/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17475150
So basically hold cash and wait for the bottom

>>17475200
trade options, short stocks, buy precious metals
that is halal afaik.

>>17475150
Peace to you brother.
And an anime harem!

>>17475307
how big does my portfolio need to be to get a sizable harem? what's the dollar to concubine ratio?

>>17475219
Why would options be halal but futures be haram? Enlighten me, brother.

>>17475812
Options are just insurance policies basically.
Futures are bets because you aren't saying "i'll buy the right to sell/buy your stock", you are saying "I will buy/sell this stock at this price".
also >>17475219
aparently shorts are considered haram by some (most?) scholars. please forgo shorting as well to be safe.

Allahu a'lam. Allah knows best, what I have said incorrectly is because of Allah, whatever errors I have made is because of my own flaws.

>>17476341
>what I have said incorrectly is because of Allah
what I have said correctly is because of Allah

>>17475150
fuck you normie, ill short you 100x

>>17476364
I haven't gone public yet.

>>17475150
nice dress you fucking homosexual, did you know muhammad worse aishas clothing too?

muslim scum

>>17475150
muhammad was white

>>17475150
Ahmed got fuuuuucked up. Do NOT blaspheme Jesus Christ.

>>17475150

>>17475150
Mahshaallah brother

>>17476569
bad things happen to good people
>>17476555
"white" doesn't mean caucasian in arabic.
>>17476527
look at this man. He is comfortable, and has not tightness around his private parts. Compare to a western "man" wearing skinny genes.

>>17475150

>>17476341
Allah would not forbid shorting because Allah loves the truth. Shorting is in a way profiting off the reversal of lies and the return to the true market value of a position.
Shorting is Halal and Allah would short if he were a human.

>>17476747
>Shorting is in a way profiting off the reversal of lies and the return to the true market value of a position.
A lot of scholars say it is haram because you are selling something you don't own yet and you don't know when you'll own it.

Stocks are not halal because you are buying companies with debt, which is buying debt by proxy.

Not halal.

>>17475150
some kind of god of war gamer

>>17476884
What if they have a net cash position?

>>17476884
>Stocks are not halal
depends on the stock
>you are buying companies with debt, which is buying debt by proxy.
If you are buying a company that generates the vast majority of its revenue through halal means it is considered halal. But if a company does haram sales and has high debt maybe stay away.

>>17476555
>>17476527
You said white.
You’re a racist

>>17476862
>A lot of scholars say it is haram because you are selling something you don't own yet and you don't know when you'll own it.
Those brainlet retards trained in Saudi madrassas don't even understand what shorting is. When you short you are selling X stock now and promising to buy back X stock in the future for the person. You technically own it from the second you short it you just don't know the price you will pay for it until you buy to cover.

Your argument makes sense for options, as it's pure speculation. However shorting is a return to the truth and Allah loves the truth. Go ahead and listen to Saudi trained Imams that know nothing other than what their Imams before them taught them.

>>17477364
You think this offends me?
I’m living in a white country and that hurts you more than you can ever hurt me.
Disappear loser :3
Post your pictures but I’m gonna keep living here.

>>17477402
lmao you are so mad :^)

>>17477340
>Your argument makes sense for options, as it's pure speculation.
By that logic health insurance is speculation because you don’t know when you’ll get sick
>>17477426
It’s your sin not his lol

>>17477522
seethe and cope :^)

>>17477556
I’m not mad. You’re racist so you’re mad. I don’t even hate you.

>>17477593
lmao you are so mad :^) put a smile on that face :^)

>>17477522
When you buy health insurance you are paying each money to have access to a service, the service being healthcare. You have access to it if you pay whether you need it or not.
When you trade in options you are buying contracts that give you the right to buy/sell at whatever prices. It’s speculative and nothing more.

>>17477606
Okay dude. Don’t worry about it. You’ll be fine.

>>17477607
Agree with this. Options seem wrong

>>17477593
>>17477606
To be fair Islam is not a race it’s a set of ideas and tenets that are freely held by people. Also to be fair there is no need to insult the guy who came to ask about investing in context of Islam. It’s an interesting topic and I am Muslim myself (progressive/ moderate if you haven’t guessed ).
It’s more of a cultural thing, but I get the best of it, being a devout wife who will raise my children while at the same time indulging in the profits that are generated in the west through markets. And I do trade options, I don’t care if some uneducated imam calls it haram, it’s an insurance policy and insurance is not haram.

>>17477651
seethe and cope :^)

>>17477657
stay mad lmao :^)

>>17477657
Do you ever short?

>>17477685
seethe and cope more i am loving it :^)

>>17477685
I am literally nothing but short/cash for the past 3 days with majority in short. Making a killing on the correction.

>>17477707
What do you think about crypto?
I’ve been wondering if it’s safe to stay in it or not for this

>>17477707
>>17477721
stay mad :^)

>>17477721
I know absolutely nothing about crypto, I’m a boomer ( at heart not literally ) so I stay out of crypto and invest/trade NYSE.

>>17477753
Breh you’re not making me mad. I came to the realization that Muhammad was a warlord who wrote/said what he needed to in the moment to defeat the Meccans. I know the religion is founded on a moral sham HOWEVER I also believe that for family values it’s one of the healthiest religions around. And as I want to have kids in the future you better believe I pretend I’m a serious Muslim and will be marrying a devout believer.
I am culturally Muslim so a lot has stuck but I am intelligent enough to see what was going on with Muhammad once I began to educate myself on the history without the aid of Imams.

>>17477759
Oh I see

>>17477798
Don’t bother with him. He’s a teenager or something

>>17477798
>Breh you’re not making me mad
lmao you are so mad

>>17477823
stay mad :^)

i'll be here for the entire thread. there are infinite images of people shitting on the quran and drawing mohammed (piss be upon him)

:^)

>>17477823
I would stay out of crypto. Yes you can hit it big, but it’s more gambling than anything. It’s really based on speculation fundamentally as you are just speculating on which coins will have the most use and/or which coins will generate the most hype and thus command better prices.
At least with regular markets you can attempt to form a hypothesis as to why something would gain/lose in value. You can come out with objective measures of value ( PE for example )

>>17477884
If the coins actually have a use then it’s actually investing in the technology isn’t it?
Just like with Tesla.
It’s just an early stage

>>17477884
>>17477944
stay mad you fat slime cucks :^)

>>17477607
>each money to have access to a service
But you’re not making a deal with a hospital you’re making a deal with a company to make a deal with a hospital and you’re paying them as a way of lowering the risk of how much you’ll pay.

>>17477798
It might be great for family values, but labeling yourself a Muslim without practicing is dishonest and shameful display.

t. ex-Muslim. I admit I feel lost now without Islam, but at least i'm facing reality now instead of hiding in an illusion.

>>17477857
nobody cares zoomer

>>17477988
>nobody cares
>responds to me
lmao you are so fucking mad :^)

There is no such thing as an ex-muslim.

>>17478042
it's called taqiyya. 100% of mudshits are lying niggers

>>17478042
This. It's just chuuni rebellion

>>17475150
you can trade on margin but youre not allowed to pay interest

>>17478077
How can you trade on margin while being 100% sure you won’t interest?

>>17478120
Pay an islamic bank a fee to cover your interest, because Allah(pbuh) was wise and merciful enough to let us bypass his law on technicalities.

>>17478077
>>17478120
>>17478059

>>17478169
Meme it up all you like but Islam is 4chan incarnate.

>waifu centric
>likes the loli
>keeps women in their place
>hates kikes
>hates faggots
>hates degeneracy
>uses niggers and poos as slaves, does not try to integrate them into their society

>>17478231
sorry mate i don't believe in sand nigger fan fiction

>>17477988
I don’t really care if it’s dishonest. If there is a God ( and I believe there is, but Mohammed was a fraud ) then he will understand why I did what I did and will know that I did it for the benefit of my children.

>>17478253
If you are a christcuck then you already do. I live in the UAE. 90% of muslims here don't actually believe this shit. They just go along with it because the benefits of the culture are fantastic. It's one big meme and a giant fuckoff sign to whatever is trying to subvert their society.

What's an actual downside of Islam?

>>17478320
>If you are a christcuck
i already said that i don't believe in sand nigger fan fiction, retard

>>17478335
>17 posts by this id
Somebody here is retarded and it's not the dunecoons worshipping a moon rock.

>>17478335
So you believe in steppenigger fanfic? Or better yet fedora fanfic?

>>17478367
>>17478381
stay mad :^)

>>17478393
You didn’t answer the question

>>17478463
lmao you are so mad :^)

>>17476895
>>17477009
lmaoo seeing this guy so triggered with any sliver mentions of islam amuses me.

source: i am one kek

>>17478916
seethe and cope :^)

>>17478928
> seethe and cope
dont you see.. we are laughing AT you lmao

>>17478973
lmao you are so fucking mad :^)

>>17478982
pffft, keep hoping lmao

>>17479012
stay mad lmao :^)

>>17476884
Buying decentralized systems with no debt n no owners that will eventually unlock the Jewish control of everything is 100% Halal

Invest properly and invest in coins that will eventually help humanity, no LARP brother

Tachyon tries to prevent transmission efficiency inorder to have a massive information broadcasting network such as blockchain.

>>17475334
Where in the world are you, brother?