/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17087290
boeing shit the bed with the rocket launch. now its up to tesla to justify white peoples existence. also spaceX by extension obviously but if tesla is doing well then maybe elon wont smoke himself retarded and shit the bed

>>17087304
oh

>>17087290
Has Cybertruck orders to last 4 years.
Model Y in production
China factory online.
Germany factory in construction.
New announcements regarding battery tech.
Dominating EV sales.
First time 2 consecutive profit quarters.
Panasonic EV battery division venture makes profit for the first time
Maker and technology leader in a market with 5000% growth potential.

>>17087290
People are retards and are buying it because analysts said its worth $15,000.

Tesla inconsistently makes profits, sells few overpriced luxury cars for rich people, and is run by a fucking lunatic who constantly makes irrational decisions

>>17088421
Analyst said 7k

>>17088257
>Has Cybertruck orders to last 4 years.
>$100 deposits
>half the customers will have died from a heroin overdose by the time the car is ever released

>>17088257
>Has Cybertruck orders to last 4 years.
Vaporware
>Model Y in production
Tesla has promoted its reservation numbers for the Model 3 and Cybertruck but declined to do so for the Model Y - almost noone buy the lifted shitbox
>China factory online.
Canceled due to coronavirus outbreak
>Germany factory in construction.
Delayed a lot due to green protest
>New announcements regarding battery tech.
We have heard it many times, and nothing happens. Their battery tech is not impressive. - more fire/explosion-prone than others.
>Dominating EV sales.
US for now. World, not so much
>First time 2 consecutive profit quarters.
Nice ZEV credits you got here. It would be a pity if anything happened to it.
>Panasonic EV battery division venture makes profit for the first time
Nope, Pana's quarterly results are out. Looking at that results, I don't think $/kWh went down for Tesla from Q3 to Q4. Pana recently said it's keeping cost-savings to itself & they seem to have actually done that. After Q1, most of non-Tesla auto battery biz will go to Toyota/Pana JV. That means we'll have an even better idea of what's going on.
>Maker and technology leader in a market with 5000% growth potential.
Nice meme

>>17087290
reddit are the superior investors. pack it up, /biz/ lost.

>>17087290
just normies fomoing in like crypto in 2017

literally exactly the same, stocks been slowly climbing for past year and normies think they cant lose so put more in, tsla bubbling exponentially, just like dec 2017 crypto.

>>17087290

UK Just proposed fossil fuel vehicle ban within 15 yr timeline. Tesla dominates this market. Other countries to follow.

>>17087290
It's a bubble fueled by cheap fed money being handed to banks and hedge funds.

>>17087290
The same people that were buying bitcoin when it was $18k are the same ones buying Tesla at $700. Robinhood data showed 4,000 new traders buying Tesla above 700 for the first time.

>>17088488
this

if you werent around in crypto 2017 and still have TSLA... get the fuck out, take your profit.

>>17088421
>and is run by a fucking lunatic who constantly makes irrational decisions

He needs to write a book because it clearly works.

>>17088488
Kekkd and chekkd

someone, back in 2016 would post an image of the musk every day and say "explain to me in 10 seconds why you arent investing in this man?" i never heeded his advice

High-End BEV's in Norway: Within a bit more than 1 month, E-Tron has registered about 30% of Tesla's full-year S/X sales in 2019. Can this continue?

>>17088488
That means there's still a good 15-20% left to squeeze out of it before it starts crashing down to 400.

>>17088524
>he doesn't know about the $120 gap up
lmao this is insanity.

Taking bets for how long until the SEC halts trading.

>>17088488
Its at 900 now in premarket. So buying 700 wasn't so bad

>>17088524
If I were you, I would sold at 1000 today. Take my profit and and watch and laugh at those pink wojaks.

>>17088257
Dont bother. People are idiots and wouldnt know if they tripped over a bag of gold.

The way this is gapping you don't want to be getting in the way just yet. This is going to wipe out a lot of retarded 'this has to happen' shorts.
There's still an unclosed gap at around 255-300 from November. No doubt there were people claiming that gap 'had to' get closed.

>>17088458
is that a Tesla?

>>17088760
see >>17088488
retard

>>17088779
yes

>>17088781
t. short
>you don't want to be getting in the way just yet. This is going to wipe out a lot of retarded 'this has to happen' shorts.
>just yet

>>17088779
>>17088790
Fun fact: Teslas cars burn less often than standard combustion engines cars, but of course this is way more news worthy.

>>17088831
>Teslas cars burn less often than standard combustion engines cars, but of course this is way more news worthy.
There are over 500K nissan leafs. They don't burn like Tesla cars.

READ HERE
--------------------------------------------

I was comparing ChainLink market cap (1 billion) to Tesla market cap

Immagine you are in 2012 and you bought Tesla at 26$... immagine if ya had hold 't fur 8 years
you would have donea x30

Now TSLA market cap ist 140 Milliards

TSL produces autonomous veichles (which are not even out yet)

ChainLink produces services (trust) for datasource

Immagine ChainLink in 8 years at 740$ ... basically at these price levels and witha a similar market cap

I didn't done the math but what woulda be da price of ChainLink witha a market cap of 140 billions?

260$

If investors are so dumb TO TROWN MONEY IN A BUZZWORD (AUTONOMOUS VEICHLE).. IMMAGINE HOW MUCH WILL DEY PUT INTO CHAINLINk OUR ORACLE SOLUTION

>>17088831
I'm sold on Teslas, no doubt concerning though having my car fucking explode and taking my whole house with it... would insurance cover this shit?

>>17088421
>sells few overpriced luxury cars for rich people
The model 3 is as luxurious as a Russian Lada.

>>17088857
and you know whats the best part?
Link provides a dividend upon staking. Tesla does not.

>>17087290
>mooning like a shitcoin
kek

>>17087290
You missed how fiat works.

>>17088831
I would rather take a burning ICE car over a burning EV any day.

>>17088857
Yes yes compare some Russians startup with electronic cars and space industry.
Same value right?
Fucking deluded linkies

>>17088889
>Link provides a dividend upon staking. Tesla does not
will you hold for at least 5 years?
I am sure you will.
You have the base-line
you are base I sense it

>>17088933
based*
sorry typo

>>17088779
Not anymore

>>17088472
>literally exactly the same, stocks been slowly climbing for past year and normies think they cant lose so put more in, tsla bubbling exponentially, just like dec 2017 crypto.
when stoc crash?

>>17088257
>China factory online.
what'sa factory on line?

>>17088534
silly goy, SEC only stops the markets when things try to crash. Hence the mania, everyone knows this system is rigged to never go down again because daddy FED won't allow it. Imagine if trading on bitcoin halted for 24 hours everytime it dipped -5%.

>>17088504
he still posts to this day. my god the fucking belief and confidence of that anon, and now he fucking made it.

>>17088458
You should short it then

>>17087304
>justify white peoples existence
If Elon fails the European Y chromosome will be purged from the earth

>>17088790
>Filmed in China

Nothing suspicious there boys.

>>17088928
Tesla is worthless compared to chainlink

>>17088488
Lol, so cringe. Anyone buying now deserves all the pain they're gonna get

Selling at 1k bros. Wish me luck

>>17089771
Take my dubs anon

>>17088449
/thread

>>17088857
>>17088889
>and you know whats the best part?
The best part is barely literate teenagers giving investment advice

>>17088488
> tfw bought at 200
> tfw sold all today
Let the stock market burn, I have a house to buy.

>>17087290
you missed 5 years of range bound accumulation

>>17089854
Congrats fren :^) I'ma stay riding this pony

>>17088928
Actually, if everything plays out the way we’re hoping it does, the value of chainlink’s trustless oracle network would far exceed the value of the electric/self driving vehicle and private spacecraft industry. This is assuming perfect conditions though, which is highly unlikely

Uk banning fuel cars by 2035. Tesla one of the best prepared for electrification

>>17090160
For me. EU and UK banning fuel cars is biggest reason. That means half of European auto makers are fucked.

Irony that Eurofags committed sepuku for Elon San tho.

>>17087290
There is no reason other than mania. It will dump like everything does in such times.
If you think this move has to do with fundamentals you’re deluded.

I call it "the shitcoin-ization of the stock market".

Expect this to just be the beginning.

Hearing word that TSLA will be added to S&P?

>>17089839
Sorry you missed out on the Link train anon.

>>17088449
Yea I think a lot of these are retard millenials with $100 who will NEVER buy the thing. And by a lot I mean the vast majority.

>>17090186
How is that?
Literally every automaker is making EVs.

>>17090315
Yes, after two more quarters of GAAP profitability. It looks likely that will happen.

>>17088257
Literally NONE of this matters. A lot of prominent investors (Soros, Buffett, Dalio, etc) have said in recent years that fundamentals mean less and less in this ever-changing world. It's literally the PERCEPTION of a company that drives his share price.

>>17088472
hmmm I think i'm going to buy when the bubble bursts

>>17087290

>>17087290
lol the TSLA chart looks like some shitcoin pump and dump.

>>17088831
Fun fact you are a faggot

>>17090330
Shut up jidf

>>17088257

>lost $775 million in 2019
>$13 billion in long term debt still
>bigger market cap than mcdonalds now
>loved by redditors and california vegan faggots

>>17088458
I feel bad that you feel the need to rationalize how the world is so negative and pessimistic, and your need to peg down successful people

>>17088478
The only correct answer in the whole thread.

>>17090160
That's fucking 15 years from now. You are telling me all the other automakers will just sit around with their dicks in the hands doing nothing for 15 years?

>Elon musk the new Steve Jobs
>tesla the new Apple

The new calculus is that tesla is going into mobility as a service. The new smart car will have ai/5g/self automation/self driving, called maas which is a 7 trillion usd market. Basically the car is the new iPhone/ai interface/smart car/internet. Everyone was wondering if Apple would create a car. Forget it, tesla is doing it, and Catherine wood is sucking Elon’s dick all the way to the bank.

>head explode.jpg

>>17088458
this guy gets it, elon is running a ponzi scheme

he charges the repairs and parts as good will service = ponzi scheme
$100 refundable deposit = goes to VC.s "look at all these orders", ponzi scheme

factory on mars tsla 7k by june

article from a week ago

market cap now 160B

>>17087304
you know elons african right?

>>17090720
that's like buying mcdonald's based on burger sales

>>17090738

... where do you think mcdonalds revenue comes from son

>>17090738
>that's like buying mcdonald's based on burger sales
You're supposed to.

>>17090750
by tricking boomers into paying huge franchising fees and real estate

>>17090738
a better example would be...

its like if BYND announced they are opening a burger chain to compete with mcdonalds, and then the market priced the company at 3x mcdonalds value even though they sold only 10% the number of burgers of MCD

Why do cryptofags believe that something without revenue/sales is entitled to go 100x/1000x while a legit company like Tesla can't go 5x?

>>17090698
I like how it is either a ponzi or a genius breakthrough new paradigm.

What if EV is just an emerging market and Tesla is getting a temporary pump due to first mover fame, which will correct soon?
You retards ever considered a moderate opinion?

>people unironically suggesting this company is currently worth half as much as motherfucking walmart

enjoy your bag holding

>>17090721
That's an odd way to spell jewish.

>>17091027
thanks for using a trip

>>17090738
honestly a great analogy.

where can i short tesla with bitcoin?

>>17090738
Wtf else does McDonald’s do besides sell burgers. Jfc we are truly in the end times. There are absolutely no fundamentals anymore. People buy stocks based on fairytales and pretend scenarios that never come to fruition. Remember this bubble lads. When this twilight zone crashes shit is gonna hit the fan

>>17088760
there is still a gap at 57 that hasn't been filled. i'm short until it closes

Tesla is literally Theranos 2.0

He claims to have this novel AI that will power all cars in the future. Although he cannot prove it to you or show you it. But if you give him money one day it will work

>>17091098
this
the next recession is going to crash the markets -90%

>>17091123
STIFF!

>>17090923
walmart is boring, tesla is backed by meme magic

>>17087290
I literally need a dumb-shit-tier step by step guide to short this stock, I've never participated in stock trading.

But being in crypto, I know delusion when I see it

>>17091098
yeah, it's basically because intrest rates are fucking shit everywhere;

>>17091158
open an account with a stock broker
I use Interactive Brokers
sell the shares without owning them

now you are short

>>17091101
>rekt

>>17088928
you know spacex and tesla are different companies right

>>17088421
>lunatic who constantly makes irrational decisions
name 1

>>17091253
tweet about price fixing

/o/ ON SUICIDE WATCH

new buyers are gonna get burned so hard, its really sad to see

>>17091287
KEEPS PUMPING. YOU'LL FOMO AT 2K FAGGOT.

>>17091287

cope

>>17090849
>What if smartphones are just an emerging market and apple is getting a temporary pump due to first mover fame, which will correct soon?

>>17087290

Buying Tesla now is like buying Apple before the iPhone became a hit at the price that Apple is today.

>>17088421
Who do you think you are convincing by calling one of the most successful men of our time a lunatic?

>>17091158
>But being in crypto I think I know when a parabolic pump has topped out
fucking retard tbqh even if TSLA is massively overbought

>>17087304
Tesla is only the car company. SpaceX doesnt count as part of Tesla, otherwise I would've bought hard. Get the vibe normies think Tesla stock also contains all of Elon's other businesses and probably why it's mooning.

>>17089213
>SEC only stops the markets when things try to crash
This part right here. Notice how the SEC only tries to stop crashes even if it's deserved.

>Down $500 in less than a day
>Better halt trading so people can cool off and think carefully

>Up $500 in less than a day
>DO NOT halt trading even though buyers might be irrationally buying and should think carefully

>>17087290

>>17091158
>literally need a dumb-shit-tier step by step guide to short this stock
I have to short because it went up
Liteally retard

>>17091981
>Get the vibe normies think Tesla stock also contains all of Elon's other businesses and probably why it's mooning
200 IQ take

>>17088857
You're comparing real assets to vaporware. LINK is straight up vaporware. Crypto is unregulated and very easy to put money into. The volatility and risk is higher, but with that comes bigger rewards. That's why crypto is invested in because you can get rich now and not have to wait 20-30 years.

Btw, Chainlink's product services don't exist. Where's the god protocol and oracles? Nowhere to be seen. Just partnerships and meetups and conferences and Sergey eating more cheeseburgers while he plays a video game of himself.

>>17091158
Bad idea. Delusionally bought companies like this will screw you over when they go up for no reason. Eg Apple massively loved by normies. Goes up almost 1/4 its value in 3 months just cause. You'd think it have been priced already when there wasnt news of anything that would cause its phones to take more market share. Oh a new phone that normies will buy...just like every other time...time for a 125% increase. It's like what that one anon said. The fundamentals of the company are less important than it's perception. All you need is a mass of normies believing it's stock should be worth a certain value and than the big firms just pump the price to make an easy profit.

>>17091098
>Wtf else does McDonald’s do besides sell burgers.

You delcare it a tech company. Issue ambitious plans about Burger stores in orbit, the moon and even mars. Then you take on huge loads of debt and build up a titanic sized RnD division, let them come up with crazy ideas and publish them every now and then to help keep interest in the new tech stock.

This plan can not fail, there's so much hot money out there searching for any kind of return that they will flow in without a second thought.

>>17090720
>The virgin ford
>THE CHAD TESLA

>>17088257
A 100 dollar refundable preorder isnt a sale you fucking dumbass.

The model 3 is good and makes sense, the Cybertruck is a total fuckup.

>>17090738

Are you retarded?

Do you know how stock analysis works?

>>17091265
Lel thanks for reminding me this board existed

UNSTOPPABLE!!!!

>>17088478
This is it right here.

Rage against the dying light, TSLA, and hit my sell limit.

Buy NIO now at 4 so in a few years you can have 20 times more money.

>>17087290
Will go up to 1500 by feb 7th then violent crash to 900 by feb 11 then find support at 700 feb 14. Screenshot this

>>17089788
Checked, blessed, and heil hitler.

>>17092961
tell me more about NIO

>>17087290
>$1000 calls with a 3/06 expiry were going for like .03 a month ago
>They're at 17.something today
fml I could've been a millionaire by now.

>>17092950
It worked. I sold three minutes before it dipped. Blessed TSLA, our lord and savor.

>>17091098
mcdonalds doesn't make money with burgers. They are basically a real estate company. They own the property of the franchise guys.

>>17092653
they are basically a franchise now that rents out properties and sells McLicences

>>17091300
Nah I sold all my shares and bought one call just in case I’m wrong. I literally win either way. You’re the retard.

>>17088458
based

Now's a good time to buy. It dumped and it's back down around 9.

>>17094467
>Now's a good time to buy.
No, it's not.

>>17094573
Okay so I'm holding right now. Should I move to sell before opening tomorrow or do we think itll jump again?

>>17090738
I fucking lold

>>17093612
Wow, this is the most based reply I’ve seen on /biz/ in a while. Of course no one cares

I think I sorta understand why only “accredited investors” can buy certain offerings. After enough pants-on-head retarded TSLA pumps and oceans of brainlets’ ink spilled on Taiwanese child slave-labor funded basket weaving business discussion boards, you kind of just want a market for the big boys only. Pool’s closed, adult swim faggots

>>17094668
should open up pre-market which would be a good time to sell if you have weak hands. if you have a big dick youll hold till 1000

>>17095052
Yeah but whats the likelyhood that actually happens?

>>17094573
I bet you said this the last 5 times it jumped 10%

>>17088577
Checked, but big oil shills aren't people. They're fucking cockroaches

>>17090186

The sepuku was when they kept burning dinosaurs and now have to be spraying aerosols in the stratosphere to keep the planet cool. Electromobility makes sense if you think about it

15 years is actually too little too late, I expect diesel cars to be banned everywhere in the EU in the next 5 years

Check em and screencap

>>17089854
You made mad profit. Gratz!

Sell right now. Look at this >>17094815

Someone must be retarded to buy high.

>>17092826

kek

>>17088257
lol
ok
corona in 3, 2..
ok
what were they?
not hard with first mover advantage + the offerings at hand
lol, but ok
corona in 3, 2...
tesla cars are the last thing that should be pumping this

>>17090543
tesla $20k eoy

>>17095079
950 early and then drops from there
closes bt 850-900

>>17090738
Unironically the dumbest fucking post I’ve ever seen. What is their source of revenue, you fucking braindead faggot? How can you be so fucking stupid?

>>17095115
Oil is produced abiogenically under the Earth's crust, similarly to natural gas. There are vast underground seas of it.

>>17090186
That's assuming EU exists in 15 years and carries the same political weight.

>>17095313
Thats what I figure. Let them buy on dip guys hop in then sell, yea?