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not buying, its a retarded concept https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuSps_2wMQ4&t=2s

>>17400858
neither because i got in under 1 cent and im not a fuckign shitskin nigger who needs pennies on the dollar to survive

>>17400858
Can't you see the chart? This is going to 0

>>17400872
not really. only real way to have an escrow smart contract for real world items.

>>17400858
Volume's dropped pretty low and price seems to be tanking, so I sold out.

I was lucky to break even tbqh.

>>17400877
Yea same.

Somehow most people actually didn’t get in during the sale lol
FOMO was strong, it will probably have bounces in father.

HODLLLLLLLLL

>>17400890
have you watched the video? does it seem like a good idea to you?

>>17400957
Lmao no.
I'll buy back in when the price is corrected though. It is a good idea and the team seems to be solid.

>>17400976
Yup, and read their white papers. Its a good idea i would unironically use if their escrow was integrated with paypal or something similar.

>>17400858
>are you guys buying or selling?
Neither, dude.
I didn't buy in, so I'm not selling.
Did I miss an opportunity to make money by buying before the pump and selling at the top? Sure I did.
But I'm pretty terrible at recognizing the "top" of these things, I've lost money before on an "investment" in a p&d. I'd rather just invest in projects I think are worthwhile and wait for them to grow.

Trading /biz/ shillcoins and p&d's is too stressful.

>>17400976
Projects which put real world data on-chain are going to be important. Fact is that a lot of useful data needs to be screened by humans still

>>17400976
>fudding a coin whose entire team just exit scammed
is this a good use of your time?

>>17401015
Well, for me it just doesn't feel right. So I wouldn't be comfortable investing in it. Good luck, though.

>>17401051
good. buy xlm or xrp niggerboi

>>17401051
thats fine. Things should chill out after ethcc and people will see its a legit project

>>17401051
Ah, emotional investing. The best kind.

>>17401090
I'm not saying it's not legit, just that the idea behind it doesn't seem good to me.

>>17401112
One use case for the escrow which is easy to understand is lets say you buy a bunch of shit from China.. now you can rely on Alibaba's "trade insurance" to dispute claims if a chink sells you counterfiet or damaged goods OR you can have a committee of people with no vested interest in the trade. They are vested however in telling the truth.

That use case alone would have saved me $1000's after getting burned on alibaba

Never Selling.

fuck this low volume piece of shit.
Im buying aragon.

>>17401112
Dispute resolution isn't a good idea? Interesting...

>>17401173
Okay that seems like a good idea. Maybe the example they show in the video is just not a good one.

>>17401080
>buy xrp

>>17401173
This can happen only if the site of alibaba or some other forces both vendor and buyer to use a dispute platform and waste money to do this.

>>17401173
>>17401203
Just one question: how will the court know if your claim is legit or if you are, for example, lying or tampering the evidence?

>>17401203
Yeah look at the team.. they are visibly autistic. I think once the tech is polished and bullet proof they will get a business guy on board to normie it up and will really take off

>>17401261
You have to submit evidence. Then the other side can appeal it if they think you are lying and tell the court why they thing you are lying. It then goes to another jury which is larger and the stakes get higher

>>17401283
Let's remember that "court" has no jurisdiction whatsoever.

>>17401253
No this would eliminate the need for sites like alibaba as a source of 'trust'. You could have money in a smart contract that only gets filled if either both sides are happy or the court resolves the dispute.

>>17401295
dude this isnt a 'legal court'. Have you not heard of arbitration? Very very few international trades go to local courts, they go to international arbitrators

It is always the same dog and pony show when it comes to these cryptocurrencies that come out of nowhere and get massively shilled right out of the blue. Insiders load at ICO prices then wait a bit until their hype campaign succeeds. Ultimately what ends up happening is massive fomo arises leaving the newly bag holding twits getting screwed over.

>>17401295
I studied jurisprudence and can tell you that this has zero to with court as seen on TV. These are arbitrage cases that cost both parties alot of effort, time & money, implementing the dispute mechanism into the smart contract through Kleors eliminates the need for this

https://blog.kleros.io/the-godfather-of-online-dispute-resolution-speaks-with-kleros/amp/

This is literally confido all over again, you fags are getting fleeced hard. They were even "partnered" a few years ago KEK

>>17401348
have a look at this chart, i'm not saying the price cannot drop further but it will certainly bounce back again

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/zL4m21HT/

>>17401295
and to add.. for trades less than $500k its very very expensive to arbitrate and in countries like China.. good luck have fun with that. Takes forever and is expensive af and surprisingly a "jury" of anons with a few thousand dollars staked IS more honest than a jury of chinamen

>>17401376
just check klerosscan, there are more cases added day by day :)

Grabbed my 100k suicide stack for a little over $1000. If it moons then great, but if it dumps to zero then it's not that huge of a loss.

>>17401266
Okay anon, you have convinced me to invest. I don't know how I didn't see the awesome potential of this project before. Thanks, let's become rich.

>>17400858
IM DOING NEITHER BECAUSE THERE IS NO LIQUIDITY AHHHHHHH

>>17401425
No problem dude, I'm here to help out other anons.

>>17401348
PNK has been around since 2018 so stop talking about things you obviously are not aware of.

Im in sats gang discord and we all dumped it a few days ago

>>17401449
nigger. that wasn't me same fagging fuck off

>>17401266
Checked based and jurorpilled

>>17401376
Somehow one of the parts has to be forced to have an arbitration, if one of the parts refuses there's no way to make it participate to the arbitration.
And, based on what legal system the "decentralized court" should decide? They differ from a state to another.
And, let's say one of the parts is told wrong and they refuse to refund the other part, who forces them to refund the part? Based on what law?

>>17401459
no you aren't, you're just a dumb nigger pretending, instead of letting the adults talk; otherwise you would have posted some proof. Simple logic.

>>17401489
Oh my god you're retarded.
It's built into the contract and payments don't execute unless there's no dispute. If there is a dispute, then it's handled by Kleros.

Is this really so hard to wrap your tiny pea brain around?

>>17401489
it's in the contract

- in case of dispute= dispute goes automatically to kleros, arbitration fees are unlocked
- no dispute= no case-no fees withdrawn

simple as

>>17401489
Going back to my example.. the money would be held in escrow (ie shipper does not get the money) until the receiver says its OK. There for if the shipper doesn't want to arbitrate then thats fine.. the receiver isnt out anything.

There are many internal arbitration pacts which you could select for your contract but thats wayyy in the future when the cases get more complicated. Right now its all really simple stuff (ie. did the person do the work according to what the buyer asked for? etc.)

>>17400877
based anon
same here fren, bought 100k at <1c
we're all gonna make it fren

>>17401548
>omg you're retarded
I'm asking legit questions, this kind of answers makes me suspect that fudders are right on the paid pajeets on the board.

>>17401553
>And, based on what legal system the "decentralized court" should decide? They differ from a state to another.
You know jurisprudence, so you should know that there could be infinite appeals, this can maybe work just for little transactions among private citizens.

>>17401663
>I'm asking legit questions
Your question was retarded and if you had done your research you wouldn't have asked it.

PNK fudders are the lowest IQ posters.

>>17401663
>there could be infinite appeals
man.. just actually dyor. Thats all been thought of. And YES this is not for multimillion dollar deals, this is for $10k-200k.

>>17401030
did you even read about the project? how do you think they got so much interest during the ICO in the first place?

>>17401048
most of the team wallets are public, unless you think they have a bunch of tiny 300k wallets to make 500 dollars here and there? seems pretty stupid though

>>17401708
Literal scams get more then 1.5 million. Not sure what the first round was but yeah poor argument.

>>17400858
i got in at 3

>>17401720
there's no way they would do that so they could sell and shills like you could say "TOP WALLETS NOT SELLING SIR", haha, there's no way they would do that and that's never been done before

>>17401678
>muh fudders everywhere
Shut up, you can barely read and you need your meds.

>>17401685
This can work for less than 10k, no one would rely on such cloudy system for serious problems.

>>17401348
last post because I'll be accused of being a pajeet shill, but the amount of disinfo in this thread deserves another reply. Kleros and PNK have been around for almost 2 years. The attention didn't "come out of nowhere," it had a second token sale and not too long ago Vitalik Buterin voiced his support for it.

>>17401744
"haha yeah guys, lets dump our coins right before EthCC where we have 4 talks planned!"

>>17401765
Holy FUCK! TALKS??!?! WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME THERE WOULD BE TALKS

>>17401756
>>17401765
sorry for the fud.
your posts were actually useful

Aragon courts simply has the more marketable product and team.

Tesla is to Edison
as
Kleros is to Aragon.

keep on shilling pnk when the writing is on the wall.

>>17401875
based nigger. finally someone else comes out. i hold 100k kleros and 5k aragon.

aragon is superior. their blockchain is fast as hell too. im hoping PNK can play like beam and grin where it catches up to aragon in the low 100s.

>>17401918
the people in kleros discord are pnk maxis that will never open their eyes to the true power of Aragon courts because it’s not allowed to be discussed in the chats

Want to destroy the SatsGang scums and make money out of it? Read this :

Satsgang current shilled coins :
- Tellor
- Zenon
- VID-T (finished)
- Reserve

Satsgang current coins FUD campaign made to make you sell your bags, them buying in lower and do a PND :

- Kleros (very active). acting that the ones shilling kleros are actually satsgang so people will sell. clever.
- Quant

There must be more, but most of their energy is concentrated on the above ones.

Don't just trust me, check the telegram groups and twitter accounts for yourself.

SatsGang members : Headroom, Lucky, Denny Da Rocket, Rnox33, Blockcein CEO, Bew MewLovesBTC, TehMoonWalker, Bitcoin Brown, Steven Toast, Reserve Protocol Moon, Manifest Johnny, LuckyBazerka, CryptFaux, Denny Daggins, tik_tok47, Monkeyface, Sonic the Hedgehog, Beef, Rich, Tri Gemma + other accounts

HOW TO FUCK THEM OVER :

- Don't buy the shilled ones as you will get hurt, they are in control of the action
- Buy the ones that they are FUDing. Usually those are good coins with lots of upside potential that they want to hold mid-long term or PND them
- If you already bought the shilled ones, dump them for the FUD ones or coins of your choice

>>17401951
RSR??? Satsgang, PNK is obvious satgang PnD, can’t believe this has been going on this long.

>>17401776
Oooyaa ooooyaa oooyaaa https://ethcc.io/#

>>17401947
yes of course because there is more of a benefit to them if it succeeds. kleros is way simpler than aragon so it's not surprising retards here can't understand it.

>>17401951
>Sirs we had this marketing meeting at the curry bazar in mumbai
>After that we have this new BIG strategy, basically we say we are not satsgang and
>WHY SUCH FUD? someone is trying to buy lower!
AHAHAHAHAHA JESUS CHRIST, LOOK AT THIS MONGOLOID HERE, YOUR SHITCOIN IS BEING EXIT SCAMMED AND YOU FROM YOUR SHITTY CALL CENTER KEEP TELLING SHIT, FUCK YOU RANJESH, FUCK YOU RAMAJHABI, YOUR CURRY SCAM IS GOING TO FUCKIN ZERO, YOU KEEP LYING HOPING TO RECOVER SOME RUPEE MORE, ABSOLUTELY CRINGE, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>17401947

>>17401979
>>17401951
PNK was shilled DURING the token sale a fucking month and a half ago. Do you really think satsgang would shill it while they could grab bags without worrying about liquidity? Honestly this is one of the most fucking retarded theories out there. Secondly why would someone on /biz want to warn me about a PnD? If I went around posting about all the scamcoins out there I would have 0 free time left. Honestly things that you are saying and your actions just don’t add up. Nice fud copypaste tho.

>>17402041
looks like pnk is getting owned.

>>17402115
Illiterate scum. Probably a nekker.
>>17401776
Ooooyaaaaa https://ethcc.io/speakers.html

>>17402115
wow

>>17402115
Jorge... you have stooped so low as to shill yourself on /biz after finding out we chose kleros over you? pathetic

>>17402142
FUD Aragon all you want, in one years time, come talk to me.

>>17402040
SatGanger detected. People can check for themselves. All I wrote are facts that can be checked out.

>>17400858
Got my make it stack around 0.017 thanks to shills who got me look into the project. Now buying more weak hand bags.

>>17402175
Let's have a look how your copied model is developing.

>>17402279
Way to photoshop a kleros tweet noob.

>>17402309
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>>17402309
Wrong:
https://blog.aragon.one/update-on-aragon-courts-first-mock-dispute/

>>17402309
LMFAO Jorge... absolutely pathetic behavior coming for a project lead. Shouldn't you be rimming boomers for some money to try and force your 0 talent team to keep going?

>>17402309
https://twitter.com/AragonOneTeam/status/1230271841434054657
Embarrassing, isn't it

>>17402214
Except you’re full of shit
If I asked you to start naming the satsgang leaders by name you would have no clue because you’re talking out of the ass. Satsgang targets below 10mill marketcaps, specifically lower than 8mill. Right now they are focusing on cruzbit again,

Reminder these are Indian fud team fags sent by whales to shake out

I quoted the wrong post there but idc enough to go find the real one now

>>17401875
>>17401918
Cope. Lord Vitalik not aprove Aragon "court"

>>17402457
cope? im coping so hard from getting 100k pnk for 900 bucks. i'm laughing at YOU, nigger.

>>17402622
but you’re gay

>>17402631
(Nigger)

>>17402653
(Fruitbowl)

>>17400858
Neither, protip, anything shilled by 4chan stay the fuck away from it.

all the smart biz money is leaving pnk and going to akro.

SUPREME COURT OF THE INTERNET


IM

WHALING

THIS

SHIT

BITCHES!!!!

>>17404107
and this is why kleros will never make it.