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Kotatsu edition

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>>16973515

>> No.16976703
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Everything will be fine. You're all being silly.

>> No.16976713

Has anyone non here actually made money in the stock market?

>> No.16976717

>>16976703
Why would everything be fine? When has everything ever been fine?

>> No.16976729
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>be me 19
>7.5k in CC debt
>college student with <$200 weekly income
>literally have no cash, living off credit

My refund should come in a few weeks and I need a call to gamble it on. Willing to take risk but nothing stupid. What contract do y’all recommend?

>> No.16976730

>>16976703
Ordered a respirator, stocked up on food, filling jugs of water
Might as well be safe :)
We needed to shut down international travel a week ago, and they haven't done it yet.
Hopefully this event will be the one that puts and end to globalism and unrestricted international travel

>>16976713
no

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>>16976729
I can’t live like this anymore!

>> No.16976740

>>16976713
gotta spend money to make money

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>>16976729
>>16976736

>What contract do y’all recommend?
take whatever job pays you the most, and pay back your debts

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>>16976713
Yep

>>16976717
Everything is fine most of the time.

>> No.16976745

>>16976729
Get a job.

>> No.16976749

>>16976743
How much? From what?

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>>16976713
Not too bad fren

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>>16976745
>>16976741
It’s normally not even this high.

While checking my pay app I noticed my w-2 just came And I’m kinda fucked because I was so eager to file my taxes before my w-2 came I used info from google(about the federal id number) and it was wrong lol. Guess I’m getting audited :)

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>>16976783
>I’m getting audited
The IRS will probably feel pity when they see the state of your financials. They'll take you out of your misery.

>> No.16976808

>>16976795
ahhh I meant to say "put you out of your misery"
words

>> No.16976827

Got my whole stuck on an Alibaba put, so I guess that is nice.

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>>16976751
>>16976713

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>retard
>cant into stocks

i wish i was dead

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>>16976844
Anyone can do it. Here are my losses for today :)

>> No.16976880

>>16976713
Ive made a couple thousand im just casual

>> No.16976891

>>16976844
you'll make it anon.. just don't give up

>> No.16976903

>>16976844
are you a girl?

>> No.16976906

>>16976903
i wish

>> No.16976990

Got most of my money in ETFs until now, thinking about setting up a meme portfolio and throw a couple hundreds equally to ONTX, SNSS, GALT and SAVA and see what might go up. still a bithesitant though, can you convince me to pull the trigger?

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>>16976795
nice image

>> No.16977215

>>16976713
of course, why the fuck would I be doing it if this wasn't the case?

>>16976749
fucking do your own research. Go """invest""" in crypto otherwise.

These are times of hardship, fellow anons. Until the bullshit virus tales blow over, market volatility will be the norm. For degenerate traders, I urge you to sell if you're in profit. For investors, hold on for a few weeks (months I hope not) and everything will come back into place. For people with cash on hand: do fucking invest on chinese pharms developing """cures""" for the virus or short airlines and tourism stonks. Some of us are gonna make it.

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>>16977077
that's an old image from a few months ago
back when China had the mandate of heaven

remember: a 'rona a day keeps the virus away

>> No.16977271

how do i go about dropshipping particulate respirators from alibaba

>> No.16977308

>>16976783
Look up the info on being audited. You have <5% chance even if you hit all their red flags at your income. Low reported income does cause greater scrutiny, as does high reported income.

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> someone betting 5M on recession by Feb
What does he mean by this?

>> No.16977333

>>16977318
it's free money

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This might be stupid question, but what happens when one company acquires the other? Does the acquired one stop trading? I'm looking at sprint (S), which has been acquired by T-Mobile

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>>16977401
https://smallbusiness.chron.com/happens-stock-company-bought-out-65780.html

>> No.16977518

Can I get a gz ? +50% up in my portfolio since summer 2018 !

>> No.16977559

I feel like the government of Hong Kong is now doing less to protect the city from the virus than back in the tine of SARS because of its political agenda

>> No.16977615

>>16977318
could be hedging

>> No.16977620

>>16977559
it is true
there was an english language stream of the press conference
they basically just said "we stopped flights from Wuhan but nowhere else, we recommend wearing masks but it isn't required lol" as far as I could tell.

I hope Japan shuts off flights from China and quarantines hard. If 'ronavirus hits Japan for real we'll probably never see One Piece or HxH get finished. :(

>> No.16977625

Sold all my chinese stonks because of Corona in hopes of rebuying the dip. Did I fuck up?

>> No.16977633

>>16977625
It will probably dip more

>> No.16977652

>>16977625
we're just getting started, in terms of panic levels

>> No.16977661

>>16977652
I AM the panic.

>> No.16977689

>>16977652
Inbefore monday news...

>Everything under control

>> No.16977705

>>16977625
I'm 100% on chinese stonks. I thought about this but chose not to. Fundamentals on all of my holdings are solid, unless there's a zombie apocalypse, they should get back in shape in a couple of weeks/months. Not selling. Time will tell if I was wrong or right.

>>16977652
this anon is, sadly, right. This kind of panic memes last for a while. If anything, have cash on hand to buy cheapies. The world is not going to end over this. I hope.

>> No.16977707

>>16977705
Averaging down on BABA as we speak.

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>>16977689
everything will be under control if we shut down our airports
but they don't want to do that because it will make people worry
so instead they'll try and take actions that make people not worry, which allows more early spread on this side of the pacific

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>>16977705
it won't
if the virus really was made by china in a bioweapons lab, you shouldn't be worried

go out and buy a chinese made insta-pot and see how quickly it falls apart
you seriously think that they'd be any better at engineering a virus?

>> No.16977789

>>16977739
the thing is, nature makes the virus, bioengineering can just make it stronger
and nature is pretty good at making things

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>>16977707
wise move. I have my eyes on BABA as well but I'm waiting it to hit 200. As any popular chinese stonk listed in the us markets, I feel it's a bit overbought right now, but fundamentals are extremely solid, it's a great buy.

>>16977739
If anything, the virus meme is engineered by western pharma companies. With help from the msm, they can have a hell of adversting campaign. Also, chinks can into great engineering, it all depends on how much money they get to manage. Keep in mind that the best electronics we have in hand are made in china, they just come from a factory that has enough money to not use starving slaves as workers and QC staff.

>> No.16977901

>>16977814
That’s quite a big dip you’re waiting for. You sure thats happening?

>> No.16977924

It’s just like the market to act like everything is fine and bull run Thursday with most turning green, just to domp eeet on Friday to add to the panic. Nobody wanted to hold over the weekend and come Monday martial law was declared world wide

>> No.16977950

>>16977814
>Keep in mind that the best electronics we have in hand are made in china, they just come from a factory that has enough money to not use starving slaves as workers and QC staff.
Chinese factories are merely assembling foreign produced semiconductors/flash memory/etc. together if that's what you mean There are more factories of those components in SE Asia than China.

>> No.16977980

On the bright side the skittish nobody’s who sold, most likely will disperse cash back into the market monday. The people going to make it have stocks worth pomping again or anything going to profit from the outbreak

>> No.16977984

>>16977901
absolutely not. I'm just hoping. With this levels of QE fueled bull market, it's probably not going to happen, but that's what I would aim for.

>>16977950
yes, absolutely. however, there are varying degrees of chink """engineering""" and it's very much influenced by how much money they get injected. There are literal gulags churning out cheap air conditioners and microwave ovens and there are factories assembling state of the art macbooks.

>> No.16978002

http://cablenews.i-cable.com/ci/videopage/news/16241
A Hong Kong reporter stayed behind in Wuhan interviewed some patients. Text transcription available and can be copy into Google Translate.

>> No.16978072

>>16977984
Yeah but USA was assembling state of the art Macs and MacBooks up until Tim decided he wasn’t lining Apples pockets enough, so he switched production to China. As to why Apple is so aligned to the trade war meme up and downs.

>> No.16978076

>>16977318
Short squeeze

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Best stocks to make profit from coronavirus?

>> No.16978086

>>16978082
UVXY calls and MMM

>> No.16978104

>>16976990
Do your dd first, so you won't perceive these as gambles. Also, why not just buy lci? At this point that is the least time consuming to become sure about.

>> No.16978117

https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4464711867581725
Beijing is also cutting off all inter city buses

>> No.16978124

>>16978117
I thought it was all inter-provincial travel
(but I'm reading through google translate)
https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/ch/component/k2/1504822-20200125.htm

>> No.16978128

>>16978082
Wasting your time here FBI. Go ahead and try to coordinate something. You’re going to have to shill for months and end up getting bogged, losing all your federal funds to a neet

>> No.16978129

can someone run me through the boeing meme? saw a few posts about it last thread

why did the stock price double within a year a few years ago? are airlines normally considered to be a defensive stock? also would an options play be something worthwhile on the lead up to their ER next week? i keep seeing negative sentiment around this company but still have no idea why apart from the corona meme

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>>16978128

>> No.16978138

>>16977984
So you’re not buying until it hits 200? I personally have 13k (about 15%) of my portfolio in baba. I think I’m holding

>> No.16978146

>>16978124
Beijing itself is a province-level city, so cutting off all inter-province travels effectively mean cutting all buses into and out of the city.

>> No.16978160

>>16978129
boeing was seen as an all-around Jewel. They were growing revenues and also margins (they were cheaping out on some things, which ends up being their downfall)
They are part of the consumer-travel duopoly with Airbus. Air travel has done well with reasonable gas prices and growing middle classes around the world.
Their other businesses included defense (nice, stable, large income) and they are also seen as a solid space play

have you really not read anything about the MAX thing?
I wouldn't suggest to gamble for or against Boeing right now. Just stay away and watch the carnage.

>>16978146
but people can still fly/drive/ride trains in and out?

>> No.16978175

>>16978160
>but people can still fly/drive/ride trains in and out?
Correct

>> No.16978186

>>16978138
do hold. the 200 target is for dream profits, if I had bought over 200 I'd still hold, baba is bound to go up. I wouldn't buy right now simply because I'd have to sell other stonks to do it, and the positions I'm holding are rather sweet (unless the chink virus wipes out humanity).

>> No.16978188

>>16978175
We'll have to wait and see if Beijing or Hong Kong is first to 1000 deaths (then 10,000, ...)
The race is on!
Do you have any possibility/desire to try and leave HK or are you going down with the ship?

>> No.16978234

This virus can live on objects. THERE’S NO STOPPING IT. Online shopping is going to be the death of mankind.

>> No.16978288

>>16978234
robot warehouses + drone deliveries
no human contact, no problem

>> No.16978316

>>16978288
I’m investing in the first company with news of this!

>> No.16978318

>>16978186
I dont think it will. Immunology and virology professors say it’s only dangerous for people with weak immune systems. The panic is irrational so any stock dips because of it should correct back up.

>> No.16978346

>>16978318
>>16978186
Oh and for right now only people with some chinese DNA have been confirmed infected. It’s not even certain it’s infectious for other races.

>> No.16978351

>>16978318
that's in a hospital setting
the issue here is the rate of infectious spread
once you have a few million people infected, it doesn't matter what the kill rate is in the hospital, because the hospital is overloaded. If you have all those people with high fever and respiratory problems, you start to have concerns like infrastructure shutting down and starvation.

the infection numbers are the important thing here, not the death rate. The numbers of infected are still exponentially growing.

>>16978346
that's just a /pol/ LARP. you should ignore that. Certainly all races of people are at the same risk.

>> No.16978364

>>16978351
I thought it was a LARP too. A legit professor in this field from my uni confirmed it though, I think it’s actually true

>> No.16978372

>>16978318
So don’t have to care about the actual danger of the virus but only have to worry how fast it spreads and about the scare of death numbers hurting our investments then. The more people this virus spreads to the higher probability weak are going to add to the death toll.

>> No.16978380

>>16978364
>A legit professor in this field from my uni confirmed it though
lol

Well, a guy that I discuss anime with on a Brazilian sock-fetishist mailing list knows the top biowarfare researcher in Reston and he told me it doesn't work like that

>> No.16978388

>>16978372
If you have some short term play on this, then go ahead. I just don’t think it will have a great long term effect on the market. Perhaps some weak people will be killed, but weak people wouldn’t have lived very long anyway.

>> No.16978398

>>16978380
I’m not claiming to know anything about it. I’m just saying that people that SHOULD know about this say it’s actually possible for a virus to be specifically dangerous for a certain race

>> No.16978401

>>16978351
There’s a 14 day incubation period, symptoms to start are normal and a non concern for this time of the year. Then, who can afford to stop working. Going to tough it out until it’s too late and are too sick to go in. By that time every object, since the virus can live on objects, and person is going to be affected. Infectious rate is sure to spike. This time of the year is when a lot of Chinese travel as well.

>> No.16978421

>>16978401
The infection rate is already parabolic. it can't grow any faster than it is growing right now. From a time a few weeks ago and into the future, the true number of infected can only be guessed based on identified cases and deaths. But certainly the number is very high.
It may already be too late to slow the spread outside of China, even if we stopped all flights now. But we aren't even stopping the flights, so the best thing to do is get prepared.

>> No.16978473

>>16978398
Unlikely. A virus being able to infect a plethora of animals, and chinks specifically? It doesn't work like that usually. If anything, the reverse could be true, for example caucasians having a gene that gives some enhanced immunity. But even this is unlikely

>> No.16978474

Virgin here. Thinking of buying. Which stocks should I be keeping my eye into because of corona? Pretty sure some will dip hard but will pull back up once this virus is under control.

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guys help me out please sirs, i'm looking to open a account but it can't be robinhood since im eu pajeet nigger. i was looking at schwab international but i need a minimum of 25k lol and please not DEGIRO that shit looks like a scam.

>> No.16978518

>>16978188
Well, at this stage it is stilln ot certain whether the measure is to contain it inside Beijing, or to keep it away from Beijing.
As for myself, I am not sure, as Hong Kong is already getting relatively few Chinese tourists from China especially those foreign provinces in recent months due to the protest, that moving to other nearby places might make it even more risky. But there are still hundred of thousand people travelling between Shenzhen and Hong Kong everyday.

>> No.16978519

>>16978421
I’m way behind on this and trying to learn all I can now. Next pandemic I’m not going to take so lightly. Knowledge is an important thing and if things get too much worse disinfo and even media blackouts will happen to avoid panic and disorder. Best to know what you can now just incase.
I’m going to start to prepare.

>> No.16978531

>>16978401
The 14 day period is observation period. The average incubation period is about 6-8 days. The observation period is twice the average length of incubation period just to be safe as some cases might develop symptoms later than average and could also be asymptotic initially.

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Whats the chance of QQQ hitting $240 by mid April? Asking for a friend.

>> No.16978539

>>16978474
>Pretty sure some will dip hard but will pull back up once this virus is under control.
Everything related to travel, especially those that focus in East Asia, hotel, airlines, casino, theme park, etc

>> No.16978554

China bans foreign travel starting from Jan 27
https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2020012500605

>> No.16978577

>>16978503
Interactive brokers.

>> No.16978587

what are the chances of penny stocks reaching 100 dollars

>> No.16978590

>>16978554
Only for group tour and "flight ticket + hotel" booking package according to the Chinese news site I read.

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>>16976713
Yeah but then I lost it the next day.

>> No.16978597

>>16978234
How the fuck did it only become widespread now if that was the case

>> No.16978600

Dang it, which Chinese stocks to buy next week? BABA maybe? They should further drop a few percent imo.
Tencent did not drop a lot yet but might. TSCM not affected yet. Luckin Coffee dropped a lot and will deteriorate further.

>> No.16978633

>>16978597
Possibilities:
* Mutated strain
* Cover up
* The one who said that misunderstood the evidences he was being presented and then come to a incorrect conclusion

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>>16976729
>falling for the college meme when you're poor

College is for the smart or the rich. You don't seem to be either. You will fit right in with the rest of us. Do you like ketchup?

>> No.16978644

>>16978600
TSMC isn't China

>> No.16978654

There will be 273,649 infections by 4th February according to epidemic predictions
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.23.20018549v1?fbclid=IwAR0J6C6AseU5q0ifQmrkRGr9A2Q1WpdTceCXqiaZsK9Dh2ehEK4nUTTEVyA

>> No.16978660

College is a meme, go to a trade school.

>> No.16978666

>>16978654
But the thing is, it predicted that many of those cases won't be detected, so they cannot influence the stock market

>> No.16978670

>>16978597
the outbreak only started ~6 weeks ago
the "living on objects" thing hasn't really come into play yet because of the population density in Wuhan. Even if the virus couldn't survive for long outside of the human body, it would still probably have the spread that we see now because the Chinese are pressed together in trains, offices, factories, and meatmarkets all day sneezing on each other.
The 'living on objects' parameter will come into play to extend the spread in places with lower population density.

>>16978654
already been 24 hours and the global R0 values have been revised downwards
but we still might see those numbers in China if things in Wuhan are as bad as the rumors say

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Why the F U C K is AMRN still ABOVE $20 per SHARE

>> No.16978688

>>16978644
Well depends on who you ask.

>> No.16978689

>>16976729
>>16976736

I have 5k in credit card debt. All on one card, with an APR of 22%. I pay roughly $100 a month in interest.

You fucking faggot listen to me, we are in a similar boat here faggot and I want to help you.

1. Transfer all balances to a zero interest account, use a credit union, they charged me $120 to transfer, closer to $150 for you.

2. Budget, simply find out what EXACTLY your expenses are

3. USE ALL OF YOUR REFUND TO PAY DOWN YOUR DEBT

4. Take every cent of your papa gubment gimmies you fucking worthless faggot and use it to pay your balance

5. Try your hardest here not to be a faggot, and go ahead and USE that refund TO PAY DOWN your debt.

SNSS to the moon, that is all you filthy casual faggot

>> No.16978723

>>16978689
>22%
just suck dick or steal or something. make that money
you can't hold a 22% debt, it's not right

>> No.16978755

>>16978681
Why wouldn't it? They have about 10 years of free reign with their drug. If anyone is making a better one, that will take 5 years to market from now or more.

>> No.16978775

>>16977620
Bill Gates likes to drink Corona, from what I hear

And he is a globalist

So expect Corona to be available globally

>> No.16978777

I think im gonna grab HUYA calls 3 months or so out on Monday.

>> No.16978812

>>16978082
STZ

>> No.16978814

>>16978689
>APR of 22%
Find a debt consolidation credit card my man
I pay 11%, tho i have about 9K in credit card debt

>> No.16978831

How the fuck do you morons get into credit card debt? Do you buy shit you know you can't afford?

>> No.16978845

>>16978831
I only got a credit card to build up credit history. Only has a $500 limit.

>> No.16978848

So what will you be buying on these dips? For me, I don't think the dips were that major to warrant some kind of shopping spree.

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Good gravy the doomy gloom in this thread. You're all so pessimistic.

>> No.16978855

>>16978831
this time was because i moved into my own place, i had enough to move + cover the new rent + deposit, but then i basically furnished the new apartment on a credit card.
I'm not worried about it, i've been a lot deeper than 9k, a big chunk of it i can blow away with a xmas bonus i still have coming

>> No.16978879

>>16978855

Should have just bought the furniture after the Christmas bonus. Or get a cheaper apartment you could afford. I'll never get the mentality of spending money you don't have yet.

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If you guys want to know about how bad the situation really is in China, check this out:
https://youtu.be/lk5XkhUKMDM

These guys lived in China over 10 years and the guy in a suit married a Chinese female doctor plus he trained doctors in English language/etiquette so he have a lot of friends who are doctors in China right now, meaning insider information.

Apparently people in China don't use soap and water very often. Not even in hospitals.

>> No.16978907

>>16978879
Eh, objectively you're right so i dont have any real argument
The way I see it though - 9000 dollars at 11% interest
I'll easily be able to pay that down in 6 months
If I steadily pay that down over 6 months, i'll only pay about $250 in interest

Is $250 too much to pay to live in comfort for 6 months? I don't think so
If I lost my job or something cutting off my income, I can also liquidate my holdings to blow away my credit card debt, so it's not like my net worth is in the red.

>> No.16978921

To all these people who think they have a 200 IQ buying stock they believe will grow during this so called epidemic and are selling everything else counting on an economic crash, I cannot wait for one morning when that stock suddenly plunges because it was all a big nothing burger and you all fell for the trap, while everything else recovers. I am going to laugh.

Might as well take this opportunity to say if there was a button to turn everyone else beside me in these threads into an anime girl, I would push that button in a heartbeat and make all you dumb greedy sluts into my harem.

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>>16978921
You know anon, you don't need to lash out at us just because you don't understand how the stock market works. Most people in these threads are pretty friendly and will help you get started if you ask nicely.

>> No.16978944

>>16978905
Why is it these other superpowers like Russia and China are third world tier?

>> No.16978961

>>16978905
>>16978921

Whenever stocks make a relatively big move its ALWAYS attributed by the masses to some red herring, usually whatever sensational headline is currently on top of the news cycle that very day. Whether its some "epidemic" (of the common cold?) or meaningless political posturing like developments in the trade wars, they have almost no real impact on stocks. The drop on Friday had absolutely nothing to do with the common cold in china.

>> No.16978965

>>16978351
/pol/ is always right

>> No.16978990

What are some good Chinese companies to snack up after my Yang profits?

I have Alibaba on my sights, Chinese airlines, Bili, JD and maybe Xiaomi.

>> No.16979009

>>16978921
Would make an interesting anime, I'd watch it.

>>16978961
So you also think it's a big nothing burger?

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>>16978961
i can't describe how low my opinion is of you after you refer to what's going on in china as "the common cold".

>> No.16979019

>>16979009
We've been teetering on price crash for a while. People and businesses have too much debt. It's been looking Rocky for a long time.

>> No.16979110

>>16978944
Cuz missiles aint cheap.

>> No.16979177

>>16979019
Debt doesn't matter brainlet

>> No.16979220

>>16978681
lol
stay mad

>> No.16979237
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16979237

Can someone explain irony to me?

>> No.16979329

>tfw literally chose yesterday as my first day to trade stocks
>the dip started less than half an hour after I went in

Is this a sign from the universe

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>>16978921
Fun!

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>>16979329
Same bro bro

>> No.16979481

>>16979237
Irony is like selling call options

>> No.16979482

>>16979329

You're not alone, most people start at the peak euphoria stage.

>> No.16979540

>>16979481
I don't know anything about investing, could you use a food anology?

>> No.16979544

I’m buying leveraged microsoft this week. Anyone else with me?

>> No.16979563

>>16976703
I know than a few people that have this attitude about literally everything in life.

As for myself, I'm a trained scientist. They're morons and they're not going to make it. I know where their cool shit is though and how to get in their apartments / houses. My plan is to snek over right after they die and grab their valuables before their dumb asses, who never got around to making a living will, have their assets remanded to the state.

>> No.16979575

>>16978905
Serpentza and laowhy86 are based and far ahead of tradmedia

>> No.16979679

Im 10% puts
20% short srocks

Am i gonna survive momday

>> No.16979686

What's the most effective strategy to make even small gains with a small amount or capital. Adding only 20 dollars a week to my portfolio, have about 40 right now.

>> No.16979707

>>16979563
I ve thought of killer flu since 2005

Everyone who knows about is scared hitless

Its the look at price history o f sars monkeys that dive me crazy

>> No.16979719

Galaxy brain CNBC helping retail traders with Coronavirus

Starts at 3:00
https://youtu.be/34ZsD7l3s7A?t=192

>> No.16979720

>>16976683
does anyone think nader is full of shit?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tesla-will-mark-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-this-bull-market-warns-ralph-nader-2020-01-23

or is tesla growing too fast?

>> No.16979733

>>16979720
I sold half my Tesla Friday

>> No.16979759
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16979759

So many good earnings next week

>> No.16979764

>>16979720
Nader is based af but he has no better idea than anyone else what the price of anything will be in five years. The quote in question is from this podcast, https://ralphnaderradiohour.com/the-self-driving-car-is-it-safe/ where 'auto safety expert Joan Claybrook' says,

>“The other thing that no one is even talking about is the fact that these vehicles cannot operate without major investments in new highways. Highways that have all the white lines completely in place, all the signage completely in place, so that the vehicle can read and see the signage and the white lines or yellow lines, whatever it may be. Without that, these vehicles are going to be willy-nilly. They’re not going to be able to do their job. Even if they worked terrific[ly], they couldn’t do it. No one’s even discussing the humongous cost, billions and billions and billions of dollars that are required to make it secure for these vehicles to drive.”
Joan Claybrook, auto safety expert on autonomous vehicles

Question is, are these technical limitations something that autonomous driving tech cannot overcome? tl;dr self-driving cars might not be a real thing until another 5-10 years.

>> No.16979767

>>16979733
proof

>> No.16979802

>>16979759
I am either going to blow my account up by the end of the week or make a nice profit on all the iron condors i'm writing.

>> No.16979812

>>16979767
sold at
$557.65

>> No.16979843

>>16976713
Yeah. Made a few thousand. Long term? I aim to make a shit load more and not spend much of my own money doing it. ONTX is the key. It flies, I end up with a fat green bag. Then cutting that bag of cash in half. Half into Funds for 23 years. The other half into my bank account. Which depending no how well ONTX does that bag may be nice and fat indeed to the tune of 100,000.000. IF, mighty big IF, ONTX should hit 20 a pop, well my debt days are over with and I'd still have over 100,000.000 left over with before I hit age 40. (37 now)

>> No.16979898

>>16979812
China part of the momentum is dead

>> No.16979936

>>16979843
This is just part of my financials. Still got a 401k and a pension. The 401k, by the time I can start withdrawing at age 60, will be hitting 200,000.000 or thereabouts. Depends on the market though. My pension will be decent as well. The only debt is the house so yeah all in all I'm doing ok.

>> No.16979964

I want to buy MSFT calls before earnings, but I have never bought calls before. I have three questions:
1.The higher the strike price, the lower the premium, right?
2. is there somewhere where you can see the premium price per strike price?
3. Is there a reason for me not to do this?

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16979976

Stupid question: what does it mean when a Form 4 is filed which shows an insider acquiring a bunch of shares with a price of $0? Are these new shares being issued as part of a previously approved compensation package?
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1183833/000120919120004874/xslF345X03/doc4.xml

>> No.16979979

>>16979964
Calls this week
Right before earnings
Kek

>> No.16979980

>>16976830
God I hope Schwab does a total overhaul of their layout when they officially absorb TD. I had picked TD to use but literally a week later they got bought out and it didn't feel right to jump onto what felt like a sinking ship
Already sick of looking at this old ass Schwab layout and its retarded methodology telling me my best market performance day was the day I transferred a bunch of money in

>> No.16979983

>>16977620
Its already 8n japan

>> No.16979985

>>16979964
Yes, there is a reason not to buy calls before earnings.
IV is high leading up to and right before earnings. This makes calls more expensive to buy. IV almost always drops after earnings, so if the stock doesn't go in the direction you want, you're hit with a double whammy of IV crush and stock price, which will hurt a lot. If the stock does go your way, you're still hit by IV crush, so you won't make as much, unless your call is now in the money.

>> No.16979986

>>16979983
Thailand is fucked

>> No.16980006

50 confirmed
Beijing

So 300+

>> No.16980049
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https://twitter.com/jxxf/status/1219009308438024200
kek

>> No.16980089

>>16979985
So if one were to expect the earnings to be good, you’re better off buying a leveraged tracker?

>> No.16980098

>>16980089
If you think earnings will be good, sell a put. If you don't have the capital to cover that put, sell a put credit spread.

>> No.16980127

>>16979979
Huh?

>> No.16980142

>>16980127
Watch futures fri

>> No.16980163

>>16979964
>1.The higher the strike price, the lower the premium, right?
Usually, unless absolute fucking degenerates are buying (see, TSLA 420 cost more than TSLA 410 for a while).
> 2. is there somewhere where you can see the premium price per strike price?
There is a spread, but no specific set premium. This can also vary slightly by platform. For example a retail yolo trader might be willing to pay one amount, a retail trader using BSM model might be willing to pay another, and a desk at a prop firm might be using jump diffusion + more secret sauce to model price and be willing to pay another. For popular options (let's say SPX) there is "a price" because the spread is small, but for some low volume equities there can be quite a large spread so premium is kind-of a poorly defined number in this space.
You can check the greeks for things like the current expected movement and time decay though if that's what you meant. Maybe I'm interpreting the question wrong.

>> No.16980166

>>16979759
>AMD
Hmmm....
The earnings will look good and the stock went down already. Is monday better day to buy or tuesday?

>> No.16980176

>>16980049
TLDR give me a summary

>>16979759
Christ those companies mke up a huge part of the S&P. If Apple and Microsoft don’t present flawless earnings, or Amazon or Facebook blow it... or if any of these have bad guidance...

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>"Downside of TSLA is $0"

>> No.16980193

>>16977620
HxH and Berserk are never going to end

This is the sad truth

>> No.16980244

>>16980163
Thanks anon

>> No.16980262

>>16980163
you would think robotraders would stamp out the inefficiency of stuff like TSLA 420 costing more than TSLA 410 calls

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>>16980193
Berserk is the best story of all time and original 13 episodes after that not worth
I dont know about the manga but anime series got weird and bad style.. The old berserk just blows the fuck out of every fantasy series so good story telling ;=)

>> No.16980300

>>16980262
No, because 420 would make more money. It was probably robots who bought out 420, not degenerates.

>> No.16980314

>>16980272
I liked the most recent series. The animation took me a while to get used to, but otherwise it was pretty true to the manga and fun

>> No.16980335

>>16979759
Better to own AMD directly or gamble with SOXL?

>> No.16980341

>>16977318
Should I be gambling on UVXY now?

>> No.16980385

List of materials donated by various Chinese companies and entities to Wuhan:
MoF 1 Billion CNY
Tencent: 300 Million
Kuaishou: 100 Million
Alibaba: 71.4 Million
Douyu: 10 Million
Meizu: 300 Thousand
Midea: Some Air Conditioners
Xiaomi: 300 Thousand CNY worth materials
JD: 1 million masks, 60 thousand medicines, and other materials
Lenovo: "Large amount of" computers and IT devices
Netease: Free winter holiday homework for primary school students in Wuhan
Freshhema: "Large amount of" food and materials
National Radio and TV Administration: Copyright of ten TV drama donated to Wuhan TV station
HiSense TV: Customers in Wuhan can watch VIP content for free
Tujia: Free residence for medical staffs

>> No.16980411

>>16977620
>it is true
>there was an english language stream of the press conference
>they basically just said "we stopped flights from Wuhan but nowhere else, we recommend wearing masks but it isn't required lol" as far as I could tell.
IIRC they are only recommending those who are sick, when asymptotic transmission have already been discovered
>I hope Japan shuts off flights from China and quarantines hard.
No sign of them doing this for now.
>If 'ronavirus hits Japan for real we'll probably never see One Piece or HxH get finished. :(
>ryonavirus

>> No.16980433

>>16980300
how would you make more money with a 420 call than a 410 call

>> No.16980451

Baozun is getting absolutely destroyed... I wonder what that's about.

>>16977814
>>16977707
I want in on baba too... but I don't want to be HODLing right now. Sold a lot of my Japanese ETF on friday. This should be quite disruptive for the next month or so.

>>16980385
"donated"
the government can order these companies around though so "donations" sounds too generous

>ryonavirus
heh heh

>> No.16980459

Having coronavirus must kill your social credit score

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>>16978681

>> No.16980505

>>16980451
>the government can order these companies around though so "donations" sounds too generous
The government can order companies to do so but they will never need to nake such order, because those companies know what will happen to them if they don't

>> No.16980516

>>16976713
Yes. You ask that like it's impossible to believe. Sounds like you're on the fence and a bit reluctant to take the plunge. Is there anything that I or other anons can do to clear things up?

>> No.16980527

>>16979980
TD has superior software and user friendliness. thinkorswim is absolutely based.

>> No.16980550

>>16979329
You'll be thankful that things are going the way they are going later down the road. Getting rekt early on is a good teacher. It's like being forged by fire, so to speak.

>> No.16980555

>>16979759
God Sprint is so cheap, whats the consensus here on this stock?

>> No.16980582

>>16979759
>3M
Hope they have enough production capacity to cater the global demand on their protective gear in the upcoming months

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>>16980459
have a (you) good sir

>> No.16980596

YOU

I WANNA TAKE YOU TO A TRADE WAR

>> No.16980604

>>16980596
Gay bar?

>> No.16980646

>>16978689
Just fucking refinance holy shit

>> No.16980670

Remember friends, a tax refund is simply an interest free loan you gave the government

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>>16979759
Next week is going to be fun
>shit tons of earning calls
>wuhan virus is going to hit critical mass
>trump impeachment

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>>16979759

>> No.16980818

>>16980176
Something about powers of 2 -1 and the end of the world.

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>>16980785
wrong image...

anyway hope microsoft takes a dip on monday, but i dont think so

>> No.16981058

Reminder that taxation to the federal government is theft.

>> No.16981073

Reminder:

TSLA will reach a trillion dollar market-cap within ten years and anyone trying to bet against it is an idiot.

Screen cap this.

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>>16981073
hope Elon can resist the urge to work in China while the epidemic is underway

>> No.16981205

>>16981073
It will as long as the gov uses our tax dollars to fund their operations.

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>>16976713

>>16976830
aw yeee boi

>> No.16981247

>>16979843
>>16979936
Imagine leveraging a good amount of your financial future on a biomeme that has consistently shit the bed.

How many shekels you got in ONTX friend? I'd like to know how much better to feel about myself.

>> No.16981266

>>16981073
Until then, when are we getting a correction so I can buy in?

>>16981247
Does ontx have history of failure?

>> No.16981274

>>16981173
>hope Elon can resist the urge to work in China while the epidemic is underway
I'm sure he will avoid the area, it's rare that he goes to China anyway. For a while I was tracking his private jet in order to see if I could get information on where Gigafactory 4 would be. I knew it was likely going to be in Germany days before almost anyone else did and the announcement.
>>16981205
>It will as long as the gov uses our tax dollars to fund their operations.
Every loan Tesla and SpaceX has taken out from the American Government has been paid off in full and with interest. Tax credits for electric vehicles are not exclusive to Tesla, in fact in some areas Tesla vehicles are the only electric car that doesn't qualify because they sold more than the tax credit limit.

Why is this such a common myth that is spread around? Where were you when GM and Ford took billions in bailout money? They've been subsidized for ages now, yet no one cares.

>> No.16981306

>>16981266
>Until then, when are we getting a correction so I can buy in?
You may get lucky after earnings are released on the 29th, if they're lower than expected, but the opposite is being predicted. If that doesn't happent, it's anyone's guess when a correction will happen. You could buy in over a period of months, but if it's a long term investment, I wouldn't worry to much about the price. It's cheap enough if you're holding for a few years.

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>>16981173
>>16981073
He will never be the happy Elon he used to be.

He can’t just paradrop into pandemics now, he’s got responsibilities AND rekt his favorite onahole.

>>16981274
>triggered this easily

The big banks paid back their loans plus interest after the financial crisis, and the US govt actually made money off of it contrary to popular belief. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t care and it should be disregarded.

Electric vehicles are being subsidized by the govts of us and China and others, and that is worth taking note of.

>> No.16981372

>>16981307
>Electric vehicles are being subsidized by the govts of us and China and others, and that is worth taking note of.
Nearly everything is fucking subsidized in both countries, including ICE vehicles and the oil/gas industry, which by the way kills millions of people each year globally through their emissions and it is a huge burden on public healthcare programs which you have to pay for.

Tesla doesn't need any government money, if they take it is because they would be stupid not to. Recent surveys indicate that "roughly 9% of U.S. households — about 10 million are very likely or extremely likely to purchase a Tesla as their next car" and the average selling price of just a Model 3 is $50,000, so a few thousand in a tax credits are nothing. Demand is high. Their margins are higher than the industry average, going as high as 35% in China which is practically unheard of.

>> No.16981384

>>16979237
it's like coppery or brassy but made from iron

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You bought SNSS, right anon?

>> No.16981394

Retarded here

There are outright probabilistic guesses

what we are seeing over the next week:
The graph of exposure/infections internationally is at a low point. Any infected people might not show up yet as onset approaches. At some point this graph should incline considerably and cases expand exponentially. Regardless of containment or not.

This makes me think the international high-china travel countries will suddenly face a spike in cases in the near future as 2nd gen hits.

China is absolutely fucked and will face lots of increasing challenges over the next weeks/months.

I think overall USA market sentiment will be increasingly volatile between earnings, doubters, and panic setting in. Unpredictability will very high and increasing all week. Who knows when max fear hits.

The two big forces in the market are going to be good earnings and virus pandemic. You can not rely on any historical pandemics for this one. This one has enormous downside potential.

Things to look out for:
Second-gen international cases growing exponentially after a pause
Containment efforts FUD from China: Everything is fine! Crackdown on information
Disappointing earnings: If this happens jesus fuck

The downside of this virus is worse than the market seems to understand. Controlling this Virus worldwide might be impossible.

Weird black swans: Maybe government/agencies have a cure, maybe gov / agencies have a innocuous variant of coronovirus that they release to protect societies, aka releasing one very similar that doesn't have as serioes effects to create immunity. They could not do this except via black ops. Real possibility considering bio weapons research.

>> No.16981396

Is it time to invest in uhhhhhh The Vitamin Shoppe?

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>>16981307
who's the final fantasy character in your image? i haven't played them all

>> No.16981449

>>16981391
Yeah, but I need another 85 to make it an even 1000. You got shares to spare, right brother?

>> No.16981462

>>16981394
Protip: nothing ever happens

>> No.16981470

Also
>ebola
>hiv

If you designed a killer pandemic virus, nCoV is close to perfect. Small % kill rate, high spread.

Spread >>>>>>>>>> Kill rate

>> No.16981498

>>16981462
nCoV is the biggest black swan ever

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>>16981470
Does the corona virus have a good anime character?

>> No.16981520

>>16981394
yes, next week volatility will be insane, regardless of whether or not the coronavirus is truly a happening.
also,
>tfw started taking taleb's advice like a week ago
just in time lads

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>>16981506
several
>>16981520
What's taleb's advice? His books looked a little too memey for me.

>> No.16981539

>>16981520
I was 30% calls, 70% long until a week ago. feels good to pull back from making dosh actually. Hopefully I don't blow up the account.

>> No.16981544

>>16981498
Be amazed when nothing happens then

>> No.16981553

>>16981544
That's a definite possibility.

>> No.16981596

>>16981538
>What's taleb's advice
barbell strategy, which basically means never looking at medium risk investments, only do safe investments with low payoff and very risky investments with high payoffs, nothing in the middle.
The idea is to take advantage of the very broad general trends(e.g: the economy tends to grow over a very long time), as well as the highly random events (like a deadly outbreak of mystery bat soup disease).
>>16981539
Yeah, it's a damn good thing I got a cold, got paranoid and looked into the situation lmao, this shit seems likely to hit the fan

>> No.16981601

>7 cases on moscow
bye

>> No.16981611

>>16981538
guess the only common theme is the traditional chinese dress but even that varies a bit in style. wonder if artists will settle on an appearance this time like they magically did with ebola-chan

>> No.16981623

>>16981601
every international case is equivalent to extrapolated number of Chinese cases, so 7 cases in X country means an enormous multiple more in China un-reported vs official.

>> No.16981639
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>>16981611
bat wings usually present also hair buns

>> No.16981656

I would think now is a good time to buy long calls, right?

>> No.16981657
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>>16981611
my vote goes to this one

>> No.16981668

>>16981656
not sure, maybe OTM long time horizona calls if you reduce implicit exposure?

I don't have enough experience to know the best plays

>> No.16981674

>>16981656
long term maybe, even SARS had a short term impact on market sentiment

>> No.16981693

>>16981668
I do things super sloppy, but I rebalanced into OTM longer time horizon calls, reduced implicit value, and then went more into asia short/puts

>> No.16981710

>>16976703
I hope not. Genuinely enjoy it when times are hard, I don't care if the value of my holdings plummet but there's just something soothing about seeing everyone panic. I really don't know what it is.

>> No.16981764

>>16981445
The artist formerly known as Grimes AKA Mrs. Musk

>> No.16981771

Taleb is a pretty cool guy but if you follow his barbell strategy to the letter, you could go a whole decade with consistent and small losses.
Being 90% low risk doesn't mean index funds, it means T-bills and CDs

>> No.16981790

>>16981601
It's mostly Ill people and elderly that have died, anon. This is just one huge over reaction.

It would be best if everyone just lived their lives instead of trying to fight a losing battle. It's gonna spread everywhere and it's not going to be that big of a deal except for the elderly and people who are already Ill, which could actually benefit society if you think about it.

>> No.16981883

Ok, so over 50mil people under lockdown so far in china. There is no way their economy won't collapse in the coming months is it?

>> No.16981915

>>16981790
>this

Research SOXL

The future is oil, semiconductors, and insectoid corporate meta

We B V L L nao

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>>16981247
>>16981266
Uh I dunno about any "failures" This here looks like all winning stuff myself. But it takes time to bear fruit. Once they release the Phase 3 results this will be on the map, everyone will take notice of the company and the stock will fly. Then if they get through the FDA hoops it'll fly some more. If a larger Pharma decides to buy them later, well I don't gotta worry about nothing for a long long time.

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>>16981915
Should I invest in companies that sell bugs for people to eat? It's stupid as shit but I feel like eventually it will become a big thing just like beyond burgers.

>> No.16981997

>>16981984
You should invest in things that add value to things that already exist

>> No.16982000

Beijing confirms three doctors infected with new coronavirus
January 26, 2020 02:55
13

Ebara Title: Beijing Confirms Three Doctors Infected with New Coronavirus

According to the Beijing Municipal Health and Health Committee, the three doctors include: 1. Wang Moumou, male, went to Wuhan on January 8 for a business trip, returned to Beijing on the 16th, developed fever and respiratory symptoms on the same day, and went to a medical institution in the city on the 20th. A pneumonia case was confirmed on the 21st with a new coronavirus infection. 2. Lu Mou, male, went to Wuhan on January 10 for a business trip, returned to Beijing on the 11th, and developed fever symptoms on the 14th. He was treated in a medical institution in the city on the 20th. A case of pneumonia confirmed by a new coronavirus; 3. Yan, male, traveled to Dalian, Jilin Baishan, Changchun and other places from January 3rd to 10th. When attending the meeting on the 14th, he was next to a certain patient named Lu Mou On the 18th, fever symptoms appeared. On the 20th, he was seen at a medical institution in the city. On the 25th, he was diagnosed with a new coronavirus-infected pneumonia case. At present, the three doctors are receiving isolation treatment at designated hospitals, and their condition is stable. Those who have been in close contact have been included in the isolation medical observation. No abnormalities have been reported. (Main reporter: Bai Jiege)

>> No.16982067
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Thailand up from 4 to 7

>> No.16982080

>be into games and stuff
>check into that one native gamedev company
>the stocks seem to constantly rising, pretty sure it will rise long-term
>no stock trading account, tho
>wanna take a day off, drive to bank office and learn and make the account
>be an idiot, tell parents about it
>"YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR MONEY, DON'T DO IT"
>"o-ok"
>forget about whole deal because got expenses anyway and other bullshit excuses
>about over year later, remember about it and check the stock market
>the value doubled
I'm mad at my parents for being idiots and I hate myself for being a bitch

Sorry, had to vent.
I'm getting that account as soon as possible.

>> No.16982089

>>16981771
>T-bills and CDs

Basically a savings account

>> No.16982110

BANGKOK: Thailand has seven confirmed cases of Wuhan virus, but its busiest airport on Saturday (Jan 25) said it was awaiting more information from Chinese authorities before deciding whether to expand screening of passengers arriving from China to try to detect the new coronavirus.

"We will perform a virus scan if the Chinese government announces to watch out for other cities apart from Wuhan and Guangzhou," the General Manager of Suvarnabhumi Airport, Suthirawat Suwannawat, told reporters.

China is Thailand's biggest source of tourists and had nearly 11 million visitors from there last year.

As concern grows in Thailand over the possibility of a bigger outbreak, some social media users have accused the government of caring more about the money from Chinese tourists arriving during the Chinese New Year holiday than public health.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.16982134

>>16982110
>fake news

Thailand has a young demographic profile

Relax, the hookers won’t die from this SARScoronavirus

Only elderly used up Chinaman labor that the CCP is dumping in mass graves ;_; RIP

>> No.16982156

>>16982080
Join the bear side, brother. Its happening, you can be a part of it and, most importantly, earn some money.

>> No.16982190

>>16982080
Happened to me, too. There are always profits to be made, though.

>> No.16982193

>>16982156
>Join the bear side,
You mean the dip? Dunno if my account would allow international trading, I need to look stuff up.

>> No.16982210

>>16982190
Yeah, but the doubled value means half the shares I can buy, at least in my case, because some expenses pop up and I end up with similar amount of money as earlier.
I need to start controlling my finances more.

>> No.16982213

kek, those who bought in NVAX when it was $4 a share would be sitting good now. (8.35 now). the lesson to take away from this is just cause a stock ain't moving now don't mean it won't suddenly jump the next day on news. Like ONTX for example. Once the good news hits. up it goes.

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>> No.16982236

>>16982223
Yikes

NGMI, bro

>> No.16982237

>>16981984
Do you think most westerners will start eating insects during the lifetime? Do you think it will be mandated or that the cost of meat will be so high that they're forced to eat bugs and that the meat alternatives will not be a good enough replacement?

You can make money with stocks in almost any areas, but personally I stay away from products that people begrudgingly buy because demand is never that good and consumers are fast to switch to something else. Especially in areas related to environmental concerns, there seems to be a lot of predictions about what items will be forced to use but little actual change.

>> No.16982240

EAT THE BUGS, BIGOT.

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>>16982240
I WILL NOT EAT THE BUGS
I WILL NOT LIVE IN THE POD

>> No.16982267

>>16982210
Well, I was counting only cash at hand, bank account looks better. I got like 3 or 4 of my monthly wage in total. I'm pretty sure I could spread half of it among various stocks I would be confident with.
But I wonder - how hard is it to actually sell the shares? I know that during the fall there is a slim chance to sell that stuff, but what when the situation is somewhat stable?

>> No.16982269

>>16982237
Massive, cig-grade level of taxation on beef in major metropolitan zones

>> No.16982275

>>16976713
I have reinvested everything I earnt so far. Been buying bluechip divided payers. Investing small amounts since I was 18. So far have put in ~$90K, currently worth ~ $130k.
Slow and steady growth.

>> No.16982282

Is SPCE a bad play?

>> No.16982284

>>16982237
Shit, speaking of the Malthusian food problem coming in 2040 what long-term plays are good? I've been considering agri like BG, ADM, and MOS for a substantial portion of my portfolio. People will keep fucking and we only got so much farmland so I see revenues increasing like crazy YoY.

To the inevitable retard: no we won't be growing food for 9B in fucking solar powered skyscrapers.

>> No.16982287

>>16982275
You may like NOBL.

>> No.16982297

>>16982284
>People will keep fucking
Yeah, but when post-birth terminus is legal, will it matter?

>> No.16982306

What's wrong with OGI?
Should I just dump it all?

>> No.16982311

>>16982282
It's waaaaay overbought right now, even after Friday's drop.

>> No.16982326

>>16982297
Short answer, laughably no for the same reason Africans are using all those condoms.

>> No.16982362

Hmm, wonder how long till some company creates a pill that will "kill" your sperm. No more having to use a condom. No more having to go under the knife. Seems like the perfect solution.

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>>16982284
It seems that the only continent with growing population in a few decades will be Africa and population growth may no longer be exponential. It will be interesting to see if the rest of the world can pick of the slack. Yields of staple crops have been growing rapidly with genetically engineered food and productivity may be beyond what Thomas Malthus predicted, but I've done little research on the subject.
>No we won't be growing food for 9B in fucking solar powered skyscrapers.
What do you think about lab grown meat? I think it's looking promising as the price it rapidly falls, if you can believe these companies. I don't think consumers really care where their meat comes from but if the price gets competitive, a switch will begin and economies of scale will keep working in the favor of lab grown meat. It seems like it will open up land for farming other things because animal agriculture is such a large land use.

>> No.16982405

>>16982362
>chemical castrations
Not my specialty

>> No.16982448

>>16982362
They're testing male birth control. You can get $4000 if you sign up for their study where they inject shit into your shoulder every day and hopefully your balls don't fall off.

https://www.wilx.com/content/news/University-of-Kansas-seeking-couples-for-male-birth-control-clinical-trial-567010471.html

>> No.16982456

>>16982448
>To take part in the trial, you must be in a serious relationship with someone you have dated for one year
Never mind. We're out consideration...

>> No.16982457

>>16982402
>It seems that the only continent with growing population in a few decades will be Africa
Urban populations usually go sub populations replacement level of 2.1 per 15-45 age fems
The remaining agricultural areas input replacement population

See: Florence, 800-1400 A.D.

>> No.16982471

>>16982456
LCIguy has someone he mentioned, he could use that 4 grand on even more LCI, which is super cheap compared to its worth.

LCI to $60

>> No.16982515

Canada confirmed gridaidsebola case

>> No.16982519

>>16982080
What country? Which gamedev? Why do you need to go to some bank office to open an an account?

>> No.16982529

>>16982519
Poland CdprojektRed

>> No.16982542

>>16982529
I bet they pitched the series to netflix as "The New Game of Thrones"

>> No.16982560

>>16982529
lol how did I know that's who you'd say?

>> No.16982573

less than 24 hours till futures open

>> No.16982658

>>16982529
Alright.
Tell me you're just smart and made a good shot because you just hit a bullseye.
You're actually spooking me right now.

>> No.16982690

>Brake dust air pollution may have same harmful effects on immune cells as diesel exhaust
https://phys.org/news/2020-01-air-pollution-effects-immune-cells.html
>'London throat': Toxic brake dust could cause condition, scientists say
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-51049326

>New air pollution boogieman
This news is two weeks old but it's yet another nail in the coffin of ICE vehicles. Since electric vehicles use regenerative breaking they have a fraction of the amount of brake pad wear. Does anyone here actually own conventional automaker stocks?

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>>16981639
>>16981657
here's a nomination

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>>16982573
Futures will open and they will be plus or minus 0.2 and you will say, "oh. huh.". It will be very exciting.

>> No.16982722

>>16982707
I would prefer the buns to be normal-looking.

>> No.16982736

>>16982707
Has the media said anything about her? I recall some were pissed about ebola-chan.

>> No.16982746

>>16976683
someone red pill me on palladium. is it really the rarest metal?

>> No.16982786

>>16982402
I think lab grown meat will grow a marginal amount then plateau in the west but be popular in asia and africa.

>> No.16982792

>>16982707

>39 Recoveries
>42 Deaths
>Just as deadly to healthy young people as the old and infirm

I'm gonna be real pissed if I die of fucking pneumonia now that i've finally got somewhere in life

>> No.16982815

>>16982402
And yes, yields will increase with diminishing returns but based on literal arable farmland we are fuck regardless. Thats assuming perfect distribution and no loss and 100% vegetarian population. Carrying capacity is 9-10B and even with another norman borlaugh we are putting a bandaid on a bullethole.

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>>16982792
if 42 deaths is china's official number the real number is probably at least 420

>> No.16982831

>>16982792
Anyone know where I can buy a home oxygenator to breathe for me until my body kill the virus and lungs can recover?

>> No.16982850
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>>16982716
Futures traders like to overreact though... I could see it being deep red that works it’s way back to flat by Monday.

>>16982690
This isn’t news... you had never heard that brake dust is carcinogenic and linked to diseases?

Hybrids use regenerative braking too, I don’t see either as a real solution to this problem. I think you’re a bit obsessed.

>>16982247
>not exploiting free ecdysteroid gains
Lmao stay basic

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Tesla earnings?

>> No.16982887
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BASED

>> No.16982917

>>16982887
just say ur gay problem solved lmao

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>>16982887
this is just a PR stunt after the overreaction to the Apple Card thing

>> No.16982926

Ok but to me this seems like a no brainer. Human population expanding like crazy. Available livable land shrinking every day. Farmland for growing food is shrinking. Global warming/climate shifting is happening now. Long term outlook - this planet is fucked. The only good bits is that by the time it gets to the really bad part our generation will be dead and gone. I mean hell this is the 3rd straight winter where uh there's been no actual "winter". Hell it was damn near 60 something on Christmas

>> No.16982939

HoW dO i ShOrT wAtEr

>> No.16982947

>>16982926
>Ok but to me this seems like a no brainer.
I thought the rest of your post would go like
>Once ONTX moons it will be a fat green bag, all I need is it to hit even $5 and I'll have a 100k profit etc

>> No.16982970

>>16982926
Ok Al gore calm down.

>> No.16982980

>>16982926
Human population will probably cap out at 10 billion. We can easily grow enough food to feed more than that. Only the cities are getting overcrowded, the countrysides are emptying. We already hit peak carbon emissions ages ago, electric cars, advanced nuclear and renewables will make the planet in general a better place to live in. Fusion might not be a meme for much longer too.

>> No.16982983

Yeah let's make predictions for things that could potentially happen 50 to 200 years in the future.
Meanwhile someone back in '99 called the tech bubble just a year before it happened and lost hundreds of millions.

>> No.16982996

>>16978535
bout 80%. If a recession doesn’t come

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>>16982983
>Someone called a bubble before it happened
You mean before it burst?

Every year people call for the collapse of this or that, ESPECIALLY the stock market. And when it eventually happens, they look like geniuses because of the one time they were right, rather than the hundreds of times they were wrong.

>> No.16983010

>>16982983
UBI replaces pensions/social security. Investment in stocks is heavily taxed or outright banned. Bonds disappear. Countries must pay a global tax to the UN based on developmental status.

>> No.16983043

I FORGOT TO SHORT INDIA

>Coronavirus scare in India: Nearly 100 people under observation, PMO reviews preparedness
>Health ministry officials briefed principal secretary to the Prime Minister on the preparedness of hospitals, laboratories as well as on measures being taken for the capacity building of rapid response teams to deal with possible cases of coronavirus in India.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/coronavirus-india-kerala-maharashtra-health-ministry-pmo-china-ncov-1640198-2020-01-26

>> No.16983066

>>16982850
This is absolutely is news and you really don't know what you are talking about. We've known for years that brake dust was carcinogenic, that's completely different than proving that it's not only a particulate more common than diesel fumes, but actively reducing the ability for your immune system to fight infections.
>I don’t see either as a real solution to this problem
It's a ten fold reduction in the amount of dust, that's a solution. When driven by autopilot, the hydraulic brakes are not used at all.
> I think you’re a bit obsessed.
What am I obsessed about? You keep coming here to be a contrarian and post stupid irrelevant anime images. I know you're still seething from the other night, but you're not forced to reply to me. Stay mad.

>> No.16983089

>>16983010
I agree on the first point. The other two are absolutely retarded and won't happen.

>> No.16983106

>>16982869
They'll come on the 29th. Higher than predicted and we're at least going to $600. Some of this is already priced in.

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How rekt am I about to be?

>> No.16983127

How bad will the stock market be if Bernie wins this election?

>> No.16983138

>>16983127
Boomer dems with money will swing to Trump.
Trumpers will still vote Trump.
The math doesn't really add up to Bernie winning.

>> No.16983140

>>16983127
We have a higher chance of another civil war happening in the USA, than Bernie winning....

>It ain’t happening cheif

>> No.16983154

Oh I've no doubt of the rise of ONTX. Just gotta be patient and wait. I do have other positions in addition to ONTX.

T
CMCSA
SWPPX
SWTSX
SWISX
GE
AMRN (re-entered on friday)
KDP
KHC
DIS

AMRN was $3 before it's news broke. It hit 12 not long after.

>> No.16983167

>>16983112
We'll see. Even if earnings are as expected, it may cause a pullback if the rest of the market keeps tanking, but I don't see it reaching $486 without other negative news. I would consider getting out of that but I'm a long standing TSLA BVLL

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>>16983066
You seem to have me confused with someone else again.

You are definitely obsessed with Tesla, but congrats on your gains. The company does have a good story for the long term.

The anime picture is fitness related, because of the ecdysteroid content of insects.

You are a fuckin weirdo. Welcome to smg! you’ll fit right in.

>> No.16983183

>>16982926
Personally my view on this is that earth is undergoing another change that is far out of our control, we have slowly been progressing in the change since the last time it happened and there's probably gonna be hundreds if not thousands of years before we see any "major" developments in terms of the climate actually changing in some sort of way. It's just a natural cycle that we don't understand yet. The matter of the fact is this though.. we humans can't do anything about it, we here today won't experience anything that we haven't seen so far in our lifetime and not even our kids or grandkids will see anything major happen here on earth (in terms of climate change). So get rich and enjoy your life.
Oh and also, the fact that people have completely forgotten about the concept of time is just typical. 500 years, 1000 years or even 10000 years is NOTHING in the larger picture of things... the chance of anything major happening during our tiny lifetime here on earth is close to 0. The fact that people believe that we humans have changed so much in 260 years that we have effectively modified earth's climate is just retarded

>> No.16983252

>>16983089
I really think that stock market speculation will be targeted more by those upset over income inequality. Imagine being taxed on your total networth each year, kind of like what inflation already does. Or a tax of 70% of profits. Personally I don't think this would solve it, but the amount of people not invested in stocks at all is large and vocal about income inequality.

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Is there any public stock of a company specifically working in the coronavirus cure?

>> No.16983319

>>16983252
It's not happening. Investors profiting off the stock market would decrease the amount of tax revenue that the government would need to collect for UBI and obviously increase revenue through capital gains. They couldn't do away with it when they already barely afford UBI as it is, the average amount of money they hand out alone is not enough to keep the economy afloat.

Ideally, all governments would have their own wealth funds like the Norway does which has over a trillion dollars in assets, but that would require them to tighten their belt and stop fucking around. Then they could have high UBI payments without needing to collect the tax revenue.

>> No.16983325

Suppose Bernie or Biden did become president. Ok, all the stress and shit would cause a massive heart attack in no time. Then whoever was vice president would then be president. Its' been a long time since this has happened. (president kicking the bucket due to illness).

>> No.16983356

>>16980335
Honestly, Xilinix and Lam Research are incredibly underrated stonks so SOXL isn't a bad idea really

>> No.16983358

>>16983127
No joke, probably down 10% the first few days. There's literally NO reason for the markets to do good under Bernie, none. He will "crush" wall street, he will tax the shit out of billionaires and make sure it's impossible to even become a billionaire (and people with a decent brain knows billionaires keeps their wealth in assets and not in their bank accounts) which means they will most likely liquidate their assets to save ass, banks will do horribly, consumers overall will have much less cash to actually CONSUME, etc etc etc. I mean, his policy's alone is literally a 10-point plan on how to destroy a country like america.
BUT, it's not like democrats (other than the far-left democrats) or republicans will pass his close to retarded ideas in the house or senate. So.. he will get absolutely nothing done while the market enters strong bear-mode. Even Obama knows it's a terrible idea to elect Bernie because the majority would never vote for a democrat again, until they would return to the typical centrist shit which would probably take a decade or two.

This is why I will go long China and short US if Bernie gets elected. If there's one country that can benefit from a weak america.. it's China with their already growing influence across the world.

>> No.16983375

NEW THREAD
>>16983371
>>16983371
>>16983371
>>16983371

>> No.16983395

>>16982658
you posted in here before about it

>> No.16983439

>>16983183
OK Boomer, burn a barrel of oil in your room and see if anything changes

>> No.16983452

How can I find out the maximum loss that can occur on a call? It's not the value of the stock time 100 is it?