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Anyone here collect ancient coins at all?

>>16967783
>tfw no denarii

Feels Bad Man

Alright /sg/, I've invested in a Precious Metal ETF on Stash and it has given me the highest returns I've ever had besides Raytheon stock. I am ready to take the plunge and start buying physical coins and bullion.

I will probably get a starter pack with my tax refund in a few weeks (I estimate me getting back at least 3 grand, 1k will pay off any outstanding credit debts, another 1k will buy me another computer rig, and the last 1k is gonna be for shiny rocks), so with that being said I ask you what/where do you keep your silver? In a box? Safe? Any recommendations?

>>16967849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXFLZub7DaU

>>16967849
> tax refund in a few weeks (I estimate me getting back at least 3 grand
>1k will pay off any outstanding credit debts
are you retarded

>>16967833
I don't have any either, just a stock photo I stole.
I don't really have much cultural connection to any of these ancient societies, if I had to get one I'd like one with a lot of detail like pic related. These kinds of coins are ones that the united states based a lot of their desgins from.

>>16967586
>rocks
>literal minerals

>>16967941
if you can't hold it you don't own it

>>16967886
Possibly. Mostly I just mean credit cards.

I still fell for the student loan Jew and so I will be paying that off for a while.

>>16968110
stop giving the government free loans while you have debts with interest

>>16967849
>1k will buy me another computer rig

I have similar plans for mine, but am looking at dropping about $2K into it because I need pretty much everything since it's been over 10 years from my last build. Quick run down of parts your getting?

>what/where do you keep your silver?
I have such a small amount that a sock drawer will have to do for now. Other anons surely have good solutions. If you haven't already done so, see what your state sales tax rules are. For example, here in PA we aren't taxed on PM sovereign currency but will get taxed on things like rounds and bars.

reminder to additionally keep an eye on platinum. It's almost certain to rise, especially now as a alternative to palladium

>>16968710
I have 1.2oz of platinum on standby waiting to swap for gold when the time comes. Probably should get some more.

>>16967783
I don't have anything ancient, but I collect all kinds of coins

Hello silverbros

i spent too long procrastinating, no silver and coronavirus is here. fuckkkk

Made my first buy, 1kg silver bar for $601 from Bullion Exchanges. I'll receive it in a couple weeks.

>>16968789

>>16969175
Based. It seems like there is a ton of interest in silver lately. Any silver oldfriends notice if this is true? I myself have only been following it for a few weeks, but I feel more and more like it's really something that is gaining momentum.

>>16969247
Silver threads have been popping up for the last 8ish months but they are definitely become more popular and consistently are the most replied to threads on biz and many have maxed out replies. Definitely more interest on biz but i can't speak to the level of normie interest in silver, though I doubt their interested has changed much

>>16969220
post yours fag

>>16969265
All thanks to tripfag Schiff

>>16968985
Hello! How's your stack coming along?
>>16969247
SIlver has been getting a lot more attention, this last 6 months.
I also noticed more banks are making easier/cheaper to buy directly from them.

>>16969265
SG threads are so comfy. Normies are into stawks and nothing else.

>>16969343
/biz/ is always right just not about the timing. The bust won't ever happen, you'll be leaving your sons with a pile of silver. Just make sure they understand why metal is so important or they will cash it in for fiat.
that being said just keep stacking.

>>16968985
damn that roo looks pretty nice. might have to pick a few up.

>>16968985
Hey I just bought a 2oz canuckcoin too.

>>16969497
>thick

should i buy a monsterbox? or should i wait for a dip? DCA would be good too but i am fucking addicted to buy PM's

>>16969265
>>16969432
I talked with my wife about silver and she was surprisingly interested in my plans to start a small to moderate stack for us. Maybe it doesn't make people jump to assumptions that they sometimes do with goldfriends, like it's a less extreme version of the doomfag label, although clearly PM fans seem to usually very much like both.

>>16969447
>comfy

Agree, it's like an oasis from the cesspool of zoomer funcoin shitposting. I have nothing against the concept of crypto and do DCA into BTC in a very (relatively) small way vs stocks and soon to be PMs.

>>16969570
>He doesn't stack thiccbois
If you're buying low volumes at a time, just to build a silver stockpile, they're the best deal (2oz bars not pictured, as they were out of stock on this site).

Copper Trump moonshot coming

>>16969497
Those are aktuallee dope.

>>16969770
Copper man bade

>>16969693
been stacking ASE and 10oz bars. looking to add some flavor. going to check out the thick bois

>>16969770
>He spent money on an arcade token
>...then called it an investment

>>16969770
I like this one more.

>>16969175
>Bullion Exchanges
do those cucks ship to the EU?
btw, when you order a silver bar, does it come with something like a 'certificate of ownership' saying that you own that bar?

>>16967586
>Money Metals Exchange Starter Kit
Just bought my third starter kit

>>16969868
Nice

>>16969686
/biz/ is terrible for actual investment advice. As you mentioned, lots of zoomer memecoin posting as if it's legitimate investing. Not saying you can't make money, but with the level of volatility on them, and the near complete lack of backing for any crypto's value, I wouldn't ever bank more than an expendable amount of money on it. /smg/ is alright, but mostly day traders. /sg/ is nice because silver stacks and coin collecting feel like as much a hobby as an investment.
>tfw have a Roth+401(k) for longs
>Stocks for mid/fun
>Bonds for savings
>Silver for the shiggles
>>16969818
Nice, I'm relatively new to silver trading, but from the (admittedly limited) research I've done this is the closest I've been able to get to spot pricing online so far.

>>16969823
I sense jealousy

>>16969279
Just fucking with you.

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>>16969942
>tfw have a Roth+401(k) for longs
>Stocks for mid/fun
>Bonds for savings
He plays the jewish fiat ponzi scheme..

>>16969447
Never say never. I don't think you all really understand how fucked up the world's financial legacy systems really are.

>>16970041
I sure as fuck do. Jews have fat stacks of cash, why wouldn't I want to hop in their world? Also
>Employer match up to 6% my income on each (2% is full, 2% is half, 2% is quarter; finally receive 3.5% of my income to invest 6% for instant 58% ROI)
>Long, NEARLY guaranteed returns, unless we get a dozen more Bernie Madoff scandals all at the same time
>Stocks are mostly expendable money, but is a hobby that's made me a few bucks over the past couple years
>Series EE and I bonds only will lose money if the US government completely collapses
>In the unlikely event that all this occurs, I still have silver stacks to fall on
Liberals had one thing right; diversity is strength.

>>16970110
> he believes this fake and gay currency will continue to exist
bro, are you ok?

>>16969432
what are you buying from banks, and how much?

>>16970153
If this ponzi clown system last more than another year I think I'll probably kill myself.. I don't care if I never get to live out my dreams, I just want the boomers to feel the anxiety and misery I have felt my entire fucking life. I want them all to kill themselves.

>>16970191
how old are you, fren?

Have much more

>>16970234
>literal lego stacks of silver

GIBS ME DAT

>>16970204
Too old to not be a multimillionaire already. My youth is slipping away!!!

>>16970283
Monarchpreciousmetals carrys them.

>>16970288
Well, while you're waiting to be a multimillionaire, please answer my question >>16969888

>>16970191
I've got bad news for you. This will last many many more years.

>>16970311
Why don't you stop being a lazy eurocuck and email the different dealers and ask them? I wish I fucking knew, I live in the great land of stinky niggers known as the United states.

>>16970313
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
WHYYY GODDD WHYY!?!?!?

>>16970344
until I've got a semi truck load of silver I will not allow the petro dollar to die yet

>>16970234
That's what, $600, $700 in melt value? Not bad senpai. Not bad.
>>16970153
I think the IMF has been successful in making the modern currency system get enough universal adoption that it will take a lot for it to collapse. I also think that the Federal Reserve in the US has enough stockpiles of precious metals where in the event that there is a crash and return to gold/silver standard, that things will turn out fine.
>>16970191
Ok, zoomer.

>>16970356
>where in the event that there is a crash and return to gold/silver standard
precisely.
if that happens, everything denominated in fiat will collapse and the gold and silver will sky rocket.
the usdollar today is worth 1.5% of its 1913 value.
the more they print it, the more they devalue it.
there will come a time where it won't even be worth the paper it's printed on.

I stack silver, ammo, heritage seeds, and have just gotten my hands on pot seeds

Am I retarded for having pot seeds Incase shit goes side ways and I can grow them for bartering purposes? People will always want to smoke and are to lazy to grow. I stack silver (just ordered another 12oz and 1gram of gold) and etc. for if there is economic calamity so My making it is being able to survive and maybe barter for land/livestock.

>>16970356
Boomers need to suffer!!! They are horrible, horrible people.

>>16970191
This will last until trump leaves the office in 2024. Just chill and play stocks to accumulate shiny rocks until then

>>16970380
I don't expect that to actually happen, but I get your argument. That is what Germany saw in the 1930s, however that was the result of the central banking kicking up interest rates beyond what the country was able to pay on their loans. Inflation happens though, it happened even during the days of the gold standard. I don't expect central banks to kick up interest rates so high they will be defaulted on by nations, at least not for a while. Exceptions to this would be for countries that the IMF wants to spank, like Venezuela. Places like the US and PRC are too big of markets to allow debt failure.

Anyway, I'm still gonna buy silver in case Warren gets the DNC nomination, I expect precious metal prices will rise as she pushes her "wealth tax" as a goal.

>>16970384
Most are retarded anon but they aren’t horrible. They grew up in a time of extreme wealth and prosperity and bought into the Jews web of lies because cash,pussy, and drugs were plentiful.

Did they bring about this hell we are dealing with? Yes. That said they are also the most gullible retards on earth and listen to whatever the man on the electric Jew (tv) tells them.

Be better then them anon because you will inherit this mess and can either wallow in it or help fix it.

>>16970354
My goal is a full silver contract. Don't know where I'd store all of that, but it's the goal.

>>16970380
fun fact i was researching coal/wood/pellet burners for heating in a possible off grid cabin in wyoming. found a site that was comparing fuel costs and for shiggles they has $1 USD bills. in 10 years it will probably be cheaper to heat your house with singles then any traditional fuel source.

>>16970335
I meant the second question, cuckoid.

>>16970384
Ok, Zoomer.

cutie came in the mail today

>>16970383
How long do they last in storage?

>>16970750
awww, how much did you pay? i want one now and want a reference

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>>16969934
absolutely devious and devilish
>>16969343
Judas sold out Jesus for 14 ounces of silver
would you sell out a friend to guaranteed death for <$300 today?
how about the equivalent of $3,000,000 in purchasing power today?

Egyptians knew how important silver was
>Gold was considered to be the skin of the ancient Egyptian gods, but their bones were thought to be of silver.
>Egyptians believed silver to be more precious and expensive than gold
never seen this posted here before by ANYONE or even on the internet, PYRAMIDS outer rim was outlined with silver, was stripped away by looters over the years

The best PSYOP the 13 (roths/royal families) have is the stifling of information PSYOP
i.e. not talking to your friends/neighbors/other people about silver and its innate value because of FEAR and distrust for those around you (if i tell this person why silver is so important and get them to see the light they could use this against me, they might steal my stack or rob me) thus you are effectively self censored by this PSYOP
Same PSYOP is implored in the ZOG PSYOP (can't talk about how the 13's have jew agents running countless institutions, i.e. media, hollywood, tv, news, new networks, newspapers, banking, investment institutions, politicians with dual citizenship, porn industry, the top 1% of the 1%, schooling bias etc etc. WITHOUT being labeled as a nazi, antisemitic bigot hate crimer) Hence the PSYOP works in the same way in which the TRUTH is stifled by APPREHENSION and the risks that come when talking to others. Thus the TRUTH is again suppressed by FEAR of telling the TRUTH.
You think its a boatload of jews running this by coincidence? Fuck no, the 13's are geniuses, they know what people put in place will have the least chance of being ridiculed, or this network even being pointed out.

>>16970998
If you rounded up every single ounce of tangible .999 in the world it is LESS THAN $50 billion
ASK YOURSELF
why is the futures derivatives of paper silver at almost $10 TRILLION, they are trading silver at 170x leverage, trading trillions worth of silver THAT DOESNT EVEN EXIST ON THE PLANET, its all paper certificates
two words
INSIDER ACCUMULATION

i NEVER link to jewtube stuff but this is just too much, MUST WATCH
>Scott Minerd CIO of Guggenheim dropping redpills
>its all a ponzi
>he cant even keep a lid on it
>UNIRONICALLY, SILVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB3_oOxVqdk

good god you guys have no idea what's coming, please use your newfound wealth wisely

>>16970998
Schiff please come join us >>16970980

>>16970283
Lol got it for my son
He is a Lego maniac
Saving all for kids
I have problems saving money
Don’t have problems buying silver

>>16970998
>Judas sold out Jesus for 14 ounces of silver
wtf this metal is cursed forever then

>>16970356
Thanks anon
Underneath the top is a lot more
Prolly like 2k

All jm bullion they are the fucking best

>>16971044
>jm bullion
i buy from them too
how do you feel about silvertownes, is there anything off about them? they're always cheapest and always available. sunshine bars are sold out now.

>>16970998
>>16971015
the psyop goes deep:
>2nd place in olympics get silver, implying it's inferior to gold
>in the movie Gattaca, jude law's character is sour because he got 2nd place and won only a silver medal
>everyone pumps gold medalists but no one gives a single shit about silver medal winners.

>>16971360
My stack is primarily silver towne. An ounce is an ounce

>>16971036
unironically this.i can be a consooooomer without actually "spending" money.

Hey frens, bought my first 10 ounces in June. Today I placed an order that, once it arrives, will officially place me at 100 oz., 3 figures of silver oz.! I know that I am a stacklet and poor but it just feels good to finally hit 3 figures. These threads are comfy and I wouldn't have bought without talking with you frens so I just want to say thanks and that we are all gonna make it

I was going to pick up some more metal this afternoon, but I don't want to wreck my average with the spot jump.

>>16971812
Bought 25 oz. today. Did I fug up?

>>16971797
Great job fren! See you at 1000oz. Remember silver is like link. Never sell it until new order is in place.

>>16971823
No, you're fine. Most of my silver stack is from $15/oz; I just don't want to skew my average $/oz.

>>16971411
I remember in (I think) 2012 there was some African kayaker who locked in at LEAST a third place slot for his country and the dude was probably the most ecstatic I've ever seen someone in the olympics, since his country had no previous medals at all (IIRC he only took bronze). Like, moreso excited than when Michael Phelps matched the golds record in 2008, this guy was just happy to be the first person from his country to guarantee that he was bringing home a medal for his country which was sorely lacking in any kind of "prestige" on the world stage.

>>16971797
I'm please that we gave you great interest keep going anon

>>16971823
do you still have enough left to pay your bills?

>>16970882
5 years minimum, that said if stored right 20+ years is not unheard of

>>16971852
Yes, ample.

>>16970998
>>16971015

I appreciate your input. I have finally reached my goal over 100 and will now be buying 10 oz silver every other month plus 1 gram of gold. Even if this doesn’t happen the way you say I still enjoy having something that will be worth money far after I die.

>>16971924
Seeds in general or pot seeds?

>>16971999
then you didn't fug up you did very good fren

I saw the saddest Youtube comment ever. Some boomer left a comment saying silver was their worst investment of their life. They have 30 years left to live and like 10 years of good life left. They said if silver doesnt pick up soon it's game over for their hopes and dreams..

Boomies and silverfags btfo?

>>16972009
Both. Pot seeds I’ve heard of growing 20+ years and same with seeds stored well. There is a reason why there are seed vaults, the only problem is germination rate falls somewhat or is delayed.

>>16970698
Day of the pillow soon.

What happened to PMG's. Miss muh gold fags.

>>16970577
I haven't really got any large bars yet, from my understanding, some of them come with an paper with the assay on it. But there's not really anything to verify proof of ownership. Precious metals were the original monero, fungible as fuck, you'd steal them and melt them down and no one's the wiser.

>>16971924
Fucking do eet

>>16971797
:DD Your future harem of waifus will be very proud of u anon

>>16972051
And yea alot of oldfags got fucked over hard by holding it over the years. He should stop whining and just pass it on to his kids so they can live the dream

>>16969447
>The bust won't ever happen
you need to youtube George Gammon

>>16972051
You're supposed to swap between silver and gold every 10 years or so as the ratio oscillates so that you gain ounces, he's just a dumbfuck. Also

GOLD AND SILVER ARE NOT AN "INVESTMENT"

THEY DO NOT APPRECIATE, THEY DO NOT "MOON"

You don't buy precious metals to gain value, you buy them to preserve value you already have. 1000 years ago 1 oz of gold would buy you a very nice suit. 100 years ago 1 oz of gold would buy you a very nice suit. Today 1 oz of gold will buy you a very nice suit.

Anyone else feel like gold and silver are about to spike bigly when the market open again next week? This China stuff is getting spooky, and regardless of how serious it actually is, there's gonna be a ton of fear pumping through the newswires until the dust settles.

>>16972384
damn suits just got worse with time.

>>16972476
I feel it could collapse markets and thus the monetary system.

I just bought 1 oz 2013 American Eagle silver for $23.. was that a good deal? Its close enough to what I would pay on jmbullion

Thx

>>16972758
If you're stacking for the new order like schiff believes than an oz is an oz. If this is why you're stacking then don't pay the premiums for ASE and you should get rounds or bars.

>>16972262
Thank you.
Then how can I prove that I'm the legal owner of a bar?
I mean, when I open a bank account there are records saying that the money inside that account is mine and not yours; when I buy stocks there are also records where it is stated that I bought those stocks.
But what about silver bars?
Do coins come with any kind of 'certificate of ownership'?

>>16972566
The fear is still building

>>16972758
decent but not the best. seeing cull eagles for around 19-20 bux, regular bu eagles for 21 bux excluding shipping and taxes

>>16972809
No not usually, proof is usually proven by possession. It's that simple, and it's why the jew fears the precious metals.

>>16972384
The weird thing is, after seeing this, I tried looking for any reference to ancient gold coins weighing over 16 grams and could not find any. Seems like the spending power of gold actually went down over time. Not fudding, just an observation.

>>16971411
Based
>>16971797
based, that is still +100 ounces over the average normie who has zero ounces
Every single ounce counts, it brings us one ounce closer to exposing the ponzi thus mooning our own bags.
>>16971812
trading a digital illusion of unbacked wealth printed out of thin air at an infinite rate for a finite supply high use case MONEY is never a fuck up
>>16972051
boomer doesn’t realize we’re on the precipice of the greatest wealth transfer in human history, i have no pity for him, countless of stocks have dropped to zero, silver has not and will never go to zero
>>16972002
I am 100% sure it will happen, even if it doesnt happen (it will happen) you sustain your wealth against the federal reserves plan to devalue your purchasing power by 33%
https://www.forbes.com/sites/charleskadlec/2012/02/06/the-federal-reserves-explicit-goal-devalue-the-dollar-33/#71e46ee61478

>>16971411
in the late 2000s i saw platinum finally take over in the mainstream
i was visibly confused that video games started showing me bronze silver gold and then platinum then i think diamond if the game offered it
i think it goes on scarcity rather than actual worth
>>16970894
i had to scan around a lot before picking a seller. this seller is just a cheap price i found and has a lot of listings of high quality circulated coins
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-WWII-2-mark-German-Silver-Coin-Third-Reich-Reichsmark-5/142649797096?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

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>>16972809
you can buy silver "contracts" from jpm
a lot of dealers have printed certs from the mint with serials and all that, but i've still seen fakes being made like that and sold to local dealers
a cert of ownership would defeat the purpose of pms which is to keep lawyers out of your inheritance and government from taxing your retirement
its like buying a gun from a dealer vs a friend.
the dealer has to put you down on 50 different watchlists, the friend just gives you the damned gun.

>>16970998
The memory hole is so vast and deep that it's nearly impossible to explain this FED shit to other people, let alone why they should buy metals. I got my direct family on board, that's all I can really do. I may try a few close friends, but I already know most won't get it and I also don't want to advertise that I own valuable metals. It's like normie brain cells have degraded by being filled with complete useless junk for so fucking long that they're beyond fixing until after they've lost everything, and they still probably won't learn. Psyops are real and so many people are gonna get raped by their own stupidity in the near future. It's pretty sad really, because all of this could easily be fixed with a little bit of general knowledge...

>>16973058
protip: never tell anyone what you know
learned that early on. shit will get you robbed.

>>16973078
oh and plus its just more competition.
fuck them if they aint in.

>>16972967
Feels like you're shilling a little too hard sometimes.

>>16973058
agreed, was set up in an intricate and deceitful way on purpose, making the explanation to those unknowing extremely hard.
Much research and reading must be done to come to grips with a knowledgeable understanding of how it all operates, takes not only a High IQ individual to be able to comprehend these notions but more importantly a High IQ individual WITH an understanding that something is wrong and fraudulent whom seeks to decifer the occultic properties of it all.

>>16971036
that's what got me into it in the first place lol
it satisfies my impulsive spending itch and i get to save money

>>16973118
How can you say all this and deny LINK?

In the beginners guide in the OP, it talks about pretty (probably a better word) coins like the panda coin gaining value above just what it's worth in silver. What are some of the best coins for that?

>>16973118
Ignore me all you want nigger, I'd bet the farm that you at least have a 10k LINK stack hidden somewhere.

>>16968526
Been 8 years since mine. I'm looking at pre-builts since I don't play much serious stuff anymore and I'm kinda lazy and nervous to learn how to build one. Probably just something that can run League and DOTA well enough (yeah my PC is so old it's having trouble running those pieces of shit now) and maybe Halo: Reach on PC. It doesn't need to be ultra-shiny or RGB lights on it so it looks like a Deadmau5 concert, but a decent mid-tier prebuilt with a solid processor, graphics card and especially an SSD will get the job done for another few years, and it will be much easier to upgrade than the 2012 HP Envy I currently have.

>>16973270
There's no way someone with as much insight as he claims to have is not into link. PMs and crypto are the future and smart contract are part of that future. He's in LINK but just likes to fud the good threads.

>>16973146
see >>16973334
>>16973673
coming clean on this
kek me and uncle are the most notorious link fudders and get a bunch of shit for fudding, but me and him probably have a combined bigger stack than 30% of this board all pooled together
me and uncle are not the same person contrary to what newfags are shilling, just OG linkers who bought in at ICO that fud to newfags out of fun/boredom I won't even say how big my stack is

everything i actively fud and shill i own, all you need it a decent stack of ZEC, LINK and SILVER to make it

>>16973751
Hey, Schiff, what's your relation with Adam Schiff from the Democratic Party?

>>16973751
>ZEC
wtf is this shitcoin

>>16973751
Yes you are uncle old fag, shut the fuck up.

>>16973777
You see these trips? You see em?!?!?
There's no denying it now uncle aids fag!!!>>16973751

>>16973270
kek much bigger than that, all the oldfags on this board know me and uncle, the two biggest LINK antishills are actually LINK permabulls despite him and I fudding constantly for the shits of it
infact one of this first posts on this trip was giving uncle a you, agreeing with his post that we needed to continue to fud LINK

>>16973751
I would think it would be BTC, ETH and LINK, with Silver and gold for the big reset. So why ZEC?

>>16973772
DYOR it was created by DARPA, the same people that created the internet allowing us to shitpost
>>16973777
no we're not the same person, thats retarded
we just collab'd to troll newfags out of buying LINK
uncle probably has a bigger stack than i do
>>16973797
BTC was just a test for ZEC, the currency of the future needs to be private, BTC is old tech
don't like ETH either, too many trannies on that dev team

>>16969942
>tfw have a Roth+401(k) for longs
>Stocks for mid/fun
>Bonds for savings
>Silver for the shiggles

Mein negger. I have all of these too. I like the idea of PM stacking on top of these because in case worst case scenario happens in our lifetime, there is a backup to your wealth that people have been using for literally thousands of years and everyone, from a Wall Street broker to some shepherd in Nepal, will take as currency as a result.

Fuck paper, get rocks.

>>16973797
zec is shit. there's a fucking company behind it, transactions aren't private by default and it has a huge founder's reward (coins that goes to greedy founders for doing literally nothing to make the network safer)

>>16973836
plus zec also has trannies in their "dev" (cloning bitcoin) team and got memed for it back in the day

>>16973836
Will I make it with 30k LINK?

Please help me, I'm retarded.

Currently, gold price per gram is $50.61 USD
There are 28.3495 grams in one ounce
Therefore, 28.3495 * $50.61 = $1,434.77 USD

Currently, gold price per ounce is $1,574.20 USD

????? $139.43 ?????

Please help me, I'm retarded.

>>16971015
>>16971015
Jackson is unbelievably based and viciously redpilled. Normies have been conditioned to hate him because of "muh racism" and "muh Injuns" though, despite him being one of our most important Presidents.

>>16974047
No, you are looking at regular grams to regular oz. With metals it is measured in terms of TROY oz.
convert from troy oz to grams, it's something like 31.5 grams per troy oz. i forgot because i stopped buying in terms of grams.

>>16974047
Grams in a troy ounce: 31.10348

>>16974094
>>16974103

thank you for supporting down syndrome today.

>>16971812
That stamped 100oz RCM bar is a beauty

>>16974047
gold isn't sold in ounces
it's sold in troy ounces.

there are 31.1035 grams in a troy ounce

>>16967783
I've seen charts showing the Denari silver content over time as the bronze ring around the edge gets bigger and bigger. I think it'd be a really cool display to have a set tracking the change over time.

Alright fuckers, shill me on LINK while you’re at it. Should I buy into this anytime soon??

should i get a 10oz. RCM (royal canadian mint) silver bar that is .9999, or a 10 oz. sunshine mint that is .999. i already have sunshines. my tism makes me want to keep it all the same. but i know .9999 are slightly higher quality.

i wish 1/10 oz silver bullion coins were more common

why the fuck do you buy coins instead of bars?
you pay more per gram of silver with coins than with bars.

>>16973164z
Look for things with low mintages. The 2019 s enhanced reverse proof is a great example. They sold for 70 bucks shipped and are going for at least 1k now.

>>16974279
no VAT

>>16974270
Be the change you want to see.

>>16974317
i'm yuropoor :(

>>16974317

>>16974195
>>16974195
(((0.999))) you don't need that extra 1/1000 goy. but seriously it doesn't matter much. i like sunshines, but its also nice to have some different shit go for the RCM its a fine bar.

>>16974345
I shall make my own 1/10 oz coins soon, and you all will buy them.

>>16974185
Digital crypto and precious metals will eventually replace the current worldwide fiat and credit system. It's a matter of "when" not "if", and the "when" will coincide with the biggest shift in wealth in human history after the entire system collapses. It might not happen tomorrow, or the next decade or even in our lifetimes, but it will happen. (((They))) have been orchestrating it to happen since the destruction of the gold standard, building their own wealth through fiat yes, but also stocking away shiny rocks at artificially lowered prices so that the rest of the public doesn't catch on. These are the same (((people))) who fucked with the housing market back in 2008 and they have the entirety of the major world governments under their thumbs. The only way to curb your losses is to hedge your bets and buy what they are buying.

"If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" is the phrase, I believe.

>>16974303
any more examples of these coins? how do see mintages for each one?

>>16974412
If you are looking at one of the big sellers the mintage is usually listed. I know Apmex just listed some Queen(the band) ones and they sold out fast. Some of the odd, out of business, or vintage bars can carry a nice premium too. You have to hunt for them to find em cheaper though.

>>16974463
I hate being european most of the time. At least the food is better (I think?) but we'll be poor forever

>>16970750
want to ebay this bad but ill get put on a list up in canuckistan

is there any way to melt silver jewels into coins and bars?
imagine that my grandmother owns several pure silver forks, knives, jewels, etc.
is there any type of service offered by mints where you give them your silver and they purify it and melt it into bars?
that would be amazing.

>>16974195
What are the prices of the bars?
I'd go with RCM, but only if the premium isnt insanely high.

>>16974488
>>16974337
where do you buy your silver, fellow eurofag?

>>16974488
Thesilverforum.com is mostly based over there. I'd check there for more info.

>>16974524
This is what happened with the Hunt brothers. When it 50 bucks an oz, people start pulling out the silverware and selling it.

>>16974524
honestly, i'd love to have old silverware like candelabras, chalices and utensils in addition to my growing bullion stack
>>16974632
tavex

>>16974390
I completely agree with what you said and have been following this shit my entire life. I buy PMs all the time and avoid taxes as much as I can. I don't know much about blockchain technology or why LINK is so popular here, I remember when it was shilled at $.10 and still never bought any. I don't understand what makes LINK so special or why I should buy it to hold long term, or any crypto for that matter if I already have PMs.

>>16974632
haven't bought bullion yet, started collecting junk 0.8-0.9, but check europeanmint.com

i hate the term 'junk silver'
no such thing

>>16974789
> tavex
Oh, you're that bulgarian faggot.
> honestly, i'd love to have old silverware like candelabras, chalices and utensils in addition to my growing bullion stack
Yes. My grandmother has them, but the silver is oxidated due to years of being exposed. She has some plates, cutlery and jewels that are made of silver. Some are pure silver, others are probably mixed with other metals.

Where's the safest place to store?

>>16974789
>honestly, i'd love to have old silverware like candelabras, chalices and utensils in addition to my growing bullion stack
When you're into PMs it's so easy to understand why historically they've been so valuable. If you look around today you see "fake" precious metals everywhere. There's shiny shit all over the place, but it's always something larping as real gold or silver. You can easily see how our livelihoods have been pillaged and replaced with fake cheap garbage over time, makes me sad really. People can't even recognize something that actually has value anymore...

>>16974821
>europeanmint.com
They only have coins...

>>16967594
So which company is manufacturing these verifier? Can i invest in them?

>>16974835
Your house.
In a place where only you know it's there.

>>16974836
Precisely.
It used to be a way of storing wealth back in the day. This silver cutlery I'm talking about come all the way from my great-grandparents.
My aunt and grandmother say that those cutlery items and plates are pure silver. I believe them but I'd like to be sure.

>>16974862
It would be fantastic if there was a place where you could hand in over your silver and they would purify it and melt it into bars for you.
I'd pay for that.

>>16974833
>Oh, you're that bulgarian faggot.
not me
>the silver is oxidated due to years of being exposed.
that's what silver polish is for. i prefer a heavy patina and signs of wear, though

>>16974836
It’s because we are living in a high time preference nigger IQ society now.

>>16974830
they invented that phrase to further shit on silver. part of the psyop. notice how there's no such thing as junk gold, or junk platinum. not even junk copper. there's different lingo for copper grades. they use 'scrap'.

>>16974279
coins go up in value faster. i'm still kicking myself for not buying the first release of silver kruggerands

>>16974598
RCM is about $2-3 more than the sunshine 10oz. i expected them to be at least $5-10 higher since maples are higher.

anybody else prefer tarnished silver?
is it taboo?

What do you all think of Chris Duane? do you think it’s worth it for some of his coins? He puts some pretty nutty stuff on YouTube. I wonder what the Rothschilds would think of pic related.

I should have them by the end of next week. This will definitely put me over 800 ounces of silver.

>>16975102
i love those 1/4oz but the $10 face triggers my autism when it should be $12.5

>>16972384
there weren't any suits 1000 years ago, unless you're talking about a suit of armor.

>>16967586
are you guys following the idlib offensive?

>>16974846
>Sigma Metalytics

an no they are a privet company

>>16975157
the what now?

>>16967849
>Buy safe
>Fill safe with fake gold bars
>Keep real gold bars in a beat up looking old cardboard box in the same room

>>16975056
silver is silver.most people prefer shiny silver but at the end u wanna have silver.if u sell a tarnished silver coin u will get the melting down price and not potential price for the vintage of these silver coins.

>>16975190
Before I got my big safe I kept my stack in an old vacuum cleaner box covered with 90's era video game magazines in the basement. Sometimes I wonder if I was better off that way.

>>16975168
>the what now?
this is /syria general/ isn't it?

>>16975236
no this is silver general anon

>>16975236
you're a bit lost, aren't you?

>>16975236
no this is /sadhguru/

>>16975267
https://invidio.us/h75MDznrHSY

>>16975190
>be nigger thief
>too dumb to open safe
>"fuck it ill just take this cardboard box to spite this yt boi"
what do?

>>16974047
Don't tell him about troy pounds.

should I be buying silver in these little plastic things?
it's called 'certified silver'..

>>16975701
kike scam silver is silver no matter ho tarnished or scratched you should get spot

>>16975754
thank you.

>>16974524
All that stuff is .925 sterling silver. You want your bars to be .999.

>>16975078
He's got some amazing looking art rounds at his silver shield mint but those premiums are OTT. They're produced in tiny quantities tho so there's some potential for collector value.

>>16970234
Why the fuck do you have dollar coins?

>>16976073
you can still scrap sterling and they'll turn it into .999 bars
thats called refining. very common thing to do even now.

>>16976107
ikr the copper in those is worth way less than the dollar value of the fkn coin

>>16969265
> but they are definitely become more popular and consistently are the most replied to threads on biz
Please, don't do this to me.
NORMIE GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16972384
Based.

> my favorite silver schizo is also a fellow LINKer
Based, we are gonna make it.

>>16976107
they're gold dollars
duh

do you guys test your silver to see if it's fake?

Any other mountain Juden fags here? Looking for good places to buy silver from

>>16970980
No idea why but that link doesn't work for me. Previous /sg/ second time some anon posted it, it worked

>>16973751
Hey bro, could you elaborate on crypto? I know why you think Silver is the future, but what's your motivation to hoard LINK?

Anyone keep their good in something like pic related? Coach zipper pouch and couldn’t be happier.

>>16978022
Looks pretty comfy fren

>>16974814
Think of blockchain cryptos as a secondary market of universal currency, one that only needs a secure internet connection to access 24/7. The crypto itself can even be backed by PMs, as well. Both will be important once the collapse eventually happens, since one will be completely digitized and the other as physical as it has always been for thousands of years. One complements the other.

>>16978108
Thanks. It was $75 and is big enough to hold a few ounces. I'd like to get a leather bag to store my silver but finding one that can carry 50lbs of silver is difficult.

>>16978152
Unironically thinking Gucci since they pissed off a bunch of niggers last year with a based turtle neck.

>>16977766
Those digits compel me to answer. Here's the short answer. If DeFi is to take off it will need data off the blockchain. Link is the only project out there that is doing that. If you want more in depth understanding you'll have to dig through the archives and read up on link or sit in the good link threads.

>>16978168
Lmfao what the fuck is that...

>>16978235
Last year Gucci released that. 50 cent and other niggers boycotted Gucci because this was "racist black face". I think its fucking based and turtledpilled

>>16978270
.50 cent will do anything to try and stay relevant, I bet he sells crack again because he's a broke motherfucker.

>>16975190
Based

>>16978168
I wouldn't be surprised if this is the main antagonist of JoJo Part 8 since Araki still doesn't fucking know who it is.

Just picked up 100oz.

>>16978986
that seems fake.
you better test for it.

>>16978986
that seems fake.

when should you stop stacking? 1000 oz silver 20 oz gold here

>>16979041
How many linkies?

>>16979041
are you sure you didn't buy fakes?

>>16978986
What made you choose buffalos? Buffalo coins to me seem like the most boomeresque choice available for some reason.

>>16979054
I have a local coin shop I buy from in cash. I only care to stack Au/Ag just for the melt value, so I don't care to pay higher premiums for ASE. I take whatever silver he has for spot +$1/oz. Today he had buffalos, last week he had a 100oz. RCM bar.

>>16979076
Nice

>>16974963
Any toning is considered environmental damage but by degrees. Also, there might be 20 million 1921 Morgan$ minted but only 5000 in ms65. This accounts for the value. I prefer worn US coinage with readable dates. Any bullion is priced premium above spot

>>16979049
0 linkies
>>16979052
no i don't not everybody on /biz is a NEET

>>16979104

Jewpill me on silver, bros

help out a silver newfag, please.
Is there any difference in buying silver bullions or bars?

>>16979127
Should get some linkies fren.

>>16979148
Also this

>>16979166
no fuck chainlink and fuck crypto all together if /biz would have invested in stocks instead of crypto they would not be bag holding as they are today. Lost too much with crypto gained some last year bought some btc low and sold at 12k never looking back at this shit.

>>16979166
Don’t forget this trip code faggot admitted to having like 15oz of silver. Lol.

>>16979148
You may be able to find bars with less premium than rounds, but it can be more difficult to find a buyer for the bars later (especially if silver price moons).

If silver goes to $1,000/oz. it will be easier to find a buyer for 1oz. round vs. finding a buyer for a 100oz. bar.

>>16979148
silver is silver.
bars have tax but coins have a higher premium (aka price you pay over the sport price)
>>16979127
do you do any tests to see if what you're buying is fake, faggot?

>>16979281
i only buy my stuff from dealers and not online imagine degussa selling fake PM

>>16979243
Maybe that’s his schizo uncle, who is apparently also him. Tripfags really are awesome

>>16979248
Is keeping the max oz of you bars below 10oz a good way to circumvent this you think?

>>16979316
wait i bought 20 oz of maple leaf from degussa

Do you tell your friends? I want to show them and I trust them completely, but I don't want it to travel through the grapevine and get robbed.

>>16979319
Limiting your bars to 10oz. sounds like a good strategy.

>>16979374
I always handled it like this. Do you need them to know how much and where you have your silver? Only those who i see as useful for future business have a vague idea on what i do.

>>16979243
I have 50 oz. That's without really even trying.

>>16979194
Ngmi anon.

>>16979331
don't worry degussa is legit the other anon is just jelly because he is a broke nigger

>>16979480
don't you guys test the silver you bought to know if it's fake or not?

>>16979752
No, i buy American silver eagles and constitutional silver from trusted dealers, they are backed by the United states government/mint.

>>16979783
>from trusted dealers
Can you name a few?
> they are backed by the United states government/mint
It's said that the US gov mixes tungsten with gold to prop its official gold reserves. Don't you think they'd do the same with your (((dealers)))?

>>16979783
The problem though is that these trusted dealers let something like the gold reverse proof libertad, which was tainted with iron, get sold to the public. Ampex and everyone else is only as reliable as the mints.

>>16979752
I gave a magnet in my phone case: if it doesn’t stick, that’s good enough for me

>>16979928
They export a lot of coins around the world, if they got caught selling fake stuff they'd be in a world of shit.

>>16980058
Source?

>>16980076
what kind of magnet?
does that magnet thing test for "plate"?

>>16980116
Just a regular magnet to keep the cover in place. I know it will only tell me if there’s a ferrous/magnetic metal in the coin/bar but it’s an easy spot check. A strong magnet is also a good way to find junk silver in a pile of old coins (Protip: the ones that don’t stick are the silver ones).

>>16980143
that's the only test you make?

>>16980156
I buy from a reputable source that sells stuff from reputable mints. I’m not at all worried about counterfeit silver. Gold and platinum a little more so, but not really.

>>16980196
>I buy from a reputable source
Online? If yes, which one?
> reputable mints
Are umicore and metalor "reputable mints"?
> I’m not at all worried about counterfeit silver.
Ok, ok. I wasn't trying to insult your intelligence. Sorry if it came out that way. Just wanted to bring this question to the table because, unfortunately, it does exist.

>>16980292
In person, in cash. Google them, I don’t know; my stack is mostly RCM and Sunshine mint. Counterfeiting definitely exists, just do your homework as best you can.

>>16975078
He’s pretty based, i sold some of his shit on ebay at $200 for one ounce when spot was $17. There is a premium, but it’s exactly the same as ASE premiums, and the price will appreciate much much higher because the mints are smaller, also like the designs he puts out
>>16976663
kek, every tripfag that fuds link (me, uncle, detective anon) are actually link whales trolling newfags

Can you get smaller new mint silver coins. Maybe half ounce or quarter ounce size?

>>16980292
sdbullion/apmex/goldenstatemint are the only places i buy from, have purchased a boatload from each and have tested each coin gold/silver and not once have a gotten a fake or impure bullion from any of them, just use trusted sources they test everything they buy and sell

are sub 200oz silver stacklets going to make it? I have 105oz right now and I am accumulating. Also in your opinion do you see the USA balkanizing if it was to go back to Pm'S due to a fiat collapse? or is it a world wide shitshow that will have breadlines and anons making small communities?

>>16980642
are sub 200oz silver stacklets going to make it? I have 105oz right now and I am accumulating. Also in your opinion do you see the USA balkanizing if it was to go back to Pm'S due to a fiat collapse? or is it a world wide shitshow that will have breadlines and anons making small communities?

is JMbullion ok to buy from?

>>16980642
Thank you.
Well, I'm from Europe so I can't order from those sources or else shipping costs will destroy me.
However, I went to the Perth Mint's website and in there I found their official distributors/dealers. Can I trust them? One of those ships for free to my country.

>>16980616
Guys please answer this.

>>16980642
Thank you.
Well, I'm from Europe so I can't order from those sources or else shipping costs would destroy me.
However, I went to the Perth Mint's website and in there I found their official distributors/dealers. Can I trust them? One of those ships for free to my country.

>>16972384
anthropologically based

>>16980642
Have you ever had a problem with SD bullion at all? I sent in payment last friday via a personal check and it still says awaiting payment on my order. When I called them yesterday they said they just now got my check. I don't believe the US mail took seven days to ship an envelope two states away. I could drive there in seven hours.

>>16980616
rephrase your question.
what do you mean?

>>16980642
Thank you.
Well, I'm from Europe so I can't order from those sources or else shipping costs would destroy me.
However, I went to the Perth Mint's website and in there I found their official distributors/dealers in Europe. Can I trust them? One of those ships for free to my country.

>>16980616
The US mint does not have fractional silver coins that I know of. They have 1/2, 1.4 and 1/10 ounce gold though.

>>16980728
JM/SD are my goto. checkout JM "deals" update every monday. can get low spot and no qty price breaks everything is max cheap.

>>16980801
next time just send an eCheck

>>16980846
thanks man I will check it out this Monday. Appreciate the info

>>16972384
I’ve always made the same connection with weapons because Yeshua said sell you cloak and buy a sword.
Because a good weapon will run you same price as a good suit. They always said the sword was as much as the armor. Today a mid range priced rifle will run you about 1200$. It’s funny how that works.

Anyone have experience with pair trading between silver and gold? Do I just walk in a bullon bank and ask for a swap?

>>16980823
>>16980836
Newly minted Gold coins come in fractional sizes. I’ve never seen a newly minted silver coin say the size of a quarter or any fractional size for that matter. I know you can get the pre 1965 silver coin but they’re not 99.99 silver they’re only 90% and they look old as fuck. Plus I like my stuff shiny and new looking.

>>16980642
>have purchased a boatload from each and have tested each coin gold/silver and not once have a gotten a fake or impure bullion from any of them
Also, how do you test your gold/silver?

>>16980922
It doesn’t have to be the US mint. I’ll buy any countries minted coinage.

>>16980899
You mean swapping silver for gold or the other way? They will do it for you no problem and unless they are crooks they will give you a pretty good deal.

You might wanna watch the last 40 secs of this video, stacklets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB3_oOxVqdk

>>16969590
Dont DCA, just buy a lump sum now. That way you also get a bulk discount. The price wont be letting up any time soon.

>>16981223
more like watch the whole thing, Great truthtelling, some of the best info this week to come out of the market.

They already made him write up some bs article because he spilled the beans here.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/guggenheim-10-macro-themes-watch-2020

Contradicts himself. Video he says the whole market its a ponzi, article says real estate is gonna boost the economy this year. Makes no sense unless someone slapped his writs.

Also as you are referring too he is a silverbull

>>16980922
They definitely have 1/4 and 1/10 troy ounce coins, the premiums are a bit steep on them though.

>>16975078
His rounds are hit or miss just like his youtube videos.
Also he has an annoying voice.
His biggest problem is that he thinks he is smarter than he actually is.
He puts out a lot of good information about silver and he is correct that after the collapse we need to create a sustainable society where everyone who lives within it is given an opportunity to succeed but then he has other videos where he cries about muh nazis, muh collectivism, muh racism and muh flat earth is a psyop etc.

NEW THREAD EVERYONE!!!

>>16981936
>>16981936
>>16981936

NEW THREAD EVERYONE !!!

>>16979141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_h-5H421MA&feature=youtu.be

>>16979248
Silver at 1k/Oz...How realistic is that kind of price?

>>16971812
Yah but why'd you get that dumb trump coin?

>>16967586
worthless rocks. at least buy gold since it has an actual use case.

>>16974489
mail proxy lol

>>16980716
If and when the dollar fails, I don't see how it CAN'T affect the worldwide financial system. It will be the biggest devaluation in history and it will affect all fiat without exception.

>>16982129

>>16981223
>You might wanna watch the last 40 secs of this video

>>16982375
They were all out of Biden coins