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Silver is going to explode within a few years or sooner

Silver/Dollar ratio is currently $1,096 per oz

The current price for silver is 18.11$ per oz

the current spot price for silver 18.01$ per oz

Join ther /sg/ Silver General Riot Server here
No email no phone number just good old fashion username and password:
https://riot.im/app/#/room/#SilverGeneral:matrix.org

Articles and videos to get informed on why to buy into silver
https://dailyreckoning.com/value-of-silver-vs-value-of-the-dollar/

http://silverseek.com/article/why-silver-could-replace-dollar-17373

https://www.globalresearch.ca/gold-silver-and-the-monetary-base-could-silver-replace-the-dollar/5651200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU&list=PLE88E9ICdiphYjJkeeLL2O09eJoC8r7Dc

https://youtu.be/5JT0Kq01CFg

https://youtu.be/HDvFAXVcl60

https://youtu.be/26AIReJniwc

https://youtu.be/KK2ZSfYLH6Q

https://youtu.be/1vBfv1qQdxY

https://youtu.be/Blx3N2dXXKo

https://youtu.be/wLqH12A9UT0

https://youtu.be/T7BlJmNCT2w

For Beginners https://youtu.be/7hC8LSJMgYc

I recommend getting your hands on these starter kits

The JM Bullion Starter Pack
https://www.jmbullion.com/starter-pack/
Money Metals Exchange Starter Kit
https://www.moneymetals.com/starter-kit/below-cost-silver

BEFORE YOU START BUYING ONLINE CHECK FOR LOCAL PM'S RETAILERS FIRST!!!

>> No.17078962

Best places to Silver at the moment( if you know any other good places to buy silver feel free to post links)

https://www.texmetals.com/

https://thecoinshoppe.ca/

https://www.apmex.com/

https://monumentmetals.com/

https://boldpreciousmetals.com/

https://www.jmbullion.com/

https://www.providentmetals.com/

https://findbullionprices.com/

https://www.txauction.com/auctions/804/1/

https://www.silvergoldbull.ca/ for the fucking leafs

For the Euros
http://goldsilver.be/ (low price, be sure to be home when UPS guy drops off the package)

http://europesegoudstandaard.be/ (low price, low security)

http://goud999.be/ (ok price)

https://www.bullionbypost.eu/silver-bars/5oz-silver-bars/
TAVID (sometimes branded TAVEX) is the most trusted local seller, they operate all over Europe and originate in Estonia

https://www.celticgold.eu/en/buy-silver.html


If you also into crypto but want a price of silver check this out:

https://www.agxsilver.io/ One AGX coin = 0,54$ physical silver

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>> No.17079074

>>17078957
Niggers stink!!

>> No.17079185
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>> No.17079237
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17079237

>metal
>rocks
>literal dirt

>> No.17079353

pathetic shiny rocks are dumping again while stocks are up can believe you guys are so dumb

>> No.17079455

>>17078957
Why dumping so hard?

>> No.17079726

>>17079074
>>17079185
>>17079353
>>17079455
good more shiny rocks for me, literally us silver bugs don't give a shit about fiat price

>> No.17079766

I have crypto, stocks, and silver. Silver is a perfect hedge and medium-term investment.

>> No.17079782

>>17079726
This, I have zero faith in Stocks, The government(legal mafia) or the damn dollar.

>> No.17080011

I have 100oz and 1oz of gold am I gonna make it?

>> No.17080042

>>17080011
You already did anon. You’re just waiting for the collapse

>> No.17080144

FED pumping their dicks raw like the degenerate coomers they are. Going for broke, three strikes and they’re out. This is their final act, and it’s gonna play out as long as they possibly can push it. Only a few years before everyone blows a gasket.

>> No.17080200

>>17078957

Only a few more months till totally debt free. Then I'll stack 20-30 oz a month to make up

>> No.17080209

>>17080144
Isn't China pumping their banks too?

>> No.17080502

>>17080042
>>17080144
I hope I can make it to 1000oz before the collapse

>> No.17080527

>>17080011
did you buy them online?

>> No.17080543

>>17079766
through what broker do you have crypto?

>> No.17080631

>>17080209
Fuck yeah they are, everyone is, but China is in worse shape than we are.
>>17080502
You have plenty of time. They will probably keep this shit up for years. Just keep an eye on Gold and once it’s all bought up by big money to hedge against the fall, silver will very shortly follow out of necessity.

>> No.17080694

Redpill me on bullion coins. Why should I buy these expensive (((bullion))) coins when I can find silver coins around at spot price or even BELOW? I understand gold bullion coins but silver... What am I missing?

>> No.17080869

>>17080694
silver coins below spot price?
are you sure that's silver?

>> No.17080900

>>17079726
What do stinky niggers have to do with that?

>> No.17080940

>>17080900
wat

>> No.17080962

>>17080869
0.9 junk silver. Most numismatics I've done business with will do discounts if you buy in bulk as they don't really care about the coins that aren't that well preserved and they want the money to buy more numismatic shit, but you still get the silver. I'm starting to think y'all fell for the muh bullion +60% premium coins meme honestly.

>> No.17080973

>>17080694
Check the price on some Perth Mint silver coins that are like 8 years old, some coins appreciate in value over the years. Not saying you shouldn't buy the cheapest silver you can find, but there is a reason to buy nicer coins

>> No.17081041

>>17080973
>Perth Mint
You mean regular australian bullion (with the bitch's face on) or the occasional special edition coins with animals and shit?

>> No.17081078

>>17078957
Well see goldsilver going to 100.
Literal Pajeets are what keeping the silver price afloat and they wont keep it afloat over 20.
Prepare to see a dip back to 15 while gold only dips 50 bucks.

>> No.17081109

>>17080527
Some of it

>> No.17081166

>>17080962
>y'all
Talk like a normal person.
> fell for the muh bullion +60% premium coins meme honestly
I don't buy coins, I only buy bars.

>> No.17081180

>>17081109
you're fucked

>> No.17081217

>>17081166
>Talk like a normal person.
STFU. First of all I'm not talking, I'm writing, you fucking mongol. Second, check the site we are on, I'll write whatever I want, however I want, fucking boomer.
>I only buy bars
based

>> No.17081349

>>17081217

based and barpilled fren

>> No.17081397

>>17081217
nigger

>> No.17081473

>>17081180
Why is that? Gubmint man gonna take muh metal?
They can have the lead first.

>> No.17081525

>>17081397
I'm not so you just insulted a fellow white man. You fucked up and became the nigger yourself. SAD!

>> No.17081561

got me a oz of platinum coming

>> No.17081613

just bought the 2 10 oz bars at spot and a 10 oz bag of rounds at spot
I figure worst case scenario trump and (((them))) can keep this charade up for another 4 years but after seeing tesla up 20% today it is not looking like they are playing it low and slow anymore.
(((they))) are milking it for all theyve got because implosion is imminent

>> No.17081638

>>17081180

Do most online silver retailers keep logs of customer data?

>> No.17081644

1. bars are for morons, if you buy a 100oz bar, it has the same fees as 100 1oz coins. and its harder to sell to local shops when the price jumps
2. silver will hit $40 an oz by 2025, but is it worth holding on to until then? i think you'd make more money in traditional stocks.
3. why has no one posted SD bullion, they have great prices IMO https://sdbullion.com/1-oz-silver-rounds-new i bought a 100 of these when they went on sale and i got 100 of these https://sdbullion.com/1-oz-silver-towne-buffalo-round nothing fancy but its an mint in the US, so i trust it more then anything china touches

>> No.17081653

>>17081473
if you ordered it online, they know the serial numbers of the real bars.

also, where did you buy the lead?

>> No.17081664

>>17081638
of course they do, but they don't report it to the government, so you don't have to report it on your taxes when you go to sell it in small batches

>> No.17081670

>>17081525
sorry, bro.
then don't speak niggerish, please.
not on this thread.

>> No.17081683

>>17081664
>but they don't report it to the government
how do you know?
not even in the fucking uk?
>>17081644
I buy small bars.
Not 100oz bars. That's retarded.

>> No.17081697

>>17081683
oh the UK? sorry i don't know i'm in the US...

>> No.17081737

>>17081683
also an after thought, even when i bought US mint buffalo 1 oz rounds, they don't have a serial number on them. so if you're worried about that buy 1oz coins i don't think most have serial numbers.
also years ago when silver jumped, i noticed people buying 1 and 10 oz bars for less then the 1 oz coins as well. if i had to guess the 1 oz coins are more normie friendly

>> No.17081770

>>17081653
It’s a good thing I don’t buy anything but gov minted coins and cull

>> No.17081882

>>17081644
There sure will be at least recession before 2025 so price will surely jump more than twice till then

>> No.17081931

>>17081882
i think it'll hit $25 a couple time before 2025, but honestly, with trump cutting regulations and reducing taxes for corporations, i just can't see the stock market crashing enough for silver/gold to hit $40
now when a democrat wins the presidency in 2024, i fully expect a 1930's style recession...

>> No.17081950

>>17079185
>Why are you guys exchanging worthless fiat for an intrinsically useful metal that has been trusted to store the wealth of kings for thousands of years before us, and has never had as many industrial uses as it does today, while it's on sale for $18 a toz, when you can instead gamble thousands of dollars on the stock market a year or two before the next recession hits, while the market is at an all time high?

The 'price' of silver in terms of Fiat is irrelevant, the same way the price of silver in terms of grains of sand is irrelevant. The only difference is no one puts a gun to your head and makes you pay your taxes with grains of sand.

>> No.17081953

>>17081737
>>17081770
I buy small bars only.
But now I'm thinking of buying some brittannia coins. Don't care about the premiums. If it's pure silver then I don't care about much fiat numbers it costs.

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Did I do good for a first purchase?

>> No.17082011

>>17081931
>trump keeps everything pumped 4 more years
>markets crashes when dem candidate wins
this is the most logical outcome... But remember to make money on this market someone must lose money.
Thus there is the most money to be made by blindsiding the market early... I don't think anyone is going to want to have much skin in the game near the end of trumps second presidency. I'd imagine those with enough money to move the markets have already started to consolidate positions

>> No.17082037

What % of your stack should be ASE? got 60oz now with 20 eagles.

>> No.17082056

>>17082037
Damn near 100%

>> No.17082062

>>17081953
i agree in the UK those are a safe bet because they'll be in demand by the locals.
but its a good idea to see how much above spot you have to buy them for and how much above/below spot you can sell them for. when i bought the US mint coins i paid like $3 over spot to get ones still sealed in the mint casing. and i'll never be able to sell them for $3 over spot...

>> No.17082072

>>17082008
ouch, thats a huge amount over spot... i try to only buy in bulk to get better prices. and those aren't even 2020, thats rough anon

>> No.17082104

>>17082008
https://sdbullion.com/2020-us-american-silver-eagle-coin even if you pay with a credit card, you'd get a cheaper price then that. tell me they at least gave you free shipping

>> No.17082154

>>17082011
trump is going for a 3rd term.

>> No.17082158

>>17082008
you probably overspent something like 50 bucks. who fucking cares. just don't do it again

>> No.17082230

>>17081180
You in the uk or something?

>> No.17082259

>>17082104
>tell me they at least gave you free shipping
yes
>>17082158
ah shit rookie mistake. I kind of jumped into it because I'm tired of sitting on money that's losing value cus of the fed.

>> No.17082288

>>17081653
>they know the serial numbers of the real bars.
Why should anybody care. Metal is metal. If I sell the whole bar then someone might be able to find out I used boomermoney.com if they try really hard, big whoop.
>where did you buy the lead?
Gun stores.

>> No.17082301

>>17082259
no need to cry over spilled milk
looking closer you overspent closer to $1 per oz. i'm yuropoor so i had to check ASE's premiums it's literally nothing

>> No.17082486

>>17081644
>2. silver will hit $40 an oz by 2025, but is it worth holding on to until then? i think you'd make more money in traditional stocks.
Silver is tangible. Stocks are not, and they are manipulated by the government and whatever wealthy conglomerate interests are at stake. You also have to have an understanding of the stock market. If you aren't technical, or don't want to risk it, silver is steady and anyone can buy it easily from just about anywhere. With stocks, if something happens to banks or the digital world, you are absolutely fucked. The reason so much money is easy to make on the stock market, is because someone else is losing a great deal of money they also invested to you could win out.

>> No.17082496

>>17082288
I'm buying silver and gold because I believe precious metals are destined to moon because of 1) fiat collapse/losing value, 2) economic crisis, recessions, geopolitical tensions, etc, 3) everything else is in a bubble, 4) industrial use of silver.

>> No.17082638

>>17082496
I don't understand how ANY of that is impacted by some record existing saying you bought the metal.
Tell me again why buying from online sellers is bad.

>> No.17082702

>>17078957
Is there a significant difference in value between a Silver eagle, and the british Silver Crown? Right now the crowns are about 1 dollar cheaper on JMB

>> No.17082886

>>17082301
Well thanks for making me feel better. Is there a decent guide out there I can utilize? Because I'd like to get a little gold as well but I'm going into this blind.

>> No.17082931
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>>17082638
Because homosexual niggers who glow in thr dark are allegedly going to stalk and rape everyone who ever bought precious metals online when the boogaloo comes, even if you only bought 1/10th of a gram of silver they are going to push in your asshole.

>> No.17082936

>>17080011
Checked, but no.

>>17080200
Good attitude. Being cash poor, beyond a small emergency savings fund, is a good thing.

>>17082702
ASE's are usually more expensive than other coins but they are the same.

>> No.17082978

>>17082638
because if that happens the price of PMs (specially silver) will explode.
I don't think governments will just allow a bunch of peasants like me to become rich just like that when they can easily tax precious metals on 95%.

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>>17079237
>>17079353
antishills are getting increasingly nervous and are even more low energy than usual, good sign

>> No.17083016

>>17082988
this post just convinced me to stack another 45 coins
Thanks Anon, and God bless JMB

>> No.17083046

>>17083016
What kind of coins are you going to get?

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>>17083046
bit of an impulse buy, JMB said it only had 33 33 Britannias in stock, and I couldn't pass up the SEs

>> No.17083080

>>17083069
God fucking dammit stop buying things with her face on them!!!!!

>> No.17083088

>>17083080
b-b-b... I wanted to diversify my stack :(

>> No.17083101

>>17083080

new stacker here with a serious question: what's with all of the autistic rage over items with the queen on it?

>> No.17083121

>>17082978
How many people really hold significant portions of physical silver?
My anecdotal experience tells me very few. Often those who are known to stack physical silver and or gold are grouped in with doomsday preppers as "crazies" as in society has deemed it socially unacceptable to be invested in such assets... now compare this to the stock market. even those who have zero clue financially know that they """should""" put all their savings into index funds or blue chips
fiat is worthless in the long run. only hard assets will continue to carry value. Eventually the rug will be pulled out from under and those stuck in the market will be left with a devalued stock or in a worst case scenario a worthless slip of paper.... while (((those in the know))) are long gone with pockets full of PMs, real estate, and business that make real profits

>> No.17083131

>>17083101
Because the uk,canada and australia all does it. Shits getting old.

>> No.17083133

>>17083121
>How many people really hold significant portions of physical silver?
precisely.
normies wouldn't care.

>> No.17083140

>>17083101
Mainly because she is a disgusting pedophile, evil bitch.

>> No.17083183

>>17083133
so if the government wants to tax the sale of silver 95% how is the outcome different if you bought it online vs cash in person?

>> No.17083203

>selling silver

>> No.17083209

>>17083183
then the price for black market silver goes up 75% overnight. People are always more interested in doing something if the government says it's a no-no

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Ah yes another shipment came in today

>> No.17083227

>>17083215
why did you draw a rhombus, sitting frog, and a hashtag on the bottom of that note pad?

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>>17083227

>> No.17083368

>>17083183
because there are records, duhh..

>> No.17083380

>>17083368
>ex-post facto tax
not in your wildest dreams

>> No.17083395

>>17083215
>no dubs in the whole stack
Pathetic

>> No.17083413

>>17083215
d a m n

>> No.17083414

>>17083380
are you sure? :/
I'm not trying to cause panic, I just want people to counter my scenario.
that's the only thing that worries me.

>> No.17083420

>>17083414
If you live in a common law country then whatever you call your highest courts would never allow it

>> No.17083443

Looking at an european dealer here
>average selling price 20€ per coin
>rebuy price 15,20€
>you have to wait silver to do a +25%, which could take years, to break even
Well, guys??? How do you explain locking money here and not using that same money to buy stocks or crypto?

>> No.17083485

What % of your stack should be ASE? got 60oz now with 20 eagles.

>> No.17083492

>>17083443
Schiff.. I'll leave this one for you.

Also, what European dealer?

>> No.17083494

>>17083443
selling silver online. There's your problem. You'll have better returns bartering in person

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>>17083215
And here's my entire updated stack!

>> No.17083511

>>17083495
imagine being as based as this guy.
have you tested for fake silver?

>> No.17083523

Have fun betting against the JP Morgan desk that has had the get out of jail free card for MM since ‘08

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>>17083495
impressive, very nice

>> No.17083536

>>17083495
That's actually pretty impressive for an internet shitposter.

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>>17083016
inexplicably based, i just picked up a dozen 3.5toz valcambi memebars from JMB to hand out to random plebs
>>17083069
good buy, silver is silver but i won't be caught dead holding a lizard coin
>>17083215
nice
post tits right now, that is womens handwriting

>> No.17083553

>>17083511
I've tested a good portion of it, but not all. All obtained through apmex, jmbullion, sdbullion and lcs.

>> No.17083571

https://www.jmbullion.com/1-oz-valcambi-gold-combibar/
these kind of bars seem pretty dope. Are they a scam?

>> No.17083577

>>17083543
>silver is silver but i won't be caught dead holding a lizard coin
do you buy coins? if yes, which ones?
>>17083553
what kind of tests?

>> No.17083580

>>17083511
pretty sure if you're getting it all from(LEGITIMATE) bullion dealers then it shouldn't be a worry
then again what do I know

>> No.17083623

>>17083443
>Looking at an european dealer here
Check gold.de it's a price comparison site for good and silver both for buying and selling. Spread for 1 oz coins is like 70 cents or so.

>> No.17083627

>>17083577
Jeweler's scale, neodymium magnet test, icecube test, just for the larger pieces.

>> No.17083637

>>17083580
Yes. I buy from a dealer that is referenced by Perth Mint as one of their official distributors.

>> No.17083649

>>17083577
only coins i buy are ASE's, never buying queen silver, majority of my stack is in ASE's, have some rounds, 90% and bars
>>17083571
premium is high but i still have a couple, however if your stack is small i'd buy the cheapest over spot coins instead

>> No.17083650

>>17083627
thank you.
all real?

>> No.17083675

>>17083571
Not a scam.

>> No.17083690

>>17083543
Lmao they are making fun of us.

>> No.17083691

>>17083650
Yup!

>> No.17083710

>>17083571
>https://www.jmbullion.com/1-oz-valcambi-gold-combibar/
I am looking to get a 1gx50 bar. It looks so nice but I would like to finish my AGE collection first.

>> No.17083727

>>17078957
no. why? its used for its catalytic reaction. its actually the bulk filler in catalytic converters now days. they actually got zero platinum catalytic converters because of the price of platinum and companies wanting to cut corners

silver is considered a precious metal but guess what it cant ever be valued at $1k (american dollar) a ounce without massive inflation.

>> No.17083742

>>17083727
>without massive inflation.
why do you think people buy PMs???

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>>17083727
massive inflation? I got you senpai

>> No.17083879

>>17083215
great now i have to jerk off

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>the year is 2070
>a loaf of bread is $199.95
>an ounce of silver is $13.43
>anon on his death bed
>"iron hands baby, gonna buy another tube to the stack on monday"
>expires

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>>17083495
holy fuck dude, i hope you have that well hidden. I would get anxiety just taking that photo, after ejaculating of course.

>> No.17083996

>>17083970
>>the year is 2070
>>a loaf of bread is .05 Troy ounces
>>an ounce of silver is the global reserve currency
>>anon on his death bed
>>"Sure am glad I didn't listen to /biz/ and have a legacy to pass on"
>>expires

>> No.17084009

Where do you guys plan to sell your rocks when they moon?

>> No.17084040

>>17084009
shhhh QUIET

>> No.17084045

>>17083970
you worry to much, silver and gold are both under valued on purpose. mostly to prevent people from hording it, like one anon said about ((they)) want your money for fractional lending.
but anytime the US goes into recession or massive inflation, metals skyrocket, since the US is considered the safe haven to invest money.

guys be careful buying ASE's i have 100 1oz coins of them, and its mostly for prepper reasons, if SHTF people in the US people trust those, but to be honest, in any recession we see any silver that isn't so worn out that you can clearly read the print will do, so buy the cheapest you can (that you trust)

>> No.17084069

>>17084009
every city has a coin shop it seems like, but honestly i think websites give you a better deal.
never sell it to a pawn shop, they'll barely give you 75% of spot.
you just need to explore your local area and see what prices they'll give you and compare it to places like sdbullion.com

>> No.17084092

>>17083996
>>>the year is 2070
>>>a loaf of bread is .005 Troy ounces (of gold)
>>>an ounce of gold is the global reserve currency
>silver to gold ratio at 5550
>1 silver ounce at $800
>>>anon on his death bed
>>>"Sure am glad I didn't stack gold and opted for silver instead"
>>>expires

>> No.17084163

>>17083495
Damn those britannias are sexy! Nice stack anon

>> No.17084228

>>17084092
That is a dumb copy pasta. Today 0.005toz is worth a loaf of bread. Then you said 1 troy ounce is the world reserve. Where did the other 2.6 billion troy ounces go?

>> No.17084255

>>17084228
a loaf of bread is $7.50? damn anon do you live in Venezuela

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JUST CRASH ALREADY AAAAFAGHAAJFKGDFGFDGFDGDF

>> No.17084321

>>17083495
Any idea when the next Queens Beast will be released?

>> No.17084352

>>17084321
https://sdbullion.com/2020-2-oz-queen-s-beasts-white-lion-of-mortimer-silver-coin
the 2020 coin is released, so i give it till december before the 2021 gets released

>> No.17084371

>>17084352
So just one this year? 2017, 18 and 19 had two per year.

>> No.17084400

>>17084371
sorry i noticed there are 2 more to be released. but i didn't see anything on dates
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Queen's_Beasts_%28coin%29
heres the falcon, but it was released in 2019 so i don't know what it says 2020....
https://www.govmint.com/gb-2020-1-oz-platinum-queens-beast-falcon-unc

>> No.17084421

>>17084371
so this site, from 2018 claims they should all be released by the end of 2020, soooo i would guess sept 2020 will be the last one and maybe the next will be released this month... but i'm just guessing based on past releases

>> No.17084478

>>17084421
Okay, thanks. I can't wait to get the whole set then wait for her to die. Then when the price goes sky high I can point at the "reptilian shape shifter" trolls and laugh.

>> No.17084489

>>17079237
>Computer chips
>silicon
>literal sand

>> No.17084574

>>17082056
Why? Do you really expect to get back premiums if a short squeeze fiat collapse event really happens? Hell no

>> No.17084592

>>17084574
Widely recognized, no need for testing or 2nd guessing.

>> No.17084641

>>17083101
Don’t listen to autistic tripfag retards. Maple leafs are the cheapest government coins you can buy.

>> No.17084660

>>17084641
What would you say your % holding of ASE to >5oz bars should be. Say 100oz.

>> No.17084674

>>17084641
Disgusting nigger.

>> No.17084719

>>17084660
don't buy bars, ask any coin dealer, they just don't have enough buyers for them.
for ASE's, who cares. if you like them and can get them for a good price, buy them. otherwise buy from a local mint, just about every country has non government mints that are trust worthy and cheap.

>>17084674
fuck off dude, shouldn't you be on /pol/ shilling a corona virus thread

>> No.17084743

>>17084660
100 ounces or more. Preferably if you can buy a monster box, you’ve done well.

>> No.17084751

>>17084674
Haha, like clockwork.

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12 more hours and I'll have them.

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>>17083571
Can't argue with the reviews

>> No.17084818

>>17083649
Why all ASEs?
Do you expect to get any sort of premiums if there is a real economic collapse or fiat collapse?
I would think the more u think silver is going to go up in spot the better it would be to have as much silver as possible

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>>17084818
I currently have 40% ASE’s 20% in rounds/90%/bars each
ASE’s always sell over spot and are very liquid and trusted globally
Also i got deals from goldman sachs (treasury mint) for buying so much

>> No.17084865

>>17084782
i've seen one of those, it was like 100gram sheet, and you could break it off in 1 gram pieces. but the mark up was just ridiculous.
if you're a prepper though, i could see buying one...
>>17084818
ASE's are trendy
i talked to local coin dealer. and he said the mark up isn't worth it and he'd buy any silver coins regardless of spot price since he could sell them in bulk to a website.
but he also said he wouldn't buy silver bars (1oz 5oz 10oz) because he couldn't get rid of them.
i would assume though he could just pay a couple dollars below spot and still be able to make a profit selling, but he wasn't interested. it was quite odd

>> No.17084894

>>17084865
I think I'll stick with my 10 oz bars
Maybe once I have enough to build a small fort I will get some rounds

>> No.17084998

>>17084894
yeah honestly i'm sure websites will still buy them the next time silver skyrockets.
i just pay alot of attention (probably to much) to the price over spot i buy it for and the price i sell it for.
i'm still salty that i spent spot +$3 for my 100 ASE's and i'll get +1.20 if i sell them today.
compared to buying random good condition 1 oz rounds, for .+80 and selling for -.20
so i'd lose 1.80 per ASE, vs $1 for random 1 oz rounds...

>> No.17085056

interesting enough on sdbullion i can buy 1oz bars for spot +.60 and sell them for -.20
and their 10oz bars are +.90 and sell for -.25
but to be fair their buy and sell prices to change based on spot

hell i'm tempted to look at 1oz bars, but that one coin dealer really scared me off bars, because even years ago they were cheap...

>> No.17085189

>>17084818
Why ask why about American silver eagles? Are you some sort of terrorist? Are you anti American/ anti white? What's your fucking problem with American silver eagles?

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>>17082486
> to make money someone must lose money
> stocks at ATH
> unprecedented QE past decade
> tfw one realizes who is losing the money

>> No.17085299

>>17084894
You can stack the rounds to make corner towers!

>> No.17085322

Metal dealer shill thread brought to you by apmex and jmbullion and Peter Schiff

>> No.17085334
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Just posting my stack. Started last year and still going strong.

>> No.17085335

>>17084489
>The economy collapses and industries stop manufacturing PCBs
>Silver goin to da moon!!!

>> No.17085346

>>17085322
Based.

>> No.17085353

>>17084045
You realize silver is worth less than it was hundreds of years ago right? If an ancient Roman was immortal and horded silver until now, it would have less value

>> No.17085468

>>17085353
Cringe.

>> No.17085475

>>17085322
Doubtful.

>> No.17085478

>>17085353
i did mention it's under valued? but with that said, i do believe silver will skyrocket in the next 5 years. and if you buy in today you should be able to double your money, which is roughly a 15-20% compounded interest, so better then the stock market
and normally when silver jumps, the stock market dives, so you can sell silver high, and buy stocks low. its a win win

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>>17083227
>>17083246

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>planned on buying silver with tax refund
>owe $300

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>>17083380
No ex-post facto tax is needed. It would be a "windfall tax" on precious metal capital gains to "discourage hoarding" that would otherwise harm the "real economy".

You can try to selling small amounts via the black market but good luck liquidating metal to buy a house or anything. Even if you trade the metal for the house directly, Uncle Schlomo is going to want his 95%. The only winning move in this case would be to hold the metal for longer than the government survives in its current form.

>> No.17085748

>>17085680
you realize multiple countries have in the past outlawed private ownership of gold? in the US they at least let you sell it for spot price to the govt.
the idea of a sales tax on metals though is pretty stupid, i think they would outlaw it before they started taxing it like that, to be honest i don't think indiana's sales tax include metals, so i could see states saying if a business sells it then you have to pay the states sales tax on it...

>> No.17085771

>>17085680
> tfw my silver might need to become generational wealth
> tfw my descendants would probably fuck it all up

>> No.17085806

>>17085680
>Uncle Schlomo is going to want his 95%.
In a previous /sg/ Schiff said that won't happen because it's absurd..

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>>17085748
Not sales tax. Capital gains tax. You bought that ASE for $20 and sold it for $200? That's $180 of capital gains. You owe $171 dollars to Uncle Schlomo. Enjoy your $9 of gains.

>> No.17085829

>>17085806
You're right, the government would never do anything absurd.

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>>17085817
Oh, what's that? The nominal price increased to $200 largely because of inflation and after tax you are looking at a loss in real terms? Who gives a shit you're a filthy anti-social hoarder, you don't deserve to make money just for buying rocks. Add in some propaganda and incentives for normies to snitch on "hoarder" tax evaders, and you have a recipe to make life difficult for silverchads. Not impossible, but not easy at all.

The road to metal-based profits is not going to be smooth sailing and "told you so"s to all the doubters while you buy up city blocks with ASEs.

>> No.17085867

>>17085829
I'm just saying what Schiff said..

>> No.17085887

>>17085817
right now capital gains tax is 0% if i make less then 40,000 for 2020. 15% for up to 440,000 and 20% for over 441,000
yeah they'll never make a separate tax for precious metals.
>>17085862
thinking the govt counts inflation, thats cute. also the IRS will give you 25% of any taxes they collect from you snitching, so never underestimate snitches...

>> No.17085961

>>17085887
>>17085862
then what do you propose?

>> No.17085976

>>17085887
>they'll never make a separate tax for precious metals
Already exists. Max tax rate for long term gains from selling collectibles is 28%. "Collectibles" includes coins and all forms of bullion. You've been filing your taxes correctly, right anon?

>> No.17086016

>>17085961
If things get that bad, the economy will be shitting the bed for everyone. Silverchads will get hosed by the law but will still be in a better place than clueless normies whose monopoly-money investments evaporate entirely. Hide your stack, don't tell anyone about it, stay alert for fuckery, be diversified. And take heart in the fact that JP Morgan will probably (((lobby))) hard against any punitive metal taxes, at least until they find a way to have it not apply to them.

>> No.17086112

>>17085976
hmmm i got nothing, hopefully the standard deduction applies to collectable gains lol, otherwise i would probably owe the govt a few dollars
i havent actually heavily invested in metals, been watching it for 15ish years, and just recently got spare money to buy a couple hundred coins.
also thats why you sell silver in small enough quantities that they don't send you a tax form

>> No.17086127

>>17085976
also you could just make yourself a business, then pay yourself a hourly wage for browsing /biz so your net profit gets reduced lol

>> No.17086146

>>17085976
and one last thought, i never received a tax form when i spent 1,700 bucks buying 100oz of silver. so in theory you could just claim you purchased it for much higher then you did

>> No.17086170

>>17086016
>be diversified.
across what?
> And take heart in the fact that JP Morgan will probably (((lobby))) hard against any punitive metal taxes.
> Silverchads will get hosed by the law but will still be in a better place than clueless normies whose monopoly-money investments evaporate entirely
thank you for giving me a glimpse of hope.

>> No.17086174

>>17086146
>and one last thought, i never received a tax form when i spent 1,700 bucks buying 100oz of silver. so in theory you could just claim you purchased it for much higher then you did
sounds based.

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>>17085334
Nice stack anon
>>17085680
95% tax is absurd, no way in hell they would be able to enforce that

Reminder that when (((Roosevelt))) made gold ownership illegal, all the good goyim turned in their gold, which was only 30% of gold owners, and the goys got rekt when they saw gold double in fiat notes 2 weeks later they handed over their gold
You think the smart money that didn’t fork over their gold lost anything? Hell no they just traded amongst eachother and through black markets if need be, gov is not that strong to kick in every single stackers door and torture them to find the whereabouts of their stash.
Not only is it implausible that such a tax would be imposed, it would be impossible to enforece.
>>17085976
Unenforceable, cannot force people to pay taxes even now, its why the IRS will never be out of business, they literally cannot keep up with tax dodgers, there’s too many of them, theyll always be finding more and more.

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>>17086016
I can tell you’re very high IQ, as is everyone who truly KNOW silver, however I don’t know who told you about this tax, i can confirm it will never happen, complete bullshit, i have their whitepapers

Was about to say this, literally why the fuck would they tax the shit out of their own guys

Royal families own central banks
Central banks own private banks
Private banks own politicians
Politicians own governments

That is the hierarchy of control in a nutshell, they would never tax the shit out of their own guys profit because its self defeating. Hence they won’t tax the average stacker. No need to pull that tax scam no one even owns physical, except for 0.0001% of the pop. And even then, those smart enough to own physical, their stack in of itself pales in comparison to that of their own hoard.

you guys actually don’t get it, they will moon their stacks when the time is right, thus your own stacks are mooned, they will buyout you guys with a shit ton of crypto credits, equating to insane purchasing power, you guys will say “why not all I want is a house, car etc” then trade in your stack and they issue you your stable credits for hookers, blow, a mcmansion and a lambo.
Thus they have effectively pacified you and those among you who knew everything we were led to believe is/was a scam and that they were running the biggest and most elaborate ponzi scheme ever enacted by giving them (those who recognized the scam) everything they could want in return. Better yet, they now have a 99.99% strangehold on metals, specifically silver the most important metal.
no future without metals = acquire metals
Metals = future
Control the metals = control the future

Most of you lads will cash out early, even then you’ll still make it and be sitting comfy forever even when you cash out early. Those who hold on, after the massive buyouts will see astonishing gains after most of you guys sellout for the listed above.
Unprecedentedly unspeakable gains

>> No.17086535

>>17086363
i will never "cash out" i don't need lambos
i just need a future

>> No.17087347

>>17086363
WHEN THE PURCHASING POWER INCREASES AND THEY THINK I’M A PUNK
DUN DUN
EVERYBODY RUSHING TO THE COIN SHOPS I JUST DON‘T GIVE A FUGG
DUN DUN
I TOLD THESE MOTHA-MOTHAS
I AIN’T NEVER SELL!
I AIN’T NEVER SELL!
I AIN’T NEVER SELL!
I AIN’T NEVER SELL!
https://youtu.be/ryIjCkw3Jfg

>> No.17087982

>>17082008
Only buy SEs in 20 coin increments

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>>17081882

>> No.17087998

>>17078957
Still under $20. Pathetic.

>> No.17088127

Today’s catch. Gonna waste some money on the $100 so I can get a wallet.

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>>17088127
Whoops.

>> No.17088360

>>17088167
Why?

>> No.17088374

>>17085649
Start suckin

>> No.17088436

>>17088360
It was free that is why. I actually really like them so ill get the 100 goldbacks and a wallet. Not the best investment but I have wasted money on worse.

I am actually thinking about using the UPMA account with a debit card. For a "cash" savings account ill purchase $2500 worth of gold. I hardly ever use cash or a debit card besides when I buy weed so it wont be that big of a deal.

>> No.17088528

>>17088436
I’m not judging haven’t seen those before. I kinda do the same with the works Christmas account you can set up. Lately I’ve been thinking of a yard sale to collect more metals.

>> No.17088552

>>17088528
Today I am going to circle pawn shops for some sterling. Seems like a neat hobby. I also started collecting free items on craigslist that contain copper. Old drills and ceiling fans etc. and melt it into bars like this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJDJ5IJGhpc

>> No.17088608

Is copper a good investment?

>> No.17088634

>>17088608
No not really. Copper was linked to Alzheimers and wont be used much in the future. It does have some value though. I'm not looking to make money but a hobby of ripping apart things and melting my own bars. Seems fun and maybe one day itll pay for the furnace.

>> No.17088656

>>17088634
You mean aluminum and how fluoride makes the brain absorb the crap.

>> No.17088689

>>17088656
I am no doctor but plenty of articles...
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/02/11/copper-pipes-in-your-home-may-cause-heart-disease-and-alzheimers.aspx
https://www.alzinfo.org/articles/copper-play-role-alzheimers-disease/
https://nutritionfacts.org/2018/10/04/alzheimers-disease-and-dietary-copper/

>> No.17088724

I bought 1Kg silver in 2*500g Fiji ingots for 620€, good deal or not?

>> No.17088822

>>17088689
>plastic gives you estrogen
>copper gives you Alzheimer’s
I’ll stick with copper
I’ll stick with copper

>> No.17088858

why the FUCK are silver and gold dumping when there is so much uncertainties in the market. I WANT ANSWEEERSSSS

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Should i buy gold right now with my credit card, hold for a month and then sell?

>> No.17089243

>>17088858
Markets are up nearly 2% today. Honk honk.

>> No.17089304

>>17088934
no, your credit card interest is way higher then what you'd make with gold

>> No.17089310

>>17088858
..why you investing in metals to make money? should only do it when you're are free of debt.

>> No.17089314

>>17082008
>>17087982
If you buy in less than 20 oz increments you have to get a tube to hold them. If you buy 20 they ship with a tube.

>> No.17089376

>>17085334
junk silver *thumbs up*

>> No.17089425

>>17089376
"junk" silver is kind of risky imo, a lot easier to get fakes. i remember the quarters from the 60's would have the same design but some had silver and others had far less...
and over time the dates wear down so you can't tell what year it was actually made

>> No.17089704

>>17089425
based fud to keep accumulating.
You have to be a total retard to get fake junk silver. Just buy from reputable sellers and locally if possible

>> No.17089850

>>17089310
I am debt free. Not directly invested in metals but in mining stocks, with high correlation to metal prices.

>> No.17090276

>>17083970
>the year is 2070
>poster /biz/17083970 is dead
>nothing of value was lost
>anons who bought silver have all spent a mere 10oz of silver for immortality in 2053

>> No.17090462

>>17088934
Gold is not for speculation,atleast not in physical form. U buy gold to conserve your wealth for years and decades, because gold has an intrinsic value with the mining and refining process. We cannot make gold. It is hard work to mine it. Gold is an insurance against inflation.

>> No.17090652

>>17090462
ok boomer.
literally the only reason to buy gold and silver is for speculation, because if you buy it within a few years of a US recession it'll double or if we get another carter who doesn't understand the economy at all and get a recession plus massive inflation it'll triple.
to be fair it can be used to hide your wealth but i think the majority of people on /biz aren't drug dealers or taking massive bribes and need to hide large amounts of cash

>> No.17090725

>>17088608
I wouldn't spend thousands on it myself but its a very useful metal and its only been increasing in value as supplies of it steadily lower

i just find scrap copper and stash it away when i can
(pennies made before 1982 are about 90% copper)

>> No.17091082

>>17084255
In the US. The french bakery on main street sells a loaf of sour dough or other fancy high quality loafs for that price roughly. Certainly not wonder bread.

>> No.17091141

Do these online retailers require signatures on delivery?
>buy silver
>receive silver
>claim silver wasn't received
>get double the silver for free
See u poorfags later I'm gonna be rich

>> No.17091159

>>17091141
Sometimes. Sometimes not. It weird when they do and dont.

>> No.17091345
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Here's my stack, am I gonna make it?

>> No.17091362

>>17091345
Is it in your hands?

>> No.17091410

>>17091345
i've heard the majority of silver and gold, they have on those online sites, its imaginary. like its just zeros on a spreadsheet.
congrats you have fiat silver

>> No.17091579

>>17091345
>Jew "Silver"

>> No.17091606

What's everyone's Gold : Silver ratio?

I'm thinking 1 oz gold for every 100 oz silver?

>> No.17091630

SLV holder here. I'm on mobile so IP changed.
>>17091362
No, it is in JPMorgan's hands. And I certainly trust JPMorgan more than I do my self to keep my assets safe!
>>17091410
Yeah and the sites who make these claims usually sell bullion. Bullion sites, guess what, assrape you on fees and premiums when you buy AND sell!! I have zero fees and premiums with SLV!

>> No.17091697

>>17091606
i don't buy any gold, gold is more for the wealthy. so if you want to put tens of thousands into metals, then sure buy mostly gold. i think i would probably stop buying silver at 1000oz's and start picking up gold at that point, because it'd be much harder to hide selling that much.
>>17091630
you know i don't want to be negative, so good luck with that

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>>17091630

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>>17078957
50/50 metals/bankercoin

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>>17091606
That’s what I do but I’m also autistic and have gold fever. I wish I lived in a area where I could prospect.

>> No.17092019

>>17091606
I am at:
1.95oz gold
58oz silver

I need to up my silver but keep buying gold instead. Almost at 10 1/10 AGE, then Ill go back to ASE.