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16687169 No.16687169 [Reply] [Original]

Anyone "investing" in Fantom deserves to lose his money. This is an OBVIOUS scam and Ponzi scheme. Fantom chink team exit scammed long time ago. Scammer Andy replaced them with Russian temp devs so the scammers would still have some kind of "product" and "devolopment" in order to dump on low IQ investors. Fantom promised a 300K dag with smart contracts. Everyone with tech insight knew that was impossible due to the rubbish tech solutions in the white paper.
Here:
>>16669074
>>16669095

So when Fantom scammers delivered their utter garbage product, a fork of Ethereum Virtual Machine with some dag like garbage on top of it, even the most deluded Fantom bagholders would normally have seen something was wrong and start to dump. What the Fantom scammer team did to prolong the scam was to introduce a classic Ponzi scheme with absurd ROI that is unsustainable.
>>16683035
But they don't care about that, as it all is designed to attract short term money so they can dump for a couple of months and then complete the exit scam. There is no working product, the "partnerships" are either paid for, mostly in corrupt third world countries or just fabrications. Bitconnect also faked a partnership with Visa, paid for partnership and positive editorials. Fantom is doing the same thing. Their tech is utter shit and there will be no magical "packaging" of transactions, insane claim, so Fantom suddenly and magickaly can get high TPS. This is the sad reality:
>>16676689

Michael Chen did a similar scam earlier on, as a warning for everyone to see. This Fantom scam is just as obvious as Bitconnect were. Here:
>>16683240

More about why Fantom is a scam here:
>>16673775

>> No.16687231

shills are out here in full force creating threads and talking to each other top kek
it was beautiful watching autist anon destroying this chink scam

surely delaying the mainnet another few months would be better than simply forking ethereum?

>> No.16687255
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>>16687231
They were pressured because of all the scam threads on biz. Also, Fantom must always produce something new all the time, partnerships, new net, new staking etc etc, as much smoke and mirrors as they can, as their tech and business model are utter garbage and their ICO promises insane, pic related.

>> No.16687283

>>16687255
You forgot to shill your shitcoins. Phony schitzoanon

>> No.16687305

>>16687283
I see your comment is void of any logically sound argument. Let me guess, low IQ and invested in Fantom, all in, right?

>> No.16687306

Bullish

>> No.16687317

>>16687305
Of course not, I bought one of your shitcoin shills to hedge with but the real schitzo anon always shills his shitcoins thus you’re a fake

>> No.16687334

>>16687169
The absurd staking ROI is there only to create artificial demand and supply, so the price will go up short term, in order for the Fantom team to start to dump heavily when they find the FTM price high enough, and then exit scam. Price will crash and go to zero in a very short time.

>> No.16687352

>>16687283
>>16687317
You suddenly got a new ID, aren't you supposed to start to rant about Denny Dagins as a true madman?

>> No.16687363

>>16687317
None of you idiots know who I am.

>> No.16687390

>>16687363
>>16687352
I’m mobile posting. You still haven’t shilled your two coins instead oh ftm ie you’re definitely a imposter schitzo anon

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>>16687390
Yeah, happens once every 100 thread normally and ALWAYS in threads with Fantom (pro) and Constellation (rabidly negative). Either you being one person with different IDs, or you pretending to be two different people, but messing up your vpn so you got same ID, pic related.

>> No.16687499

>>16687481
That was the most schitzo post you’ve made in here so maybe you are schitzo anon. Btw dumbass I wasn’t arguing with you I was simply waiting to hear your shitcoin pitch but I see you’ve grown another Layer of paranoia. My Id changes all the time on mobile depending on length of time between posts

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16687528

jesus christ this board deserves to be dead. Oh well, it got me antshare, then link, and now fantom. Seems like a good time to stop coming here now that I have my last gem
>pic related

>> No.16687550

>>16687169
stop posting this it only makes me more bullish.

buy FRM if you're so scared.

>> No.16687562

>>16687528
>got me antshare, then link
Either lying or pure luck
>got me antshare, then link
Give me your three best reasons for buying Fantom

>> No.16687568

>>16687550
>stop posting this it only makes me more bullish.
I got the exact same stupid phrase when I warned about Bitconnect. What does that tell you?

>> No.16687597

>>16687562
I'm not going to waste my time because you fucking retards take the points we make, flop around pretending you made any points and ignoring all the facts that are stated, then proceed to call us street shitting indians and pretend like you've accomplished anything.
>hurr durr see you didn't make a point so you clearly don't have one
you got me.

>> No.16687610

>>16687597
You Fantom boiz scammers have not made a single factual and/or logical claim in the entire thread. It's all ad hominem or just rambling.

>> No.16688246

>>16687597
So you want to counter my claim that Fantom is a scam, but you can't give me a single factual, non-scam, reason to buy Fantom?

>> No.16688414

>>16687169
You are a scammer

>> No.16688574

>>16687169
You are trying way to hard at this point.

>> No.16688603

>>16687334
Shut the fuck up you utter faggot, the normies aren’t supposed to know about that yet

>> No.16688618

>>16688246
If it’s a scam then why are they partnered with the University of Sydney in Australia and also Universities in South Korea? Are they scams too?

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>>16688618
top fucking kek
>2017+3
>P A R T N E R S H I P S

>> No.16688957
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16688957

>>16688618
Pathetic Fantom scammers are presenting them giving money to a program as "partnership" with universities. Equally scammy is their partnership with Oracle. The "Oracle partnership" is not with Fantom Foundation, but the Korean legal entity they organized in a futile attempt to avoid class action lawsuit from pre-sale and ICO whales. The very fact that you suddenly have multiple legal entities should tell you "investors" everything that this is a shell game scam. The Korean Fantom entity is a SALES representative of Oracle, pic, and no partnership with Oracle. It's a joke. It's a total scam.

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16688985

> meanwhile Kleros is at Havard Law

anon...partnerships don't mean anything these days

>> No.16689116

>>16687528
LoL got in on 3 moon missions, only can afford $ 2k
did you start with a nickel?

>> No.16689175

I'd love to see the portfolio of yours if FTM is a scam

>> No.16689406

>>16687169
based schizo fudder

>> No.16689565

>>16688246
No I can't because of the reasons I mentioned. You don't listen.

>> No.16689572

mmmm delicious FUD...

>> No.16689576

>>16689116
right because I def would send 100% of my net worth into something to test the technology right? I wouldn't instead buy a small amount and see how it works? I have over 1M ftm, but I'm not dumb enough to lose it all on a single misclick. also I only put about 10 dollars into antshare, and about 5k into link at 0.40

>> No.16689939 [DELETED] 

That's not true

>> No.16690134

Ehhh... see mostly negative fantom threads here. I like the technology and I think the coin dynamics make an easy moon. Plus with main net they are about to launch on binance. Not a bad coin to be in. The use and partnerships are just icing on the cake.

>> No.16690242

>>16690134
>I like the technology
Fantom has some of the worst tech in crypto, plus they lie through their teeth about virtually everything, here
>>16689633

>> No.16690619
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16690619

>scam

imagine still holding this scam...

One of the most obvious scams in crypto. Chink team exit scammed long time ago. All you have left is a giant marketing department and some Russian temp devs. 300K TPS lie was their hook, line and sinker. ICO whales are preparing class action lawsuit. The whole scam is imploding.

>1. FTM now promises 500 TPS and not the 300K. I believe that is a lie as well. My guess 300 TPS MAX and they have already stated no smart contracts (later, sometime, somewhere). Their testing on Opera gave tps as low as 18 TPS, horrendous.
>2. FTM openly lies about VISA, claiming they have only 2K, while reality is 65+K TPS.
https://usa.visa.com/dam/VCOM/download/corporate/media/visanet-technology/aboutvisafactsheet.pdf

There is NO way FTM can be a global provider with only 500/18 TPS. VISA has 65 000 TPS and they are not targeting micro payments, nor are they global. They are only calibrated for persons with bank accounts, i.e. minority of the world population. FTM can't handle any of that, not even a fraction, and they claim to be the future global crypto with smart contracts, micro payments, fintech, etc.

How is this not an exit scam? Please explain:
https://twitter.com/adrienv1520/status/1201953110501023744

I would sell Fantom if I were you. My guess is that this will just get more and more ugly and result in a crash. DAG and MTV are great buys. ETH is by far the best if you are risk averse, they have the best and largest dev community in the world and big business are banging on their door to team up with them. Compare Enterprise Ethereum Alliance with Fantom's dodgy third world banks alliences and failed state Afghanistan. It would be laughable if it were not so tragic. Here:
Enterprise Ethereum Alliance
https://entethalliance.org/members/

>> No.16690792

>>16687231
It's fantom's consensus using eth's VM which hard caps tps. Do you cockroaches get off on trying to spread misinformation?

>> No.16690827

>>16690792
This, The entire thread is pure fud. The fact they are trying this hard shows how filthy rich we're going to be.

>> No.16690934

>>16690827

Danny deggins has a great trauma with Chen. In a thread he said that he was going to do all kinds of FUD against the projects that the sponsor, because Chen was in Howdoo and schizophrenic lost a lot of money by buying high and selling low.

>> No.16690992

If you repost it one more time, I will buy Fantom All in. KEK

>> No.16691414

>>16690792
>Do you cockroaches get off on trying to spread misinformation?
What misinformation? Don't forget documentation.

>> No.16691422

>>16690827
>The fact they are trying this hard shows how filthy rich we're going to be.
Does that statement make any logical sense to you?

>> No.16691428

>>16690934
If you are talking about me, then you don't have a single truthful statement or claim in your whole ramble.

>> No.16691437

>>16690992
Do it, buy Fantom, buy Bitconnect BCC, what do I care? If you want to lose all your money, do it.

>> No.16691469

>>16690242
If I lied and created the same thread about bitcoin or link, doesn't make whatever coin thead created a scam. That proves nothing. Fantom has active development and github. Read what they are doing, it's impressive.

>> No.16691531

>>16691469
Where did I lie? Point it out and provide documentation. Go on.

Fantom promised the world's most advanced dag with 300 000 tps and smart contracts. Similar statements are still found on your CMC page, telegram groups etc. Reality is one uglyl and clunky fork of Ethereum's Virtual Machine with 18 tps, see >>16676689

You find that impressive? On top of that you have insane pathological lies from scammer Andy and his group, plus Fantom community, like here:
>>16689633

This is even more scammy than Bitconnect, congratulations:
>>16683035

>> No.16691536

Anyone "investing" in Fantom deserves to lose his money. This is an OBVIOUS scam and Ponzi scheme. Fantom chink team exit scammed long time ago. Scammer Andy replaced them with Russian temp devs so the scammers would still have some kind of "product" and "devolopment" in order to dump on low IQ investors. Fantom promised a 300K dag with smart contracts. Everyone with tech insight knew that was impossible due to the rubbish tech solutions in the white paper.

>> No.16691551

>>16691531
The fud makes no sense at this point in the game.
It has FAILED.

>> No.16691561

>>16691551
Facts can never "fail", they are part of reality.

>> No.16691591

>>16691561
>>16691536

Just your facts are continually refuted, since they are desperate attempts by FUD, as the last one where he published a prototype photo of the Lachesis code and you said it was the final result of the project.

I repeat it again, Danny: HAS FAILED.

>> No.16691625

>>16691591
>Just your facts are continually refuted,
Never happened. Liar.
> as the last one where he published a prototype photo of the Lachesis code and you said it was the final result of the project.
More lies. No idea what you talking about?
>Danny
Of course you will lie about my identity as well. That's ALL you Fantom idiots have, - lies.

>> No.16691644

>>16691625

I wish you lost your wallet with all the Fantoms, but unfortunately it is unlikely to happen.
Anyway. You're nasty, Denny

>> No.16691654

>>16691644
Get lost with your lies, stupid trash.

>> No.16691672

>>16691654
See you later, Denny daggins.

>> No.16691747

>>16691672
>Denny daggins.
Only blame yourself for Denny Daggins doxing you as the gay pakistani pedo you are. Sorry that you panic sold all your DAGs and will now lose the rest of your money on the absurdly obvious FTM scam. Low IQ morons like you should stay the hell away from any kind of financial investments, you are too stupid and not even honest with yourself.

>> No.16691992

>>16691747
Bruh DAG is the most obvious scam on this board with 4 employees, no dev team, no funds, satsgang running their TG, and has been waterfall dumping for weeks. How you continuously bring it up to defend your baseless fud is beyond delusional. And drop the Pakistani pedo rambling everyone on this board is convinced you're a schizophrenic retard.

>> No.16692056

>>16691992
Sorry that it angers you so much, pedo pakistani. Everything you said about DAG is false and I challenge you to document your claims. Do it with facts and not your emotional feelings etc. If you just manage to take your huge dildo out your brown pakistani ass, that should be no problem for you, unless you of course a pathological liar, as is so typical for team Fantom. Scammers.

>> No.16692078

>>16691992
>everyone on this board
You have to be a truly weak loser to call on "popular opinion" and that you somehow represent that. Are you a teenage girl or just the usual feminine pakistiani pedo homo? You can take your highs school drama and what you claim all people think and stuff it. No wonder you have such heavy bags of Fantom with that low IQ. Double digits, right?

>> No.16692116

>>16692078
Yes I'm a pakistani pedo, Go take your meds

>> No.16692129

>>16692116
I recommend castration.

>> No.16692188

>>16692129
Let's talk again in a week when DAG dumps another 50 sats kek

>> No.16692250

>>16687169
I agree and I even one FTM.
But is there any project which even attempt to create VISA-level TPS?

>> No.16692277

>>16692250
Vitalik has correctly stated that a well functioning global blockchain needs at least one million tps. ETH will provide that. Projects like MTV are working on the same thing, and they are smaller but faster, and they do not have to move old tech over to new tech as ETH has to. There are some other projects working with sharding etc, but with significant lower probability of pulling it off.

>> No.16692283

>>16692277
>ETH will provide that
Correction: ETH 2.0 will provide that.

>> No.16692334

>>16691672
>>16690992
>>16690827
>>16689572

standard fantom shill posts. I hadn't read shit about fantom but once i saw the insane ROI shill from staking I knew it was a scam for sure.

>> No.16692358 [DELETED] 

>>16690619
>ftm is bad it’s a scam buy mtv

You’re promoting a coin that has almost zero chance of working but you hate fantom? Even if fantom is a scam it’s going to pump hard. Mtv is almost guaranteed to go to zero because but you’re shilling it. So you actually don’t give a shit about helping anons you just have a vendetta

>> No.16692415

>>16692358
>You’re promoting a coin that has almost zero chance of working
>Mtv is almost guaranteed to go to zero
Why would you say something that stupid? Walk us through your reasoning.
>but you hate fantom
Fantom is a scam project, from day one. That's why their main selling points, dag, 300K tps, smartcontracts, were ALL lies and the chink team exit scammed long time ago
>Even if fantom is a scam it’s going to pump hard
I highly doubt that. What I am certain about is that a lot of people will lose a lot of money
>So you actually don’t give a shit about helping anons you just have a vendetta
Psychological projection. You are talking about yourself, scammer.

>> No.16692420

still more accomplished than OMG

>> No.16692656

>>16692415
I’m just using common sense. I don’t marry coins. Fantom is set to pump regardless what you think of the fundamentals. Mtv is trying to beat eth which is very unlikely to happen and if it fails to do so it goes to zero. You’re telling people to pick the even less safe bet. At least say DAG

>> No.16692858
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>>16692656
>I’m just using common sense
I asked you to walk us through your retarded reasoning
>I don’t marry coins.
If course you do. Investing an coin you know has utterly failed to deliver and has shit tech, some of the worst in crypto, what do you call that?
>Fantom is set to pump regardless what you think of the fundamentals
No, the team will dump you into oblivion.
>Mtv is trying to beat eth which is very unlikely to happen
Like you have any clue. ETH has a much larger dev community, best in crypto, but MTV can start from scratch and don't have to transit old ETH tech over to new ETH 2.0 tech and they have a great management and tech team.
>and if it fails to do so it goes to zero
No. You are talking about FTM again
>At least say DAG
Constellation (DAG) is great and will undoubtedly go to top 10-20 CMC within one year. Only and best crypto to handle big data. We responded to a request regarding TPS and even though DAG has horizontal scaling, I don't believe they will match the numbers you will get with sharding. But they don't have to, and who knows, if they hire some more devs or have a ground-break, they might do it. But lower probability compared to ETH 2.0 and MTV

>> No.16694182

>>16692858
Lets hear your track record schitzo don’t tell us about bitconnect tell us what moons you were right about

>> No.16694272

>>16694182
I told you Fantom scammers so many times, I have enough money to do whatever I want with my time. I care about crypto space. So what do you think, "investor"?

>> No.16694334

>>16694272
>no track record provided

Shut up then fag

>> No.16694369

>>16694334
>no track record provided
>Shut up then fag
Are you the same FTM homo with vpn, or are you just some low IQ FTM trash jumping into a conversation?

>> No.16694448

>>16694182
>>16694334
Okay, I can take something that is recent, last few months and that you can check. I made threads about DAG this summer. That was an easy 10x in a bear market. When I give recommendations, I don't scam people, like you do.

>> No.16694504

>>16694448
>33 posts is schizo
staking is golden you retards or is it too complicated for you?

>> No.16694512

>>16694448
Denny Daggins is a pajeet scumbag working for Satsgang. He pumps and dumps all Satsgang projects and is part of their online spam group.
He has admitted to this on multiple occasions. He does the same thing for Satsgang in all their scam threads.

He blames all FUD on one-two people. He uses this Raphael sandnigger because as an indian (a very dirty stinky indian) so he hates pakis.
This piece of shit scammed the DAG community and help Satsgang manipulate their token to the point nobody can sell. All the volume is fake and buy/sell walls are fully owned by Satsgang.
He is trash, he is personal friends of the piece of shit scumbag DAG CEO. He is paid to be here, he does not give a fuck about facts or logic, he has only one job. Troll the fuck out of anyone exposing the Satsgang scam. He defends them to the death and will do anything to switch the subject. He is by all means the worst poster on biz and a complete lunatic.
If Karma is a real thing, Denny Da Rocket will be eaten alive by rats while getting fucked up his ass with a baseball bat made of glass shards while watching Pakistan win the world cup of cricket or whatever stupid fucking game they play in dirtbagistan.

>> No.16694566

>>16694504
>staking is golden you retards or is it too complicated for you?
So staking BCC would just be fantastic for a financial imbecile like you, right?

>> No.16694587

>>16694512
Yeah, you are complete mental. Not a single truthful sentence. Why do you hate this Denny Daggins so much, unless you are the gay pedo-paki that he doxxed? You know, the idiot that panic sold DAGs and lost all his money because of his nasty personality and low IQ. That guy.

>> No.16694952

>>16694369
Yea but I’ll told you it’s not vpn retard it’s just mobile posting

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16695052

>>16694952
>>16694512
Sure, and it happens ALWAYS when the pedo-paki Raphael is involved in the thread and ALWAYS in Fantom (where you are pro) and Constellation (that you hate after you panic sold), NOWHERE else do I have any problems with morons changing their ID all the time. Seek professional help Raphael. You are clinically insane. Pic related.

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>>16694512
>>16694952
Pedo-Paki and gay sexual predator Raphael Muhammad. Tragic.

>> No.16695140

>>16695052
I’m on the highway can barely see in front of my car covered in fog but I took the time just because ur schitzo. I’ve never owned constellation I took a break from crypto whenever that happened. First coin I saw coming back was fantom tho I’ve hedged with mtv because of your deranged ramblings. Even tho mtv is clearly a degenerate gamble more than ftm is

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>>16695140
Forgot my pic. Idk who that is but I do remember satsgang being faggots along with twu.

>> No.16695175
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16695175

2020 will be the year of $DAPP

@LiquidAppsIO
and $EOS MARK MY WORDS
oracles
vAccounts
scheduled tasks
vRAM
computation (e.g. AI)
interoperability (inc. multisigBTC etc.)
SQL
web auth
site &file storage

Fantom is DEAD

>> No.16695196

>>16695140
>>16695146
MTV are working on frontier tech, FTM's tech is utter garbage

You will get similar (you)s when using vpn.

>> No.16695268

>>16695130
Hours later and he's still seething at his desk calling every new id the paki homo living in his head kek there is no existence more pathetic

>> No.16695280

>>16695196
This is crypto, tech isn’t king and ftm isn’t trying to dethrone eth

This time I had to switch to WiFi kek

>> No.16695379

The amount of times it’s funded shows will Fantom is going to make everyone in it Astronomically rich!