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First for FUCK NIGGERS

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1505117-20200127.htm?spTabChangeable=0

Mongolia closes border with China amid virus fears

What put should I go all-in on when the market opens?

MINING JUNIORS

AMD Chads cautiously optimistic about the future.

>>16996804
>amid

>>16996788
>>16996788
>>16996788


Reminder Patents released earlier this month from Tesla with REFR tech.

The volume is coming soon.

How many shares do you want to own at $3 that could potentially be $30 within the next couple years?

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-filed-a-new-patent-automotive-perforated-insulated-glass-structure

>>16996809
>Red code
The AMD gods have spoken

>1 hour

Buy SPCE. Don’t buy the top of these meme coronavirus related stocks and get bogged. DCA down on a stock that’s going to be at $60 by the end of the year.

>>16996846
Tesla takeover of SPCE when?!?

Kyrgyzstan closes border with China

>>16996846
How heavy are your bags?

https://kabarlar.org/news/109393-kyrgyzstan-zakryl-granicu-s-kitaem-premer-ministr-abylgaziev.html

>>16996846

>Buy a stock that is 10% down premarket

I'm good famalam. Feeling comfy with my couple thousand REFR position

is happening or nah???

Do I buy APT at open or is it gonna dip later?

>>16996868
>>16996858
I wish other countries had the same strong leadership as Kyrgyzstan and North Korea

>>16996860
Heavy but I been buying since $7. Just some advice for anyone holding and in red. No reason to panic sell, this coronavirus meme will pass. Now is the time to create a position to make even more money. I’m going to to buy more making my bags heavier all this week.

Alibaba went form 230 to 200 because of this shit, and guess what, I bought at 227, without watching the fucking news, should i just take the losses and bet on sell? This will probably get to 180 next 2 days right or even lower, coronavirus doesnt seem to get any positive news.

>>16996878
>quarantine went from 10 to ~60 mil in a couple of days

>>16996878
This it's up like 30 percent before open is it going to keep mooning or selloff at open, also what about yang it's up like 16 percent before open

>>16996870
I’m in REFR too

where'd that greek bank nigger go?
give me a qrd

>health committee says germany is well prepared
>passengers from chinese airlines will be handed flyers
lol

>>NY Fed Accepts $49.6Bln Of Securities In Overnight Repo Operation
what magic are the jews doing? are they trying to keep the market afloat?

>>16996890
just hodl it until it's cured in like 5 days and everyone realizes they're still retards who buy/dump shit without thinking

i'll buy SPCE when it fills the $12.20 gap

>>16996857
never
SPCE is Richard Branson's ego trip, not Musk's

>>16996830
As both a REFR and TSLA stockholder, I don't believe that Tesla will use SPD-smart glass and I am pretty sure they will come up with their own. There are multiple smart glass companies so the patents cannot be that tight.

It appears they're going to add in a layer of LED to produce lighting within the car. This is an improvement on current smart glass.
>Tesla wants to bring the concept to a new level by also adding a “transparent lighting layer” with LEDs inside, according to a new patent application.
https://electrek.co/2019/04/29/tesla-sunroof-electrical-tint-lighting-system/

>SAVA is back below 7 bucks a share
That is buy range as fuck right now. Too bad I don't have any money to buy shares with for a few days.

>>16996838
I've been reading Chad/Virgin memes wrong this whole time. I just realized the captions line up and you should read the Virgin one first then the Chad one then go to the next and so on. Learn something new every day

>>16996903
lol

>>16996919
I hope it doesn't malfunction when you're driving and obscure your view of the road...

>>16996931
Current regulations outlaw front window tinting nearly everywhere and even if they didn't, I'm sure they would program the computer to safely pull the call over if there was a malfunction.

I’m writing covered calls on my SPCE bags and buying more stock with the premium I collect. Join me to in traveling to a world of riches

>>16996958
why not buy calls on VIX instruments and make real money now? this panic isn't going away

Why is /smg/ so full of people who act like they are married to a stock? The stock might drop every day for 10 years and they will call it a discount decade. They get personally offended when you argue against buying shit that has flatlined for years or dropped 10% in a single day.

Even after all this time I just dont understand.

For those waiting for a TSLA buying opportunity, here it comes. It's down nearly 4% premarket and earnings are in two days.

>>16996977
I sperg on here about how good tsla is and Im out lol

Ok, i haven't been monitoring threads, so how many of you actually know that the virus was engineered?
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985
And what it implies?

>>16996977
why not wait until it goes back under $300

>>16996966
Is a good idea. I’m thinking about it or buying calls on SOXS

>>16996986
we're only at 10/90 odds right now that this is engineered
much more likely (50/50) is that it was one of the viruses that china was researching, and it got out, but not modified in any way. There are real viruses out there made by nature that are this bad or worse. no reason to suspect that they have modified it, viruses mutate enough on their own anyway.

All in on SQQQ, boys.
The bears are back in town and they are welcome desu

>>16996999
Did you cech the paper? 2 authors work in wuhan. The paper is about a chimera sars virus they made, to see it could infect humans. Part of me wishes to long north korea right now

Kek Trump has been too hard on the Chinese with this trade deal, they left a virus get out and are destroying theirselves

>>16996983
>He fell for the FUD.
>He missed out on the next GOOGL or AAPL
>He is going to be stuck without a good entry like everyone that sold during the recent bull run.
>>16996987
There is no foreseeable path back down to $300 outside Elon Musk dying or a gigantic recession. It may not even dip past $500 if earnings are good and there is another pump.

Get ready to buy airline stocks after the hype blows over. AIr France down another 6.3% , Lufthanasa down 4.7% , Chinese Eastern and Chinese Sourthen Airlines down another 3.5%

>>16997026
60 year old retirment age
might see the impending economic disaster and release it to clear some debt

>>16996846
sold mine at a small profit.

Will rebuy if it goes low enough...say 12-13

>>16997033
If I don't see it under 320, I'm not buying even a single share.

Bought Lake for 15.50.
A bit of a risk when its this high but I hope market opening turns it into a profit

Today is going to hurt, and hurt badly.

Trying a China play. SXTC. It’s not pumped to the moon pre market so hopefully this works out for me

>>16997026
His abilities seem kinda godlike, now that you put it this way. Also iran...

we need some pink boomer wojacks for stock market dips

>>16997067
it doesn't have to hurt anon

>>16997090
I only have a green boomer wojack
and my photoshop is out of commission :(

>>16997048
>If I don't see it under 320, I'm not buying even a single share.
That's fine. I'm not here to sell you on it, I'm just exchanging information. Maybe one day I'll get paid back by someone here recommending something good instead of meme stocks that never take off.

These pharma companies treating 2019-nCoV reminds me of oil stocks. One day pump, and then it dumps the next day.

>>16996801
D E V I L I S H

>>16997090
>Boomers
>Active trading
>Caring when their long term stuff goes down
>Even noticing it
Nah

>>16997109
I told you to buy UVXY calls on Thursday and Friday in no uncertain terms
if you're buying TSLA instead, that is your choice

>>16996805
Crowdstrike long puts for July,35 strike

>>16997116
boomers are going to be double-panicking when they realize that they are at risk for this virus AND their retirement funds got wiped out at the same time
this is unironically the boomerpocalypse, the perfect storm

>>16997118
My broker banned UVXY. Dont know why. Found out today that VIX is tradeable though

How many days of red before we hit bottom? Premarket suggests we lose 2% or more today. A few days of this will rape my portfolio since I am heavily invested in leveraged ETFs. Should I sell or just ride it out?

What the literal fuck happend today to my index funds

>>16996919

Well first off, incorrect. Second, that article you linked is already 9 months old. This article is from 3 weeks ago.

Layer 206 is SPD, aka REFR technology.

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-filed-a-new-patent-automotive-perforated-insulated-glass-structure

So basically it's already confirmed.

>>16996846
Buy the fucking SPCE dip
Branson gonna pay my rent again this month

>>16997133
we're in the exponential growth stage of overall panic/market uncertainty right now
we are headed downwards (with brief upward bumps intermittently) until a solid foundation of good news is found
right now, we have china shutting down most of their provinces (work, school) and more and more cases showing up internationally
we have at least a week of solid red and panic ahead, unless something miraculous happens

>>16997140
Chinks

>>16997133
I would hold it, it's a huge overreaction by investors, and big money is waiting to buy the dip today.

>>16997149
Good earnings by TSLA, AAPL, AMZN, MSFT, etc this week and people will forget about it pretty quickly

>>16997158
>thinks the bleeding stops today

>>16997158
Doubt it, it will go down more this week i think, the situation in china is not getting better at all

>>16997111
Yeah I’m thinking the same. Should play it that way as well on your toes ready to sell on profits

>>16997166
that's absurd
no one care what happened last quarter if china shuts down all of their production and there are fears of worldwide pandemic
earnings aren't nothing, but unless they all blow estimates out of the water, I mean insane, unbelievable beats, the earnings will be pretty much ignored.

Anybody think MMM will have good earnings Tuesday?

I have $1,000. Do I buy refr or spd?

Its going to be another blood bath today gentlemen. Just think of the dips you'll buy afterwards.

>>16997185
MMM is a good hold right now
if you hold any stock, MMM is the one not to sell no matter what

hey remember when that virus made the stock market panic lmao

Realistic price target for INO today?

aAAAAAH my sp500 etfs aaaaaaaaaah

>>16997184
Guess we'll find out in a few days

>>16997128
Would be great but I doubt they will even notice it. My old man looks at his shitty fonds every two years. Maybe.
>>16997140
A bear attack
>>16997185
I think the virus wont affect them much. Just too big of a company, involved in too many sectors.

>>16997198
That virus in China that's spreading like a fire in Australia? The same China that makes everything? I'm shocked.

>>16997200
I’m saying 8 even pushing 9

>>16997205

virus is good for 3M because they make respirators
buy 3M under 200
buy anything VIX related as long as VIX is under 20 (it still is)

>>16997207
>That virus in China that's spreading like a fire in Australia?

oh please. Its not that bad.

WE IN FOR A RIDE GOYIM

Ding ding. I’m heavy in SPY and BABA and will not be looking at my portfolio today, or the rest of the week. Gbye frens

I love dips! What do I buy?

-$2,530.10 (-1.97%)
Today's Gain/Loss**

FUCK YEAH

>>16997233
Airline stocks when they stop crashing

help

>>16997141
You're not actually looking at the patent, you're either just shilling REFR or jumping to weird conclusions. They didn't patent something that REFR already patented, that's ridiculous, and there is no reference to smart glass. This is insulated glass, not suspended particles that hold an electric charge.

Layer 206 is just a second layer of holes providing something like an air bubble. See for yourself:
https://patents.justia.com/patent/20200001932
>>16997118
I usually don't trade options, but that's my fault. Most of the outright stock picks here tend to be losers.

>>16997188
leave the drugs alone and buy equities...

>>16997236
Ive always felt like airlines are a great way to lose money.

SEEING RED AGAIN
SEEING RED AGAIN
SEEING RED AGAIN

SALT beat earnings heavily but it has dumped down to 4 bucks a share. That's a hell of a good price.

>>16997188

REFR is SPD you dingus

>VIX
>+43.45%

ALL In on alibaba SELL wish me luck!

>>16997207
>90 dead
rofl its literally nothing come back when 100k is dead

How is fucking AMRN going down faster than the airline stocks

fucking nigger crashes his helicopter and the whole market turns to shit.

>LCI
Hahahahahaha

>NKE

:(

>>16997090
Not wojack but still applicable

>>16997276
Where are your TSLA puts? It's time for round three.

>>16997232
Godspeed anon

Wish I had some money to buy all these cheapies.

>>16997276
Shut up.

>>16997298
SOXL fren, its not looking as bad as i thought!

These prices are looking juicy. Really glad I put out 50% cash on Friday.

>>16996890
Dump it bro, nobody with a brain is going to buy anything from alibaba in the next few months.

how do you do fundamental analysis to find when something is under/over valued? I'm sick of either buying index funds or betting on some random shit some retard talks about like the crypto retards

Okay I'm in ES now from 3238, let's pump it boys

>>16997254
I HURT MYSELF TODAY

How am I down 20% wtf is happening

>up 2 percent pre market
>down 1 percent 10 mins into open

I should just trade pre and post market liq is a meme

>>16997301
What cheapies would you buy if you had the money?

This is fun!

BUY LAKE AND INO YOU FAGGOTS

DO YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY DURING THE APOCALYPSE OR NOT

When you short stocks epic style

>>16997269
Nevermiknd it's recovering.. American Airlines down another 8%

>>16997309
Agreed. My theory is when there is really bad news and the market doesn't drop as much as you think it should that's bullish. Almost like people don't really want to sell and are looking for any excuse to be bullish but are still being cautious. I'm still keeping plenty in reserve should we drop further but unless something really devastating comes out I think we'll be back in the money pretty soon. I almost hope it keeps going though since it's more cheapies

Bynd is up

is this an exhaustion gap?

Overreaction market wide!!!

>>16997333
At this point my lake stocks are just covering my losses from everything else

BUY WHILE ITS ALL CHEAP

>Down by almost 4%

Fuck yeah. Stupid chinks, stop eating bats and most importantly stop dying.

>all my REITs shooting up
I knew it was worth it

>>16997357
Holy shit buy everything

>>16997254
Don't think you'll have to see my face again

>>16997367
EAT THE BATS, BIGOT

Sold off a decent chunk of some shit I considered "overvalued" a few weeks ago.

Thinking of buying back in with the profits (holding $600) or waiting longer for the bottom.

Im only down .18% and there's all these cheapies to buy. Thank you China

>>16997301
I averaged down on ONTX to .43. Was at .47

Dump incoming.

Which stocks would be a good buy right now while everything’s cheap?

No idea what to buy, only have 40 ducks

>>16997254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBaqtWAidIo

At least the miners are getting fucked too. I might be able to come out of this ahead.

>>16997411
SGMO road to 20
or road to 10 if you're impatient

>>16997411
AAPL, GOOGL, SBUX, NKE, APD, DOV, TXN, IRBO

>>16997416
we don't fuck minors in this country

>>16997411
>Cheap
Oh dear anon. You are up for the real awakening.

RELAX
1. QE4 is supposedly to stop now
2. Chinese death flu
3. Overextended parabolic move
4. Important earnings this week
Tin foil hat conspiracy: Trump wants lower interest rates. No doubt the genius economists will say Chinese death flu = global slowdown coming => lower rates. Never let a crisis go to waste as the elite always say.
If above is true, expect dovish FOMC on Wed, new ATH by end of next week.

>>16997327
SALT, right now. I would buy the shit out of SALT. They just beat earnings but are dumping like crazy due to the pandemic shit.

CHINESE MARKETS TO STAY CLOSED TOMORROW

>>16997460
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
(they were already scheduled to be closed all week before bait ebola even happened)

>>16997432
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States#US_States

>>16997412
save up and buy berkshire hathaway preferred stock

>>16997467
I sold some stuff that I was up bigly on to capture gains and generate liquidity to buy cheapies to compound my gains when we rebound.

>>16997459
can someone shed some light on the psychology of people selling random stocks that should not be affected AT ALL by a meme virus? I'm all into chinese stonks, the markets are closed now. I'm sure I'll take a huge hit when they open up again, but I'm watching US stonks dropping like CRAZY today.

>>16997460

>>16997412
>40 ducks
Duck eggs sells for like $5 a piece. I think chinks are the ones who mostly buy them though, you might die of gookAIDS.

STOP SHORTING REFR

>>16997486
have you ever heard of a stock market index, mutual funds, or exchange traded funds (ETFs)?

>>16997496
Reminder ducks are free

Buy LCI. Ride it to earnings.

>>16997460
How is it even allowed to close markets.

Fuck you company just give me my monthly salary and the advance you promised me 5 months ago.
I gotta grab some cheapies.

>>16997508
When will they open?

Market knows this pandemic is a meme.
>only kills weak immune systems
>hasn’t even killed hardly any weak immune systems
>found that the virus is weak to high temperature

>>16997514
>still waiting on Fidelity's interns to validate my account

>>16997502
thanks for shitting all over my weak attempt at catharsis, anon

>>16997508
Might want to check their flag again

>>16997516
wednesday
https://www.tradinghours.com/exchanges/hkex/trading-hours

>>16997518
panic is a meme
it spreads like a meme

>>16997529
I'm sorry! sorry! :(
when everything goes down like this, everything drags everything else down

>SOXL down nearly 10%
Buy more now or wait? It has exhibiting relatively lackluster performance so far this year by lagging TECL.

>put a decent chunk of money into emerging markets funds days before the third world does third world things and destroys even the regular stock market
I'm not even going to look at my brokerage account for weeks

My McDonald's cashier just told me to buy the dip on TSLA

>>16997532
>>16997516
HK opens Wednesday, mainland exchanges open next Monday (planned, but if things get bad enough they might stay closed for a while)

>set trailing stop loss for UBER at 36.08
>sold at open for 34.72
>popped to 36 within minutes
Do I buy it back at a higher price? Fuck...now I know.

>>16997541
that's why he is going to stay in mcdonalds

>>16997545
* that website says Friday for Shanghai... we'll see if that holds or not. I think Shanghai workplaces and schools will still be shut down through beginning of February at least
https://www.tradinghours.com/exchanges/sse/trading-hours

DOW DOWN DOESNT MATTER STONKS ONLY GO UP AND UP UP AND UPASDUAPDSUFGPSDFUGHDFJKNBIUJGFDNBiuxnfgbijndfglibndsrtiubnsritb

AAAAH MOMMY IT HURTS MAKE IT STOP WHY IS IT ALL GOING DOWN MOOOMMMMY MOMMY

>>16997416
>tfw my junior miner released good news today but the market is taking a shit so I'm just moving sideways
Feels ok I guess

I think Robinhood shit the bed again. One of my calls is showing it’s up 8,333% and I can’t find a reason why.

I hope VAS:ASX crashes tomorrow. I sold out a few days ago but it's only going up. REEEEEEEEEEE. I hope you American crash into the dirt so everyone else gets scared.

Buy the dip. This virus is less deadly than SARS and market went up 35% before SARS was resolved.

+10% by Friday

>>16997579
its not about how deadly but it is about how contagious the flu is

>>16997574
TDA down too

>>16997579

太 Li Taisheng said, according to common sense, the shorter the incubation period of a virus, the stronger its virulence and the greater the number of pathogens. However, according to the data released now, the severity of pneumonia caused by the new coronavirus is not at all lower than that of SARS, which is very unusual.


Focus 1: What is the current stage of epidemic development?

Experts predict that the epidemic is now entering a more severe and complicated period. Nationally, the epidemic is still in its early stages of spread. Ma Xiaowei, director of the National Health and Health Commission, said that the current epidemic prevention and control is in a critical period.

http://news.workercn.cn/32843/202001/27/200127213444934.shtml

>>16997574
IV

KL has no reason to be down almost 5 percent from my buy in but, here I am this morning.

Based china ruining the world economy with yellow fever. I'm gonna invest in magic crystals.

>>16997587
It's about deadliness. Contagious virus that barely kill people doesn't matter at all.

Hey SOXL anon, if the virus gets worse, how bad is it for SOXL mid-term? I assume China does the manufacturing for a lot of the companies in the index. I’m definitely buying the dip, just not sure how far down it’s going to go.

>>16997587
>the flu
>Influenza has already sickened at least 13 million Americans this winter, hospitalizing 120,000 and killing 6,600, according to the CDC. And flu season hasn’t even peaked. In a bad year, the flu kills up to 61,000 Americans.

Why the fuck does anyone care about this chink virus?

>>16997591
Priced in. When will delusional bears ever learn?

>>16997541
You would do something like that? Tell lies on the Internet? My father works for Nintendo and he just called you a faggot.

>>16997611
flu kills infants and boomers most of the time, coronavirus kills anyone

>>16997545
yeah.
I'm seriously considering on setting a stop loss while on profit for all my chinese stonks to have cash on hand to short the fuck out stuff that feeds off this fear.

>>16997619
>coronavirus kills anyone
Proof?

Been putting 250 in every week am I gonna make it?

Is the Schwab app good or should use something else?

ONTXbros this is fucking painful

>>16997632
get a real broker anon

>>16997658
:(

>NUGT

Thought I had one gem in this pile of shit FUCK

>>16997601
>it doesn't matter that lots of people are getting sick and aren't showing up to work
>it doesn't matter that cities with millions of residents are being shut down
>it doesn't matter than everyone is freaking out
ok retard

>>16997657
i feel ya bro
the big news is going to be next week r-right?

>>16997619
Time to pump the coronavirus scare was last week and the weekend. It’s over. The market is going to bounce. Take your fear gains.

nothing about this looks good to me

>>16997670
you forgot the important part:
if you get this virus, even if you live, chances are you will have damaged lungs for life
people like to look at the mortality rate and think: x% dies, (100-x)% lives and is perfectly fine
but that isn't the case at all
this virus is not kind to the body. it'll fuck you up

>>16997670
those "people" are communist chinese, so it doesnt really count

honestly what caused everything to recover immediately this morning? was it the repo?

>>16997677
>chances are you will have damaged lungs for life
Source?

>>16997679
technically you are correct, but if all your manufacturing robots stopped working you'd be in trouble, right? That's what's happening in China. All the drones are malfunctioning.

Is it still too early to buy airline stocks?

>>16997674
Soon anon... soon...

>>16997632
Seems okay. Just make sure you don't get too cocky.

Rh is fine btw, but I use Webull now

>>16997696
id wait for the first hint of recovery, beer gang virus will probably get worse in the next few weeks

You ARE joining the YANG-gang, right anon?

>>16997657
>>16997674
So glad I dumped my ONTX and just bought more SNSS

>>16997684
it's just ebb and flow

>>16997692
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext
pay attention to the chest CTs especially

>>16997694
Bullshit. SARS had little impact on chinese manufacturing.

>>16997602
If you look at the chart history of SOXL and a synthetic version for before SOXL existed you'll see it tracks the overall market very well just with wider swings and larger upside since the market as a whole benefits from an updraft and technology stocks the same but more. The upshot is SOXL moves about 5x faster than SPY in every direction in the mid and long term. Where Coronavirus carries the market thus goes SOXL. So if this thing does get worse expect a big market dip and mind-numbingly huge dip with SOXL. But then they find a treatment and a cure and the world moves on. SPY goes back to all time high and if you had the presence of mind to go deep into any/all SOXL dips you will be sitting extremely pretty.
More pointedly, I don't expect SOXL to be hit much harder than what the 5x multiple implies so when it drops jump in with both feet. For anybody that doesn't have any at all, right now would be a great time to get started with a few shares.
If you want to be cheeky, should the market really go south, expect volatility to blow through the roof in which case swinging SOXL/SOXS will be the ticket. I'm not a TA fag but I'm not oblivious either so I just look for horizontal lines of support/resistance and buy/sell a few shares. That way you can lower your average price for SOXL and have something to do while we wait for the real gains.

All these retards thinking markets gonna bounce soon. CCP is clearly cooking the numbers look how fast that shit spread from 1 or 2 cases in 1st world countries. The numbers shown by the ccp was probably days ago. Whole cities locked down and doing fuck all for GDP. Hospitals gonna be overwhelmed with flu and virus cases.

>>16997684
The market doesn't just go straight down, it will bounce at strong support, test higher, usually during these kind of bearish events it fails to get above the needed resistance it has to gain and then continues lower. Basic stuff. We will need more bad reports from chink land to drive this bull downwards to critical levels

>>16997739
THE VIRUS WILL KILL THE HUMANKIND AND I WILL MAKE MILLIONS WITH MY SPY PUTS BUT MY MONEY CAN'T BE USED BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY TO ACCEPT MONEY HAHA

>>16997726
SARS didn't spread in major population centers
SARS didn't result in a country-wide shutdown
SARS never had the infection parameters we are seeing here, it never went truly exponential
comparisons to SARS were barely reasonable on Friday
if you're still making comparisons to SARS now you are out of your mind.
Even if you don't think things are worse than the Chinese numbers that they're reporting, this thing is already way beyond SARS in purely human impact, the economic impact is greater by a factor of 20

Is it a good idea to evacuate people from Wuhan?

Recommend me something to fap to

>>16997778
Why contain them?

>>16997769
it's obvious. Corona was mutated from SARS by chink bioweapon engineers. So obviously it's much worse.

>>16997719
Stupid boomers are going to blame him for chinese virus, sanders is gonna be the democuck nominee and trump will prob win again, i know that if yang aint the nominee im gonna vote trump, two party system is retarded

>>16997723
>29% develop ARDS
H1N1 ARDS rate was around 25%, so comparable. Permanent fibrosis following H1N1 was around 10%. Won't necessarily be the same for this, but there is no reason to think that the risk of fibrosis is as severe as you stated previously.

>>16997788
Big Tiddy Goth girls

>>16997788
big titty goths

>>16997792
Let it spill out into the schools and the churches, and the sound they make rattling their cages will serve as a warning to the rest.

>>16997794
>voting yang to crash the economy.
hmmm, tell me more about your plans. Well you buy at the crash or short all the way down?

>>16997657
Where did you buy in anon? China IND news will be out in the next 2 weeks guaranteed based on when it was submitted last year. Wouldn't be surprised if it was EOW. ONTX frens will be fine with a little more patience

Poor normie here

I am 28 and have 34k in my 401k and like 2.5k on Robinhood. I was thinking about opening a ROTH IRA and trying to max it out each year. I only make like 40kUSD/yr. and I am back in college to finish my bachelors so I'll owe like 40k when I finish that in like 2 years. I still work while attending college. Which course of action is best? Part of me wants to pay towards school but another says "time in the market > timing the market" and I already feel way behind at 28.

Pls help. Should I just pump money into index funds?

>>16997792
To stop the spread

>>16997807
Crash it all down, with no survivors

What's happening to KBLB? Is the virus contractable to spiders? Can they not make protective gear?

>>17000000 decides what we invest in

>>16997812
>Should I just pump money into index funds?
Yes, but maybe be cautious and see where things go with this chinkshit.

>>16997795
I'm not giving any numbers
we won't know how bad it is (at scale) for at least another week
but saying "oh it only has x% mortality, and only kills old people" is ridiculous. There are already several hospitals in China overrun. within a week, it could be all the hospitals in several provinces.
This thing seems to be very contagious and very harmful. We don't have a full view of it now, because we are in the early stages of the outbreak. But the spread seems to be completely unconstrained.
as far as the impact on international equity markets: we aren't really seeing true panic yet. this is still just caution and profit taking.

>>16997793
And they cleverly released in the middle of their own country. Devious.

>>16997812
Honestly, for you a ROTH IRA is maybe the wrong move, since your take home pay is only like what, 30k? Since you're in college and trying to relaunch a career or w.e, it might be useful to keep that money liquid, so you can easily move to a different city. Index funds would probably be better.

>>16997821
Hopefully it kills everybody so I can stop stressing about money and facing that I'll be a wagie for my entire life

>>16997828
of course. all the chinks are the perfect vectors. they'll do whatever their supreme overlords tell them

>>16997807
The compromise point for the basic income is an effective and affordable safety net

>>16997696
You'll probably have a few days if not a week to buy while it starts going back up

It's fucking over. This shit is going back to $10,000 people who don't die from coronavirus will rope themselves from losing their retirement

>>16997566
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Is the CLBI steamtrain worth hopping on? Any other cure makers who might hop on the Corona train?

>>16997832
What's a good target salary? I don't have expensive tastes and don't care for brands or living in expensive areas. Would trying to get like 60k-80k at a medium or low stress job allow me to speed up retirement? Or is that doom for eternal waging and I'd need like 200k a year just to get enough capital for passive income?

It's all so tiresome and demotivating.

>>16997837
1000 * 12 * 330,149,796 = 3,961,797,552,000

hmm yes, very affordable

>>16997854
depends on the cost of living of your area and how many kids you plan on having

>>16997856
It's only for adults btw

>>16997854
sell drugs, anon

>>16997824
>This thing seems to be very contagious and very harmful.
Based on what? A handful of dead chinks? Nothing about this indicates it is any worse than other previous scares. Allegedly overrun hospitals means nothing. People flood hospitals when they are scared which happens easily when the media tells them about an impending pandemic.

>>16997854
Probably like 65k is enough to live comfortably is a good target around late 20s. Though it depends on where you live. I live in a major city and I pay 1800/mo for a one bedroom/one bathroom apartment, so 65k doesnt go super far.

>AIRCRAFT THAT CRASHED IN AFGHANISTAN ON MONDAY WAS A SMALL U.S. MILITARY PLANE - U.S. OFFICIALS
you think the markets are bad now...

>>16997862
Girlfriend wants at least 1. We live in NE USA but she wants to eventually move to the south. I'm okay with moving to a cheaper area but only after I get an idea of wtf I am doing career wise, whether I wage for somebody else or stumble my way into some sort of self-employment

>>16997866
I dabble on both sides of the law but usually blow my illicit proceeds on entertainment like bar, gambling, or weed. This amounts to probably $150-$300 month on entertainment but I've been scaling back

>Bear incoming
>Literally all we talk about on friday, saturday, sunday
>Arguments over Yang vs shorting Airlines
>Its not even about risks or losses
>Its about how to make the most profit out of the panic
>People here still lose money with SPY and other stuff
How. What did you do these last four days?

>>16997889
go all in on XAR

>they think it's going back up

>>16997871
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.23.20018549v1.full.pdf

Beefy R0. Incubation period of 4-14 days in which people are still contagious. Allowed to spread in massive chinese cities during the new year when people travel for 2 weeks before china realized the depth of its fuck up

>>16997891
whats your degree in

>>16997893
>What did you do these last four days?
1. buy UVXY calls
2. tell other people to buy UVXY calls
3. drink 'ronas

>>16997856
seems like you won't make it if you're not even doing minimum research, look up studies from sources like the roosevelt institute and not from VICE, tumblr or reddit.

>>16997820
>Bears trying to turn a profit in a bull market

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UucHtYr29cE

double top VIX, alright, panic is done. you bears had your fun boys.

>>16997856
Yang's compromise ubi is an "mbi" that will only cover 44m and replace existing entitlements for a net cost of zero. I've done my homework already. Senate R's will go along because this reforms public subsidy programs and enacted under a trial basis, will help R constituents.

To help you understand, I've left out all the details

>>16997919
That was to:
>>16997897

I was going to try to get the GET later.

Coronavirus is redistribution of wealth.

>>16997921
VIX over 20 easy
over 25 likely, over 30 probable
we're just getting started, normies haven't even started panicking yet

>just remembered i had chinese food a couple days ago when i went out to celebrate chinese new years

am i gonna die bros

Coronavirus was manufactored not to kill the chinese but to build resistance for the <<true virus>>. That one will annihilate us.

Its true.

>>16997940
did you make out with the old lady at the counter?

>>16997940
good, one less tripfag to worry about.

>>16997507
Scam

>>16997906
Major is business administration. I just want to finish my bachelors that I started when was out of high school. Did 2 years at community college and paid cash as I went through work, took a break because I didn't know what I wanted to major in, decide I should finish because the more time that passes the less I'll want to do it. I know it isn't a good degree like STEM but I'm not smart enough for STEM (can't do math beyond algebra really) but I'm hoping I can finesse something. I've had to pass up on some employment opportunities because I couldn't check off the HR box for a bachelors degree. I'm not as spergy as a lot of people who come here and I've got a decently sized network and am always meeting new people who like me and think I'm smart and charismatic but I have a really poor self image and a total lack of direction. Kind of feel like I'm just stumbling along and trying to keep adding money into some investments so I don't entirely ruin my life because so far it feels pretty bad

>BEIJING REPORTS CORONAVIRUS DEATH CASE

I don't understand how the market is down for bad news, ever. Unless the world was about to end, why panic sell literally everything? Why would you sell when things will go back to normal afterwards? The only reason it goes down at all is because people sell out of fear other people will sell. It is so self fulfilling prophecy.

>>16997964
Source?

>>16997824
>I'm not giving any numbers
>we won't know how bad it is (at scale) for at least another week
... but you're gonna shitpost about people getting damaged lungs for life anyway

Buy the dip and profit $$$

>>16997966
60 million chinks in quarantine, who may or may not go to work once the new year is over
also, their exchange is closed until February

>>16997962
>Major is business administration.
Lmfao what a waste. Enjoy your debt stupid faggot

>>16997966
Never doubt the stupidity of the eternal boomer

>>16997940
You are already dead.

I feel like we aren't seeing nearly enough pink wojacks
I want to know if the guy who was all in MOMO with leverage is in the thread

>>16997966
>he doesn't understand the market has to come down to make quantie algo's look less like a scam

>>16997970
>https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1221817775737491457

I thank all the panic sellers who allowed me to liquidate my stocks on Friday, rebuy 110% today and have money left over.

>>16997977
>cellular organisms cannot survive high temp environments and contact with moderate concentrations of alcohols
chinks arent real

>>16998004
Bought back in way too early. Lmao

>>16997981
What's your major? Snoozing?

>Buy AAL put
>Immediately jumps up
FUCKING FUCK SHIT

>>16997981
I know it's a bad major but, like I already admitted, I'm not smart enough for STEM, have already missed out on employment opportunities that would pay more than I currently make because I don't have a bachelors, and it is at least a little better than gender studies or Greek history or something similar. I'm not fucking smart enough to be a STEM Chad

>>16997977
>just need a fever of 135 and we'll live!
lmao?

>>16998012
I'm already in the green from my point of buy-in, so no.

>>16998027
honestly tho, like you said having any bachelors puts you head and shoulders above not having any bachelors.

>>16998007
>virus
>cellular organisms

>>16998027
>I'm not smart enough for STEM
Spaced repetition and Anki got me straight A's in university including courses I otherwise had no business taking. Look into it if you ever struggle academically, it's a miracle cure
https://apps.ankiweb.net/
Read the following for some background: http://augmentingcognition.com/ltm.html

>>16998027
There is nothing chad about being a STEMfag. If you‘re incapable of learning the physical laws of the universe on your own and have to rely on a (((university))), you‘re not a STEMchad. /sci/lets SEETHE

>>16997898
>Our estimates of the reproductive number for this novel coronavirus are higher than most estimates reported for SARS and MERS-CoV, but similar to some estimates from subsets of data in the early period of SARS

>>16998056
>studying at all in any undergrad program
oh no no no
(that said, I only graduated with a 3.0 hehe)

>GOVERNMENT OF #CHINA'S #ZHEJIANG PROVINCE SAYS COMPANIES NOT ALLOWED TO RETURN TO WORK BEFORE FEB. 9
>https://twitter.com/C_Barraud/status/1221827108458188800

now that china is kill who will become the new china?

>>16998067
Sars wasn't contagious until it produced symptoms. This appears contagious during an asymptomatic incubation period. I dont give a shit buy this dip if you feeling so confident

>>16998084
I wish I got two weeks off of work :\
it isn't fair, why do the chinese get to have all the fun
year of the rat indeed

>>16998089
oh yeah that reminds me
*ahem*

SHORT INDIA NOW
SHORT INDIA NOW

>>16998056
why is that fucking girl in the picture so familiar

>>16998089
India

>>16998036
I had reservations when I was younger because I wasn't sure what I'd be getting into and how much it would really do for me. I tried some more physically demanding jobs that, while fine for youth, I wouldn't want to do as I age. I was dubious that a degree would be able to do anything for me but now that I've seen first hand that I can get plugged into some companies that people in my network work at it makes a little more sense for me to finish my bachelors since I can see some opportunities that would be readily available as I've already seen them, would increase my pay, and I wouldn't be financing all 4 years at high cost since I paid for my first 60 credits in cash. I'd love to make the perfect move every time but I'm not perfect and hindsight is 20/20. I'm just trying to be better today than I was yesterday. When the day comes for the Grim Reaper to take me home I will at least be able to look back and say that I made an attempt instead of wondering about "what if"

>>16998056
Thanks fren, I'll check these out. What was your field?

>>16998056
>rolling anki boulders up a hill a la sisyphus style
god please no not again

How long will the dip last? When should I buy back in?

>>16998063
I do individual studying on my own but have no way to measure my knowledge to an employer (that I'm aware of) and my passion for science isn't deep enough that I'd want to work on it beyond a hobbyist level. The work is interesting but I get discouraged

>>16997977
>Alcohol and high temperatures kill a virus
Wow
Did China just reach the 1930s?
>>16998089
Me and my crew of course.
>>16998104
I mean shorting anything is good right now, so why India specifically? Because its a shithole from Udaipur to Varanasi and people swim in the ash and feces of the dead?

>>16997981
I'm about to start school for a BA in /biz admin, and it's a horrible major...if you have no experience. I have more than 10 years experience, and more than 50 direct reports. One of my direct reports has a BA in /biz and is a 6 sigma green belt. I have a HS diploma.

Ho lee fuk APT IS STILL going

>>16997992
Can't find the primary source

Wake me up, /smg/

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NVDA calls so tempting but I promised myself I would not buy single leg options

>>16998163
we'll have to wait
they haven't lied about much during this corona thing

>>16998160
Eh. Premarket was the best time to sell. Got 7.90 I think. But maybe I will buy back in now that it dipped...

We already know it will be worse than SARS. It may not have the same mortality rate (we don't know yet), but we definitely know it's spreading much more quickly (R0 of 3-5 wtf!!!), and unlike SARS people are infectious even before they have any symptoms. That is HUGE, compounded with the fact that China was late to start containment procedures, compounded with all the Lunar New Year travel, etc...

SARS caused 8000 cases over TWO YEARS with a mortality rate of 9.6%. nCov is now at 3000 cases in less than a month. High mortality rate actually hinders a virus' ability to spread. What's worse, 10k infections with 9.6% deaths, or 1 million infections with 4% deaths?

And that is assuming that the mortality rate is only 4%, which is impossible to know at this early stage.

Also, note that for the similar coronaviruses SARS and MERS, there was NEVER any vaccine able to be developed. I don't expect any vaccine to be able to be developed for this either.

>>16996923
well, it's not like it's a rule. doesn't always line up. many do

>>16998114
>Thanks fren, I'll check these out. What was your field?
Electrical engineering at a top 50. Almost dropped out then discovered the whole spaced repetition rabbit hole. Went all the way in and after a while classmates started getting mad cuz I always aced every test no matter how hard it was. Shit was almost funny. Like having a super power. Highly recommended.>>16998126
>>rolling anki boulders up a hill a la sisyphus style
>god please no not again
I'm behind again. It hurts

>https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1221831480910831621
>An antiviral spray against novel #coronavirus has developed in Shanghai Public Health Clinical Center, which can be put into throat as shield from virus. The spray can greatly help protect front-line medical staff, yet mass-production for public use is not available for now.

>>16998231
I wonder what it tastes like....

>taking free money from people who unironically believe the chinese government
does this count as arbitrage?

>>16998219
shit nigger. I'm electrical engineering atm, starting 3rd year in a month and I remember almost nothing from last year. what's this repetition shit?

>>16998231
Yeah...
Developed and tested in less than a week. Sounds legit

>>16998231
perfect excuse

>>16998242
I think they're trying to give the medical staff a placebo so they can keep working for another two weeks without losing their shit.

>>16998267
oops

>>16998268
maybe it's all stimulants and just a hint of opioids, yeah
or just opioids to keep the populace sedated

much better than nothing, really

or maybe it's eastern medicine, and it's just ground-up koala spray because the chinese word for 'koala' sounds like the chinese word for 'anti-viral' lol

>>16998205
Yeah. At some point the secondary effects of the crisis kick in.The problems will multiply as described here as quarantine allows the economy, as the "just-in-time" global business model behind to get stressed, you're looking at runs on all available stock, until food in particular becomes scarce, people are going to panic, they are going to riot, they are going to break the quarantine. Central control is going to be eroded until marital law is declared.

>>16998231
Yeah okay, does people actually believe this? Kek'd

>>16998205
What do you think of the rate of cases reported being much higher outside of Wuhan? Do you think the figures are wrong?

>>16998299
>or maybe it's eastern medicine, and it's just ground-up koala spray because the chinese word for 'koala' sounds like the chinese word for 'anti-viral' lol
kek

In any case, if they privatize mass production, that shit will sell like hot cakes.

>>16998205
>We already know
No one knows anything with sufficient levels of certainty to warrant that kind of statement you fucking moron. Anything at this point stated with a greater degree of certainty than "we suspect" or "we believe" is utter bullshit.

>Made 10% off short position on friday

Well that was a short recession, everyone is going back into bull mode now. Hope you bought some cheapies this morning!

guess what lads

>>16998352
>>16998352

THIS THREAD IS INFECTED

>>16998352
>>16998352
>>16998352

EVACUATE IMMEDIATELY

>>16998352
>>16998352

>>16998259
Imagine being able to remember anything you want no matter what with perfect fidelity. Basically makes memory a choice rather than an ad hoc phenomenon. Also makes studying much more efficient so no more rereading, highlighting or any of that shit. Med school students who have to memorize 10s of thousands of obscure esoteric shit swear by spaced repetition. The idea is when you are exposed to any piece of information there is an exponential decay curve for your probability of being able to recall it. It's found that if you are forced to actively recall the information when you have about a 90% chance of recall, the curve is reset but shallower. Generally every exposure is twice as long as the previous one. So you see something on day one then recall the next day. Then 2 days, then 4, and so on. Once you get to about the 21 day mark the memory is considered permanent. The trick to actively recalling when you have the 90% probability is you don't waste time looking at something before you need to so it makes studying that much more efficient.
Have you ever been just about to forget something but then right at that moment you thought really hard and suddenly remembered then afterwards noticed that thing in particular is now really easy to remember? That's the spacing and active recall effect and Anki hijacks it and makes it intentional.
Check this out for more: http://www.jackkinsella.ie/articles/janki-method-refined

>>16998219
Did you have a disposition for STEM even before formal schooling? Or did these strategies help you "brute force" the knowledge even with little interest and skill?

Defiantly shit the bed.

>>16998312
Nytimes reported 5 million ppl left the city already

>>16998205
>“We don’t have evidence yet to suggest this is any more virulent than the flu you see in the U.S. each year,” said said Dr. Michael Mina, an epidemiology researcher at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health. “Most people, with proper medical attention, will do just fine.”

>>16998379
thanks

>>16998178
CANT WAKE UP

>>16997033
Why?
Only volkswagen and toyota are larger in its branche.
Everything car related is factored in.
I could see them becoming the new GE that makes many things and powers the new renewable battery based electric economy.
But thats a big if.
And its already as big as the old GE mind you.
Was a great buy at 180 when i bought it. Sold way too early but im not going back in over 400.

>>16998310
I'd watch that movie

>>16996870
>REFR
redpill me on this please

>>16998311
The market will.

>>16997547
Bought back at 36. Why the fuck do I even come here? This is just crypto losers posting about how much money they’ve lost with the occasional AMD chad who probably doesn’t even trade.

Loaded up on VXX put options. Clearly this is an over reaction and we will be back at all time highs by friday.