/biz/ - Business & Finance

Purchase SNSS

thoughts on DFEN as a long term hold?

first for poopoopeepee

Sell stocks I do not have
Buy stocks I do have
Watch anime

>>16903474
you had me until that last bit

>>16903392
First for QQQ

>>16903392
Why are all the posters in /smg/ a bunch of weebs?

>Partially filled before bitcoin pumps 0.40%

SPCE

>>16903525
Because this is 4chan

Buy SPCE
Buy MAXR

>>16903525
they're not. I'm not. However, this is 4chan. It is weeb central, don't expect something different. Also, animu is fine.

sec.gov:APPL

Why the fuck are markets closed for Martin Luther King day??? I’m not even a racist but seriously no one cares about that shit

>>16903392
nice gif.

>>16903474
Every lesbian anime should have the final episode be the heroines falling in love with cock (by force)

>>16903552
is it finally happening?

>had low-ish limit order on penny stock set on Friday
>it hit that price but not enough sell volume to get to my order in the queue
>relieved
>maybe

I'm very very new to investing, but I'm trying to start. I just put 12k into a Roth IRA (6k / 2019, 6k / 2020), and I'm trying to figure out what stocks / ETFs / Mutual Funds are smart ideas.

I'm 100% fine with risk, because I'm not gonna pull from the account for decades, but I feel lost on what's a good or bad idea. So far I've got 3k in a S&P 500 index fund and 3k in a large cap growth index fund. I'm mainly basing investment on how much funds / stocks have grown in the past year, but I know that's not a good indicator of future performance. Thinking about investing in foreign funds, in case Chinese markets take off? And maybe in small funds? Also I have some money in crypto but I'm not sure if a publicly traded crypto-related stock is a good idea, like GBTC or something?

I've got a day job so I'm not trying to buy / sell individual stocks that require micromanagement, mainly looking for long-term buy&hold strats. Am I off to a good start, or is there anything I should be looking out for / doing differently?

>>16903565
Thanks, Lori.

NATTY GAS SWEEPSTAKES!! Place bets on how low natty gas will go. Friday's close was 1.99. The historic deep low is 1.57. Will we hit that low again? Will it find support earlier?

Post guesses! I am thinking a quick dip in to 1.80s then rebound back to maybe 3.

>>16903652

1.965
you were already told this information yesterday

>>16903525

This is a Peruvian scissor-dancing board.

>>16903609
If your idea is to invest and not having to think about it that much, then by all means go for etfs and just forget about future/past performance. Just dump money there every month and forget about it. Anything more complex than that requires "micromanagement", if you wanna call it that way. Picking the right stocks and buying/selling at the right time takes time, skill and a stable personality. IF you do that right, you can squeeze an extra 5-10% each year. It's not for everyone. I'd go with the etf route, no foreign markets.

I prefer picking and managing my own stuff, but I admit it takes a huge amount of time to do it properly.

>>16903667
1.89

>>16903652
No idea but I’d huff the natty gas of that anime girl

>>16903574
Just reading 10-K.

>>16902395

Does anyone know the answer to this one?

>>16903676
Thanks for the info. The dream is to hang out at home, write code, and have a stock ticker on a separate monitor so I can manage my stocks every day, but right now there's just not enough hours in the day. I'm totally comfy investing solely in large cap etfs, because those seem the most diversified / most consistently profitable, but all these 'portfolio creator' things recommend keeping 5% in bonds and stupid shit like that, which seems to me like pure stagnation. I guess they're there in case American markets crash, but if that happens I figure we've got worse problems.
Okay I'm gonna pump more into big boy etfs.

>>16903652
friday was the bottom, weekend gap up

>>16903717
isn't the dream to invent intergalactic space travel and impregnate every girl on earth?
or at least multiple domesticated catgirl wives?

>>16903727
no gap
tight open
no serious buy pressure yet

wtf do i buy

>>16903566
You just cant beat it.
>>16903556
>I’m not even a racist
Its 4chan, my nizzle
>>16903609
If you really just want to fire and forget, but also accept to have some "risk", invest in emerging markets. There are special ETFs for emerging and even less developed places (Frontier markets? No?).
Diversify and spread your money. I would put 50% in US/EU stuff and the other 50% just in some ETFs that cover Asia and Africa.

Chase your dreams, gentleman.

Life is worth living (probably)

>>16903609

You’re doing good, excellent start. I’m up 30% doing exactly that over the past two years. Granted the markets will correct at some point but they’ll go right back up again to higher highs after that too. Keep it up and maybe have some money on the side to play with and speculate. There’s some lessons about the market and yourself you can only learn by making and losing money that way.

>>16903749
Well duh, that goes without saying.

>>16903770
that pic is depressing

>>16903756
Yeah I've been meaning to ask if emerging markets is even worth it.
I hear of its great potential but its historic performance is disappointing, as has its performance as long as I've held. 15% of my portfolio is outside the US (5% each for total global/developed only/emerging only - yes there is a ton of overlap). Been considering dumping the emerging only aspect for a while now

>>16903868
The US is currently in overdrive. QE literally prints you money if you invest in stocks, but I doubt it will last forever.
If you want to micro just a tiny bit you could put it all into the US only ones for now and sell them when you feel the tide turning. Then sell that and put it into safer places/gold/whatever for the panicbux.

If you literally never want to care then spreading it is more desireable.

>>16903844
Because every single outstretched hand is holding a phone? Because they're all living life through screens rather than looking at what is right in front of them and enjoying it in the moment?

>>16903952
I miss lighters at rock concerts. Now it's all cell phone screens. Not as good.

Reminder to do your dd on sava. Altough this entry price is higher, than what would have been preferable, the insider buys and current cash on hand makes makes me think they can go through their phase3 without substantial dilution. Check their presentation, then their current phase2 endpoints. Also check crtx, they have cognitive data in a similar scenario, which has implications for sava as well.

>>16903952
That's whats wrong with society now, well one of the things, at least. Everyone is glued to the phone. No one turns the shit off. Hell they're making a big deal about it even during the upcoming impeachment trial.

why to invest in stocs just before the mega recession? FED prints money and the money goes into bonds and stoc marcet. Bonds go negative and stoc marcet crashes. Then why to invest into them?

>>16904021
When is the next SAVA pump scheduled for? I would imagine more insider buys or news, any idea when?

Pray for GALT.

>>16904053
if the stock market crashes, sell your house, sell your kids, sell one of your kidneys and buy back in with every dollar you can get....

>>16903952
It might also be the fact that those girls look like middle-aged traps.

inb4 >girls

>>16904053
Just sit on your ass and wait then, I can bet my left ball that you will be too scared to buy in when the crash actually happens though so it doesn't matter what you do

>>16904053
what do you mean "why"? to make money as long as the party lasts, of course. Then you get the fuck out and wait for the right time to get back in. fuck bonds btw, anything but bonds. Buy gold, guns or real state if you want to migrate your portfolio into safer pastures.

>>16904053
If you would have bought QLD in the height of the market in 2007 you would still be up almost 10x

>>16904062
Their updated presentation has some pipeline. It's coming faster than i anticipated back in december. Topline results expected in mid 2020, but publication, more buys, grants, whatever can come in the meantime making a later buy more pricey. A paper is expected in first half 2020, that can have a big punch. Even some chinese phase3 on alzheimers made it into nature.

can someone fill me in why nvidia hat that drop back in 2018?

>>16904184
SAVA to 50?

>>16904410
Market correction, almost the entire market corrected back in 2018

How does this guy feel today?

>>16904600
Lord god i'm saving that one

>>16904600
let's hope the anti-trump people who have any money in stocks do the same now so i can buy cheapies

>>16904458
Very likely this year. But 100 is probable next year if phase3 financing is sure and nondilutive

>>16904053
>Mega recession

Where did this meme come from? Where is the inflation? No recession has every come about on heels of 2% inflation.

When inflation gets out of hand call me. Are we in a bubble. Sure. Have earnings stagnated. Maybe a little, but the banks are doing pretty good this month. Is unemployment down? Yes. Are wages up? Yes, if only slightly.

I really think this bitch might have a good two or three years left in her. The issue is going to be how much of a fucking killer the recession is going to be come two or three years time.

>>16904087
>, I can bet my left ball that you will be too scared to buy in when the crash actually happens
I'd say that -50% it's a good buy
you can also average down DCAing.. you don't have to buy everything.. the marcet is an always developing creature there are no fixed rules

>>16904101
>Then you get the fuck out and wait for the right time to get back in
will you have the time to do that?

>>16904716
>Where is the inflation?
there is no inflation at the moment because everything goes into bonds
don't you see?

>>16904676
What about SAVA to 200?

>>16904812
Long term is a bit speculative. Phase3 will probably need a longer treatment, and full plan on how to take the pills, depending on their blood based biomarker product probably. My issue is, that i don't know what happens at the cellular level, when the drug is in the system long term. Some unforeseen toxicities may arise for example. I'll take a deeper dive into their chemistry focused papers sometime, to figure things out. The answers are probably there though, just a bit more time needed on my part to decide if i go all the way

>>16904727
What do you mean -50% is a good buy? Kek'd. Do me a favour, go to an S&P500 chart on the daily and look how many times the market seemed to be recovering during the 2008 financial crisis. It recovered 15-25% back-and-forth, one time it recovered almost 26% over a period of 2 months before dumping another 30%. If you invested back then you would realize that you can't predict any kind of bottom in the market, so sitting there waiting for 50% is just retarded.
Averaging in however is something you could be doing, but will you? Considering you're this scared now, are you truly ready to invest and probably be in the red with your entire portfolio for months or maybe a year? Do you have a plan ready where you're suppose to average in at? Do you have enough money ready to make DCA'ing worth it? Probably not.

Any bros on HOME? Have you seen those juicy gaps?

What are the best robotics stocks to invest in in the long term?

>>16904739
what is a stop loss

Bored as hell so I took a nice trip through my porn collection. Finally watched a few GDP videos with that ex mtv star. All I can say is with a body like hers no wonder she wound up knocked up at 16.. All natural tits to.

>>16905087
just buy QQQ or QLD

>>16905125
>stockarmor.com
when a stock hits a certain level, a market sell order is executed automatically. Its like an eject button

Lost so much money on Friday, I hate myself sooooo much!

>>16905087
I like IRBO.

>>16905648
this one seems cool
i have like a mental retardation where I would much rather have a stock with like .49% dividends over one that has no dividend. I just like watching my position passively increase over time, even if its completely insignificant
thats why im big in MSFT over other tech blue chips

>>16905211
>my porn collection
Is this still a thing? I used to have a porn collection way back on my computer but ended up deleting it because I never went back to the shit I downloaded, I just kept looking at new stuff online

So whats going on with ontx and snss right now?

Should I sell Blackstone (BX)? It's been on an incredible run lately.

>>16905872
yeah they were busy starting world war 3, thanks for that anon

>>16905872
just creep your stop loss orders up and let it ride

>>16905792
Well I've had mine for a while. started it 20 years ago. With torrent sites,links,etc all failing it kinda makes it all worth it. I finally stopped on Dec 31 of this year. Not due to lack of space but due to all my favorite stars retiring or getting close to it. Also the bis itself has changed a hell of a lot.

>>16905835
Well ONTX did a paperwork error about the last offering and the nasdaq bean counters got offended. Sent ONTX a nice letter. Don't effect the stock or company any. But people read the first line of the letter and panic sold. The stock kinda recovered during after hrs.

>>16900339
Take profits. AMD is doing great, eating Intel's lunch, etc. But the stock has run up 50% since last ER, P/E is sitting well over 200, and I've never seen a stock go into earnings with this sort of parabolic upward momentum rally or gap up even more even after a blowout earnings.

In my opinion it hits 55 pre-ER, meets or slightly beats expectations, big dawgs decide it's priced in, and stock dumps about 15-20% back to mid to low 40s. It will consolidate, refill the gap, and proceed its move to 60 through the spring.

AMDchadtards don't want to hear it, but smart money isn't buying at 51, when the spring discount sale is days away.

>>16905916
I'm married and all but I mean hell we're talking about 20 years of my life here. Be real tragic to just hit delete. So I never told the wife about it when we got together and later when we married. Got it on a hidden share so nobody hits it by accident.

>>16905916
>>16906028
Jesus.. kek'd. Well whatever works I guess

>>16904716
What if inflation is higher than it's being reported?
What if inflation suddenly spikes over the course of a month?
What if unemployment suddenly spikes at the same time inflation goes up 3-4%?
These are the scenarios being faced by countries with low interest rates. Europe is facing the possibility right now. America is likely to see this happen without intervention. The Fed is going to have to decide if they want to raise rates to stave off inflation when unemployment is rising. Just as the Fed decided to lower rates as u employment dropped (which wasn't criticized but goes against everything we know as appropriate monetary policy). They saw the stock market react to higher rates +tariffs in 12/2018. Now tariffs are mostly absent as a market risk for now, I bet inter st rates go up. I also bet unemployment won't stay this low forever.

Should I fap to yugioh girls or pokemon girls?

>>16905979
Thoughts on nvda? Intc?

>>16903392
I LOVE THE STONK MARKET

MR. ROTHSCHILD SAYS I'M HIS FAVORITE GOY

>>16906258
NVDA dove hard at the end of 2018, its in less treacherous water now but still idk. intel is struggling in the prebuilt market and theyre joining the GPU market at the absolute wrong time, so i really dont know...

Tech is too good
Fake tech like wework and uber BubbLe

Get real tech and ur good

Trying to short or time is rolling the dice

Buy real tech. Get good returns
Avoid app tech

>>16906315
Thoughts on ampere hype
How priced in is 7nm ampere launch

Im personally trad

>>16906324
tqqq is probably my favorite combination of letters in existence right now. Aapl close behind.

>>16906331
Trading for a big 2020 performance once ampere gets fully priced in

Rtx was an outlier prod

>>16906259
Becoming financially independent is the least goy thing there is, goy

>>16906324
pretty much desu, its a lot easier to do things that way

>>16906346
Is there anything that prevents people from just saying they're jews? If someone says you're not a jew, just accuse them of antisemitism

>>16906342
Googl is gonna have a big 2020 and has had too
Waymo is finally spooling up
If a hedge fund ix spy the fuck out of their detroit ramp up factory

>>16906324
>>16906361
personally I just go boomer-tier and go balls deep into SPYG

>>16906346
Financially independent by investing in digits in the New York Fed's basement

GET A LOAD OF THIS GOY

>>16906429
Compare that to working in a factory for your entire life, slowly tearing your body to pieces and not even getting close to being financially independent at the age of 65 when retirement hits. But hey, that's your choice

>>16906429
Its one of the easiest and low risk ways of making legal returns, not even hard once you get some bigger numbers. If you can't beat them, join them.

>>16906429

There’s no escaping the jew. The only real way is fleeing to the wilderness and no one has the balls or skills to survive that way anymore. I’ll go out and fuck a fat chick and goto work for the jew tomorrow.

>>16906429
all the goverment does is set out the field, and we play ball
you might not agree with some of the political and economic philosophies of today, but if you fail to take advantage of the opportunities by way of protest, you're only hurting yourself

Some fuckers have all the luck. No bullshit someone bought a used couch and found 43,000 stuffed inside. They returned the money though to the couch's original owner. Not me, hell I'd have kept it all.

If I buy a GE call can I sell it as quickly and easily as stock? Like if its worth goes up to 0.50 can I instantly just sell for 0.50

>>16905897
If you can't beat the Jews, join them?

>>16905900
This is a good idea, but I just decided I'm going to sell out now. I think there will be better opportunities in the near future.

>>16906510

As long as there’s a buyer yes. Wouldnt fuck with options until I had a firm grasp on at least the fundamentals of them though.

>>16906499
>returning money to retarded criminals

>>16906468
>not even hard once you get some bigger numbers.
Exactly, the first million is the hardest one

>>16903410
why?

>>16906528
With volume as high as GE's why wouldn't there be a buyer, r-right?

>>16906541
once you get to 100K you can easily return 15-20K a year even if you're not that good. Unless you want to live a real lavish lifestyle, you only gotta keep it going for a few more years and you can relax some

>>16906258
Nvda buy

Intc boring, sell. It has floundered here at 60 for too long, no conviction. It should be 70 by now, but the co. is losing its grip with no turnaround in sight. Basically, it has become a full on blue chip safety play in a sector full of high growth, high beta, high sex factor gems. I used to be a proponent of it, but I just can't recommend anymore.

>>16906545

There’d likely be a buyer if the price was right. Like anything else there’s gonna be low ballers though. If it’s worth .50 everyone’s going to be wanting to pay .48 . Don’t get greedy if you luck out and go green take the profit and run. Unless you’re very smart or got some insider info blind options buying are more or less just a gamble and easy way to end up empty handed. Ideally you want to own the shares and be the one selling the options.

>>16906585
Thank you, that's good info. I can't afford actually buying the shares yet, but I got an itm call. Since GE is a utility and usually goes down Fri and up midweek the odds are good it won't crash and I can make at least a bit of money. But we'll see

>>16906560
Yeah, but there's still risk involved. When we're talking about trading, 100k is still a fairly small amount if you're aiming big. But when you reach the million mark you're gonna risk like 0.05% of your account each trade and come out with more money in a month than the average person does in 6 months. The more money you have, the more money you get

>>16906641

Np good luck man

>>16906499
the people who "find money" in fantastic amounts are in on a criminal conspiracy. Like the people who "find" valuable artwork that missing for decades.

Why are ETF holdings different among every site?

Is the official ETF site the most accurate?
https://ark-funds.com/wp-content/fundsiteliterature/holdings/THE_3D_PRINTING_ETF_PRNT_HOLDINGS.pdf

Both say updated 1/17 but have totally different holdings %

https://etfdb.com/etf/PRNT/#holdings

Filings Data as of: Jan 17, 2020


Is there some official place to get the "real" ETF holding %?

>>16906219
Yugioh girls are for patricians. Pokemon girls are baby's first crush.

>>16906801
the Poke-moms alone trounce the entire Yugioh lineup
and they aren't even to top MILFs in the series
what does Yugioh have?

This is why I trade bitcoin. It's so pure because it's 24/7, the way it tests levels is just.. nice. The perfect thing for traders when the market is closed

>>16906801
Didn't they age up Misty? I haven't cared about Pokemon in years but grown men with Mistylust is fucking weird.

>>16906829
>old hags

>>16906839
Just when I wrote/posted it bitcoin blasted off. Speaking of bitcoin, we need to have an exchange like Bitmex but for the traditional markets. What I mean by this is that if for example AMD has pumped like it has, people that is long will pay funding to shorters and vice versa obviously. That would have been great

>>16906843
When I was a kid, I had a crush on sabrina. When I was older I was surprised and disturbed by misty obsession.

>>16904410
Here's my bear thesis.
>The broader market has made new highs, NVDA hasn't.
>MSRP has steadily increased while demand from crypto mining decreased in 2018.
>AI and autonomous driving remains a meme.
>RTX is a meme.

>>16906331
Will this year's refresh include a non-RTX model at launch, on 7 nm, at a reasonable price and unquestionably outperform AMD's current and future lineup? If the answer to all of those is yes, than back the truck up and load up.

>>16906874
not a damn thing wrong with anime MILFs
the young girls in pokemon have high quality, quantity, and variety as well

>>16906933
those are memes, but they're good memes, not fake memes
NVDA at equal weight

Man I'm so comfy right now. But I want summer and that's 5 months away, fucking Scandinavia

Fuck me!

>>16907448
ouch wtf

thank me later

>>16907530
Up to $2 from .70 less than a month ago. Any projection for short and long term?

>>16907448
>This is your portfolio.
>This is your portfolio on options.
>Any questions?

>>16907448
oof you get R/Sed on?
>>16907626
idk i dont really have any projections its a long term hold for me currently, they were supposed to do their earnings report last week, but instead they pushed it back to be released with their conference call. I was initially worried cause pushing back earnings isnt usually good but then the next few days the letter from blackrock ceo about investing in sustainability and microsoft coming out and saying they are planning on investing 1 billion dollars into erasing their carbon footprint it made me feel like it was all planned and fuecelll is gonna announce a huge partnership with microsoft during their conference call

>>16904410
GPU sales went way down after bitcoin glut and used market glut

>>16906933
AMD is aiming to have their own ray tracing support.

Not a meme. Id expect all 7nm ampere to be RTX supportive except they very low end.

>>16906429
If you dont want to be the goym, you have to become the jew.

>>16907801
When has it been rescheduled to? Might actually be a great thing to get into

>>16907921
this wednesday


https://investor.fce.com/press-releases/press-release-details/2020/FuelCell-Energy-Announces-Regaining-NASDAQ-Compliance-and-Fourth-Quarter-and-Full-Fiscal-Year-Financial-Results-Conference-Call-on-January-22-2020-at-10-AM-Eastern-Time/default.aspx

>>16907801
>letter from blackrock ceo about investing in sustainability and microsoft coming out and saying they are planning on investing 1 billion dollars into erasing their carbon footprint it made me feel like it was all planned and fuecelll is gonna announce a huge partnership with microsoft during their conference call
You realize what a reach that is? How desperate it sounds?
Nothing against the company, maybe they’ll have a great ER. I wouldn’t expect that to be the reason.

Unless they’ve been known to work with Microsoft or Nadella has been seen with the CEO of Fuelcell or something.

>>16908085
>>16907530
did you not even look at the picture I posted?

is GM the most defensive stock in the US? its just gone sideways since it was floated

Am I the only one who thinks that this whole "carbon footprint" thing is a meme gone wrong?
You can't just pretend that pollution is a one-dimensional subject... how many other kinds of truly insidious pollution are created in pursuit of carbon neutrality? The way I see things, it's just a way to pretend to be environmentally friendly.

>>16908119
The best defense is a good offense.
Going sideways is a terrible defense.
You want good defense? Buy good stocks. Many very good stocks went up 50% or 100% in the last couple of years - that means you are well prepared for a downturn.

people who think that things like no-growth companies and cash are a good defense are just deluded. IMO

>>16908109
Interesting, you should circle Microsoft and FuelCell energy in that third pic

>>16908142
There’s a million variables to chase after, but flexibility is probably worth emphasizing. Maybe we’ll sacrifice a certain amount of clean water to offset some carbon emissions, but later on we’ll end up having to generate a certain amount of energy to desalinate some drinking water... along the way though we're improving our technology and ability to do such things. Problem is, you never KNOW what the ultimate limiting factor is. If it ends up being clean water... some people are going to die before we can fix it. If it ends up being carbon... a lot of people are going to die.
Or something like that. Who the hell knows.

The ESG thing I thought was a meme, but maybe younger millennials and gen zers will actually choose to work for or invest in one company over another because of their environmental impact.

That is something boomers would never do.

>>16908208
The world will improve massively in the future.

Just because of boomers being gone. Not all are terrible or anything but for the majority of the world it's the worst generation.

>>16908246
I could give you a bunch of reasons to be hopeful, and a bunch of reasons to be scared. Let's just hope for the best and do what we can to make it happen, while hedging against dystopian futures by accumulating wealth and developing ourselves.

>>16908298
>I have multiple degrees
Seriously though, are there any kind of statistics out there about the people complaining not being able to get a job? I know for a fact that young people with no prospects are being told to get a liberal arts and general studies degrees because "it's better to have a college degree than not have one at all". Considering useless degrees like liberal arts is in the top 3 most popular majors in the US right now, isn't there a connection here..? Or are all young people complaining? Proven to have degrees in nursing, accounting, engineering, etc etc..?
I have a feeling MOST young people complaining about not getting a good job have shit degrees that the employer doesn't give two shits about. I base this on the fact that the friends I have all got a job pretty fast and they don't have shit degrees

>>16908483
Experience and connections are super important.
like if you graduate with just an engineering undergrad and nothing else (no internships, no connections, not a female) you might have to spend a lot of time applying for jobs and cast a wide net (be willing to relocate).
I don't know exactly how it is right now in 2020, but so many things are dependent on where you are and what you're applying for.

Especially on the internet you will see plenty of anecdotes: there will be people saying "the job market is great for fresh grads" and people saying the opposite. And they might both be correct, depending on where they are and what sorts of graduates they are talking about.
You asked about statistics: for the same reason of complexity, it is easy to generate "headline" statistics for either side, depending on how you frame things. There isn't one simple statistic that will show the employment situation for the whole country...

No matter what, once you get into an industry and get some experience it gets 10x better, compared to being a fresh grad with no experience.
I graduated with a 3.0gpa engineering undergrad. I wasn't even location bound, I was applying for jobs all over the country, and I didn't even get interviews except from personal connections.
I ended up getting a nice job and doing really, really well, to the point where I am one of our best engineers in my role worldwide. But I could have pretty easily not had a job at all, without a referral .

>>16907291
I know the feel. This week my region in Canada had six straight days of -25 C and below. The weather system just broke this evening. That felt like an entire winter concentrated in one week.

Long weekend /smg/ is even greater suffering than usual. On the plus side, Baggie is drinking one more, so we're probably good for at least one rambling twenty-post rant.

Coolest business clip ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAlCbE-yCTw

>>16908936
wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLySXTIBS3c

>>16908913
Kangz day isn't even a real holiday. It's weird markets are closed for it. On the other hand, I'm jealous of an extra holiday in January. Leaf country has no such thing. There is one in February but it's a made up nonsense one added to reduce the suicide rate during peak suicide season.

>>16908913
>no monday
>no movie night
what more can they take from us at this point

>>16908936
>I might be early but I'm not wrong-
>IT'S THE SAME THING!
A lesson for bears everywhere. Of course, Burry got away with it here, but in general the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

>>16909070
I'm sure there were countless others who got liquidated just a few days too early. Probably some of the investors who killed themselves during the GFC were bears who were too early.

>>16908648
I hear in Alberta it was -40C and -40F

>>16909070
When has the stock market ever been irrationally bullish?

>>16909107
is this a serious question?

>>16909000
fun fact, this movie inspired legislation because the duke brothers werent actually breaking any laws at the time
https://econlife.com/2013/08/financial-regulation-the-eddie-murphy-rule/

>>16909101
>I hear in Alberta it was -40C and -40F
Possible. It didn't get that low in Calgary but maybe Edmonton or northwards. I experienced -40 a few times as a kid in Saskatchewan. Feels like nature is quite intent on trying to kill you. Even -30 is enough to send any sane person running back inside within three minutes.

>>16909144
>is this a serious question?
Yes
If you bought at the peak in 2007 you would be doing fine now

>>16909187
yeah but by no means does that show that the bulls in 2007 werent acting irrationally

>>16909220
If you had a long term time horizon it was absoluting rational

>>16909107
You're kidding, right? Every crash is proceeded by a period of irrational bullishness - that's what inflates the bubble. In fact, the crash itself isn't what damages the economy, it's the malinvestment that occurs when people think it's impossible to lose money, and that every single investment is a good one and will go up forever.

How old were you in 2008? Do you seriously not remember?

>>16909220
>>16909220
So, how can we know what's going to happen now? The current world is completely different with technology.

If you are looking at technology value in 2030+ and where we are now. How do you decide to "time" it. Is google going to go bankrupt in a recession?

>>16909257
exactly, the recession drops are illogical. People selling on short term prospects for no reason. It's basically just a big short term irrational game of chairs for who can get it out and get back in with good timing.

>>16909268
>people think it's impossible to lose money
If you bought at the height of the market in 2007 you did not lose money

>>16909278
personally i dont try to time the market. Google could implode in the next 10 years - probably wont, but could. Stranger things have happened. Just look at the failure of the Stadia. On its own didn't move the needle any, but failed experiments lead to cash burn which leads to poor decision making.

>>16909347
You lost time - years of it. Time is money. Therefore, you lost money.

>>16909347
what is opportunity cost
what is retirement schedules
what is peoples lifespans

if your money was tied up in recovering investments for 10+ years you gave up that buying power for an entire decade, how is that a happy ending?

>>16909359
But you have made a healthy return just because you could have done better does not mean it was irrational

>>16909390
Oh, it's retarded

Happy GALT day, kids

>>16909390
If you invested in a company whose stock went to zero, you lost money. If you bought corporate bonds from a company that went bankrupt, you lost money. If you owned shares in a bank that was "bailed out," you lost money.

I mean, what's your argument, exactly? That the index didn't go to zero, and therefore every valuation contained therein was justified? That's obviously false. Even with ETFs, which might conveniently hide the losses from easy examination, you suffer from the same losses. A company that fails falls off the underlying index, and the ETF loses money. A new one is added to replace it, and that costs you money too. Malinvestment is bad, period.

>>16905087
probably anything that is coming out in Japan. Japan is trying to speed up robotics the most because they will have fewer workers in the future. My company is already using a Yaskawa robot to keep up with the global demand.

>>16908596
Yes, but more than this, even with referrals it can be a shit show.
My best offer through connections as an engineer was $45k/yr. I kept sending out applications and landed a job that had a $88k/yr base entry-level salary in 2019. Jobs are a massive shit-show since it also pigeon-holes yo for your next job. I almost ended up designing safety rails for construction sites and instead I'm in semiconductor design at a F500.

On topic for /smg/
Thinking about selling puts and trying to pick up shares on the cheap for the airline companies posting earnings this week. I think they're going to take an oversized pounding for the scheduling issues stemming from the MAX grounding and with the news about more software issues, they won't be able to issue favorable guidance related to getting them back in the air.

>>16909484
BULLISH
>BULLISH
BULLISH
>BULLISH

https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/thoughts-on-the-market-garner

>Japan now has a higher labor force participation rate than the other advanced economies
>female participation in the workforce is significantly higher than the US
>immigration is picking up
>Deflation is reversing: wages, prices, and employment are rising

>CapEx is the highest it's been in 20 years (indicating that Companies/CEO's are much more optimistic--something we haven't yet managed in the US)

>steady improvement in dividend payouts and share buybacks

https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/japan-equities-turnaround

However... interest rates and pic related

>should had bought in when it dip last week now it jumped 20 percent at the end of this week and seems to still heading up
ffs I knew I should had just went with my gut feeling instead of holding back.

>>16909705
*10 percent

>>16909586
wait hol up
I want to clarify, you are talking about selling puts *after* they report earnings and get wacked?
My opinion, you have to be careful with that kind of trade.
Firstly the current level of MAXX groundings should be priced in somewhat...
Second, if multiple airlines drop after earnings, momentum might keep them going down/sideways until the trend reverses. So throwing some short puts into the mixx might not be free money, if you are writing mid durations/close strikes to get premium.
just my thoughts on it

only other thing that I can think of in regards to airlines is the Chinese (Wuhan) disease screening thing could cause some small measure of FUD. It's been in the news recently.

>knock knock

>>16909672
heh, sounds like we all agree...

>>16903429
Held XAR for long term and have 42% gains. Still, I would only hold DFEN for a month or so max

Honestly, I'm kind of spooked about what the fed might say on the 28th. Valuations are very high, and the Phase 1 trade deal kind of soothed some of the fears FOMC iterated on when they lowered rates. I almost feel like the drone assassination in Iran was intentionally done to stir up some volatility and encourage the fed to not change their interest rate guidance.
The fact that everyone and their mother has bought into the 'dump-everything-in-index-funds' advice has tied everything in lockstep; you can't really pick something that won't move with general market sentiment.

How do I deal with the fact that LITERALLY EVERY STOCK feels overpriced at the moment?

Let me explain.

>Start trading in August 2018
>Check prices of stocks I have in my aim everyday
>The prices they had in August 2018 end up feeling like "price 0" to me.
>Anything above that price with no reason (es. big company growth, decreasing p/e ratio) feels overpriced
>In the same way, everything below without good reason feels underpriced

This is causing me some serious problems for finding new stocks to invest in. Am I crazy or seriously everything is crazy overpriced right now?

>>16910267
They would have to see material changes in the evidence. Do you think there will be enough data to convince powell and co. that the economy is heating up and inflation is rising?

Don't forget, he's been talking lately about the target of 2% being an average, meaning they actually WANT to overshoot 2% somewhat to balance out the less-than 2% inflation we've had for years.

It's always wise to be cautious, but I don't believe that's where the next danger will come from.

>>16910267
>Valuations are very high
nah

>you can't really pick something that won't move with general market sentiment.
nah

>>16910296
let's imagine that you are at least 18 years old
do you remember 10 years ago when a can of coke would be like 60c, and now it's $1? are you going to never buy [product] again because the price is higher than it was at some time in the past?
of course not
stocks are like that, but even better: a can of coke or a bar of gold or whatever is the exact same as time goes by, but over time the companies that you can invest in might earn even more and become more valuable.
almost all stocks cost more now than when you were born. For most of them, they cost a lot, lot more. If the fact that stocks go up over time prevents you from buying I don't think I can help you...
If you want to buy assets that decrease in price over time, you will want to screen for bad stocks (earnings declining) or commodities or currencies.
if you are looking at stocks the fact that the value goes up over time is core to the whole proposition!

>>16910302
It just feels wrong that restaurant companies like CMG have P/Es of 80+. That's just one example that I recently saw today. I'm going to stay invested but I'm also sitting in cash and bonds (about 50% in equity).

>>16910333
Look at any stock price from November 2018 to January 2019, fucking retard

>>16910333
>10 years ago when a can of coke would be like 60c

A price increase in 10 years is completely fine, but right now everything is increasing in price way too fucking quickly. What the fuck, having a p/e ratio of 50+ became completely normal.

>>16910350
>>16910361

>CMG have P/Es of 80+
>having a p/e ratio of 50+ became completely normal

Bro, I'm scared too for the same reason. And what's worse I get the feeling this will keep going for at least 1 more year.

>>16910361
nah
tell me what the overall US stock market p/e is

>>16910350
>Look at any stock price from November 2018 to January 2019,
valuation is based on price per earnings, not price

>>16910350
The P/E ratio of CMG does not indicate that the fed needs to raise rates. CMG has proven amazingly resilient even when they have health scares, and management has shown a willingness to try new initiatives that have been working out well for them. I haven't tried their carne asada or used any of their drive throughs, but from what I understand people love it. They're one of the few QSR's that are growing fast, with a loyal base of customers. I remember them being big 10+ years ago, the fact that they're still in growth mode is impressive, and likely why they're getting so much attention from money managers.

I know the feeling of not being able to buy because it was cheaper when you first became interested. This is one of the things that has cost me a great deal of money because I didn't buy back in to apple, and didn't add to my stack of LMT and LHX.

But chasing is also a dangerous thing to do. Ultimately, you have to try different approaches and you'll likely lose some money doing it. Sometimes you will pay too much. All you can do is diversify and buy slowly.

I'm getting the sense that there is so much money on the sidelines because of people like you waiting for a dip/correction/crash. Because of this, we may be in a relatively overbought state for many months.

>CMG

Does bill ackman still own a large chunk of this company?

*fards*
*shids*
*cums*
heh sory bout that boomers

>>16903392
At this stage in the game, I think stonks is riskier than crypto to get in right now
But wth, buy SPCE

Daily reminder that ESG investing outperforms.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2699610&mod=article_inline

>Out of 2,200 studies on ESG, 90% show either a positive relationship to Corporate financial performance (CFP) or at least no-negative relationship.

Rate my portfolio. Does SPCE have the potential to be more than a meme?

>>16909586
>designs semiconductors
>wants to buy airplane stocks
Bruh, do I need to paste the SOXL pasta again?

last time I am saying this: buy HOME

>>16906258
I sold mine at 248.

Will definitely scoop some up again once/if it hits 210-215 or so.

What do you think of Nokia? They stopped giving divvies and they lost a lot.
Now they are on their way up again and develop 5G for a lot of places.

>>16910942
Very strong better than 90% of the moronic shit posted here, I am very bullish on SPCE, could hit $400

Best YouTube channels for learning TA?

Crypto taking a big oof right now

>fuck around with options like the dipshit I am
>Didn't know about stop limits and was checking them nonstop
>Within 3 weeks lose 45% of my total amount
What I felt when I learned about stop loss made me want to bash my nuts with a crowbar

>>16911694
>absolute bull market
>decide to up my risk for a single play
>spy has worst day in ten years

>>16908596
Yeah you're probably right. But I still think it's a bit of both, because I doubt the pink haired morons screaming about jobs doesn't walk around with engineering degrees. But you have a valid point when it comes to referral, since that's a massive thing in my country aswell and can put you infront of the herd with ease.

>>16911502
Rejected a monthly level, back down to 8300 and continue up would be nice. Or break 8300 and continue to death, doesn't matter kek'd. I will get paid twice a day just by holding crypto while its dying so I'm okay with both scenarios

>>16911694
Why did you not just sell with a normal market order when they dropped below a comfortable limit?

>>16903410
This
>>16904053
>mega recession
Oh no it’s retarded
>>16904184
I’ll be joining you after the SNSS buyout brother
>>16911502
They should have bought SNSS

>>16911811
You have to go back

>>16911808
I work nights and I was a greedy fuck

So greed and stupidity.

Fellow TA frens, good entry point for IRBT?

>>16911811
Eye balling some cheap calls for April. 5 dollar loss is nothing right now

Fcel has am earnings call on Wednesday and they've had a pretty good increase in the past month. Worth it? I got fomo bad but then again what goes up must come crashing down to feed some puts

>Hey I want to make money trading the market, let's see what this is all about
>Candle patterns? Sure, makes sense
>Fibonacci? What the hell is this nonsense? Hold on, it actually works...
>Elliot Waves? This is the next step huh...
>Harmonics? I now understand the natural order of things, I am one with the market, the market is the universe, we are all God...

>>16911878
Placing orders between 53-52.20 with a stop loss at 51.65, 1.8% risk. Might just fill the gap at 53.40 though, but that's what I would look for

>>16911870
Gets the best of us. That and impatience.

Monday gonna be green

>>16912099
Dubs confirm

I'm new to the stock market with a few thousands that I could invest. I thought about buying Tesla stocks as some experts expect them to get to 5000$. Now they are at 500$. Should I or is that stupid?

>>16912099
No US markets. So probably just some crab walking
>>16912112
Do your own research. The amount of people here who gained with Tesla is probably close to the amount that shorted and lost money.
Next to Biotech Tesla is ptobably the most random stock right now because of the hype.

>>16912112
And then Musk tweets some random shit and the stock dumps to 200 or something.
You can make a bunch of money with TSLA, they have a lot of momentum as long as they have the reputation of being the only company capable of EV with autonomous driving.
But you can also lose big.

Honestly too risky to tunnel-vision into them.
ANYTHING can happen.

Should I buy tesla right now?

>>16909672
Time to invest in Japan?
Why are they welcoming immigration though

>>16912057
Thanks for your opinion brother. What about HOME?

>>16906219
>>16906801
>>16906829
>fapping to weeb
>ever
there are alternatives, but it's not something the jedi would teach you about...

>>16912300
>Welcoming immigration
Doubtful. Japan has always been an insular culture obsessed with keeping their traditions and keeping out foreign contamination. You get one Minister suggest raising the immigration limits from 1,000/year to 1,500/year, and suddenly every headline in the lefty press is screaming "Japan Embraces Immigration, And That's A Good Thing."

They don't want to admit that the Japanese model is a viable alternative to globalism. They'll publish a thousand articles about how population decline is causing GDP to fall, and not a single one about how GDP per capita is rising at the same time, even though it's clearly the latter that had a bigger impact on quality of life.

>>16911908
>>16907530

>>16912621
Just bought 2 stocks, to the moooooooon!

>>16912406
You had the higher low play earlier at 5, now it's too hard picking a good spot that is not a big risk trade. What is obvious though is that you want 5.50 to hold for bullish continuation, but we could wick down to 5.40 and close above 5.50 on the daily and that would be considered a hold. So.. it's up to you. Honestly you want it to hold here and continue higher, maybe place a long at 5.94 with a tight stop loss at 5.86 because if it holds here it will most likely test the local highs again rather than going down and re-testing the monthly at 5.50.
I don't know though, too jumpy and bearish for me to trade

>>16912721

>>16912500
The original phrasing was “immigration is picking up”. Japan isn’t in danger of being flooded with immigrants, and the robot workforce isn’t ready for all the elder care that’s going to be necessary.

>>16912753
Whats your opinion on gaps? I see a significant one from $8 to $5.50 recently and a massive one from $17 to like $10 some time ago. The market usually fills those, right?

>>16910333
>imagine actually believing this
Pretty much all stocks are overrated, tech stocks are even a greater bubble

Someone should explain options to me

>>16912984

>>16913028
Google it yourself you lazy retard

>>16913028
Someone should also secure our existence and a future for our white children but we can't have everything we want now, can we?

>>16912984
Oh my god he might be on to something...

Quick! Everyone! Let’s invest in pharmaceuticals! Take the PILL pill!

>>16913062
Eh

AAPL $400 by EOY. Cap this.

be patient with GALT, management there isn't as bad as it may seem at the moment

>>16913285
This seems totally possible. And yet I sold in the low 200s and have been waiting for a chance to buy AAPL or MSFT ever since...

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

you should probably never sell your mega caps.

>>16912858
There's different kind of gaps and all of them doesn't have to get filled. Trading gaps is not always something you should aim for since nobody knows WHEN the gap will be filled. A gap might get partially filled before continuation down for months if not years depending on the health of the stock(company). For example, if price breaks 10.50 on HOME then it's expected that price will fill the gap and reach the strongest resistance in that area before finally retracing. We saw a perfect example of this on SAVA recently. That's usually when you're suppose to look for a gap play, when price does a break-out and there's a gap to fill. But if there's a gap to fill like 150% above current price then just ignore it for now.
The problem with gaps are also the fact that price might move several percentages above the gap fill to strong resistance before retracing, so placing your short orders at the end of a gap fill will most likely stop you out. Again using SAVA as an example, price moved way past the gap (almost 20%), so sure it counted as a gap fill but looking at the price action and knowing how to locate support/resistance would have done you more good than only looking at the gap.

Hey /smg/, i didn't want to open a new thread since the issue is about "stocks" in a company, so i'm just gonna ask here.
First of all, i have zero knowledge about stocks and market or anything like that, so if i say retarded stuff then forgive me.
My question is, am i legally prosecutable if i happen to own "shares" from a company pursuing a Pre-IPO business model which, unfortunately, is actually a pyramid\ponzi scheme?
Say they bust and get sued into oblivion\end up being investigated, am i accountable or prosecutable if i own those "fake shares"?
I didn't buy shit, one of my boomer relatives used my personal information to set up an account with my data, but used his own money to buy those "shares" from the upper members of the pyramid.
What's worse, he's actually putting people down me and further increasing the pyramid size.
That company doesn't have anything in terms of personal information like SSN or my own bank coordinates\stuff, they were given my full name and surname and nothing else.
Will those (likely boomers again) laic retards sue me once the pyramid falls and they realize they wasted money because, technically speaking, there's my full name on those shares?
Can't i just deny everything? I could claim it's just a namesake and not me.
Thank you, sorry for the dumb question.

before stock markets open tomorrow i'd like to add some additional info to >>16872711
NET_B has 5 of the top 10 "best slot games of 2019", and their recently acquired company red tiger has 2, so thats a grand total of 7/10
>https://slotcatalog.com/en/read/news/The-Best-Slot-Games-of-2019
pennsylvania online gambling increased with just over 10% from november to december 2019
the stock price has basically been flatlining since early november 2019
i honestly think that now is a really good time to buy in, but who knows

>>16913398
>relatives used my personal information to set up an account with my data,
Sounds fine.

>>16913422
I don't understand internet casinos. Then again I probably carry a genetic aversion to addictive/compulsive behavior.

>>16913398
>am i legally prosecutable if i happen to own "shares" from a company pursuing a Pre-IPO business model which, unfortunately, is actually a pyramid\ponzi scheme?

If these shares are actual stocks that can be traded on an exchange, then the quick answer is no. Simply owing common shares insulates you from personal legal obligations brought on by a corporate entity you have equity in. Your equity value will of course suffer from any and all bad decisions they make, but the law isn't coming after you individually.

>>16913482
retards gamble away all their money and companies make great profit
NET_B is a developer of games and sells/leases them to online casinos etc, in turn they have i think a 25% operating margin

>>16913422
>NET-B
Jeeeez first we got the Canada shills trying get us to invest in their mining and leggings companies, now we got Swede-shills...

Missed the past 3 earnings, and at first glance the financials last time looked pretty unappealing.

If you have any leads on the next Mowi... now that’s something I’d like to know about.

Morning fellas. Is today a fap to pokemon or yugioh girls kind of day?

>>16913365
What to expect from GALT in 2020?

>>16913544
Bro. Do you really have to ask?

(You’re the pokemans poster arent ya?)

>>16913376
Thanks fren, I appreciate it. Will see how it plays out. Got in at 6$ for a short term play, let's see.

>>16913398
>>16913499

>I didn't buy shit, one of my boomer relatives used my personal information to set up an account with my data, but used his own money to buy those "shares" from the upper members of the pyramid.

That being said, your identity has technically been stolen and this could lead to further abuse that might eventually get you into trouble. But that depends on how sociopathic your relative is or how he/she or will act or has already acted.

>>16913066
>>16913028
No worries, I'll do both!

An option is a contact either to sell shares (a "call") or to buy shares (a "put") from the owner of the contract by a certain date. The owner of the contract can choose whether or not to execute the context, this they have the "option" of exercising it or not. Because this is advantageous, the buying of an option must pay the water off the contact a little money for it.

The money paid is called the "premium," the date the contract must be executed by is the "expiration date," and the price agreed to buy or sell at is called the "strike price." Contracts are typically written for 100 shares at a time, so remember to mentally multiply the premium by 100 to get the price you'll actually pay.

>>16913544
>Pokemon girls (monsters) or Yugioh girls (monsters)?

Can someone explain why this guy didn't purchase more? Why is he just sitting on his cash?

Is he not the genius people say he is or does he know something we don't?

I'm a retard with about $38k in cash and $16k in stocks bought over the course of 6 years and I have no fucking idea what to do with my cash except let it rot away to inflation.

>>16913554
new CEO/CMO, expansion of providence trial, start of NASH-RX trial
also possibly BO/partnership, but I wouldn't tell anyone to count on that as a reason to buy into a company

>>16913624
Does the premium differ?

I wonder is TSLA PUT anon is still alive.

>>16913634
He’s a value investor. Look into that if you want to know more.

He wants to make big plays like buying entire companies when they’re undervalued, and right now there’s a lot of people willing to pay up such that they would no longer be undervalued.

This is the best mutual fund I've ever found and I literally can't stop making money

Basic vs Custody profile on DEGIRO. Which one to take? Or is there a better/cheaper custody broker?

>>16913726
expense ratio is 48 basis points. you'll be better off holding VGT

>>16913640
Percentage of making it to wageslaving it?

>>16912500
>You get one Minister suggest raising the immigration limits from 1,000/year to 1,500/year, and suddenly every headline in the lefty press is screaming "Japan Embraces Immigration, And That's A Good Thing."

To be technical a 50% increase would indeed be a large increase.

>>16913643
Significantly. The price of an option depends on many factors. (We'll just talk about calls for now; puts work the same but "backwards" in a sense.)

Firstly, the strike price. Remember, a call is a contact to buy the shares at a given price. If the underlying stock price is lower than the strike, there's no reason for the options owner to exercise it - he could just buy the shares in the open market and save more money. Therefore, the option is worthless - what's called "out-of-the-money," or OTM.

However, if the the stock price is higher than the strike price, the call is valuable (because it lets you buy 100 shares for, say, $17.00 rather than $17.14 - you could then turn around and immediately sell those 100 shares and pocket a cool $140 in profit). This would be referred to as being in-the-money, or ITM.

(Con't)

>>16913849
>>16913726
Never looked into VGT before. It's a really strong fund. I have some holdings in SPYG but I might need throw some dosh into VGT.

Pic related

>sony released bad boyz for life specifically on martin luther king weekend
Fucking lmao, genius marketing already paying off bigly. There is something hilarious about urban youths celebrating their independence by watching a movie about two black guys causing a mess of LA.

>>16913886
give it 2-3 years for the results of the providence trial and the NASH-RX trial to come through, and the stock price should be multiples of its current value, assuming the drug works

>>16913904
So, obviously, an option that's ITM is worth the difference between the stock price and the strike price (this is called the option's "intrinsic value"). An option that's OTM is worthless. But this is only true at the moment of expiration.

Prior to expiration, there's still a chance the stock price could increase above the strike price. This is uncertain, of course, but the possibility exists, and therefore had value. If there is a long time until the expiration, then the chance of getting to the strike price is higher, and thus the value of this chance likewise higher. For this reason, this component of the value is called the "time value," or sometimes the "extrinsic value" (to contrast it with the intrinsic value). Longer expiration = more time value.

Buy SNSS

>>16908142
Yeah, did you see the movie dark waters?

Everyone is being poisoned by that to and much more. But the truth is the average consumer is a raving idiot and anyone can get away with anything.

Index funds are investing in your premature death and stuff like concentration camps in china, liquidating the middle class, and debasing the culture with cheap immigrant labour.

If you were so stupid to sleep walk through life without knowing any of this, why wouldn't you think AGW is a meme?

Ignorance is bliss. A lot of happy ppl out there.

>>16914170
I was actually just about to watch that movie.

>>16914001
So far, we know that the difference between stock price and strike price determines the intrinsic value, and the amount of time remaining to expiration determines the extrinsic value. There's a second factor involved as well, though.

If extrinsic value depends on how long the price has left to rise, then it also depends on how fast the stock price can change. By way of counter-example, imagine a theoretical stock that never changed value at all. Clearly, time to expiration wouldn't matter at all - no matter how long you waited, stock price would never reach strike price. By contrast, a stock that changes value very quickly is very likely to reach the strike, even if there's only a little time left to expiration.

This third factor is called "volatility." The amount that a stock has moved in the past is called the "historical volatility." Because the price of options changes based on supply and demand (or another way to say this is based on "market sentiment,") the price of the option on any given day implies an amount of future volatility that could be higher or lower than the historical value. This is called the "implied volatility."

Implied volatility is a convenient number because it tells you the one aspect of the option value that isn't know. Strike price and expiration are fixed values. Stock price changes more or less randomly. But implied volatility is the market's current "best guess" about how the stock will behave in the future. In general, if the IV is higher than the historical volatility, the option is comparatively expensive, and if it's lower than historical the option is a bargain.

>>16913985
>assuming the drug works
Probability?

>>16914170
is that a movie about sharks or nah?

>>16914231
I would say that given the drug's previous results despite the very flawed and poorly designed trials it's been tested with in the past (the NASH-RX trial doesn't have the same issues that the NASH-FX and NASH-CX trials did), the probability is pretty high, but nothing is absolutely guaranteed, the risk of a drug not working is present in every clinical-stage biotech out there
The NASH-FX trial especially was horribly designed, they used a dose that doesn't work (8 mg/kg) and only treated the patients for 4 months
The NASH-CX trial was flawed because the trial also was too short, used the 8 mg/kg dose for one of the treatment arms, and didn't distinguish between compensated and decompensated cirrhotic patients
The NASH-RX trial is long enough, uses the 2 mg/kg dose which has shown positive results in the NASH-CX trial and the 4 mg/kg dose (which is likely the optimal dose based on pk testing and the results of their early cancer trials), distinguishes between compensated and decompensated cirrhosis patients, and is adaptively designed to allow the company to optimize the design of the trial as the early results come out

>>16914368
Nah. Use a search engine

>>16914389
Ya I looked it up
I stopped using Teflon pans for anything back in 2018 so I think I'm good
:^)

Bezos-pill me on AMZN

>>16914410
>I think I'm good
We're all already beyond fucked

>>16914428
His wife is now one of the riches people in the world. Oops, meant to say ex-wife.

>>16914377
Sorry Pendy I had to dump my GALT. I wanted to make sure my SNSS position is as big as possible ahead of the 400mg data.

>>16914467
Like a vast majority of women in this world. Like 95% on the list of world's richest females all got rich from divorce or inheritance, kind of sad. But ay, he cheated on her, she was cool enough to make sure he kept his vast power in the company and what not, so.. ye

>>16914512
What happens if GaLT day is this tuesday and GALT is $35 in one hour? What would you do?

>>16914547
I would continue to leave my money in SNSS and say "Oh well, missed that one.". You can't get caught up on every massive pump that you miss or you'll go insane. I've already missed a bunch where I sold too early.

>>16914553
SNSS to ____?

>>16914410
>>16914170
>Hear "Dark Waters"
>Think either "Lady in the Water" or "The Shape of Water" every time

>>16914467
>>16914527
He did okay. Not sure why everyone makes such a big deal out of it, she was a Princeton educated hedgefunder, daughter of a "financial planner" who sat on the board of Amazon and was by Jeff's side for 26 years... Seems like she had business in her blood. She wasn't a trophy wife, and was probably an asset that helped the company out.

People grow apart, and they were smart enough to do it amicably, and not draw things out in an angry public display.

>>16914576
>princeton educated hedgefunder
damn jhst like bezos

>>16914568
No idea. I don't want to make some kind of dollar prediction like LCl guy and be like IT WILL BE THIS MARKET CAP MARK IT
CALLED SHOT.

I will say, their management team was very excited and got a lot of meetings at JPM, so if 400mg data has 1 PR, 2 easy. 2 PR, 3 easy. Many PR, 8+. 1 CR, 20+. In any of those scenarios, buyout will follow in mere weeks after the data is released, likely by Abbievie if I were guessing, for 1.5-2.7 billion.

>>16914590
That isn't to roast LClguy btw I just don't like being on the hook for speculation with insufficient info.

>>16914590
>>16914602
i feel like i can follow the potential of LCI just given the product, but what's happening with SNSS?
only news i can really find is something about extension of compliance until july.
am i new so sorry if common repeat, i just need to know where to dig or what the edge is.

>>16914455
I think everyone else is in a tough spot, yeah.
I'm going to make it.

>>16914625
The potential? Vecabrutinib is the BTK inhibitor with the best safety profile. We're talking second line Oncology drugs that are being gobbled up really fast by big pharma. If it shows any remission at all it's a massive fucking payday, and the BTK inhibition was close to theraputic at 300mg. 400mg data is right around the corner and with how excited the management was at JPM I think they've already GOT efficacy. Basically a ticking time bomb of money. Look to ARQL, LOXO, APTO, these are competitors, and what has happened to them the past year or so.

>>16914647
I see, so they're still in their trial and development phase?
I'll look into their competitors, thanks for the info

>>16905979
>tfw nearing +300% on AMD
I've missed on every dip since buying in, not gonna miss another

>>16909013
> Kangz day

Based and Redpilled.

>>16914656
Yes it is a small market cap pipeline biotech stock.

>>16909672
>Immigration rates picking up
>More women in the work force.

Yeah, I think I am going to move my money out of Japan.

How long until the church becomes tradable.

>>16914512
your choice, depending on the timing of the data, you may be able to get back in without missing out on much
the nearest term catalyst with GALT would probably be a new CMO and/or CEO, which I am personally speculating would come some time in the spring

>>16914843
I will buy back in if I hit on SNSS, which I believe is highly likely. Galectin-3 matters. It matters a lot. I think the focus of the mgmt has been on the wrong aspects of why it matters and that has fucked them. But I am still long term bullish on GALT

>>16914898
the old management made a lot of mistakes, but I think the new management has been getting a lot done behind the scenes, even though they don't have much to show for it at the moment

>>16914656
>>16914647
>LOXO
>bought up by Eli Lilly
>Took Loxo's management and had them start up a biotech team inside Lilly
seems like they had a lot going for them beside the drug.

Damn I want to buy more LLY

>Pembrolizumab
>Vecabrutinib
>Aducanumab
>Abiraterone
This shit is ridiculous and I have no idea how people keep it all straight.

>>16914952
V is for Victory fren

>>16913471
>>16913499
>>16913603
Alright, thanks.
The relative has been dealt with already.
The company still has my full name and surname unfortunately, but i don't think they can do anything with it.

>>16914979

Good luck with that anon. No one should have to go through that.

Pharmachads, thoughts on ONTX?

>>16913499
>>16913603
Actually, those aren't valid stocks.
It's a pyramid\ponzi scheme masked as a pre-ipo investment that will never see the light nor go public on the stock exchange.
Their intention is to pay people back once they go public, but that hasn't happened in 10 years, and will likely never happen.
I'm worried i'll end up getting caught up in the eventual shitstorm when the fake scam company will collapse and everyone will either be investigated and prosecuted.
Maybe i should get a lawyer.

>>16915045
what company is it tho

>>16915065
Some russian backwater shitty company that promises massive returns in exchange for joining and fueling their pyramid system of investors.
It's pretty obvious the investment is ridiculous and will never go anywhere, but i see quite a lot of people buying into those "fake shares" thinking they will get extremely rich once said company goes public in the stock exchange.
It's a ticking bomb, and i've been dragged into it for no fucking reason but the blatant ignorance of a boomer relative that has no experience with computers nor money management.

>>16915090
just sell your shares to someone else and move on
become the pyramid, anon. become the Pharaoh of the nile
sell a billion shares to a million boomers and then hit the yacht club for lunch

>>16915104
Alright, thanks.
It's funny because those aren't actual shares, they're literally nothing but monopoly money, "credits" they use in one of their websites.
It's not even taxed, you're supposed to buy into those "credits" and eventually set amount of credits will give you a set amount of shares once, again, they'll go public.
It's absolute fucking madness.
Keep your grandparents out of the internet.

Are futures opening today as usual or does MLK day preclude this particular outcome?

>>16915144
you should introduce your grandparents to cryptocurrency

>>16915159
You wouldn't believe me if i told you i actually saved one of them from a crypto scam.

NEW NEW NEWNEWNEW

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>>16915185

Well just switched to the newer Capitalone 360 performance account. Used to have the older 360 savings from the ING days. The newer account boasts a nice 1.7% interest v.s the older 0.60% and both blew my primary bank's savings (0.15) outta the water. Yeah I know the market will give me a much higher return but when you can get a higher rate at your bank and it don't cost you nothing you'd be a fool to turn it down.

>>16915220
robinhood gives 1.8

>>16915045

Okay that changes things as this isn't the traded common stock of a publically-held company available via an exchange. In those cases, common share holders have protections from corporate maleficence and neglect.

I agree that you will want to get some legal advice on this one. Especially, if you don't know what legal agreements your relative agreed to when they created a relationship with this company. If you're lucky, the relative is nothing more than a sucker who will get their money stolen by these crooks and have no further legal obligations. However, by providing them money, the relative might have also agreed to become a "partner" or "co-equitor" with the company through whatever agreement they initiated when the money was handed over. Thus in the eyes of the company and the law, the relative (bearing your name and details) may not just be a simple venture capitalist, but someone with a greater liability.

So, you'll want to learn whatever information you can about what happens to someone, legally, once you give them money and create a presence/account with them. It's not so much that you initiated this, but to many including: the company, its creditors, people who they may be ripping off, the people in the pyramid down below you, the law, etc. you *appear* to be the one initiating this. You'll want to get out in front of this one as soon as you can and see what you may be legally obligated to (if anything). Along with that, also learning what kind of reputation hit you *could* take in the worst case scenario from any of the above parties.

>>16915044
Slow burn down to .20, will moon after weak hands sell all in despair

>>16903392
Is Gamestop dead? Will the new console releases for late 2020 save this company? I'm reading a lot of people stating it can turn it around for one final bull run...

>>16915732
Save? No...
Live long enough for a massive short squeeze? Yes.

>>16915279
I see.
Thank you kindly, anon.