/biz/ - Business & Finance

Buy TMDX.

I can't play video games anymore because nothing is more fun to me than trading stocks daily.

>>17423928
Buy Amazon!

>>17423942
way ahead of you my canine friend

>>17423942
WHERE THE FUCK WAS MY CONFERENCE UPDATE WITH TIMESTAMP?!?

Just like $1000 overnight thanks to coronachan

send assistance please

>>17423928
Who here loaded up on GILD and GOLD/GLD early this month? Up up up she goes

Is it a good idea to grab SDGR tomorrow?

>>17423942
TMDX is the future.

ATTENTION ALL DIVVY FRENS
OXLCP
That is all.

>>17423973
*lost

>>17423888
But why?
There may be some reasons to buy the companies but generally japan will enter a recession or is already in one. That will pull down even perfectly stable companies

fuckin wild how popular wallstreetbets is. If there is a correction or a crash in the next year, I bet one of the major causes will be the influx of too many new traders due to commission free trading and overall flexibility of being a trader nowadays, but also due to shit like wsb popularizing speculating/gambling instead of investing.

>>17423973
Nice
>>17423985
Oh

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/intuit-intu-tops-q2-earnings-221510279.html
https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/24/intuit-credit-karma/
new news on $INTU. Acquisitions and good earnings. to buy or not?

>>17424001
>Next year
Doubt it. It will hit us much sooner.

Savanon...GALT is marked as strongly sold, I’m scared man.

>>17423963
For me, it’s the sorceress

ugh can we please not recover tomorrow...

>>17424023
I meant within the next year, but yea, I think some shit will go down before the summer if corona gets worse (which it most definitely will)

>>17423961
Same. My 1099-b is over 70 pages long. Compare that to my dad's, whose is only about a dozen pages.

rate my portfolio

APPL - 3k
SPY - 12k
VEA - 2k
VTI - 31k

>>17424001
liquidity just helps price discovery happen quicker
at the end of the day, the truth always comes out, and the big boys will still be the ones calling the shots
the little traders making big gains or losses are just along for the ride, they aren't driving the bus.

>>17424030
sorceress is numero uno
big hat, big hair, big personality

>>17424022
Does anyone actually use credit karma?

>wake up
>Literally all my trail stops fired off

Who else doing a holdy on they goldy? Post gold stocks. Swapped Netflix for British jew gold on Friday because I am physic and kept me from dipping below 2% loss today. How long should I do the comfy Goldy Boldy dance? Will the media be done with this months "omg this is for sure the worst ever ever for real!! We won't survive George Bush! Swine flue is gonna kill- I mean duck flue is gonna rape- I mean Trump is Hitler-I I I CHINAAAAAAA IS BUYING MASKS!!"

Lord, China eats luke warm month old dead bats in some pee pee cambells broth (because it bring magic penis luck to famree and great honor to house) and for some reason I'm suppossed to take their health advice.

WHO ELSE HOLDIN THE GOLDIN??

>>17424063
Tons of people and tons of corporations also use intuit's paycheck app.

>>17423961
Same here anon. Ever since I started making money with a big paying job and stocks I dont find video games as fun. It's like video games are trials or practice and the real thing is trading and career and such. Just so much more satisfying to win at life.
>>17423978
That was shilled here and I was hoping for it to drop down but it shot up pretty quickly after ipo. Missed a chance there. It's been doing pretty well. Should be a German conference tomorow or this week or something.

>>17424047
what was your 2019 performance vs. your dad though? did you win? (are you winning, son?)

>>17423991
This was supposed to be the year of the Japanese recovery until very recently. Some had also called for a Q1 “recession” followed by a recovery.

I... I... this wasn’t supposed to be this way. Anon yesterday said his dad works at Nintendo and his uncle at Sony and I should hold.

>>17424062
You know her MP has to be astronomical

1. The recession should have happened years ago and could start at any moment

2. Coronavirus is a nothingburger flu turned into a crisis by China's ridiculous overreaction

3. The stock market is currently overvalued by about 30%

4. Stop arguing that there is no recession coming just because the coronavirus is overhyped, that is irrelevant.

5. Since the bubble is built on lies we just need a slight loss of confidence to bring it down, any source will do, including a slightly-worse flu pandemic

6. Market confidence is a product of mass psychological trends, not logic. The cattle are getting restless

>>17423975
Did a hot swap last week. Stay half gold, half liquid cash or buy more C3P0?

>>17424078
30% gain from Jan 1 last year, but that's was after a dismal 2018. I didn't even beat market performance. Feels bad man. I got JUST'd by PHUN and DF last year. I gotta stop buying shitty stocks.

Jesus when even Cramer turns...

>>17424030
she have Amazon stocks, guaranteed

>>17423973
>thanks to coronachan
no, thanks to the chinese. they have shit hygiene, they are eating poached animals, they are the ones that failed to prevent this from getting so bad by ignoring the known problem for so long

here's a good video for some insight into how china really is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbHxeOQA1Mc

>>17424108
people saying corona is like a flu are absolute idiots that should catch corona themselves

>>17424126
This isn’t new. You haven’t been paying attention if you haven’t heard him FUDing the virus. His club has been fading the rally.

Also roped me into buying the VIAC “dips” FUCK.

>>17424032
If we recover we will drop much lower.
If we just crash down come opening we will reach reasonable levels for the time being.
I guess.
>>17424068
I might reenter tomorrow after selling today. Sadly only at like 1,1% up but I can not complain about missing out on profits.

But it all depends on the market. If we see some recovery it will go down. I predict just before closing time tomorrow to be the best time for a cheeky buy
>>17424100
>This was supposed to be the year of the Japanese recovery until very recently.
Really?
"japanese recovery 2020" gives me practially no results

I have a Roth IRA, 401(k), Roth 401(k), 203(k), Traditional IRA, 2 HSAs, and 3 investment accounts not including crypto and inherited accounts. I buy each leg of my option spreads individually and buy/sell a spread at least once a day. I hope some autistic government wagey goes through every line of my 15 or so 1099s, some with hundreds of pages. He's going to try his damndest to find an error because my tax filings have at least 10 red flags on them. He won't. But just the thought of it makes my penis very hard.

>>17424108
do you understand the difference between a recession and a stock market crash?

>>17424126
Jim "Orso Italiano" Cramer coming in hot to piss al over the futures pump
cmon Jim don't be like this

>>17424125
ask your pop for some tips
what kind of stocks does he buy? ?

>>17424108
Democrats have failed to use the media to bring down Trump, so now they are trying to stoke fear to lower the Bull market. What I don't get is why they are trying this under "Mr. Economy: The President". Do they really think we want to eat socialist reform mulch for the next 4 years?

>>17424001
I would be shocked if the volume contributed by retail traders with 500 dollar robinhood ports had any effect at all, what is it compared that to the implications of fed policy, trade numbers, algos reading headlines?
>>17424100
;_;

>>17424149
>people saying corona is like a flu are absolute idiots that should catch corona themselves
I have flu symptoms right now, so does the rest of my family. Recurring fevers for 7 days. Insane coughing.. Like no other flu I've had. I work with many Chinese nationals who are also sick. The CDC isn't testing. You will see in a few months when the headlines read "did you get the flu this year? It was probably coronavirus!" And everyone will feel so smug not getting too worried about it. Screenshot me, I'm literally infected and you will be too

Big kek at trump falsely equivocating the stock market with the economy this whole time. He knows he can juice the market MUCH easier than the economy kek.

Now he’s got everyone else buying into the stock market = the economy thing. It’s such a simple deception and he does it so clumsily and yet... it works every time. The man can’t lose

>>17424032
This. Please media try to push fear like you always do I want to get some yummy cheap Tesla and Appl. Please fucking crash hard all week I am holding stacks of gold.

>>17424068

Loaded up on GLD and SLV to the tune of 10k total a few months back. It makes up 12% of my portfolio. Right now they are the only items rising along with all my government bond ETFs. About two weeks ago I swapped a large amount of equities for bonds and kept my blue chip stuff I thought would weather the storm or do well (Coke, Enbridge, etc).

So far I’m only down a couple hundred over the past week. The metals and bonds really helped soften the blow.

Stay balanced, friendos.

>>17424126
>>17424158
stop paying attention to media talking heads. it's worthless noise.

>>17424165
puts or calls my dude? or just buy for long term?

>>17424176
He just buys your typical boomer blue chips and refuses to touch anything below 5 bucks. I'm just gambling too much and need to stop buying literal garbage. Let's see.
DF: went BK.
MDR: sold it right before it went BK.
VLRX: delisted and OTC.
YAYO: delisted and OTC.

>>17424108
>3. The stock market is currently overvalued by about 30%
opinion thrown directly in to the trash

>>17424199
That's why China just announced they're building 19 more pop up "hospitals" on top of the 2 they already built this month, and cancelled all national sports until April 30th.

>>17424126

I stopped listening to him after 2008.

unless everything does a 360, the stonks are going to recover

heres some professional advice: Buy the fucking dip

>>17424262
When he said to don’t need to make a run on the banks but you do need to cash the fuck out of the stockmarket?

He saved a lot of people a lot of trouble... as long as they bought the fucking dip and didn’t just get out and stay out.

>>17424199
people's understanding of corona is based on false numbers from china and they disappear people trying to leak things. nobody knows how bad corona really is.

could turn out to be almost harmless in civilized countries (china is a developing nation pretending not to be) but people that compare it to a flu at this time are idiots that just regurgitate some other idiotic influencer's thoughts.

>>17424261
China is retarded

>>17423928
buy NRZ. probably the highest div you can get that is unlikely to be cut, with high projected revenue growth

wtf is all this futures shit? don't futures represent the total number of options being traded? could just be a high volume of puts, no?

BWL.A took a pretty nice dip to entry, and if SOXL goes any further into the low 200s I'm jumping on board

>>17424060
lots of overlap for no reason
foreign markets have been dragging about as bad as small caps for almost a decade now with no chance of coming back anytime soon.

>>17424294
>don't futures represent the total number of options being traded?
what
no

>>17423928
This is the way I should be going

>>17424291
This. One of my favorites I've been shilled here so far

>>17424302
absolutely

I'm surprised so many here realize what's about to happen, but remember that nobody can time it. In a normal market you'd have a chance, but when every central bank has the option to print into infinity or do nothing as they see fit it's anyone's guess.

>>17424316
so wtf does it represent? I NEED TO KNOW

>>17424337
https://www.google.com/search?q=futures+explained

futures aren't the exact same as options
but they are contracts

>>17424303
so consolidate all into VTI/S&P500

>>17424335
I made 25% profit from what i had in 2 years ago. Does this mean I can take a comfy break for 2 years?

>>17424351
I'm reading up on it right now, but I don't get what the index futures represent on the chart. So if the DOW futures are up 1.2%, does that mean that investors are betting that the DOW will go up by 1.2%, or that does it mean that the DOW futures market has gone up by 1.2%.

>>17424333
It's like playin' with the bumpers up ^_^

>>17424279

Jim “buy Bear Stearns” Cramer.

I know he can’t get it right every time but he’s too sensationalist for me.

>>17424322
i finally started a roth IRA with DRIP when NRZ dipped to sub-$15 most recently. couldnt pass that shit up

>>17424351
people that link to google are so annoying. if he wanted to search google for an answer he would have fucking googled himself, he wanted to see if some other human beings would help him out. grow some social competence and netiquette.

>>17424374

if the near-dated futures contracts (this is what you will see on websites, unless you specify otherwise) go up, it indicates that futures traders think the underlying instrument is worth more.

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+do+futures+mean+in+the+stock+market

>>17424261
They're a retarded country with a government that deeply fears their own citizenry. It is a flu without a vaccine. Geriatrics will die there and here. Nothing else will happen. It is NBD as far as the market is concerned... until you shut down cities and fail to deliver 30% of product for American companies, lmao.
This will prove to be China's historic embarrassment and failure for decades to come. They had their chance and they choked. The end.

>>17424287
I'm not getting info from influencers, including your /pol/ doomer crap. I've been obsessed with coronavirus since early January and I'm telling you how it is. It's a disease that will hit like the flu if there was no vaccine for the flu. That's it.

What sale are you guys hoping for in this years Steam Batty Lunar New Year Sale? I am hoping to get DOOM and some comfy Tesla.

>>17424447
Microsoft. Please let it go to sub-100 again.

>>17424354
Yea, also depending on how young you are and want to keep it to that formula, maybe look into UPRO / TMF 55%/45% combo.

The blackhawks are flying 2-3x more than yesterday

I hope everyone and the price of oil will be OK

>>17424463
im mid 20s

I'm going deep into pipeline stocks with 20-25% dividends

>>17424421
ah ok, thanks

>>17424176
>do you understand the difference between a recession and a stock market crash?
Yes. Were you out of diapers yet during the last recession?

>>17424179
>Democrats have failed to use the media to bring down Trump, so now they are trying to stoke fear to lower the Bull market.
Delusional. You need to understand the fed interest rate of you want to talk about what is going on.. Pic related is why you are about to get fucked

>>17424260
>opinion thrown directly in to the trash
Household wealth vs GDP ratio is currently 500%. Historically it should be 350%. That's a 30% difference. U will see

>>17424392
Did he say “buy bear Stearns” or did he say if your money is in bear Stearns you’re fine?

>>17424294
>wtf is all this futures shit? don't futures represent the total number of options being traded? could just be a high volume of puts, no?
Index futures is what everybody is talking about, specifically the Dow Jones, the Nasdaq, and the S&P. For all practical purposes buying into index futures is functionally equivalent to buying an index ETF like SPY or QQQ. One of the main differences is futures trades overnight so people look to them as a possible indicator to where the market might resume the next day. If futures pump then maybe the market gaps up on open and vice versa. It sometimes works out that way

>>17424063
I have used credit karma for almost 10 years now, it's a great tool.

>>17423967
Based and pup-pilled.
>>17423972
Conference is March 3rd and I was unfortunately in Camden, NJ for most of the day because the retarded lung team hummed and hawwed and took 4 hours to draw intraop abgs so we didn't crossclamp anywhere close to on time. Re: the conference, I don't know shit about it. My Attending is an important person in the transplant world and I am simply going as a seat warmer.
>>17423982
I had a conversation with somebody from the host hospital I was at about how ridiculous it is that the only alternative to using the TMDX OCS is literally flushing the organs with cold perfusate and then sticking it on ice. Some centers look at us like we're doing rocket science, hooking hearts up to this machine, other times they already know a shit ton about it. Either way, TMDX is going to sell a lot more machines in the months and years to come.

The chinks just shut down their market. It’s gonna be another blood bath tmr. Who else shorting Asian market here?

>>17424287
There's a lot of data which institutions here have available, further, coronaviridae have been around for a very long time and have already been the subject of a lot of study in the past. Insofar as the medical side of things, the virus is priced in, so to speak. On the financial side of things, as other anons have said, I feel like China's bizarre lockdown could have a significant impact on the global economy.

>>17424509
>was unfortunately in Camden, NJ for most of the day
Oof. I'm sorry.

>>17424537
Didn’t dump my YINN puts but I’m not optimistic. They can shut down their market, they can pump liquidity, AND you have to register as a seller with the govt to sell stocks.

>HE DIDN'T BUY THE DIP

*wheezes* *wheezes*
OH MY GOD
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA

>>17423984
>OXLC
>OXLCP
Wait what? EXPLAIN!
https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/oxlc/dividend-history

>>17424537
looks open to me
source?

>>17424291
>>17424322
>NRZ
Same. I even went so far as to buy some massively underpriced leaps on it the other day. I am in it for the sick divvies tho.
>>17424577
Jersey is miserable, I have a lot of friends from there for whatever reason but fuck do I hate having to go there.

>>17424600
That anon is full of shit. It's open

>>17424582
I dumped my amd put and fomoed into Sony puts today. Hoping to make quick bucks before market tanks. I wouldn’t buy China puts right now, they re manipulating the market like crazy

>>17424509
My only concern is the competition from similar companies such as OrganOX and XVIVO. I feel like TMDX device is much more deployable than the other two, but it is still worrying.

>>17424537
Why ya gotta come on here and lie like that, huh?

>>17424500

Depends on the date. Advising to buy a stock a few weeks before it collapses is a bad idea, but it seems to go over well in /biz/.

>>17424488
>graph stops at 2015
Why the fucking why?
Lazy ass bearcuck

>>17424459
I don’t think that COULD even happen. Bill Gates could get outed as a Cosby level creep, Nadella could pull a Papa “N-word” John, and they could say that their revenue will be materially weakened by Corona virus, but to giveback 70% of its gains and go back to the 2018 low?

Powell would have to have a stroke and introduce Bernanke style lock-step rape hikes on top of all that other shit, and trump would resign on account of “this country is full of losers” ...and mike pence would then have to come out as a deeply closeted gay man, and also say he’s cool with Muslims now and institute sharia law. That MIGHT do it.

Stagg makes a decent canned chili. I normally do other brands for my lazy chili fix but the Stagg was on sale. This is pretty solid. Better than my usual.

>>17424710
I like you

>>17424711
why not make homemade chili?
it's fun and cheap and easy, you can make a bunch and freeze/fridgerate some to take into work
:D

>>17424710
much more likely that Bill gates would say the "n-word" and Nadella would be the Cosby-level creep, no?
that's what my money is on

>>17424666
Satan's trips of truth, I won't short American companies, and as bad as I want to short Chinese companies because fuck China, they just pretty much type in their own share price at this point.

>>17424772
>why not make homemade chili?
I do if I have time. I have the cans for when i want chili but don't want to do more than empty a can in to a pot and stir.

>>17424622
Didn’t know they take 2h lunch kek. Sorry anon

Cool 25% from APT today, can't wait for earnings

>>17424599
preferred divvys frenno

>>17424710
I can't believe I missed MSFT when it was under 100. I fell for the FUD from the Windows Phone fanboys who said that Microsoft was going to be IBM 2.0

>>17424817
Ok but "preferred" doesn't give dividends? Plain OXLC gives $.13 every money, but I dont see any payout for OXLCP! And why can it pay so high?

>>17424689
>>17424392
It’s really up to interpretation
To condemn him: (watch the clip)
https://app.hedgeye.com/insights/70141-remember-this-jim-cramer-bear-stearns-is-fine-do-not-take-your-mon

In his defense:
https://www.cnbc.com/id/29509036
The guy was asking about liquidity... that doesn’t really make sense in terms of the stock.

I’m biased but that sounds like “don’t make a run on the bank” to me. What I didn’t know is that investors who used Lehman Bros as their brokerage got fucked. I thought that shit it government ensured?
Goddamn I lucked out that my grandma liked schwab.

>>17424871
https://www.preferredstockchannel.com/symbol/oxlcp/

>>17424668
Those two companies will never compete, the only real threat is UTHR pivoting from EVLP to multi-visc. However, they are deep in the lungs at the moment and their long, looooong term goal is 3D organ printing. My buddy works for there, they seem like a good company too.

>>17424887
>UTHR
Oh shit isn’t baker bros in that one from a couple quarters ago?
They do a good job of picking winners.

>>17424887
To further elaborate, only the OCS is approved for clinical and therapeutic use. Every other company is ridiculously far behind the game in comparison. Sorry, I’m shilling too hard in this thread lol.

>>17424777
I got trips quoting and commenting on trips, neat.

Anyways, buy any SPCE call at open, sell before close for ez gains. If you have absolute balls of steel, hold through ER. I haven't decided if I'll hold or not.

>>17424882
>No dividend history found
But why would I get preferred version when the normal version gives higher divs?

ONTX CHADS RISE UP

>>17424887
Why do you think TMDX tanked hard from its original open price when it went public?

>>17424875

You’re right. And just 5 days before he was advising to buy in the 70’s and 60’s.

Easily found on YouTube.

>>17424941
nnvc is my gamble of the week:^)

>>17424121
I don't know anon. Gold is working out well so far, but Gilead is doing even better. If their drug becomes the therapy of choice for coronavirus It'll keep soaring

I bought Butterfield Bank (NTB) for 5% divvies.
And they has a cool dragon logo.

>>17424980
Yeah that would’ve sucked

I’m biased. I like that when he saw the writing on the wall, he went out and urged investors to panicsell. As CNBC and the rest of the media tried to keep calm (I assume)

And apparently the fed talked about it at the next meeting and laughed at him.

>>17425017
I wouldn’t overstay that or mRNA. Which blew the fuck up in the AH. The odds that they truly “have the fix” I don’t know about that.

>>17424190
It hurts Dayman. Sonies and Nintendies dragging me down hard.

Is spce gonna get btfo from the conference on tuesday? Should i bjy more if it does?

>>17425060
True. I think they're awaiting results from their tests in April? My sell half my shares in mid March

I really wish I could invest in Trader Joes. God damn I love that grocery store.

>>17424928
>expecting everyone to know every single detail of every single security in the world at all times

Sorry all knowing one

>>17425147
I was looking at Kroger stock a few days before Buffett made his announcement and didn't buy in because their performance wasn't good. Biting myself now because I love Kroger and really wanted to chuck some money at them. Shame Meijer doesn't have stock or I'd buy that one too.

>>17425112
>Entire market down 3%
>SPCE up 1% +3% after hours
This shit is going nuclear.

>>17425191
I just find it hard to believe its free money.

>>17424955
Checked. When they had their IPO it was still early days, nothing was approved for clinical use and they were spending a lot of money rather than making it. I think it was just hype investment that petered off once the reality of no easy money sunk in.

>>17425057
sweet

>>17424504
Is that always the case? I could see futures trading being simply a hedge against a negative market. Diversifying your portfolio to minimize risk and so forth

Someone think of all the poor little Japanese girls and boys!!

>>17425197
Buffett didn’t sound thrilled with it. Said it’s a tough business, it’s one of the underlings who bought it.

>>17425212
A lackey from the airfield where SPCE is stationed presented at the local university last Friday and there were quite a lot of suits in the conference. Maybe that's why SPCE is rising against all odds
t. lives in the same shithole as SPCE

>>17425306
Futures traders trade for any number of reasons (I'm one of them) and any commentary on the aggregate reasoning is post hoc rationalizing at best. Overnight trading will diverge from RTH sentiment but at 9:30 both will be rationalized and that's pretty much as simple as it is. Think of futures as a random walk unless there is a news catalyst like maybe China makes some market moving statement or whatever. There really isn't much else to say. Futures trades. Get an account. If you like where it goes buy if not then sell.

>>17425212
Tomorrow it is going up, nuclear I hope so, but the ER makes me very nervous. Retail is stupid as fuck, they should be expecting lots of losses, but I don't know how many will stomach them, let alone actually expect them.

>>17425344
>against all odds
Actually I think its simply because its valuation is ridiculously low.
Its market cap was only 2 billion a few months ago, now its only 6 billion. Thats WAAAAAY undervalued for what they are doing. I'm guessing at least 20 billion EOY, which means it will hit $100/share.

What are your moves for today?
Thinking of just staying out for today since the market could literally go anywhere.

>>17424474
Like what?
Someone shilled me one the other day but I had trouble believing any stock could pay out a 20% dividend regularly.

Where did all the bears go? Oh no no no no no! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA

>>17425547
wtf is this, the markets don't open for 8 hours

>>17425477
trim back oil position if it hits 52.50. No other trades on the docket.

>>17425562
futures

imagine not buying the most obvious dip in the history of obvious dips

>>17425571
>tfw my cash wasn't settled so I couldn't sell before the dip

>>17425547
>will recover 1/3 of what the drop today was
>will fall back down once another country gets infected with corona

>>17425593
>cope

>>17423475
>healthy 9 year old kid died of H1N1 too, coded right in the ER
Bullshit. 99.999% of "influenza" deaths, the 60k number that smoothbrains toss about, are mere proximate causes, 110 yr old dies of pneumonia, gets coded as a P&I death etc. Pediatric influenza deaths are actually tracked, with an average of less than 100 dying per flu season (most of those being infants)

>>17425547
I really do not give a shit about bulls and bears but this is the worst case for me because I can not conduct trading this way.
This literally means "We think that a -2% drop prices in the complete closure of Chinese factories", which is madness. Apple manufactures its iPhones in Shenzhen and it may gain like 2/3% today.

Id rather have one hard drop pricing in everything, so we could go back to trading without a looming shadow over the market. This way the next drop might hit any time. When markets open in 8 hours, when markets close, tomorrow, in three days, next week. One bad thing and the whole market goes boom.

I just can not do anything here. I could bet on the market rising today and it goes down again, or I bet on it crashing and it stays up for the next week.

>>17425477
FNGU day tomorrow. If it opens red I’m a buyer. If the market is down, reentering SVXY.

If the market is green, probably lighten my load into strength. Maybe sell the CSCO that I limitbought today. Maybe sell half my MA and V unless they open down big which is absolutely a possibility.
On the fence about MRVL and AMAT.
MAYBE pick up some vix-up instruments if it really comes down, in anticipation of the next ear up.

>>17425627
honestly, if i had to come up with a dubious prediction, Canada will get infected tomorrow, possibly mid-day and the cute bear will stay! I WANT THE CUTE BEAR TO STAY!

"Since 1927 there have been 220 market declines of 5% or more. Whenever the market falls 5%, like during the past week, the median total decline is 8.2%. The average decline is 12%"

>>17425676
>/r9k/ waifu
>bear
Bakka dessue sempie

>>17425547
>they shorted the bottom

>>17425688
bulls are so ugly anon!

>>17425681
Excuse me but who are you quotey?
>>17425715
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

check out this topic for a good chuckle

>>17425628

>consumer confidence data
Tomorrow?!
Oh shit that could be material.

I lost a thousand dollars today hold me bros

>>17425831
Ah, I see you're an investor in MNK as well.

>>17425827
+5% tomorrow confirmed

>>17425698
>We're a tenth of a point off ATHs! The moon hitting the Earth has been priced in!! Buy buy buy!

>>17425865
i want to hug the bear

>>17425873
Seek help

OIL IS DOING STUFF

>>17425865
Buy the dip, lots of cheapies

GO THE FUCK TO SLEEP SO YOU CAN BE AWAKE FOR TRADING TOMORROW

>>17425933
i read few threads ago that oil goes up during pandemic stuff but i dont know if anyone explained why.pls i want to know

I honestly feel like Michael Burry when he talked about his short positions. Everything we see is pointing to 3-5 year drop off. If nCoV-19 gets any worse we could see some real damage. My estimates are at least 2-5% affected business operations in America per month.

Yet there's so many bullish people here. I knew many of you guys were clueless from the get go. I know many of you guys hardly can mentally compute macro and micro economic effects and probabilities and outcomes in the coming years, but this is just absurd. An embarrassment to human intellect. It's just so sad. A market being propped up by illegitimacy and actual people that are basically mentally challenged in the realm of finance.

>>17425955
Actually based
Finna go to sleep now
also stay hydrated lads

>>17425957
No, don't count on that in this case. Oil is tied to economic strength, at least in part. If index goes down, oil goes down, usually. Chyna factories being closed is bad for oil demand and so bad for oil price. However, once Chyna gets its shit together and gets Corona chan under control, more importantly factories up to full chooch, their oil demand will shoot right back up. That will be good. But that's not happening right away and won't for at least a couple months. My initial thesis on oil entry was partly TA based and partly knowing that OPEC really would like to cut production now (except for Russia) to get the price up some. That was before Corona cases started popping up in larger numbers outside of China. Now i'm in defence mode trying to get my position size back down to a reasonable percentage rather than the large percentage it currently is due to a defensive cost average buy. That gap down on Sunday was not part of the optimal plan. OPEC meeting is March 6th and I don't want to go in to that with oil being fucking 30% of my portfolio.

>>17426044
Remember that Burry was almost too early and he nearly got liquidated before hitting pay dirt.

>>17425938
Just wanted to buy some AMD calls for today, because we get the bounce. But when I wanted to press the button something stopped me...

>>17425955
Im up since I dont know

>>17426056
thank you anon for the long and detailed explanation.have a great day

>>17426044
No, you're just fucking stupid. Theres not a single indicator of a negative economy in America. Literally every metric is positive. A fucking flu virus in China isn't going to stop shit. Did companies suddenly go bankrupt? Do people not have jobs? Is everyone losing their house? Is the water turned off? No. You're not a genius, you're just a retard going to lose all your money.

>>17426056
Yeah, I know. But that doesn't mean he didn't factor that into the equation. By getting in early, he just got swaps at a cheaper price. So your attempt to discredit him is failed. If you know anything about the industry, being first is ONE of the ways to make lots of money.

This market just isn't adding up. But the problem being it is spiraling into more and more unsubstantiation.

>>17426103
No sources, no research presented, ad hominem.

>>17426110
>So your attempt to discredit him is failed.
Not my intention. Just a caution about frontrunning trades. You don't need to play it that tight to make good money.

f-f-f-fug, do I buy the dip yet?

>>17426120
>>17426110
>No sources, no research presented, ad hominem.
>"I feel like this genius dude who made millions"
>"By getting in early, he just got swaps at a cheaper price
>"So your attempt to discredit him is failed"
>"This market just isn't adding up."
>"spiraling into more and more unsubstantiation."
Retard. Jobs are up, companies are selling more product, new technology is being made, taxes are being reduced, economic confidence is up, GDP is up. Why is it "unsubstantiated?" It just "feels" like that? Newflash bucko, you're just stupid. Fuck you, you're the definition of an unaware idiot.

>>17426044
Oh prescient one, do humor us lowly peasants with your positions and stack size. Surely the latter must be overflowing.

>>17426123
I'm more concerned about living the next 8 years than making money at this point.

>gold/silver dumping hard
I wonder how many people the doomers suckered into buying that shit

any NUGT bros here?

>>17426186
>>17426186
just today but i think its still goign to creep up this week. corona isnt going anywhere and tech and factories are going to shut down

>>17426103
There are few cases in America simply because the CDC is fucking incompetent and they still are unable to create test kits that third world countries are able to make. South Korea managed to test 5000 people in a single day while the CDC was only able to test ~400 people IN A MONTH. There are probably already tens of thousands of infected here.

The incompetence of the CDC is starting to reach the level of suspicion. There is no way the CDC is that incompetent. When people find out that many are dying it will be too late.

https://mobile.twitter.com/R_H_Ebright/status/1231809997442555904

>>17426190
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/061715/how-are-collectibles-taxed.asp
>If collectibles are sold at a gain, you will be subject to a long-term capital gains tax rate of 28%, if disposed of after more than one year of ownership.
This is why I don't buy gold.

I'm tempted to dump money in MSFT since it's at 170, do you guys think it will drop even lower?

>>17426216
>tens of thousands
*hundreds of thousands

>>17426226
You can get around this.

Bear filth getting told

>>17426226
Oh shit, I did not realize this

>>17426249
Yeah cap gain tax is shit in America. In the UK there are no such taxes if you buy bullion made by the British Mint

>>17426246
A reddit screencap posted unironically with an upvote included, the absolute state of bulls

>>17426274
Disgusting goblin

>>17426044
>I honestly feel like Michael Burry when he talked about his short positions.
THIS is a sign to be VERY FUCKING CAREFUL bearcucks. Life is not like the movies.
>I honestly feel like Michael Burry when he talked about his short positions.
Kekkies I don’t want to rip on you but come on that’s just funny. Anyhow:
>I honestly feel like Michael Burry when he talked about his short positions. Everything we see is pointing to 3-5 year drop off. If nCoV-19 gets any worse we could see some real damage. My estimates are at least 2-5% affected business operations in America per month.
Uhhhh how did you calculate these estimates? Have you been backtesting these methods at all? 3-5 year drop off in what, economic activity? Growth? Or are you taking about bond yields or some shit?

You’re just fucking with me right?
Damn it I took the bait.

>>17426186
AAAAAAH FUCKING FUCK ME I BOUGHT LIKE $730 OF KIRKLAND LAKE AND NOW THE GREMLINS ARE GOING TO REKTED ME!!!

>>17426226
This can’t apply to paper gold, does it? Also doesnt that not apply to coined PMs or something?

>>17426231
Bro. With an r naught like that. I mean I’d be surprised if anyone DOESNT have the Rona by now

>>17426216
>>17426231
Doesn't matter. Its just a flu. Theres probably over 200k people infected but it barely affects them. If you get a cold or flu, most people don't go to the doctor. The only thing surprising about corona is how easy it spreads.

>want to get into investing and stocks
>meme disease comes along and makes everything cheaper
wtf this shit is easy haha

>>17426279
you envy Anne Frank anon?

>>17426230
Buy some calls. If you're wrong you won't lose much and if you're right you stand to gain quite a bit. March 27 185c are only $1.94
>>17426274
I am shame. Still funny though. And wsb has been killing it lately which is hard to ignore

>>17426285
>This can’t apply to paper gold, does it? Also doesnt that not apply to coined PMs or something?
Go read up on the collectibles tax. Gold equivalents count, this means funds that hold gold and indexes that track gold.

>>17426190
>>17426207
>NUGT
Gold miners are already supposed to offer leverage against the gold price and this is 3x that? Be careful anon

>>17426293
It will keep happening over and over again as the filthy peasants in third world countries eat or fuck animals.

>>17424941
BROTHER

>>17426286
2-5% fatality rate, which is many times more fatal than a flu, and 20% critical cases rate is more than enough to paralyze the entire world.

Anyways we'll wait and see what happens. Unlike most crazy doomers I am not making any conclusions.

>>17426285
>I mean I’d be surprised if anyone DOESNT have the Rona by now
With very high R0, unusually long incubation period that is infectious as well, and the presence of asymptomatic carrying, this virus is uniquely very hard to contain. All we can do is hope that this virus isn't too fatal and it will burn out.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/482794-officials-say-the-cdc-is-preparing-for

>>17426293
>>17426327
>deadly viruses and bacteria are "cultivated" in Africa every day and nobody bats an eye
>but one little flu virus in China and everyone LOSES THEIR MINDS!

>>17426286
Also remarkable is how good it is at killing unhealthy older males typically with a history of smoking and generally living in highly areas with highly polluted air.

>>17426320
Jeeeezus fuck. So my GLDM gains might as well be jack shit. Wait, am I even going to pay taxes on this shit if I don’t plan on having any other taxable income this year besides dividends and capital gains?

Is this a reason to buy the miners instead? Or are THEY subject to the same taxes and so they get it on their end too?

Is this why the miners are all Canadian firms? Does gold get taxed differently up there?

So many damn unknown unknowns...

>>17426357
Problem is this one escaped and it escaped in special cheap labour market and not Africa where it wouldn't matter as much.

>>17426355
2-5% in Hubei, from the cases that wound up in the hospital

>>17426302
My europoor broker doesn't have options like reobinhood does, I can only buy and sell stock

>>17426355
>2-5% fatality
If the real number of infected is nearly 200k like I mentioned, the mortality rate is much lower. The media likes to mention all the dead people because it makes them money, but they are mostly people who were already unhealthy. >>17426368

>>17424029
I am quite comfy with my shares and calls. Things are going according to plan, new CMO wouldn't sign if there was no money to pay him, DU exercising underwater options could be a sign to shareholders that no dilution is coming, and a buyout is not off the table.

>>17426399
Right, the numbers are from China. Two thing to consider with this 2-5% statistic is:

1. The obvious fact that China is downplaying the death rate. China does not count people that died outside of hospitals (so most people) as deaths by coronavirus. They were also caught fudging the numbers by saying people that died were from pneumonia, not coronavirus.

2. BUT on the other side, we must consider the fact that Chinese medical abilities are not yet top tier, and the fact that the Chinese smoke and breathe air that is several times worse than America's.

So we have to meet somewhere in the middle when predicting what's going to happen in the West, although I'd say that #1 has a larger impact than #2.

>>17426409
China is faking both the # infected and # deaths. All those that are infected and all those that died outside of the hospital are not counted.

The 2-5% statistic is from the official numbers of people that died in the hospitals.

>>17426409
>>17426441

I suspect another factor is rate of diagnosis. Only those seriously ill seek medical attention. As far as I know, unless this changed recently, only those seeking medical attention at hospitals were diagnosed.

Since hospitals filled up quickly, they weren’t diagnosing people they couldn’t treat. Since they were full, they just turned people away. They didn’t diagnose everyone who had it and then turn people away. They just treated the sickest (and probably wealthiest).

This would’ve skewed it so less people were diagnosed, but more of those people were seriously ill.

It’s what coronavirus caused is the problem. Do you realize how many billions of dollars is being lost out our companies because of factories being shut down in China? How can one say there is no bearish indicator out there because of this? There’s no way our companies with shut down factories can possibly make the earnings they have been, make as much revenues and meet guidance without their factories. This could of been just the flu but companies didn’t switch production back to USA and build new factories in America. They had all the incentives and tax breaks possible to do so but no, there’s more markup using a luke warm bat eating country because they have sweatshops with super cheap labor. It’s not a surprise this is happening.

>>17426465
I suspect this as well

>>17426467
Just as likely is that the market had been looking for a reason to sell off. Gains to be consolidated. Charts patterns to follow. Maybe some gaps to fill or some shit.

>>17426463
Yes the lying china thing makes everything extremely speculative.
Everyone knows they’re lying. It’s like when we get economic data, especially from China and Russia, everyone “knows” they’re fudging the numbers.

Problem is we’re making too many assumptions based on what we think their motivations are, and it’s really impossible to know. The chain of blame and command and unaccountability and saving face... I’m going to guess it’s too convoluted and “foreign” for me to untangle it all and basically read their minds.

>>17426486
Yay! I’m not alone!

Anyways guys, we'll see what happens on this dumb virus. It's too early to conclude on anything.

I don't want to make turn this /smg/ thread into a virus discussion so I will leave and let you guys resume stock market discussions.

>>17426467
Its just temporary. Companies can survive one bad quarter and then its back to normal

>>17426357
It's almost like Africa is corrupt niggertown that only China seems to hold any power over.
I invested in Angola once and never fucking again. I made bank after they found the biggest fucking diamond in Angola (fuck you LOM) but otherwise it was a terrible experience.

>>17426506
>Yes the lying china thing makes everything extremely speculative.
The secretive nature of China is what fuels so many conspiracy theories. They are not helping the panic.

>>17426285
US has 21.2% of imports from China, 7.4% exports from China. I won't walk you through this entirely so try and catch up. Do the math for how that affects businesses, do math for how many businesses' margins will be negatively affected now that market demand for supplies has shifted, and China usually being the cheapest supplier, etc etc. Think about this on a microeconomic business scale, then summate to a macro scale, in that should lie your answers. I don't like going off of the market's speculatory ideas so I price in ahead of time looking at actual numbers.

3-5 years is just an estimate. I haven't run a full blown model on this, but my educated assumptions are that with current QE happenings, repo market money being given out, wages stagnating, etc, the market within a 3- 5 year timeline may reach such high levels of risk/volatility that it will not make any sense to be in anymore, and your efforts are better spent elsewhere. Again, I haven't run the full out models yet.

>>17426530
I think you vastly underestimate how quickly much of the garbage tier production can be shifted to places like Vietnam.

>>17423984
Try AM for 24% and EQM for 19%
Distresses natural gas stocks are where its at, the EIA predics a 4% dip or so in nat gas production in the us this year, prices will recover quickly

Sure hope BGS doesnt become completely and utterly worthless tommrow

>>17426530
>run the models
lmao, do you think that makes you sound smart?

>>17426546
Companies started leaving China a long time ago. Even Vietnam is starting to be too expensive for some corporations. Now it's places like Cambodia and Bangladesh.

I wonder where Nike is going to next, Nigeria??

>>17426546
But they will still probably hike prices due to lessened supply of suppliers/increased demand. Not to mentioned looking at longevity and implementation/execution factors.

The price goes up regardless and volume is affected as well.

There's also a number of companies that are heavily dependant on Chinese products/materials. How many? I don't know for sure. But just a lack of product availability and production stoppage/slowdown is easily translatable into cash bleed.

>>17426565
Is that man kill?

ARE EURO MARKETS HALTED?

I'm kind of a noob but it looks like euro markets should be open, but I don't see anything going on. What is happening?

>>17426575
Euro markets are working fine for me, at least the scandi ones.

JESUS

Alright gents, how are we feeling on the S&P 500 on open? I made a pretty penny shorting it yesterday, but futures are up and the european markets are bouncing back.

>>17424108
I think depending on the President in 2020 could set off the next recession

>>17426575
Frankfurt runs from 8am to 8pm CET
Every other one runs somewhere inbetween.
I think by now every big one should be open.
Dax is up 0.6%, Eurostoxx .5%

>>17426601
Futures up so high I'd be very surprised if we didn't open green with lower VIX (what I need). If we bounce too hard off this bottom could be a rough couple of days after. Could be a rough couple of days after even if we don't.

>>17426596
Baboons are bretty cool.

>>17426601
>the european markets are bouncing back.
European markets are literally just following American markets though. They often even mimick the futures.
They indicate nothing.

>Alright gents, how are we feeling on the S&P 500 on open?
Green. But I doubt it will last long. I am staying out of this game today.

>>17426588
>>17426622
Thanks bros. I was watching the DAX right after the turn of the hour and it wasn't budging, got weirded out.

>>17426596
Well the news is real but no mention of any research on a vaccine

But if the vaccine part is real,. I'm starting to get flashbacks of so many zombie movie plots

>>17426648
>Well the news is real but no mention of any research on a vaccine
Yeah, that was me editing he article for some fun

Holy shit, I have watched rocks fall slower than how fast DAX is going down

>>17426658
It will crab. As long as nobody gets news from the US nobody knows what to do.
Same shit every day.

>>17423984
Try AM for 24% and EQM for 19%
Distresses natural gas stocks are where its at, the EIA predics a 4% dip or so in nat gas production in the us this year, prices will recover quickly

>>17426655
nice

new numbers out
How will it affect us?

>>17424447
>mfw I bought Tesla stock at about 300
>I see Elon smokes the Bush
>some nonsense about selling stocks for 420 privately
>get out thinking IRS is going to fuck my stock portfolio
>sell at breaking even
>check stock price today
>mfw

why are futures green? I thought we were all gonna die

>>17426692
Those don't sound so bad, it was the huge jump in South Korea over the weekend + Italy reaction that did this huh?

>>17426692
South Korea is looking like they got this locked down fast. I am impressed. If a country that doesn't want to be honest with testing (USA) it makes me wonder what they are hiding.

>>17426557
road to $16

>>17426711
we are
this is the "bargaining" stage
once we reach "acceptance" we should be above SPX 4000 with party hats on

>>17426562
>>run the models
It's like you don't even reroute the encryption bruh

>>17426596
Oh for fuck sakes get it together

Futures will continue going down, it will open green but then close red again today. I know this, but I can't bring myself to sell

>>17426711
-2% prices in all factory problems with China apparently.

China to Europe takes 30 days btw., so even if all factories were able to go back online tomorrow the first goods would arrive in europe in a month.

>>17423928
Premarket soon. Who is taking bets on what?

I'm thinking spce green, tesla green but only a little, Microsoft red a bit.

>>17426731
Naw, I just use gigafiber to transport my teraflops via quantum neural linkage system.

https://youtu.be/N0DuV1wpDhY

>>17426562
You're literally mocking math. May your pride rot with you unless you find truth.

>>17426747
>>17426745
Option 1: Market green for one two days, then drops
Option 2: Market goes boom directly

all my chink tech stonks went up by at least 3% today, after 2 days of major correction. I assume, after yesteday's dip, the us market will bounce hard. If you want to get out, now's your chance. If you're in for the long run, expect many more dips, crabbing, bouncing and things starting to normalize around april.

So spoke zaratusthra.

>>17426622
Burger stocks run from 4am to 8pm including per and post market electronic trading so a total of 16 hours a day, does Frankfurt or any other exchange you know of have as many hours? I'm just curious

I derisked almost entirely. Staying in Nestlé because technically they should come out good in the long term on both sides of outcomes. Looking to profit off of COVID-19 though.

>>17426596
what kind of racist publication is this nazi newspaper?

>>17426747
gold will trickle up nice and steady, most tech will stay down, some big 500 companies will see minor gains before tumbling again for closing

>>17426711
All the retail investor NPCs I know are clucking 'buy the dip' cheerfully at each other. This is interspersed with repetitive one line criticisms of the 'fearmongering' main stream media and a mantra praising the US CDCs response that seems to momentarily put them into a post orgasmic trance like state.

It's all very bizarre to watch.

>>17426775
Only Eurex in Frankfurt. Runs from 8am to 10pm
With European brokers you can usually trade from 8am till 10pm. Though no pre-market trading.

wait why are futures going down
I thought all the bad news was already priced in

>>17426701
dam son, don't Google wsbgod or you'll want to off yourself for real
>>17426820
Interesting, thanks

>>17426813
these faggot brainlets are the same ones who watch MSNBC and CNN for "fact based reporting" and think coronavirus is a nothinburger

>>17426842
the bear is so cute, now I can sleep comfortably.

>>17426842
if you are smart you are going to bear down for the week, just give it a couple days for the idiots at redlit to figure it out

>>17426813
>>17426848

Don't worry, they have it coming. Once this shit hits Europe for good we're in for some really nice show.

>>17426813
>bears getting smug
disgusting
buy.
the.
dip.
Not all the dip. Not the indices. Not the semis.
But find the good ones and buy.

>>17426770
Fuggg there go the YINN puts that helped keep me in the green yesterday. Well at least my one tiny KO call and all the other stuff I bought/DCA'd down on today should rally.

Tomorrow will likely be a risk-off day for me, selling into strength. And if there's more weakness, SVXY!

>>17426848
That's real cute, but NO ONE WATCHES CNN
Knock off your nonsense. CNN is just the channel people put on in waiting rooms or treadmill screens and shit, and once anyone starts actually watching they change the channel to something "good" . It's like the weather channel but occasionally there's someone good looking on the screen or something that makes you think something like "oh right, australia's on fire, I should google that and read about it on [preferred source]"

And why do you leave out Fox and Bloomberg?

>>17426865
i got long calls on inverse EUO stock to short the euro for dirt cheap. the writing is on the fucking wall, its already got a foothold in europe

>>17426865
just give it one more MSM update and there will be a euro panic sell

>>17426871
because Fox and Bloomberg are unironically actual fact based reporting, not groveling DNC propaganda shills

>>17426847
No pre-market trading for us normal people though.
Instiutional investors have ways of course.

Also derivatives often can not be traded after 8pm when the issueing bank closes. Rare, but happens.

Only relevant exchanges are London-Milano, Euronext and Frankfurt. The smaller ones like Munich come into play when the big ones are closed.
>>17426842
Who knows. I will wait for more info before I gamble some money here.

Do we have a /smg/ discord server?

Interesting...

>>17426847
Googled

Ugh...i would've only made two paychecks...it's fine. In the long run there will be many losses, but I must learn.

>>17426949
Ah shit that's too lewd

>>17426944
Namefag central? No thanks.

>>17426949
Too lewd

>>17426900
They serve different masters, but you’re kidding yourself if you think tucker and Jeanine and hannity and the rest are fact based reporting. Especially the morning clown crew.

They have had some real news sometimes and tucker does hit sometimes, but he’s still very hit or miss.

>>17426949
Too lewd! Delete delete!
Think of the advertisers!

does anyone else feel like appl is way overvalued? im going to buy in if it goes below $200 but i just dont see what theyve done in the last year to merit a doubled stock price

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JvEas_zZ4fM

>>17426964
>yourself if you think tucker and Jeanine and hannity

im not kidding myself. those opinion shows and they state it as such, hannity literally repeats that mantra all the time.

im talking about when there is some sort of breaking story or development. they use unbiased reporting, not the faggoty CNN panel who comments about how "the racism from the president is so obvious" and simliar type blather

>>17426973
I doubled since last year with apple.
I bought Jan 2019, sold 12 days ago, waiting for it to lower to jump back in.

>>17426990
Kek
Racism is a distraction from gains.
Keep your head down, stay anon, and make that money

>>17426973
they're sitting on a fat stack of cash
they have pricing power, meaning that they have a huge base of consumers that are willing to pay whatever price they set.
apple is a juggernaut in their market segments. Even if they sort of stall out (lack of innovation), that company will be printing billions and billions of dollars for decades.

that's the apple bull case as far as I know. there might be more to it

>>17424941

Chads or sads?

>Futures drop slightly
And there goes the DAX
Already red

"Please welcome the 46th President of the United States of America, Bernie Sanders." Whats the first thing you do?

premarket's looking good. Might be a dead cat bounce, might be the way back up. Either way, if you bought cheapies yesterday (I know I did) this is your time to fuck off or actually prove that you have balls and sit through this rollercoaster of fear and have decent gains.

we now know that

a) coronochan's damage is no longer relevant, but the fear related to it is very very relevant. everyday a factory closes its doors or a city goes into lockdown is mucho dinero lost and will have an impact on the medium term

b) the msm holds enormous influence over the market, they can pull coronachan's or ww3 card anytime they feel like it to tank the market. Algos and boomers will react to it. I'm not even mentioning big whales speculating on fear.

c) the main risk is we're sitting on the biggest bubble in the market's history. Europe, US and china are all printing money like there is not tomorrow. No one knows when it'll burst, so it can be coronachan, iran, or a trump tweet.

so, in a nutshell, bulls climb over wall of worries and etcetera, but this doesn't look stable at all. Buy physical gold to hedge and best of luck to all.
some of us are gonna make it.

>>17427031

>>17427031
>>17427049
cmon europe keep it together you idiots

>>17427031
Daily reminder: When the virus hits Germany they are finally going to start doing massive fiscal stimulus. DAX 20K EOY

>>17427016
yea but what changed in the last year?

>>17427056
friendly reminder to short the euro before redlit figures it out and prices go up

>>17427061
I think the big "issue" that Apple stock price had a year ago was trade war worries.
At that point both sides (US and China) were ramping up tariffs and no one knew where it would end. Eventually things steadied out and there has been no talk of increasing tariffs for many months now.
There was also the little tantrum the market threw in late 2018...

I did it reddit!

>>17427060
Our economy is flat at best. Chances are we are already in a recession. Growth is literally 0.1% according to official data. Inofficially...

>>17427094
i totally forgot about that, thanks anon makes perfect sense

>>17427106
Nice!

>>17427106
is this the tranny clinic?

>>17427016
That’s a pretty solid bull case. They’ve had THE category defining smartphone for what, 10-15 years? Everyone tries to unseat them but nothing really eats away at their userbase. Instead they gain more users who never really want to leave.

And then they added watches and headphones and everyone KNOWS their overpriced, but they buy them anyways. And then they love them. No one “needs” them but they don’t want to go without their damn earbuds.

If aapl tv worms it’s way into peoples houses, then that’s even more customer loyalty, subscriptions, people sign up for cloud backups, etc etc.

And they’ve got other avenues you’d never even hear about. Whenever anyone signs up for a Netflix account or whatever through the iPhone app, Netflix has to pay Apple for that. And these damn things have basically replaced computers and laptops, so everyone will soon only be signing up for shit through apps on their phones pretty much.

They’ve also got scale, loads of cash in the books, Buffett in their corner, and have made their shit so simple even my 90+ year old grandmother can text on her iPhone.

I cannot emphasize the customer loyalty enough.

Goddamn. I need to buy back into Apple.

>>17427061
The fear that both US and China were going to attack Apple in the trade war turned out to be way overblown and completely wrong. The company guidance was for low revenue and they kept killing it at earnings. People saw that the subscription revenue was real. They saw that the accessory revenue was real.

Then they saw that it had insane momentum and as going to hit 1 trillion. And being one of the heaviest weighted stocks in the index means that more money from every index fund investor goes to Apple than to smaller companies, so the big just get bigger.

>>17426964
Tucker actually got surprisingly close to the truth of the situation for his 2/24 show. As I have watched this situation develop /pol/ seems to be 1-2 weeks ahead of the global arrogate media. Tucker had a guy in the field straight up questioning the CDC response as inadequate. Very pleasant surprise.

CNN, MSNBC, CBS and the rest are starting to do their tense music, fearmongering crap.
>COVID-19: Will it melt your baby? Find out later.

>>17427049
>>17427031
Futures dropping hard now. Red by open. I'm not opening my accounts today.

>>17426900

>just give it one more MSM update and there will be a euro panic sell

Digits confirm! German media are keeping the lid down hard on the Italy thing ... "No reason to worry ... wir schaffen das!". Glorious shitshow! In contact with quite a few companies in metallurgical industry. Most of them are zombies, you literally cough at one of those and it will go bankrupt. This extends to most other business. Just not sure yet what will come first in this hen-and-egg story ... Euro goes poof and drags everyone down or enough mid- to big-sized zombies croak out and Euro joins the ride ...

>>17427122
Now I have to wake up early to sell my position or see if I should hold
>>17427128
They operate a bunch of hospitals, I’m sure one of them must be a tranny clinic.

>>17426975
Thanks for posting this. I'm watching the whole thing

>>17427106
looking at the numbers i think it still has room to grow, i think todays dip affected it but those EPS were a lot

>>17427167
no i looked it up its not teh tranny clinic that someone was shilling here earlier. what made you pick it? im assuming you got it before the earnings boost

FTSE MIB already -100

>>17426064
>Just wanted to buy some AMD calls for today, because we get the bounce. But when I wanted to press the button something stopped me...
My gut is never wrong. Honestly, the only times I make losses is when I go against it.
Now that futures are dropping I will definitely stay away

>>17427220
>>17427220
>>17427220
New

>>17427182
>what made you pick it?
It ballooned to 7 bucks then I bought the 6 dollar put. Basically my logic was they’re a Fortune 500 company with nearly a billion dollars in losses annually. There was no way they can have a bull run like they were having that would last more than 2 weeks.

>>17427143
>the truth
>pol is several weeks ahead of the media and knows “the truth”
What is this truth?
And will learning the truth melt my baby?

Tucker also has segments dedicated to UFOs and basically forces guests to say “yes extraterrestrials are the most likely explanation” so I’m pretty damn wary of the guy.

>>17426944
Fuck off tranny

>>17424032
stocks only go up

>>17427037
Most of my equities investments are in the semiconductor sector. I went into these investments with the belief that semiconductor growth will far outpace the overall economy for the next couple of decades at least. I also know the specific companies I've invested in have fantastic balance sheets, executive direction, enormous moats, peerless and deep talent pools, and long pipelines of compelling products their consumers want.
In the face of the coronavirus and political uncertainty surrounding the trade war or the upcoming election has affected my opinions in the slightest. The only practical effect of the current dip is to lower prices allowing me to own even more of these companies I like. I ain't selling shit, I'm buying.