/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16713598
NO DIVIDEND NO BUY

Are they as a company making a profit? Will they ever make a profit?

>>16713626
All the US auto manufacturers are on gov gibs, thats irrelevant.

Toyota Mirai 2020 Google it

>>16713598
Weird, my friend who is a financial analyst in Manhattan said to short Tesla.

Not trolling, he actually makes like over a quarter million a year before bonuses doing research for them. He thinks Tesla will collapse soon.

Which is fucked because I just bought a model 3 last year. They are amazing cars. Don't own any tesla shares though

>>16713642
he might be right short term and surely there is always something that can happen that a company collapses

but without those factors that apply to any company they are just so far ahead its not even funny and electric cars are just superior in every single aspect

Just look at the literal trash other companies just brought out. they cant even beat the initial model S'
if they arent beat in efficency and performance they surely are in quality of life, user experience, autopilote, charger infrastructure, etc.

Also elon musk can proabably raise any amount of money he needs

>>16713703
I mean I'm with you, I bought a model 3 and it's fucking amazing. Plus the super charger network is fleshed out in cali where I live (SF), so I rarely even charge at home (didn't want to install a washer outlet in my garage).

I don't see how they could fail, but I have a decent amount of friends in finance who are objectively successful, and they're all anti-tesla. They say their numbers are atrocious and they're living on borrowed time, and that when other car manufacture make the switch to electric, Tesla will pretty much die instantly.

>>16713642
>bought a tesla

Tell me how good it works after 10 yrs.

>>16713712
yea the guy is probably alot more experienced than i am lol
but idk i just cant see how they fail and ig its also a nice hill to die on

>>16713721
you live in a basement don't speak to me faggot.

Short Tesla

>>16713640
wow toyotas are all so hideous

https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4314688-12_76-million-new-reasons-to-sell-tesla-shares

Tesla's business model is to release new bullshit to cause short squeezes for profit

Muh electric car
Muh supercharger
Muh everyday electric car
Muh solar power
Muh AI tech
Muh trucks

Every year it's something new. Every year after it's recognized as bullshit and they move to a new false promise

But they are supported by Illuminati or some shit that triggers massive short sales that keep them going alongside gov bennies

>>16713598
Enjoy your 10% gains this year. You should throw everything into Pegnet on this dip.

>>16713712
>tesla is living on borrowed time, it's going to collapse any day soon
>said the increasingly desperate shorter for the n-th time

>>16713906
Looks a hell of a lot better than the current Mirai

>>16713906
Its hydrogen and next year Fuji heavy industries

>>16714357
Has a patent in the works. I cant tell you just short Tesla long jdm

>>16714357
hydrogen is a dead technology due to thermodynamics.

>>16713642
Pretty sure he's correct. Tesla quality control is complete shit, and they're not delivering even a tiny fraction of the vehicles Musk kept on pretending he was gonna churn out.

He designed the company to make huge money off goobermint gibs -- ZEV credits from California and Germany and the U.S. federal government. Then Trump said "no mas!" and Germany said "we have to support our rapefugees!" Now Muskrat is fucked.

I just hope that when it blows, it doesn't destroy SpaceX as collateral damage.

>>16713721
Yeah, that's the other big problem. No aftermarket parts, so once the warranty ends, Tesla rapes the owners on repairs.

>>16713721
>>16714723
https://qz.com/1737145/the-economics-of-driving-seven-teslas-for-2-5-million-miles/
Tesla is literally the only car on the market without planned obsolescence.

>“When we first started our company, we predicted the drive train would practically last forever,” Tesloop founder Haydn Sonnad told Quartz. “That’s proven to be relatively true.” He notes that every car except one, a vehicle taken out of service after a collision with a drunk driver, is still running. “The cars have never died of old age,” he added.

>includes a large share of the highest-mileage Teslas on the road—several are nearing 500,000 miles. Finding conventional vehicles to compare is virtually impossible since most fleet cars are typically sold off after 100,000 miles.

Just a dream! Take over the entire market. They can't even supply their market. They are in debt and have no money to grow up, while they say their valuation is $53 billion; close to Ford and WV. But they have only 97k in sales (when Elon said they would sell 400k. Showing that Elon can't meet his commitments) while Ford had 1.36 million of sales. (Numbers doesn't make sense for them here) By other side they have bad administration, a lot of debts, which forced Elon to speculate over Twitter to try to increase the shares and avoid paying the bills with money, which could take Tesla to bankruptcy. Elon is a dreamer with feet not grounded. Like our friend already said Tesla is going to collapse any time soon, and you are a teenager going all win on TSLA without study the company health. Great people are shorting TSLA too, is just a matter of time to defeat this fight. Some more bad news and they can't control the consequences. Elon know that, and it led him to try to sell Tesla in secret to Google, he is terrified. I will send the bills of the consulting after.

Because Elon is a lying cuck who break SECs rules?