/biz/ - Business & Finance

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first for bitcoin

Nth for silver curing wuflu.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apmex-1-kilogram-999-fine-silver-bar/324053400227?hash=item4b73167aa3:g:r1kAAOSwrvteLHgS
Might be of interest to someone. 1kg silver for $600.00

>>16982020
Probably a fake

Schiff, how do you test your silver?

>>16981936
SG is the most comfy thread in all of /biz/. please share you wisdom silverchads.

>>16982053
He shoves it up his butt.

>>16982020
Better off just getting it from the Apmex site.

>>16982065
Having an uncircumcised penis is great for masturbation:

1. When you climax, you can just clamp the foreskin with your fingers, ejaculate, and then just go to the toilet, sit down and dump the semen in the toilet.

2. Then proceed to urinate. While you urinate clamp the foreskin and release several times to flush out and clean the semen trapped in the foreskin and urethra.

3. Wipe the tip with toilet paper and flush.

I pity the dumbass cutfags that have to cum in a sock LMAO

>>16982020
>1kg silver for $600.00
too good to be true.

>>16981936
Findbullionprices.com will show you which dealer has the lowest price on certain items. It's super handy.

>>16982128
Wisdom I wasn't expecting but wisdom that I will still take note of

>>16982164
Thanks anon I will add it to the next thread

Has anybody done this gravity test?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoKBqFbGeyU

>>16982128
Based and foreskin pilled.

what are the best old junk silver coins to collect as an european? not looking at numismatic value, just closest to spot price if possible

>>16982128
>sit down and dump the semen in the toilet
truly a chad move

https://www.apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information
Sales tax information for all fifty states on precious metals

>>16982255
Eurofag from which country?
I'm an Eurofag too.
I don't buy coins so I can't really answer to your question, sorry.

>>16982307
nice Engelhards

>>16982350
thanks for the compliment but they are not mine

stacking for that rainy day

>>16982468
whats the picture from?

>>16982483
https://en.numista.com/
its excellent for info on numismatic coins and key dates, but excludes bars
i also use cointracking.info but is okay-ish
what do people use to categorise their collection?

>>16981941
Just got my verifying stuff from Amazon. Will test it on silver soon™.

Dammit I keep forgeting to put in the correct link to the Riotchat Room.

so here it is again
No email no phone number just good old fashion username and password:
https://riot.im/app/#/room/#SilverGeneral:matrix.org

>>16982642
A combination of the ultrasound test + the gravity test + the sigma metalics test is the best.
The ice test + the ping test + the magnet test are good but they only cover the surface of the item.
If you buy bars you wanna make sure that what's inside the bar is actually silver.

>>16982255
Dutch guilders are the cheapest way to buy silver in the Netherlands, also VAT/BTW free, silver count is relatively low (71%?) so you'll end up with a lot of bulk, buy back value is low too, that's why I don't bother with them, I may do so in the future though. Word is they are in abundance, yet they usually take a longer time to deliver than other coins like maples etc, that's why I chose maples

>>16982053

>>16981936
us Marshals online auction.

https://www.txauction.com/auctions/804/1/

>>16983334
this one looks like a deal

>>16981936
>Silver is going to explode within a few years or sooner
My ass is going to explode within a few minutes or sooner.

>>16983417
GO TO THE BATHROOM YOU SMELL LIKE SHIT

>>16983318
Thank you.

Why can't palladium, rhodium and platinum also be used as a store of value like silver and gold?

>>16983436
Because it's for homosexuals.

>>16983436
Those tend to depend more on the market demand than gold/silver

>>16983464
>Market demand
*Industrial demand

>>16983436
maybe platinum, palladium and rhodium value is derived mainly from muh catalytic converter. whos demand is subject to change with technological advancements and hybrid/electric vehicles.

>>16983464
>>16983469
>>16983489
thank you.
yes, like lithium and copper and other industrial metals.
>>16983462
you think a lot about butt stuff..

What's the difference between buying from an online exchange and local. Will the local Komen and pops nickel and dime you? Like upcharging per ounce? Or are the online companies that you place orders though more jewish?

>>16983595
Depends on the local shop. Some sellers price match or even buy/sell better than online. Some are just trying to blatantly scam people. Know your local shop owners and see if they are right for you.

>>16983595
depends some of my locals are within $0.10 of online, and no tax because im in a free state. on average yes they will be more locally though.

The first 5 oz I ever bought has been scheduled for delivery on Monday but USPS updated it earlier today to say by 7:00PM tonight I was expected to get it. The mailman came and only had a couple of pieces of junk mail.

>>16983707
My first bar is 2-3 weeks away, the wait is Killing me

>>16983734
Why so long?

My first 5oz came in today and I had a question for you stack chads. What sort of information do you keep track of in your silver spread sheets? The obvious things to me are:
>Date of purchase
>Total weight o.p
>How much I paid per oz
>The spot price that day
>and the dealer
Then I'll total up my weight and Fiat spent. Am I forgetting some info that may be important down the line?

>>16983803
Probably because it was a big sale
https://bullionexchanges.com/1-kilo-metalor-silver-bar

>>16983334
Do these auctions actually verify they're real gold/silver?

>>16983899
they are professional auctioneers. I don't know, but I'm guessing they would try to.

>>16983825

I keep no records, under the assumption that my silver stack is going to last longer than the government.

>>16983825
This is autism

https://youtu.be/VB3_oOxVqdk

>conviction trade for this year?
>Unironically? SILVER

>>16984284
>Yes good goy, be ignorant of your finances. Keeping track of your money is autistic. It'll be easier to offer you loans and credit when you have no idea what you can afford.

The Perth Mint coins are really pretty. Which should I buy a few of, even if they're a little overpriced?

>>16983707
>The first 5 oz I ever bought
What did you get?

Hey chicken little

What’s the short term trajectory for silver?

Looking for the next pull back and then want to order one of those plastic boxes with a single stack of rounds.

Pic unrelated

>>16984445
All you need to know is how many ounces you own

Just ordered another 20 oz, putting me up to 40 oz total. Goal is 100 oz and beyond.

Lets get it boys

>>16983528
I'm the jew now.

>>16983528
Also, lesbians do not take it up the butt, they just scissor or something.

Reminder

>>16985660
Not a very useful soundbite... what did he say about pm’s? Pretty sure he’s bullish on equities, don’t know about commodities. And I assume he means treasuries as well when he says cash.

>>16985720
he said you need to own gold and things like gold
he also explained how we went from a hard money system to a fiat system

its an absolute crock of shit that they are allowed to sell paper silver without being 1 to 1 backed in physical, no different than counterfeiting!

>>16985780
But the ETFs are backed by physical silver.
>>16985748
Did he really give a history lesson?
I’m pretty sure bridgewater is deep in equities. But I’ll have to check out the interview.

>>16985748
Pretty good actually thanks for bringing it to my attention. I wish boomer joe hadn’t insisted on constantly interrupting him.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/01/21/ray-dalio-investing-2020-markets-squawk-box-davos-interview.html

Anyone have his extended thoughts on the matter?

>>16985959
Full interview:
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/01/21/ray-dalio-investing-2020-markets-squawk-box-davos-interview.html

Are we going to see another summer dip in silver prices before they pop with the next recession?

>>16986641
Probably. I’m holding off till summer to buy. Right now spending all my money on green assets. Too bad they keep going up in smoke

>>16985190
It’s way more fun to measure in pounds when you get that much.

>>16986761
can confirm

>>16983825
>date
>price per oz

nothing more

>>16985959
why doesn't he mention silver?

>>16987447
so he can accumulate more but maybe he is scared his best friend was once so deep in silver he could have moved the silver market alone and he lost it all and filled bankruptcy. His book principles for success is pretty good only 40 pages in.

I bought 20 1oz Perth mint 2017 kookaburra's. 10 rooster privy and 10 normal. It was right at $500

>>16985748
No way he did that.
Link or it didn't happen.

>>16987669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZyWVxGXPHo

>>16985748
>>16987669
Holy shit ahhaha!
It's true!
So Grampa stopped lying?
Shocker.
Still, he a retard if he doesn't believe that there won't be a black market fro Privacy focused Crypros.
Lybra my ass.
What a piece of shit. He is either so corrupt that he doesn't care what Lybra is, or he is incompetent.

>>16987728
Cryptos*
Still, fuck those comunists retards.
They ll get what's coming to them, like it always happen, if they keep going down this road.
They ll realize that they shit and piss like verybody else, and that the sacrifices of the "normal" people is valuable.
One way or another.
The only solution out of the hole is LESS government, truth.
Pay for our mistakes.

I'm too lazy to do my own research, so please tell me internet strangers
How does it work? Do they ship silver to my house? Or is it kinda like stocks that I do have silver somewhere out there and can sell it all the moment price goes up a little?

>>16987795
1. ship it to you and actually "own" it.
2. buy a "share" stored in a valut. not actually yours and does it even exist?
3. ETF, paper silver that probably doesnt exist and not yours, but easy to buy/sell quickly.

>>16987817
Oh okay, then silver trading is not exactly what im looking for.
thank you stranger from frog website

>>16984482
5 ASEs, but also have on the way 5 more oz made up of 2 more ASEs, a Krugerrand, Kangaroo and Philharmonic.

Hey SENTbros I just discovered you today, and I'm really liking this dVPN, do I invest into SENT right now? I want to get in on earlly because it's so damn cheap!

>>16982128
>not eating it

>>16988444
>he wants to get herpes

>>16983436
they can but are mostly looked at as industrial metals.

>>16983825
a few more things to track
>premium based on spot price when purchased
>premium based on current spot price
>running total of weight
>running total of price paid
>average per ozt spent over time

>silver general
>/sg/
>not /ag/
wasted potential

>>16988725
the fuck is ag?

>>16985901
>But the ETFs are backed by physical silver.
the comex market buys and sells contracts all day long and no one ever takes delivery of the metal. there are reportedly 116 ounces of paper silver for every 1 ounce of physical.

>>16988768
are you so fucking retarded that you have never heard of the periodic table of elements?

>>16988795
I'm not that retarded I know what that is, I just didn't know "ag" was for short

>>16985962
>>16987728

Dalio looks to be talking about what to do when it’s time to get out of stocks.

>what do you do if you need to take it out of the market? You can’t go to cash. Cash is trash.

>you need to have a diversified portfolio that includes international [equities?] and things like gold

I wonder if there are other commodities worth getting into.

His argument against bitcoin is solid. It’s still too volatile to be used to store wealth, and it hasn’t YET been proven as a method of exchange. It’s almost the opposite of gold, which has a long history and is stable over the years.

As long as the primary use for crypto is people hoping it will “moon” or p&d’s and whale manipulation, big money isn’t going to want to use it.

>>16988773
Thanks. I’m still pretty ignorant about how futures contracts even work.

I’d love to invest in commodity ETFs that were backed my physical commodities and not futures contracts, but I guess that only makes sense with metals because everything else decays.

>>16983825
I track all that and I keep all receipts from every purchase I’ve made.

I'm looking to start collecting coins. Is looking into dollars and half dollars even worth it or should I just focus on quarters and nickles?

>>16988444
Back when I was in Middle school when I tried to masturbate while my parents were nearby and I can't go to the bathroom or there were to tissues nearby, I used to cup my hand, collect the semen and just eat it. It was messy and couldn't get the taste away so I stopped doing that.

>>16988839
A lot of the elements on the periodic table is based on Latin. For example

Pb for lead = Plumbum
Au for gold = Aurum
Ag for Silver = Argenti

And et cetera

>>16989299
Silver Nickels are only in 1941-1945 and they are like only 40% silver.

In my experience Half Dollars are the best. They are most often in sale and they are the perfect size, not too much or too little silver for practical use or trade.

Silver Dollars fall into collector territory and premium prices

>>16989405
Also Silver half dollars have a different design while silver nickels and quarters have same designs as the cupronickel counterparts, making it confusing and needing to sort them out and read the date every time.

Pic related is the best reason to buy into silver right now. The ratio between gold and silver has only been this out of whack a few times in the past 100 years and when it reverses course it will be an amazing opportunity to swap silver for gold.

>>16989373
> Argenti
It's Argentum.

>>16989405
If I were to look into half dollars, would sifting through pre ordered bank boxes work well?

>>16989373
>Fe Ferrum
>Cu Cuprus
>Sn Stannum
>>16988795
>>16988725
It may be wasted potential, but when I think "ag" I immediately click my brain into agricultural commodities, as opposed to silver.

>>16983825
I know that feel. I spent about 5 hours building a spreadsheet that has separate worksheets for Silver, Gold, Roth and BitCoin investments with almost all relevant data on each.The first worksheet is an overview page that pulls the data in from the separate worksheets so everything is interlinked nicely into a summary of activity. For silver I have the date of purchase, date of shipping and date of delivery. Of course the other info like cost, type of purchase (ASE). Might add purity level just because. We should try and remember this and compare sheets sometime in the future. Mine just isn't done yet.

>>16988916
>I wonder if there are other commodities worth getting into.
Monero.

>>16990592
Scam. There was a bug on the cryptonote protocol (which monero is based on) that allowed to print infinite coins. Because we can't know the actual supply someone may have abused this before it got fixed and could have been dumping/keep dumping their free moneros forever

Spot market opens in < 10 minutes. What will happen?

>>16991297
Looks like we are gaining some major altitude

>>16991297
im going to guess we are gping to be up the next few cycles until people get over pic related.

>>16983318
Just cracked over 500oz thanks to your shilling. can you post that image of the upside down gold or silver pyramid? i have some shilling to do and found it very convincing - along with your oz of weed analogy.

yes these threads have been a good incentive to stack, another excellent source of info is this youtuber;
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvSnci_3qHF_7c2LQnP_wg
His content is top notch with market reports, book recommendations and world experience.
Add him to the list of links.

Had a target of the 100oz 'suicide stack' plus 1oz gold for 2019. Now into 2020 I'm at 184oz silver & 1.45oz gold and it feels so good to have that safety net of savings.

we going to make it frens on this road of silver

>>16990106
Are you using Excel or Google sheets? I'm glad other people are keeping track of their silver and investments too. We should complete spreadsheets in the future, I only just started investing my savings and only have the 1 entry. Thanks for the input

not my pic but anyone knows an aliexpress dealer that sells those little plastic envelopes on the bottom?

>>16991977
I use excel because it has password protection and I can link to the spot price so that my prices are updated dynamically.

>>16992361
There's a ton of them, do a search for "coin flips"

>>16992707
Isn't there different kinds of coin flips? I heard a while ago that some of them are made out of cheap Chinese plastic that will dry rot in a few years and leave discoloration on the coins.

is it better to stack 90% junk silver or silver eagles?

>>16993190
personally i rather have the eagles if its only one or the other. i kind of look at 90% like 10% of the weight im stacking is filler. where the 0.999+ is pure value. however at the end of the day silver is silver and either will serve you well, most including me stack both.

>>16993190
no such thing as 'junk silver' my fren

>>16993434
I walked into this little rats nest of a coin shop in Dover DE and asked for constitutional silver and they didn't know what I was talking about.

>>16989477
At what ratio do you think it’s a good spot to start converting to gold? 30 -1?

>>16991977
Mine are on Excel but I need to transfer it to either OpenOffice or Google Sheets at some point since I've been doing it at work and am too cheap to buy an Office license.

how much gold and silver do i need to pay dowry for a jewish gf after the collapse

Is there a way to buy silver that does not entail a significant cost for actually holding the metal?

> buy physical silver (bullion, coin...)
Now I gotta buy a decent safe to keep it at home. Plus there are transaction costs (shipping fees or transportation fees to collect)

> buy online
I tried buying on Perth Mint, but they actually charge you a monthly fee to hold on to your silver.

Isn't there something like an index fund that's just indexed on silver?

>>16994288
6 million ounces.

>>16994324
shoebox in closet
metal box under floor boards

>>16994324
>transaction costs
most places have free shipping if you just spend more than a hundred

>>16994372
damn

>>16994372
my hopes and dreams just went up in smoke

>>16994372
>THAT much of a premium for Khazar milkers

They're worth it.

>>16991514

>>16991514
(((they))) hate the weed analogy, exposes them as the frauds and subverters that they are, that they even managed to suppress the price of silver 10x below a fucking leaf that grows on trees at an infinite supply

>>16991514
>when bitcoin’s marketcap is 10x silver’s mcap
>when you realize how massive the ponzi scheme is and how ingenious the creators of it are

How much silver I need to make it

>>16995034
1000 oz seems to be the lofty goal of many on here. I'm gonna try to do at least 5-10 oz a month.

>>16994751
Sup Schiff, you sometimes say that 14ounces, what Judas sold out Jesus for, could be worth 3milions.

I get that prices of silver would rise and prices amongst assets will fall, but thats 200 000/20usd/oz= 10 000times its current worth.

It cant possibly be that much. So can you explain some more here?

>>16994751
>>16994717
>so angry that intoxicants are worth more than his horded industrial material that he has to alter infographics that werent even accurate to begin with

>>16992669
How do you link to spot prices?

>>16995415
how so? prove your point or shut the fuck up

>>16991808
second this recommendation

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/7Uye0wCNRbAt/

fuck jewtube, don't feed the enemy ad revenue

>>16995446
which part?

>>16995352
Absolutely it can be worth that much
Don’t value in fiat
Value in other tangible items
A extremely nice house on the beach or ten brand lambo aventadors would be the purchasing power
It will be the greatest wealth transfer in human history
Just USD alone value for silver should be a over $1,000 per troy ounce
Now add in the euro
Now add in the pound
Now add in the yuan
Now add in all the other fiat currencies around the globe
Now you have a valuation drastically higher than that, and thats just the FIAT to silver ratio, not incorporating ANY industrial demand or the innate value of silver as the dwindling finite supply extremely high use case, future tech dependent metal that it is. It is the most important commodity in the galaxy. Throw all that on top of the fact that supply is eaten up by hoarders and mega whales who wont sell. That is but a nutshell of how one comes to realize how it will moon so high.
>>16995415
>seething weed smoking jew
I didnt alter any infographs dumbass shill, i merely implored silver being the tip of the pyramid by placing a dot right on it. Silver’s .999 MCAP is 0.018 trillion, golds is 2.4 trillion, silver is the absolute tip of the pyramid, and when all of your jewish manipulated financial institutions and digital wealth ponzi schemes come crashing down and all the true wealth floods into silver, you be priced out behind the dumbest of the dumb general population masses.

>>16983825
Thanks for asking this, I was wondering the same. Right now I only track the date of purchase and the price I paid. Should I also track the spot price at the time? Feels like it might be useful but also might lead to analysis paralysis. All im looming out for in the end is a moment to switch my silver into gold anyway. 6 oz staclet here, bought it all thx to these threads

>JFK wanted to reconnect the US dollar with silver.
>he also gave a speech about the danger of secret societies.
>and he was about to cut alliance with Israel
that's why they killed him.

>>16995545
you already answered your own question. have a column that tracks gold/silver ratio. you can never go wrong by purchasing silver when that ratio is high because it means silver is cheap compared to gold.

>>16995530
Alright, i get all of that, i have an open mind and everything in between but 10k* on 1000oz is 180million dollars in todays value. It just seems to damn much. It sounds too improbable

Its just hard to get, i get 1k*, for some reason, but not 10k*. And what would the world look like after this. Its all to much to grasp.

>>16995518
The infographic represent's Exter's pyramid. Give me a valid counterargument to it. You could invoke MMT, which is logically consistent, but based on unsound premises.

>>16995606
The soundness and validity of Exter's pyramid can be proven by the scarcity of Au and Ag and thier unique physical properties.

https://invidio.us/VwEolfPnKKA

https://geology.com/articles/uses-of-silver/

https://geology.com/minerals/gold/uses-of-gold.shtml

>>16995530
I have shilled nothing.

It's speaks to your agenda when you call people who disagree with you jews and shills.

>>16995606
Oh, the same old shit. The way derivatives are calculated for them to reach that figure is flawed,

>>16995656
and then I saw this post and realized the only part of the pyramid you care about are the gold and silver parts.

That's fine, buying silver is a hell of a lot better than gabling on crypto after crypto like the rest of this board does, or spending it all on clothes or some shit. I'll probably get some physical at some point in my life. The etf's are just so much more convenient at this point for me.

Gold and silver need to retrace a bit so i can buy more, I'd like to have 5% of my net worth in PM not including the miners.

>>16995562
Thanks for the advice anon, I will do that and forget the rest. Keep it simple
We all gonna make it frens

>>16995425
Here's a quick tutorial for anyone who wants to add the dailyspotpriceinto theirExcelspreadsheet. This was made using Excel2007 but should work for any version:

1. Click on cell and select Data -> From Web.

2. In the address bar, enter a url for a page that displays the current spot price and click Go.

3. Once the page loads in the window, click on the arrow that points to the table containing thespotprices then click Import.

4. The data now loads in yourExcelspreadsheet. To update, right click on the original cell and select refresh

Note - many sites use html5 to display the spot price which won't work so find a site that still displays the spot price in html format.

>>16995555
Dub-quads of truth.
Also, I keep being amazed at how people can make more and more abstract representing of that image, while still having it be easily recognizable.

>>16995742
Sweet! Thanks

>>16996355
Abstract merchant thread?

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No email no phone number just good old fashion username and password:
https://riot.im/app/#/room/#SilverGeneral:matrix.org

I've got my first 52.15 oz of silver coming in the next couple days. Sooner than expected, I'm excited.

>>16997643
I’m in

>>16998910
Congrats anon

>>16998910
>52.15 oz
>.15 oz
why???

>>16981936
>still under $20
Pathetic.

>>17000344
You are a beginner i presume?
1kilo is 32.15oz.
So i am guessing one kilo and 20ounces singles.

>>17000344
he probably got a kilo which is like 32.15 toz

>>17000529
Exactly correct fren

>>17000529
>>17000543
Ah, fair enough.
Stacking less than a year. Just don't see the need to remember oz-->kilo.

Are half dollars the perfect size for lining up and clinking together? I like to think so.

>>17000822
It's 1kg

>>17000980
That's not the only thing that's 1kg now.

>>17000591
I could have been nice and just told you but this is 4chan so i have to be a little bit of a dick.

>buy silver bullion that is not subject to reporting with cash at physical location
>sell silver bullion for big profit
>report that the bullion was bought at a higher spot than sold for
>tax free gains

It seems a little too simple...
Have about 5k I'm looking to put into PM and it seems very easy to avoid all taxes even if the PMs were sold for a huge profit 5 years down the road..

Where am I wrong about this? According to what I'm reading most places will not report a cash buy for silver unless it's over 10k

>>17000822
I'm thinking about buying a roll of cull ASE just so I can ping them together. Like stand on a stepladder and drop them from ceiling height just to hear that sound.

>>17001344

>>17000980
fucking drop bears mate, theyll give ya the clap