/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17466922
omg i really didnt see this coming.

when i listened to his 200 rallies during his campaign i really really really thought he demonstrated adequate knowledge on any of the 300 things you have to be overly educated on to be president.

>things take a shorter time to destroy than they do to build
who knew

>>17466922
Yet you can’t name what policies actually got us out

>>17466922
> Obamas economic policies that brought us out of the recession.

name one

>>17466922
>brought us out of the recession
prolonged the recession and dampened the recovery
>fixed for you

gave billionaires tax cuts and we are back to trillion dollar deficits after he said he'd pay down the debt. fucking fraud

>>17466922
Yes some disease from China is Trumps fault
If it weren't for him there would already massive outbreaks here, his quick closed border policy bought us time to prepare

>>17467041
this

>>17467193
Not only that the trade war started some companies bringing manufacturing home. This virus will certainly get other companies thinking a different strategy than relying on china.

>>17466922
Oh, come on, don't be a faggot.
You know that Obama fucked America with all the bailouts and the zero interest rates.

>>17467000
>>17467037
>how do graph work

>>17466987
This.
It will forever be the greatest mystery of my life, not understanding how so so so many people fell for someone who was so blatantly stupid.

>>17467333
now do it by control of the house
>the section of the branch with the power to write laws

>Success
That's because of the Democrat who laid the groundwork

>Failure
That's because of the incumbent Republican

There are actually people who conceive the world like this, over decades. Imagine being so simple.

>>17467333
>not understanding how so so so many people fell for someone who was so blatantly stupid
>blatantly stupid
peas of a pod

>>17466987
>when i listened to his 200 rallies during his campaign i really really really thought he demonstrated adequate knowledge on any of the 300 things you have to be overly educated on to be president.
Smart business people know how to delegate and won't spend time learning those 300 things in great depth.

>>17467333
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JnJP2KmPvs&list=PLuSZeBkVH1U8K8fkDRL5728_7Fgqeyy8D&index=7&t
Excellent 5 minutes.

>>17467333
Get bent low IQ

>>17467639
Ford, for example.

>>17467037
>import South america
>free shit
>???
>booming economy

Fuck that nigger and his tranny husband

>>17467639
Dude, he got on stage every night and proved with out a shadow of a doubt that he didn't know what the hell he was talking about.
His ideas were basic as all hell and showed a serious lack of understanding.

You think he knew who our allies and enemies were?
whats going on in the middle east?
current laws?
He pretended to like God, guns, and the military to trick people he believed were stupid.

And the insanity was only surpassed by what his OWN cabinet members leak constantly.
that he wont read intelligence briefings unles you put his name in every sentance, he gets butt hurt when they try to explain simple concepts to him because he doesnt want to look dumb, and he is "a fucking morong" who has "the understanding of a 4th grader"

How is this any where near controversial or mysterious to Anyone is beyond me.

>>17467333
That doesn’t answer my question about what policies actually did anything to improve the economy.

>>17467193
Honestly this, I’m fully in support of the China tariffs after this shit.
Trump tried to warn us and everyone complained.

>>17467651
He is the king of political commentary

>>17467639
95% of the presidency that actually affects you and me is about solving for tragedies of the commons, not capitalizing on them

A president who delegates like a CEO cannot bank on individual profit incentive creating organizational spillover. They can expect to hire a bunch of career-minded experts who will soak power and wealth into their individual specialization and effectively, albeit largely unknowingly, grift the nation just like Grant’s cabinet.

The idea that corporations and nations run the same way is so fucking retarded. How do you people miss that like 75%+ of the nation is so far divested from corporate planning or incentives that you can effectively argue they don’t belong to a corporate structure (or at least wouldn’t with sensible monopoly laws that take regional saturation into account)?

Oh yeah, you’re as dumb as the orange man.

>>17467931
>The idea that corporations and nations run the same way is so fucking retarded.
Every human interaction is a business transaction, whether you like it or not.

>>17467931
Its even worse that.

An actual smart competent leader who was a CEO im sure can do great.
IF he ACTUALLY gets good people around him. IF hes ACTUALLY competent and smart.
Trump is no where near any of those things.

People somehow still confuse the fact that he was born a rich kid, raised a rich kid, and has lived a life of everyone kissing his ass with no push back.
He doesn't understand consequences. He has convinced himself that hes intelligent, because everyone told him he was.

And the darkest side to all of this is the question to what happens when you have someone who is a narcissist who is completely against checks and balances and checks on power, who attacks the media, judiciary, puts fear in his own party, and makes lists and attacks all who are not loyal to him, in the most extremely fragile system that exists?

>>17466922
>monetizing a shitton of debt (printing money) to bail out banks giving shit loans
>brought us out of the recession
check yourself for brain damage please

>>17467999
Big yikes. Every interaction is an application of game theory but you’re dumb as fuck if you think this simplification accounts for the totality of moves, incentives, and systems in any given game or reckons all games themselves to equality.

I can counter your whole argument in one word, but you won’t be smart enough to understand how completely this eclipses what you’re trying to say: Suicide.

Following that, take your 105 IQ and drive off a ledge.

>>17466922
It took 1 bat virus to undo 3 years of trump policy.

>MOM I'M TIRED OF WINNING

>>17466922
Don't worry anon his brain is fucking shot. Medfags I know give him two years and that's life not mental coherence.

>>17467368
>implying Congress has written any substantial laws in the last two decades
Even the ACA was a neutered runt

>Presidential policies
>make the economy run good or bad

>>17468025
He’s a sheltered individual with an undoubtedly maligned psychopathology, but I doubt he’s a narcissist in the clinical sense. He’s such an outlier in life experience that standard behavioral diagnosis probably does not apply. This will become a deeper problem if inequality continues on its trajectory, as mental illness of all variety is socioculturally bounded.

>>17468129
>the head of the snake
>not part of the zeitgeist
yeah kid, the answer lies somewhere in the middle, right?

>>17468062
>I can counter your whole argument in one word, but you won’t be smart enough to understand how completely this eclipses what you’re trying to say: Suicide.
You sound like someone that belongs on iamverysmart. You made zero LOGICAL arguments.

>>17468152
only FED matters

>>17468181
Lmao, 10k reddit gold says you don’t even know the difference between modus ponens and modus tollens.

Go ahead and look them up, I’ll wait. Your lack of understanding is not the same as a lack of presence. I wish you middle IQs would just die instead of demonizing anything that goes over your head.

>>17468221

>>17468136
he is the text book definition of a narcissist dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNYZYxLSgPQ

>>17468136
Narcissists have to be liked and actively seek being liked; Trump routinely kicks the proverbial beehive. Whatever he is, a narcissist ain't it.

>>17468252
Holy shit thats a funny thing to say.
Trump has 1 and i mean 1 TEST for all people.
"Does he like me"

>>17468251
Holy shit thank you I was worried I’d have the cringiest post in this thread.

>>17468279
Watch the video numb nuts.

>>17468277

Narcissists actually care whether the answer is yes; Trump just changes up how he treats them.

>>17468380
No dude, don't confuse his obvious psychology.

leaders around the world, and in our own country have figured this out pretty easily - Pretend you like him - he will defend you.
Suggest you dont like him, and with his thin skin he will do anything to get back at you. thats why he engages in year long twitter feuds with nobodies.

>>17467723
Obama deported more people than Trump. Your boomberbrain has dementia.

>>17468418

Bending the knee as both Koreas and Britain and Mexico and Canada and Japan have all done isn't equivalent to pretending to be nice to him. All the countries that Trump has concluded productive talks with have been countries that already had a prominent US trade presence and all featured one thing in common: the non-American party capitulated, on basically everything.

Did he build a wall yet?

why are people surprised? The markets have done well under Trump in spite of him, not because of him. The main thing that has driven this bullrun and covered up all the weaknesses of our economy was the 2017 tax cut that Trump gave corporations and billionaires that allowed these major companies to buy back tons of stock and artificially inflate their value.

Okay NOW it is Trump's economy

>>17467041
100% this,

Obama lied more than Trump, never brought to the law any of the people responsible for the 2008 derivative & housing crisis, even though that was his main 2008 campaign promise.

the job recovery was bullshit, it was just millions leaving the workforce and others being forced to work in shitty jobs, hence them no longer being counted as unemployed.

he even screwed the general black population by shutting down factories and creating conditions that led to murder increases and gang wars

Obama was objectively the worst president in US history

>>17468423
Obama reworded Deportations to include people turned away at the border.

>>17468477
No man, you're complicating the incredibly simple. And you're giving him Wayyyyy to much credit.
You act like he knows what hes doing, or has a plan.

You can fuck Trump in the ass, but just pretend you like him and talk highly of him, and you're fine.
He is literally incapable of talking shit about Putin, and Xi, and Kim Jong because they said nice things about him.
Every world leader has figured this out.
Some use it to their advantage, and some dont care and poke him anyways.

>>17468514
it blows my mind whenever anyone suggests that trump has 1/50th the knowledge obama has.
and i mean 1 - 50th.

>>17467193
hey retard, was the inverted yield curve of 2019 before or after the coronavirus outbreak

>>17466922
What policies has Trump reversed recently?

I thought you leftists were crediting this boom during Trump's presidency to Trump continuing Obama's policies, but now that the market takes a dip for a few days, you suddenly say it's all Trump's policies?

>>17468510
This. The cherry picking is unreal. That said; these market cycles don't have much to do with presidents anyways, there are too many other, greater, forces at work. An 11+ year expansion was going to need a pull back sooner than later anyways. Look at an 80 or 100 year chart.

>>17467333
>still can't name a single thing Obongo did

>>17468999
really dude, were goign to waste time on this?
here ill give you a few form the top of my head
-Saved the entire auto industry
-Obamacare ended up being a jobs creator
-had some of a wallstreet bailout
-revived the inheritance tax
-had tax cuts on 2 occasions

Like him or not he quite LITERALLY stopped a great recession. We were in hugeeee fucking trouble when Bush was leaving.

>>17469191
>quite literally stopped a great recession
>still can't normalize out of recession policy 12 years later

>>17467718
Isn't Trump only increasing funding to Israel and the Saudis?

>>17469565
Lmao why even respond to such a stupid Zog cock sucking trump defender.
They let their minds get owned by the Jews.

>>17467639
Is that why he filled his cabinet with knowledgeable... Oh, most positions still unfilled you say? Obvious cronyism you say?
Retards voted for a reality tv star because "haha le ebin funneh meme." This was a nice place when it was a Ron Paul imageboard.

>>17468248
based

If the Federal Reserve does not factor in to your argument, you are a retard.
Wordfind: "fed"
Apparently there is only one non-retard here >>17468201

You day trading morons are no more intelligent than people who spend their days playing slots at a casino.
Get fucked

for crying out loud, Obama fucking loaded up a plane with fuckin Cash and flew that shit over to Iran. what kind of fucking deal is that?

We just took out their general and called it a day, no need to load a plane full of monies to beg them not to build nukes

Fuck that guy

>>17467651
This guy sounds like all the self centered assholes out there with a mic and a holier than though attitude. He just gloats in front of his cronies and there is no room for debate.
I could be wrong but if this guy told me that don't vote for this person because they once said something wrong I'd take it with a grain of salt.
Not a burger before I get accused of being a zoomer/boomer/commie

>>17468062
>I can counter your whole argument in one word, but you won’t be smart enough to understand how completely this eclipses what you’re trying to say: Suicide.
>Big yikes.

>>17470138
This brainlet still believes the big bad fed meme.
Point and laugh.