger

>>17515928
cringe

Buy zn on Monday

>>17515987
>>17515994

The real conflict is for Europe ... Russians and chinks would love to get it out of the claws of the US imperialists and incorporate it in a future New Silk Road Wirtschaftsraum. And the current stress might be too much for the Euro.

>>17516012
I'm bullish on Europe. The worse things get, the harder the reaction. Let's not forget that all the lefty (in the 18 century meaning of the word) yuros went to the US because of muh freedom. The genetic legacy of Europe is right wing.

>>17516004
Cringe

It’s fucking brainlet night.

How many of you faggots were lured here by anon posting his gains on /pol/?

>>17515123
Ehhhhhhh.... should have just hard-lined and banned all flights to China market be damned, at least that way I could actually respect his actions here

>>17516023
triggered

>>17516026
I'm here cause I was dumb enough to buy Disney stock right now and thought you guys would be buying it too

>>17516021

>the genetic legacy of Europe is right wing

Hnnnng!! That aside, I assume we're in for a hell of a ride over here soon. Most big German companies are zombies today ... you cough at them and they'll literally fall over.

>>17515228
put it all in GALT 3/20 $3 calls

>>17516026
Easiest and dumbest people in the world.

What broker to trade puts as a European?

>>17516067
We had it good for a really long time under Big Daddy America. Plus WW2 was quite the tussle. Now America seems to want to go in a different direction, genetically speaking.

>>17516079
/biz/ is a /pol/ony now

>>17516021
Absolute state of amerimutt education

>>17516101
Look at general trends. "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses" is not referring to niggers.

>>17516099

Not only genetically. Personally know where I would like to go though ... US have no future, just like ancient Rome they've now become the slowly failing hegemony reduced to only reacting instead of acting. The future is somewhere else now ... you know what "Drang nach Osten" means? :D

>>17516139
>you know what "Drang nach Osten" means? :D
kek

>>17516151

Hey, not like anything could go wrong with this plan! :DD

>>17515926
>So if the stock market is actually a real thing
It’s a computer generated image of a wax simulacrum projected onto an imaginary dreamscape which you can only see as the light reflected on to a wall through the slightest of cracks in the cave you are confined in. It might even be realer than you.

You’ll get frustrated and leave once you find out that “get woke go broke” is not a sound investing policy.

>>17516139
That’s fucking disgusting don’t try to get me google your sick fucking German sheisse porn.

>>17516160
Well, Russian nobility has been Germanic up until 1917. It's time to return to tradition.

>>17516174

>It's time to return to tradition

You know I would be glad to ... uhm ... help them reestablish some of that lineage ... ;)
I've heard btw they've backed their shitty Ruble with tons of actual real gold over the last years.

>>17516174
Are you a "breadbasket of the world" guy kekkies? Eurasianism is appealing in a lot of ways :o
>>17516185
Russian gold reserves are mindblowing

>>17516172

>German

What did you just call me? A Saupreiß?! Geh in Oasch!!

>>17515209
>absolutely zero fucks about the law of the land
ever hear of a fella by the name of hill?
he doesn't know the territory...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ9U4Cbb4wg

>>17516122
I thought the Statue of Liberty was holding up a fried chicken leg
Sheeeeeeeeeit

>>17516191

I can imagine Putin likes to swim in it ... shirtless ofc! Oh well, currently it doesn't do much, likely they've just dumped it down some abandoned ICBM silo but I kinda can imagine where they think they'll be going with this.

>>17516185
Will I be allowed in chuvaks?

>>17516172
>You’ll get frustrated and leave once you find out that “get woke go broke” is not a sound investing policy.
I'll just chalk up the incompetence in financial warfare of the FSB to them inheriting the glorious legacy of the USSR. I'll chalk up the US' exuberance to them having to deal with starving slavs.

>>17516185
Them and the chinks too. I guess they're preparing for the collapse of the petrodollar. I hope Musk is "hedging" the gains he made in the last few years.

>>17516191
>Are you a "breadbasket of the world" guy kekkies?
no

>>17516060
Cope

>>17515142
he could have closed all international flights in January and we wouldnt have an problems, and the stock market would have rocketed

>>17516004
>>17516023
>>17516060
>>17516217

Quit the foreplay and fuck already!!

>>17514629
ANONS DO I LONG GILD OR QGEN WHICH ONE I HAVE LITTLE TIME

>>17516185
oh boy would I command her
fugg.

did you pick the name for this image?
It's been years since I played this game but I swear her name sounds nothing like that.

>>17516206
Germany and Russia should seriously have stuck with Kaizers and Tzars... then they could have a figurehead modern nobility like england instead of a joke of political leadership like... well england... and US, russia, canada, really most places I can think of.
...bulllish

>>17516214

>I guess they're preparing for the collapse of the petrodollar

>>17516213

Fren, for this you have to understand their mindset ... first, they are very proud of their shitty country yet they fully know how shitty it is. Figuring out that kind of doublethink is the first step. The second is vodka. And eating food that will give you a fat aneurism unless consumed together with lots and lots of vodka.

>>17516228
a modest proposal?

>>17515963
If there is no one to buy, or no money to be made, that is something you should take into account for any investment realistically.

>>17516243

>did you pick the name for this image?

Yup. Though the term has been originally coined during a lengthy discussion on Eastern European culture with a German anon.

>>17516191
>laughs in american

>>17516248

Kinda. The wordplay gets a bit lost in translation ...

ONTX CHADS WHERE YOU AT

Anons, you remember what it feels like when you finish an assignment ahead of time for school? Imagine 741.4 million people feeling like that.

>>17515963
Fellow europoor, can you give an example of those certs your are talking? Are those cfds?

>>17514629
if you think this is over, buckle up.
It hasn't even begun yet.

>>17516270
ya but Russia has a GDP notably smaller than Texas', it's crazy proportionally

>>17515963
If you are relying on a market maker to get out, the market maker will fuck you.
Market maker makes money by buying slightly below what they think is market price, and selling slightly above.

But of course you are at the mercy of what they think market price actually is.
May not even reflect whatever the underlying actually is.

>>17515963
Also the market maker is generally given privileges by the issuer, to convert between units in the fund & the underlying at will. It's a guaranteed arbitrage opportunity as long as they trade quickly enough.

>>17516270
>>17516344

Ok I am NOT fully into the intricacies of this but I also do assume that coverage rate is what counts here ... what I see as the Russian's main "advantage" though is that they are sitting on a virtually limitless stockpile of natural resources right in their Siberian backyard. They simply cannot access it as they lack relevant technology and know-how. Yet. That is why they are so crazy for European technology, in particular in heavy engineering.

>>17514668
He's right tho. His past says nothing about his current arguments. Ad hominem brainlet.

>>17516376
It's not tech, they lack a non-corrupt functional economy. And so their economic growth sucks. Too much corruption, politically & in business.

Pay attention to what phone you're buying

>>>/pol/245990464
lj

>>17516382
>sucking tripfag dick

>>17516376
Kind of, this >>17516387 is true. If you read Dugin (who doesn't necessarily inform their policy directly, just saying he's widely read) he's always going off about how Russia's massive land mass and the resources it contains makes them perfectly situated to endure for huge amounts of time, preferably as anglo-american ("Atlantean") hegemony crumbles. Also how he wants to destroy the Logos with black magic for the forces of chaos, not joking.
Russia has a super intricate and long history with their relation to corruption and oligarchs. I don't fully understand it but reading about how Putin's big breakthrough was bringing their top oligarchs to heel is wild to look into.

What NON AMERICAN gold and silver mining stocks should I buy?

Leaf here.

>>17516387

>they lack a non-corrupt functional economy

Yeah I did not address that since it appears to be an integral "design feature" of Russia! Though I have to say I see the big Western corporates approach the same level of shady shit by now ... here we call it "lobbying", over there it is the all-time classic suitcase full of Rubles. Same principle, only that different pockets are stuffed. Have to grease the right palms over here, have to grease the right palms over there for any bigger project. Post-Soviet incompetency on the administrational level is their true problem, not so much corruption if we speak in comparison. They lack proper mid-tier management staff who actually would give a crap about productiveness and efficiency. If all Russians would suddenly turn into German autists over night they would be unstoppable ... but as it is they won't achieve that much.

>>17516270
lmao he thinks that gold is actually there

>>17516281
Holding strong but hating the torture daily bleeds

>>17516480
>he thinks gold actually EXISTS
Take the final redpill

>>17516461
Osisko

>>17516441

>Also how he wants to destroy the Logos with black magic for the forces of chaos

Sounds like heresy if you ask me ... ;)

>Putin's big breakthrough of bringing their top oligarchs to heel

... which was the right approach. Though it was more about replacing the West-influenced first gen oligarchs with his own bootlickers. Problem being that he is still stuck with a bunch of incompetent bootlickers as a powerbase. I srsly think he wants to unfuck that situation in the long run but those bootlickers are the only thing keeping a tight lid on the hordes of vatniks and if they should feel "threatened" they'll just sit back and watch the anarchy unfold. So they have to be kept happy. Still, we also know that any oligarchs who get too greedy or disruptive might yet end up with a free Gulag holiday. Putin can still brute-force select projects with comparable efficiency ... problem being that once he puts his focus at one place elsewhere his underlings will simply resume acting like retards again. A bit like taking care of pre-school children ... very unruly alcoholics pre-school children.

>>17516270
when was the last Fort Knox audit?
30, 40 years ago?

>>17514985
no i don't think it's gonna bounce.
i think it's gonna open 3.5% down and plunge to 7% before coming up to rest and close out at 5.9%

>>17516534
>... which was the right approach. Though it was more about replacing the West-influenced first gen oligarchs with his own bootlickers. Problem being that he is still stuck with a bunch of incompetent bootlickers as a powerbase. I srsly think he wants to unfuck that situation in the long run but those bootlickers are the only thing keeping a tight lid on the hordes of vatniks and if they should feel "threatened" they'll just sit back and watch the anarchy unfold. So they have to be kept happy. Still, we also know that any oligarchs who get too greedy or disruptive might yet end up with a free Gulag holiday. Putin can still brute-force select projects with comparable efficiency ... problem being that once he puts his focus at one place elsewhere his underlings will simply resume acting like retards again. A bit like taking care of pre-school children ... very unruly alcoholics pre-school children.
Why doesn't this stupid country just free their fucking market?

>>17516606
Again, if Dugin's anything to go by there's likely a view that liberalism acts as a corrosive force in the long term. Might not necessarily be incorrect, it sure seems to have done a number on western Europe...

>>17516668
fuck sakes, you can have free markets without social liberalism

why do retards conflate the two?

>>17516606

>Why doesn't this stupid country just free their fucking market?

Because the first time it ended in anarchy (see wild 90's) and it would make them susceptible to the foreign influence of the current economic hegemony (meaning US). They'd end up like Europe ... castrated, dependent and not really better off in the long run.

>>17516695

You could ... but you won't under the current conditions.

>>17516711
>Because the first time it ended in anarchy (see wild 90's)
That wasn't a free market whatsoever, it was just massive statism

>and it would make them susceptible to the foreign influence of the current economic hegemony (meaning US)
No you idiot, it would actually grow their economy and make them not dependent on the petrodollar scam

>>17516695
It's pretty hard to argue that free markets aren't a major tenet of modern liberalism, can you think of a nation that values free markets while retaining traditionalist values? Maybe Israel? There's an argument for China or Singapore, but that's a little different.
There's a huge amount of evidence that prioritizing freedom in economics corresponds with a complex of incentives that directly leads to social liberalism. Look at former East Germany.

>>17516758
Who cares just do it anyway.
Why should people live in poverty just to avoid "muh degeneracy"?

>>17516773
I'm not saying it's how I'd run a country, but this is their mindset. I'm not here all up in arms about pol buzzwords lol, just pointing out that Russia views the west as having made critical mistakes that will severely impact their future. Russia's working off the back foot, they've had a rough century. If you were in their position wouldn't you want to try an alternative strategy?

>>17516750

>statism

My Russian boomer business partners would disagree (*cough* NATO agents installing "harmless" marionettes *cough*) ... don't mean they are right, just mean that is how the average Russian sees it (if he is not too piss drunk to even think).

>not anymore dependent on the petrodollar scam

The moment they implement a "free market" foreign investors will flood Russia like crazy. And yes, that means political agenda attached. See, the Russians do know about rape, they are quite the experts in it ... and they don't want a Western dong up their collective arse. Also would not fix the problem that they have nobody competent enough to deal with a free market properly.

>>17516758

You buy the package with all the extra features attached. No refunds either. As a leader you have one primary aim: keep your populace from rioting. In a free market you have to adher to a certain methodology to achieve this, you cannot simply go totalitarian, this ruins the "trust" required for a free market. So liberalism is inevitably attached ... not even going into the more ... subversive secondary reasons for this.

>>17516821
>The moment they implement a "free market" foreign investors will flood Russia like crazy.
Based, real wages and living standards will improve for Russia. You should abolish your central bank too.
Listen to the Libertarian party of Russia, I heard they're growing.

>>17516773

Since they'd likely be reduced to an Africa-tier resource exporting nation ... since that is the only thing Russia could currently contribute to a free world market. The average Russian would not really benefit from this, it would simply replace the current oligarchs with a new caste of businessmen.

>>17515327
Swiping right, my 20x reverse contracts already went up 1000% due to her.

>>17516840
>Since they'd likely be reduced to an Africa-tier resource exporting nation
You economically illiterate retards will NEVER fucking learn, holy shit.
Do you think current rich countries magically got rich overnight?
>it would simply replace the current oligarchs with a new caste of businessmen.
Who would, you know, actually increase real production instead of having your entire country be an economically unfree wasteland

nobody wants to invest in russia because it's a shithole and difficult to invest

>>17516834
> Listen to the Libertarian party of Russia, I heard they're growing.
Oh yes, they are

>>17516834

... if that is how the Ruble rolls then at least some African nations would be a paradise on Earth. It would allow for the growth of a certain select middle class in the big population centers as the share of the wealth is redistributed from the few fat oligarchs to a larger number of comparably skilled people ... but Magnitogorsk, Krasnojarsk, Wladiwostok will still remain frozen hellholes. :D

>>17516886
?

>>17516904
What? lol
If Russia had a free market they would turn into Singapore or Hong Kong

>>17516921
lol no. russia isn't a city state and even if it was it would be filled with russians

>>17516884

>Do you think current rich countries magically got rich overnight?

No, they historically could accrue a relevant number of specialists and technologies, becoming the dominant economic powers of our time. But now explain to me why I, as an entrepeneur, should invest into growing a caste of specialists in a country like Russia when globalization allows me to administer the whole shitshow with the specialists I have here while profiting from cheap Russian labor and resources? Because I am a humanitarian of some sorts?!

>increase real production

Oh here we sure do agree ... where we disagree is that most of the revenues would actually stay in Russia and help improve the situation of the Russian people.

>>17516921

>they would turn into Singapore or Hong Kong

... and all of a sudden you have some angry vatniks with yellow helmets protesting in front of the Kremlin. ;)

>>17516946
Economic freedom has made every nation that tried it thrive.
I don't know why you want to be poor when you could be like Australia, Switzerland, Ireland etc instead

>>17516406
another ad hominem faggot

Let's model the following black swan. Trump comes out and says the N-word. How much do markets drop?

>>17517084
A little bit but the outrage fatigue leading to less backlash than expected will be the big shitstorm there

>>17516281
is ONTX going to present anything at the cowen 40th annual health conference?

>>17517084
Nobody on wallstreet likes blacks either so it wouldnt do anything.

Anyone else find all these "TRY MY AMAZING INVESTING STRATEGY" and "THE MOTLEY FOOL BLAH BLAH BLAH" ads annoying?

>>17517403
ads?

>>17514629
TRUMP 2020

>>17517403
My irl friend thinks these people arent con artists

Hes down 80% on his account

soon

Well it begins.. Some nursing home in Washington state, 50 people are undergoing testing for the virus. Watch those numbers climb... One person from that state already died from it, now this.

>>17517572
let me guess, the casualty is an ancient person.

>>17517496
>>17517403
the best financial advise you'll ever get is not to pay people for financial advise.

>>17517496
Ouch
>>17517631
Amen

>>17514985
Based

>>17516073
why?

Ummm, guys.....

I just woke up and 3 more states have been added to the cases list.

>https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

>>17517648
just trust me bro,it'll go up this time. stocks can literally only go up. its free money

>>17517676
This but unironically.

>>17517671
that's good news. Stocks will get even cheaper

>>17517671
Emty bun, nothing to see here.

>>17517707
>>17517671

Why isn't the news covering this?

Do these fools just think not to check the CDC website? I was wrong it wasn't 3 more. There are 4 more new states added

>>17517717
>>17517671
I will admit I was a nothingburgerboi for the past few weeks and I still do think this is not a huge problem to my personal safety or for millions of Americans... but people are retarded and are panicing like crazy about it which does make it a happening in that sense.

I’m holding a bearish position but I’m fully expecting some FED fuckery to try and artificially pump the market. Don’t fall for it.

>>17517730
It's still in fewer than half the states
for now, just have plenty of food and don't let Chinese people sneeze on you

>>17517746
I know that, you know that, but the public is still going to freak out.

>>17517742
it already happened on friday

>>17517764
It's true
we need to give them a new distraction, something else to freak out about
maybe an ebola breakout or some minor war that spirals into WW3

>>17514629
How retarded would it be to buy puts on amazon?

>>17517746
>It's still in fewer than half the states
and one week ago it was in almost none of them.
>Chinese people
you're likely to get it from a 5th to 10th gen carrier by this point, the virus spreads so fast and easy anyone could have it

>>17515120
>BOGGED

Someone suggested going on warosu for options trading advice and I’ve been perusing the threads, came across this though, any idea what exactly he’s talking about?

This weirdo talk really tickles my nose the right way.

>>17517801
he's discussing about ripple.

>>17517791
Well if Turkey and Russia keep it up we might fucking get it. War sounds more exciting in the media than muh CoRoNaViRuS

>>17517810
Fucking banks are all over that one, but how are you so certain that’s the one?

>>17517795
They will follow the rest of the market, BUT they will deliver on next earnings compared to Apple because they basically do no business in China and Corona hasn't really impacted anything worthwhile in US/Europe yet so

>>17517849
first search for internet of value is ripple, the bank involvement makes it easy to hate, ripple initially got a shit ton of hate on here (justly so) for the involvement of the banks.

>>17517852
I read a wild theory on here that Amazon warehouses have Coronavirus, just in this thread a UPS worker caught Coronavirus due to the distribution center which handles packages... Amazon delivers packages.... Im thinking this could be big, might be nothing tho.

>>17517834
I have a lot of royal dutch shell in my portfolio so it wouldn't be so bad for me

>>17517795
Not that much. They would likely have some slip just from market indexing alone (panic sellers etc), factor that in with how much of their profits are driven by Chinese consumer goods, materials, etc from their own or platform sellers listings and you may see a concern. Our retail store has been down this week in sales too it seems (I haven't run the quantitative so take with a grain of black pepper) but definitely a drop for sure. Can't QE your way out of this one without an insane amount of market detriment.

>>17517895
Just read this at the bottom of the article:

“The Network Distribution Center does not handle letter mail - only parcels. No mail is delivered from the facility. It is sorted and transported to individual post offices, from which the parcels are delivered to customers. The employee in question works within the facility. The employee would have some contact with other employees in the work environment.”

If the Amazon warehouses do infact carry the coronavirus, how hard would it tank? I'm thinking you would make a crazy profit.

>>17517904
I don't deal with Amazon so perhaps someone else can answer his question?

>>17517863
These companies will do everything to delay information coming out, but if you’re right I hope you can capitalize.

I did plenty of research into XRP last year and found the institutional support of banks interesting, ig it’s just banks preparing themselves for the next big scam, huh?

>>17514806
>Buying Stocks right now
How desperate are you? How much have you lost? Poorfags. Shorting is the only viable move right now

>>17517951
Also reading that there is Intel HQ in that one.

I personally don't believe in XRP, but I bought some because I lost quite a fair bit of money on REQ (lol). Hoping it does a quick 2-3x and I can just sell it off into something better.

>>17517957
but what do you want to short?
where is rock bottom?
the most stocks and indexes took a nice 10% hit last week already

>>17517801
The crypto boom is over (in terms of new ones popping up), there won't be any new cryptos that will do massive pumps. Even during the crypto boom nothing even came close to rival BTC. Bitcoin will always be the main one no matter what, these kind of shill posts are just the same bullshit they've been spamming for the past 3 years now.

Like I said before, this is crypto in a nutshell for the big boys (a.k.a the money in crypto that matters).
>Bitcoin
The main one that they actively trade obviously, nothing else to add.
>ETH
Hedge to BTC. As a trader you're suppose to hunt for ETH shorts after a massive rally in the crypto market rather than BTC shorts because there's exchanges that will pay you TWICE a day just to hold an ETH short position. ETH also tends to dump more than BTC during a downturn even though they are correlated, this is also why ETH is a perfect hedge to BTC.
>XRP
The sole purpose of this one is for the big boys to dump their money they made from btc/eth into just to withdraw it. This is why it got added to the largest exchange recently aswell.

That's the crypto market for you. Everything else is just being traded with play money

ive yet to learn how to do options, is there somewhere I can really learn how to do it safely? I thus far have only been timing my entry and exit from the markets and that is about it.

>>17517970
Intel HQ in that one?

I’ll have to go back to research but if I had to guess which crypto was going to rise above the rest, it’s going to be the one with institutional backing, even if the tech is worse than in other coins.

>>17517991
I don’t think crypto is dead, just because it provides a better form of control than conventional FIAT does. I won’t argue this way or that because I don’t know for certain, but is isn’t BTC’s biggest problem it’s technology and settlement problem? The average consoomer can barely wait 15 seconds without getting impatient, and you want them to wait up to an hour? Surely there are better options?

>>17517977
I’ve got puts on MAR, LK, ASHR and calls on CHAD and YANG.

>>17518035
I was referring to the Coronavirus, not XRP. As far as I know Intel doesn't have anything in XRP.

>>17517957
Haha, imagine shorting whilst wearing shorts, but you're too short for your shorts so they look like shants but then you go to the short man store and you're short of money. Haha wouldn't that be funny.

Ready for monday, /smg/?

I'm short out my ass. Need spx 2700 this week. Am I fucked?

>>17518047

>>17517977
Short transportation stocks. Even if everyone was magically cured today, transportation will be all fucked up for at least a couple months.

>>17518047
I just wish I hadn't sold my SQQQ, got cold feet around noon.

>>17518047
but of course
gonna slaughter so many bulls we'll be eating Steak all year.

>>17518076
so UPS, Lufthansa, Airbus, United Airlines and so on?
sry if i ask so blund and stupidly...im fairly new to this

>>17518047
I’ve got a feeling that QE is going to fuck us Monday.

>>17518192
They're going to pull out all the stops. Whatever it takes. But that medicine will eventually kill the patient.

>holding overnight in this crazy time in the market

do you hate money or something? bears better cover or at least scale out if you're in the money, between panic and government intervention we're going to have some seriously volatile ups and downs, be careful not to lose all of your profits from a big gap. me? i just day trade, way less stressful, lots of money to be made during this volatile time.

>>17518035
I never said crypto was dead, I said the boom of new cryptos are dead. The speed of transfer is irrelevant to price because people can just sell into other cryptos in half a second and withdraw their money that way instead, without BTC the entire crypto market would die out because everything is pretty much hooked to its trading pair which is also the reason there's no point in buying anything other than Bitcoin for the long term and like we saw last year, when Bitcoin boomed a vast majority of the shitcoins stood still because people would rather want their money in the main crypto currency than in some sketchy low volume garbage.
The idea that there's new crypto currencies out there that will "change the world" is stupid, it's all a scam. I remember a chink crypto called TRON (TRX), they promised all kind of deals with the chinese government and chinese companies that would implement their crypto into the system.. all they got was a toilet deal at a local store or some shit. I mean it's just ridiculous AND they were in the top 5 for some time btw... which pretty much proves my point of calling it a scam.

>>17517957
Doubt. All the weak hands left the market left last week. If the 13% most rapid decline in a generation didn't shake them, they are not jumping out for a loss at this point. Anyone left is pot-committed they lost 13% already another risk of 2 or 3% isn't going to be enough because the FOMO of a dead cat bounce is too high.

>he understands the ploy Elon Musk pulled with smoking a blunt on live tv, throwing a rock through a "rock-proof"glass on an atrocity, etc. to get his stock priced super low before the take off
>he doesn't think the govt. could do the same with corona

N G M I

Should I sell my OGI?

>>17518047

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h81Ojd3d2rY

>>17518243
it still blows my mind that people would rather take on huge risk and pray they actually get in before a huge spike (hopefully in profit, but highly likely in loss), instead of just trading assets with high liquidity, tiny spreads (intraday spread on AMD is generally 1 cent) that actually follow the moving averages for the most part in generally nice, trending fashion. it's easy money but so many people would rather go for high risk high reward and then end up losing everything.

there are people in this very thread that would scoff at making a measly 1% profit a day, even though it adds up significantly in the long term. no, better put all my money in that penny stock or shitty crypto no-name coin that maybe one day will 10000% increase or some bullshit, it's ridiculous.

>>17518390
>it's all 5DD tiddies chess

Oh ok. Shit, why didn't I just trust the plan?!

FUTURES OPEN IN ROUGHLY 10 HOURS

>>17514657
>Buy Winn-Dixie
>Not Publix

>>17518416
Teach me anon? I want to know another path.

>>17518441
>not trusting the Bog's

This is why they dump every time you buy.

>>17518470
watch literally every video no nonsense forex ever made, take some notes, and do some backtesting and paper trading. it took me a year to figure this shit out, im not gonna spoonfeed you but i'll at least give you the place to educate yourself.

>>17518035
Speed isn’t important. Security is. IF SATOSHI WANTED BITCOIN TO BE FAST HE WOULDNT HAVE CREATED A DECENTRALIZED FUCKING BLOCKCHAIN HE LITERALLY SACRIFICED SPEED FOR SECURITY. Whoops caps like got clicked on but I’m not re typing it. Idk how you can’t see this though?

Blockchains aren’t supposed to be fucking faster than a centralized server. People think speed is the value proposition and it’s not. If someone tells me bitcoin will fail because it’s not “fast enough” I immediately know they haven’t had any introduction on the history of money. How educational system definitely doesn’t teach you Austrian schools of thought.

>>17518594
>How educational system definitely doesn’t teach you Austrian schools of thought.
Austrian economics is REAL economics and needs to be mainstreamed

Are you all ready to make some money this week? I know I am.

>>17518642
>>17518594
fun quote for you guys:

>Even in the days before perestroika, socialism was never a monolith. Within the Communist countries, the spectrum of socialism ranged from the quasi-market, quasi-syndicalist system of Yugoslavia to the centralized totalitarianism of neighboring Albania. One time I asked Professor von Mises, the great expert on the economics of socialism, at what point on this spectrum of statism would he designate a country as "socialist" or not. At that time, I wasn't sure that any definite criterion existed to make that sort of clear-cut judgment. And so I was pleasantly surprised at the clarity and decisiveness of Mises's answer. "A stock market," he answered promptly. "A stock market is crucial to the existence of capitalism and private property. For it means that there is a functioning market in the exchange of private titles to the means of production. There can be no genuine private ownership of capital without a stock market: there can be no true socialism if such a market is allowed to exist."
>—Murray Rothbard, in “Making Economic Sense” (2006)[45]
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_market#Importance

von mises is pretty cool, it's pretty neat to consider im making a fortune in the literal core defining feature of Capitalism.

>>17518699
it's weird to consider how many people out there work shitty minimum wage jobs, often multiples of them, barely getting by paycheck to paycheck, when i can literally just go into the market and pull out money like a fucking ATM. it feels so unfair but hey at least im on the positive side of that unfairness.

i mean imagine actually selling your time for like $8/hr lmao i would kill myself unironically.

>>17518594
Obviously security is essential, but good luck getting wagies/Normies/boomers et al, on board with your meme coin when visa (as far as they’re concerned) can do a much better and quicker job than BTC (or any other coin for that matter), why then would they switch?

A lot of people throw in with crypto to “rebel” against the system but once enough institutions come together to back the proper blockchain project, normies will finally feel “safe” enough to invest in it, and that coin will be able to break the records that BTC never could.

What the right one is, idek
>>17518243
Right, there’s no short supply of scams around.

>>17518705
also considering this it makes me a bit worried about people like bernie, a guy actually trying to kill the stock market with taxes and fees and shit like that. pay close attention to what the dems say about what they want to do with the stock market, now you know why they hate wall st and want to destroy it. something to think about.

Cannabis stocks are about to skyrocket in the next few years. The UN commission of narcotic drugs will have its most important meeting of the year starting tomorrow. The most interesting aspect of the meeting is the possible rescheduling of cannabis. If they remove it from the worst schedule into a better one, it will help many nations to start legalizing cannabis.
https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/commissions/CND/session/63_Session_2020/session-63-of-the-commission-on-narcotic-drugs.html

In addition to being a better alternative to alcohol, cannabis can also be used in the medical field. How big is the opium market? It's fucking huge and cannabis can take a big chunk of its market.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colorado-looks-medical-marijuana-ease-opioid-crisis-n1035541

Now that coronavirus is spreading and it can cause cytokine storms which eventually kill you, there is a possibility to treat the cytokine storms with cannabis.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2768535/

The cannabis stocks are fucking low and will probably go even lower during next week. IF the CND decides to reschedule cannabis then once the stock market starts going back up the cannabis stocks will skyrocket.

>>17518705
>von mises is pretty cool

>>17518768
I know you have no idea what you're talking about because your first paragraph suggests the UN has any legitimacy whatsoever.

I love our ridiculous President.

>>17515327
up up, down down, left right, left right

smg is so cringe on weekends, all the retarded anon trannies come out. ugh. so gross.

>>17518416
That's because of the "get rich fast" mentality that professionals warns people about. The reason for the stat saying "95% of traders end up failing" is because new traders put their money into garbage in hope of it blasting hundreds or thousands of percentages, which pretty much never happens and as soon as they lose their money they straight up quit rather than learning about actual trading and how to avoid getting fucked.

Like the saying goes
>"Investing/Trading is not a get rich quick scheme"

>>17518768
>in the next few years

nigga how the fuck do you predict what is going to happen YEARS in the future? why the fuck are you gonna put your money into something that you have to wait YEARS to see if you're right or wrong? how do you even have a risk set for that amount of time? or are you just going to go "well if in 5 years these cannabis stocks tank i guess im just fucked and lose all my money"?

investors just make no sense to me. day trade or swing trade, fine, DCA'ing over decades in companies with a strong economic moat and name recognition, fine. but taking a risky gamble that will take years to come to fruition, pass or fail? fuck that. fuck that shit. i knew the moment i read a stocktwits post by a guy who was in SGMO for over 10 years and was averaged at a price that is now higher than the current price, i'd never be an investor, certainly not in risky shit.

>>17518817
>Ladies and gentlemen, before I get to the economy, I just want to say that this state of the union is brought to you by Raid Shadow Legends.

>>17518873
I might die laughing if that happens.

>>17518817
literally personally helping small businesses.

>>17518845
get rich slow. start with the goal of just making enough consistently to replace your job with trading so you basically get to work from home. eventually, automate it.

i guess people aren't willing to put in the actual work to accomplish this, even though the reward is more or less a money tree, a goose that lays golden eggs. oh well, more money for me i guess. you'd think that potential would be enough to make people obsessively dump all of their time and energy into educating themselves and testing ideas out as much as possible, but i guess not lmao. people are weird.

>>17514985

I just got MAJOR deja vu from reading your post. It's fuzzy but I can recall you being 100% correct.

I'm sitting on 1 share of Nvidia and up $11 on it. Do I dump it at market open or see if it goes any higher first?

>>17518847
My prediction is far from certain but think this for a second. Legalizing a substance which can be used like alcohol and can be used to treat many diseases. There will be a demand for it and an economy will be formed around it and there will be companies who optimize the products and logistics. It's like buying stocks of a booze company when prohibition era ended in the US. You can't predict future but you can take a pretty good guess what's going to happen.

Daily reminder that you are a FOOL if you aren't buying now. Don't wait for the dip to bottom out, get in NOW.
2021 is going to be a bullrun the likes of which we've never seen before.

>>17518814
Even if UN does not have much legitimacy in general the scheduling of substances is still followed by many countries.

>>17518725
It's hard to take money seriously when you have some 45-year old secretary making 10€ after taxes.
But then how can you consistently make money in the markets? Are you not just another sucker not yet blown out?

>>17518959
>2021
plenty of time to short till then

>>17518949
i'd rather wait for something like say, a vote to federally legalize weed or something, and then buy in with the expectation that it passes. or wait until it passes and make money on the momentum upward. why put my money in now and wait a million years for something that might not happen. or even if it does happen, it might not happen for years, even decades, just way too long where my money isn't really increasing in value.

>>17518982
you have to learn how price moves in markets, how to read a chart. then you trade legitimate companies with a lot of volume like AMD or companies like that, or the /ES which is futures contracts following the S&P a.k.a. the market as a whole, with a ton of liquidity every single day. if i buy a single /ES contract and sell it for a 1 point move i make $50. consider how many hours you have to work to make $50 at your job, now compare to how long it takes the /ES to move that much. all you need to do is have the tools and knowledge necessary to decide whether to bet on it going up or down.

>>17518959
>Daily reminder that you are a FOOL if you aren't buying now

That's right little hamburger, get in the bag.

>>17518959
Buy slowly until the bottom, don't be an idiot and wait 6 months to a year to break even on your SPY

>>17519034
>people actually buy when the price of the asset is decreasing on average
>"man i sure hope it doesn't go down too much further before going up!"

people actually do this, jesus fucking christ. these boomers deserve everything they get from this crash.

>>17518959
DCA DCA DCA

we are only down 10%, this might cause worldwide recession

>>17519046
This, we had 2018-2019 decline because of worldwide growth fears and the system just started to take a shock.

Even if modern countries can contain the virus, which isn't a certainty, you still have to deal with:
Mexico
Brazil
Middle East
Egypt
South East Asia
India
etc

>>17519148
I think Carona virus is priced in now.

>>17519177
It's a month late, they priced in where it should hav ebeen a month ago before it got to this point

>>17519177
That's what you said on the 21st you stupid nigger. Hang yourself.

>>17519177
nigger be short at the bounce, or youre going to learn a lot of hurt.

you know what i realized. anon trannies have tripfags blocked by their specific trip. but im just going to change the pass by a number/letter each time to make some fags seethe lmfao.

>>17519177
Strap on in boys

yeah im thinking im based

test test test

priced in xd

test test test 1 2 3

>>17519177
It's mostly priced in. This is when you begin to DCA, for the next 8-12 weeks.

What really got me to sell everything on friday was how everyday at opening my SPY was -3 to -5%. It was not like individual investors wrangle in the market, but it was a discrete massive dump at opening, such that it didn't matter what happened during the day. So the people doing the dumping must have massive stacks, are likely organizations/institutions with some information advantage. I regret not selling on monday, I believed the "buy and hold" for too long. I was +20% (bought in in summer 19), I sold at +0.4%. At least I'm pretty certain it will go lower.

>>17516389
never understood the appeal of those screens.

another downside is that they are less private, people looking at your phone from the side might figure out what you are doing.

why would there be a flood to us bonds which have a positive rate and also a flood to japanese bonds which have a negative rate? why these two markets in particular? are they expecting deflation in japan?

>>17519270
Yes, the great market prices everything so accurately. Which is why we had a -10% haircut on something extremely predictable weeks ago.

1 2 3 testing 1 2 3

>>17519298
Market gained 600 points in the last 30 minutes of trading, and ZM tanked throughout the day. Institutions are bored and frustrated with the virus at this point.

3-4 red days next week, 1 green day. In to 12 weeks that will be reversed, and will progressively get closer to that reversal each week. It's time to DCA broadly, and once we reach the point of seeing 80%+ green days in a week you can begin to play whatever game you wish to play.

>>17519333

>>17519270
It's priced in but they are stalling the normal correction that goes on top of it. DNC doesn't want the economy number up during an election year. If they lose they will have to say they couldn't defeat literally Hitler.

>>17519348
you know, there's a report button

new test 1 2 3

>>17519323
The virus infects roughly 3% of the people it comes into contact with(before safety measures were put into place) and kills less than 2%, almost entirely sick and old people. We've seen the worst in terms of fear, China is already opening up production again in my areas.

Of course I agree that you can't time a market, but we've escaped the most volatile part of this so DCAing into the future is reasonable.

>>17519371
LMFAO IM MAKING THE ANON TRANNY SEETHE, SUCCESS. I FIGURED IT OUT FAGGOTS. NOW YOU WILL NEVER CENSOR ME. SUCK ON MY FAT JUICY THROBBING COCKERINO. KEK.

>>17519366
You only think it's stalling from a day trader perspective

>>17519346
Is how I see the market behavior playing out over the next few weeks/months

>>17519391
RETARDED FAGGOT UR GOING TO LOSE EVERYTHING IF YOU THINK THIS IS A DIP. LMAO

>>17519391
Many areas*

Oops

Is a 300 person outbreak in Washington going to do much to markets?

>>17519420
>>17519420

new thread

>>17519420
>>17519420

>>17519420

>>17519420

>>17519346
>Market gained 600 points in the last 30 minutes of trading
Where can I see that?
What is ZM?

> Institutions are bored and frustrated with the virus at this point.
Maybe they are, but they are not able to restart the Chinese economy.

>>17519391
>The virus infects roughly 3% of the people it comes into contact with(before safety measures were put into place) and kills less than 2%, almost entirely sick and old people.
Lots of people are trying to apply common sense to this, while you actually do need some subject matter knowledge to understand the situation. One place that is neither a politician trying to preserve the calm nor the media trying to sell fear is https://www.nejm.org/coronavirus.. While they mostly show academic neutrality, one author also states:
> With luck, public health control measures may be able to put the demons back in the jar. If they do not, we face a daunting challenge equal to or perhaps greater than that posed by the influenza pandemic of a century ago.

>>17519391
>infects roughly 3% of the people it comes into contact with
where did you get this dumb shit?

Sup /smg/ I am a guy in my late 20's that works a very easy job (most of the time) with a pretty decently disposable income. I usually save money until I get bored and then I go buy something nice or out it into some stonks.

Lately I have been wondering if I should just throw all of my disposable income into some options and.see how loaded I can get.

Good idea?

>>17519391
3% of the people in comes into contact with.

That explains the mass super spreader events.

>>17519422
>300 person
>in Washington

Anon, it's everywhere by now...

>>17519410
Anon, I'm an American, my bear strategy is my tightly knit rural community and our stockpiles of weapons and resources.

>>17519439
>>17519434
The gooks tracked 2248 people(100%) that had contact with an infected person, 2.8% of those people got sick

>>17519438
just buy stocks

>>17519457

P0 has contact with 2k people
Infects 2% of them (40 people)
Those 40 people contact 1k people each
(Before symptoms show / isolation)
They infect 2% of them (40*20 = 800 people)
Those 800 people contact 500 people each
Keep going assuming the number of contacts halves each time and you get this propagation of new cases:

1
40
800
8000
40000
100000
125000
Etc

That's a best case scenario where you probably end up with at least half million infections

>>17515465
>The rate is around 2.4% now,
rate of what sorry?