/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17206238
Since when is 40k rich lmao

>>17206238
Communism quite literally requires the liquidation of the middle class. You’d think these idiots would learn by now that the middle class is the engine of prosperity, but no, communists are fucking retarded

>>17206260
It's a trend line, retard

>>17206358
Trend line with just 10 observations... LMAO

>>17206358
The point is that people making anything greater than 35k voted against bernie. That's not rich vs poor. That's extreme poverty vs everyone else.

>>17206344
It requires taking the top 10% and making them middle class

>>17206238
Communism 101. The goal is to get the poor to overrun the productive of society, those communists can’t compete against in a free market, so they can take control of the state and dominate human life.
If you ever get a chance, kill commies on sight.

>>17206378
Wrong. If you can't even read a simple graph, maybe you shouldn't be talking politics

>>17206238
>>17206358
>>17206398
Idiots, a trend line with n=10 MEANS NOTHING, the distribution could be due to chance.

>>17206386
the whole communist manifesto is detailed around abolishing the middle. you're a jew on the politburo, or a serf

>>17206238
>rich
>neighborhoods
How can 2% of the population have so many voters?

>>17206238
The middle class doesn't exist retard, its not a real thing. You are either working class, petit-bourgeoisie (some of /biz/) or bourgeoisie. Or you're lumpen AKA a poor parasite (most of /biz/).

The middle class is already dying. But communism will make it even worse. Fuck commies.

I would eat poor people if they tasted good. But they dont.

>>17206456
>>17206489
>>17206397
>>17206344
I dont get these weird panicky panty pissers.

Why are you screaming communism over a guy who wants to up taxes on the rich, to a level much much lower than the heights it used to be at?
And yes up taxes on the middle class as well, while cutting expenses for them.

>>17206621
oh to be this blissfully naive

>>17206621
hahahahaha no please, go on, that's hilarious

>>17206685
>>17206707
So the argument is, slippery slope + hes hiding his real intentions?

>>17206621
Nobody actually paid the 50s tax rates you're always pointing to but if you weren't economically retarded you wouldn't be a Bernout in the first place.

>>17206456
It is not.
t. someone who actually read the manifesto

Why is /biz/ even defending the Bezos-tier rich? You will literally never achieve even 1% if their success. The left isn't going after people with 100k net worth.

>>17206621
>While cutting expenses for them

Lol hahahahahaha this is what you bootlickers actually believe?

>>17206621

"Rich" to Bernie is anyone making over 45k/yr.

The middle class gets erased under his plans

>>17207029
Lmao did you just ignore tax loopholes?

And who is an economic retard?
Trump literally cut taxes on the middle class temporarily, and upped spending and put the difference on the 23 trillion dollar credit card.
And the tax cuts ended up having the majority going to the rich.

>>17207120
I'm not defending the rich, I'm defending myself from globohomos that want to perpetuate mass immigration, faggotry, mass disarmament, anti-white bullshit, whore culture, degeneracy. B-but at least I get to go to a shitty State University for free now!

>>17207147
bootlickers are people who defend capitalism, Goofy.

And by the way, i am a capitalist, but im not stupid enough to believe that our current system doesnt need "socialism" as a lap band for capitalism eating everything.

>>17207147
>Bootlickers
>Coming from the guy with cooperate cock buried in his throat
k

>>17206344
checked. All commies deserve bullets to the head. We will track everyone who votes for these socialists and herd them together for execution one day.

>>17206621
you are either a kike shareblue shill with a propaganda to push or brain dead NPC

>>17207120

No one is defending them. That's a commie strawman. Everyone is against the fact that the middle class gets butt fucked 100% of the time whenever Democrats try this shit. The ACA is the most recent example. Nothing happened to the rich, the poor got shit tier health insurance, and everyone in the middle class had their premiums double.

>>17207178
Oh, you're a typical pussy conservative who was preyed upon by the people you passionately protect.
They literally lie to you with the strategic agenda of scaring you into thinking that theres gonna be open boarders and gun grabbing.
It isnt real, goofy.

Immigration isn't actually a real issue in the US.
Gun grabbing isnt going to actually happen (i know about virginia)
isis and muslims arent going to walk the streets and infiltrate congress.
Obama isnt going to set up death camps
etc etc

>>17207196
*Trades the five monopolies that the US has now for a single state monopoly*

Look Reddit! We did it! We saved America!

>>17207178
>Muh NWO
You sound like a massive pussy who doesn't have what it takes to succeed in a free market economy so you need an ethnostate to handhold you and protect your fee-fees.

>>17207120
If he wanted to go after guys like Bezos he would institute a wealth tax for billionaires not an increase in income taxes

>>17207120
Left gets their way
>healthcare expenses skyrocket for everyone who works for a living, just like the last time the left "fixed" healthcare (Obamacare)
>"""free""" college, which is a huge fuck you to everyone who was responsible while bailing out the dumb and irresponsible
>open borders, which crashes the value of labor while driving up the price of housing, to say nothing of all the other problems it causes: more traffic, more pollution, more crime, more people on the dole that must be supported by the working class, more (((diversity)))
>degeneracy increases at an even faster rate than before because only Nazi bigot _____-phobes disagree with allowing transgender children to strip at gay clubs
>if you have a problem with any of this you must be a shill standing up for billionaires

>>17207167
AoC and Bernie and their retarded supporters are the ones ignoring tax loopholes when they harp on about muh 90% tax rate in the 50s to justify the fact that every idea they support will require a massive tax hike, despite the fact that the effective tax rate was less than half of that.

>>17207251
>open boarders
>Immigration isn't actually a real issue in the US

Really strange when someone who is clearly ESL tells me. You're right, though. These aren't problems. Things are all fine, we just need more government spending and all will be well. Thanks, I will sleep well tonight. I will vote for Bernie now.

>>17206456
>>17206397
The american "middle class" was created out of an alliance with communists in their destruction of europe and asia in WWII
>B-but muh cold war!
The US was run by trotskites that supported communists in africa and the middle east. (And still does today, look at the YPG in iraq/syria or MEK in iran).

>>17207261
>Actually thinking voting for Bernie means full tilt Soviet era communism.
>ISHYGDDT
you're a useful idiot who's really out here defending corporate monopolies. Look at yourself

>>17207307
I don't get why they want free college. Most of the college debt is held by women and all they have to do is marry some STEMcel Timothy after she dates him in his last semester of college and he'll pay all her loans

>>17207307
Im not a bernie nor AOC supporter.

but you conservatives have lost the ability to EVER call anyone's supporters retarded, after Trump won the white house.
You threw that ability out the fucking window.

>>17207262
>You sound like a massive pussy who doesn't have what it takes to succeed in a free market economy

It's always funny when you bootlicking leftists become libertarians when it's convenient.

>>17207317
whatever pussy, keep having nightmares about consuela the honduran cleaning lady coming to hurt you, all because Ted Cruz tricked you into being scared so you can sacrifice your childrens future to give rich people a better tax cut.

>>17207120
/biz/ is full of dipshit lolbergs and ancraps that scream "commie" at all opposition despite allying with antifa and lionizing goons like soros and buffet.

>>17207320
Almost as retarded as believing nationalized healthcare is mutually inclusive with good healthcare.

>>17207307
No you're just a pussy shouting MUH SLIPPERY SLOPE!
Also I graduated college and have no student loan debt, but guess what I want free college because it's better for everyone. This whole "it's not fair" mindset is childish.

>>17207382
Please explain to me how it's not since nationalized healthcare is the world standard and seems to work pretty damn well

>>17207382
I wouldn't mind nationalized healthcare desu. I just know that the money will never be paid by guys like Bezos because crazy Bernie won't go after the owner of media companies that will make him eat his own shit so it will be everyone else paying it

>>17207377
Consuela can't hurt me individually but 100 million Consuelas can when they vote in Hugo Chavez Del Norte. Mestizos are natural socialists.

>>17207377
Not really afraid of you. I am afraid of living in a perpetually dysfunctional shithole where the streets don't get paved, where you can't get anything done without a bribe, where you you can't walk out of your house after 8 PM.

>>17206621
>let me take all of your guns
>now bring in infinite cheap labor from high crime areas who want to do your job
>this will make you all safer and richer

>>17206621

You cannot up the rate of the extremely wealth without raising the rates for everyone else.

>>17207421
Where does it work? Plenty of shithole countries have public healthcare. Somalia supposedly has free healthcare. So does Brazil. Dominican Republic offers free healthcare. What are the demographics of the United States going to be in 2040? Public services are only as good as the people administrating it. You don't live in Scandinavia. You live in the United States, a nation that has become the dumping ground for the world's migrating retards.

>>17207120
This post is exactly why. OP's picture is about referring to households making 35k and 40k as the "rich" neighborhoods. You see this and refer to that as "Bezos-rich".

>>17207445
That shit has been happening since Reagan. What are you going to do about it?

>>17207356
So you're not denying my claim? I'm glad we can agree you're a punk bitch with nothing to contribute to society.

>>17207483
impregnate illegal daughters then call ICE

>>17207251
Did you forget when every single Democrat candidate raised their hand to support free healthcare for illegals at a debate? No Democrat will outright say they are for open borders but every single policy they have will result in importing tons of third worlders because that's a reliable Democrat voting block.

>>17207346
That's another good reason to be against free college, it's basically a bailout for roasties who got meme degrees. I'm not paying more taxes to bail out women who wanted to whore around for a few more years while they earned some useless degree in theater arts or women's studies at an institution that brainwashed them to not have children and hate white men.

>>17207395
It's not childish at all. I sacrificed my quality of life to more rapidly pay off my student loans, why should the people who were not willing to do the same be rewarded for it? Why should I be forced to pay for my education AND their education? If you want to pay for other people's college go fund a scholarship instead of using the force of the government to make us all do it. Furthermore, """free""" college also fucks everyone who didn't go to college precisely because it was too expensive, or those who attended a less prestigious college because it was more affordable than the better school that accepted them.

>>17207356
kill yourself commie you degenerate being

>>17206685
You need a better argument than "the word socialist results in death camps, always"

>>17207474
So you have no proof and are just scared about something that "could" happen in the future? The USA has some of the best doctors and medical equipment in the world. You're saying that's just gonna disappear?

>>17207427
Dude, im what you would call a "centerist"
i yell at progressives all day.
I tell them im not concerned with white supremacists, because the number simply arent there.
Once you break through a certain mathmatical threshold, ill let it rise on my "shit that matters" list.

Im telling you, immigration isnt a real problem. It can be in the future. But our net immigration is pretty small, and path to citizenship takes Forever, and we have labor shortages.

>>17207431
i understand the Gov has inefficiencies and waste, but just like above this shit is all about BALANCE.
Politics isnt "conservatives are right" or "liberals are right" its about balance.
Capitalism has gotten out of hand, and the rich are taking in alllll the new income, and more than half the country is living week to week.
some forms of socialism MUST be increased (they already existed for generations) now, and Especially in the future with automation.

At the moment, Bernie is the logical pendulum swing.

>>17207377
stupid fucking shit skin. You faggots are demons on this Earth and will soon pay for your crimes against white humanity

>>17206621
Nobody used to pay taxes tard

Regan closed all loopholes and now we're full-scale globohomo KYC , banks work for gov, no way to escape. Except to stop trying which is exactly what the rich will do. They're already doing it. That's why there's homeless people everywhere

>>17206961
There is no argument other than boomer-tier snark. This is why bernie is winning the primary, the other democrats have NO argument against him, other than smears like "he's too old" and "he said something about women 50 years ago".

>>17207536
If you need a clearer description how about "the promise of power-to-the-people while actually pushing for total government control results in death camps, always"

>>17207229
>middle class gets slight tax increase
>but also gets their medical costs reduced by 99%
>the result is they have more money
>the middle class is not gutted

>>17207547
yup you are completely correct. Give anyone who took out a loan for school a free pass. Their irersponsible decisions and attitudes will go away just like that! They will become productive members of society definitely. Oh also gives those niggers some free money because the jews enslaved them and got the entire world to believe whites did it (even though whites were only hired as the employees of the jewish slave owners). We are going to gas the kikes eventually. You leave us no fucking choice. They advocate for MORE IMMIGRATION, MORE UNFAIR ADVANTAGES FOR BROWNS, MORE GIBS, MORE VIOLENCE THAT COPS HAVE TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY OR ELSE BE CONSIDERED RACIST WHITE SUPREMACISTS. Listen here commie, i hope you know your history. Do you know what the Red scare was? We will have another one soon. All of the commies in the USA will be executed. You do not deserve the american oxygen in your lungs, you traitors to the Republic.

>>17207550
Im white, and a businessman, and rich.
But im not a pussy, and i actually read.

>>17207613
Surely keeping people buried under debt they can't pay off is good for the economy. It's not like that crashed the economy before or anything.

Student loans need to be tackled at some point or we are in for 2008 2.

>>17206238
THERES A BOARD TO POST POLITICAL BULLSHIT ON

>>17207613
Jesus these fear tactics really worked on you guys. So much panic. No wonder trump won.

>>17207356
>2020
>Still labeling people
>Not realizing people just want what they want, and we don't fit into neat little compartments
I never think about party politics when making up my mind about what I think is right or wrong. It's not ever close to a thought I have. If you're so fucking worried about being a particular kind of person, I have news for you: You are a sheep. Try to think for yourself.

>>17206238
Because there’s a correlation between being poor and being a retarded, uneducated fuck. That’s why poor people like Bernie

>>17207680
Wow, nice post, boomer

>>17207655
>fear
why do faggots misuse this word?

>>17207658
>you guys are just evil white supremacists, my worst kind of political group!
>"you sound like a [political group]"
>WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU THINK ABOUT POLITICAL GROUPS
You're such a faggot, go back to /pol/

>>17207547
>iMmIgRaTiOn IsNt a ReAl PrObLeM
When does it become a problem? After there are enough imported brown voters to turn America into a one party state? White people are the only ones who mostly support and believe in the ideals this country was founded upon.

>>17207609
>but also gets their medical costs reduced by 99%
This part never happened. Health insurance premiums have consistently risen since Obamacare. Deductibles too, which is a double whammy.

>>17207536
No he doesn’t. Not when it does in fact always lead to death camps.

Inb4 you pull some “not all socialists” or this time it’s different shit.

>>17207540
No, it's going to degrade slowly when the corrupt, low IQ population fails to maintain the infrastructure. And it's not a matter of "could". South American mestizos and Africans have already set the precedent. You'll soon be bringing your "free state subsidized" Indian doctors for a check up, just like it happens in India or Mexico or any dysfunctional country full of shithead dysfunctional "people"

>>17207697
>Projecting this hard
Actually sad.

>>17207694
FUCK YOU SHAREBLUE SHILL> WANNA START THE NEXT CIVIL WAR? ELECT BERNIE AND WE WILL KILL YOUR FAMILIES

>>17207641
Uh, hi, welcome to biz, where we all fucking know that this is inevitable which is why we’re buying internet fun money.

>>17207724
i cant even tell if this is a troll, or if conservatives really have become such insecure emasculated pussies that they actually live their lives feeling this level of fear on a daily basis.

Holy shit, Fox news has had a powerful effect.
Its literally made 40% of the county sincerely believing that the shit that comes out of trumps mouth is actually real.

>>17207641
It needs to be tackled by the people that took the loans

the solution to all of our problems as reducing government into its constitutional footprint. We simply cannot afford the government that's been created since the late 60s until now. If you see that wage growth chart somebody needs to plot in all the government institutions that were created right there when it started flatlining. You're going to have department of energy, department of education, EPA, all of the labor laws that were created in the 70s.

If we simply start taking care of ourselves and not rely on government for everything we would all get rich. Entrepreneurs would create the 3-day work week. Simple as

>>17207715
Bribing* not bringing

>>17206457
poor people don't vote

>>17207716
>project what you did onto your replyer
>a different person calls you out on it
>project projecting onto them
Jesus Christ dude I'm jewish too but you honestly must have been double circumcised to be like this. I'd demand a refund if I were you, I know your dad kept the receipt.

>>17207120
Taking Bezos money won't benefit us whatsoever though.

>>17207774
>pussy pussy pussy pussy pussy pussy pussy pussy
There is nothing wrong with recognizing patterns and reacting accordingly. For example, one pattern is that certain races are more prone to violence and you should exercise caution around them. Understanding this can save your life while believing we are all exactly equal and the same can get you killed.

>>17207797
Im not sure what you're not accepting about the fact that businesses cant be trusted to do shit except destroy everything in order to feed their greed.

Do you not understand that their greed Forces us to make new laws about throwing shit in the water supply? Forces us to think about laws that say "Hey don't pay yourself 300x the mean of your employees"?

>>17207195
we just need a free market and to abolish central banking

>>17207874
I'm pretty sure we could stop businesses from "poisening" us with some simple regulations I don't think we need a giant cradle-to-grave government that wants to to take over after you orgasm.

have a sperm in your nut sack? Will that sperm has a right to health Care, education, let's give it a basic income. Are you a bigot? Your responsibility should end at orgasm right?

>>17207863
You do realize you replied to someone who you had no communications with previously, and mentioned nothing about associating with a political party, and your reply was basically "You identified as this political party and called me a white supremacist and then said you don't think about political groups"? Your entire fucking argument was based off of things that never happened except your last point.

No, you don't. Because you're a low IQ sheep, just like I assumed.

>>17206344
the middle class are the rich assholes who live way beyond what they should be able to afford, retard

>>17207195
The current system has too much socialism and that's why our way of life is being destroyed. if you really think that more government and more corruption is the solution then I'll see you on the other side my friend. I hope you can at least hedge your crazy ideas with some gold and Bitcoin in case you're wrong and we get a currency crisis and we officially turn into a banana republic

>>17207937
>called ME a white supremacist
Bro I joined that chain of events after you did, I was mocking you for mocking someone else. You just accused someone of not reading tags and replying to someone about something they didn't said....and in doing so you failed to read tags and replied to someone about something they didn't say.