/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16734767
szabo who?

>>16734767
no, that is called being redpilled. Learn the terms pal.

>>16734767
i thought bitcoin was anti government szabo?

Based Szabo

>>16734767
> if you don't support the state's ability to label someone's existence as illegal then reeeee

>>16734767
If it's truly your land, you would be in control of the state and laws governing and protecting it.

>>16734795
fuck off eric

>>16734767
Based and redpilled

>>16734767
BTC imploding from stupidity and hypocrisy. Erik is a true libertarian while Nick is /pol/ tier straw man

>>16734783
Thank you!

>>16734806
I don't give a fuck about immigration or borders.
I give a fuck about cheering on the state as it continues it's chronic abuse cycles.
> but but but they were born somewhere else!!!
I dont care

>>16734767
Thats fucking retarded. So what because the state is the one who is forcing everyone to be under their protection their laws are now moral? If I own my property what If i am fully capable of protecting it myself? Then can I have the Mexican?

Fuck the government

>>16734827
Erik believes its his land, Szabo is correctly pointing out that Erik is renting permission to use that land from gov, thus his use must follow EULA.
>1st yr libs easily beat down.

>>16734827
>true libertarian
What is the difference between anarchists and "true" libertarians?

>>16734875
The US *wants* them to be illegal since even many illegals pay taxes and into SS, but don’t get to collect.

>>16734827
>BTC imploding from stupidity and hypocrisy
BTC doesn’t care about you

>>16734888
mcnukes

>>16734946
>illegals are slaves
1999 called and they want their talking points back. In 2020 illegals are eligible for food-stamps, welfare, and have full voting rights.

>>16735068
they're going to have healthcare and free college tuition too if the libs get there way.

>>16735068
This is not true. It is statist propaganda designed to have the plebs fight each other over imagined enemies rather than team up and address real issues.
The state's propaganda arm always attempts to pit groups against each other. It keeps everyone distracted as they steal and manipulate things.

>>16735104
you are a lying faggot. I live in a sanctuary city that has banned "checking id's to vote" and regularly stand behind illegals with their ebt cards with baskets filled to the brim with free food.

>>16735134
This is not how these systems operate.
The propaganda really did a number on you, eh?

>>16734767
Anyone that signals that hard has never, ever, been around indo trash subhuman south-central "Americans". I can't even fathom how privileged such a life must be.

>>16735153
Anyone with a driver's licence gets to vote in California.
And illegals can get driver's licences.

Wow I wonder what that means.

>>16735134
If you're life were going great, you wouldn't butt into other's grocery carts and their payment methods. Get a life.

>>16735092
>free college tuition too if the libs get there way
>there way
>the libs
>there
You would hate education

>>16735153
you're a lying faggot who shills for commies.

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>>16735180
The best thing about propaganda is people will defend their own understanding of it without questioning the facts, no matter what evidence is presented.
Keep watching your 'news' telling you what to think about which subgroup that somehow never includes oligarchs.

>>16735153
Nigger get off your high horse (well, come out from behind your parent's gated golf course community) and fly to any CA DMV. Spend an hour there and enjoy, a better, more humbling "life experience" than going to aidsfrica for the IG selfie.

>>16735177
>you wouldn't butt into other's grocery carts
its sorta obvious when they must use 3 different ebt cards to complete a transaction, so their basket of $235 of tortillas + diabetus can finally be paid.
People like you who support this theft are going to be brought to justice.

>>16735193
this isn't about me "watching faux news"....its real life. Come see for yourself sometime.

>>16735193
>Non-citizen voting likely changed 2008 outcomes including Electoral College votes and the composition of Congress.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973

>>16735231
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973
This paper is $20 unless given access by the state's 'education' system.

>>16735259
You can see the main findings right there.

>>16735266
The abstract is not the findings.

>>16735283
Above the abstract.

And the abstract does present a very succinct overview of findings:
>We find that some non-citizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and Congressional elections.

Start coping any time.

That tweet sentence is an iq test in itself, and a bunch of biztards seem to be in the double digits.

>>16735198
>you did this goy
>you support the beaners
>you gon be justiced to death
based retard

There is no such thing as a moral crime.

>>16734795
It's not their existence that is illegal. It is their presence on other people's land that is illegal.

>>16734850
Nope, because you are under military protection by the state, and it provides the jurisprudence required for you to even live and own property in the first place.

You know ownership is a legal construct right? Without the legality of property rights, there is ONLY force deciding who has what.

imagine being over 20 years old and still being a libertarian

>>16734767
based szabo defending the rights of Government

>>16736079
imagine being too poor to want sovereignty

>>16734767
>you are committing a moral crime
>a moral crime
LMAO just lost the respect I had for Szabo.

Yes OP, you are a serf bound to a plot of land and cannot move freely without being released by your lord.

I'm not for mass thirdworld immigration but being treated like cattle bound to roam within a state's borders doesn't sit well with me. Maybe I have some ancap tendencies after all. Anyone know this feel?

Szabo fucking brainlet tier. How is violating a state law a moral crime? Philosophically that makes no sense unless he believes the state is capable of constructing only perfectly moral laws.

>>16736306
>If given absolute freedom, everyone will behave in a rational and altruistic manner just like me! Fuck havin' laws 'n' shiet! We all da same!

Most people need to be restrained and put into tiny cages or they'll act like the literal chimpanzees that they are.

>>16736294
it's also your rights
otherwise any random junkie would just jump in, kill you and your family and take all your properties

>>16735698
so taxes= protection money? good to know. And if the mob doesn¨t have enough goons they can draft my kid?

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>>16737134
>>>/r/cryptocurrency
GO BACK.

>>16736458
szabo is pretty upset with west falling to globalism
he thinks cultures should be protected because it's important to the human race to have different unique cultures
he's right on a large scale but it's hard to side with the state on an individuals right to associate with whoever they want

>>16737235
>he's right on a large scale but it's hard to side with the state on an individuals right to associate with whoever they want
You realize there's a healthy middle ground between full statism and full individualism right?

>>16737181
Stop committing moral crimes!

>>16735193
what if the people you hate are using illegal immigrants as a means of shoring up their own power centers? if we had a proper elite and a serious country we wouldn't even be having this convo. that being said, I am sure yo would still be a smugfag about something else.

>>16737235
>west falling to globalism
but, the west invented globalism. Its more like the rest of the world is falling to western globalism

>>16737261
yeah I think that's why szabo said illegal alien and not legal immigrant
it's morally wrong when you displace your community with 1000s of illegals who will work for less

>>16737295
or we can say when the jews seized power but I mean either way our countries have fallen as a result of this economic experiment

>>16735656
How was that land obtained?

>>16737310
>whyte ppl dindu nuffins! it was da joos fault!

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>>16735283
Its amazing how often you have to lie to present an argument, if one can even call it that

Illegal immigrants are regarded as the true Americans by our government and media. What does that tell you faggot?

>>16737320
are you going to argue that winners of civilizational conflict don't get any lasting claim to land they conqueror and control for centuries?

>>16737421
This retardation is why China destroys tombs with white mummies
They don't want another jewish conquest happening inside their country

>>16737421
non-whites are the winners now, USA is barely 52% white, you dont own it anymore

>>16737421
Go ahead and make the argument that property rights can be reconciled with conflict winners get a lasting claim to land that is conquered.

Getting ready to get all my guns and murder you on your property and then make my claim that I control it now. God US libertarians(which they shouldn't even be called that since its such a bastardization of the actual root of libertarianism) are so stupid.

>>16734767
Based Nick! Voorhees BTFO and not for the first time

>>16737478
Voorhees is a cuck to the dollar
He doesn't give a fuck about anything else
Look at his bitcoin businesses and how they supported the big block forks just the same as support for economic migrants
He's a spineless cuck

>>16737470
I didn't make that argument faggot. You seemed to imply that US (white) claims to land in NA are forfeit based on how the land was acquired. How about you respond to that instead of the non-sequitur rant about retarded libertarians (which btw I agree with).

>>16737575
If you actually follow through the replies you'll see I was replying to someone who said its their being on other peoples land that makes it illegal, which begs the question of what right do they have to those lands.

>>16734783
he is not anti government you double kike, he is anti nanny-state

>>16737642
Right of Conquest.

Try to conquer the USA now faggot if you want to lay a claim on it, good luck.

You can send Nick eth through the Coinbase wallet @NickSzabo4

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>>16734834
Fuck you then. When the state stops confiscating my paycheck so that it can give welfare to illegal aliens -- and they do exactly that despite the law saying they can't -- then I will quit demanding deportation of illegals and the execution of assholes like you.

Same goes for all the illegal aliens who have been raping children, and whom places like NY and CA then release from custody because "muh sanctuary state". FFS, deporting child racists is now a bad thing according to the illegal-alien cocksucking supporters?

Just kill yourself.

>>16739470
>deporting child racists

>>16734767
>inviting in shitskins and protesting donald drumpfs laws is based guise

Corecucks, everybody.

>>16739506
voorhees is a spineless big blocker faggot
https://medium.com/@DCGco/bitcoin-scaling-agreement-at-consensus-2017-133521fe9a77
you see he's a signer of the NYA

absolute scum and not a bitcoin core supporter

>>16736458
imagine thinking satoshi is a brainlet