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Living the dream edition

popular brokers:
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq (embed)

basic stock market terminology:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ (embed)
https://nhentai.net/g/297680/

Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp (embed)

Real-time market news:
https://thefly.com/index.php

Live Bloomberg stream:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free charting tools:
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https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.finscreener.com/

Stock screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener

Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

Pump and Dump Advertising:
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Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

Basic rundown on lean hogs:
http://www.theoptionsguide.com/lean-hogs-futures-buying.aspx

List of hedge fund holdings:
https://fintel.io/

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>> No.17323386
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How many shares of GALT are you holding? Remember 1 share will equal $45 in the buyout.

>> No.17323414

>>17323386
>biotech
no man

>> No.17323416

can anyone tell me a bedtime story of how stonks go up?

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>>17323386

>> No.17323438
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bobo on suicide watch

>> No.17323463

SPCE TO THE MOON TOMORROW

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>>17323416
>stonk go up
>you win
>you hand knit a sweater for your former man what say merry go fuck yourself
>bask in winning

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Can someone redpill me on DEAC? Does anyone know how exactly the merger with DraftKings is gonna go down? If I buy shares of DEAC right now, will that somehow translate to shares under another ticker once that deal goes through? I'm kind of a newfag so I don't know how these things work

>> No.17323497

I want to buy puts on Tesla/ Alibaba / QQQ lads. Ideas?

>> No.17323498

>>17323463
im shorting at market open tomorrow
cant wait

>> No.17323517

>>17323260
Hey to this person, do you own 100 of the underlying stock or are you selling naked puts and calls?
This always confused me with iron condors/flys. You sell the puts and calls at the same strike and expiry but do you own 100 of the underlying share to make it covered?, and then following that are you buying OTM strikes for puts and calls to be safe?

>> No.17323527

>>17323491
Supposed to be 1 for 1 exchange from what I read.

>> No.17323533

>>17323498
Enjoy your loss, namefag

>> No.17323537

>>17323497
>on Tesla
Don't.

>> No.17323539

>>17323416
>people start company
>company generate wealth
>people want a share
>stonks go up

>> No.17323549

>>17323416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddGbTNbmD9g

>> No.17323579

>>17323491
Depends on if it's an all-cash or all-stock deal. Since you're aware of this deal, likely everyone else has and knowledgeable traders have already priced in an expected stock buyout. Which means you're not guaranteed a win. Stock could go any direction, except unlike an earnings report, the acquisition could drag on for months or even years. You can google the details on what exactly happens, it's all there on the internet

>> No.17323582

>>17323537
I think it is way overvalued lad. Is there a reason why you think it isn't?

>> No.17323653

>>17323517
Iron condor is just a combo of spreads. The long position covers the short and the broker will hold the difference between strike prices x 100 as collateral (can be cash or any equity, any stock not just the one you're writing).
If I had the underlying stock in that position, that would be a covered strangle. I'm not taking that position, was just curious what the upside was with the insane implied volatility

>> No.17323710

>>17323386
Kek amrn's the only company with a solid future, and if you got in well ahead of the FDA approval you made bank

All the other micro cap garbage you put in the comic is shit.

>> No.17323711

>>17323582
>I think it is way overvalued lad
So did the thousands of other shorts that got rekt from betting against it, the question is if the market thinks it's overvalued and that clearly isn't the case. Your opportunity was from $965 down to $700. It doesn't make any sense to open a long term short position when it's pumping to $1000 with no negative news in sight to cool it down.

>> No.17323753

>>17323653
so the broker actually steps in, when you do these kind of plays? Incredible

>> No.17323822

>>17323711
I see I see. Thank you for the insight.

>> No.17323842

>>17323753
Well, I'm instantly receiving thousands of dollars of credit for taking the position. Either the position expires worthless and I keep the credit or I have to call back. Brokers are required by law to force accounts to be liquid, or else people with $0 accounts could go millions in debt

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>>17323822
It's a trap to use fundamentals to try to call the top of meme spike. Mainly because the thing can continue all crazy for a lot longer than you'd think, and hope to god you haven't bet on a downturn with short term options set to expire before the bulls come to a stop. Fundamentals are more effective, but not very effective even in this case, for calling an eventual bottom after the big sell off.

>> No.17323958

>>17323533
>sell credit spread on SPCE at 33.5
>it moons to 38 in two hours
>dips to 36
>???
>buy back my credit spread for 90% profit

I'll enjoy my "losses", as you put it.

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I told you guys about CSL and AVH...

>> No.17323989

>>17323416
Once upon a time there was a man who wanted to make some money, luckily the big executive corporation he had invested just kept going up and up! So this man decided that it would just keep going and going, so he decided to look after his shares and not sell them. They were his savings after all and he wanted the best for his money. But then all of a sudden some men in suits started selling houses to minorities with nice big loans to help them get into debt buying these houses. Overnight the lovely man's savings were reduced to dust decay and sadness. His son couldn't go to collage and kept playing with his internet money.

The end.

>> No.17324042

>>17323926
VPVR is better for calling the bottom in most corrections. All the Morningstar "fair value prices" are at 1/2 to 1/3 of the stocks actual market values right now. We probably won't reach that level of bear until a recession

>> No.17324048

>>17323926
Not even close lad. I just recently got into trading. So far I have purchased a few shares of XLP, a few shares of golds stocks, and a few shares of energy etfs.I wanted to dabble in riskier investments but I still have not had much exposure to them, its why I asked first. Once again, thank you.

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>>17323485
>>17323539
>>17323549
>>17323989

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>>17323987

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Ooh. Looks like oil wants to go up some more.

>> No.17324143

>>17323416
A kid once asked his dad how he became so rich and his dad decided to tell him the story. He began, It was early 1930s and times were tough. I would go down to the store and get the dirtiest apple that nobody wanted and buy it for 1 cent.. I would sit there and polish it and then walk around trying to sell it for 2 cents. The next day I would do the same thing. I did this for about a month.. then your moms dad died and we inherited everything. The end

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>>17324095
>that chick in the back with corona

>> No.17324184

Should I hold onto CARG for now? Will it get back to where it was before?

>> No.17324245

>>17324095
Literally the perfect waifus

Natty trading a little wild today, I sold ~83% of my position but maybe I should exit entirely. There still is the possibility of the short-cover rally though. I dunno.

Oil I just don’t like right now. I think tides have changed.

>> No.17324257

So when you buy a stock the only thing you get from it is the potential of selling it at a later point? What are stock dividends then?

>> No.17324274

>>17324048
Generally the market always has more upside potential so you should always be wary about going short on a stock, especially if it's in a trend and you're trying to call a top. At this point, I think your goal should be to select good long term stocks or ETFs that hopefully return more than the S&P. Once you're more profitable than the average person, you can always trade with more frequently and see if you're still profitable. Part of the reason short term trading is more difficult is that you're losing that upside potential when the long term outlook matters less and less. You could consider buying leveraged ETFs, providing we stay in a bull market.

>> No.17324284

>>17324257
Stock dividends are the other thing you get.

>> No.17324296

>>17324257
read the op.
dividend is under the basic terminology pastebin

>> No.17324328

>>17324284
How do I get them? Does everyone get them or just the big dick hedge funds?

I bought TSLA last week at 804, already made something like $80 today. When am I going to get dividends?

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>>17323987
protip to /smg/ AVH (ASX) will continue to climb. I expect it'll reach $1+ in a few months if you want easy money. I'm 6.5k ahead.

Basically its the company that invented spray-on skin. It's started making big moves internationally. It has a nasdaq version (RCEL), but that one seems a little less exciting, people realised its value in murica much quicker than cunts here.

>> No.17324374

>>17324328
Nigger don't look so retarded please.

>> No.17324379

>>17324328
Tesla doesn't pay dividends. Not all stocks pay dividends, it is at the discretion of the company.

>> No.17324391

>>17323429
>buying shares instead of calls
holy shit people like this exist. enjoy your retirement at 70 years old, fucking kek

>> No.17324407

>>17324296

>AMD - 23 Year Dividend History | AMD. Historical dividend payout and yield for AMD (AMD) since 1997. The current TTM dividend payout for AMD (AMD) as of February 14, 2020 is $0.00. The current dividend yield for AMD as of February 14, 2020 is 0.00%.

So some companies like AMD don't give dividends?

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMD/amd/dividend-yield-history

Then what would be the actual demand drive for the stock other than the potential payoff when you sell it later?

Does TSLA give dividends? Which companies give the biggest dividends the most frequently?

>> No.17324420

>>17324328
Tesla won't pay out dividends for years and most shareholders don't want them to, they want the company to reinvest that money, grow the company, and destroy their competition. Total return is what should matter to you, which includes dividends and the difference between price.

>> No.17324476

>zuckerberg became billionare at age 23, 80 billion at age 36
>kylie jenner became billionaire at age 21, selling fucking lipstick to her social media zombies
its not fucking fair bros... I want to become a billionaire too but I dont see any guaranteed way

>> No.17324479

>>17324374
I may be retarded but I made $80 today just because I watched Joe Rogan's podcast and realized Elon Musk is only half human

>> No.17324487

>>17324407
>>17324420
Go look at Ford stock and compare it to Tesla. It has a very high dividend yet if you would have invested $10,000 in it last year you would have a fraction of the return of if you invested $10,000 in TSLA.

>> No.17324488

>>17323710
>Kek amrn's the only company with a solid future

https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/18/pharma-doesnt-like-fish-oil-wall-street-funds-sold-amarin-after-big-win-with-heart-drug/

>> No.17324510

>>17324420
If a company never gives out dividends, the only way to make money off a stock is by selling it, right?

Also, does anyone know why WSG (Wanda Sports Group) doubled in price today?

>> No.17324528

> tfw getting dabbed on by crypto right now

F-fuck
I should have learned about crypto earlier. I could have made it. I could have quit this shitty job. I could be living the high life in a northern european paradise.

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here you go gamblers

>> No.17324584

Why is PLUG being shilled so much? Is this a scam?

>> No.17324586

>>17324528
It's not worth the risk
I bought just $4 of Bitcoin and it topped then too, proving that it does indeed top precisely when you buy

>> No.17324615

>>17324586
I remember reading articles about bitcoin when it was still fractions of a penny. I could have got in with dogecoin too. Just a couple hundred bucks and I'd have been set. Instead I work in a factory where I'm seen as machinery to be used at the whim of the owners.

>> No.17324619

>>17324488
>Wall Street hedge funds selling the news after 25% day

>Notable

weekly prescription growth suggests that Amarin is going to beat on earnings soon.

Also, Tripfaggots are too intellectually stunted to let their arguments stand alone in the thread without their clumsily cultivated self-image as a creaky scaffolding. Post physique and maybe I will consider your arguments.

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>>17324476
I have faith that we're all gonna make it bro. If Chainlink took off like it did, then anything is possible.

>> No.17324625

>>17324510
That's the main way to profit off stocks, but there are other ways as well. For example, using what is called a covered call you could sell options on shares you own, basically betting that the price will be under a certain amount at a certain date. Don't do anything like that yet, just focus on being profitable first with long term investments.

>> No.17324666

>>17324625
I don't think I can do options in Robinhood unless I lie about my income, can you do options in Webull more easily? What software or apps do yall use?

>> No.17324692

>>17324615
>tfw high school friends set up a bitcoin fund in late 2009 and bought thousands of them
They all sold when it hit $300 though. Instead of being millionaires they just bought some cars and shit.

>> No.17324704

>>17324619
Please stop taking the bait.

You’re talking to someone whose favorite investment theses are things like Macy’s, Ford, GameStop, HMNY, and Big Five. I don’t blame him for LARPing when his life must be terrible.

>> No.17324806

>>17324692
I imagine that's what most people would do.

Maybe my TQQQ and KO will make me a millionare some day. Maybe climate change will crash the market. Maybe I'll die in a freak accident.

I have 20k in savings. Maybe I should just quit my job and have a blowout week somewhere nice and then end it all. Just live more in one week than I ever did my whole life.

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>>17324619
all I did was post an article about AMRN................

>> No.17324889

Diversify your crypto assets with tachyon protocol IPX , thank me later

>> No.17324962
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>>17324806
Bruh, just invest in TSLA. Everyone is terrified atm, but so many people have short-term memory loss or something. 9 countries have pledged to abandon internal combustion engines by 2025-2030. It guarantees a 1.5k stock in a few years...

>> No.17324976

>>17324806
I know once I "retire" I ain't doing shit for the rest of my life that involves working cause I have to. Fuck that. Alarm clock is going into the trash can. Work clothes is getting tossed. Casual clothes 7 days a week will be the new normal for me. I'm gonna be a down right lazy bastard and I'll be loving every second of it. I can't wait.

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>>17324528
you should be in both stocks and crypto anon.. diversify...

>> No.17325031

>>17324962
No profit without risks, right? I'll DCA into TSLA.

>> No.17325116

>>17325031
Yeah it's a little risky on the back of a huge jump, but its not looking like investors are getting cold feet, looks like the old trend has resumed and it'll continue to rise.

>> No.17325126

How many SPY calls for this?
https://youtu.be/nj-Iwv5NJKg

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>tfw nobody likes money

>> No.17325303

>>17324584
Yes.

Stay the fuck away from garbage tech like hydrogen, completely unworkable. t chemical engineer

>> No.17325402

>>17325031
My DCA is $170, down from $220 as I kept taking profit and then buying the dips.

>> No.17325491

>>17323989
oh no
that sounds really sad :(
at least the minorities lost their houses and had to move back to their own countries, right?

>> No.17325532

>>17324976
>wearing clothes during retirement
nah
Naaaahhhh

>> No.17325547

>>17323381
Tsla to $1000. Daily reminder. Probably by next week too.

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>>17324561
k

>> No.17325632

>>17324962
It's not just their engines or cars, they are also pioneering automated driving, way ahead of the competition, in a decade or so Tesla might take over not only the entire auto market, but also the entire trucking industry, uber/lyft type stuff, and more; also they are pushing into the solar panel market. They might very well become the most successful company of all time

>> No.17325741

>>17325303
>listen to an employee

>> No.17325767

>>17325491
You mean like white people? Go home basedboy cumskins.

>> No.17325801

>>17325632
>tfw driving yourself around will be illegal in 30 years

>> No.17325810

>>17325303
>stay the fuck away from A/C power completely unworkable
>t. electrical engineer from 1900

>> No.17325814

>>17324420
>total return
This meme again.

It's simple and it depends on strategy.
>If you are trying to create a sustainable second income source, possibly never sell.
Divvies don't get any better

>If you are looking to grow your account numbers and are actively looking for a point to cash out at
Don't do dividend stocks

I do a dividend strategy because I absolutely SUCK at timing the market and I want that second income stream cash in hand.

>> No.17325817

>>17325491
No anon your government bailed them out

>> No.17325827

>>17325303
why are people suddenly so interested in this stock then? Went to WSB and all those fuckers were talking about was PLUG this and PLUG that.

I imagine its bots. But I still wonder why.. I guess a bunch of idiots are going to go for it.

>> No.17325974

>>17325547
dont have the money to profit from it anyway. at $800 per share its a rich mans game now

>> No.17325999

>>17324619
When is earnings expected? Obviously they are going to beat and go back to ATH. Gonna buy me some $25 calls babay

>> No.17326002

>>17325303
Isnt that chink tech?
I hear the japs have been investing heavy into hydrogen and are going to be showing off around the Olympic time. You think they’ve got nothing workable?

>> No.17326045

https://twitter.com/squeezemetrics/status/1229993364034072578

Is he right?
What’s he on about?

Maybe I should sell out of UPRO and just buy some OTM SPY calls.

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My returns this year have been insane. This is a near daily occurrence. I keep pulling multiple Gs out every day to prevent myself from going balls deep on nothing but calls and futures.

I am making up for years of losses in a matter of months.

Anyone else catch the platinum breakout? Woowweee, /PL, TSLA NEE and NVDA calls, and a wad of SDGR and PGNY stocks were my big wins. Everything green for me.

It's getting too easy.

>> No.17326103

>>17323842
Ah, so I could only make the play if I have that liquidity/amount in my account to begin with

>> No.17326113

>>17323497
Enjoy losing money.

>> No.17326158

>>17326045
he's just saying, if you're already gambling long with options, you might as well push a little harder.
it isn't really a comparison to the same type of strategy that UPRO represents.
the drawing shows that the trader buying the calls thinks that the V in both directions is higher than the IV the market expects. but that's just for options, and it isn't necessarily correct. so share/levvy ETF shares can still be better than calls, but if you really want to gamble long, do it for real, not halfway

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>LCIguy

>> No.17326181

If you start off with $1,000, all you need is 10 100% days to become a millionaire

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>>17326085
>It's getting too easy.
Slow down and protect yourself. I am familiar with this feel and know well there is another stage coming after if you don't pull yourself out of the high risk stuff now. The longer you indulge in high risk trades the greater the likelihood the other side of the coin will bite you. Then, if you're still running high confidence maybe you double down assuming your luck is still good. Then the trouble multiplies.

>> No.17326208

>>17326085
based. whats your plan right now? what are you buying for tomorrow. i bought my first option today, a call on a shitstock called FCEL

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>>17326169
Whats up ladies?? I wish I could stick around... but uh... I gotta go

LCI to $60

>> No.17326221

>>17323582
For one, it isn't overvalued at all. It is undervalued when taking into consideration its multi-generational technology advantage, efficient made to order manufacturing, company owned direct to consumer sales model, high growth and the simple memery of it all.

Tesla has been the most hated stock for a decade now with no signs of bobos calling it quits. So they just add fuel to the big green dildo fire.

Then there is the TA.
The low iq redditors here will say it is all bullshit, but I have had this entire move mapped out since January, when it began truly became clear. All you gotta do is zoom out and you will see that this is simply a repeat of the stock's 2013 10x in 12 months move. The fibs and fractals do not lie. I've made way too much money playing this shit, and you'd be a fool to fight the trend for now.

TSLA to 1170 in 3 or 4 weeks tops. But go ahead, piss away your money.

>> No.17326222

>>17325801
In 30 years you'll have more fun driving a simulator than a car. See many people riding horses for fun these days?
>>17325303
You're completely right and time will prove it.

>> No.17326259

>>17326222
Checked. And yeah some people are really into horses. It’s still pretty wild that they’re having to murder all these horses at the Santa Anita racetrack. They keep breaking their fucking legs and I guess no one has figured out why.

Racing horses are fuckhuge investments. You’d think someone would’ve figured this shit it and solved it by now.

We need to make some serious advances in autonomous driving before they’re safer than people behind the wheel. But because it’d be such a boon for trucking, we probably will eventually.

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>he isn't long platinum futures

Ngmi

>> No.17326294

Anyone doing anything to prepare for opex on Friday?

>>17326158
I see! I still haven’t figured out this options market thing. And how it somewhat controls the indices.

Some folks on fintwit are saying the Q’s are being prevented from dropping because it’s opex Friday. Any insight on that?

>> No.17326329

>>17326294
>Anyone doing anything to prepare for opex on Friday?

Selling options to collect premium in the hopes that they expire worthless.

>> No.17326353

>>17326329
You don’t just buyback after IV crush? The risk seems high of you hold into Friday.

>> No.17326373

>>17326259
>We need to make some serious advances in autonomous driving before they’re safer than people behind the wheel
It's not fully autonomous but Tesla's autopilot is already statistically safer than a human driving based on their data. Very quickly it will be much better than humans. There's going to be a public discussion on if people should even be allowed to drive themselves around knowing how much more likely they are to get into an accident and kill someone.

>In the 4th quarter, we registered one accident for every 3.07 million miles driven in which drivers had Autopilot engaged. For those driving without Autopilot but with our active safety features, we registered one accident for every 2.10 million miles driven. For those driving without Autopilot and without our active safety features, we registered one accident for every 1.64 million miles driven. By comparison, NHTSA’s most recent data shows that in the United States there is an automobile crash every 479,000 miles.*

>> No.17326375

>>17326353
TBD. Will likely buy back everything Thursday, waiting to see what the market looks like.

>> No.17326387

>>17325810
They aren't wrong though. Hydrogen won't work.

>> No.17326440

>>17326208
Ngmi playing garbage like FCEL and PLUG. Those are trash and always have been. Options on trash are just gonna lose you money.

My plays are a continuation of TSLA calls im holding, 2200 friday exp calls AMZN, long stock PGNY, long stock SDGR, calls on NVDA, 125 strike friday exp meme calls on TDOC, July 100 calls on NVS, March 90 calls SQ, long stock TTD, riding my platinum future long since 969, and some INTC puts for this week (small position, looks a little weak). A starter Put position on CACC (this will go to zero if we ever get another debt crisis)

BYND is perking up. May go in. APPN NVTA CRWD HUM WORK SHOP on the close watch list. Stalking LRCX NOW INTU CONE BLK and some others for long term portfolio.

>> No.17326472

>>17326440
LRCX over AMAT?
Why?

>> No.17326606

>>17326472
Did I say that?

>> No.17326609

>>17325741
>>17325810
>smooth brains
>>17326002
Nothing marketable. You can't store it at energy densities that it's practical, and even if you could (which you can't) it's a bitch to transport

>> No.17326834

the coronavirus is going to win

don't bet against it

All models point to coronavirus being unstoppable worldwide pandemic

>> No.17326846

>>17326834
“In this effort to evacuate 126 people from Wuhan to Frankfurt, a symptom-based screening process was ineffective in detecting SARS-CoV-2 infection in 2 persons who later were found to have evidence of SARS-CoV-2 in a throat swab. We discovered that shedding of potentially infectious virus may occur in persons who have no fever and no signs or only minor signs of infection.

Sebastian Hoehl, M.D. Annemarie Berger, Ph.D. Marhild Kortenbusch Jindrich Cinatl, Ph.D. Denisa Bojkova, M.Sc. Holger Rabenau, Ph.D.

University Hospital Frankfurt, Frankfurt am Main, Germany”

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001899?query=featured_home

>> No.17326864
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Do not put the chances of worldwide pandemic below 10% in your predictions right now

>> No.17326881

>>17326606
You may as well have. You said LCRX for the long term portfolio and didn’t mention AMAT.

I thought maybe you knew something relevant to the two that I don’t.

>>17326834
>long pathogen / short humanity portfolio
Bears are pathetic.

>>17326609
That’s too bad.
Oyasumi, Japan. You had a good run. It’s really not looking good for you...

>> No.17326900

>>17326881
The recent korean superspreader was sick with fever/symptoms. Refused coronavirus test. Then went to a church and wedding.

I'd rather be short humanity here than long the bubble.

>> No.17326938

>>17326900
Sounds like just the thing to introduce more draconian measures, increase government control and slowly integrate authoritarian measures globally.

Never waste a good crisis.

I doubt the new dark age will start in my lifetime.

>> No.17326962

>>17326938
not gonna be a dark age in the worst case, unless your society collapses for some other reason that the virus exacerbates

The biggest problem with a pandemic is peak spread healthcare under supply.

I have no understanding of why the market is pricing in 99% containment chance. Can't entirely be central banks because precarious countries are still rebounding every dip.

Made it so I had to sell out asap yesterday morning because the market is so aggressive at ignoring risks.

>> No.17326991

>>17326962
A healthcare emergency is exactly what we need to show how our superior healthcare system is worth the cost and BTFO Bernie.

Buy big pharma. Don’t touch microcap gambles.

>> No.17327015

>>17326991
USA healthcare's flaws will only be more obvious. A good leader could easily seize the opportunity to get elected in this backdrop vs trump.

That is if they understood what's actually going to happen.

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It's so satisfying that in this virus economic environment savvy investors have identified and gravitated to Bitcoin as a flight to quality. This is the future. Get used to it, boomers

>> No.17327175

>>17326962
its literally because everyone is watching CNN "everything is fine" news anchors who are cheering on impeachment of drumpf instead of telling the public about the impending pandemic disaster thats already on our shores.

>> No.17327187

What's the play tomorrow? I'm holding a long on APPL.

>> No.17327198

>>17327187
>What's the play tomorrow?
Hold what you've got.

>> No.17327206

>>17327175
>>17325974
>>17326208
This is pretty fucking funny
My favorite post trail of the day.

>>17327187
See if there are any knive to catch. Maybe put credit spreads.

>> No.17327248

How high will spce go this week?

>> No.17327250
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How this recession is going to start has finally become clear. Japan and Europe are less capable of stimulating than China, US, etc. and the Japanese economy is already going to shit, Europe isn't doing much better. The virus will push Japan into recession, Europe is next as nasty Chinese data trickles out, finally the rest including China start to fall. This will be an exciting year.

>> No.17327300

>>17327250
The call option bubble of 2020

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>>17327187
market selling my SDGR first thing and will maybe watch it for a dip. they have a conference on the 20th that should do for some hype so will hopefully be able to ride into that.
was really tantalized by this SPCE dip tho as well, but haven't really shopped through today's top 10%ers to find anything exciting.
except maybe this.
might keep it squirreled away for if i want to make a play on 5G ever

>> No.17327340

Renaissance bought 33m dolla bills worth of NRZ this Q

>> No.17327558

I'm all red lads

>> No.17327604

this was a retard time to get into stocks
fuck me

>> No.17327630

CBOE out with some proposals for markets including:
>Reduce the standard round lot size from 100 shares to 10 shares or 1 share for high-priced securities
Possible?
Will I finally get to trade BRKA options?

I’m still learning how things work and they’re already making changes...

>> No.17327711

>>17326440
god damn i hope BYND perks, i'm underwater buying options last week that exp 21st

>> No.17327722

SNSS $.85 EOW guys

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>>17327340
Oh shit new filings!
Big boys making BIG moves. Lots of buys and sells of NRZ

https://hedgefollow.com/stocks/NRZ

ATTN: Biopharma memers
>ATTN: Biopharma memers
ATTN: Biopharma memers
>ATTN: Biopharma memers
BIG moves from the Baker Bros!
If anyone can explain how they have more than 100% of there portfolio in BGNE and it’s worth $0 I’d appreciate it. Did they buy calls? Were they awarded options?

Also actions in AMRN, MTNB, EVFM.

You guys know anything about
Exact Sciences (EXAS)
Kodiac Science (KOD)
?

Link:
https://hedgefollow.com/funds/Baker+Bros+Advisors

>> No.17327858

>>17324407
For companies AMD and TSLA that are still building their position in the market and put a lot into R&D it doesn't really make sense to pay out dividend. Once they are in a more stable position they will likely start paying out. Ultimately it's something that the shareholders decide.
Google is an interesting case. Their share vote structure makes it so shareholders have no way to outvote the founders. They never paid out any dividend despite having more money than they know what do do with.

>> No.17327862

SGEN also looking promising again

Big position for Baker Bros, and they’ve been killing it with biotech lately

>> No.17327874

>>17327630
>Reduce the standard round lot size from 100 shares to 10 shares or 1 share for high-priced securities
>Possible?
Sure. Even cutting it down to 50 would make many stocks more accessible for options.

>> No.17327890

>>17327874
Makes sense though right?
Companies won’t do stock splits anymore, so brokers are getting around it with partial shares, now CBOE figuring out a way to deal with the problems of options for high priced stocks.

>> No.17327919

>>17324420
Run the quantitative on TSLA.

>plausible demand for now and the future
>share of market now and in future
>is the money sunk in today better than putting it in another investment (refer time value of money)
>look at what the market values them at, compare to other companies
>compare current market valuation and ratio it against assets/liabilities
>consider how long it will actually take for the company to realistically become profitable
>consider future leadership and their chances of continuing to execute etc in Elon's shadow (likelihood of continued success)

The list goes on. I can tell you I have run some quantitative on TSLA. The market is being irrational. I do not see any time within the next 15 years Tesla dominating automotive markets. Trust in AI automobiles is still considerably low, enough to warrant concerns over future profitability and margins of TSLA.

Keep in mind TSLA is a very niche company, and only has a small number of income streams. Considering the market now is valuing TSLA close to Amazon's total assets (a company with a plethora of income streams) I'm hoping you can see the issues.

Considering seemingly more irrational investors entering the market, TSLA may be up to 1500 within the next 3-4 years, but long term I don't see that as continually being supported, pending the world economy, though I could be wrong.

>> No.17327934

>>17327206
you think im here to entertain you motherfucker? corona is coming this shit is not a joke. get prepared

>> No.17327956

>>17327919
>. I do not see any time within the next 15 years Tesla dominating automotive markets. Trust in AI automobiles is still considerably low, enough to warrant concerns over future profitability and margins of TSLA.
You dont need to use the AI but I feel like too many people are using it already actually. The feds were investigating wether it's even working with all those tesla ai deaths. People want ai driving. Once their gigafactorys getting rolling the volume of market share can really start to shift to Tesla favor.

>Considering the market now is valuing TSLA close to Amazon's total assets (a company with a plethora of income streams) I'm hoping you can see the issues.
Are you saying assets of Amazon to market cap of tesla? Market cap is usually always higher than actual assets. Amazon is over 1 trillion market cap which obviously isnt part of their assets. I dont think that comparison is helpful.

>> No.17327979

>>17327934
>$800 is a rich mans game
>CNN is the problem because they all orange man bad
>for my first option, I’ll buy FCEL calls with 200% IV

Fucking retard hahahahaha

>> No.17328042

>>17327956
"Once their gigafactories getting rolling the volume of market share can really start to shift to Tesla favor".

What are the demand numbers. I still don't see that many TSLAs on the road. If I remember correctly used TSLAs aren't exactly in demand either. And in terms of AI cars. Yes, I've talked to many individuals about AI cars. I am somewhat confident in saying at least 36-46% are against it, MINIMALLY. It's quite plausibly greater than this.

I know market cap is usually higher than actual assets. The question is to what degree. By rough estimate, TSLA would have to have large demand for at least 5 to 10 years to get anywhere near a price to earnings ratio. Granted that's a guess but realistically, there is far more demand for all of Amazon's derived profits and so on in comparison with TSLA's. Mind you if TSLA starts to grow enough, and demand for EVs actually grow enough, I'd say more competitors would pop up as well, not to mention already existing manufacturers creating competing models. Who's to say 10 years from now Toyota doesn't make an EV that outsells TSLAs? There's just too much improbability of it's current price being supported within the next 5-10 years.

You can definitely make some money on it, but my concerns would be over exiting issues, considering stop losses, if the stock drops too considerably, can give lower than expected returns, and there's even a possibility and actual plausibility of it giving less than what it was bought at when considering panic sell offs etc. Risk profile it and maybe you'll get a more definitive answer.

>> No.17328077

>>17327919
Wow you did quantatives?????? If you are not gonna post your numbers so that I can laugh at your methodology don’t refer to your “quantatives”.

But of course it is not rational. Don’t need a spreadsheet to conclude that.

>> No.17328093

>>17328077
Guessing you're in TSLA and you also haven't done economics courses, correct?

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VIX down by 1.3%

>> No.17328132

>>17328093
Post your “quantatives” faggot. You are wrong on both accounts

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>>17327919
Conclusion is fine but you are overthinking it. Tesla won't trade on fundamentals, beyond how good the last earnings report was, for some years to come. It will continue to be very volatile with a large range. A couple bad news events like a bad earnings right off the heels of some bearish story and it'll drop hard, bounce just as hard a few months later. I like to say Tesla trades like a penny stock and there is no reason to believe this tendency has ended.

>> No.17328157

>>17328147
Fair observation. I may buy the next drop now.

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>>17327175
>its literally because everyone is watching CNN "everything is fine"

hmm what? Are you joking? CNN is by far the #1 fear spreading msm channel regarding coronavirus. I literally can't avoid news about how to world is about to end tomorrow if I accidentally drop by their website. It's on their front page everyday, much bigger than any orange man bad news, and that's saying something.

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>>17328157
>I may buy the next drop now
Absolutely do. Careful about knife catching. Wait for good clear signs of reversal. Tesla is an excellent stock for swing trading as it has a tendency to hold trends for a solid few weeks or more before reversing. If you're more of the long hodl persuasion i still recommend taking partial profits during climbing moves to free cash up to buy good solid dips.

>> No.17328209

>>17328168
"Buy the rumor sell the news"

Or own and create the news, and focus intensely on it for whatever reasons (more clicks=more money) and so on.

>> No.17328216

>>17328208
That's my intent. I used to be exclusive to longing but 100 dollars today is better than 100 tomorrow. Thanks for the advice.

>> No.17328219

>>17327175
>>17328168

Now that impeachment is over, coronachan is on all cylinders for legacy media's overhyping machine. I don't understand how corona-bears have so little notion of the pulse of the country. The fact is people are probably exercising slightly more prudence in light of the current epidemic in china, not less. We certainly aren't going up as fast this year, as we were last.

I am starting to get tired of all the corona fear mongering. 4chan is turning into cnn.

>> No.17328222

>>17328209
Cable news was a mistake.

Old people really love that shit though, and they’re the ones that should know better. They probably read newspapers most of their lives.

>> No.17328227

>>17328219
Kekkies we’re much more Fox News than CNN. Especially with all the precious metal shilling.

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>>17328209
Mainstream media has become disgusting. The 90's ACTION NEWS EXTREME thing gave way to 00's 'we tell you what to think and aren't shy about tacitly admitting it' quite smoothly.

>and why that's a good thing

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Copper AND gold are green. That’s not really supposed to happen.
Turns out I sold Barrick right before they pumped pretty hard. Fuckkng sucks. They’ll probably keep pumping too, pretty sure they have exposure to both.

Palladium is fucking INSANE!! Another 9+% already today!!
Look at this shit, last year I thought “no way I’m not buying the top, this had been such a dramatic move.” But godDAMN!!

>> No.17328351

Tachyon (IPX) is a decentralized internet protocol that aims to create a Libre, Secure and Private Internet for you, their astronomical success makes it an incredible project with lots of potential

>> No.17328384

>>17327300
we really need to rein in call option backed securities

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>>17328384
Heh

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AMD is reaching ludicrous speeds. Nothing will ever stop the steady marching up of my portfolio. E pluribus unum et esto perpetua!

>> No.17328728

>>17324666
You have to lie about income. They all know you will, they arent going to check. It's just for liability so that if you lose it all and sue them then can claim you lied and such lose any suit against them. They're not gonna verify your income dont worry.
>>17323381
Also, TSLA to $1000 by Friday. Should have bought when anons told you too last week.

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I'm tempted to buy as much CMI shares as possible to lock the juicy dividend but Zacks just shat on it so i'm not sure anymore, would that be a smart move?

>> No.17328799

China’s basically using a self-reported psycho pass system to decide who gets to go to work and public place. I love it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-qr-code-idUSKBN20B10T

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>>17324666
the secret to getting what you want in life is to lie.
Robinhood options? you're the CEO of a fortune 500 company who makes millions a year. BOOM. approved.
Decent career that pays +$20/hr in a cozy office? you're the hotshot tech graduate with a perfect 4.0 GPA who volunteers sunday afternoons rescuing newborn kittens from hostile home environments. You have a nice girlfriend and cook meals every other day. You give your interviewer the recipe to your famous thanksgiving mashed potatoes (the trick is clarified butter).
Securing a loan on your first home? You've got a +700 credit score, never missed a payment in your life, got cash on you RIGHT NOW FOR THE VERY URGENT DOWN PAYMENT, and you brought your banker homemade cookies (the trick is still clarified butter)
Doctor tells you you need to lose weight or you'll risk type 2 diabetes? Hah, tell that nerd you graduated from harvard law with a minor in nutritional science. You call him a bigot as you explain that your wild field surveys of tumblr and reddit yield CONCLUSIVE evidence that being fat doesn't mean you're unhealthy. You tell your doctor you make such healthy choices, you don't even eat butter. You use CLARIFIED butter because you're a pretentious faggot who has to let everyone know you're better than them. The best part is you are better than them, because no one can't believe it's not butter.

>> No.17328823

>>17328800
I knew that Amd profile looked a little furry.

It’s called ghee and you know it is you bastard

>> No.17328832

Where my ASX boys at? Made bank with CWY today and gonna make more with AX1 tomorrow.

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>>17328823
i might be slightly fucked up rn but wtf is a ghee?

>> No.17328887

>>17328865
clarified butter, it's called ghee

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>>17328823
>>17328887
I have literally not once in my life heard clarified butter referred to as ghee. Swear on my life, and my yeezys. Guess you learn something new every day.

>> No.17328943

>>17328916
As a militant far-centrist, I’m miring that civil axis.

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>>17328943
Why thank you. It's my fundamental belief that an individual retain economic freedoms in an environment that fosters minimal barriers to entry, albeit with enough regulation to ensure that there's no sawdust in my rice krispies =]

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>>17327558
How?
All green as far as I can see

>> No.17329011

>>17327250
>the Japanese economy is already going to shit
It has been shit since 1990.

>> No.17329037

Noob here looking into options, just trying to understand not planning on buying any

When looking at the options at my broker (europoor) i noticed that the conversion rates are very low compared to that i read here and elsewhere in some guides. So what i mean is that most options are for 100:1 or 10:1 of a base share, so i would need to buy 100 or 10 contracts to get one share!? that makes the leverage and thus potential profit very low doesnt it?

Why is it that some contracts only have 100:1, but others 1:100?

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>>17329037
All options are 1 contract = 100 controlled shares. You must be reading some jank shit on a slav broker.

>> No.17329172

>>17328916
based centrist

>> No.17329176

I told you faggots to buy MCPHY a month ago

>> No.17329230

>>17329098
its one of the biggest brokers, but nevermind it seems i confused options with so called optionsscheinen which seems to be some jewish trickery

>> No.17329233

Sold AMD yesterday at +250%, had been holding for about 2.5 years I think. Also sold SPCE yesterday right at the peak at +130% having held it for about a month. Now I have £14k sitting in my account, might buy some shitty african shares like JMIA or AAF.

I'm slowly exiting most of my positions, but I'll hang on to stuff like MSFT, GOOG and V. The big recession is just around the corner imo. Japan and Germany on the brink, coronavirus crippling China whose economy is already complete bullshit and unsustainable, America with its equally bullshit growth these past 2 years, e-whores giving stock advice and p&d scams going mainstream like TSLA, SPCE etc.

Time to sell everything and buy puts on everything.

>> No.17329293

>>17329233
>paying capital gains taxes to take your money or if good companies and put it into unprofitable African imitations of good American companies.

Please reconsider this. But I do like focusing on quality large cap names. If banks keep selling off I may start buying. But I do like MA and V.

>> No.17329338

>>17329293
>the whole world must play by the rules of america
I do not pay a penny in tax on any of my profits.

>>unprofitable African imitations of good American companies
no offence anon but this is a supremely bad take. Ditch the emotion and attachment to what you hold and your nationality otherwise you are set to lose money

>> No.17329339

>>17323386
None yet.
I will buy a stash though.

>> No.17329382

i lost $11,000 shorting TSLA

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>>17329382

wish I was only shitposting

>> No.17329417

The ABBV buyout of SNSS rumor is getting articles now
https://stockpence.com/featured/buyout-sunesis-pharmaceuticals-snss-abbvie-abbv/amp/

>> No.17329421

>>17329338
Oh right I wasn’t paying attention to the pound sign. It’s late I’m tired.

I’m not saying reconsider Jumia because it’s not American and only American stocks are good. (Unfortunately I am a GSK investor. I hope walmsley doesn’t have more missed quarters in store for me). I’m saying it because using a foreign business model in an economy and infrastructure that isn’t set up for it is risky.

What really but me off of Jumia was a piece in The Economist (I think) podcast where a journalist rode along with one of the Jumia delivery people and it sounded like such a disaster.

No risk no reward I guess. Do what you will.

>> No.17329505

>>17329405
Well I hope you learned how dangerous shorting is, especially shorting heavily shorted companies. Especially when they have a diehard fan base.

I’m still short Marriott and it’s fucking me up. But I can’t imagine they won’t have to cut numbers.

I like this analysis:
>>17327919
He doesn’t come to the conclusion that the market is wrong and he’s smarter than Wall Street and it’s time to do ze big short.

>> No.17329516

>>17329505
shorting isnt dangerous
shorting a cult stock is dangerous

people are idiots and will pay any price for "the future!!!1"

>> No.17329626

>>17329417
You think $1 soon?

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>>17329417
>now
>2 weeks ago

>> No.17329733

>Tesla made it above 924
Well, cya above 1k

>> No.17329747

>>17329733
Nice. I still have some meme calls from 2 weeks ago.
I will buy some present for my sister with that money.

>> No.17329777

>>17326991
>Burgers feel feverish
>Can't afford to see doctor due to 3 million dollar deductible
>Go untreated and spread pandemic.
>That'll show 'em

>> No.17329780

>>17329505
I don't know enough about options yet to pull this off. Nor have I allocated time, yet. There's so much money that can be accumulated though. Man...

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thoughts on buying roku as soon as market opens?

>> No.17329813

>>17329653
That's fair, didn't see it until today

>> No.17329814

Absolute brainlet here. Why do you guys trade single stocks vs. investing into index funds? Do you do both? If I'm a retard should I just invest in index funds or is it possible to learn the market if I'm not a math whiz?

>> No.17329826

>>17329626
Yes

>> No.17329834

>>17329814
I have index funds in my actual retirement account. My learning/fun account is mostly retarded.

>> No.17329836

>>17329798
What makes you think the market will buy in?

Also, to anyone and everyone. What are your plays before week end?

I'm long VZ, SACH, ASRV, and NSRGY, but want to make some small plays weekly if I can. Quant and research takes a while for longs so maybe I'll throw some money here or there just to accumulate quicker. What are your plays?

>> No.17329848

>>17329834
Do you guys trade with 5 figure accounts for fun or is it a couple hundred/thousand that you guys move around and take profits from and then put those into index funds?

>> No.17329858

>>17329814
Because I think I can beat the market and consistently do so by a sizeable amount. An index fund has NVDA and KHC and Id rather just have the NVDA. Or MSFT. Or AMD. Or V.

If you do not trust in your ability to beat the market then get some index/world/US ETF. No shame in that.

>> No.17329881

>>17329814
Fees, etc. I see no positive to index funds other than diversification. But it generally seems to come at a small premium. I like finding companies I believe will grow in the coming years. Due diligence pays it's rewards and indexing is seemingly a bit of just "hoping for the best" because you didn't do your research.

Michael Burry also talked about index funds being a considerable bubble as well so, I think that raises some questions.

Realistically you shouldn't invest unless you actually know what you're doing. You don't always need to run full out quantitave for long plays as there's many economic factors but just "hoping for the best" is a good way to get blindsided, especially if you don't know how to measure risk. I could go on and on but I'm not getting paid for it so do your own learnings and have at it.

>> No.17329885

>>17329848
Depends. Active trading 5 figures. Passive 6 figures

>> No.17329902

>>17329826
why? buyout rumors came out weeks ago, what makes you think this isn't already priced in?

>> No.17329938

>>17329881
Are the sources at the top of the sticky a good place to learn more about what you're talking about and are there any additional sources you'd recommend? How long have you been trading? What kind of background do you have? I am fascinated by you wizards.

>> No.17329944

>>17329836
I have none desu
I will spend my time looking at some hydrogen tech stocks maybe. Im interested.

Other than that... Nothing so far.

>> No.17329947

>>17329858
Do you invest in other assets besides stocks? Do you trade FT or do you have another job?

>> No.17330009

anime is gay you guys are gay

>> No.17330015

>>17329938
I'd start with statistics, economics, accounting, and various other finance related subjects. Understanding the social relationships with regards to capital movement is helpful too. Knowing sales and what drives them, and so on.

Khan Academy is a bit elementary and the guy repeats himself way too much IMO. I personally did security for a bit and studied like crazy during that time (got someone else to subsidize my education with no debt attached). Ran plenty of models, theoreticals, researched, learned some not very well known information with regards to finance, etc.

I think the biggest thing is being able to piece it all together and being able to see into the future with a pretty clear vision. This has helped me immensely. Engineering a transfer or transfers of capital from someone else to yourself. That's all it really is. Kinda like a bunch of pipes with valves that you can control, just a bit or sometimes way more complicated.

EdX has some online courses that I enjoy much more than Khan Academy. The problem is that EdX doesn't exactly do great testing, so gauging your actual knowledge would be something you would have to do. Perhaps both edx and khan academy can compliment each other in this sense.

Outside of that, tax books with the tax code help, accounting, MBA books. Just look for literature that has substantiation and doesn't seem fluff and like it wants to sell you something. Get rich quick stuff is usually a bit of an iffy area as well. If you know what you're doing though, it's not that hard at all.

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I want that goddamn KO $60/share. I need it.

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>>17329947
Options, Warrants, Resources, Stocks
>>17330009
True
We are cute yuri anime girls

>> No.17330064

>>17330055
Today brother

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>>17330064

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where are my zoomchads at? ZM on top

>> No.17330241

>>17323416
Wake the fuck up! The markets are going to open soon!

>> No.17330277

Premarket has both SNSS and SPCE pumping. It is Wednesday, my dudes

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It's cold

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Daily reminder that stocks only allowed to go up.

>> No.17330300

>>17329848
>RH options gambling account 4 figures
>Real investments 6 figures

>> No.17330331

When do you sell SPCE? Kinda want to get out at $39, however SPCE has a lot of potential so unsure, thoughts?

>> No.17330346

What are your thoughts on GOOGL?
I do not see it too often here and it gives me consistent LEAP returns since forever.

>> No.17330398

QQQ calls contracts? What is going on with this and how do I make money on contracts with this?

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Anybody know of a site where you can quickly look up a company's authorized shares, outstanding shares and treasury shares?

Preferably without having to register a user account.

>> No.17330407

>>17330331
I'm actually not sure, kinda scared to hold through the thursday presentation

>> No.17330411

>>17324391
I'm still dipping my penis into calls and puts, just started investing about a month ago. Slowly but Shirley I will become an options expert.

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>>17330346
Alphabet is evil but they do own 7% of SpaceX.

>> No.17330435

>>17324561
>Implying I can read cursive
Fuck off boomer write in English

>> No.17330501

This fucking VanEck Vectors Semiconductor ETF bullshit needs to go down.

>> No.17330532

>>17324561
90% of technical analysis is bullshit

>> No.17330544
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Why aren't you buying AG and letting this madlad make you rich?

>> No.17330557

>>17330544
Why should I?
Silver is cheap as fuck though, I will give you that.

>> No.17330568

SPCE continues printing money

>> No.17330636

Get Tim Apple in here, I want an explanation as to why the tech market isn't in free fall.

>> No.17330652

>>17330636
because apple is a main stay name in the tech sector, people realize apple will bounce back. theres no point selling stock. buy more.

>> No.17330701

>>17330568
SPCE is up pre market, it will pump to at least 40 today before lunch, dip back down, then climb slightly before market close. Screenshot this

>> No.17330715

>>17330636
>He did not buy the dip
Apple will slightly adjust guidance by 1% and thats it.
They did not declare bankruptcy, they declared that they had a two week break in one country.

There was zero reason why any other company should be affected and it was clear that this was just Europe panic selling as usual.

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>>17330283
>fahrenheit
okay, boomer

>> No.17330731

>>17330715
Thanks Tim. Why didn't you tell this to me yesterday? I could have made a couple extra shekels.

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>>17330701
capped

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17330741

What does /smg/ think about RMTI?

Fundamentals seem there, looks like it's about to trend upwards, but afraid I'm into the wrong Biotech

>SNSS

I'm waiting for a dip

>> No.17330743

What is PLUG doing? Shit is going wild?

>> No.17330745

>>17330557
Because not only is silver a super safe investment but it also currently has meme power

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>>17330745
I hold a lot of silver myself so I know about that, but AG has meme power?

>> No.17330788

>>17330743
Hop on, its the new and hip SPCE

>> No.17330797

>>17330781
it's the tip of the silver meme spear that's going to pierce the heavens

>> No.17330816

does anyone know why spce is only up 14% premarket. are we losing steam.

>> No.17330817

I told you about BigDish, lads. Up 10% yesterday, up another 8% today.

>> No.17330829

>>17330816
premarket is low volume so1bo1s pumping. wait till market opens and all the high school chads start buying.

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BigDish to the moon.

>> No.17330855

Sitting on $16k after cashing out spce gains what’s the next fomo fest?

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>>17330839
>>17330817
Good for you fren

>> No.17330880

How are we playing ONTX today

>> No.17330882

>>17324528
question to all /smg/ bros. How many of u are in crypto? I'm deep in it and have been profiting well. Only started following smg to diversify earnings. Stonks are much slower pace than crypto. Weekends and holidays closed, wtf. Why not get into crypto? It's still really early. if u take time to research, or follow the research of others, you will do quite well

>> No.17330893

>>17330855
This. I have never done contracts and have about 60 I'm ready to lose. I NEEEDD THISS

>> No.17330906

>>17330882
I made some money off of it but it's too stressful for me to try and make meaningful gains.

>> No.17330941

>>17329881
>Michael Burry also talked about index funds being a considerable bubble as well so, I think that raises some questions.
Not really. Evidence that we're in a index fund bubble would raise questions. Michael Burry has been wrong about tons of things, he was bullish on GameStop before it crashed and still has millions tied up in it. It was his biggest position in 2019. Before this and Scion fund, he was heavily invested in water, waiting for a drought or crisis that never came.

With enough contrarians, everything is a bubble. A handful of them will occasionally get it right, but usually they fail to predict other bubbles. The media should stop glorifying Burry and other famous short sellers. His short position leading up to 2007 was very impressive, but he still cannot predict the future.

>> No.17330952

TSLA $920 premarket

>> No.17330960

>>17330346
Great investment and leap target

Its undervalued

>> No.17330979

>>17330952
Rip bears

Almost shortable but i m ot feeling it atm

>> No.17330984

>>17330880
We make a fake out and press the buy button on ONTX, but set a sneaky buy limit for 1.20$
When the Bogs crash ONTX we cancel the order and buy MSFT 200C 7/3.

>> No.17331023

>>17330941
>heavily invested in water, waiting for a drought or crisis that never came.
He's not wrong.
He's just too early again like always.
I don't think that he's wrong on gme either. Just too early again.
The mechanism which is supposed to create the etf bubble makes sense but I don't see it crashing anytime soon. I'd suggest the opposite. Now is the time to buy to profit off the potential bubble.

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>he shorted TSLA
>again

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I'm to deep in tech stonks and bioshits lads, have any different industry recommendations for me frens?

>> No.17331101

Yay my SPCE shares are in the black again.

>> No.17331114

SPCE is going to reach new heights today. Dare I say, into space?

>> No.17331115

https://www.sharesmagazine.co.uk/news/market/6793328/Director-Deals-Bigdish-Plc-Ord-Npv-DISH

Another reason I'm right to shill BigDish.

>> No.17331141

Everyday for the last week some asshole company has said something negative. Maybe, just maybe we can get a green day with minimal crabbing.

>> No.17331180

Damn, plug is on fire. I sold expecting a correction today.

>> No.17331193

What do I do with my Summer Child stock? Do I have to shill it until newfags show up in the summer and buy my bags?

>> No.17331198

>>17331075
>different industry
These things do not exist.
Only AMD and Apple now

>> No.17331200

Reminder to buy TMDX this morning

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Is this a good return? It's all one company's stock. I can't decide if I want to leave it alone or not. I know nothing about this.

>> No.17331213

>>17331193
What the fuck u talking about?
Why do you use your old trip?

>> No.17331218

>all green in premarket
I don't know a comfier feeling

>> No.17331231

>>17331222
>>17331222
>>17331222


>>17331222
>>17331222
>>17331222
NEWNEWNEWNEWNEW
>>17331222

>>17331222

>> No.17331232

>>17331023
I think technology increasingly favors large companies as the complexity of their products increases and drives out their smaller competitors. It makes sense to me why large cap stocks are receiving a disproportionate amount of money. There may still be a bubble but just 'more money flows into index funds' doesn't prove it and a lot of that worry is created by people with a vested interest in actively managing money.
>He's just too early again like always.
That is very true, but his timing is so off he may as well be wrong.

>> No.17331252

>>17331211
What stock is it? That's a reasonable return for passive investing, but I question if you're not better off in an ETF with more diversification.

>> No.17331257

TSLA is incredible. I have nothing against the stock or company, but I do really want it to crash hard and fast just to rope soiboys

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>>17331252
Sherwin Williams (SHW)
I see my available investment options on the Fidelity page and it looks like SHW has the highest rate of return but I'm not sure if these are my only options. I don't work for them anymore so I know I could cash out and diversify but from what I've read 25% return is far above average (especially when I'm just letting it sit there) so I don't know if I'd be better off redistributing all of this or just leaving it alone. It's climbed a lot since I started working for them and just keeps going higher.

>> No.17331409

>>17331023
The notion of the etf bubble is obvious. Most popular etfs, just in general, are QQQ and SPY. What are their top holdings? AAPL, MSFT maybe some others, I'm focusing on those two. Most passive investors have most of their funds in a SPY like fund that tries to match it's performance so it would have similar positions in the same companies. Stock price goes up, etf goes up but not as much. That 6% in AAPL counts for a lot, and it's in both popular etfs. Then the opposite is true, etf gets bought, a portion goes directly to AAPL and acts as a scaffolding, holding up the price by diversification seeking investors. As the price rises, it takes on more of the value of the etf(until it's rebalanced, but it would still be more of the % of the etf if the etf is market cap weighted). So a long effect happens. Stock up etf up stock up etf up. This is all fine as long as the stock goes up. When that individual stock is tanking, the value of the etf will also tank and subsequently bring down other stocks within it. Crazy system. I saw a chart on here that says not to invest in the #1 stock of an etf because over time it underperforms the etf as a whole. Well, if that remains true going forward, these trillion dollars mega caps will have a haircut at some point because they have been outperforming etfs.

>> No.17331424

>>17331321
That isn't a high rate of return for owning a single stock and there is no guarantee that it will consistently return that much in the coming years. I don't know anything about SHW, but I think you would be better off putting it into an ETF or taking some of the SHW profit and putting it into other stocks. There should be enough resources in the OP to get to started.

>> No.17331454

>>17331424
Alright. I'll look into it then. I appreciate the quick advice.

>> No.17331539

>>17331424
>25% in a month isn't high
shut the fuck up retard

>> No.17331684

>>17331539
>Month
Learn to read if you're going to call anyone retarded, retard. The one month return for SHW is -1.13%. The average yearly return is lower than the return of the S&P 500, and he is risking all his capital on a single stock, that's not worth it.
>>17331454
No worries. I made some similar replies earlier in the thread if you want to look through my posts. TL;DR your focus should be on beating the market with long term investments before doing anything else. Most money mangers cannot manage to do that so it's harder than you may think.

>> No.17331750

Enph knows no stoppin

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>Literally everything green
>Dat Nvidia
>Dat Amat
>These apples
BASED
AND
GREENPILLED

>> No.17331882

Do I buy SPCE today or am I FOMOing like a retard?

>> No.17331976

>>17323381
Icannot hide this feeling anymore this urge to shout I AM GAY i am gay and I hold chainlink

>> No.17331990

any reason not to fly to china and invest in all the fallen chinese stocks that will obviously rise after corona's over?

>> No.17332077

>>17331684
you're right, my bad :)

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>>17332077

>> No.17332365

I keep buying these SNSS calls

>> No.17332760

Should I be buying GALT? It can only go up right?

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>>17326864
better version

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Feels comfy trading at leverage.

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>> No.17333262

>>17331115
Ok anon, I'll add it to my watch list and put £50 in tomorrow AM

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>>17333184
maybe they were right when they said it was the new tesla stock

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>>17323381
>komoe on the front page
good day
stocks are also up

>> No.17333651

Next week Tesla will be more worth than any other company earning most of its money by selling cars combined!

Remember, it's not a car company, they just happen to sell cars.

>> No.17333734

>>17331881
I want to neck myself, waiting for funds to transfer into account and missing all this

>> No.17334058

>>17331882
It's hovering between yesterday's peak and bottom, I'd watch and see what it does today, if dips to or below 30 again, buy