/biz/ - Business & Finance

DDD

one more day for my meem bank account.

>>16829948
what's your trading strategy and how much did you make over the past year? clearly we need to hear from a guru such as yourself.

Sell options spreads during earnings

Futures open in 1 minute. get ready

S&P /ES futures opened at 3269.25 up only slightly from the Friday close.

Another week of the Trump economy. Damn it feels good. Green arrows for all.

/ez @ 3262 in a few hours

>>16829985
Start tapping on the card to go up some spots. I think you have 1731 taps in you to make it to the top

>>16830008
no response? not surprised lmao, opinion discarded.

Green green green

Thank you President Donald J Trump!

Reminder to work your abbies!
Investing and trading requires a strong gut.

>>16830027
isn't that exactly when you should be holding strangles on hyped and hated stocks (AMD, NFLX, retailers, etc.)?

>>16830179
>opinion discarded
Should have been the very first thing to do.
>doesn't even look at the source
>makes stupid assumtions
>gets most of it wrong
>Why aren't you rich then?
Typical shitposter

>>16830202
Yes, strangles are good with high IV and liquidity at earnings, then you close that shit the next day or start rolling options if shit has gone very bad
You can also do iron condors, or make a directional spread if you think you know where it's going.

>>16830202
God I wanna kiss those legs

>>16830210
hey i gave him a chance at least.

>>16830027
>>16830202
>>16830239
can you guys go into more detail or point me towards some good videos in regards to the best way(s) to use options to trade earnings? i already know about EarningsWhispers (god there are so many good resources for all sorts of things financial out there, entirely for free too. only learned about EW a month or so ago. it's really just a matter of putting in the time to look for them).

im currently focused on automating my scalping strategy which i hope to have completed by the end of the year (will probably have it before that, i have some coding experience already but have never made something this serious before). my plan is to make enough money from that to pay my bills and then any extra money i have left over i can invest manually into high probability swings setups, which earnings looks like a good, repeatable one. happens multiple times every year with regularity. setups like this would be over a day or week and i would manage them by hand instead of automatically since it would require a lot more FA instead of TA.

I laugh at everyone who panic sold last week. We have banished all fear and doubt. The golden bull will reign forever.

Tomorrow I will buy Boeing and capture a 1% move

>>16830480
yikes

>>16830454
Won’t lie I sold off my 360c BA 1/17 but still holding 44c twtr 3/20

>>16830480
1% everyday and you have more than lost crypto fags

anyone on DDD?

>>16830049
where do i see these?

>>16830454
>I laugh at everyone who panic sold last week
What if I panic bought instead though?
>>16830621
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Are you all Chinese, gooks and Japs or what? Why have you got anime images in your computer and post it ? This is embarrassing.

Will Uber go up or down?

>>16830700
how would anyone know that?

>>16830706
What about BYND

>>16830719
Up.

anyone have that dividend calendar?

>>16830734
I want to enter, what pullback can it see?

>>16830008
Damn who bitch is this

alright, who has the info on earnings?

>>16830700
Can’t see Uber doing good long term. Grub is a better bet.

>>16830686
This is an anime basket weaving site you retard.

Would you say Tesla is THE electric car game in town? Their growth is a little too much for me, and wonder if bad news or competition would bring it down just as fast. There are other companies starting up electric cars and I wonder if it would be good to get in now or would they only be attempting to play catch up to Tesla. Thought?

>>16830829
Tesla understands their customer better than anybody else thus, yes, they are THE electric car game in town and shall remain so.

tell us about your recent losses in the market, /smg/. hey, they can't all be winners, all that matters is being profitable in the long run.

>>16830909
I do not experience these "losses" you speak of cuz SOXL is the answer. Face it. Semiconductors are crack in all but name. The desire for newer, faster, more is insatiable. Computers, GPUs, self-driving electric cars, AI enhanced smartphones, medical devices, microcontrollers, networkinging gear, machine learning, surveillance, infrastructure, military, the list is endless. No matter how many cores, how fast or efficient, demand requires bigger, faster, cheaper, and better. The clamor for fresh silicon gives nary shit for national identity, creed, hue, gender, asshole virginity or other vain conceit; the multitude speaks in singular. The plea: semiconductor.
SOXL couples a single ETF entry point with the the best companies the semiconductor space has to offer then pushes these already stellar returns to the limit with 3x leverage, all responsibly managed via daily rebalancing to boot. SOXL aligns your economic interests with powerhouses like Nvidia, Qualcomm, Intel, Broadcom, Micron, Texas Instruments, Applied Materials, et al. Real tech companies with innovative products people want, not """tech""" """companies""" pushing shitty ads.
In the last 7 years, SOXL has exploded over 42x yet still we are early. Semiconductor growth will proceed exponentially until every viable space is saturated with it. This is a fait accompli; the sheer number of interested parties and obviously compelling outcomes make it so. The injection of increasingly compact and efficient sensors, microcontrollers, information processing, and storage into everywhere and everything will be this era's seminal revolution, a revolution with SOXL holders planted firmly at the receiving end.
Stop waiting for the "pullback". Where we're going, fretting over a few dollars is meaningless. The deliberation is over; waiting is a failure mode. Now. Buy it now.

>>16830829
American car companies are so poor that Tesla can easily compete with them and outperform

>>16830931
>American car companies are so poor that Tesla can easily compete with them and outperform
>American car companies
>Tesla
Anon, I..

>>16830936
God you're fucking stupid. Stop posting here.

>>16830974

>>16830909
opened a brokerage account on new years day and im yet to have a loss. its only a matter of time though, once one of my mico cap exploration miners fails to deliver i will get JUSTed beyond belief

>>16830829
Look at market share

Tesla is #1

>>16830829
>doubting Elon

>>>/ck/13500522

Market research into DDD, looking like a breakout 2020

Is SPX going back up?
I am scared by all the recession posts

>>16830829
It’s not even about cars. Their tech which is separate from their spacex is what drives the price.

>>16831135
0.5 mon
0.25 tue
Green mon/tue

>>16831135
It's been going up since 2009 and yes it will continue
Central Bank of Japan printed 150% of GDP in the last 10 years,
Japan government debt close to 300% yet they are still close to zero inflation and they say they have a lot room to ease
Switzerland printed 100%+ of their GDP in the last 10 years, imposed negative rates of -0.8% and their currency just got stronger
What makes anybone believe that the Fed which prints US$ - the world reserve currency cannot get to those numbers?
Current balance sheet is just 25% of GDP
But because the US$ is a reserve currency they can probably sustain 100% of the world GDP which I believe is around 80 trln
Yes it seems crazy but get back 10 years ago and think about what we have now - it seemed totally crazy that central bank will monetize federal debt
So in our lifetime this charade can easily be sustained
They will just print 1 trln per year maybe increasing this number 10% per year. It will get stocks 10-20% per year growth on average indefinitely

>>16831169
What makes you say that?

>>16831186
what about mid-term
you see all the sharp drops in between right

>>16831207
We've been in a bull market more or less for the last 200 years. If it dips and you are at least 15 years from retirement Buy More(TM). For extra gains go with leverage with SPXL/UPRO/TQQQ/SOXL whichever makes you comfiest

>>16831190
Early week/news momentum on anticipation of good weekly earnings and sighning

Wed and on will be more risky

>>16830859
>>16831091
>>16831107
>>16831156
Tesla can be dubious though. They advertised their cars to get free charging, then sales went up so they started charging, sales stayed well enough and charging price was increased, then sales slowed down and they started doing free charging again. Certain gas powered cars are cheaper off the lot and are able to get comparable priced mileage as Tesla when they charge for their stations. I feel like Telsa could lose their grip just as easy as blockbuster or Myspace did when someone else comes along with the answer to all the grievances people have.

>>16831240
Nah tsla 1000

No more name calling.

Please be nice, pumpkin spice!

>>16830239
When IV is high, isn't a big move already priced in? Don't you want to buy while IV is low and you expect it to go higher? ...while also minimizing theta so you don't decay to death. I have no idea how to do this I need to learn IV crush.

>>16830930
take the PILL pill or dabu with LABU
But make your profits quick and get the hell out. Bernie could be right around the corner with a basket full of cheapies, and you want cash for buying that dip. If there's any oncology/pharma details in this trade deal... we could be in for a hell of a week.

>>16831207
Volatility is nothing new and is to be expected. That’s why you should try to have a job and always have cash for dip buying.
>note that this is a logarithmic chart and is probably very flawed, I did not make it.

>>16831186
>Japan says they have lots of room to ease
They’ve been more hawkish lately, didn’t announce any intended rate cuts at their last announcement. Kuroda and Abe are trying to get businesses to increase spending, i’m Not sure what’s in store for the jappies. JPM just downgraded jap equities, another firm was saying the possibility of a mild first half recession followed by some gains into the Olympics and possible reacceleration. I’m long the Nikkei, and am growing concerned.

They also lock updates behind paid DLC.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-model-3-acceleration-boost-update-price/

>[skidrow]telsaupdate.exe

China might have a kpop concert soon

This is a huge red flag on china economy

>>16830909

Chickened out of buying EA when they were sub-$100.

Chickened out of buying AMRN the first time it fell to $20 before going back up to $24.

Chickened out of buying BYND when it fell to $72.

December was a bad month.

Roll call

VIX calls this AM Market open

Iis china re-evaluating terrible relations strat?

softening on skorea, taiwann election, signing phase 1, maybe they will realize hard nationalism turns off relationships

>>16831300
Correct, you sell options when IV is high. Around earnings, for many symbols, IV ramps up high to earnings, then falls off a cliff after earnings, which means you can collect some quick and easy premium...unless the stock absolutely shits itself in either direction, then you gotta look at minimizing losses/rolling them out

Reminder tomorrow GALT buyout will be announced. This is literally your last chance and probably the only time you’ll be let in on easy money.

>>16830202
the best thing about having nice abs is sharing them with ur friends
;^)

>>16831315
why is it a red flag

>>16831462
this is true

>>16831406
they are just trying to trick you so that they can infiltrate your house and steal your candles.
don't let your guard down.

>>16831506
They tried to bully skorea over thaad by banning them

>>16831528
man what is that supposed to mean
I don't think the economy or markets are going to be significantly impacted by whatever it is that you're talking about. If you think that there is some massive thing going on you're gonna have to explain it some more because I'm a retard

What's the script for monday?

>>16831572
Its capitulation from a hardline stance

Another thing I'm looking at, is who pays for accidents that happen with Tesla autopilot? I can't seem to find an answer on cosmetic/mechanical damage or potential injuries that need to be paid. I would be shocked if Tesla would be willing to take that responsibility.

>>16831588
driver, it's assistance not autopilot yet, you are responsible.

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=39932

The Korea Tourism Organization (KTO) announced on Jan. 7 that 5,000 executives and employees of a Chinese health food and equipment manufacturing company in Shenyang will visit Korea on incentive tours for six days until Jan. 12. This is the largest group of Chinese tourists since 2017 when China banned group tours to South Korea in the wake of the Seoul government’s decision to install the U.S. Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system.

Korean duty-free shops and cosmetics companies, which had been heavily dependent on Chinese tourists, have been in a long slump since the ban.

>>16831586
I don't think that they are as rigid as you think. Chinese leadership has been very fluid for the past several decades. They might talk tough sometimes, they might ban things or wave their boners around, but at the end of the day they do what they have to do.
They are only ideological when it suits them, they've been pragmatists for a generation at least.

>>16829950
I hear "buy and hold forever" as common advice in the stock market regardless of single stocks, funds, or ETFs. However, isn't the point of growth stocks to sell them off for retirement?

Ain't shit happening right now so here's a red pill so everybody can know who actually moves the markets. It isn't the retail trader, we're just along for the ride. Pic related tells the story. I know everybody here is a market wizard who already knows this stuff but in case we come up in google and some newb reads the archived thread on 4plebs

>>16830909
For some dumb reason I decided to park my cash in oil and mining stocks before going on holiday last year. Came home and was >10% down. Still bagholding to this day.

ACB is dropping like a rock. Time to buy?

>>16831616
Become immortal

>>16831988
my 2020 new year resolution:
not falling for any more Canadian stocks
nope
nah
fuck that
They tricked me once, they tricked me twice. But that was old me. This is new me. It's a new decade now

For the muh diversification, how do you guys even go about picking all the "safe" stuff like bonds and whatnot? I just realized I did hours and hours of research to select my stock etfs, and didn't even think about the other stuff until now

>>16832150
I can get at best what, 6% with bonds or at worst 20% with equities.

>>16832150
>picking [...] bonds and whatnot
wut

>>16832150

>>16830781
There is no reason for Aphria to report anything but weak earnings.

>>16831135
yeah

>>16832150
Dirt simple; bag an S&P 500 fund or total stock market fund and let it roll for 10 or 20 years. Add to it once a month or annually. Don't take my word for it; Buffet recommends doing it as well.

>>16831588
>>16831604

This. Any idiot who completely quits paying attention and let's the car drive for him should be held responsible, and is.

>>16830068
my calendar spreads are counting on it

>>16832006
Based.

>>16831988
sure, go all in m8.

god damn it, what stocks do I buy as a 28 year old who can put like 200 a month in, for long term gains and so forth

>>16832640
SOXL

>>16832640
VTI

>>16832439
> Once a month
Shit, I add every week. Just take it out of every paycheck and deposit. Better odds of catching a dip while still being passive.

>>16832644
It's not time

>>16832006
Well, if I have kids and then train them to passively invest and to roll over my investments into their accounts as well as to pass it down to their children then maybe a part of me can be immortalized.

Do any of you guys follow the yieldco side of renewable energy that much? I'm not talking the little no-name panel manufacturers, or Siemens/vestas, I mean like the big-ass companies who just buy up developments with REC contracts or other long-term contracted revenue and just take in the cash.

Stuff like TERP, Brookfield (BAM/BEP), and etc. I'm honestly thinking about just dumping 30k into one of them and not selling for 20 years because my gut tells me they'll be the ones left after all the small fish out-compete themselves to death. Even someone like NextEra will probably just end up absorbing tons of smaller projects to supplement its own utility-scale renewable development.

>>16832640
get a personal loan for $10k, put it all into high yield dividends and use the $200+dividends to pay the loan off.

I suggest you guys to check out NLOK. $12 dividend special soon, buy puts ~feb, calls for ~july.

>>16832771
wait nvm it's a cash dividend

MELT UP WEEK

GREENGREEN

im sad i sold friday

>>16832760
A little bit. In addition to the ones you mentioned there is also Ballard Power Systems. Don't all-in one company though. Split it between at least three so you're protected somewhat if bad things happen to any individual.

>>16832793
Seems like it. I looked over the list of earnings coming up and figure most of the big names should do fine. That'll put some confidence behind the buying for now.

Banks have had an excellent run into earnings, I don't know why everyone's so confident. Usually means expectations are high.
>>16832382
Isn't APHA the only weedies to ever beat earnings and rally off of it?

I have got a question on put credit spreads if anyone can help me out. Suppose stock ABC is trading at 50$ a share. Suppose we have two puts that expire on the same date, lets say the 60$ and 70$ strikes.

The 60$ put costs 10$ a share and the 70$ put costs 20.50$ a share, for the sake of argument. This is an arbitrage opportunity, isn't it? Sell the 70$ strike, and buy the 60$ strike. You will have to make at least .50$ a share (20.50-10). Do I have this right?

>>16832899
>Isn't APHA the only weedies to ever beat earnings and rally off of it?
Most have had good earnings rallies at one point or another. APHA's last earnings "beat" was a product of slippery, but still legal, accounting. The problem is the Canadian dudes are facing significant headwinds and valuations are falling closer to what these companies are actually worth relative to their assets and revenue. The growth isn't great for a variety of reasons. They certainly could come out with a better than expected quarter and pump 20% off that but I doubt.

>>16832815
why Ballard over other FC companies like Bloom or Doosan? What's their advantage?

>>16832949
I don't know much about the fundamentals of these companies. Ballard just has a bullish chart is all.

Canadian ceo took to twitter to blame trump for iran plane crash

Cia should execute publicly

>>16832962
I apologize on behalf of Canada.

>>16832962
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-13/canadian-food-giant-chief-blasts-u-s-for-iran-s-jet-downing?srnd=premium

Who here going dividends and immortality route?

>>16832964
While random women protesters fired upon, leftists need lobotomies for being so sick

>>16832969
I mean what kind of a retard do you have to be to blame the US for Iran's fuckup? Jesus.

>>16832956
Oh,right, sorry I forgot where I was posting

>>16830562
>27% in six days
>it's just gonna keep doing this
okay
you know you can do crypto and stonks at the same time right?

>>16832994

>>16832969
>>16832984
I love 2020 politics. Doesn't matter what happens to who just say trump bad and the masses of ignorant fools love it.

>>16832984
Same that had entire media praising china for being anti-protectionis for a year in 2017

HEY i know we like Biotech and gene therapy, but there are some good looking ones out there that have MULTIPLE drugs, some actually ON THE MARKET and POSITIVE SENTIMENT in the analyst community. I think this could be a good week for Biomarin or Regeneron.

Has anyone here done their homework on BMRN or REGN? Anything to get excited about?

(MRNA also got a lot of analyst bullishness back on Jan 2, and we didn't mention it at all...)

>>16832946
Welllll It would be nice if they pushed ACB up enough to get a put in.

>>16832976
>>16832984
We're in very ideological times. People hear one fact from their team and instantly believe it, and hear the same thing from the other team and get angry and say they're liars. I advise not to let yourself get angry, and to focus on making money and making life better for yourself and the people you care about.
>>16833001
Yes it's crazy, I blame Obama :3

>>16832439
If that is being used as a replacement for the traditionally ""safe"" things, then should it only be a tiny portion of my portfolio as if it were bonds? So just dump 10-20% in there and still pursue all my memes with the rest?

>>16830829
they're gonna get stung by the China shit sooner than people think, that and the coming correction in share price should be enough to cool the jets on any utopian prospects people see in them.

>>16833001
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Once CNN decided to run the story they chose to headline it as something like "Iran shoots down passenger jet with Russian-made missile". They then repeated Russia Russia Russia several times in the report.

>>16832973
Cute but no. Get rich or fail trying. Dividends are for after I have a bunch of money.

>>16833019
plz don't @ me about the Obama thing. My only point was this: But I've been around for a few presidential cycles now and this is more intense than usual, but also isn't really "new"

>>16833031
NO NO NO YOU... We can't have countries buying russian munitions. WE need to be building more BIG BEAUTIFUL F-35s and bombers and missile defense systems and "anvil" missiles and, and, AND FUCKING SPACE CRUISERS!!

Russia should not be getting to sell their missiles everywhere, every dime they get is money out of Lockheed Martin's pockets, and if ANYONE is going to solve fusion and make a giant leap in technology, Skunkworks is (probably) going to be the ones.

Russian missiles bad
US missiles -> utopian future

>>16831651
having studied the picture i've arrived at a conclusion

>>16833065
Based guinea. I love columbus even more now lol.

Anyone invest in any Black Rock iShares ETFs?

Judging by china softening on skorea and popularity crush in tw. I think any odds on phase 1 sighning should shift closer to100%.

Risky long mon/tue should be fine odds

>>16833081
This is the correct answer

If I already invest in a total market index fund is it worth it to invest in mid cap and small cap index funds?

I'm surprised no one posted the ONTX news. They announced they have enough funding to last until Q1 of 2021, which means decreased risk in investing so more people might be buying. In other words, will climb up presumably.

So no one's in BMRN, REGN, MRNA?

...That might actually be a good sign

>>16830745

>>16833082
You’re a sick sack of shit and will die a horrible agonizing death of cancer, slowly, over a decade, going in and out of the hospital, while the health system literally feasts off your body, all to no avail. In your final days, you’ll look into a mirror and see a horrible monster, no hair, eyes bulging out and just skin and bone, laughing at you. And the words “I love Columbus” will whisper out of your lips as your last breath, you disgusting sack of shit. Enjoy your sick care rape.

>>16833493
haha yeah death is pretty ugly sometimes.

That sucks for that guy, and it's totally possible, but what does it have to do with my stocks?

>>16833493
You are one of those spanish rape babies that are invading my country aren't you? Show hand.

>>16832973
I don't want to work so I only invest in solid dividend paying companies.

OHHHH FUCK THE DEBATES ARE TUESDAY

THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SHIT ON PHARMA AGAIN GOD DAMN IT

I might take profits in my IBB calls...
And dump my other calls/spreads.

This could get even uglier this week, I bought too many close-dated options. Last week was full of mistakes.

>>16832973
what the fuck?

What is the astrocyte of the stok markt

How risky are shorts really?
Every time I bring them up with my family or our CPA everyone gets this fucking shiver down their spine for some reason.
It still seems just like the basic certainty and uncertainty calculation oh, so your risk is only really how much you are uncertain * 2.
For instance Spirit aerosystems, ticker symbol s p r, had 50% of their work orders as the max 737. Not only that but the majority of their inventory are completed orders, hangers with planes that will never fly. They're the company that fired 2800 of their employees a few days ago.
All in all, chances are their share price is going to plummet. I would say I'm about 95% certain of it.
So why not short?

>>16833743
Macro trend is growth is why peoplenlike long

>>16833743
Aka if 10000 places to put money, going short is swimmming upriver

Why notbpick the best long

Basically harder to win shorting, so you need really good reason

>>16833763
Jesus Christ it's like people only play the cumulative interest and aren't aware that it is a multiplier of the years increases and decreases. They look at their 5% increases yearly with a 15% multiplier from the cumulative interest and they think they have it all figured out, never imagining that they could have portfolio increases of 200% yearly with a 15% multiplier, all because someone told them that there's only investment, there's no such thing as trade. People for some reason have no capacity to understand that they can sell assets simply when they are a higher value than when they bought them and they will make money.

>>16833767
>Basically harder to win shorting
how?
if SPR dips 30% in a quarter and you short it you make 30% on that money.
how is that hard to win?
it's literally money from thin air.

>>16833789
Ur playing against house odds (macro)

>>16833792
That's nonsense, you're only playing the stock that you buy which is a single company not the entire fucking NASDAQ. It doesn't matter what the macro trend is for the entire Market, this company is absolutely fucked.

>>16833796
Woosh

>>16833805
Apparently, I was asking about shorting a stock and you started talking about macro-trends. Did you know that businesses fail even if the economy is good? That despite macro-trends small businesses and even big businesses can fail and decline? Did you know that if you shorted that stock you would make the percentage it fell?
And honestly in a lot of ways shorting seems less risky as failure is a much easier thing to spot than success

What is macro trend
Up
Iifu go short ur playing against trend
1=1

>>16833814
keeeek logic

Macro trend is up he says
I wonder if he knows there's more than one trend?

>>16833814
If 55% of businesses fail, then on a random business u can short it and be with trend

Ppl want house odds

>>16833830
QUICK EVERYONE BUY SPR!!
THE MACRO TREND IS UP ACCORDING TO PAJEET!!

>>16833836
Yes your foundational probability is up

>>16833842
God damn you're retarded

holy shit SPX mooning

>>16833850
layer 1 = market trends up

Why ever fight this? Its a bad bet to short. If you can find a dud you can easier find a rocket

Ez

>>16833857
that’s so hot

>it's literally money from thin air.
hehe

You can absolutely make money shorting stocks, but this is a bull market so you can absolutely get fucked as well.
>multiplier with interest
are you talking about leverage?

No one is saying you CAN'T make money from shorting, but the trend is your friend, institutions, money managers etc. are long equities and many are just buying the indices, the fed is providing them with extra liquidity to do just that.

Just remember to keep your bets SMALL. If you know a lot about that company, maybe you know what you're doing. Make sure to keep a stoploss in case they announce something that would absolutely fuck you over. Maybe they get contracted with another company or the govt gives them some bailout, who the fuck knows. They could just get dragged up by the movement of the index because of ETFs.

You don't seem to understand what the other anon is saying, and that concerns me.

OH FUGGG FUTURES
IM THE GREATEST INVESTOR ALIVE
MY MARKET TIMING IS IMPECCABLE!!

Meet me here in 5 hours for coffee.

>>16831135
>not disregarding everyone else opionion but yours, be it posts, news, youtube videos or whatever
>not remembering that a) the world is 95% retards and b) the news are there to fuck you and make you both dumb and poor

ngmi.

>>16831528
>>16831315
I think it's a bull sign, if anything. China's gommunism is finally starting to show its true colors even to the rest of the world. It was never about making everyone equal but making a very select few people stunningly rich through lawless capitalism, slave labor and dishonest business ethics. The fact that they're opening themselves up means they'll have even higher gains while they gobble other nations up.

>>16831612
>They are only ideological when it suits them, they've been pragmatists for a generation at least.

this.

Quick question about trade exit strategy. I'll hit my target % profit very soon (30%) but the trend has not slowed down at all, it has picked up new steam if anything and I would hate to miss out on gains (I know it's impossible to sell at the very top, but hold on). I've read about taking partial profit and letting the trade run but I'm not comfortable with that. What do you think about setting a stop loss based on the lowest point hit by that stock in a month during a flash sell? This would secure 50% of my profits without closing part of the trade and enabling higher gains while riding the trend upward. If the trend continues, I'll set the stop loss a bit higher intro profits. I check on my stonks daily, so it's difficult to catch me with my pants down, so to speak. Trailing stop loss I use, but with short-term investments, I like to give my long trades room to breathe. Opinions?

>>16833876
I understand what he's saying and I appreciate playing larger and safer trends through intelligent investment and conservative risk aversion.
All I was asking and was really saying was that there's a lot of things that are far from uncertain that would be good shorts, using this company as an example that just had 50% of their work order is cancelled and 60% of their inventory turned into very complex scrap metal.
My question was largely just, why should I not short this stock, and you answered by saying that you can't really be that certain because you don't know if there could be some form of bailout or some unforeseen announcement that totally alleviates the drop in share price.

>>16830829
Tesla is here to stay. There's a lot of pressure to kill them, mostly from Detroit, but they managed a market penetration that's breaktaking when you look at how hard it is to launch not only a new car line, but a whole new company. I was in Alaska recently, and there are Teslas all over. Tesla is a long term BUY, nobody is even close to them in the big dogs of auto, and nobody could hope to compete starting from scratch. I would'nt go all in, but I have some socked away, that I'm holding long term, and thinking of adding to that stack this year.

>>16833922
What do you foresee in so far as a correction in their current share price after that latest Spike?

>>16831156
I just had a conversation about that with someone in tech - real tech, not web shit. They're convinced Elon's long play is the hyperloop, and the cars are just funding it and are the testbed for the tech. Tesla isn't the only company in the hyperloop race, but if they win even a fraction of it (and our government isn't stupid enough to block it) Tesla stock will go ballistic.
The cars are current tech. With guys like Elon, look at what he's talking about 20 years down the road.

>>16832640
Mutuals and the less risky ETFs. Get an account at Ameriprise or Merrill Lynch, send them a check every month, forget about it for 30 years. Long term like that is their bread and butter, they'll do it for you.

>>16833930
I don't look at short term, I'm not a day trader. If it bounces over the next 12-18 months, as long as it's a net gain, I don't care. "Current share price" only matters to my cost basis, and long term, I think the current price is probably a deal.
But that's if Elon doesn't fuck up, or they get a massive lawsuit, or they try a hyperloop and kill a bunch of people. But now that they've got their manufacturing running right, i think long term, solid buy.

>>16833983
Yep next number is 1000

What causes ONTX to crash all the way from 4000?

>>16834017
Caused*

>>>/ck/13500522
Someone from ddd posted in my market testing thread

Ddd is so legit a long

Are there any anons holding SWN right now? What are your thoughts?

When are things going to correct, guys?
Honestly. If this hidden hyper-inflation continues much longer, I'm checking out of society.
My 25 year old sister just bought a $350,000 shit shack. with 10% down. She probably makes $50K/yr.
3 years ago it would have been worth around $200K. In my eyes, it's still not worth a penny more.

What stocks are moonshots this week? Want some portfolio action

AMRN’s main competition just shut down trials (AZN’s “Epanova”) this is huge news for Amarin and in a rational world would send this back up to $25ish range

>>16830126
HEAR YE! HEAR YE!

Who wants to try and bet against the market this week?
>not me

Recession by Q4 this year, too many shitty overvalued stocks with absurd marketcaps. Plus boomers need to cash out

>>16834398
Not to mention housing prices have followed the overvalued stock market and not the working man's paycheck.
Astrology and past recessions (winter of a presidential election - look it up on wikipedia, list of US recessions) point to sometime within the next 2-3 months.

>>16834162
HHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHHA

YOUR SISTER'S A GODDAMN RETARD!

>tfw holding BABA

Is oil going to moon again or burn another cash pile of mine if I rake it up to pile there?

>>16834422
And so is my neighbor across the street who paid $300K for a flipped foreclosure that was bought for $120K, and God only knows how many others in this market.
I'm convinced they'll wake up one day this year and be 30% underwater and be begging for a bailout.

ALL OF US $AMRN fagbois may not need to kill ourselves after all!!!

>>16834485

I sold on Friday ><

>>16834482
We swim in a sea of mindless fools.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=century+of+the+self

>>16834485
>doubt

YOU PIECES OF SHIT
YOU FUCKED ME!

>>16833493
are you mad
indigenous people are for loving

>He bought VARTA stock

OH NO NO NO NO...

>>16834485
>oasis username

FOOKIN

BEST FOOKIN BAND IN THE WORLD INNIT?

>>16834701
looks like its had an amazing run though

AMRN looking pretty good pre-market after their competitor ate a dick

>>16834482
>>16834162
what sort of interest rates are these people getting? 30yr fixed or other type of loan?

>>16834556
(!)

>>16834727
I'd guess around 3-4%, but that's akin to saying 'you can afford this new car because it's only $300/mo!
Diverting $350,000 to a dumb roof over your head, in this case small 3 bed, 2 bath homes, is a horrible financial decision.
They've overvalued whether they're paying 10% API or 0% API and getting reamed in taxes and insurance along the way.

>>16834761
hey I bought a house at 25 and it worked out for me.
But I make 90k, I bought a 250K house with 20% down. Hard to compare between different regions/areas though.
Any interest rate under 4% fixed is genuinely good. Better than renting in a lot of cases.

How did your sister save up 35k with 50k salary? was she living at home with your parental units and working for 3-4 years?

>>16834761
I pay ~$1800/m in rent which is about the average for my area. Median home price is $325k and generally works out cheaper here than renting although I'm a lazy POS and like walking to work.

>>16834820
I don't pay any rent. Got own apartment middle of city. 75 euro a month for water, heat and electricity.

you are reporting your trades to the IRS, r-right /biz/?

F U Degiro PIECE F SHT
>"No. We do not support Pre-Market or After-Hours trading."

>>16834595
Thank you for this recommendation. What great insights so far!
>>16834797
She's been working 3+ years, so it's within reason. The kicker is she bought a house 13 months ago. $195K - a reasonable ranch for a single individual, albeit I thought overpriced at the time (let's pretend pic related, but on a tiny corner lot of suburbia).
Well, that's not good enough, so she wants something about 50% bigger and is paying nearly twice as much because 'wow! Look how much my house has appreciated!)
Never mind you she'll lose her ass on realtor fees, moving and closing costs, and any increase in market value is going to become a 2X expense as she moves up in price. In other words, she's drooling over listing her house for + $25K (how can a home appreciate nearly 10% in a year?!!!!), but in the meantime, the house she bought she's probably paying $50K more than she would have last year.

You and I are in the same boat, I bought around 25 as well. Been here 7 or so years and it'll be paid off next year. Bought around $150k. It's a shithole, but I'm $18K away from being 100% debt free and funneling every penny into retirement or the mortgage.
Contrast that with my sister, a kid wrapping herself up in debt for a house.
As I look back, personal real estate isn't an investment. You mitigate rent costs, but you end up hoping in the end to break even after taxes, insurance, repairs, and inflation.
>>16834820
I remember my first apartment being $600 only a decade ago.
We're getting dicked hard and have been fooled into liking it. If the new norm is $2K/mo for a roof, we're never going to thrive. The cost of living is too high.

>>16834835
>you are reporting your trades to the IRS, r-right /biz/?
Sadly, yes. I make way too much money trading to try to hide

>>16834878
if she hasn't closed yet on the bigger house, tell her to cut it out and stick with the smaller house. Sounds like she got a really nice deal. Bigger house-> more problems, more bills.
Less expensive (more affordable) houses are going to appreciate MORE by % than more expensive houses over the next decade...

I can talk some sense into her if you need me to :D

>>16834835
You ask that like I have a choice

lci up pre market ayyyy finally I picked a winner. (I bought in at 8.40)

>>16834904
prove it, with no SOXL memes please

Do you think it'll be a good idea to pile everything into Berkshire when Buffett dies? I think the share price will plummet when he goes.

>>16834925
>Prove it
All I trade are memes. SOXL, Bitcoin, futures contracts (green buys, turquoise sells (note the buys tend to be beneath the sells)).
What can I say? It works for me

>>16834918
Somebody pls tell him...

>>16834907
She's beyond saving, she's the impulsive, Kardashian watching, 'daddy will bail me out' type.
But I'm seeing her mindset manifest so often these days, and parents are washing it off as just 'psh, houses increase. This is perfectly normal.'

>>16834935
No, he literally says to buy indexes and avoid fees

>>16834951
And who can forget the Robinhood meme? I'm just swimming in trading success. Then again I've been at it for a while

>>16834956
I don't like index funds.

What about Microsoft when BILL dies? I have 10k sitting in cash waiting for the right person to die.

>>16834953
she just needs someone to smack her around a little and tell her that she's an idiot. but in a constructive way ;)
it's healthy to check a woman's behavior when they start to come ungrounded. if you just let them do what they want it will end badly every time.

>>16834969
Bill hasn't done anything Microsoft related for years. Nothing will change. If you get a dip which I doubt then buy it.

>>16834951
whats going on here? i dont know how these mini indexes work

>>16834935
He won't ever die. Dividends extend your life.

i-is it too late to buy DDD..

>>16834976
>whats going on here? i dont know how these mini indexes work
I trade index futures and it works the same way as trading index ETFs. Only difference is futures trades almost 24 hours a day, you can day trade with insane leverage like 20 or 30x, tax treatment is super sweet (you only pay taxes on the difference of your whole account at year's end and it's 60/40 longterm/short term capital gains), no such thing as wash trading, and some other stuff. I highly recommend anybody who likes to trade open a futures account. It'll blow your mind and if you are good you'll end up rich talking shit on underwater basket weaving forums like me

>>16834982
Buy if it breakes 10. Looks good so far

>>16834992
Almost forgot the most important thing if you're a poorfag. Futures traders are not subject to pattern day trader rule so you can go in with as little as a few hundred bucks and knock yourself out

Nvidia FTW

fucking millenials reeeeeeeee
sell your stocks and buy boats right now

https://www.boatus.com/magazine/2017/october/why-arent-millennials-buying-boats.asp

What are the best news sites for finance? Yahoo is absolutely swarming with junk articles.

BYND still going up

>>16834982
Why is this shit moving?

>Roku and UPS calls expiring worthless this Friday

stupid fucking faggot market literally full of faggots betting on the same 5 stocks

>>16835129
>UPS calls
wait why did you think this was a good idea
shipping companies are getting crushed by big Jeff. Have you not seen the FLEETS of amazon courier trucks out on the roads? Did you miss the FedEx news?

>>16835094
Depends. My daily troll is pretty FT heavy, maybe some bloomberg, anything new JPM has put out. Of course gotta have some zerohedge too so you can keep up with the latest FUD

>>16835140
UPS is the only company beating Amazon in shipping. Fedex doing bad is good for UPS. UPS had a fantastic year, and their winter at their main hub was non-existant. They are in the best position they've ever been in.

>>16835086
But I live in the middle of the US above the treeline. Unless you want me to go boating in the water treatment facility.

>>16835147
you're going to have to explain to me how they are beating Amazon in shipping. You just mean in total volume/weight shipped?
The point is that Amazon can call the shots on their platform, UPS can't. Amazon is the party in the drivers seat of the situation.

>>16834992
>I highly recommend anybody who likes to trade open a futures account.
most retard friendly place to start? And can one start small to learn the ropes? Say 100?

>>16830239
Iron condor on Ford. Shits been at $9 for like a year and is not going anywhere soon

>>16835164
Fedex got cut out of Amazon's work. UPS didn't. They are beating Amazon because they're favored in all monoply conditions and, get military contracts for troop logistics, and have been gaining ground on Amazon in many ways. UPS being the first FAA certified drone delivery service. UPS is on track for it's best years of all time.

ALRIGHT LADS WHAT ARE WE BUYING AT OPEN?

>>16835129
Aaaaaand Tesla is up 2% premarket.
Honk honk! Go get an impossible burger!

>>16835197
GALT

>>16835182
>most retard friendly place to start? And can one start small to learn the ropes? Say 100?
https://www.ampfutures.com/ is your friend. $100 account minimum and you can day trade the micro Russell 2000 with $25 margin. Naturally if you are going to start this low it's gonna be tough but it is possible. I started with $600 just to test the waters way back when and I never blew up my account even with all the leverage and sometimes I had positions open that were 40x. I was very very careful though. That's one of the beauties of futures. If you're small money but really careful and talented you can come up quick. Amp is great with the low minimums, low day trade margins, but they also have (I think) the lowest round trip fees in the industry. Buying a selling a single contract (~$8000 notional value) only sets you back 78 cents or so. Compare that to trading on a bitcoin exchange where an $8000 buy and sell will typically set you back $40. You can see how the fees are drastically less in futures. I'm not an Amp shill but you asked

>adap
buy&hold

>>16835216
>bitcoin exchange where an $8000 buy and sell will typically set you back $40
That's why you trade on bitmex

But yeah, ampfutures is great. You can hook it to tradingview and trade directly from there which is the best shit ever.

WHAT FUCKING STOCK SHOULD I BUY
AAAHHH HELP MEEEE
my varta stock is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A

>>16835238
>adap
>Pre-market 2.13 +0.80 (60.15%)
Could you imagine getting in before the moon launch?

>not holding Xiaomi RIGHT NOW
big oof /biz/

>SPCE almost to 13.44
and to think I was gonna throw a couple grand at it when it was sub 10 dollars, feels bad

>>16835251
I admit. Timing is a bit unfortunate but still many good news incoming in near future.

AMD to 60 by end of month

>>16835246
>That's why you trade on bitmex
Ain't that the truth. People talk a lot of shit about Arthur but getting a rebate as a taker is some good shit. Compare with e.g., Bittrex, 0.25% per side. $40 to buy and sell a bitcoin. So if bitcoin is $8000 and you buy you are automatically in the hole until the price hits $8040 not even counting the spread. FUUUUUUCCCCKKKKK that. With futures, most contracts put you in profit on the very next tick above the price you bought. Sweetness

>>16835283
Meant to say rebate as maker. Need some covfefe

>>16835262
i dont know why i said almost to i meant its at 13:44

>>16835256
indeed. I've got this on my watchlist but I didn't want to get into yet another tech stoch (most of my portfolio is tech and fintech). They're on a very strong uptrend right now and it's cheap as fuck

this thread is too bullish, time to go short

SNSS just filed an 8-K saying they will be presenting at the JP Morgan conference. So that's a pretty bullish indicator.

is e-Toro any good?

I went all in on BYND last Friday, should I sell today??

>find undervalued stocks
>they get ignored because people dont actually trade undervalued stocks thats why theyre undervalued
>everybody with any money is literally just playing FOTM(flavor of the month)

I AM SO FUCKING MAD AT THIS

>>16835337
I've been asking the same question here but no one seems to use it. I do. It's decent, but it lacks some features and they rape you on conversion fees when going from € to USD and back. My plan is to reach a certain number, withdraw and migrate to Degiro ir ib, but I have some sweet positions there that I'd hate to lose.

ATBPF just announced new leadership ahead of partnerships, too. To everyone here who is holding a nice stack of that, things are looking good

>>16835360
>people want to actually make money and not invest into meme stocks

imagine my shock

>>16835359
Better question: should I buy calls on this shit?

unironical question:
how does day-trading work?

if i buy stock with my broker, it takes some time to actually own the stock. few hours or something.
in those hours, the price might change drastically.
so how does the day-trading stuff work?
how do i buy stocks so instantly?

WHOA LCl BACK ABOVE 10 SUDDENLY

>>16835375
nigger blue chips get ignored too, FOTM stocks are fuckin volume drains for the rest of the market

>>16835372
I only have 2k. May get more.
>>16835216
Will look into it, thanks. Have 0 knowledge of futures.
>>16835256
ticker?

How do I get more leverage? I have a pretty good strategy but I need something like 15x leverage to make it work.

>>16835320
This thread is always bullish

>>16835402
I wouldn't say they're ignored (blue chips), they need enormous volume to move. I sold my KO shares because the divvy wasn't enough to keep me going crabbing for months. Shit has to be VERY undervalued to raise attention, I guess. what were you looking into?

>>16835387
What brokerage do you use? It should not be taking hours for your shares to be showing up in your acct.

>>16835423
just go to your local bank and tell them:
>I have a pretty good strategy but I need something like 15x leverage to make it work.

Is there any actual concrete evidence that anything is happening anytime soon with SNSS, GALT, or ONTX or is everyone just going long with them?

>>16835443
then they'll be like "you're not Soros, we're only giving you 2x"

>>16835449
400mg data shortly on SNSS, and they just announced they are presenting at the JP Morgan healthcare conference happening now. 400mg data likely to show efficacy within the next month or two.

>>16835450
what is your CHA modifier?
just roll high on your persuasion check. You'll make it or you won't; worst thing that they can say is 'no'

>tfw I'll need to eat a 400 dollar loss because KDP shit the bed for no reason last week
obviously that's chump change for a lot of you and normally I'd just hold but I gotta pull the money for a down payment. That's what I get for making plans when shit is green, I guess.

>>16835462
Ah, very good. Thanks for the tip anon.

>>16835440
oh boy i just went to my bank-guy and told him i need a depot for stocks

where is this anon who tried to catch a falling knife at 2.95 ? rectally ruined.

>>16835160
BROWN WATER RAFTING ROOOOOOO

>>16834969
>cash waiting for the right person to die
Why not use that cash to keep Bill alive? He's been good to us.

>>16835423
>How do I get more leverage? I have a pretty good strategy but I need something like 15x leverage to make it work.
Buy calls. If you go far enough OTM you get effectively 50-100x leverage. Just mind theta

>>16835476
So when do you want to buy a stock do you like call a guy on the telephone?

>>16835438
"the market is logical"

so do you follow the hype or do you hunt for a good choice

>>16835496
you have to read between the lines here: this is some kid with $1500 and he needs 15x leverage to get to 25K for the day trading rule
I want to encourage him to do it

>>16829950
on what should I gamble my savings today?

>>16835516

>>16835523
Why gamble when you can enjoy a Coca Cola?

>SAVA

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

>>16835528
sometimes you try and talk some sense into em
sometimes you don't
:D

>>16835497
no i got it on-line, with my online banking, where my normal bank account is as well.

Crtx presenting at the conference, so i expect some alzheimer money to there and out of sava, so look for the nice sava dip. Don't get me wrong crtx is pricey for their current state, but they sell themselves better because they go against a pathogen. Sava is doing that silently and under the radar

>>16835512
you didn't answer my question, what stocks do you think are undervalued?

I personally hunt for a good choice, keep it on my watchlist then ride the uptrend when it starts. I don't know what you mean by "hype".

>>16835556
fuck, avoid those services at all costs. Bank brokerages (at least in my experience) are mostly scams.

>>16835476
>>16835387

>>16835564
SNSS also presenting at that conference, so expect some BTK money to come it's way as well. hint hint.

>>16835387
it takes a bit of time to be LEGALLY settled behind the scenes but you own them in your brokerage account instantly.

https://budgeting.thenest.com/long-would-after-bought-stock-shareholder-record-24457.html

>>16835476
are you a retard or do you live in a 3rd world country? choose a broker in the OP's list.

OH SHIT, IN THEIR JPM PRESENTATION IT SAYS SNSS IS ANNOUNCING 400MG DATA IN Q1! WAHAHAHAHAHA We're all gonna make it frens.

Side note, OH MY GOD WHAT HAPPENED TO ACST

>>16835392
Pre-market trading is a hell of a drug.

>>16835648
LCl sells cocaine?

Please keep up this boom pre market... please... I need to recover my gains... PLM...

>>16835661
its used in sinus surgery as a vasoconstrictive+anesthetic

>>16835648
this can't be real

>look it up
>it's real

what the actual fuck

>>16835661
I use it in lacrimal duct surgery to reduce bleeding, works breddy gud

Wow the shorts IMMEDIATELY attacked to push LCl back down again.

>>16835726
LCI to $0.60

>>16835726
Yes, it's the shorts and not the fundamental opinion of the market or the value of the company.

Zzzzz

curious to see what SRNE does today

>>16835726
yeah bro its totally the shorts and not a dog shit company lmao

buying nvidia now y/n?

>>16835734
>>16835743
Guys relax I'm not even invested in LCl. But it definitely still has MASSIVE shorting.

just put $150 on TTNP at .305. Let's see how that goes today. At least make me $10....

>>16835726
I wouldn't assume it has anything to do with "the shorts," just simple supply and demand. Someone wants to load up on shares pre-market when there aren't so many sellers, and they are willing to pay a premium to do so. One normal trading hours begin, the price drops because you have the normal array of sellers.

>>16835754
Y but gotta be longterm

>>16833487
noice

>>16835696
You, too!?

Ddd nada

Mooon

WHAT ARE YOU BUYING

>>16835831
More ONTX, ATBPF, and ADXS.

Might throw a lil into MYT.

>>16835831
SNSS

>>16835726
Based shorts. I sold my LCI to buy the snss low.
If this takes off without me I will kill someone.
>>16835733
I hope so. That would make it a 100 bagger.

>>16835810
And of-course right after I buy it goes RED... Thank god I didn't pour much money on that shit.

>>16835734
>>16835817
It was relatively comfy at 12 after the short squeeze. It didn't drop back instantly like RAD but only ah on news. Why would every single pump now be sold that aggressively?

Green melt up!!!

Ddd
Nada

I'd say SAVA is going to bounce up pretty hard then settle down into something modest

>>16835855
TA isn't my thing but from an FA standpoint that stock is clearly a raging piece of shit.

Ddd
Ddd

Train is vertical and climbing altitude

>>16835855
You bought the top, what did you expect?

9% day lol

Thx ddd

>>16835817
Why would any sane person buy at a premium pre market when it’s invariable going to be cheaper a few hours later? This screams manipulation

Down 6% across 5 minutes in. Brb traffic looks fun to run into.

TESLA ABOVE FIVE HUNDRED

No one on ddd :(

TSLA 500 babeeey

quick question, with a normal Scwab account if I deposit cash from my bank can I trade with immediately or must I wait for it to settle?

How do I get better at telling u guys what to buy?

Seems like no one went ddd

>>16835869
>>16835882
All I wanted was for it to go up 2 or 3 cents because of this... I mean, what kind of stock goes down with good news?
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/titan-pharmaceuticals-announces-addition-probuphine-130000347.html

>>16835926
>I mean, what kind of stock goes down with good news?
Off the top of my head LCI and AMRN did it pretty consistently.

>>16835925
Pasta at least 1.5x better than >>16830930

>tfw bought into VARTA expecting the dip to stop

Looks like I am sitting in these for a while h-haha

Anyone having issues with robinhood? An order I put in Friday that was supposed to be cancelled just filled. And now it keeps appearing and disappearing in my options list.

So SNSS confirmed start of 500mg cohort, and confirmed 400mg data coming this quarter.

>>16835959
where? its not on their site.

>>16835954
Yeah RH is bugging out on me bad

>>16835959
Based, I just liquidated my NOK stocks now that they've turned green and I'm sitting on 150 stocks of SNSS. Thanks for the heads up far.

>>16835925
Trips polarize a lot. Some will hate on you but if you consistently have good calls then this should work out quite nicely.
And/or post your dd as a pro/con list in greentext in combination with an attention pic(pls no animu).

>>16835976
It's in their JPM presentation

>>16835954
And yet she doesn't move AAAA

GALT going up slightly, anyone have any idea why?

>>16835954
yeah RH is being retarded.

>>16835939
anyway. Instead of making $10 I just lost $10... I'm done for the day. Gonna keep it till tomorrow tho.

NEW

>>16836003
>>16836003
>>16836003

NEW

>>16836003
>>16836003
>>16836003

12% lol insane 32% ytd around

>>16835437
you should have seen it when the yield curve inverted