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if can fuck prostitute men have more job

All criminalization of prostitution does is frustrate men and put poor women in dangerous positions. Furthermore it gives men no relief to the divorce-rape economic system that men are forced into if they want a LTR or kids.

why is it illegal anyways, if two consenting parties want to fuck and one party is paying the other who the hell cares.

>>16738116
>why is it illegal anyways
because of the religion meme, sex is a sin blablabla

>>16738133
Hey Jew how's weather in tel Aviv? Most normal people understand that sex trafficking is widespread with prostitution. I'm sure you guys also hate BSV. Fucking degenerates.

>>16738116
Hard to tax

>>16737873
Point taken, it HAS been a while since I fapped to Ava Addams.

>>16738133
Consider that prostitution is illegal, but if you record it becomes legal. It’s a weird law if porn is going to be legal.

>>16738116
I assume it has something to do with power. If you make prostitution illegal then it deprives certain people in society the availability of sex, so they need to be a good boy and seek status or wealth to move into an echelon where, at least in traditional societies, someone is willing to marry off their daughter.
However when you add whores into the mix, it disrupts that. lower men can get sex without kowtowing to the power that be. They tell the druids, the cheiftain, or congress to get fucked because they're getting fucked.

>>16738107
pretty much, im so fucking frustrated right now. the laws and the government have destroyed the ability to have a normal relationship with a women. and escorts are illegal here too. i really just want communism or islam to topple the government at this point.

inb4: why dont you just move to another country?
where? euro is cucked. and i dont want to move to a 3rd world shithole that is to unsafe/crime ridden to live. and the us tries all the legal tricks it can to keep you here in this prison from trying to leave.

>>16738133
yeah, its not jews, its Christianity thats a bigger threat to freedom. all these conservatives talk about freedom but they go around making laws against everything

>>16738217
Yes yes yes yes

>>16738301
Prostitution is legal in many parts of Europe, take a vacation friend

>>16738483
I want it on a regular basis not once a year on a vacation

>>16738159
>sex trafficking is widespread with prostitution.
Only if you add Arabs, Turks or Persians into the mix

>>16738159
i dont really care about sex trafficking, i have no empathy for a women, when she can take half a man's property though the court system, or deny sex in a relationship just because she doesn't feel like it, or not contribute to a relationship in anyway. normally in these situations a man could just dump a bad woman and get a good woman, but now the woman can just go to the courts to destroy a man and put all the blame on him

>>16737873
Cancer thread. Kys, incel

>>16737873
If someone wants to sell their body - let them.

>>16738116
cash business hard for government to tax and control
freedom of tbe people etc

>>16737873
>Is prostitution a normal part of a healthy economy?
yes and no
it's a normal part but it's not healthy

>>16738116
mostly because the vast majority of women doing sex work are abused into it. they are hooked on drugs beaten and often raped and see a fraction of their earnings. and they will lie for their pimps like their life depends on it.

>>16738725
So go after those pimps who do illegal stuff, not honest people.

>>16738725
see this only happens when sex work is illegal becauae only criminals will then participate

>>16738741
it's hard. much easier to collect and fine the women and make their situation worse.
>>16738745
doesn't matter it's the same where it's legal sometimes better organized sometimes not.

>>16738682
>or deny sex in a relationship just because she doesn't feel like it,
this sounds dangerously close to the argument you are obliged to fuck fat chicks and MTF trannies if they want to

>>16738301
>euro is cucked
Irony.

>>16738301
>i really just want communism or islam to topple the government at this point
aahahahah yeah that would make everything much better!
fucking retard...

>>16738301
>i dont want to move to a 3rd world shithole that is to unsafe/crime ridden to live
oh the irony...

i think asian massage parlors are great!!!

>>16738714
Can you explain why it isn't healthy?

>>16738133
bullshit, we live in sodom and gomorroah in terms of sexual degeneracy and prostitution is still illegal, prostitution is illegal a) as a selection pressure to only allow chads to get sexual experience and b) to produce unstable young males who will go on sprees, providing reason to ban guns thereby making enslavement easier

>>16738920
stds are a public health issue prostitution is basically a warm bed for spreading them
gives a steady income to organized crime which will have other ventures too drugs are a big part of how this all works
incentivizes human trafficking and slavery even child exploitation literally ruining lives
diverts resources to a shadow economy
and so on... shit ain't good.

the myth about women doing whatever they want with their own bodies and earning money in a purely capitalist system just doesn't stand up for scrutiny. they are just used gutted and discarded.

>>16738992
lmao sex workers are often not the ones with STD nice try tho.

>>16738780
in australia sex workers need a license
brothels need a license also and are heavily audited
trafficking and shady practices happen in some illegally run brothels but police seem to be shutting those places down every week

>>16739155
netherland and new zeland concluded that legalizing only increased demand and made everything worse. not sure how it is in australia but i imagine worse. everything is worse in australia.

>>16739218
idk man we dont have street walkers and crocodile leather'd out pimps
just rich white women and rich old chinks

>>16739125
dude... it's simple math every sexual contact you have has x% chance to transmit you an std. hookers do a hell of a lot more than normal magnitudes more. and not only their chances of getting it are inherently higher by a few magnitudes but their transmission rate is magnitudes higher also.

it's a systemic risk.

>>16739218
>netherland and new zeland concluded that legalizing only increased demand
they needed a study to tell them more people will do something they have a biological necessity to do once they make it legal?

>>16739246
they also noticed a change in attitude "customers" became a lot more entitled after legalizing. which leads to further problems for society. also 60-70% of the women are forced into prostitution and are victims of human trafficking even where it's completely legal.

shit is so fucked...

>>16738116
Taxes basically. Funnily enough in the US it's not even banned by the federal government, every single state banned it except for NV

>>16738725
this is bullshit. maybe some nasty ass bareback streetwalker, but the vast majority of prostitution business is conducted through the internet on forums very similar to this one. girls and johns are all rated and vetted in one way or another. pimping has fallen to the wayside, the internet is the pimp now.

the girls who get into this are rarely desperate, they are typically just lazy and want quick ez money. when you can make $1000 a day, untaxed, getting a college education to be a pharmacist or teacher or some shit isn't very appealing.

the real secret is that girls just want to try it because its dirty or taboo to sell your ass for money. i guarantee some woman in your family has sold her cunt at one point in her life, just to try it on. the amount of mid 40's divorcee's who get into the business is astounding.

also, making prostitution legal would blow up white womens spot as top of the sexual food chain. the "white girl tax" is real as fuck.

>>16739311
it's not bullshit it's statistics and evidence compiled over decades.
some people actually put thousands of man hours of research this shit instead of trying to solve this long standing issue from his couch.

>>16739350
>compiled over decades.
doesn't really apply when there is a massive paradigm shift in how the business is conducted.

>>16739275
then the taxes argument doesn't make complete since, because there is no income tax in several states

>>16738483
prostitution is legal there but you have to wear condoms for the legal stuff. pass

>>16739350
i might add that where prostitution is illegal the women that are forced or coerced into it are closer to 95 to 99%. this of course includes those forced into it by relatives even husbands. like i said lot's of myths are around this subject. the truth is if a girl or woman tries to do this business alone she will end up getting beaten and robbed or killed in short order as she would be prime target for predators without the muscle or quickly chased away by competition.

>>16739363
that's an illusion. see if the woman gets a decent cut the pimp will get less. i there are independent contractors taking a slice of the business the pimp gets less. the pimp won't let that happen. bad for business. keeping girls as slaves hooked on drugs and mentally abused into submission is how they maximize profits.

there is no paradigm shift. can't be.

>>16739381
Rather has aids

>>16739311
Prostitution isn’t sustainable. It’s fast money but eventually you get old and ugly

>>16739428
Short term profits can easily pave the way for long term investments (assuming a woman has the mental capacity for that kind of thinking).

>>16739428
It's enough money to get you out of most bad financial situations and back on your feet, assuming that you save it and don't blow it on stupid shit.

>>16738682
jesus. im not against prostitution but saying women deserve to be sex slaves because government gave them power is some seething incel shit. the government shouldn't give them that power in the first place.

>>16739405
lol, fag, there are no pimps. the escort review website is the closest thing to a pimp now. get with the fuckin' times grampa. its literally all on the internet now.

>>16739365
Good point, probably moral arguments then. I know in TX and FL it's probably because of muh degeneracy but who knows.

>>16739450
>escort review website
that takes it's cut too but that's like 1% of prostitution or less.

>>16737873
money = artificial power ;therefore money > man power

welcome to your capitalistic world, goy

>>16737873
Yes, All women are prostitutes in reality. Women want to keep the illusion of being innocent and worth the price of gold for as long as they can. Once men stop valuing women and giving them power, they no longer care about prostitution being illegal because they've already been ousted. This is why it's legal in some places where the men are more dominant, but in cucked north america women still outlaw it. Women know that they are whores and only good for sex, But they want to keep it secret as long as possible so they can be as valuable as possible.

>>16738217
>However when you add whores into the mix, it disrupts that.

However whenever you add women who are bad at giving off the illusion of being a "good girl", it disrupts that.
They are all inately whores, It's just the clever ones that can put on the illusions. The dumb women who are bad at manipulating men come off as whores, their is not different types of women. Sometimes men forget that it's literally in their biology to manipulate men.

>>16739666
Would you say that escorts are "good" or "bad"? It isn't really manipulation at all. It's a straight exchange.

>>16737873
If you haven't been to a Japanese pinsaro (not the fake pinsaro aimed at foreigners, but the real ones that are usually exclusively for Japanese), then you haven't lived.

>>16739889
I have not. Are those legal in Japan?

>>16737873
No. Prostitution has almost always been an underground economy, in modern times. It exists outside of the normal society.

>>16739889
Is there something special about an express bj

what's so special about cooming?
can anyone give me an explanation?

i thought if i hold onto my coom reserves, i gain more wisdom?

>>16740268
If you don't coom for long period of time you're literally being memed into getting cancer by oldfags. That doesn't mean that you should jack off 5 times a day to degen porn. If you don't have a wife too coom into, jack off once every 1-2 weeks, preferably without degen porn.

>>16740295
>preferably without degen porn.

I can only get off to BMWF interracial

Help

Same reason gubmint can ban plants (poppy plant and mj, etc) and fungus and whatever else. Power and sheeple who enable power.

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>>16740358
The jews have completely fucked my mind and I am lost

>>16740364
Limit your cooming and switch to lesbian porn. Gradually reduce your porn consumption to zero. Good luck, fren!

>>16740295
well i mean not everyone can get a wife, and 1-2 weeks is a long time especially for a weak people

im in a situation where if i dont jack off to degen porn, i may get enticed to see an escort and waste money and time

>>16740386
You're already making progress if you understand that escorts are a waste of money and time. If people can't go on that long, they should gradually reduce their cooming habits.

>>16740318
>>16740364

If you're white, kys. I'm being dead serious

>>16740370
I'll try... after today

>>16740431
Korean actually

>>16738133
Silence Jew

>>16738682
>deny sex in a relationship just because she doesn't feel like it,
bro i don't feel like having sex 100% of the time. this is some legitimate incel shit you're spouting lol. i think you have sex to regain perspective.

>>16738992
dude that´s what happens when its not legal, nowadays all is done through forums and scorts pages and shit

>>16739445
if that´s the solution for women, what is the equivalent for men ?

prostitution should be legalized and glamorized.

most women would enjoy it and are soft prostitutes as it is. most men would benefit from having a clear way to engage with women and it would motivate them. women are terrible employees anyway and no one should respect office worker women.

sex work is real work. respect sex workers.

>>16738174
this

this is the ultimate endgame for blockchain tech - assign the hoes a blockchain hashed by the state, for pos tax

>>16740295
>Muh prostate cancer
Cringe

>>16739311
>but the vast majority of prostitution business is conducted through the internet on forums very similar to this one
>thinking pimps haven't adapted to this and that your """escort""" isn't just an overpriced prostitute

>>16740620
suicide

>>16739666
What the fuck does that have to do with the legislation of prostitution?

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>>16738714
you havent posted a single source you retarded christfag

>>16738174
>Hard to tax
Not if brothels are legalized. The only country that really has good prostitution laws is Australia.

>>16741663
Why are their laws better?

>>16739263
yeah I don't care about any of this. You're a dumb fuck. Either legalize it here or I will continue to go spend money where it is legal.

>>16740620
Army

>>16740463
korea blocks porn which should have saved you
after 3 months in asia with all porn blocked i trancended into nofap naturally.. just takes a little bit of government enforced celibacy anon.

also porn is evil and touching yourself should be avoided

>>16741648
use google there is an extensive study done by the eu about this evaluating the experiences with various member countries approaches.
also can't give a fuck about religion your assumptions are retarded.

>>16743510
Transcended from no fap to hookers?

>>16737873
>Is prostitution a normal part of a healthy economy?
Yes
>Does banning it put an unnatural constraint on a normal capitalist market?
No. Black market money gets laundered and fuels the system just like real money as those making a profit still go out and buy food, clothes, and goods. An argument could be made that this acts as a way for capital to escape certain countries and find it's way funneled into other countries that mass produce consumer goods and services, but any government that genuinely cared about such consequences would probably aim to legalize as many things as possible as quickly as possible for tax and accounting purposes, so... no harm no foul if they find themselves becoming weaker economically. The global capitalist market continues to thrive while certain nations go under because of their own arrogance and misguided calls for nationalism/tradition.

>>16738301
>and the us tries all the legal tricks it can to keep you here in this prison from trying to leave.
explain. and how is europe cucked? america is even more cucked since everything is illegal here

>>16744454
Completely wrong, at least in regards to domestic consumption. It's only "healthy" if you export it. E.g. you produce cocaine, porn and hookers and then export it to foreign countries which "legalized" it for reasons of "competition." For them to become dysfunctional and degenerate drug-addicts, but for your citizens to remain productive members of society.

>>16745164
why would prostitutes reduce productivity? men still need to make money to spend on women.

>>16740318
Maybe you just like big cocks?

>>16740628
Firefly had it right

>>16740575
He's not saying that. He's saying that a sexless relationship is grounds to divorce and not get ass raped in the process. As it stands now a sexless relationship is not a valid excuse to divorce amicably.

>>16737873
I dont think we were ready for the sexual revolution socially or technologically. There are consequences that liberals seem to overlook.

STDs. we still dont have a good cure for most of these

Pregnancy. BC are pretty good but not infallible. However, if a women has a child the man has to pay even if he doesn't want it. That is fucked up. If women are in charge of their bodies, they should be in charge of paying the child too.

not to mention false rape accusations, divorce rape, and dead bedrooms.

all the sexual revolution did was hurt men

checkmate liberals